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Title: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: corbe on July 07, 2017, 03:49:55 am

Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
 
Gov. Chris Christie’s ability to rise above controversy is at an end. Therein hangs a lesson for all politicians about the difference between populism and arrogance.

By Jonathan S. Tobin   
July 6, 2017

 
It’s not an accident that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and President Donald Trump are friends. Both tend to be contemptuous of the conventions that normally govern the behavior of public figures. Christie has never shrunk from berating reporters or citizens alike in ways that most politicians would never dare. As for Trump, we all know he is bound by no constraints in his dealings, whether in public or private.

Trump is still getting away with the sort of behavior that most people label misconduct but his base cheers or tolerates. Indeed, while his offensive tweets about Mika Brzezinski have, like his “Access Hollywood” tape boasts about sexually harassing women, have earned him bipartisan condemnations and media overkill, they don’t appear to have influenced that solid 35-40 percent of the electorate to abandon him.

But Christie’s ability to rise above controversy is at an end. Therein hangs a lesson for all politicians about the difference between populism and arrogance. Voters will often forgive or even cheer high-handedness and abusive behavior from their leaders so long as they feel they are standing up for them. But they will never forgive those who treat the perks of public office as something to which they are entitled.

‘Beachgate’ Is Christie’s Coup de Grace

Christie never learned that some rules of politics cannot be transgressed. No one minds much when a billionaire enjoys his own money in even a flamboyant manner. But no one likes it when politicians even of relatively modest means shove their perks in voters’ faces.

If “Bridgegate” fatally wounded Christie’s once promising hopes for the presidency, then “Beachgate” — which broke over the holiday weekend — is the coup de grace for his political career. With only months left in his term as governor, Christie was already at historic lows in the polls. But one shudders to think to what levels they will sink in the wake of the publications of pictures showing him using a state beach that was closed to the public as the result of a government shutdown.

Leaving aside the question of who deserves the blame for the shutdown — which belongs as much to the stubbornness of the Democratic-controlled legislature as to Christie’s unwillingness to compromise — the optics were atrocious. They were compounded when Christie was caught lying about using the beach when the press asked about it. Nor will anyone accept his dismissal of complaints in which he told frustrated citizens who were locked out of the state’s prime recreational attraction on a holiday weekend that if they wanted to enjoy a state park as if it were a private beach, they should run for governor.

Why Do Voters Like It Some Times and Not Others?

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/06/chris-christie-finally-crossed-line-populism-arrogance/ (http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/06/chris-christie-finally-crossed-line-populism-arrogance/)
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 07, 2017, 03:54:11 am
Lovely. An irrelevant piece written about a lame duck Gov who no one cares about anymore just to slam the Presidents tweets.

What an effing waste of bandwidth.
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Cripplecreek on July 07, 2017, 04:12:50 am
Christie is just one in a long line of political Justin Beibers who said a few things conservatives liked so they started chucking theor panties on stage in earnest.

Colin Powell, Condi Rice, David Petraeus, Scott Brown etc etc etc.

Its embarrassing.
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: INVAR on July 07, 2017, 04:46:09 am
Voters will often forgive or even cheer high-handedness and abusive behavior from their leaders so long as they feel they are standing up for them. But they will never forgive those who treat the perks of public office as something to which they are entitled.

Hmm..... Barrack Hussein Obama I?

Hello?

Beuhler?  Beuhler?


But no one likes it when politicians even of relatively modest means shove their perks in voters’ faces.

(http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/001-OBAMA-VACATIONS-01-800x416.jpg)

I don't exactly hear the Left in this country making a big ass stink about the perks the Obama's shoved in all our faces.... routinely.
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: XenaLee on July 07, 2017, 03:22:30 pm
Hmm..... Barrack Hussein Obama I?

Hello?

Beuhler?  Beuhler?



I don't exactly hear the Left in this country making a big ass stink about the perks the Obama's shoved in all our faces.... routinely.

Oh, but.... that's different, dontcha know.   Cause the Obamas are ""special"" people.   On top of being the preferred skin color by leftists in America right now.... they've got that magical "D" going on for them, as well.  (which also stands for double-standard)
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: the_doc on July 07, 2017, 03:55:31 pm
Lovely. An irrelevant piece written about a lame duck Gov who no one cares about anymore just to slam the Presidents tweets.

What an effing waste of bandwidth.

The epitome of the article's lameness is the fact that all populist politicians in our day are arrogant.  Christie never crossed the line, because there is no line.
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 04:07:38 pm
The point is being missed.  People are peeved because the beach was closed for a "shutdown," which is like the Memorials on the DeeCee mall being closed by Obama.  It was to inflict pain on the public, and Christie parking his butt on the closed beach is about as bad as the optics can be.  It would be like Obama taking visitors to the WW2 Memorial while he was keeping it gated off from everybody else.
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Suppressed on July 10, 2017, 09:18:09 pm
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,271231.0.html
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Oceander on July 11, 2017, 12:48:14 am
The point is being missed.  People are peeved because the beach was closed for a "shutdown," which is like the Memorials on the DeeCee mall being closed by Obama.  It was to inflict pain on the public, and Christie parking his butt on the closed beach is about as bad as the optics can be.  It would be like Obama taking visitors to the WW2 Memorial while he was keeping it gated off from everybody else.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Wingnut on July 11, 2017, 01:22:44 am

Choice Words for “Beachgate”
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_NJ_071017/
Title: Re: Why Chris Christie Finally Crossed The Line From Populism Into Arrogance
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 11, 2017, 03:45:50 am
The point is being missed.  People are peeved because the beach was closed for a "shutdown," which is like the Memorials on the DeeCee mall being closed by Obama.  It was to inflict pain on the public, and Christie parking his butt on the closed beach is about as bad as the optics can be.  It would be like Obama taking visitors to the WW2 Memorial while he was keeping it gated off from everybody else.
Precisely. If he wanted to be 'a man of the people' he would have stayed at the mansion and let everyone out there know his family had had to cancel their beachy plans, too. That would have laid everything (including the voter's anger) at the feet of the legislature.

If he isn't that politically savvy, he deserves all the enmity he can get.