Lol ..."Grappled with the prospects" that Cruz might be the best hope to stop Trump. Nothing like finally waking up...but wait...the GOPe hates Cruz! :silly:
Cruz 2016! Reigniting the Promise of America!!! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
AP: Republican Leaders Starting to See Ted Cruz as Best Anti-Trump Alternative
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What the GOPe 'leaders' DON'T see is that Ted Cruz does not reverberate in popularity like Donald Trump does with the swing voters who are teetering between Hillary and Trump, but in no way would vote for Ted Cruz's brand of ideology.
The progressive Republicans have eroded moral Conservatives within the Republican Party to the point that the moral Conservatives are the underwhelming MINORITY withing their OWN party, and an insignificant force to NOT be reckoned with at the end of the day.
Once again, the GOPe is about to screw the pooch, the horse, and The Elephant.
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What the GOPe 'leaders' DON'T see is that Ted Cruz does not reverberate in popularity like Donald Trump does with the swing voters who are teetering between Hillary and Trump, but in no way would vote for Ted Cruz's brand of ideology.
The progressive Republicans have eroded moral Conservatives within the Republican Party to the point that the moral Conservatives are the underwhelming MINORITY withing their OWN party, and an insignificant force to NOT be reckoned with at the end of the day.
Once again, the GOPe is about to screw the pooch, the horse, and The Elephant.
Lol ..."Grappled with the prospects" that Cruz might be the best hope to stop Trump. Nothing like finally waking up...but wait...the GOPe hates Cruz! :silly:
Cruz 2016! Reigniting the Promise of America!!! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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What the GOPe 'leaders' DON'T see is that Ted Cruz does not reverberate in popularity like Donald Trump does with the swing voters who are teetering between Hillary and Trump, but in no way would vote for Ted Cruz's brand of ideology.
The progressive Republicans have eroded moral Conservatives within the Republican Party to the point that the moral Conservatives are the underwhelming MINORITY withing their OWN party, and an insignificant force to NOT be reckoned with at the end of the day.
Once again, the GOPe is about to screw the pooch, the horse, and The Elephant.
IF indeed moral Conservatives were the underwhelming minority, Cruz wouldn't be in 2nd. IF it weren't for the GOP establishment candidates, data shows Cruz would be the front runner right now. Secondly, polls also indicate that Cruz can win over Hillary...something that 'The Donald' cannot claim.
Again - the polls show Trump losing consistently to Clinton in the general. The reason's as plain as the ears on the sides of your face (the ears you don't bother to listen with) - Trump's hated and distrusted even more than Clinton is. And that's one heck of an accomplishment.
By contrast, Cruz manages to best Clinton in most polls (although if the GOP really wants to nominate an electable conservative, the polls say hands down it should be John Kasich.)
Edit - I'd be curious if you could provide me with evidence of "swing voters teetering between Hillary and Trump". Most of Trump's "new" voters are whites folks afraid of brown folks - not exactly Hillary's natural constituency, even if many say they're historically Democrats. If Trump's not the nominee, most will, I'll bet, crawl back under their rocks and not bother to vote for any candidate.
Given the efforts being made here to quell the snark, your last sentence spoiled a good post.
Point taken, Lando. I'll edit my post.
Most of Trump's "new" voters are whites folks afraid of brown folks - not exactly Hillary's natural constituency, even.
IF indeed moral Conservatives were the underwhelming minority, Cruz wouldn't be in 2nd. IF it weren't for the GOP establishment candidates, data shows Cruz would be the front runner right now. Secondly, polls also indicate that Cruz can win over Hillary...something that 'The Donald' cannot claim.
Where would I find support that "white folks" are "afraid of brown folks?"
If it is your opinion, and applies to you, fine.
But claiming it pertains to others than you is ridiculous, and many take offense to such race baiting.
Still voting for Hillary, BTW?
Simply not true. Trump is not doing better than Cruz in a matchup with Hillary, so the claim that Trump is getting the swing voters is a myth.
Sure ignore the actual voter turns out numbers. Cling to the polls instead.
Next two weeks are the big test for Cruz. he is going to have to show some ability to win contested state Primaries convincingly rather then caucuses in small states or dark red states.
National elections are not won with just the choir. Cruz has yet to demonstrate an ability to win outside his choir loft.
Trump's rhetoric is intended to exploit white folks' fears about brown folks. That's what "race-baiting" is, btw, not my pointing out such race-baiting. Trump's certainly seems to be winning the support of white nationalists. If you don't like the company that Trump keeps, then let that influence your choice whether or not to support him.
No, but thank you for asking. I'm still voting for John Kasich.
The GOPe hates Cruz, but will embrace him because they THINK they can control him...
Trump's rhetoric is intended to exploit white folks' fears about brown folks. That's what "race-baiting" is, btw, not my pointing out such race-baiting. Trump's certainly seems to be winning the support of white nationalists. If you don't like the company that Trump keeps, then let that influence your choice whether or not to support him.
No, but thank you for asking. I'm still voting for John Kasich.
Sure ignore the actual voter turns out numbers. Cling to the polls instead.Prim
Next two weeks are the big test for Cruz. he is going to have to show some ability to win contested state Primaries convincingly rather then caucuses in small states or dark red states.
National elections are not won with just the choir. Cruz has yet to demonstrate an ability to win outside his choir loft.
Sure ignore the actual voter turns out numbers. Cling to the polls instead.
Next two weeks are the big test for Cruz. he is going to have to show some ability to win contested state Primaries convincingly rather then caucuses in small states or dark red states.
National elections are not won with just the choir. Cruz has yet to demonstrate an ability to win outside his choir loft.
Not true, Johnnie. Cruz's win in Maine, for instance, was not from among "evangelicals", however you tend to define that.
It was because of Maine's geographic location relative to Canada. :silly:
Oh, good. He should win Michigan easily then.
Well Michigan is closer to his birthplace! :silly:
Are you kidding? This is hysterical. All these people supporting the guy who was born outside the United States and who's not a natural born citizen.I think it is a huge set up. They are backing him knowing he will be taken out. they have said often they would do anything to keep Trump out and would support hillary. heck heard it last night from a donor class spokeshole on TV.
Hillary is laughing all the way back to the Oval Office.
they might be embracing him to take him out on his birth issue. then....give it to romney? rubio? hillary most likely.
Lert, if you have to explain your joke, it's not funny to start with.
It was hardly an "explanation". I would bet most people in the US or Canada would have no idea to what I was referring.Then others here knew exactly what it was about. Oh not a bit funny if you really think about it. They will take out Cruz for this. You can bet on it.
Then others here knew exactly what it was about. Oh not a bit funny if you really think about it. They will take out Cruz for this. You can bet on it.
Nope. Court after court has ruled otherwise.
Exactly. The ONLY reason that this has even been an issue is because Trump needed to stop Cruz's momentum. Now that Trump is ahead ... you don't hear Trump focusing on the issue anymore. I'm sure if it looks like Cruz is going to beat Trump in FL it will be brought up again.
And Ted Cruz will always tell the truth if he feels threatened. :silly:
This is politics. Get real.
And Ted Cruz will always tell the truth if he feels threatened. :silly:
This is politics. Get real.
Nope. Court after court has ruled otherwise.
Yes and Cruz is NOT your typical politician. His integrity mean everything to him. You've obviously bought into the 'Trump' media smear campaign against Cruz.
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
It doesn't matter if the issue is settled to Trump. He will try to smear Cruz with any lie he can come up with if he feels threatened.
Fight amongst yourselves as you will, the picture is becoming clearer. The choice will be Trump or Hillary. No amount of personal attacks or insults of the candidates will change the choice, Hillary or Trump.
The fighting, and virtual foot stomping only paves the way for President Hillary Clinton. Think about that, let it sink in, (pun intended).
Enjoy.
Fight amongst yourselves as you will, the picture is becoming clearer. The choice will be Trump or Hillary. No amount of personal attacks or insults of the candidates will change the choice, Hillary or Trump.
The fighting, and virtual foot stomping only paves the way for President Hillary Clinton. Think about that, let it sink in, (pun intended).
Enjoy.
Nope. Court after court has ruled that the people bringing the lawsuits did not have standing to sue. They have NOT ruled that Cruz is eligible, it has not come to that yet. By running - Cruz is challenging the Constitution and he knows it - remember? He's the Constitutional scholar that is going to protect the Constitution?
Flowers is right - the Establishment is well aware of this and Cruz will be taken out of the running after he's done all the damage he can do to Trump. It might hurt a lot of Cruz supporters to have to admit it - but Cruz is working for the Establishment now.
The sad part is that it's OK to many Cruz supporters - as long as Cruz comes out the winner. So much for Cruz's "outsider" status.
That is a choice between two evils.
What's a crying shame is that it is the nomination of Donald Trump that will pave the way for President Hillary Clinton. The public's hate and distrust towards Clinton is exceeded only by its hate and distrust of Trump. The polls bear this out - as well as that Cruz, Rubio or Kasich can each beat Clinton and place the White House in conservative hands.
But Trump scratches that itch, and that's all that matters.
My dad used to say "if dog rabbit".
It's coming down to a clear and real choice. Hillary or Trump. Make your choice, just be careful what you wish for.
Fight amongst yourselves as you will, the picture is becoming clearer. The choice will be Trump or Hillary. No amount of personal attacks or insults of the candidates will change the choice, Hillary or Trump.
The fighting, and virtual foot stomping only paves the way for President Hillary Clinton. Think about that, let it sink in, (pun intended).
Enjoy.
Actually, right now in the delegate count Trump is bogged down. Unless he take 64% of the remaining delegates by way outperforming his current trend, he won't have enough for nomination. He's got a tall order ahead of him.
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
Quote from: Bigun on Today at 10:00:11 AM
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
Thank you. We appreciate that.
Fight amongst yourselves as you will, the picture is becoming clearer. The choice will be Trump or Hillary. No amount of personal attacks or insults of the candidates will change the choice, Hillary or Trump.
The fighting, and virtual foot stomping only paves the way for President Hillary Clinton. Think about that, let it sink in, (pun intended).
Enjoy.
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
Quotefrom: Bigun on Today at 10:00:11 AM
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
I understand where you're coming from.
The truth about his liberalism and personal decadence doesn't matter to them anyway. You can only beat your head against solid brick for so long....
(But I'm going to miss the truth you post, Bigun! :patriot:)
Tired of arguing with irrational Trump supporters. Not going to do it anymore!
I'd feel better if you'd take the pledge. 88devil
I love the fact the people who have yet to make a rational, rather then an emotional, case think WE are "irrational".
Perhaps that's because you don't understand what the word "rational" means!
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being in or characterized by full possession of one's reason; sane; lucid:
The patient appeared perfectly rational.
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I love the fact the people who have yet to make a rational, rather then an emotional, case think WE are "irrational".
So, Bigun says he will not argue (or by extension, not provoke) is accordingly... provoked.
No way around it, Bigun.
Perhaps that's because you don't understand what the word "rational" means!
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agreeable to reason; reasonable; sensible:
a rational plan for economic development.
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having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense:
a calm and rational negotiator.
3.
being in or characterized by full possession of one's reason; sane; lucid:
The patient appeared perfectly rational.
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endowed with the faculty of reason:
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of, relating to, or constituting reasoning powers:
the rational faculty.
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The problem is that allowing Trump to win allows Hillary to win.
We have to keep fighting for a man of principle who can actually beat Hillary in the general.
Too early to abandon ship yet, Relic.
I'm one person, with one vote. You are the same. Unless you're a mega donor, or decide to devote hours and hours to a campaign, that's what you have.
I'll cast my ballot, but I'm pretty sure where this is all headed.
A Trump win is a Hillary win, only if a certain segment decides that a Hillary win is preferred over Trump.
Trump is vulgar and a bit of an unknown. Hillary is evil, and is well known.
Do you know who Trump would choose for USSC justice? Do you know the kind of candidate Hillary will choose?
I'm totally unsure what Trump would do, but I know what Hillary will do.
Do you want to play Russian Roulette with one round in 6 chambers, or select 6 rounds in 6 chambers?
It is not rational to claim that Hillary and Trump are equal.
My rational mind concludes they are quite different on illegal immigrant criminals in Sanctuary Cities, and admittance of muslims refugees and terrorists, just for examples.
If your rational mind cannot grasp and readily admit those differences, you might get a checkup for the calibrations on your own rational minds.
In theory yes! What PRACTICAL evidence do you have that Trump actually means a word he has said on any of that? I have plenty that says he doesn't!
In theory yes! What PRACTICAL evidence do you have that Trump actually means a word he has said on any of that? I have plenty that says he doesn't!Not playing ping pong with you because you say nothing.
Post the evidence! Or stop being disingenuous!
"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton won't reform the system........... they ARE the system!!"
Who made you the posting police?
Yes and Cruz is NOT your typical politician. His integrity mean everything to him. You've obviously bought into the 'Trump' media smear campaign against Cruz.
“Ted Cruz is a fearless fighter for our constitutional rights. He has spent his life protecting Americans’ God-given liberties, and he has always stood by his word."
Carly Fiorina 3/9/2016
What have you Trumpsters got?
The fact that Donald Trump IS the establishment irritates some of his people.
I guess the truth hurts.............. but it's still the truth.
If Donald Trump gets elected, we will get more of the same cartel as we've been railing against.
He IS the system.
And if we elect another politician we won't? Politicians control the system. They make the laws.
Who has been smeared more and worse, Cruz and his supporters or Trump and his supporters?
"Smeared" as in untrue accusations? Clearly Cruz.
Post the sources and some smears, as in untrue accusations, made about Cruz and his supporters. I won't hold my breath.
Go do it yourself.
Thanks! I knew you couldn't! :silly:
Whatever. Keep on trolling. :troll:
I believe that's what you are doing. Keep hurling insults; they do nothing but make you appear even smaller than you are. :seeya:
And if we elect another politician we won't? Politicians control the system. They make the laws.
Cruz has a record of fighting the system. Trump doesn't.
And who in the world actually thinks that Trump isn't a politician?? **nononono*
Cruz is a politician. He's part and parcel of the system. The GOP has done nothing visible to halt the ever increasing national debt.
Trump, warts and all, has never been a lawmaker/politician, either elected or selected.
Cruz is a politician. He's part and parcel of the system. The GOP has done nothing visible to halt the ever increasing national debt.
Trump, warts and all, has never been a lawmaker/politician, either elected or selected.
No, but he's been designated a "crony capitalist" by those who despise him, therefore he is a politician. (Shhh, don't worry about facts, they're not important)
I've sadly noted that the anti-Trump rely an awful lot on hearsay, innuendo, speculation and outright lies.
Trump is the devil! And don't you dare say otherwise!
Cruz is a politician. He's part and parcel of the system. The GOP has done nothing visible to halt the ever increasing national debt.
Trump, warts and all, has never been a lawmaker/politician, either elected or selected.
You don't have to be elected to be a politician.
Trump's a politician through and through. He plays the game to perfection.
The proof is in the polls. He's fooling a whole lotta people.
Cruz is a politician. He's part and parcel of the system. The GOP has done nothing visible to halt the ever increasing national debt.
Trump, warts and all, has never been a lawmaker/politician, either elected or selected.
:silly: Boy does Trump have you buffaloed. How do you think you navigate the crony capitalism that reins in New York, especially in New York City? You become a politician, and Trump is one of the preeminent practitioners of the black arts of crony capitalist politics.
You have to be smart and aggressive to be successful. The anti-Trump fear intelligence, aggressiveness and success.
I guess then we should start referring to him as President Trump.
The "whole lotta people" he's fooling are a minority of Republican primary voters.
Trump has enormous negatives because he is an enormously negative human being. His misogyny will not get him a single woman's vote more than the ones he currently has buffaloed.
He will LOSE to Hillary, so even if the nightmare scenario comes true that he gets the nomination, he will NEVER be President.
:silly: Yeah. That's why we actually take the time to investigate Trump's past and ask questions about why his record is so utterly irreconcilable with his current rhetoric. What we fear is someone drunk on power who isn't held to any degree of accountability, and who is supported by a cult of personality. What we especially fear are the once-normal people, people just like us, who drink the cool-aid and join the cult. People about whom the cult-god himself can say that he can tell them anything and they'll believe him.
The insults only prove how fearful the anti-Trump are of change. Why bother to make America great again. You prefer the status quo.
That is a meaningless non-sequitur......... and completely false.
The idea that people who don't want Trump don't want change is ludicrous at best, and completely deluded.
Electing Ted Cruz will be change. Electing Donald Trump will be more of the same political corruption that's been in charge of Washington for a decade.
If you want CHANGE, DON'T vote for Trump. He's a pathological liar, a charlatan, and as phony as the summer days are long.
We're not afraid of change, but we want the change to be moving back toward the Constitution, not careening further away from it, as will happen with a Trump presidency......... God forbid.
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Every US Senator and Congressman is part of the problem. Trump didn't get us $18 trillion in debt. He hasn't allowed 20million illegals into the co0untry and the river of illegal drugs. Those in office now are responsible. I'm sick of the status quo.
Insulting Trump and those who support him is shameful and devisive..
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Every US Senator and Congressman is part of the problem. Trump didn't get us $18 trillion in debt. He hasn't allowed 20million illegals into the co0untry and the river of illegal drugs. Those in office now are responsible. I'm sick of the status quo.
Insulting Trump and those who support him is shameful and devisive..
I love it when a plan comes together.
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Insulting Trump and those who support him is shameful and devisive..
Says the poster who always leads with the insult when it comes to those of us who'd prefer to stay away from personality cults.
And once in power, Trump says he'll change the law to cripple the press that would insult him (and that includes the owners of message boards whose members oppose him).
What's a shame is that you refuse to see how truly dangerous this man is.
And once in power, Trump says he'll change the law to cripple the press that would insult him (and that includes the owners of message boards whose members oppose him).
What's a shame is that you refuse to see how truly dangerous this man is.
You believe everything you hear or read?
True, he won't tolerate anyone speaking negative of him. He is a narcissist.
What do you think he'll do to "them"?
Trump said it. So you're implying I'm stupid for believing he means what he says?
The Trumpsters think this election is a reality show.
What he said he'd do. "Open up the libel laws" so the press can be sued for treating him "unfairly".
This is what amazes me about Trump supporters - Trump himself treats them as if they're stupid, and they just don't want to see it.
A lot of this is because Trump defines himself - and thus his supporters - in the negative, by what he hates, by what he doesn't like, by what he wants to get rid of, by whom he hates and whom he wants to get rid of. He hates immigrants, legal or illegal, he wants to get rid of hispanics, he wants to wall the country off from the rest of the world, he hates China and Mexico and wants to start trade wars with them.
The contrast with someone like Reagan couldn't be more dramatic.
What he said he'd do. "Open up the libel laws" so the press can be sued for treating him "unfairly".
This is what amazes me about Trump supporters - Trump himself treats them as if they're stupid, and they just don't want to see it.
He even says they are stupid. He says he loves the uneducated.
People should realize that is the way Trump survives by suing people.
He even says they are stupid. He says he loves the uneducated.
People should realize that is the way Trump survives by suing people.
Trump says he could shoot someone in the street and his supporters would still follow him. He thinks of his supporters the same as Jim Jones did. Customers for his kool-aid
DC here is the reason for the attacks, deceptions, innuendos, smears, falsehoods, rumors and spreading of fear:
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It's all they've got left. "Hate".
Expect to see a certain member here to get in your face...thinking you're lumping them in there.
They grab the moral high-ground in an attempt to differentiate their "hate" from the other "hate".
But in the end....it is what it is. :laugh:
It's been 24/7 Trump hate since last summer on the main forum.
Where were all the loveCruz, loveRubio, loveKasich threads? Nowhere to be found.
They attack Trump because they hate.
You're desperation shows, CD.
That's simply untrue.
The media made a BIG deal out of claiming that Trump got X percent of the "poorly educated" vote, and he simply repeated the chosen media slur...as in "Yeah? Well I LOVE the 'poorly educated'.
You second sentence isn't even worthy of a response.
This has been explained to you before...so why are you playing "troll" and "disruptor"?
Because I want Trump gone. He's a disgrace. Why are you playing toady to a thug?
Because he's MY "thug".
You're desperation shows, CD.
That's simply untrue.
The media made a BIG deal out of claiming that Trump got X percent of the "poorly educated" vote, and he simply repeated the chosen media slur...as in "Yeah? Well I LOVE the 'poorly educated'.
You second sentence isn't even worthy of a response.
Saw on Drudge this morning that Cruz was referring to Trump supporters [I believe in the South] as low information voters who pay insignificant attention to the race. Way to go, Teddy!
Ask a half-dozen random Trump voters where he stands on trade. On the debt. On how, exactly, he plans to get Mexico to pay for the wall.
They won't know.
Saw on Drudge this morning that Cruz was referring to Trump supporters [I believe in the South] as low information voters who pay insignificant attention to the race. Way to go, Teddy!
Perhaps Cruz has signaled to the money men that his ambition is purchasable...he wants it bad enough to sell himself. He won't have to worry...if he's selling, they've got plenty of printed money to buy him with.
It looks to me like Cruz has aligned himself with the Establishment he has been fighting against. He is such an ambitious man!
And your boy expects these people to vote for him if he gets the nomination? Not too bright.
I don't have a "boy." Rubio's done, and I will reluctantly get behind Cruz.
I don't know what to expect. But Cruz's characterization of the majority of Trump voters strikes me as true.
Cruz is the only viable remaining candidate to stop Trump. I think we have to all get behind him to avert disaster.
And your boy expects these people to vote for him if he gets the nomination? Not too bright.
Everyone knows the Trumpsters will stay home if Trump's not the nominee. That's how it is with cults of personality.
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Everyone knows the Trumpsters will stay home if Trump's not the nominee. That's how it is with cults of personality.
And with comments like Teddy Boy's, you're pretty sure guaranteeing it. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
That's not true, Sinkspur.
We'll vote for whomever the Nominee end up to be.....We're Republicans first and anti-Left/Socialism second.
How about you? :whistle:
If Trump is the nominee, how does he get the 2/3 of the party who oppose him to unite behind him?
Sending me a case of steaks that aren't his ain't gonna work.
Go ahead....keep putting your own selfish interest about the welfare of the country....and above the sanctity of the 2nd Amendment..., the makeup of the Supreme Court, and God knows what the hell else Hillary has planned for us.
So, it's a standstill.
What is Trump going to do to bring the 66% of the party who don't support him around?
Those who aren't in his camp aren't going to come over with more trashing of women, Hispanics, Muslims and God knows who else. They're not going to come over with talk of trade wars and single payer healthcare plans.
So what's his plan? Does he have one? Probably not. Just hopes everybody unites behind him.
He's got another thing coming.
It's interesting your assumption that the 66% you reverently refer to are there as anti-Trump, and not for another, INDIVIDUAL candidate. Especially since you have harped, ad nauseam that "25%" of the GOP voters will walk if the Donald is the nominee". So what happened to the other41%, hmm?
Can't fight something with nothing.
The Senator from Alberta, the last best hope, is now starting to use already failed tactics, like his statement Trump's supporters are "low information," etc.
I actually once thought Cruz was smart. But he like many lawyers, full of themselves, convinced they are the smartest people in any room.
And either Ted simply forgot the tactic already failed, or he feels he alone can use it with success, where others failed.
Karl Rove just became Cruz' real campaign manager, when Cruz signed on to be the establishment's water boy.
How ironic finding Rove and McConnell in Sea Island, plotting to have Sen. Cruz do their bidding.
What is unmistakable is that Trump is losing support, and has been over the last two weeks. In some cases, dramatically.
The GOP is not going to unite behind Trump in the way it has with other candidates. And it shouldn't.
It's Trump's job to bring everybody together. When has he ever done that?
Let's see. 20,000 Mass. Dems. change their registration either to GOP or independent. Over 10,000 Dems do the same in Ohio. Trump's attracting the blue collar 'Reagan Democrats in droves, and is pulling well on independents. Who have your jokers brought in?
Can't fight something with nothing.
The Senator from Alberta, the last best hope, is now starting to use already failed tactics, like his statement Trump's supporters are "low information," etc.
I actually once thought Cruz was smart. But he like many lawyers, full of themselves, convinced they are the smartest people in any room.
And either Ted simply forgot the tactic already failed, or he feels he alone can use it with success, where others failed.
Karl Rove just became Cruz' real campaign manager, when Cruz signed on to be the establishment's water boy.
How ironic finding Rove and McConnell in Sea Island, plotting to have Sen. Cruz do their bidding.
What good does bringing Democrats in do when he drives out Republicans?
I pay attention to what people say. Most Trump voters don't care what he says. They follow the man, not his policies.
I will not vote for a man who thinks the presidency grants him the authority to order the military to commit war crimes.
We attack Trump because he's a thug. Can't have a thug in the Oval Office.
We attack Trump because he's a thug. Can't have a thug in the Oval Office.
Fact;
He spent more than 21 straight hours railing against any government funding for Obamacare. Then Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting Wednesday to move ahead on a spending plan expected to do just that.
What good? Hasn't the GIOP mantra been, for years, that they can't win UNLESS they bring in more people. Concededly, it doesn't seem as if blue collar Dems constitute the people you want to see in. But they're there for the taking. And Trump is taking them. Check out the numbers at his rallies. Teddy Boy, Boobio or Kasich match those numbers?
Now you've posted, ad infinitum that 25% of 'Pubbies will either not vote, or go some other way if Trump's the nominee. I'll take that loss for the gain in voters.
And as for why you won't vote for Trump, who cares?
You are not going to offset a quarter of Republicans not voting for Trump in addition to the measly 18% support he gets with minorities with Democrats.
You better care about those 25%. Or rather, Trump better care. He can't win without them.
Just needed to be repeated about 1000 more times to get through to some of our thicker numb skulls.
The anti-Trump irrationally attack and denigrate Trump and any and all of those who do or would support him. Yet rarely (for me personally) do they ever advocate for a candidate in opposition.
Fact;
He spent more than 21 straight hours railing against any government funding for Obamacare. Then Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting Wednesday to move ahead on a spending plan expected to do just that.
So you've denigrated the opposition, without mentioning the fact that there's nothing in that budget that Trump wouldn't have signed on to, and supporting that position.
And I support Cruz.
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The anti-Trump irrationally attack and denigrate Trump and any and all of those who do or would support him. Yet rarely (for me personally) do they ever advocate for a candidate in opposition.
Fact;
He spent more than 21 straight hours railing against any government funding for Obamacare. Then Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting Wednesday to move ahead on a spending plan expected to do just that.
So you've denigrated the opposition, without mentioning the fact that there's nothing in that budget that Trump wouldn't have signed on to, and supporting that position.
And I support Cruz.
Cruz voted AGAINST the omnibus bill.
Cruz voted AGAINST the omnibus bill.
That's not true, Sinkspur.
We'll vote for whomever the Nominee end up to be.....We're Republicans first and anti-Left/Socialism second.
How about you? :whistle:
So was the 'blow up the GOP', 'bring it all down' talk just bull?
Let's see. 20,000 Mass. Dems. change their registration either to GOP or independent. Over 10,000 Dems do the same in Ohio. Trump's attracting the blue collar 'Reagan Democrats in droves, and is pulling well on independents. Who have your jokers brought in?
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-14/senate-clears-us-spending-bill-after-cruz-abandons-challengehttp://
Vote Breakdown
Thirty-two Democrats and 24 Republicans voted for the spending bill in the Senate, while 22 Democrats and 18 Republicans opposed it.
Shortly before the final vote, the Senate rejected, 22-74, a parliamentary objection raised by Cruz questioning the constitutionality of Obama’s action on immigration, which the senator and other Republicans call amnesty.
Cruz said in a statement before the vote that his proposal allows Republicans to show “they are committed to ending Obama’s amnesty once and for all in the next Congress.”
“If we agree it is indeed unconstitutional, we have no business funding it when the GOP controls Congress last year,” he said.
Democrats said Cruz’s use of parliamentary delaying tactics played into their hands, giving Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid time to advance a series of Obama’s nominations that Republicans had intended to delay.
Fact;
He spent more than 21 straight hours railing against any government funding for Obamacare. Then Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting Wednesday to move ahead on a spending plan expected to do just that.
Rudy Giuliani is the model here. L
Giuliani was one ferocious, tough, street fighter. You'd have to be, to bust up the stinking, entrenched corruption in city hall.
Is there anyone here who thinks that an intransigent, corrupt democrat political machine in power in New York in 1994 was going to play nice with republican candidate for mayor, Rudy Giuliani? He had to out-think and out-tough the political establishment. And build coalitions with police and sanitation, fight the teachers union. Constantly repeat the three major goals he wanted to accomplish: bring down crime, bring in jobs and improve economy, improve quality-of-life. The rest is history.
Giuliani recognizes himself in Donald Trump. He recently endorsed Trump for president.
You realize that Massachusetts will not.go to the Republican candidate in November. It's as was pointed out with Rubio and Minnesota.
Guiliani was diplomatic. Trump's a bully.
No comparison.
So was the 'blow up the GOP', 'bring it all down' talk just bull?
No point in arguing with me, Lert, when the facts say otherwise.