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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: endicom on October 13, 2016, 06:35:59 am
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The Gateway Pundit
Jim Hoft
Oct. 13, 2016
REMEMBER: NEVER – EVER TRUST THE MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT MEDIA!
The hacks at The New York Times released a hit piece on Donald Trump tonight.
(Gee, who could have seen that coming!?!)
In their article a woman says she was groped by Donald Trump.
In his 70 years of being in the media spotlight Donald Trump HAS NEVER been accused of groping or assaulting a woman.
But their candidate Hillary needs some assistance.
More... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/ny-times-gets-punked-fake-groping-victim-used-velvet-underground-song-describe-trumped-attack/
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I have been hearing that they were going to do this and the Trump supporters on my facebook we just ignored it. We do understand that while wikileaks are throwing out real evidence of Clinton's wrong doing they would fight back with made up stuff they have been looking for garbage on Trump since he first came out as a candidate and haven't found much of anything yet. I laughed at the tape many a time a I have approached a group of men joking around I hear a few of their jokes before they realize I am near they always stop once they know a female is around they are more graphic than even bleep and I have been in groups of my gal friends where we got pretty raunchy and there were no men around to hear that was a private conversation. The Clintons have done just about everything criminlal to be done and evidence is coming in every day now plus many of the missing emails she deliberately erased for some reason. I think it is hilarious just like the media democratic polls that show her any points ahead they rig everything but they will get some real trouble if they do very much fraud voting they are finding it all across the nation even right now but those votes will not be counted,
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These women have had years of doing this, I saw one story that one lady's version of what happened is like something from Coronation Street, a British soap opera, the Octopus story. Some stoop at nothing.
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Thank God the Gateway Pundit was here to set the story straight. I expect all the rat media to drop this story immediately.
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The interesting thing about many song lyrics is that they often use common phrases and imagery.
I very much doubt Lou Reed originally coined the phrase or that many people have even ever heard the rather obscure Velvet Underground song in question. You have to get though half of the “song” (if you can even get that far) before the octopus reference is spoken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI-YiaWDgB4
I guess that Reed also originated the phrase “Take A Walk On The Wild Side” too.
22222frying pan
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Theory from /pol/, where human contact is a rare and unpleasant thing ....
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Oh for pete's sake. That is exactly how I described my 1st car date. Until this minute I never knew the phrase existed in a song by velvet underground. Believe me, the comparison comes easily to mind to any female who finds herself coping with a male who suddenly seems to have grown more than two hands. This is a very lame defense of Donalds behavior.
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The Gateway Pundit
Jim Hoft
Oct. 13, 2016
REMEMBER: NEVER – EVER TRUST THE MAINSTREAM DEMOCRAT MEDIA!
The hacks at The New York Times released a hit piece on Donald Trump tonight.
(Gee, who could have seen that coming!?!)
In their article a woman says she was groped by Donald Trump.
In his 70 years of being in the media spotlight Donald Trump HAS NEVER been accused of groping or assaulting a woman.
But their candidate Hillary needs some assistance.
More... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/ny-times-gets-punked-fake-groping-victim-used-velvet-underground-song-describe-trumped-attack/
Absolute pure lies. Jill Harth accused Trump of sexually assaulting her 20 years ago. And he settled the lawsuit in which those accusations were made. Trump never settles a suit unless there is some truth to it. I'll leave it to the intelligent amongst us to draw the obvious conclusion.
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Absolute pure lies. Jill Harth accused Trump of sexually assaulting her 20 years ago. And he settled the lawsuit in which those accusations were made. Trump never settles a suit unless there is some truth to it. I'll leave it to the intelligent amongst us to draw the obvious conclusion.
Two words: Roger Stone.
In an effort to discredit the real victims, he floods the media with fake ones.
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Absolute pure lies. Jill Harth accused Trump of sexually assaulting her 20 years ago. And he settled the lawsuit in which those accusations were made. Trump never settles a suit unless there is some truth to it. I'll leave it to the intelligent amongst us to draw the obvious conclusion.
People settle for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it's just cheaper and easier.
But never mind, sorry to disrupt the echo chamber here.
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This should settle the issue of tRump's character for all times.
I WAS NOT GROPED BY DONALD TRUMP, NOT A SINGLE TIME.
There it is, proof of his innocence in all these claims
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Trump never settles a suit unless there is some truth to it.
Where did that come from? Your nether orifice?
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And his first wife Ivana initially accused him of raping her. Which, when you read the description, yeah, it sounds like rape.
And again, I'll say this, which should be obvious to anyone who wants to think things through.
It's not out of the realm of belief that a young woman would get assaulted by a rich, powerful Trump and never say anything.
Whether it's out of fear of retribution and retaliation from someone powerful, or the thought that no one would believe them and that they just wanted to ruin or shake money out of a rich man.
The reasoning for not reporting it by the now 74 year old makes some sense. At first I thought, "Well that's the Mad Men era". Well, it's not. It was what, about 1980? But still, that is at least a decade before, going from memory, women started coming out more and actually accusing men of such things. At least, to any noticeable extent. And if that's what she believed was done and the societal norms were, so be it.
I understand that there's this urge to say all these are people paid by the Clintons or loyal to the Clintons. I'll admit these women say they're supporting Hillary. But again, all of these stories came out about Bill basically once he started running for President. At least they did on the national scene.
The bottom line is objectively it should be extremely obvious that as a general rule, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton view women in exactly the same way. If you can't see that you simply don't want to.
Trump's own words make it very easy to believe at least some of these accusations.
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At first I thought, "Well that's the Mad Men era".
IOW, you take your reality from leftist scriptwriters.
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No
But you apparently take your personality cues from Donald Trump.
I'd try to find another hero if I was you. But then, that's your choice.
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People settle for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it's just cheaper and easier.
But never mind, sorry to disrupt the echo chamber here.
That's rather odd, because this particular topic to this point has largely been a rally around and defend Donald echo chamber.
I realize that may not be the case overall at the site.
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People settle for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it's just cheaper and easier.
Donald Trump doesn't. Say even the slightest thing that he thinks is untrue, and you run the risk of being sued for libel. Oppose his candidacy, and if you're running for re-election as a republican he threatens to take you down and destroy your run for office - even though that means he's destroying republican control of the Congress. No, Donald Trump does not settle things unless there is at least a grain of truth to the allegations.
Past performance is a guide to future performance, regardless of what the SEC-approved securities prospectuses say.
If you can demonstrate - based on fact, not merely on your own heart-felt desires - that all - yes, all, because it only takes one to put the lie to these claims - of these women are lying, then you've made your case; otherwise, this article is a lie.
But never mind, sorry to disrupt the echo chamber here.
And yet, here you are. :pondering:
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People settle for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it's just cheaper and easier.
But never mind, sorry to disrupt the echo chamber here.
The first three posters on this thread are Trump lovers.
What "echo chamber" are you talking about, @driftdiver ??
If this forum were as bad as you guys whine that it is, you would be gone, wouldn't you?? Banned, and all that?
I just don't get why the accusation keeps being thrown out that this is an "echo chamber" when even a modicum of observation skills would show you that it's not.
What's the point of making a criticism that is clearly false?
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The first three posters on this thread are Trump lovers.
What "echo chamber" are you talking about, @driftdiver ??
If this forum were as bad as you guys whine that it is, you would be gone, wouldn't you?? Banned, and all that?
I just don't get why the accusation keeps being thrown out that this is an "echo chamber" when even a modicum of observation skills would show you that it's not.
What's the point of making a criticism that is clearly false?
The echo chamber that this place has become.
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The echo chamber that this place has become.
Except that it's not now, nor has it ever been.
It just bothers you that the majority of posters disagree with you.
This thread is proof that you are wrong. Why insist on whining about something that is entirely false.
If you want a Trump echo chamber, there are lots of options for you, primarily the vile TOS.
If you want freedom of speech and thought, stick around here. But don't whine that you don't have freedom to disagree.
Because you clearly do.
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The echo chamber that this place has become.
If the echo of truth offends you...you might be a liberal (Apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)
Be honest with us DD. You are going to excuse anything Trump does, arent you? Your statements show you don't give a rats ass about honesty when it comes to Trump, don't they? You want what you want and nothing is going to change that.
Just admit it and leave us to our echo chamber. Because you have lost all the respect most here had for you. There is no point in sticking around. Stop complaining about it and remove yourself from the situation. It couldn't be easier. But you won't do that will you. Nope. So spare us your wisdom.
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No
But you apparently take your personality cues from Donald Trump.
I'd try to find another hero if I was you. But then, that's your choice.
You are the standard fabricator here at TBR. I would find honesty, if I were you.
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You are the standard fabricator here at TBR. I would find honesty, if I were you.
Put the bong down Endi. What did that post mean in English anyway?
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The first three posters on this thread are Trump lovers.
Keep spewing those lies and you may just convince yourself.
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Keep spewing those lies and you may just convince yourself.
Project, you much.
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Put the bong down Endi. What did that post mean in English anyway?
That was in English. For the slow ones I'll explain that American Faith Today fabricated, invented, some nonsense to be used against me. Lied.
@American Faith Today
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The Velvet Argument "proof" of it being a hoax is not persuasive, for all the reasons previously pointed out.
On the other hand, those who so willingly accept this as truth should realize what they are enabling. This is a newly-minted allegation of something that allegedly happened 34 years ago. It is impossible for any man to disprove this kind of allegation because it is far too old. There's no date, no flight number, nothing that would enable an accused to rebut the accusation. It is simply accepting the word of a woman none of us know, at a key point in a political campaign where the incentive to manufacture a false allegation is at its peak.
If we accept this kind of garbage rather than rejecting it out of hand as unverifiable and too-suspiciously timed, then we might as well roll up the carpets in terms of winning elections. It's just another variation of the Killian memos and Dan Rather's bogus hit piece of George Bush -- late manufactured garbage designed to make a quick emotional impact on voters, truth be damned. We cannot accept these kind of last-minute smears as true based on nothing more than the unverified, unverifiable word of someone none of us knew existed until this story.
Sorry, but it someone wants to be believed with this kind of accusation, then they can't wait until the closing weeks of a Presidential campaign to make it unless they have some kind of independent verification demonstrating that it is not a last-minute invention. That should be the response of most thinking conservatives and Republicans, but because the target is Trump, too many are hopping gleefully on this as proof that they "were right all along".
Something more important than Trump-bashing is at stake, and it is a shame more don't see that.
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That was in English. For the slow ones I'll explain that American Faith Today fabricated, invented, some nonsense to be used against me. Lied.
@American Faith Today
Maybe it was in the English from the alternate reality you clearly get your info from. But in this one, no, it really wasn't. It was a collection of words that really said nothing coherent.
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Project, you much.
This is the dunce telling me to use English. Amazing.
Find one lie from me, dunce.
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Maybe it was in the English from the alternate reality you clearly get your info from. But in this one, no, it really wasn't. It was a collection of words that really said nothing coherent.
A call for coherence. From you?
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The accusations keep piling on and some from women where the groping happened 30 years ago! That's a long time to keep silent and a long time to be able to prove or discredit the groping. The audio tape cannot be disputed. What was claimed is he spoke words as opposed to actually groping.
Accusations against Hillary have been made of various different sorts while she has held public office. She has never been held responsible nor accountable and no admission of guilt or apology has ever been given. We know her husband was impeached for lying. We know that her husband has had other sexual escapades. Hillary's emails, gun/drug running, arming Syrian rebels, ties with Putin, Clinton Foundation (money laundering), Benghazi, etc., have all happened while she was in office. Reports are coming out that there is collusion between Clintons and the DOJ.
Both Trump and Hillary's characters are being scrutinized and rightfully so. Both have huge character flaws and both are unfit to be president. Hillary's flaws continue to pile up while she held office. Donald's have occurred while he has been a private citizen.
Whether he's been in the public eye or not does not excuse him. The fact that Hillary was in office while her accusations took place should not be taken as lightly and given a free pass as she has been given and to even consider entrusting Hillary with our country again and giving her the highest office in our government is not only stupid by downright dangerous.
Certainly Trumps 'escapades' with women are demoralizing and he has verbally insulted a lot of people. Hillary's actions have resulted in numerous people dying and she has put the security of our entire country at risk on more than one occasion.
Hillary must be prevented from becoming our next president. IF we can stop her, that ends the Clinton regime. She will be too old to run for office again. The Clinton Bush Clinton dynasty will be over. Perhaps as a country we will be able to begin to heal.
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This is the dunce telling me to use English. Amazing.
Find one lie from me, dunce.
It's truly amazing that a political savant such as yourself really didn't get the refrence. I'd bet most others reading it did.
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Here is where you know the article is just making it up...
In his 70 years of being in the media spotlight Donald Trump HAS NEVER been accused of groping or assaulting a woman.
The truth is, through his career, he has been plagued by these accusations, constantly. He even talks about it in many interviews. They are trying to whitewash their Orange messiah and now they are really stretching it, accusing this of a hoax because it sounded similar to song lyrics.....well good golly ms Molly.
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It's truly amazing that a political savant such as yourself really didn't get the refrence. I'd bet most others reading it did.
Understand, he does not.
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It's truly amazing that a political savant such as yourself really didn't get the refrence. I'd bet most others reading it did.
It's amazing that a conservative like you will derail any thread not aiding Hillary.
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Keep spewing those lies and you may just convince yourself.
Ummmm......... the first three posters on this thread are all Trump lovers.
What kind of "lie" do you imagine in that statement of clear fact?
I know you have a need to try to be clever, endi, but this accusation shouldn't even make sense to a fellow Trump lover....
Stop flailing. KAY???
(I don't lie about ANYTHING).
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Understand, he does not.
I think Yoda dropped that Xwing on his head.
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It's truly amazing that a political savant such as yourself really didn't get the refrence. I'd bet most others reading it did.
:raise hand: :raise hand: :raise hand:
I got it!!! I got it!!!
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Where did that come from? Your nether orifice?
Says the person who gets these Trump defense stories from said region.
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It's amazing that a conservative like you will derail any thread not aiding Hillary.
There's your most recent lie right there slick. You seem to do that a lot. But it's a common behavior of Trump's supporters so we're all used to seeing it.
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It's amazing that a conservative like you will derail any thread not aiding Hillary.
Hate to be a pest here, but the Mods don't want you to lie about Norm and accuse him of supporting Hillary.
It's not nice to tell such tall tales.... especially when accusing truth tellers of lying, as you have done.
Norm has more principled conservatism in his little finger than any of you Trump zealots have in your entire bodies.
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This is the dunce telling me to use English. Amazing.
Find one lie from me, dunce.
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59962736.jpg)
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:raise hand: :raise hand: :raise hand:
I got it!!! I got it!!!
Since it wasn't Donald Trump that said it, I really don't expect his supporters to know. They are only familiar with his blatherings. The rest of us? I'd be surprised if any non trumper on any political forum missed the reference. It was a freaking meme for the last year for God sakes.
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Hate to be a pest here, but the Mods don't want you to lie about Norm and accuse him of supporting Hillary.
It's not nice to tell such tall tales.... especially when accusing truth tellers of lying, as you have done.
Norm has more principled conservatism in his little finger than any of you Trump zealots have in your entire bodies.
Nah, let the liberal reinforce what he is for all to see. It's the lurkers they are turning off of trump. Net win for conservatism. I hope they keep doing it. As long as we can call them on it. Win/Win for our team.
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Yoda is just a conspiracy against Our Donald, praise be upon him.
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Yoda is just a conspiracy against Our Donald, praise be upon him.
Well people here and FR have both written actual prayers to him so clearly Trump is the way, the truth and the light.
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Ummmm......... the first three posters on this thread are all Trump lovers.
What kind of "lie" do you imagine in that statement of clear fact?
I know you have a need to try to be clever, endi, but this accusation shouldn't even make sense to a fellow Trump lover....
Despite the repeated explanations of why people will vote Trump, you call them "Trump lovers." You call me a "Trump lover" and that is a flat out lie. That's false witness, kid.
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Despite the repeated explanations of why people will vote Trump, you call them "Trump lovers." You call me a "Trump lover" and that is a flat out lie. That's false witness, kid.
And accusations like that…coming from someone who continues to push the lie that "if you don't support Trump you want Hillary to win"...is called hypocrisy.
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Despite the repeated explanations of why people will vote Trump, you call them "Trump lovers." You call me a "Trump lover" and that is a flat out lie. That's false witness, kid.
Yea, well your posts tell a different story.
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Despite the repeated explanations of why people will vote Trump, you call them "Trump lovers." You call me a "Trump lover" and that is a flat out lie. That's false witness, kid.
I don't think you really understand the concept of bearing false witness. It ain't the same thing as mischaracterization (which doesn't exist in this case at any rate).
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Despite the repeated explanations of why people will vote Trump, you call them "Trump lovers." You call me a "Trump lover" and that is a flat out lie. That's false witness, kid.
LOL!! That's IT??
You're calling me a liar because I used the words "Trump lover" for people who do nothing but sing his praises and screech at people who don't like him with false accusations of supporting Hillary??
Shirley, you jest!
Next time you call me a liar, I won't pay you no never mind..... and neither will any OTHER honest person on this forum. :dx1:
(But I gotta admit that last night when I made a joke about the Misfits and you stupidly accused me of supporting immorality, that was a lot funnier. Still laughing this morning at your boneheaded post! :silly: )
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No
But you apparently take your personality cues from Donald Trump.
I'd try to find another hero if I was you. But then, that's your choice.
Our options include NO HEROS. Any potential heros were smeared and jeered away during the Primaries.
Its very clearcut and straightforward, one either vote for tRump or effectively votes for hitlery. That is the choice, like it or not.
There is no rational argument whether or not tRump is basically a scumbag possessed of New York Values.
There is no rational argument whether or not hitlery will cause the greater, potentially permanent harm to America and the Constitution.
One this is certain, it will be impossible for him to be more of a lecherous scumbag in the WH than either of the klintoons.
There is a significant possibility that tRump does have patriotic intentions. There is no argument that hitlery possesses any patriotism.
So it boils down to whether you cast your vote on a personal feeling level or as did the Founders on an altruistic patriotic level.
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Our options include NO HEROS. Any potential heros were smeared and jeered away during the Primaries.
Its very clearcut and straightforward, one either vote for tRump or effectively votes for hitlery. That is the choice, like it or not.
There is no rational argument whether or not tRump is basically a scumbag possessed of New York Values.
There is no rational argument whether or not hitlery will cause the greater, potentially permanent harm to America and the Constitution.
One this is certain, it will be impossible for him to be more of a lecherous scumbag in the WH than either of the klintoons.
There is a significant possibility that tRump does have patriotic intentions. There is no argument that hitlery possesses any patriotism.
So it boils down to whether you cast your vote on a personal feeling level or as did the Founders on an altruistic patriotic level.
That's a pipe dream not based in reality. Trump is a narcissist. Assuming he has "patriotic intentions" is just wishful thinking, not based in any understanding of who he is.
As for the "personal feeling" vs. "altruistic patriotism"........ Poppycock.
Allegiance to a higher law, decency, integrity, and truth Have nothing to do with "feelings."
Supporting a corrupt, leftist reprobate knowing how dangerous he is, is purely based on feelings.
There is no patriotism in voting for an evil leftist like Trump. NONE.
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You're calling me a liar because I used the words "Trump lover" for people who do nothing but sing his praises and screech at people who don't like him with false accusations of supporting Hillary??
I've never "sung his praises." You continue to dissemble. False witness.
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I've never "sung his praises." You continue to dissemble. False witness.
If it makes you feel better to type that tripe, go for it......
You Trump cheerleaders won't have much to crow about after he is creamed by Hillary because he's a reprobate liar, and is self-destructing as we speak.
But Trump himself, probably will be pleased that his good pal Hillary got into the WH......
Fellow leftists that they are.
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I've never "sung his praises." You continue to dissemble. False witness.
1) You use that term…I do not think you know what it means.
2) With every story you post praising Orange Jesus you are singing his praisies.
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1) You use that term…I do not think you know what it means.
2) With every story you post praising Orange Jesus you are singing his praisies.
I wonder if he really doesn't see it. I find it amazing and amusing that he's denying the obvious, and then calling me (us) liars for pointing out the obvious.
Some of the Trump lackeys are just weird......
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I wonder if he really doesn't see it. I find it amazing and amusing that he's denying the obvious, and then calling me (us) liars for pointing out the obvious.
Some of the Trump lackeys are just weird......
He knows exactly what he's doing.
The stories he posts and the accusations he makes aren't by accident…with the exception of his incorrect use of the term "bearing false witness"
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Where did that come from? Your nether orifice?
Thats exactly where it came .Things like due processes,presumption of innocence, and healthy skepticism, are completely lost on the never trumps
Herman Cain ring a bell ? The Democratic party has been tossing around these kind of accusations at opposing candidates for years along with the lapdogs in the MSM
The rules about this kind of crap need to be either prove it a court of law or STFU
Their so consumed with their irrational foaming hate for trump that they willing to put a murderous corrupt hag in the White house
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Thats exactly where it came .Things like due processes,presumption of innocence, and healthy skepticism, are completely lost on the never trumps
@Charlespg
Not all of us never Trumpers
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He knows exactly what he's doing.
The stories he posts and the accusations he makes aren't by accident…with the exception of his incorrect use of the term "bearing false witness"
Yes, I agree.
And isn't it ironic that his use of "bearing false witness" is a deliberate falsehood? I seem to note that they go after people they know are completely honest, but can't tolerate Trump, and target us by calling us "liars."
It seems to be a pattern. A stupid pattern, however, because this forum is small enough so everyone knows that people like me aren't lying. We may have different honest opinions, but we don't lie.
And we are the ones that guys like this accuse of lying.
Seems kinda dumb to me. :laugh:
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I wonder if he really doesn't see it. I find it amazing and amusing that he's denying the obvious, and then calling me (us) liars for pointing out the obvious.
Some of the Trump lackeys are just weird......
Sure he does. He's just using the standard liberal tactic of diversion and denial.
I posted about it before but I used to work with a hard lib reporter that argued with me in a newsroom full of staff and regular people that 1+1 did not have to equal 2. He argued so forcefully he nearly got fired over his behavior.
It will surprise no one to hear that he went on later to work for a Dem state pol.
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@Charlespg
Not all of us never Trumpers
I'll back you up on that! :patriot:
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You Trump cheerleaders...
I have never been such. More dissembling. False witness.
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Thats exactly where it came .Things like due processes,presumption of innocence, and healthy skepticism, are completely lost on the never trumps
Herman Cain ring a bell ? The Democratic party has been tossing around these kind of accusations at opposing candidates for years along with the lapdogs in the MSM
The rules about this kind of crap need to be either prove it a court of law or STFU
Their so consumed with their irrational foaming hate for trump that they willing to put a murderous corrupt hag in the White house
Unlike the issue with Herman Cain…there are 20 settled lawsuits where either sexual harassment or sexual assault were claimed.
Oh and by the way…Bill Clinton was never found guilty in a court of law when it comes the the claims of sexual assault…yet he's excoriated by Republicans left and right.
Are you saying we should give him a pass too?
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Sure he does. He's just using the standard liberal tactic of diversion and denial.
I posted about it before but I used to work with a hard lib reporter that argued with me in a newsroom full of staff and regular people that 1+1 did not have to equal 2. He argued so forcefully he nearly got fired over his behavior.
It will surprise no one to hear that he went on later to work for a Dem state pol.
The fact that it's a liberal tactic is obvious.
The fact that they don't seem to realize that we KNOW it's a liberal tactic is what's baffling.
Do liberals REALLY think that Conservatives are all that dumb??
(Rhetorical question........ of course they do).
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I have never been such. More dissembling. False witness.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
Enjoy your day!
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I have never been such. More dissembling. False witness.
If you're not…then stop with the stories that bash Conservative Republicans that refuse to support this interloper.
Quit claiming that if we don't support Donny…we want Hillary to win.
You'd go a long way towards convincing us you're not a Trump cheerleader if you'd stop waiving the pom pons.
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Sure he does. He's just using the standard liberal tactic of diversion and denial.
No, that's you. The issue is in the title of the post but you divert to personal attacks.
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No, that's you. The issue is in the title of the post but you divert to personal attacks.
Sorry, I can't hear your words too well. The sound of you attacking conservatives as Hillary supporters is still echoing through the thread.
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No, that's you. The issue is in the title of the post but you divert to personal attacks.
Hmmmm............. I think that's what we call "false witness."
But never mind. You don't really grasp the concept too well, do you??
Now I finally have to put you on ignore as your cheerleading and misleading have become intolerable.
Us honest folks don't cotton much to your tactics.
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If you're not…then stop with the stories that bash Conservative Republicans that refuse to support this interloper.
I don't. Being told you are on the wrong track is not being bashed.
How about forgoing the bashing of TBR members and sticking to the topic?
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The fact that it's a liberal tactic is obvious.
The fact that they don't seem to realize that we KNOW it's a liberal tactic is what's baffling.
Do liberals REALLY think that Conservatives are all that dumb??
(Rhetorical question........ of course they do).
But they do realize it is. Because they are liberals using the tactic. Why wouldn't they realize?
He/they are just, as usual here, lying about it.Which is what liberals do as easily as draw breath.
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Hmmmm............. I think that's what we call "false witness."
You would because it exposes you.
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I don't. Being told you are on the wrong track is not being bashed.
You're dissembling. And adding a healthy dose of hair splitting.
You're not merely telling us we're on the wrong track. If you were saying that…I'd have no problem with you.
But that's not what you're saying.
How about forgoing the bashing of TBR members and sticking to the topic?
Considering you started it…lead by example.
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The closer we come to the election and Trump's throwing the election to Hillary, the more desperate the trolling and flailing is becoming.
My once very small IGNORE list is growing exponentially as the days come near when Hillary wins the WH because of foolish people who didn't see who Trump was and forced his liberalism on us in the primary.
One can only tolerate so much idiocy....... :shrug:
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Sorry, I can't hear your words too well. The sound of you attacking conservatives as Hillary supporters is still echoing through the thread.
If TBR was of any political significance then you would be just that.
So, what do you think of the groping charge? False?
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My once very small IGNORE list is growing exponentially...
I would feel honored to be on that list.
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If TBR was of any political significance then you would be just that.
So, what do you think of the groping charge? False?
I think Donald trump said he gropes women. I know he did as it is on tape. So If according to Trump supporters we have to believe he will nominate Conservative judges, then we ALSO have to believe he is a serial sexual abuser because he said it. Because we cannot pick and choose.
Now that puts the onus on you. Will you say here publicly that we should approve of sexual abuse against women by electing a man that admits to it on tape? Will you admit you want women thrown to the dogs to get your judges?
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I'll back you up on that! :patriot:
And those are good things to hold onto regardless of how someone feels about Donald Trump. That doesn't mean one has to vote for him. But what is everybody going to bitch about after Donald Trump loses in November?
There is starting to be a very disheartening and disturbing trend of people using leftist talking points and leftist publications to pile Donald Trump. I was hoping once he got the nomination that he would earn my vote. His big government ideas plus his authoritarian streak is not anywhere close to conservative ideology so as a conservative I cannot vote for him. Plus his total lack of character. And in this Donald Trump candidacy conservatives are getting nothing. But I am not going to adopt "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" philosophy in order to boost my opposition to Donald Trump
Part of being a conservative is to have a healthy skepticism especially in the world of politics and media.
There are too many that are holding onto the delusion that if it was Ted Cruz running now he would be so untouchable that the media could not do to him what they are doing to Donald Trump. It seems many have forgotten who the mainstream media is. After Trump loses the fight that conservatives are going to have will only just begin
I think too many latch onto any negative story about Trump not because they believe it could be true but because they want it to be true
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Theory from /pol/, where human contact is a rare and unpleasant thing ....
@EC
People use phrases they hear or read all the time if it fits their situation. Thinking someone is lying because he/she uses words/phrases that have been said/written before is not reliable to say someone is lying.
On forums, it is not unusual to read, "I am going to steal that." Then that person uses that word or phrase.
The Parade magazine reporter's writing about what Trump did to her is the most reliable example of Trump's groping/kissing women. Reading that one makes one nauseous. Trump's present wife was pregnant at the time this one happened and she was a friend of this reporter, they had a relationship.
After Trump assaulted her, the reporter got herself off the Trump assignment and stayed away from Trump from then on. She was accidentally in the same place as Trump's wife later, and the wife asked her why they didn't see her anymore. The reporter made up a reason.
When this assault report came out a day or so ago, I thought the wife was going to be very upset with Trump. I thought she may leave him over this one.
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And those are good things to hold onto regardless of how someone feels about Donald Trump. That doesn't mean one has to vote for him. But what is everybody going to bitch about after Donald Trump loses in November?
There is starting to be a very disheartening and disturbing trend of people using leftist talking points and leftist publications to pile Donald Trump. I was hoping once he got the nomination that he would earn my vote. His big government ideas plus his authoritarian streak is not anywhere close to conservative ideology so as a conservative I cannot vote for him. Plus his total lack of character. And in this Donald Trump candidacy conservatives are getting nothing. But I am not going to adopt "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" philosophy in order to boost my opposition to Donald Trump
Part of being a conservative is to have a healthy skepticism especially in the world of politics and media.
There are too many that are holding onto the delusion that if it was Ted Cruz running now he would be so untouchable that the media could not do to him what they are doing to Donald Trump. It seems many have forgotten who the mainstream media is. After Trump loses the fight that conservatives are going to have will only just begin
I'm reluctantly voting for Trump, but this is a post I'd hope every NeverTrumper on this site would read and take to heart. It is entirely possible to not support Trump without becoming an unwitting tool of the left. Unfortunately, I think far too many people have fallen into that trap.
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I'm reluctantly voting for Trump, but this is a post I'd hope every NeverTrumper on this site would read and take to heart. It is entirely possible to not support Trump without becoming an unwitting tool of the left. Unfortunately, I think far too many people have fallen into that trap.
I am willing to grant that. However, it is not "becoming an unwitting tool of the left" if you refuse to defend the indefensible, i.e. Trump's lecherous behavior towards women (to use a polite old fashioned term). If it's wrong for Bill Clinton then its wrong for Donald Trump.
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And those are good things to hold onto regardless of how someone feels about Donald Trump. That doesn't mean one has to vote for him. But what is everybody going to bitch about after Donald Trump loses in November?
There is starting to be a very disheartening and disturbing trend of people using leftist talking points and leftist publications to pile Donald Trump. I was hoping once he got the nomination that he would earn my vote. His big government ideas plus his authoritarian streak is not anywhere close to conservative ideology so as a conservative I cannot vote for him. Plus his total lack of character. And in this Donald Trump candidacy conservatives are getting nothing. But I am not going to adopt "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" philosophy in order to boost my opposition to Donald Trump
Part of being a conservative is to have a healthy skepticism especially in the world of politics and media.
There are too many that are holding onto the delusion that if it was Ted Cruz running now he would be so untouchable that the media could not do to him what they are doing to Donald Trump. It seems many have forgotten who the mainstream media is. After Trump loses the fight that conservatives are going to have will only just begin
I think too many latch onto any negative story about Trump not because they believe it could be true but because they want it to be true
Well, I know what I'll be griping about after Trump. Liberalism.
It's exactly what I'm so upset with now. The Republican party has sold its soul in nominating Trump. He isn't just moderate, or semi-liberal. He's full bore liberal.
So I'm attacking him now as a liberal, and when he has successfully handed the Presidency to Hillary (as he seems to be desperately trying to do), then I will be attacking the liberalism in her administration, exactly as I have done with Obama, and exactly as I would do with Trump.
Progressivism, whether it be in the form of a Clinton or a Trump, is the enemy of what's left of America. It has now succeeded in destroying a party I was once proud to be a part of, and it will soon succeed in finishing off America.
There was hope before, but no more. YES, the leftist press would have attacked any Republican nominee, but it would have been nothing but lies.
With Trump, they have truth, and that's what's unusual here. They don't even have to exaggerate to pummel the vile Trump.
This is the darkest hour in our lifetimes.
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@Charlespg
Not all of us never Trumpers
Well thanks at least thats rational
Look I am voting for trump because he is the lesser evil then Clinton
but any rational person ought be very skeptical of these kind claims especially when they are put out by the democratic party lackeys in the media
There is a another supposed video that reports to show trump telling a 10 year year old he'd be dating her in ten years ..where is it then ? and is that what he really said , ..the same thing with a woman who said Trump groped her in 2003 , back stage at a private Ray Charles concert..BULL S***
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Charles#1983.E2.80.932004:_ In 2003, Charles had successful hip replacement surgery and was planning to go back on tour, until he began suffering from other ailments. He died at his home in Beverly Hills, California, on June 10, 2004, surrounded by family and friends,[39][40] as a result of acute liver disease.[3] He was 73 years old. His funeral took place on June 18, 2004, at the First AME Church in Los Angeles with numerous musical figures in attendance.[41] B.B. King, Glen Campbell, Stevie Wonder and Wynton Marsalis each played a tribute at Charles's funeral.[42] He was interred in the Inglewood Park Cemetery.
the poor man was not in any condition to state a concert thats for sure ..People and news media that pull this garbage during elections need to be forced to prove it in court and if they cant then charged with a federal felony of subverting a presidential election ..and if its not a law it dammed well ought to be
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I'm reluctantly voting for Trump, but this is a post I'd hope every NeverTrumper on this site would read and take to heart. It is entirely possible to not support Trump without becoming an unwitting tool of the left. Unfortunately, I think far too many people have fallen into that trap.
The unwitting (or witting, if that's a word) tools of the left are the primary voters who foisted a leftist like Trump on us and took away the shred of conservatism remaining in the Republican party.
The trap was set by Trump, and the people who fell for him are culpable in the disaster about to hit us in November.
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I'm reluctantly voting for Trump, but this is a post I'd hope every NeverTrumper on this site would read and take to heart. It is entirely possible to not support Trump without becoming an unwitting tool of the left. Unfortunately, I think far too many people have fallen into that trap.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Bill, you and I think alike. The differences I am a never Trumper whereas you're a reluctant Trumper. And that's fine. I'm not going to impugn somebody who chooses to vote for Donald Trump
But I do want to base my opposition to Donald Trump more on rational facts that we do know for sure about and less on emotion. So maybe, to quote REO Speedwagon, it might be "Time for me to fly" lol. A lot of this is becoming beating a dead horse anyways
Or at least until after the election or if something really interesting pops up that I want to respond to
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Bill, you and I think alike. The differences I am a never Trumper whereas you're a reluctant Trumper. And that's fine. I'm not going to impugn somebody who chooses to vote for Donald Trump
But I do want to base my opposition to Donald Trump more on rational facts that we do know for sure about and less on emotion. So maybe, to quote REO Speedwagon, it might be "Time for me to fly" lol. A lot of this is becoming beating a dead horse anyways
Or at least until after the election or if something really interesting pops up that I want to respond to
Can't blame you -- I am rapidly reaching the same conclusion. Again, for me, it's not as much about whether or not people are going to vote for Trump. It's the ability to see the larger issues, hit the truly important arguments, etc.. Heck, my best friend supports Bernie, and yet we can still have positive discussions. But this is feeling more like just a gigantic food fight.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Bill, you and I think alike. The differences I am a never Trumper whereas you're a reluctant Trumper. And that's fine. I'm not going to impugn somebody who chooses to vote for Donald Trump
But I do want to base my opposition to Donald Trump more on rational facts that we do know for sure about and less on emotion. So maybe, to quote REO Speedwagon, it might be "Time for me to fly" lol. A lot of this is becoming beating a dead horse anyways
Or at least until after the election or if something really interesting pops up that I want to respond to
Every person here who opposes Trump does so on rational facts. EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
This sex scandal garbage is just icing on the slime cake. Trump is FACTUALLY a reprobate. He is FACTUALLY a liberal. He is FACTUALLY a degrader of women. He is FACTUALLY a liar.
Everything I oppose about Trump is based on facts.
And that goes for everyone else here too.
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The unwitting (or witting, if that's a word) tools of the left are the primary voters....
The primary votes were cast and counted months ago, and I am not one who voted for Trump.
But almost the entire discussion about this election, and the issues facing this country, has turned into nothing more than finger pointing and "I told you so's". There is virtually no discussion of larger issues, and both side are willing to throw whatever crummy arguments are convenient at the other as long as it helps/hurts Trump, without regard to what it means to the agenda and tactics of the left.
I think it's time for me to take a break.
ETA:
Every person here who opposes Trump does so on rational facts.
I thought my post to @LMAO made this clear, but apparently not. It is not the fact of opposition to Trump that is the issue. As I stated in my post to him, and have stated elsewhere, I think there are perfect valid reasons to not support him.
So as not to offend anyone, I'll just refrain from saying anything more, and just take my leave.
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The primary votes were cast and counted months ago, and I am not one who voted for Trump.
But almost the entire discussion about this election, and the issues facing this country, has turned into nothing more than finger pointing and "I told you so's". There is virtually no discussion of larger issues, and both side are willing to throw whatever crummy arguments are convenient at the other as long as it helps/hurts Trump, without regard to what it means to the agenda and tactics of the left.
I think it's time for me to take a break.
This election has done nothing to change my opinion that this country is on its' last legs.
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I would feel honored to be on that list.
Don't worry about some of these posters, they are the pets of the forum and just in my opinion, are free to get away with dragging folks names' through the mud with impunity. Shouldn't be that way, but there are always favorites everywhere.
As far as Clinton vs. Trump,
Clinton bankrolled by Saudi Arabia who may well be tied into ISIS who has many fathers, this says it all, should the shallow arguments of some be to accuse others of not being conservatives.
The same kind gave us Obama and more liberalism by railing against Romney.
They look for a Conservative ideal and voila; Reagan signed abortion into law, Goldwater was pro-abortion,
Cruz really doesn't have the leadership experience of a Walker, Perry or Pence; nor the accomplishments but this is what these folks hang their hats on.
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Don't worry about some of these posters, they are the pets of the forum and just in my opinion, are free to get away with dragging folks names' through the mud with impunity.
You dragged your own names through the mud with gameplaying between TOS and here, lying daily about Hillary support here and a few dozen other demonstrably liberal actions.
You're just mad that it gets pointed out and there's no Jim Robinson to ban your opponents.
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Never Romney, Never Trump,
Obama/Clinton thank one for their support.
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This really is just never-Trumps or abandon the nominee being as nasty as can be and half of 'em don't have proven credentials to call themselves conservatives, if Romney were elected we might not have ISIS nor other problems in foreign policy, truth be damned, I only give a dang about my own self.
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This really is just never-Trumps or abandon the nominee being as nasty as can be and half of 'em don't have proven credentials to call themselves conservatives, if Romney were elected we might not have ISIS nor other problems in foreign policy, truth be damned, I only give a dang about my own self.
Romney, the abortion profiteer isn't conservative
Romney the gun grabber isn't conservative
Romney the father of Gay marriage in America isn't conservative
Romney the namesake of Romneycare isn't a conservative.
Romney voters making excuses for him after he threw the election arent conservatives.
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The primary votes were cast and counted months ago, and I am not one who voted for Trump.
But almost the entire discussion about this election, and the issues facing this country, has turned into nothing more than finger pointing and "I told you so's". There is virtually no discussion of larger issues, and both side are willing to throw whatever crummy arguments are convenient at the other as long as it helps/hurts Trump, without regard to what it means to the agenda and tactics of the left.
I think it's time for me to take a break.
ETA:
I thought my post to @LMAO made this clear, but apparently not. It is not the fact of opposition to Trump that is the issue. As I stated in my post to him, and have stated elsewhere, I think there are perfect valid reasons to not support him.
So as not to offend anyone, I'll just refrain from saying anything more, and just take my leave.
I enjoy the intelligence and logic of your posts. I don't agree with everything you say, but there is always reason behind your views, and I greatly respect that.
I hope you don't take too much time away.
Your voice is much appreciated.
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I think Donald trump said he gropes women. I know he did as it is on tape. So If according to Trump supporters we have to believe he will nominate Conservative judges, then we ALSO have to believe he is a serial sexual abuser because he said it. Because we cannot pick and choose.
Now that puts the onus on you. Will you say here publicly that we should approve of sexual abuse against women by electing a man that admits to it on tape? Will you admit you want women thrown to the dogs to get your judges?
No, that puts the anus on you as there is no purity in politics.
Did you vote for Reagan? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?
Did you vote for Dubya? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?
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I enjoy the intelligence and logic of your posts. I don't agree with everything you say, but there is always reason behind your views, and I greatly respect that.
I hope you don't take too much time away.
Your voice is much appreciated.
Don't get too sentimental, he's the third Trump apologist today that said that. Seems pretty coordinated.
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No, that puts the anus on you as there is no purity in politics.
The Anus?
(you must be a P1)
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No, that puts the anus on you as there is no purity in politics.
Did you vote for Reagan? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?
Did you vote for Dubya? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?
Ckearly you have lived far too vicariously to Orange Glorious.
If you wish to put the 'anus' on someone, may I suggest the Castro district rather than a conservative website?
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but my ass has a tattoo of Gandalf saying "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" so I don't swing that way.
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The Anus?
(you must be a P1)
No. He's just vulgar like the guy he's praising all over this forum.
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No. He's just vulgar like the guy he's praising all over this forum.
He seemed to be hitting on me. Can't blame him really. I am a ruggedly handsome beast afterall.
I imagine Trumps sex assault behavior has rapidly emboldened his followers.
@CatherineofAragon
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Don't worry about some of these posters, they are the pets of the forum and just in my opinion, are free to get away with dragging folks names' through the mud with impunity. Shouldn't be that way, but there are always favorites everywhere.
As far as Clinton vs. Trump,
Clinton bankrolled by Saudi Arabia who may well be tied into ISIS who has many fathers, this says it all, should the shallow arguments of some be to accuse others of not being conservatives.
The same kind gave us Obama and more liberalism by railing against Romney.
They look for a Conservative ideal and voila; Reagan signed abortion into law, Goldwater was pro-abortion,
Cruz really doesn't have the leadership experience of a Walker, Perry or Pence; nor the accomplishments but this is what these folks hang their hats on.
I don't worry about these posters. At FR I am 'decimon' and anyone is free to check my history. I haven't posted there in years and for years before that I avoided arguments with squirrel brains.
I don't much care for or about Trump and that seems to be true for most other people who will nonetheless vote for him.
Why?
Because a Hillary presidency may be the point of no return. The abyss.
If Trump was replaced by another of the former candidates then I would vote for that person.
Why?
Hillary.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls_lFwr25k
The whole tape is available at CBS. You are reluctantly supporting a sick pervert. There is also a tape where he talks about going into the dressing rooms of the Beauty Pageants including the Miss Teen ones. Talk about sick.
Thats it ? thats all this about ? and people are ******* stupid enough to say this makes a pedophile ? thats really graping at straws
Trump needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander and get the FCC close them down and take their dammed TV franchise if he wins
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Gee - I'm not sure who to believe here...
The media and the victims who says Trump likes to grab them in the pu$$y, or Trump who says he likes to grab them in the pu$$y...
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls_lFwr25k
The whole tape is available at CBS. You are reluctantly supporting a sick pervert. There is also a tape where he talks about going into the dressing rooms of the Beauty Pageants including the Miss Teen ones. Talk about sick.
There is also the Howard Stern tape where Trump talks about the then 12-year-old Paris Hilton.
Then there is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE4hKIP4n0
Seriously, what sort of father talks about his 1-year-old daughter in that way - speculating on how big her breasts will get when she grows up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80
And yes, every father says that the thing he has most in common with his daughter is sex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpOZVN4_Ihc
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Gee - I'm not sure who to believe here...
The media and the victims who says Trump likes to grab them in the pu$$y, or Trump who says he likes to grab them in the pu$$y...
You have to believe trump when he says 'wall' or 'judges' but not when he admits grabbing women by the pxxxy.
Its a subtle line to walk, sure, but his sycophants are rather adept at it...
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He seemed to be hitting on me. Can't blame him really. I am a ruggedly handsome beast afterall.
I imagine Trumps sex assault behavior has rapidly emboldened his followers.
@CatherineofAragon
Protect yourself, Norm. :dx1:
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You have to believe trump when he says 'wall' or 'judges' but not when he admits grabbing women by the pxxxy.
Its a subtle line to walk, sure, but his sycophants are rather adept at it...
You know what - I'm going to take a leap and believe Trump on this one! He likes to grab them in the pu$$y!
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Protect yourself, Norm. :dx1:
Well it's confusing. As a male I lack the body part Trump grabs so freely and his supporters think is acceptable for him doing.
On the other hand, Trump has Milo and the Alt Right and they are known homosexuals/filled with known homosexuals pushing the gay agenda.
May Gandalf succeed in keeping me inviolate!
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Thats it ? thats all this about ? and people are ******* stupid enough to say this makes a pedophile ? thats really graping at straws
Trump needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander and get the FCC close them down and take their dammed TV franchise if he wins
Is graping at straws any different that graping at women's private parts?
Just curious.....
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You know what - I'm going to take a leap and believe Trump on this one! He likes to grab them in the pu$$y!
I do. And it's confusing because the people that told me I had to believe Trump are mad at me for believing Trump.
Oh well. They are crazy people anyway. I'll just believe Trump when he says he's a sexual abuser and not when he clearly lies about most other things. Who says I'm a purist that can't compromise?
Gonna send them to this post when they say it too!
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Well it's confusing. As a male I lack the body part Trump grabs so freely and his supporters think is acceptable for him doing.
On the other hand, Trump has Milo and the Alt Right and they are known homosexuals/filled with known homosexuals pushing the gay agenda.
May Gandalf succeed in keeping me inviolate!
He's good at that....
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/07/90/73/079073ef0a7c9613b583656f670b0763.jpg)
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If the echo of truth offends you...you might be a liberal (Apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)
Be honest with us DD. You are going to excuse anything Trump does, arent you? Your statements show you don't give a rats ass about honesty when it comes to Trump, don't they? You want what you want and nothing is going to change that.
Just admit it and leave us to our echo chamber. Because you have lost all the respect most here had for you. There is no point in sticking around. Stop complaining about it and remove yourself from the situation. It couldn't be easier. But you won't do that will you. Nope. So spare us your wisdom.
You're an imbecile. I've never excused anything he's done. I've been very critical of him.
But thanks for making my point. Anything that isn't critical of him results in ridiculous comments like yours.
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You're an imbecile. I've never excused anything he's done. I've been very critical of him.
But thanks for making my point. Anything that isn't critical of him results in ridiculous comments like yours.
An imbecile claims to be conservative while voting for a guy like Trump. Don't like the truth? Oh freaking well.
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Thats it ? thats all this about ? and people are ******* stupid enough to say this makes a pedophile ? thats really graping at straws
Trump needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander and get the FCC close them down and take their dammed TV franchise if he wins
So you don’t think that a then 46-year-old man looking at a 10-year-old girl and saying “I’m going to be dating you in ten years” isn’t creepy?
I don’t have any kids myself but I have many great nieces, one who is about that girl’s age and I can tell you that if some man said to my 9-year-old great niece, “I’m going to be dating you in ten years”, he’d get my knee to his crotch, that is if her dad or mom didn’t get to him first.
While Trump thinks he can, wants to “loosen the liable laws” as to allow him to sue any media outlet that says anything negative about him, even if true, I don’t know what is more frightening - Trump wanting to subvert the 1st A or his fans that are just fine with that.
Yes, by all means, let Trump use the FCC to shut down all dissent.
All Hail Our Glorious Leader!
**nononono*
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Getting back to the gist of this “story” by Hoft (someone with little to no credibility IMO) is that the woman is lying because the phrase, “he was like an octopus, hands all over the place” was used in a Velvet Underground song.
For one thing, I’m pretty up on a lot of music including VU but I’ve never heard that song before, it is not a particularly well known VU song. It certainly wasn’t a song played on any mainstream radio stations unlike say Walk On The Wild Side.
Lou Reed didn’t invent the phrase and yes, I’ve heard it used before, before that song even came out, to describe a guy who suddenly starts groping and seems to have more hands than an octopus has tentacles and various iterations of the same.
Hoft uses as a “source” a tweet by Mike Cernovich. Cernovich FWIW is a creepy guy who doesn’t believe that “date rape” exists and gives men advice on how to beat rape charges – both date rape and “rape-rape”.
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Here is where you know the article is just making it up...
The truth is, through his career, he has been plagued by these accusations, constantly. He even talks about it in many interviews. They are trying to whitewash their Orange messiah and now they are really stretching it, accusing this of a hoax because it sounded similar to song lyrics.....well good golly ms Molly.
Throughout his entire life Trump has been plagued with less than desirable behavior and through Hillary's entire career she's been plagued with less than desirable actions and decisions.
Other than massive corruption I'm still trying to digest how as a country we actually nominated these two!
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Throughout his entire life Trump has been plagued with less than desirable behavior and through Hillary's entire career she's been plagued with less than desirable actions and decisions.
Other than massive corruption I'm still trying to digest how as a country we actually nominated these two!
Incrementalism.
2012 - "We have to vote for Mitt Romney even though he created Romenycare, legalized homo marriage and profits directly from his own abortion laws even if more kids die with him nationalizing his profits"
2016 - "Well We voted for a babykiller and did it in the name of Christianity and conservatism so Trump isn't so bad really..."
There you go.
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a crass comment and a few sound (18 seconds !) bites Thats all you have
While Trump thinks he can, wants to “loosen the liable laws” as to allow him to sue any media outlet that says anything negative about him, even if true, I don’t know what is more frightening - Trump wanting to subvert the 1st A or his fans that are just fine with that.
Yes, by all means, let Trump use the FCC to shut down all dissent.
the Liable laws should be loosened and
and the reporters at CBS need their fing teeth kicked in
this is subverting a presidential election with edited tapes, hearsay and vile nasty overreaching allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media
have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting a presidential election by slander and libel is a dammed good reason
if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt I hope they stand the democrats a** licking puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards
and i'm out of here ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots camp out here and fling ****..its like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
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a crass comment and a few sound (18 seconds !) bites Thats all you have the Liable laws should be loosened and
and the reporters at CBS need their fing teeth kicked in
this is subverting a presidential election with edited tapes, hearsay and vile nasty overreaching allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media
have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting a presidential election by slander and libel is a dammed good reason
if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt I hope they stand the democrats a** licking puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards
and i'm out of here ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots camp out here and fling ****..its like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
You are the fourth today. Someone tell me with a straight face this isn't planned.
Jokes on you though. Most of us don't care and won't miss you.
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a crass comment and a few sound (18 seconds !) bites Thats all you have the Liable laws should be loosened and
and the reporters at CBS need their fing teeth kicked in
this is subverting a presidential election with edited tapes, hearsay and vile nasty overreaching allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media
have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting a presidential election by slander and libel is a dammed good reason
if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt I hope they stand the democrats a** licking puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards
and i'm out of here ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots camp out here and fling ****..its like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
THIS ^^ is what you call a "meaningful conversation??"
btw, calling principled conservatives "Hillery bots" is a straight out lie.
You Trump lovers really need to stop making that ludicrous accusation, when YOU are the ones supporting a LIBERAL, and we're not.
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THIS ^^ is what you call a "meaningful conversation??"
btw, calling principled conservatives "Hillery bots" is a straight out lie.
You Trump lovers really need to stop making that ludicrous accusation, when YOU are the ones supporting a LIBERAL, and we're not.
No, it's gaslighting. They are claiming to quit back to back to give the impression that it's a trend. Again, standard liberal tactic. Too bad for them there are about 10 of them total.
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GatewayPundit is one of the most unreliable websites out there.
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The Anus?
(you must be a P1)
O/T, although The Ticket manages to retain their ratings, their daily offerings consist of middle aged men acting like they're still mid-20 YO bachelors. It's puzzling to me how they all mock Trump, a kindred spirit of theirs.
They're useful to me on my drive home, while the other stations I frequent are on commercial break.
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No, it's gaslighting. They are claiming to quit back to back to give the impression that it's a trend. Again, standard liberal tactic. Too bad for them there are about 10 of them total.
True enough.......... and it's not like the 10 of them actually add "meaningful conversation" around here.....
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O/T, although The Ticket manages to retain their ratings, their daily offerings consist of middle aged men acting like they're still mid-20 YO bachelors. It's puzzling to me how they all mock Trump, a kindred spirit of theirs.
They're useful to me on my drive home, while the other stations I frequent are on commercial break.
Gordo's imitation of Trump is dead-on, though.
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True enough.......... and it's not like the 10 of them actually add "meaningful conversation" around here.....
Their BS is the source of most of the arguing and ill will here. The level of discourse will improve in direct proportion to their absence. Guaranteed.
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Thank God the Gateway Pundit was here to set the story straight. I expect all the rat media to drop this story immediately.
@Once-Ler
I admire your sarcasm ability. You are MUCH smoother and subtle than I am.
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Absolute pure lies. Jill Harth accused Trump of sexually assaulting her 20 years ago. And he settled the lawsuit in which those accusations were made. Trump never settles a suit unless there is some truth to it. I'll leave it to the intelligent amongst us to draw the obvious conclusion.
@Oceander
EVERYBODY that has law firms on retainer settles law suits EVERY time they can settle one cheaper than they can win by fighting it in court.
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THIS ^^ is what you call a "meaningful conversation??"
btw, calling principled conservatives "Hillery bots" is a straight out lie.
You Trump lovers really need to stop making that ludicrous accusation, when YOU are the ones supporting a LIBERAL, and we're not.
principled conservatives don't fling around accusations of somebody being a pedophile due to a 18 second tape
principled conservatives know that the vile little vermin in the MSM lie and slander opposition candidates for the democratic party they did for Bill Clinton ,Obama and Hillery
and using a 18 second tape to accuse anybody of being a child molester is beyond the pale
lets see the whole tape and see what the context was, and who trump was talking too off camera
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Go Trump! (no sarcasm). Trump just finished a rally where he swatted these media/Hillary/DNC lies like the insignificant gnats they are. And he did so with facts, logic and common sense. It was awesome.
Hit it out of the park.
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principled conservatives don't fling around accusations of somebody being a pedophile due to a 18 second tape
principled conservatives know that the vile little vermin in the MSM lie and slander opposition candidates for the democratic party they did for Bill Clinton ,Obama and Hillery
and using a 18 second tape to accuse anybody of being a child molester is beyond the pale
lets see the whole tape and see what the context was, and who trump was talking too off camera
See? Trump supporters can't be trusted. You didn't leave afterall.
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Go Trump! (no sarcasm). Trump just finished a rally where he swatted these media/Hillary/DNC lies like the insignificant gnats they are. And he did so with facts, logic and common sense. It was awesome.
Hit it out of the park.
Still not really seeing how you can look at yourself in the mirror knowing you support an admitted sexual predator.
**nononono*
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Still not really seeing how you can look at yourself in the mirror knowing you support an admitted sexual predator.
**nononono*
Some people like to think of it as 'surprise sex'. Personally I am coming to believe they want him elected so they too can partake in Trump's behaviors. Based on their excuses for empowering a self admitted sex abuser, I stand by my belief they are a danger to everyone around them.
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Some people like to think of it as 'surprise sex'. Personally I am coming to believe they want him elected so they too can partake in Trump's behaviors. Based on their excuses for empowering a self admitted sex abuser, I stand by my belief they are a danger to everyone around them.
If a soldier had bragged about 1/10th of what Trump is so proud of...he or she would have been tossed in the DB at Ft. Leavenworth for 10 years.
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Still not really seeing how you can look at yourself in the mirror knowing you support an admitted sexual predator.
**nononono*
Please limit your criticism to the candidate, and off of me. Thank you.
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Please limit your criticism to the candidate, and off of me. Thank you.
Remind yourself of that statement before you call us Hillary supporters. Thank you.
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Please limit your criticism to the candidate, and off of me. Thank you.
You first.
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If a soldier had bragged about 1/10th of what Trump is so proud of...he or she would have been tossed in the DB at Ft. Leavenworth for 10 years.
They are just soldiers. You know. Little, meaningless people. Not Orange Glorious, he who is both man and divine!
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Go Trump! (no sarcasm). Trump just finished a rally where he swatted these media/Hillary/DNC lies like the insignificant gnats they are. And he did so with facts, logic and common sense. It was awesome.
Hit it out of the park.
I'm not a Trump fan (as you know) but the Clinton/DEM/media machine is bordering on ridiculessness. I think we need to get back on focusing on Hillary's emails, ties with Russia, filtering money through the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, ISIS, her dream for open borders for the entire western hemisphere, etc.
I'm tired of St. Hillary getting a pass for everything.
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I'm not a Trump fan (as you know) but the Clinton/DEM/media machine is bordering on ridiculessness. I think we need to get back on focusing on Hillary's emails, ties with Russia, filtering money through the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, ISIS, her dream for open borders for the entire western hemisphere, etc.
I'm tired of St. Hillary getting a pass for everything.
We all are (well most of us) but the only hope for the media to hold the bitch accountable is no hope at all. Ever.
The ONLY chance the right had to ever hold her accountable was by electing actual conservatives who would hold legitimate hearings and file legitimate charges. Instead we got Gowdy's dog and pony show. Because people just had to have lesser evils that could WIN!
Well, thats what people 'won'. So we can all enjoy the fruits of their rampant stupidity.
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I'm not a Trump fan (as you know) but the Clinton/DEM/media machine is bordering on ridiculessness. I think we need to get back on focusing on Hillary's emails, ties with Russia, filtering money through the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, ISIS, her dream for open borders for the entire western hemisphere, etc.
I'm tired of St. Hillary getting a pass for everything.
That's what I'm saying. At this point the best possible outcome is for both to take each other down. We should encourage Trump in this, even if he loses all 50 states.
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I'm not a Trump fan (as you know) but the Clinton/DEM/media machine is bordering on ridiculessness. I think we need to get back on focusing on Hillary's emails, ties with Russia, filtering money through the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, ISIS, her dream for open borders for the entire western hemisphere, etc.
I'm tired of St. Hillary getting a pass for everything.
The Orange Ass Clown has all the ammo he needs. He needs to keep sliming Bill with his sexual history, while mentioning Hillary's attacking his victims, plus all the other nasty things she's said on tape.
Sometimes you win in politics by battling to a stalemate on an issue.
Then he needs to open up on all those fronts you mentioned. Drip and escalate every day, while negating the media by pointing all these things out and why aren't they focusing on them too?
He then needs to do the tie ins, such as with Catholics, and blue collar Dems.
If it was me, the piece de resistance would be to focus on the Clinton foundation and Hillary's foreign support, then run the last few seconds of LBJ's Daisy ad where the nuke goes off, and imply that Hillary will sell this country down river including getting nuked to pad her pockets.
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That's what I'm saying. At this point the best possible outcome is for both to take each other down. We should encourage Trump in this, even if he loses all 50 states.
He's doing a good enough job of that without any of us.
I mean one month to go and he's abandoned Virginia...seriously?
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Please limit your criticism to the candidate, and off of me. Thank you.
:bigsilly:
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Remind yourself of that statement before you call us Hillary supporters. Thank you.
He can sure dish it out, ja.
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@Oceander
EVERYBODY that has law firms on retainer settles law suits EVERY time they can settle one cheaper than they can win by fighting it in court.
No, they don't always do that. Individuals, in particular, are more likely to fight for what they perceive as principle than are businesses. I know this for a fact.
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That's a pipe dream not based in reality. Trump is a narcissist. Assuming he has "patriotic intentions" is just wishful thinking, not based in any understanding of who he is.
As for the "personal feeling" vs. "altruistic patriotism"........ Poppycock.
Allegiance to a higher law, decency, integrity, and truth Have nothing to do with "feelings."
Supporting a corrupt, leftist reprobate knowing how dangerous he is, is purely based on feelings.
There is no patriotism in voting for an evil leftist like Trump. NONE.
You can poppycock all you like, it still does not counter b]"one either votes for tRump or effectively votes for hitlery. That is the choice, like it or not."[/b]
When POTUS hitlery comes down on us "non-worshipers" with bans of 1st and 2nd Amendments, there will be many nevertrumpers who will suddenly disappear from postings here out of shame for bring her upon our dear America.
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He can sure dish it out, ja.
He tries. He just sucks at it.
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You can poppycock all you like, it still does not counter b]"one either votes for tRump or effectively votes for hitlery. That is the choice, like it or not."[/b]
When POTUS hitlery comes down on us "non-worshipers" with bans of 1st and 2nd Amendments, there will be many nevertrumpers who will suddenly disappear from postings here out of shame for bring her upon our dear America.
Trump supporters would never know one way or the other. Because they will be the first on the list of useful idiots the left, as history repeatedly shows, receive the not so tender mercies. Zealots are always the first a dictator puts down.
We tried to warn you. Vote for a conservative and you'd not be in this mess. Nor would conservatives. But of course, you know better.
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You can poppycock all you like, it still does not counter b]"one either votes for tRump or effectively votes for hitlery. That is the choice, like it or not."[/b]
When POTUS hitlery comes down on us "non-worshipers" with bans of 1st and 2nd Amendments, there will be many nevertrumpers who will suddenly disappear from postings here out of shame for bring her upon our dear America.
Funny you mention those two things.
“One of the things I’m gonna do, and this is only gonna make it tougher for me, and I’ve never said this before, but one of the things I’m gonna do if I win… is I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We’re gonna open up those libel laws.
“With me, they’re not protected, because I’m not like other people…We’re gonna open up those libel laws, folks, and we’re gonna have people sue you like you never get sued before.”
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html
At last night’s presidential debate Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton made all kinds of attacks on each other. But on one notable issue, they were in complete agreement: they both think people on the federal government’s “no fly list” should be categorically denied their right to buy guns under the Second Amendment. Both candidates have repeatedly said so for months. Trump’s stance on this issue should be deeply troubling to those who care about gun rights – and also to people concerned about constitutional rights generally, even if they don’t care much about this one.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/09/27/trump-and-the-second-amendment/?utm_term=.322bd21f5835
Now...you were saying?
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Funny you mention those two things.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/09/27/trump-and-the-second-amendment/?utm_term=.322bd21f5835
Now...you were saying?
@txradioguy
Stop bringing facts into the conversation!
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Funny you mention those two things.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html
Now...you were saying?
I don't doubt the first quote because I'd heard it before, but I just wanted to nitpick your source. Politicus? When I'm running down facts I always blow past that one. They are as reliable as Snopes.
But, as I said, this one is correct.
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Thats exactly where it came .Things like due processes,presumption of innocence, and healthy skepticism, are completely lost on the never trumps
Herman Cain ring a bell ? The Democratic party has been tossing around these kind of accusations at opposing candidates for years along with the lapdogs in the MSM
The rules about this kind of crap need to be either prove it a court of law or STFU
Their so consumed with their irrational foaming hate for trump that they willing to put a murderous corrupt hag in the White house
Gotta agree with you there. What Trump said in the interview way back in 2005 is damning enough, but until the court case works it's way out we ought to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not that'd I'd be surprised mind you.
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You are the fourth today. Someone tell me with a straight face this isn't planned.
Jokes on you though. Most of us don't care and won't miss you.
(http://memequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/train.jpg)
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and i'm out of here ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots camp out here and fling ****..its like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
@Charlespg ,
TBR believes in the freedom to speak your opinion, and that applies to all. I am terribly sorry if that offends you. Well, I lied. I'm not sorry.
The remedy for speech you don't like is more speech, not less.
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and i'm out of here ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots camp out here and fling ****..its like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
(http://lefthandbrewing.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/well-bye.jpg)
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This is the best lawyer letter ever:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuqs1CFW8AAwWgb.jpg)
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(http://lefthandbrewing.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/well-bye.jpg)
As you might expect, those of us who have spent a lot of time on the FR Refugee Welcome thread don't find that concept amusing....
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As you might expect, those of us who have spent a lot of time on the FR Refugee Welcome thread don't find that concept amusing....
Yeah, but he left of his own accord...
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Yeah, but he left of his own accord...
Good point. But did he leave? I haven't checked his posting history since that comment.
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Good point. But did he leave? I haven't checked his posting history since that comment.
Nope.
Actually IMO, the "Well, Bye" thing is apropo because he is apparently one that resents us ex Freepers being here. Let him choke on his own bile.
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Nope.
Actually IMO, the "Well, Bye" thing is apropo because he is apparently one that resents us ex Freepers being here. Let him choke on his own bile.
Another good point. Dang!
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Another good point. Dang!
In times such as these, we should look to the great philosopher Patrick Swayze who said "Be nice. Until it's time to not be nice."
It is long past time we 'not be nice' with people ensuring the destruction of our country.
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I don't doubt the first quote because I'd heard it before, but I just wanted to nitpick your source. Politicus? When I'm running down facts I always blow past that one. They are as reliable as Snopes.
But, as I said, this one is correct.
I understand. And I agree. My only defense is that I was in a hurry and I knew the quote was valid from other sources.
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Another good point. Dang!
You can always use the kinder gentler version.
buh bye
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Well there's also the original Viking kitty video but Youtube canned the audio. However this makes a good substitute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0Nuh2xZnA
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(http://lefthandbrewing.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/well-bye.jpg)
Just a minor note:
I dislike this picture and the accompanying sentiment behind it intensely.
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Or there's this.
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How about this?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ZV1V8pbfQ6g1i/giphy.gif)
This one please.
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Just a minor note:
I dislike this picture and the accompanying sentiment behind it intensely.
Duly noted.
Could have been worse. I could have told him not to let the door hit him in the (bleep) on the way out. :whistle:
But in all seriousness I only posted that pic because of the Opus that preceded my post.
It's the only time I ever use that pic.
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It's OK. No harm, no foul.
It's just a personal preference, with a reason behind it:
There is, obviously, a lot of FR history people share, much of it harmless or good. But the Viking Kitties and dancing on the graves of the departed isn't something we really want to import, and that image, at the very least, is totally associated in many members minds with zot threads.
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This one does not fit as well, but it's funny.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/F2LiEi5wxmMM0/giphy.gif)
This one:
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I'm not a Trump fan (as you know) but the Clinton/DEM/media machine is bordering on ridiculessness. I think we need to get back on focusing on Hillary's emails, ties with Russia, filtering money through the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi, ISIS, her dream for open borders for the entire western hemisphere, etc.
I'm tired of St. Hillary getting a pass for everything.
@libertybele
:amen: :amen: :amen:
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Then he needs to open up on all those fronts you mentioned. Drip and escalate every day, while negating the media by pointing all these things out and why aren't they focusing on them too?
He then needs to do the tie ins, such as with Catholics, and blue collar Dems.
If it was me, the piece de resistance would be to focus on the Clinton foundation and Hillary's foreign support, then run the last few seconds of LBJ's Daisy ad where the nuke goes off, and imply that Hillary will sell this country down river including getting nuked to pad her pockets.
@Free Vulcan
He should also keep mentioning that the public needs to know how Bubbette! Jr,with nothing more than a BS in history,managed to have a net worth of over 10 MILLION dollars despite having no experience at all of EVER doing anything other than being the offsprung of Bubba and Bubbette!. There IS a story there if anyone is bold enough to dig it up and report it.
I think such a report ought to be started out by listing every class mate she had with the same major that graduated from the same school on the same day she did,and compare all their net worth's.
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No, they don't always do that. Individuals, in particular, are more likely to fight for what they perceive as principle than are businesses. I know this for a fact.
@Oceander
Then you are not following the advise of the lawyers you pay to tell you what to do in legal situations.
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It's OK. No harm, no foul.
It's just a personal preference, with a reason behind it:
There is, obviously, a lot of FR history people share, much of it harmless or good. But the Viking Kitties and dancing on the graves of the departed isn't something we really want to import, and that image, at the very least, is totally associated in many members minds with zot threads.
Does this mean we can't put their heads on pikes as they leave? Rats!
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Does this mean we can't put their heads on pikes as they leave? Rats!
No no we do things differently we slap them with a fish on the way out and let them keep it. You could say we put a pike on their head.
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@Once-Ler
I admire your sarcasm ability. You are MUCH smoother and subtle than I am.
It is your blunt and aggressive, straight from the hip, "I ain't taking that bullsquat" commentary I admire about you sir. I even sometimes find myself pitying the recipients of your written assaults.
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The first three posters on this thread are Trump lovers.
What "echo chamber" are you talking about, @driftdiver ??
If this forum were as bad as you guys whine that it is, you would be gone, wouldn't you?? Banned, and all that?
I just don't get why the accusation keeps being thrown out that this is an "echo chamber" when even a modicum of observation skills would show you that it's not.
What's the point of making a criticism that is clearly false?
@musiclady
The echo chamber that you are a cheerleader for. The echo chamber that any dissent is met with insult and personal attacks. Things like "he's a slow learner" and so on.
But you knew that
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@musiclady
The echo chamber that you are a cheerleader for. The echo chamber that any dissent is met with insult and personal attacks. Things like "he's a slow learner" and so on.
But you knew that
So I assume you're take the Trump supporters to task as well when they star with their special brand of lies and insults?
I sure hope you will be consistent.
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@musiclady
The echo chamber that you are a cheerleader for. The echo chamber that any dissent is met with insult and personal attacks. Things like "he's a slow learner" and so on.
But you knew that
I'm sorry I used the word slow to describe the fact that you didn't seem to understand what was being said, and didn't realize that you would still be angry and hurt days afterwards.
I will avoid replying to anything you post in the future.
That said, to call this an echo chamber is a false accusation and an insult to mystery and the mods and you should likewise avoid making that bogus accusation in the future.
Thanks.
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It is your blunt and aggressive, straight from the hip, "I ain't taking that bullsquat" commentary I admire about you sir. I even sometimes find myself pitying the recipients of your written assaults.
@Once-Ler
Most of the time I do not intend my posts to be assaults. I am just a straight-forward person that writes what I think.