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Title: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: mystery-ak on April 14, 2021, 07:41:37 pm
Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
By Rebecca Kheel and Morgan Chalfant - 04/14/21 03:04 PM EDT

President Biden on Wednesday laid out his plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end America’s longest war by the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that spurred the conflict.

“War in Afghanistan was never meant to be a multigenerational undertaking,” Biden said during a speech delivered in the Treaty Room of the White House, where former President George W. Bush announced the start of the war. “It’s time to end the forever war.”

Biden’s deadline, if adhered to, would bring to a close a chapter of U.S. history that saw more than 2,300 troops killed in combat and has cost the country as much as $1 trillion.

“I believed that our presence in Afghanistan should be focused on the reason we went in the first place: to ensure Afghanistan would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland again. We did that, we accomplished that objective,” Biden said. “I've concluded that it's time to end America's longest war. It's time for American troops to come home.”

Biden argued the reasons for keeping a U.S. military presence in the war-torn country have become “increasingly unclear” as the terrorist threat has become more dispersed over recent years.

The president stressed that the U.S. would execute the withdrawal plans in coordination with allies and partners and would continue to provide humanitarian assistance and support peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban.

In announcing a withdrawal by September, Biden is pushing back a May 1 deadline that was set in an agreement with the Taliban signed last year by the Trump administration.

Under the terms of the agreement, the Taliban were supposed to uphold certain commitments including denying safe haven for al Qaeda and other terrorists intent on attacking the West and reducing attacks on Afghan forces.

U.S. military officials have repeatedly said the Taliban have yet to meet their ends of the deal. But Biden said Wednesday the United States “will hold the Taliban accountable towards commitment not to allow any terrorist to threaten the United States or its allies from Afghan soil.”

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/548261-biden-lays-out-plan-for-afghanistan-withdrawal
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: mystery-ak on April 14, 2021, 08:31:27 pm
Biden spoke to Bush, Obama ahead of Afghanistan troop withdrawal
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/548257-biden-spoke-to-bush-obama-ahead-of-afghanistan-withdrawal-announcement
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: mystery-ak on April 14, 2021, 08:32:56 pm
Pulling out on Sept 11, 2021..to me that is a victory for the Taliban which they will no doubt use as propaganda..
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: Fishrrman on April 14, 2021, 10:55:25 pm
mystery observed:
"Pulling out on Sept 11, 2021..to me that is a victory for the Taliban which they will no doubt use as propaganda.."

See this one-line post I put up a day ago:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,434112.msg2412124.html#msg2412124
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: txradioguy on April 15, 2021, 12:37:05 am
Pulling out on Sept 11, 2021..to me that is a victory for the Taliban which they will no doubt use as propaganda..

Beat me to it.  You are dead on with that.
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: sneakypete on April 15, 2021, 11:02:56 am
Pulling out on Sept 11, 2021..to me that is a victory for the Taliban which they will no doubt use as propaganda..

@mystery-ak

So what? We obviously never had ANY intention on winning,so we should have never been there to start with.

You win wars by declaring  your enemies to BE your enemies,and then doing everything you CAN do to kill them,destroy their funding,destroy their infrastructure,and to starve them into submission.

We never did ANY of that stuff. What we did instead was to kiss their asses and give them money and other financial aid.

The plain FACT is that it is ISLAM that is our declared enemy,and nobody in government has the balls to recognize this fact. Anything we do that isn't designed to destroy Islamic governments and kill their leaders is a waste of time,money,and American blood.

Hell,we didn't even do what is THE most basic move,which is to cut off their funding. Don't want to piss off the Sauds,ya know!
Title: Re: Biden lays out plan for Afghanistan withdrawal
Post by: Sled Dog on April 15, 2021, 06:44:05 pm
@mystery-ak

So what? We obviously never had ANY intention on winning,so we should have never been there to start with.

You win wars by declaring  your enemies to BE your enemies,and then doing everything you CAN do to kill them,destroy their funding,destroy their infrastructure,and to starve them into submission.

We never did ANY of that stuff. What we did instead was to kiss their asses and give them money and other financial aid.

The plain FACT is that it is ISLAM that is our declared enemy,and nobody in government has the balls to recognize this fact. Anything we do that isn't designed to destroy Islamic governments and kill their leaders is a waste of time,money,and American blood.

Hell,we didn't even do what is THE most basic move,which is to cut off their funding. Don't want to piss off the Sauds,ya know!

Can it be called a "war" when one of the sides has not only no intention of winning but no definition of "victory" in the first place?

In WWII, the goal was to stop Hitler and force Japan to surrender.   

In Korea the goal was pointless...stop communism.

In Vietnam the goal was to spend money.

In Trashcanistan the only visible goal was the same, spend infinite money but don't kill the enemy too hard, or the gravy train will stop.