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Title: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 07:43:00 pm
Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio

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Jan 24, 2024, 12:15 PM | Updated: 12:36 pm

PHOENIX — Arizona Republican Party Chair Jeff DeWit resigned Wednesday after audio was leaked of him apparently offering Kari Lake a financial incentive to stay out of the 2024 U.S. Senate race.

DeWit’s departure comes as The Daily Mail, a British news organization, released audio on Tuesday from the March 2023 conversation between the two. DeWit, in announcing his resignation, said the clip was a “deceptive tactic” and a “selectively edited audio recording.”

“I said things I regret, but I realize when hearing Lake’s recording that I was set up,” DeWit said in a statement.

“I believe she orchestrated this entire situation to have control over the state party and it is obvious from the recording that she crafted her performance responses with the knowledge that she was recording it, intending to use this recording later to portray herself as a hero in her own hero.

More:  https://ktar.com/story/5558919/arizona-gop-chair-jeff-dewit-resigns-following-leaked-kari-lake-audio/

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Good deal.  DeWitless has been trying to destroy AZGOP since he was elected last January....
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Bigun on January 24, 2024, 07:49:54 pm
Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio

More:  https://ktar.com/story/5558919/arizona-gop-chair-jeff-dewit-resigns-following-leaked-kari-lake-audio/

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Good deal.  DeWitless has been trying to destroy AZGOP since he was elected last January....

 :yowsa: 888high58888
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: bigheadfred on January 24, 2024, 07:52:01 pm
 :yowsa:
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: rustynail on January 24, 2024, 07:59:13 pm
'*itch set me up'...
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 24, 2024, 08:04:52 pm
You ran your mouth and you got caught.

Sucks to be you.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Timber Rattler on January 24, 2024, 08:10:48 pm
You ran your mouth and you got caught.

Sucks to be you.

Yeah, but he was just the messenger for the "East Coast" power people.  I want know who they are.  McConnell?  McDaniel?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on January 24, 2024, 09:04:20 pm
'*itch set me up'...
Yeah, he's the Marion Berry of AZ, poor l'il fella.

The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru
@Garrett_Archer
BREAKING: @AZGOP Chairman Jeff Dewit has resigned as a result of being recorded in a private conversation with Kari Lake. He claims Lake's people told him to resign now or face a more damaging recording.
2:18 PM · Jan 24, 2024
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Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 09:05:47 pm
Yeah, but he was just the messenger for the "East Coast" power people.  I want know who they are.  McConnell?  McDaniel?

 I wanna know, too!  Who's screwing around with AZ now?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 09:09:46 pm
Yeah, he's the Marion Berry of AZ, poor l'il fella.

The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru
@Garrett_Archer
BREAKING: @AZGOP Chairman Jeff Dewit has resigned as a result of being recorded in a private conversation with Kari Lake. He claims Lake's people told him to resign now or face a more damaging recording.
2:18 PM · Jan 24, 2024


Garrett Archer is a worm!  I'd go look at this tweet, but he blocked me.  He bills himself as a brilliant statistician, and I replied to him that he loves statistics the way OJ Simpson loved Nicole Brown. 
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on January 24, 2024, 09:13:04 pm
Steve Bannon says that the DeSantis campaign  possibly was in league with the guy who allegedly threatened Kari Lake.
https://twitter.com/Unfilteredboss1/status/1750149237671928087



John Cardillo
@johncardillo
The guy on the recording with Kari Lake is Jeff DeWit.
DeWit’s partial resume:
- Trump‘s 2016 AZ chair
- Trump‘s NASA CFO
- Trump‘s 2020 campaign COO
Something tells me DeWit isn’t a DeSantis guy.
12:26 PM · Jan 24, 2024
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Polly Ticks on January 24, 2024, 09:17:43 pm
[...] I replied to him that he loves statistics the way OJ Simpson loved Nicole Brown.

 :rolling:
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Polly Ticks on January 24, 2024, 09:19:39 pm
Steve Bannon says that the DeSantis campaign  possibly was in league with the guy who allegedly threatened Kari Lake.
[tweet]

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
The guy on the recording with Kari Lake is Jeff DeWit.
DeWit’s partial resume:
- Trump‘s 2016 AZ chair
- Trump‘s NASA CFO
- Trump‘s 2020 campaign COO
Something tells me DeWit isn’t a DeSantis guy.
12:26 PM · Jan 24, 2024

Well gee whiz.  I thought Trump decided that everything was all sunshine and puppies with DeSantis since he dropped out. 
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 09:20:50 pm
Steve Bannon says that the DeSantis campaign  possibly was in league with the guy who allegedly threatened Kari Lake.

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
The guy on the recording with Kari Lake is Jeff DeWit.
DeWit’s partial resume:
- Trump‘s 2016 AZ chair
- Trump‘s NASA CFO
- Trump‘s 2020 campaign COO
Something tells me DeWit isn’t a DeSantis guy.
12:26 PM · Jan 24, 2024

He's not exactly a Cyber Liberty guy, either.  We're happy in our corner of the state.  I'm looking forward to his minions paying a price, too.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 09:23:41 pm
Well gee whiz.  I thought Trump decided that everything was all sunshine and puppies with DeSantis since he dropped out.

I am doubting Bannon on this one.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on January 24, 2024, 09:26:10 pm
I am doubting Bannon on this one.

Me too. Let's see how things flesh out.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: DB on January 24, 2024, 09:28:45 pm
I am doubting Bannon on this one.

I've never trusted Bannon. He was full of crap back in 2016 when I first heard of him. He's not a conservative.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Lando Lincoln on January 24, 2024, 10:17:56 pm
Who or what was bankrolling the effort?  We will never know.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 10:27:06 pm
In his resignation statement, he trashed the state of the AZGOP, calling it a shambles.

Kelli Ward, the prior Chair, disagrees.   I can back up her claims:  https://kelliward.com/email-letters/20240124-dewittresigns
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 24, 2024, 10:28:20 pm
Who or what was bankrolling the effort?  We will never know.

 :shrug:

Probably not.  We have a Rat AG.  That said, she may be in a knife-twisting mood.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on January 24, 2024, 10:42:56 pm
I am doubting Bannon on this one.
A good course of action.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 24, 2024, 10:47:14 pm
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DeWit, in announcing his resignation, said the clip was a “deceptive tactic” and a “selectively edited audio recording.”

The recording can be heard here, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12996297/EXCLUSIVE-Audio-recording-reveals-moment-senior-Republican-figure-tried-bribe-Kari-Lake-not-run-Senate.html . It's over 10 1/2 minutes long, so "selectively edited" my excessively substantial ...

On another tack, is trying to bribe someone not to run for office a criminal act? State of Arizona or Federal law?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 24, 2024, 11:41:55 pm
Who knew the GOP estblishment was run by very powerful people back East who have contempt for people out West?

I am not one of those very powerful people back East.

If the GOP/RNC had anything to offer the deplorables, it would not feel the need to rig its primaries.  Same goes for Dems.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 25, 2024, 12:39:24 am
Who knew the GOP estblishment was run by very powerful people back East who have contempt for people out West?

I am not one of those very powerful people back East.

If the GOP/RNC had anything to offer the deplorables, it would not feel the need to rig its primaries.  Same goes for Dems.
Which is why bugger-all has been done to ramp up election security since 2020.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mystery-ak on January 25, 2024, 03:28:17 pm

Michael Patrick Leahy – Sources: The Jeff DeWit “Message Came From The NRSC” aka Mitch McConnell
January 24, 2024 | Sundance

Michael Patrick Leahy appears on Steve Bannon War Romm discussing, in part, the Jeff DeWit message to Kari Lake and who from “back east” was the originator of the message to bribe Mrs Lake to stay out of the Arizona senate race.   

As expected, the sources for MPL’s report outline that Mitch McConnell and the National Republican Senatorial Committee originated the proposal.  This should not be a surprise to anyone who reads CTH.   The NRSC is primarily funded by the biggest lobbying group, the U.S Chamber of Commerce.  The USCoC fund the legislative priorities of the Senate and Mitch McConnell does their bidding.  In essence the bribe money would come from the USCoC into the NRSC. 

Watch:
https://rumble.com/embed/v46hv2r/?pub=4

more
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/24/michael-patrick-leahy-sources-the-jeff-dewit-message-came-from-the-nrsc-aka-mitch-mcconnell/
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 25, 2024, 04:04:31 pm
Senators represent their state governments and the people of their states - not Mitch McConnell, not National Republican Senatorial Committee, not the RNC, and not their billionaire donors.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 25, 2024, 05:34:03 pm
Thinking this through a bit:

* Lake had her convo with DeWitt recorded. How many other DeWitt convos did she record? How many other R leaders did she distrust so much as to record their phone calls?

* Lake couldn't have known what DeWitt would propose. Lake also could not know whether his offer was a simple bribe or a recorded attempt to trap her. Whether bribe, trap, or both, recording DeWitt was smart!

* DeWitt was a go-between, a messenger. Will he have to take the fall? Or did he have the wariness to record the call setting him up to be a messenger?

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Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 27, 2024, 12:24:04 am
Thinking this through a bit:

* Lake had her convo with DeWitt recorded. How many other DeWitt convos did she record? How many other R leaders did she distrust so much as to record their phone calls?

* Lake couldn't have known what DeWitt would propose. Lake also could not know whether his offer was a simple bribe or a recorded attempt to trap her. Whether bribe, trap, or both, recording DeWitt was smart!

* DeWitt was a go-between, a messenger. Will he have to take the fall? Or did he have the wariness to record the call setting him up to be a messenger?

(https://cdn.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/05/outdoorhub-video-hiker-stumbles-snake-pit-2015-05-18_19-48-38.jpg)

Lake's stock just fell.

You come at someone 10 MONTHS after you recoreded them and you say you'll release more if they don't resign ?

Why would you do that ?

Why would you wait 10 months.

DeWitt is not running for the senate.  DeWitt isn't carrying the other baggage she has.  This isn't helping things at all.

Especially since the state GOP is meeting this weekend.  And I am getting all kinds of ugly notes from people about who is good and who is bad. 

Reminds me of Kansas.

I now have a few more questions about Kari Lake.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 27, 2024, 12:33:48 am

* DeWitt was a go-between, a messenger. Will he have to take the fall?

Offering someone a juicy position is NOT a bribe.  Let's get clear on that.  A bribe is illegal.  This was simply STUPID.  He could have just explained the deal and why and she could have said no.  She said she "can't be bought".  He told her this was a strategic move only he did it a very inexperienced and foolish way.

I could easily see someone saying.....get Lake to hold off until Kelly comes up again.  We can keep her going until then.....and maybe she can even gain some much needed experience in government, party operations, and how to run a campaign.

Mark Kelly comes up.....she blows him away.

Brian Lamb is a good man.  I've heard him speak on several occasions and I like him (not saying I don't like Lake).

So.....no bribe, just some strategy.

NO fall to take.  She just pushed him out of office with the threat of "additional recordings".  So, my guess is....someone is going to want to hear those recordings to ensure there is nothing actually illegal going on.  And if they get them, they might just go after any other recordings she might have (wonder if others are not a little concerned about conversations they had with her). 

Just what we need as we go into 2024. 

Arizona can't look any more stupid.

We are going to turn this seat over to Ruben Gallego, a certified left-wing jackass nutjob. 

We'll be pining for the day Sinnema was around to stop Biden because we can't effing win elections in Georgia (of all places).
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 28, 2024, 05:26:07 am
Lake booed at the State Mandatory meeting.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2024, 08:04:31 pm
Lake booed at the State Mandatory meeting.

I am glad I Proxied that one in.  But I had friends there.  It was a bit of a madhouse....
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Fishrrman on January 28, 2024, 11:39:35 pm
The "booing" at the meeting is a symptom of the state's Republican party falling apart.

Ms. Lake may or may not win the race for senator. She will have to beat the Maricopa county fraud better than last time.

But almost any way you look at it, Arizona is a blue state now...
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 28, 2024, 11:58:05 pm
I am glad I Proxied that one in.  But I had friends there.  It was a bit of a madhouse....

A bit ?

I know several people who are so dejected they ready to quit the party altogether.

I find it hard to keep propping them up when we have to deal with this kind of stupidity.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 29, 2024, 12:02:26 am
But almost any way you look at it, Arizona is a blue state now...

Not by a long shot.

Arizona is becoming like Kansas.  The moderates and conservatives in the GOP are at each other's throats.  If someone doesn't right things it will soon be the same tribal warfare we had in the midwest.  In 25 years, I had democratic governors (including Sebelius.....I barf just typing her name) more often than Republican.  And if you don't count Bill Graves (a milquetoast centrist), it's even worse.

Arizona is red. 

But more of that red is from the figurative blood being spilt each time we go through something like this.

At the County Mandatory meeting, Brian Ference (a self proclaimed journalist who was a member at large for the MCRC) got up on several occasions and was soundly booed.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: cato potatoe on January 29, 2024, 12:24:20 am
Lake booed at the State Mandatory meeting.

Hari Kari needs to host a daily outrage show on Newsmax, and let a serious candidate run for senate.  Her own party tried to bribe her into staying out, because she would probably lose.  If she had any sense, she would have kept that embarrassment to herself.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 29, 2024, 01:04:45 am
A bit ?

I know several people who are so dejected they ready to quit the party altogether.

I find it hard to keep propping them up when we have to deal with this kind of stupidity.

I am at the point where I just want to watch them burn, so I remain a PC and a SC.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on January 29, 2024, 02:23:00 pm
Hari Kari needs to host a daily outrage show on Newsmax, and let a serious candidate run for senate.  Her own party tried to bribe her into staying out, because she would probably lose.  If she had any sense, she would have kept that embarrassment to herself.

And yet the panicked in the party see her much like they see Trump.

I was warming up to her, until now. 

I have a lot of questions about this.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 03, 2024, 04:07:00 pm
Everything I read says BRIBE.

Can someone please tell me how this was a bribe.

She was offered an alternative to running so she would step out of the race because they think she can't win.  WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME.

But she used the word bribe and it is sticking. 

We are a country of drama queens.

Did DeWitt do anything illegal ?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 03, 2024, 04:10:24 pm
“Tons of Republicans have reached out to me after this to say, ‘I’m done,’” said Sean Noble, a Republican strategist based in Arizona who isn’t involved in the race. “It’s another massive drama completely irrelevant to what she should be doing.” He said he was hearing from Republican donors and activists who are trying to figure out how to get Sinema into the race.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kyrsten-sinema-gets-a-look-from-gop-as-kari-lake-stirs-drama/ar-BB1hIxqm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=23923827756d49cc876878a30e7f1ab8&ei=20

I'm starting to think Lake just handed the seat to Gallego.  If this does not straighten up soon, I won't vote for her as dog catcher.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on February 03, 2024, 05:14:42 pm
Some bribes are not the least bit unethical, let alone illegal - especially when the person being offered money is not a public official or employee.

Eat your vegetables, and I'll give you a cookie is a bribe. So what.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2024, 05:20:24 pm
Some bribes are not the least bit unethical, let alone illegal - especially when the person being offered money is not a public official or employee.

Eat your vegetables, and I'll give you a cookie is a bribe. So what.

So, is it a legal or illegal bribe DeWit was offering Kari Lake?  There was a lot of money being offered to a political candidate.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on February 03, 2024, 05:22:24 pm
So, is it a legal or illegal bribe DeWit was offering Kari Lake?  There was a lot of money being offered to a political candidate.
Depends on AZ law.
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In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
1. "Employee" includes a person employed by an enterprise or an agent or fiduciary of a principal.
2. "Employer" includes an enterprise or principal.
3. "Party officer" means a person who holds any position or office in a political party, whether by election, appointment or otherwise.

A.R.S. § 13-2601

A. A person commits bribery of a public servant or party officer if with corrupt intent:
1. Such person offers, confers or agrees to confer any benefit upon a public servant or party officer with the intent to influence the public servant's or party officer's vote, opinion, judgment, exercise of discretion or other action in his official capacity as a public servant or party officer; or
2. While a public servant or party officer, such person solicits, accepts or agrees to accept any benefit upon an agreement or understanding that his vote, opinion, judgment, exercise of discretion or other action as a public servant or party officer may thereby be influenced.
B. It is no defense to a prosecution under this section that a person sought to be influenced was not qualified to act in the desired way because such person had not yet assumed office, lacked jurisdiction or for any other reason.
C. Bribery of a public servant or party officer is a class 4 felony.

A.R.S. § 13-2602
:shrug:

Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2024, 05:32:20 pm
Depends on AZ law. :shrug:

 :shrug:

DeWit apparently thought it was serious enough to resign his Chair when it came to light.  His replacement is at least as bad as DeWitless.  The new boss is the same as the old boss, and that meets the approval of a segment of TBR.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Fishrrman on February 03, 2024, 11:43:08 pm
Looking ahead...

If Gallego runs as a dcommunist,
and
If Sinema runs as an "independent"
and
If Lake runs as a Republican,
then
Gallego will get the leftist and a bit of the independent vote
but
Sinema will get the lion's share of independents...

... thoroughly fracturing the leftist/independent votes.

That might just leave enough "Republicans" left voting for Lake to give her a win by plurality (as I believe there are no runoffs in AZ, right, Cyber?).

However, if they are able to persuade Sinema NOT to run, in a head-to-head contest Ms. Lake is going to have as difficult a time beating the communist as she had last time (getting beaten by the election apparatus and a communist apparatchik)...
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: mountaineer on February 03, 2024, 11:52:50 pm
DeWit apparently thought it was serious enough to resign his Chair when it came to light. 
Even if not illegal under AZ law, it was incredibly stupid on DeWit's part.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: sneakypete on February 04, 2024, 12:28:42 am
Senators represent their state governments and the people of their states - not Mitch McConnell, not National Republican Senatorial Committee, not the RNC, and not their billionaire donors.

@DefiantMassRINO

Wadda yew,sum kinda commie radical?

Weeze awatchin  yew,boy!
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 04, 2024, 04:27:37 am
So, is it a legal or illegal bribe DeWit was offering Kari Lake?  There was a lot of money being offered to a political candidate.

Many outlets have stated there was nothing illegal about it.  Offering money to a political candidate to get OUT of a race is hardly seeking influence.  It is seeking to improve a situation. 

DeWitt was an idiot in the way he handled it.  He should have laid out the offer and said here you are.....

She takes it and gets away from some of her baggage and beats Kelly the next time around.

As it is, she's toast in my book. 

And she probably handed the seat to a certifiable left-wing whack-job marxist.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 04, 2024, 04:29:01 am
Looking ahead...

If Gallego runs as a dcommunist,
and
If Sinema runs as an "independent"
and
If Lake runs as a Republican,
then
Gallego will get the leftist and a bit of the independent vote
but
Sinema will get the lion's share of independents...

... thoroughly fracturing the leftist/independent votes.

That might just leave enough "Republicans" left voting for Lake to give her a win by plurality (as I believe there are no runoffs in AZ, right, Cyber?).

However, if they are able to persuade Sinema NOT to run, in a head-to-head contest Ms. Lake is going to have as difficult a time beating the communist as she had last time (getting beaten by the election apparatus and a communist apparatchik)...

Lake just lost a whole lot of GOP support.

I don't think she could win if she ran unopposed.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 04, 2024, 04:31:33 am
:shrug:

DeWit apparently thought it was serious enough to resign his Chair when it came to light.  His replacement is at least as bad as DeWitless.  The new boss is the same as the old boss, and that meets the approval of a segment of TBR.

He's claiming her campaign threatene to release more damning recordings if he didn't resign. 

How long did she have those and why the eff would she do this NOW.

Why not ten months ago ?

Kari Lake....the woman who handed an Arizona Senate seat to a jackass marxist.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 04, 2024, 04:33:26 am
Even if not illegal under AZ law, it was incredibly stupid on DeWit's part.

Amen.

A total example of how not to do something. 

The guy just does not sound all that bright to me.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 07, 2024, 12:07:55 am
My precinct captain indicated they were getting out being in the organization and out of the party post 2024.

Lake was the last straw. 

I suspect at least one other precinct person in my precinct will follow them.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 09, 2024, 03:35:44 am
Thinking this through a bit:

* Lake had her convo with DeWitt recorded. How many other DeWitt convos did she record? How many other R leaders did she distrust so much as to record their phone calls?

Who else did she record  besides DeWitt ?

Would you talk to her in private ?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: Timber Rattler on February 09, 2024, 01:29:10 pm
Yeah, in exposing the bribe attempt, Lake ironically destroyed her own political career because nobody will ever trust her again in confidence.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 09, 2024, 01:40:15 pm
Yeah, in exposing the bribe attempt, Lake ironically destroyed her own political career because nobody will ever trust her again in confidence.

I don't know what is ironic about it.

There was no "bribe".  He was conveying a message (and did a lousy job of it). 

She should have gone public right there.  Not with the recording (still have questions about the ethics of recording others without their knowledge), but with the information that she was being "tempted" to stand down by those "back east".  There would have been no issues with that. 

And it should have been 10 months ago.  DeWitt does not get named.  She gets her message out and it helps her cause.

If she destroyed her career, she destroyed it because:

1.  She waited 10 months.
2.  She put the GOP in chaos just as the elections cycle is ramping up (and right before the state mandatory meeting).
3.  She pulls down a fellow Republican with questionable tactic.

She has caused a lot of damage in the party (some people I know have called this the "last straw" and are leaving the party).

She should also realize that people are not neutral about her.  While I applaud her efforts to get the election of 2022 vetted in court (and it should have been redone because it was not done right), her bleating "I won." didn't do her any good with a lot of people.
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2024, 01:43:28 pm
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I believe she orchestrated this entire situation to have control over the state party and it is obvious from the recording that she crafted her performance responses with the knowledge that she was recording it, intending to use this recording later to portray herself as a hero in her own hero.

Ya think?????
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 09, 2024, 04:42:07 pm
Ya think?????

Since I see you as a Trump devotee, I am curious to know you thoughts on Lake and your history. 

Did you support her prior to this mess ?
Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2024, 05:05:29 pm
Since I see you as a Trump devotee, I am curious to@ know you thoughts on Lake and your history. 

Did you support her prior to this mess ?

@HikerGuy83

I know,and care,next to nothing  about her.

And,I am NOT  a "Trump devotee". I support him because he is the only non-career politician  running,and because of his massive ego,ALL he cares about is how he gets written about in the history  books,and his ego demands he gets described as "The President that saved America".

Plus,he can't be distracted by making plans to run for re-election the day he moves into the WH.

Title: Re: Arizona GOP Chair Jeff DeWit resigns following leaked Kari Lake audio
Post by: HikerGuy83 on February 09, 2024, 08:06:23 pm
@HikerGuy83

I know,and care,next to nothing  about her.

And,I am NOT  a "Trump devotee". I support him because he is the only non-career politician  running,and because of his massive ego,ALL he cares about is how he gets written about in the history  books,and his ego demands he gets described as "The President that saved America".

Plus,he can't be distracted by making plans to run for re-election the day he moves into the WH.


@sneakypete

Thank you for the clarrification.

It helps if I can keep context to conversations.