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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: rangerrebew on December 19, 2018, 05:30:59 pm
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BRILLIANT! Ted Cruz Calls For $14 Billion Seized From El Chapo To Fund Border Wall
December 19, 2018 Martin
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, has a brilliant idea on how to fully pay for the border wall between the U.S. and Mexico.
According to Breitbart, Cruz introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act on Tuesday, which calls for the use of $14 billion seized from cartel drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo†Guzman to be used to pay for the wall.
“Fourteen billion dollars will go a long way toward building a wall that will keep Americans safe and hinder the illegal flow of drugs, weapons, and individuals across our southern border,†Cruz stated.
https://ilovemyfreedom.org/brilliant-ted-cruz-calls-for-14-billion-seized-from-el-chapo-to-fund-border-wall/?utm_source=patriots&utm_medium=email
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He made this suggestion a long time ago and it fell on deaf ears.
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Pfft, like any of that money is still around.
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I agree @RoosGirl Congress had already appropriated the funds with the Secure Fence Act in 2006 with GWB, but Sen. Kay Bailey (whom Cruz replaced) introduced Legislation that reappropriated those funds to the Dept. of Education, El Chapo's money has probably already been spent by Sheriffs dept's all across the Country buying souped up Camaros.
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I like it. Great idea.
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He made this suggestion a long time ago and it fell on deaf ears.
Even worse, it fell upon Republican ears.
At this point, it is crystal clear that Republicans are not interested in protecting our border, not funding Planned Parenthood, reducing spending, or investigating Democrats tied to this Russian Collusion nonsense.
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Even worse, it fell upon Republican ears.
At this point, it is crystal clear that Republicans are not interested in protecting our border, not funding Planned Parenthood, reducing spending, or investigating Democrats tied to this Russian Collusion nonsense.
Yes it fell on deaf GOP ears. The RINO's in Congress are still out to undermine this presidency and they are more than happy to have things remain status quo. The don't feel that the corruption that most are a party to and the demise of this country will ever affect them. They feel that they will continue to benefit and profit.
IMHO they are dead wrong. They will eventually sell each other out and will have nowhere to run. In fact, I believe they will become the most impacted as they have the farthest to fall.
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Cruz voted on funding Planned Parenthood twice, I'm sorry if it appears he's joining the uniparty the longer he is in DC.
He's said this before about Border Wall funding. Why doesnt he put this in a bill? I think in the previous discussion, there was some red tape involved in releasing the funds but it could be done, additionally with, yes, new laws concerning that. It could have veen discussed back in the 2016 Republican candidate campaign.
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Cruz voted on funding Planned Parenthood twice, I'm sorry if it appears he's joining the uniparty the longer he is in DC.
He's said this before about Border Wall funding. Why doesnt he put this in a bill? I think in the previous discussion, there was some red tape involved in releasing the funds but it could be done, additionally with, yes, new laws concerning that. It could have veen discussed back in the 2016 Republican candidate campaign.
Sounds like it is in a bill, the (so cleverly named *****rollingeyes***** ) EL CHAPO Act.
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Did he actually try and introduce a bill on this? Introduce it in commitee?
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Did he actually try and introduce a bill on this? Introduce it in commitee?
This article just said he introduced it. It doesn't say where. Could have been to one of his 5 mistresses to get her hot.
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This article just said he introduced it. It doesn't say where. Could have been to one of his 5 mistresses to get her hot.
Or a late filing to the Warren Commission to absolve his daddy of any wrongdoing.
I swear @TomSea hatred of Ted borders on @sneakypete hatred of anything Bush, I love them both but isn't there a pill for that?
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Or a late filing to the Warren Commission to absolve his daddy of any wrongdoing.
I swear @TomSea hatred of Ted borders on @sneakypete hatred of anything Bush, I love them both but isn't there a pill for that?
I think they took it already, and the 4 hour timeframe before you call your doctor is WAY past.
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@corbe
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Actually @TomSea I must admit that at times you post more positively of Ted than I do.
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Even worse, it fell upon Republican ears.
At this point, it is crystal clear that Republicans are not interested in protecting our border, not funding Planned Parenthood, reducing spending, or investigating Democrats tied to this Russian Collusion nonsense.
And Cruz gets media credits(?) for floating a s$$t useless, wasn't goig to happen anyway, pie in the sky piece of self aggrandizing PR.
El Chapo is Mex jurisdiction. Any $ that Govt Gets out of him will be Staying in Mexico.
Blowhard.
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El Chapo's organization had $Billions deposited in American Banks, particularly Wells Fargo and Bank of America, I believe.
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El Chapo's organization had $Billions deposited in American Banks, particularly Wells Fargo and Bank of America, I believe.
That's the way I understand it.
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El Chapo's organization had $Billions deposited in American Banks, particularly Wells Fargo and Bank of America, I believe.
Even if he does, the second it goes before another Leftist Judge, they toss asset forfiture right out the window, because Trump, . . . . or something.
As for Cruz, I rather see him pull his head out of his A@@ and TRY getting the requisite votes together to just Build the freakin wall the right way, . . . . but there's no political capital in that since it won't have His name on it for the year and a half our joke Courts play volley-ball with it.
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Even if he does, the second it goes before another Leftist Judge, they toss asset forfiture right out the window, because Trump, . . . . or something.
As for Cruz, I rather see him pull his head out of his A@@ and TRY getting the requisite votes together to just Build the freakin wall the right way, . . . . but there's no political capital in that since it won't have His name on it for the year and a half our joke Courts play volley-ball with it.
Dood - he came up with a way to fund it and more and you complain? :shrug:
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I just don't get it @Sanguine, Sure they hated him when he said 'Vote your conscience' at their closed party in 2016 but now he's in the Executive Car (Caboose) on the Trump Train and they still have a boner for him. :shrug:
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I just don't get it @Sanguine, Sure they hated him when he said 'Vote your conscience' at their closed party in 2016 but now he's in the Executive Car (Caboose) on the Trump Train and they still have a boner for him. :shrug:
@corbe you just can't fix stupid. :shrug:
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@corbe you just can't fix stupid. :shrug:
@libertybele @corbe
Yeah, well, who are you speaking to?
Liberty Belle gives the same boorish speech about "Oh, I think Trump is going to work with the Democrats if they are in charge", this is turned back on someone and Corbe goes bananas,.
By the way, Cruz has aligned himself clearly with Trump, something Corbe certainly did not and Liberty was talking up the Constitution party before the election.
So, Corbe doesn't even support what Cruz says, Get a life, he has to slander people with a lazy argument calling people haters.
And as for LibertyBele, hey, if this bill would work, obviously, it would go somewhere, it hasn't and Cruz has done that much on Cap Hill, no more than Paul, Rubio and so on. Yes, he says some of the right things, he also had a campaign that had a lot of tricks and I supported him before that became seemingly like every state.
And that "voters" thread whatever it was last night, how we saw some that didn't mind joining in the fun.
Touche.
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Even if he does, the second it goes before another Leftist Judge, they toss asset forfiture right out the window, because Trump, . . . . or something.
As for Cruz, I rather see him pull his head out of his A@@ and TRY getting the requisite votes together to just Build the freakin wall the right way, . . . . but there's no political capital in that since it won't have His name on it for the year and a half our joke Courts play volley-ball with it.
Really, what's the hold up, if it is such a great bill, why are we hearing nothing about it. Yeah, we got it from the Cruz-ers, cause everyone is against Ted, he thought up the border wall by himself, etc. etc. etc.
People dish it out, and they will hear some responses.
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The Breitbart article is from April 2017, that is its date, so this is some old article. Cruz said this over a year ago. I'm sorry, you will find responses if you trash the president daily but some bill that sounds like it can't even get out of committee is some great accomplishment.
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2017/04/25/ted-cruz-calls-14-billion-seized-el-chapo-fund-border-wall/ (https://www.breitbart.com/border/2017/04/25/ted-cruz-calls-14-billion-seized-el-chapo-fund-border-wall/)
There's some hold up, yeah, it's everyone else's fault.
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@libertybele @corbe
Yeah, well, who are you speaking to?
Liberty Belle gives the same boorish speech about "Oh, I think Trump is going to work with the Democrats if they are in charge", this is turned back on someone and Corbe goes bananas,.
By the way, Cruz has aligned himself clearly with Trump, something Corbe certainly did not and Liberty was talking up the Constitution party before the election.
So, Corbe doesn't even support what Cruz says, Get a life, he has to slander people with a lazy argument calling people haters.
And as for LibertyBele, hey, if this bill would work, obviously, it would go somewhere, it hasn't and Cruz has done that much on Cap Hill, no more than Paul, Rubio and so on. Yes, he says some of the right things, he also had a campaign that had a lot of tricks and I supported him before that became seemingly like every state.
And that "voters" thread whatever it was last night, how we saw some that didn't mind joining in the fun.
Touche.
Really, what's the hold up, if it is such a great bill, why are we hearing nothing about it. Yeah, we got it from the Cruz-ers, cause everyone is against Ted, he thought up the border wall by himself, etc. etc. etc.
People dish it out, and they will hear some responses.
You are really confusing the whole issue of you maintaining wood. The first comment seems like a no, but then the next one makes it seem like a yes. Anyway, probably best not to discuss these things on a public forum.
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Republicans have a binder full of dance steps, whereby they cannot improve border security.
It started in 1986 with Reagan's Amnesty and continues to this day.
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Republicans have a binder full of dance steps, whereby they cannot improve border security.
It started in 1986 with Reagan's Amnesty and continues to this day.
Lets face it. They don't want to do anything about the border. Big Republican donors don't want to. Trump doesn't even want to. If he did he would tell McConnell to put it where the sun doesn't shine.
Even if this money is still there and could be accessed these scumbags wouldn't vote for it.
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@TomSea out of curiosity do you ever review what you write before you post? Just wondering. :shrug:
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I think they took it already, and the 4 hour timeframe before you call your doctor is WAY past.
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Excuse me, who has more Conservative accomplishments? Not just words. Almost daily, we have heard of giving back religious liberties or something that Trump does that is good for conservatives. Cruz has only words, so your broken record is a bit tiresome. When it comes down to conservative accomplishments, Gorsuch on the SCOTUS, those are true achievements to hear this running down Trump all the time. I don't agree with this withdrawal in Syria. We will have to see what happens but I'm not hypocritically trashing Trump with this innuendo of liberalism when he has already done much more conservative-wise than your man Ted has, whose actual accomplishments are minimal. It's really a cult, ignore Cruz has given much support to the President, might as well just echo back what you all write. It's nonsense, maybe I will write nonsense.
Even this article, based on a Breitbart article of over a year ago and the bill apparently went nowhere.
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Excuse me, who has more Conservative accomplishments? Not just words. Almost daily, we have heard of giving back religious liberties or something that Trump does that is good for conservatives. Cruz has only words, so your broken record is a bit tiresome. When it comes down to conservative accomplishments, Gorsuch on the SCOTUS, those are true achievements to hear this running down Trump all the time. I don't agree with this withdrawal in Syria. We will have to see what happens but I'm not hypocritically trashing Trump with this innuendo of liberalism when he has already done much more conservative-wise than your man Ted has, whose actual accomplishments are minimal. It's really a cult, ignore Cruz has given much support to the President, might as well just echo back what you all write. It's nonsense, maybe I will write nonsense.
Even this article, based on a Breitbart article of over a year ago and the bill apparently went nowhere.
I always thought that Fiscal Responsibility was Conservative. But we continue to increase our social spending including the funding of the baby body part business Planned Parenthood. Trump talks about how much money we could save if we stopped illegal immigration. We all know we can but he won't do it. He won't shut down the government for Conservative Principles.
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Dood - he came up with a way to fund it and more and you complain? :shrug:
Ted Cruz is FOS.
Could I be any plainer?
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Even if he does, the second it goes before another Leftist Judge, they toss asset forfiture right out the window, because Trump, . . . . or something.
As for Cruz, I rather see him pull his head out of his A@@ and TRY getting the requisite votes together to just Build the freakin wall the right way, . . . . but there's no political capital in that since it won't have His name on it for the year and a half our joke Courts play volley-ball with it.
Well, if they do away with civil asset forfeiture, it's a win, anyway (unconstitutional ripoff for lots of little people doing nothing wrong, even if the chance to stick it to the big boys goes away).
Let him try, but I'm sure the Pubbies would find some excuse to not get it through.
Washington remains Kabuki Central, lots of posturing, but little done. Sometimes that is a good thing, but if this bunch had been in office in 1941, the response to Pearl Harbor would either be tied up in committee or stuck in appellate court.
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Ted Cruz is FOS.
Could I be any plainer?
Who, in Washington DC, in public office isn't?
And America put them there. :shrug:
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Ted should rename the bill to "Bond Evildoers' Assets to Rigorous Defense" and see if that helps any.
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Ted Cruz is FOS.
Could I be any plainer?
Plainer? No, I was saying that you could be at least somewhat accurate.
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Plainer? No, I was saying that you could be at least somewhat accurate.
I've been completely accurate.
If you expect me to be more Specific, after the replies that You've posted me in the past (and I quote)
"Good Grief!"
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I've been completely accurate.
If you expect me to be more Specific, after the replies that You've posted me in the past (and I quote)
"Good Grief!"
Good grief.
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Good grief.
I've linked to enough hard evidence, in detail to qualify readers for at least a Batchelor's Degree in Pharmaceutical Fraud if not a Master's degree.
And None of it was every refuted by anyone beyond a catty remark made by Dr 'On The Take' who was upset at anyone questioning his industry's Top Dollar ethics.
What I Got from you, regarding the emotional breakdowns and aggressive behaviors caused by these Mind Control Quacks is to have it all dismissed out of hand with a condescending sniff of:
"Of for goodness sake, he was Sick. He needed treatment", when the GD Treatment is what set Most of those school shooters off on their murdering rampages to begin with.
So please, Spare me the Sanctimony over a "True Constitutional Conservative" Pharma Whore who introduced a bill to put the CBC and every other nitwit in Congress in charge of approving crap drugs that cause violence, don't cure shit, and directly cause all kinds of life long chronic, crippling diseases.
I'm in No mood to put myself through a second of those 10 year dry humps over 1 more 100%, bonded, FOR SALE political Street Walker in High Heels and Fish Nets, just so I can say, "See, I Told You SO!"
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I've linked to enough hard evidence, in detail to qualify readers for at least a Batchelor's Degree in Pharmaceutical Fraud if not a Master's degree.
And None of it was every refuted by anyone beyond a catty remark made by Dr 'On The Take' who was upset at anyone questioning his industry's Top Dollar ethics.
What I Got from you, regarding the emotional breakdowns and aggressive behaviors caused by these Mind Control Quacks is to have it all dismissed out of hand with a condescending sniff of:
"Of for goodness sake, he was Sick. He needed treatment", when the GD Treatment is what set Most of those school shooters off on their murdering rampages to begin with.
So please, Spare me the Sanctimony over a "True Constitutional Conservative" Pharma Whore who introduced a bill to put the CBC and every other nitwit in Congress in charge of approving crap drugs that cause violence, don't cure shit, and directly cause all kinds of life long chronic, crippling diseases.
I'm in No mood to put myself through a second of those 10 year dry humps over 1 more 100%, bonded, FOR SALE political Street Walker in High Heels and Fish Nets, just so I can say, "See, I Told You SO!"
I do disagree with your absolutist, fervently negative stance on mental health care. I do not question your sincerity.
However, this thread is about a bill to fund the wall, so I will leave my comment at that.
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I do disagree with your absolutist, fervently negative stance on mental health care. I do not question your sincerity.
However, this thread is about a bill to fund the wall, so I will leave my comment at that.
Fine. And since this is a Bill about Wall Funding that a grandstanding Sky Writer popped off about with a Click Bait Banner about a solution that will never come to fruition (and the mods want us to keep it civil) I will end My response with
Good Grief!
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Fine. And since this is a Bill about Wall Funding that a grandstanding Sky Writer popped off about with a Click Bait Banner about a solution that will never come to fruition (and the mods want us to keep it civil) I will end My response with
Good Grief!
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I can't imagine any reason we wouldn't be civil.
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I can't imagine any reason we wouldn't be civil.
Why on earth wouldn't we be civil?
I've only spent 10 years pouring over Court slip opinions, rigged clinical trial designs and results, official company denials of all manner of evidence against them, Sales PR from Docs who spend 40-60hrs a week pumping patients full of these nuero-toxins and seeing those patients litterally disintigrate, at arm length, then watching the US AG arrange Buy Outs at the Federal Level for pennies on the dollar as 40 out of 50 State AGs ramp up Court Actions against the Drug Maker for defrauding the State Medicare pgms.
I've seen Quack after Quack defend the position that it's NOT the drugs causing the behavioral toxicity, after SEEING The Drugs do Exactly That, all day every day.
I've a net friend in Ireland who lost her son to this industry. 21 years old. Had his own charity for the poor at his Church. Two weeks on an antidepressant he snapped and committed murder/suicide with a knife.
You put yourself in Her shoes. At his funeral the Priest launched into a screed against her son's 'evil'.
In defense of an obscenely huge pile of blood soaked money.
I've documented this stuff, presented it, and had it rebutted by Uninformed Opinion citing Theories as far ranging as Epigenetics (behavior/environment can physically Change a person's genetic make up)
Nobody ever bothered to even Read what I presented, before telling me I was wrong because of what They BELIEVE.
The Existence of ALL of these phony diseases is a matter of Belief to start with!
Or did we all learn Nothing with the parade of armchair Shrinks diagnosing Trump, without even interviewing him? (Not that an interview would have made their horseshit an ounce more accurate anyway)
So whatever could Possibly dispose one toward becoming un-civil?
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Why on earth wouldn't we be civil?
I've only spent 10 years pouring over Court slip opinions, rigged clinical trial designs and results, official company denials of all manner of evidence against them, Sales PR from Docs who spend 40-60hrs a week pumping patients full of these nuero-toxins and seeing those patients litterally disintigrate, at arm length, then watching the US AG arrange Buy Outs at the Federal Level for pennies on the dollar as 40 out of 50 State AGs ramp up Court Actions against the Drug Maker for defrauding the State Medicare pgms.
I've seen Quack after Quack defend the position that it's NOT the drugs causing the behavioral toxicity, after SEEING The Drugs do Exactly That, all day every day.
I've a net friend in Ireland who lost her son to this industry. 21 years old. Had his own charity for the poor at his Church. Two weeks on an antidepressant he snapped and committed murder/suicide with a knife.
You put yourself in Her shoes. At his funeral the Priest launched into a screed against her son's 'evil'.
In defense of an obscenely huge pile of blood soaked money.
I've documented this stuff, presented it, and had it rebutted by Uninformed Opinion citing Theories as far ranging as Epigenetics (behavior/environment can physically Change a person's genetic make up)
Nobody ever bothered to even Read what I presented, before telling me I was wrong because of what They BELIEVE.
The Existence of ALL of these phony diseases is a matter of Belief to start with!
Or did we all learn Nothing with the parade of armchair Shrinks diagnosing Trump, without even interviewing him? (Not that an interview would have made their horseshit an ounce more accurate anyway)
So whatever could Possibly dispose one toward becoming un-civil?
We all have trauma and have had bad things happen to us over our lifetimes. I don't expect anonymous posters on a political forum to listen to mine, and while I'm very sorry that this happened to you or you observed something that happened to someone else, that doesn't justify your trying to foist you chip onto other peoples' shoulders.
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We all have trauma and have had bad things happen to us over our lifetimes. I don't expect anonymous posters on a political forum to listen to mine, and while I'm very sorry that this happened to you or you observed something that happened to someone else, that doesn't justify your trying to foist you chip onto other peoples' shoulders.
It goes way deeper than chips on shoulders.
We all get lectured about "Foundational Principles" here continually.;
And getting tagged/slimed with a Diagnostic Opinion invariably comes with the victims LOSS/Suspension of All of their Constitutional Rights.
It's one hell of a lot later on the road to 1984 than all but a few have any inkling of.
Police State USA.
But my research isn't worth even reading because somebody else BELIEVES in the incurable Disease of Opinion.
So, Foundational Principles?
Nope. No time for those.
Gotta turn in your neighbors so the grubbermint can force the Help they need into them.
Whose idea were the Extermination camps in Nazi Germany?
Epigenetics my butt.
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WTF happened here?
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WTF happened here?
Every time Trump screws up, they resurrect the Ted Cruz scapegoat.
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Every time Trump screws up, they resurrect the Ted Cruz scapegoat.
Who among us doesn't love a fun Ted Derangement Syndrome thread? This isn't even that as far as I can tell.
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I think it's become a Big Pharma rant with a skew toward antidepressants being the fault of 'foundational principles' or something...
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Who among us doesn't love a fun Ted Derangement Syndrome thread? This isn't even that as far as I can tell.
I haven't gone Ted Derangement. No need.
This single Perfidy of his and fellow Whore Mike Lee should be black enough to condemn them both to purgatory.
The RESULTS Act.
The true colors of two Constitutional Conservatives.
Green and black, smeared with blood red.
When the handful of Honest scientists at FDA, who get nothing but crap from their Political Appointee Higher Ups, say NO, this drug is neither safe nor effective and we will not approve it. THEN under Ted and Mike's bill it gets kicked over to Congress to approve it, . . . .
Who? Elijah Cummings? Maxine Waters?
Those morons couldn't even Read a 60 page clinical trial much less make heads nor tails of it.
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The easiest way to fund the wall is to terminate all contractors working for the federal government with but a few department exclusions. That would generate 10s of billions of dollars, and actually put back to work federal employees who sit back and have the contractors do their work for them. This happens with HUUUUUUGGGGGEEE regularity, so end contract workers now Mr President and build your wall with those funds!
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The easiest way to fund walls across both the Mexican and Canadian borders is to stop paying out Social Security to persons who are below retirement age.
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The easiest way to fund walls across both the Mexican and Canadian borders is to stop paying out Social Security to persons who are below retirement age.
The easiest way to fund walls across both borders is to cut off benefits to illegals and we need to empty their jail cells and return them to the countries from which they came. Taking care of them is costing the U.S. billions!