The Briefing Room
General Category => Editorial/Opinion/Blogs => Topic started by: mystery-ak on January 02, 2017, 02:51:17 pm
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Justin Raimondo
The country is in the throes of a major epidemic, with no known cure and some pretty scary symptoms. It's called Trump Derangement Syndrome, or TDS, and it’s rapidly spreading from the point of origin – the political class – to the population at large.
In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.
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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-raimondo-trump-derangement-syndrome-20161226-story.html
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Trump supporters are the deranged ones
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"Do you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome?"
We all do to the extent that we must suffer the TDSers.
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Ah, yes. The old "Derangement Syndrome." Usually diagnosed by partisans who simply can't
fathom their heroes/preferred officeholders have critics at all, never mind reasonable ones;
a diagnosis usually intended to stifle discourse. See: Obama Derangement Syndrome, Bush
Derangement Syndrome, Clinton Derangement Syndrome.
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A picture is worth a thousand words; see any fellow #nevertrump-briefers here?
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-585dbf95/turbine/la-nismedley-1482538943-snap-photo/650/650x366)
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TDS is an example of how the Democrat machine (including the MSM) is able to completely bamboozle their base with propaganda. These people really think that Trump is some sort of Hitler-esque figure. Those who are familiar with my post history know that I am not a big fan of Trump, but he's not an evil man.
He's a coarse, vulgarian, constitutional pygmy, but no, he isn't evil. (Yet.)
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A picture is worth a thousand words; see any fellow #nevertrump-briefers here?
We all know you are one great stampede of giant lips directed at Trumps derriere...please stop trying to prove it with every post.
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TDS is an example of how the Democrat machine (including the MSM) is able to completely bamboozle their base with propaganda. These people really think that Trump is some sort of Hitler-esque figure. Those who are familiar with my post history know that I am not a big fan of Trump, but he's not an evil man.
There are a fair number here that are "bamboozled," as well. They seem to answer every liberal media uttering, and see "Trump militants," and "Russian trolls," everywhere.
I went to a Trump rally in Costa Mesa CA. Prior to this event, the media had depicted Trump supporters as being solely old white guys.
In fact what I saw at the rally proved to me the media was lying. Too bad there isn't sharper scrutiny by Trump's detractors, so they don't fall for every tidbit of crap.
The only violent people at that rally were young, Marxist inspired student age people. La Raza types. throwing bricks on cars passing on a freeway, that weren't even connected to the rally.
But hey, don't let me bother TDS sufferers with facts.
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The country is in the throes of a major epidemic, with no known cure and some pretty scary symptoms. It's called Trump Derangement Syndrome, or TDS, and it’s rapidly spreading from the point of origin – the political class – to the population at large.
In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.
The hypocrisy is so rich in just this quote.
As if the Trump Militants did not do the same when Obama's every word, EO and action provoked much deserved derision.
Lame attempt to silence any criticism of THEIR messiah - same as the Obama drones attempted to pin that on anyone who criticized their much vaunted Frank Marshall Davis Offspring savior.
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Ah, yes. The old "Derangement Syndrome." Usually diagnosed by partisans who simply can't
fathom their heroes/preferred officeholders have critics at all, never mind reasonable ones;
a diagnosis usually intended to stifle discourse.
Trump Snowflake Syndrome - The slightest criticism\disgreement\perceived sleight of the Orange One MUST be pounced upon, calls for boycotts, rants, name-calling, doxxing and destroying the critic by all means necessary and ridiculous must be employed.
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Trump Snowflake Syndrome - The slightest criticism\disgreement\perceived sleight of the Orange One MUST be pounced upon, calls for boycotts, rants, name-calling, doxxing and destroying the critic by all means necessary and ridiculous must be employed.
The other side of the social justice warrior coin.
Black lives matter - Now in Caucasian!
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The other side of the social justice warrior coin.
Black lives matter - Now in Caucasian!
Get it right: Trump's Life Matters!
Because he is going to do all these amazing, incredible and miraculous things for those in America who support him, and punish the rest of those who don't!
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The hypocrisy is so rich in just this quote.
As if the Trump Militants did not do the same when Obama's every word, EO and action provoked much deserved derision.
Lame attempt to silence any criticism of THEIR messiah - same as the Obama drones attempted to pin that on anyone who criticized their much vaunted Frank Marshall Davis Offspring savior.
We've been through Obama Derangement Syndrome . . . Bush Derangement Syndrome . . . Clinton Derangement Syndrome . . .
now we're going to be through Trump Derangement Syndrome . . . all of which remind us that something once said of liberals isn't
true of them alone: they do a lot of talking about hearing other points of view but it shocks them to realise there are other
points of view.
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A picture is worth a thousand words; see any fellow #nevertrump-briefers here?
What a hideous implication, @truth_seeker .
Even for you as ugly as your posts have become, this is a disgusting personal smear against people whose only offense is that they disagree with you.
You have clearly given up your quest for truth.
What a shame. **nononono*
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He's a coarse, vulgarian, constitutional pygmy, but no, he isn't evil. (Yet.)
I'm not sure of that. I believe his bragging about sexual assault is nothing short of evil.
If believing in the dignity of women makes others call me "deranged" so be it.
But Donald Trump hasn't earned ANY respect from me in any area of his life. And if maintaining the same values I've always held makes others mock me, that's the way it's going to be.
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I'm not sure of that. I believe his bragging about sexual assault is nothing short of evil.
I sometimes suspect he was as much into the shock value as anything else---I mean, he changed his tune
how often during the campaign and since the election? If he really did commit such acts and
brag about them, I'm not sure "evil" would quite cover what it was and he is.
If believing in the dignity of women makes others call me "deranged" so be it.
That kind of derangement I think we can live with. :)
But Donald Trump hasn't earned ANY respect from me in any area of his life. And if maintaining the same values I've always held makes others mock me, that's the way it's going to be.
Donaldus Minimus wasn't exactly one of my normal subjects for thought until last year's disgrace of a campaign.
I can't remember when the two major parties produced presidential candidates that lacking in qualification,
scruple, or essential human decency. I say again, it was as though we were asked to choose between Caligula
and Queen Athaliah---and accept that otherwise decent men and women were actually proud of it.
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I'm not sure of that. I believe his bragging about sexual assault is nothing short of evil.
If believing in the dignity of women makes others call me "deranged" so be it.
But Donald Trump hasn't earned ANY respect from me in any area of his life. And if maintaining the same values I've always held makes others mock me, that's the way it's going to be.
Yup. No point in wasting the respect on a man who is the same lowlife he's been for the past 40 years. It is kind of fun watching the people giving him a chance to act presidential keep moving the goalposts away.
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Its interesting how Trump has redefined the term. At one time it referred to a politicians opponents. Now it refers to his supporters... :shrug:
I stumbled across this gem today... "Trump looks to join the great ones, Lincoln, Washington, Reagan and JFK"
I rest my case.
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Its interesting how Trump has redefined the term. At one time it referred to a politicians opponents. Now it refers to his supporters... :shrug:
I stumbled across this gem today... "Trump looks to join the great ones, Lincoln, Washington, Reagan and JFK"
I rest my case.
A few weeks back, Newt proudly declared Trump to be a mix of Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and PT Barnum. The founder of the progressive party, a progressive democrat and a carnival barker.
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A picture is worth a thousand words; see any fellow #nevertrump-briefers here?
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-585dbf95/turbine/la-nismedley-1482538943-snap-photo/650/650x366)
And you are doing what with this post, proving that derangement runs on both sides?
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X Derangement system (where x= bush/obama/trump) was moderately clever when I first heard it like 15 years ago. I think Krauthammer came up with the term.
It's staggeringly unoriginal now.
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X Derangement system (where x= bush/obama/trump) was moderately clever when I first heard it like 15 years ago. I think Krauthammer came up with the term.
It's staggeringly unoriginal now.
Just wait for the bumper stickers: I don't suffer Trump Derangement Syndrome, I enjoy every minute of it. ;)
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He's a coarse, vulgarian, constitutional pygmy, but no, he isn't evil. (Yet.)
"He's a coarse, vulgarian, constitutional pygmy"
I like that......so much that I'm going to steal it.
One huge problem with Trump is that like many wealthy people who started on third base he thinks he's a genius. He's not the first wealthy person to think that, but the problem is he suckered many normally conservative people into thinking he is a genius.
That has been my biggest surprise this election....a very large pct. of Republicans can fall for a conman who is more liberal than conservative.
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That has been my biggest surprise this election....a very large pct. of Republicans can fall for a conman who is more liberal than conservative.
That doesn't matter anymore. Not with the vast majority of the population in this country.
Principles no longer matter unless you are in the Grievance Industry and demand payback and retribution.
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That doesn't matter anymore. Not with the vast majority of the population in this country.
Principles no longer matter unless you are in the Grievance Industry and demand payback and retribution.
You are right about that.
The left has been working diligently for the past 60 years (more, actually, but very specifically more recently) to erode every value Americans had.
They succeeded almost immediately in suckering elitest liberals, then mainstream liberals and Democrats, and then clearly began succeeding in their efforts with Republicans and even some conservatives.
There is only a remnant left who care about what matters; who think that character, ethics and the Constitution are required for the success of this nation.
The last three elections have proven that the left has triumphed over the majority of Americans in weakening our resolve to do what is right. The "If it feels good, do it" philosophy of the left now runs the country, and Americans have been reduced to caring only about the things that are good for them, not good overall.
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The last three elections have proven that the left has triumphed over the majority of Americans in weakening our resolve to do what is right. The "If it feels good, do it" philosophy of the left now runs the country, and Americans have been reduced to caring only about the things that are good for them, not good overall.
Because what is "right" and "Good" has been completely redefined to celebrate what was profane, evil and mediocre, so that by today we call what was good and right to be evil.
Which is how we got Obama and why we will have Trump.
Look how many people either ignore or think Trump's bragging about bedding other men's wives is a good thing.
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I'm not sure of that. I believe his bragging about sexual assault is nothing short of evil.
If believing in the dignity of women makes others call me "deranged" so be it.
But Donald Trump hasn't earned ANY respect from me in any area of his life. And if maintaining the same values I've always held makes others mock me, that's the way it's going to be.
Typical locker room talk among men. Most of it bragodocious.
@musiclady
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Why yes, I do suffer from ethincs.
Thank you for asking.
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Typical locker room talk among men. Most of it bragodocious.
And totally unChristian, unmanly, juvenile and perverse.
It's amazing to watch so many self-identifying Conservatives make excuses and justify evil so as to assuage the lack of character in their anointed.
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And totally unChristian, unmanly, juvenile and perverse.
It's amazing to watch so many self-identifying Conservatives make excuses and justify evil so as to assuage the lack of character in their anointed.
I might have heard similar talk as a teenager in the locker room when no adults were around but its been many years.
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Because what is "right" and "Good" has been completely redefined to celebrate what was profane, evil and mediocre, so that by today we call what was good and right to be evil.
Which is how we got Obama and why we will have Trump.
Look how many people either ignore or think Trump's bragging about bedding other men's wives is a good thing.
I have a suspicion that Trump's perversity validates their own. They're happy to have a "President" who is so bad, including serial adultery, and being a sexual predator, that their own perversion seems OK in comparison.
But you're right. You can see it in popular culture. The people who abide by societal morals are mocked. The people who practice deviancy are celebrated.
Ergo, their populist, deviant 'hero.'
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I might have heard similar talk as a teenager in the locker room when no adults were around but its been many years.
According to the three males in my immediate family who have participated in multiple sports over many years, dating from the 1960's into the 21st century, they have never, ever once heard "locker room talk" about predatory sexual assault.
The excuse of "boys will be boys"...... in addition to being a bad thing to start with, is entirely false, and an excuse to support an amoral man.
58 year old boys do not brag about sexual assault.
Unless they are degenerate and abnormal.
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I have a suspicion that Trump's perversity validates their own. They're happy to have a "President" who is so bad, including serial adultery, and being a sexual predator, that their own perversion seems OK in comparison.
But you're right. You can see it in popular culture. The people who abide by societal morals are mocked. The people who practice deviancy are celebrated.
Ergo, their populist, deviant 'hero.'
Its why I called him the candidate of cultural degeneracy and now he can be king of the degenerates.
They knew he was dishonest and immoral when they voted for him, they just didn't care. They will.
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Its why I called him the candidate of cultural degeneracy and now he can be king of the degenerates.
They knew he was dishonest and immoral when they voted for him, they just didn't care. They will.
I'm not sure they'll ever admit it, though.
At least not most of them.
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According to the three males in my immediate family who have participated in multiple sports over many years, dating from the 1960's into the 21st century, they have never, ever once heard "locker room talk" about predatory sexual assault.
The excuse of "boys will be boys"...... in addition to being a bad thing to start with, is entirely false, and an excuse to support an amoral man.
58 year old boys do not brag about sexual assault.
Unless they are degenerate and abnormal.
@musiclady I've read lots more like below, locker room talk and more happens. And yes boys will be boys
"Harvard men's soccer season canceled for lewd 'scouting report' ... The Harvard men's soccer team will be suspended for the rest of its season after an investigation found the team continually made vulgar and sexual comments about members of the women's soccer team."
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I've read lots more like below, locker room talk and more happens. And yes boys will be boys
"Harvard men's soccer season canceled for lewd 'scouting report' ... The Harvard men's soccer team will be suspended for the rest of its season after an investigation found the team continually made vulgar and sexual comments about members of the women's soccer team."
If everybody jumped off a bridge... well, you know the rest.
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If everybody jumped off a bridge... well, you know the rest.
Neither "vulgar" nor "sexual" are the same thing as ADMITTING sexual assault on multiple women.
This is NOT a matter of "boys will be boys." It is a matter of having elected a sexual predator.
I am thankful that I can tell my daughters and granddaughters that I never voted for a man who thinks of them as a piece of meat.
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And yes boys will be boys
Some people are naieve @jpsb Don't try conversing with them. You have older men on FR saying "I'd hit it", "Not Guilty" etc and you know they are thinking way worse than that and would type way worse comments if allowed.
This crap, "men don't talk that way" in the locker room or among themselves is total bs. Men talk sexually about women at all ages among their friends. My 93 year old uncle is in assisted living. I visit him and you ought to hear what they old geezers say about the young hot female aids or nurses as they walk by
Women too. The faux outrage over how men talk about women in private is is laughable.
I have been to enough conferences or horse shows with my wife to see how women talk sexually about men that is 100 times worse than what men say.
All this boils down to is an attack an attack on men by sjws and feminist and the conservative women are following right in line.
@jpsb
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All this boils down to is an attack an attack on men by sjws and feminists and some conservative women are falling right in line.
@jpsb
@mirraflake
Agreed.
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This argument again? Locker room talk is what it is, but bragging about sexual assault is another thing altogether.
Good Lord, right after the tape came out, pro athletes said that was like no locker room talk they'd ever heard.
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Much as the poor deluded fools kept adoring bubba, there will be many who will never ever admit that living in the sewer with DT was a poor bargain.
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Much as the poor deluded fools kept adoring bubba, there will be many who will never ever admit that living in the sewer with DT was a poor bargain.
Yeah, well, every time I see this false argument that Trump bragging about crotch-grabbing is just guy talk, I'm going to call it out.
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This crap, "men don't talk that way" in the locker room or among themselves is total bs. Men talk sexually about women at all ages among their friends. My 93 year old uncle is in assisted living. I visit him and you ought to hear what they old geezers say about the young hot female aids or nurses as they walk by
Women too. The faux outrage over how men talk about women in private is is laughable.
I have been to enough conferences or horse shows with my wife to see how women talk sexually about men that is 100 times worse than what men say.
All this boils down to is an attack an attack on men by sjws and feminist and the conservative women are following right in line.
No, REAL MEN do not talk that way about women. Little perverted man-children who are nothing but fantasy-maturbators talk like that about women.
Obviously in your world, chivalry is as dead as righteousness.
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Yeah, well, every time I see this false argument that Trump bragging about crotch-grabbing is just guy talk, I'm going to call it out.
I've got 4 sisters and had both a mother and step mother and grew up with a full set of grandmothers and great grandmothers. I'd have been one seriously sorry fool if I had talked about women that way.
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No, REAL MEN do not talk that way about women. Little perverted man-children who are nothing but fantasy-maturbators talk like that about women.
Obviously in your world, chivalry is as dead as righteousness.
My husband's a natural body builder and therefore belongs to several gyms. A few guys do talk like this in the locker room; however, they are the men in and out of very dysfunctional relationships. No family guys are friends with them, and even the single guys in regular relationships avoid them.
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No, REAL MEN do not talk that way about women. Little perverted man-children who are nothing but fantasy-maturbators talk like that about women.
Obviously in your world, chivalry is as dead as righteousness.
AMEN!
He desperately needs all men to be perverted to justify his own perversion, and can't tolerate the FACT that there are real men out there who respect women and don't think of women as cheap cuts of meat.
It is extremely disturbing that anyone on this forum continues to argue that treating women like filth is not only 'normal,' but something to be proud of.
Is it Trump who has emboldened this dirty child and his sty mates? Was he just hiding his perversion until he felt justified in it by a President who never matured beyond the age of 13?
I have him on ignore, but the filth of his thoughts and words still disturbs this forum.
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I've got 4 sisters and had both a mother and step mother and grew up with a full set of grandmothers and great grandmothers. I'd have been one seriously sorry fool if I had talked about women that way.
EVERYONE, even those without mothers and grandmothers whom they respect, is a sorry fool when they talk about women in such a disgusting manner.
The problem with this particular fool is that he feels the need to brag about his idiocy.
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Is it Trump who has emboldened this dirty child and his sty mates?
No. Trump is merely the reflection of that large portion of society that likes to flaunt their wickedness, perversions and conquests as a 'normal' thing.
Trump just adds a neo-gravitas aspect to their once-disdained behaviors and fantasies as something now acceptable and "in".
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No. Trump is merely the reflection of that large portion of society that likes to flaunt their wickedness, perversions and conquests as a 'normal' thing.
Trump just adds a neo-gravitas aspect to their once-disdained behaviors and fantasies as something now acceptable and "in".
I suspect you're right.
And I also suspect that this child, in the physical presence of real men, wouldn't be bragging quite so boldly about his perversion, and talking about women with such disdain and lack of respect.
I suspect that the anonymity of the internet disguises what would be cowardice and weakness in his real life.
Because real men have no need to disgrace and demean women like he does.
This fellow has a deep need to disgrace women. He brings it up all the time.
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Yes, I do suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
While I've never been much of a Trump fan it's pretty safe to say I've never been a big fan of any presidential candidate. They're just human beings that come complete with all the weaknesses we all suffer from. Just some suffer more than others.
When W first ran for president he was hardly my first choice but I voted for him anyway. I thought he did okay as our governor, but just okay. Nothing to write home about. Yet as the Left continued to go absolutely batshit crazy during the campaign I moved more and more into W's corner. At least he had a few morals, Al Gore had none.
Same thing this time around. As the Left continued to go absolutely batshit crazy during the campaign I moved more and more into Trump's corner. At least he has a few morals, Hillary Clinton has none. I'm also not a big fan of being poked with a stick, which seems to be the Left's specialty.
Now the election is over and the Left is willing to set the whole world on fire. Just keep it up and in a few more weeks I'll be the biggest Trump supporter around. The more you poke me with a stick the more probable it is I'll come out swinging.
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DT has given a false legitimacy to those of the lowest character.
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But Donald Trump hasn't earned ANY respect from me in any area of his life.
The respect he has earned with me derives solely from my respect for the office he has won. He is the next President, and I say give him a fair shot to see if he can do some good. I don't take back a word I said about him before the election. But if he proves me wrong, then solid.
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The respect he has earned with me derives solely from my respect for the office he has won. He is the next President, and I say give him a fair shot to see if he can do some good. I don't take back a word I said about him before the election. But if he proves me wrong, then solid.
I also respect the office, so I will give the same regard to Donald Trump as I have to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. In my view, he is in the same category in most respects.
If he does some "good" I will not say it is bad, but I believe it will be by accident in trying to do what is good for himself.
That is because he is the same person about whom we both spoke honestly before the election.
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I can make observations, they say Trump isn't conservative but support open borders politicians like Dubya Bush or they supported Cruz who clearly revamped his immigration policy to look more like Trump's and campaigned with Cruz, yet, the Cruz supporters say the nastiest things, reflecting the way the Cruz campaign was, one that Marco Rubio called the dirtiest ever. Levin-bots and Beck-bots parrot about being the true constitutional conservative; but all a lot of talk since they can't lean back on a record like say, Governor Perry and Governor Walker have. They complain about Putin, yet wouldn't vote for Romney in some cases. Total inconsistencies.
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I also respect the office, so I will give the same regard to Donald Trump as I have to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. In my view, he is in the same category in most respects.
If he does some "good" I will not say it is bad, but I believe it will be by accident in trying to do what is good for himself.
That is because he is the same person about whom we both spoke honestly before the election.
He is indeed the same person - the same political chameleon, the same bombastic salesman, the same temperamental and impulse-driven manchild.
I hope he can do some good for the nation. I will give him a fair shot to do so, and recognize that he cannot be fairly judged on the basis of conservative ideology. He is a populist and a nationalist, to the extent he has any core beliefs. He can, I think, be an effective pragmatist. The nation can use a pragmatist for a change. But he must learn to control his ego and his temper.
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He is indeed the same person - the same political chameleon, the same bombastic salesman, the same temperamental and impulse-driven manchild.
I hope he can do some good for the nation. I will give him a fair shot to do so, and recognize that he cannot be fairly judged on the basis of conservative ideology. He is a populist and a nationalist, to the extent he has any core beliefs. He can, I think, be an effective pragmatist. The nation can use a pragmatist for a change. But he must learn to control his ego and his temper.
I just wish more of his actual supporters had the courage to question him like Joe Walsh.
(http://i.imgur.com/9MfkyDi.png)
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If they ever remake the Omega Man I would cast Julian in the roll played by Anthony Zerbe in the 1971 classic.. No make-up would be needed.
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I was vehemently anti Trump throughout this election cycle but have no option now but to wish him well!
I sincerely hope I will be proven to have been 100% wrong about everything I said about him. We will see no matter what.
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The respect he has earned with me derives solely from my respect for the office he has won. He is the next President...
The Feds are no longer operating as a Constitutional Republic, but as an oligarchy in support of an imperial or dictatorial Executive.
I don't have to respect such an 'office', given it no longer functions as intended under the rule of law that the entire Beast at Mordor on the Potomac has discarded and/or ignored.
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I can make observations, they say Trump isn't conservative but support open borders politicians like Dubya Bush or they supported Cruz who clearly revamped his immigration policy to look more like Trump's and campaigned with Cruz, yet, the Cruz supporters say the nastiest things, reflecting the way the Cruz campaign was, one that Marco Rubio called the dirtiest ever. Levin-bots and Beck-bots parrot about being the true constitutional conservative; but all a lot of talk since they can't lean back on a record like say, Governor Perry and Governor Walker have. They complain about Putin, yet wouldn't vote for Romney in some cases. Total inconsistencies.
You should sent Cruz a bill for rent Tom. Sheesh.
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To me, now that the election is over, judging Trump the person is pretty much irrelevant. I'm going to judge him based on the things he actually does, which is so far limited to nominations. I do think he'll continue to say some stupid things, but I'm going to wait to see how things come out after he deliberates with his cabinet/advisors, etc., before making an actual determination.
One unexpected bonus is that the Dems seem to have no interest in trying to co-opt him on aspects of his agenda they might support, such as the plan he floated for paid maternity/sick leave. They apparently have decided to go all hate, all the time. Given his personality, that makes it less likely that he'll want to cooperate with them on anything, which is probably a plus. He'll hold a grudge, and screw with them whenever he gets a chance.
At the same time, I think guys like Ryan have figured out that the best way to influence Trump is to pretend to be his buddy. So, based on his nominations (which I generally really like), and how closely he seems to be working with Congressional Republicans, I'm much more optimistic than when I first decided (reluctantly) back in June to support him in November. Of course, we still have to see how it all comes out in the wash....
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The Feds are no longer operating as a Constitutional Republic, but as an oligarchy in support of an imperial or dictatorial Executive.
I don't have to respect such an 'office', given it no longer functions as intended under the rule of law that the entire Beast at Mordor on the Potomac has discarded and/or ignored.
Sorry, INVAR, I'm still an optimist about this country and respect the office of the Presidency. I reject totally your hysterical assertion that we no longer operate as a Constitutional Republic. You've proven yourself an abject extremist on many matters. That's not my bag - I'm a pragmatic conservative, still invested in this nation and its greatness as Reagan's Shining City.
(By the way, I was visiting relatives in Cali last week, and had a couple hours to kill in Santa Barbara. I was pleasantly surprised to run across Young America's Foundation's museum downtown regarding the Reagan ranch, about 40 miles away. I had a great talk with the volunteer who gave me the tour, and admitted that I'd been voting GOP my whole life with the exception of this year. We both agreed we'll likely never see the Gipper's like again. AND HE WAS, LET'S NOT FORGET, A PRAGMATIST!)
Here's a LINK (http://reaganranch.yaf.org/) regarding the Reagan ranch and YAF's very interesting center/museum (the Reagan Ranch Center) in downtown Santa Barbara.
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You should sent Cruz a bill for rent Tom. Sheesh.
I see Ted Cruz stepped outside of Trump orthodoxy today and slammed Julian Assange for endangering American troops and allies. Said it would be very unlikely that he would ever find a reason to praise him.
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You should sent Cruz a bill for rent Tom. Sheesh.
@Idaho_Cowboy
Cruz---you mean that guy @TomSea supported? :laugh:
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I see Ted Cruz stepped outside of Trump orthodoxy today and slammed Julian Assange for endangering American troops and allies. Said it would be very unlikely that he would ever find a reason to praise him.
@Cripplecreek
That loud screeching noise you hear is the crowd of Trump supporters who've been praising that anti-American scum braking to a quick halt and slamming into reverse.
Oliver DarcyVerified account
@oliverdarcy
Newt Gingrich to Hannity: Julian Assange is such a "down to earth, straight forward interviewee"
Dustin Volz @dnvolz 14h14 hours ago
Dustin Volz Retweeted Oliver Darcy
Gingrich, 2010: "Julian Assange is engaged in terrorism. He should be treated as an enemy combatant."
Back to that original position, Newt! Quick!
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@Cripplecreek
That loud screeching noise you hear is the crowd of Trump supporters who've been praising that anti-American scum braking to a quick halt and slamming into reverse.
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Newt Gingrich to Hannity: Julian Assange is such a "down to earth, straight forward interviewee"
Dustin Volz @dnvolz 14h14 hours ago
Dustin Volz Retweeted Oliver Darcy
Gingrich, 2010: "Julian Assange is engaged in terrorism. He should be treated as an enemy combatant."
Back to that original position, Newt! Quick!
Trump is trying to backpedal as well. I didn't screencap it but Trump is blaming the media for making it look like he agrees with Assange. He says he's just telling the people what Assange said. LOL
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Sorry, INVAR, I'm still an optimist about this country and respect the office of the Presidency.
Good for you.
I'm not and don't. I'm merely speaking my opinion on a forum board.
I reject totally your hysterical assertion that we no longer operate as a Constitutional Republic.
None so blind and all that. Apparently you missed the last 4 years of overt abandonment of the rule of law by the Executive and Congress. Do we really need to list all the examples of the Executive and the Courts and the Congress acting outside of their Constitutional limits or surrendering them wholesale to another branch???
There's this word called 'precedent' - and that is what now governs us. Not the parchment that all of D.C. merely pays lip service to while working to undermine at every turn.
You've proven yourself an abject extremist on many matters.
Happy to be declared so.
That's not my bag - I'm a pragmatic conservative, still invested in this nation and its greatness as Reagan's Shining City.
I'm invested in the principles that once were our Foundations that this culture, society and the government now largely reject. Reagan could never be elected in the current climate and the City on the Hill is no longer populated by the kinds of people that elected him twice. You can pretend that is not the case all you like.
We both agreed we'll likely never see the Gipper's like again. AND HE WAS, LET'S NOT FORGET, A PRAGMATIST!
Reagan never compromised or surrendered his principles for pragmatism. You can ask Gorby all about that. The principles he held, are now only revered by a small minority. The rest want what the Left offers, or Populist Nationalists offer. Not what Reagan stood for.
THOSE principles, both parties reject. Fact.
Reagan is not coming back to lead us. We are no longer a people that would empower such a statesman, and the oligarchy will never permit someone like Reagan to ever head their party again.
You can scoff at that truth if you like. Human history illustrates that a declining culture's people will often attack and hate those who dare speak the truth about their situation.
If that makes me an 'extremist', then so be it. Our Founders were 'extremists'. I stand in good company.
"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it". - John Adams, July 7, 1775
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Trump is trying to backpedal as well. I didn't screencap it but Trump is blaming the media for making it look like he agrees with Assange. He says he's just telling the people what Assange said. LOL
Lol, I might have to check out another forum to see how this is being taken. It's probably similar to...you know that robot from the old Star Trek series that went haywire and blew up when Kirk fed it too much information? Yep, that. ^-^
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He can, I think, be an effective pragmatist. The nation can use a pragmatist for a change.
Trump ain't one of those either
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INVAR, I certainly scoff at your paranoia and lack of faith in the greatness of this nation. Our "culture" is just fine - more folks are able to secure the American dream than ever before, as hidebound prejudice slowly but surely fades away.
Of course a man like Ronald Reagan could be elected again. Heck, I submit that one already has - Mike Pence. (Now the issue is how to persuade the Trumpster that both he and the country would be better off if he were running his businesses :seeya: )
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Trump ain't one of those either
I think he is. We'll soon find out.
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Our "culture" is just fine -
If your a perverted leftwinger at least
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INVAR, I certainly scoff at your paranoia and lack of faith in the greatness of this nation.
That would be because you put your faith in political leaders who tell you what you want to hear, or into institutions of men, or into a people and culture who have devolved into as wicked and perverted a society as anything Sodom and Gomorrah served up.
Not even Rome messed around with changing the definition of marriage, or who or what sex a person is outside of what they feel like being at any given moment.
Our "culture" is just fine - more folks are able to secure the American dream than ever before, as hidebound prejudice slowly but surely fades away.
And we're done talking.
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I see Ted Cruz stepped outside of Trump orthodoxy today and slammed Julian Assange for endangering American troops and allies. Said it would be very unlikely that he would ever find a reason to praise him.
@Cripplecreek
My previous posts probably made little sense because I read this too quickly and thought you were speaking about Trump, not Cruz.
Sheesh...
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The ones who think a foul-mouthed narcissistic moron can magically transform into a pragmatic statesman are saying the culture is just fine, lol.
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The ones who think a foul-mouthed narcissistic moron can magically transform into a pragmatic statesman are saying the culture is just fine, lol.
The lunacy that passes for wisdom these days makes my entire point about a society in decline headed for despotism or collapse.
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And we're done talking.
If you say so. But bigotry is fast fading, especially among the younger generation. I look forward with optimism toward the future.
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The ones who think a foul-mouthed narcissistic moron can magically transform into a pragmatic statesman are saying the culture is just fine, lol.
I'm not counting on magic, but on Trump's appreciation for the seriousness of his office, and the magnitude of his responsibilities. Some folks grow. Others are just gonna hate because hate is all they know.
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If you say so. But bigotry is fast fading, especially among the younger generation. I look forward with optimism toward the future.
The younger generation are abject morons
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I'm not counting on magic, but on Trump's appreciation for the seriousness of his office, and the magnitude of his responsibilities. Some folks grow. Others are just gonna hate because hate is all they know.
Trump has shown no appreciation for the seriousness of the office. None.
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The younger generation are abject morons
That is because they are no longer governed by the principles and Providence that forged and founded the nation.
They are instead governed by their genitalia, their desires no matter what they are and the morality that gives them license to do whatever they feel like without responsibility and have other pay for it.
The bedrock of our society has been dug up, discarded and is being replaced by the vain appetites of men disguised as righteousness.
In such an environment, liberty cannot be maintained or survive, according to the Founders themselves - which I why I have no optimism for the nation's future.
A growing number of self-identifying Conservatives that have more in common with their Leftist counterparts in their zealotry to do away with 'bigotry' already applaud the application of tyranny to force the biblically adherent to capitulate to ideas and practices anathema to their religion.
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Trump has shown no appreciation for the seriousness of the office. None.
Judging from his Tweets, I would agree.
Other than his Tweets, I have no problem.
But Trump will be Trump.
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In such an environment, liberty cannot be maintained or survive, according to the Founders themselves - which I why I have no optimism for the nation's future.
:thumbsup:
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There are a fair number here that are "bamboozled," as well. They seem to answer every liberal media uttering, and see "Trump militants," and "Russian trolls," everywhere.
I went to a Trump rally in Costa Mesa CA. Prior to this event, the media had depicted Trump supporters as being solely old white guys.
In fact what I saw at the rally proved to me the media was lying. Too bad there isn't sharper scrutiny by Trump's detractors, so they don't fall for every tidbit of crap.
The only violent people at that rally were young, Marxist inspired student age people. La Raza types. throwing bricks on cars passing on a freeway, that weren't even connected to the rally.
But hey, don't let me bother TDS sufferers with facts.
And you wonder why you get some of the responses to your posts that you do...
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Trump has shown no appreciation for the seriousness of the office. None.
QFT
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A growing number of self-identifying Conservatives that have more in common with their Leftist counterparts in their zealotry to do away with 'bigotry' already applaud the application of tyranny to force the biblically adherent to capitulate to ideas and practices anathema to their religion.
If homosexual behavior is against your religion, then don't practice it. Don't agitate for the state to enforce your morality against others in contravention of the Constitution's guarantee of the law's equal protection.
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I look forward with optimism toward the future.
WTF?
And I fart rainbows
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If homosexual behavior is against your religion, then don't practice it. Don't agitate for the state to enforce your morality against others in contravention of the Constitution's guarantee of the law's equal protection.
nor prohibit the free exercise of my morality
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WTF?
And I fart rainbows
Reagan was an optimist. And so am I.
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nor prohibit the free exercise of my morality
But that is what they want, and that is what they really mean by all their pretend respect for 'equal protection'.
It's not about 'equal protection'. It never was.
Notice how they always state in one breath that if you do not accept it the behavior, do not do it, but in the next - suggest that your refusal to acknowledge or participate is 'forcing your morality on others'. Because what it really all about is a seared conscience and they cannot tolerate the idea that people exist that look on their behavior as sinful.
It was and is all about FORCING acceptance and acknowledgment and insisting on celebration and participation in the NAME of 'equal protection', using the Constitution and 'the law' as a sledgehammer to those opposed.
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WTF?
And I fart rainbows
You're a unicorn? Who knew?
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If homosexual behavior is against your religion, then don't practice it. Don't agitate for the state to enforce your morality against others in contravention of the Constitution's guarantee of the law's equal protection.
Everybody has their own set of morals....even if they say they don't. Leftists are fond of using the line about not doing something if it upsets you but not stopping other people from doing that thing.
Following that "logic," since I don't practice slavery or human trafficking, and people doing it doesn't affect me personally, I shouldn't be upset that other people do it.
The question is: whose morals do we follow...the new ones the leftists established in the last 30-40 years or the ones that have been established for several thousand years?
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Everybody has their own set of morals....even if they say they don't. Leftists are fond of using the line about not doing something if it upsets you but not stopping other people from doing that thing.
Following that "logic," since I don't practice slavery or human trafficking, and people doing it doesn't affect me personally, I shouldn't be upset that other people do it.
The question is: whose morals do we follow...the new ones the leftists established in the last 30-40 years or the ones that have been established for several thousand years?
Since you want someone to choose... I choose my morals.
Yours are an abomination.
Anyone who does not follow mine is a heretic and should be burned alive.
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Problem solved.
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That's the problem with your line of reasoning.
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Morals were established for the furtherance and continued raising of civilization. So go the morals so goes civilization.
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You're a unicorn? Who knew?
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I blow it out my ass... So I have been told. :shrug: