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Title: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 16, 2017, 08:04:10 pm
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President Donald Trump made good on a long-time conservative goal in his first proposed budget Thursday morning, targeting the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities for complete elimination.

Trump’s budget would zero out the $445 million budget for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a relatively small source of funding for programming and broadcast operations on public TV stations and NPR radio stations nationwide, per the Washington Post.

The budget would also eliminate the budgets for both national endowments, which stood at $148 million each in 2016, as well as $230 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services, which supports libraries and museums. Additional cuts would affect two tourist mainstays in Washington, D.C., the Smithsonian Institution and the National Gallery of Art.
http://www.thewrap.com/trump-budget-killing-funding-pbs-npr-national-endowment-arts-public-broadcasting/
Wonder how many true conservatives out there who disagree with this move?
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: mountaineer on March 16, 2017, 08:38:51 pm
Works for me.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Emjay on March 16, 2017, 08:41:58 pm
Wonder how many true conservatives out there who disagree with this move?

I thought the cuts were less severe but I may be wrong.  None of those things should be federally funded.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2017, 08:42:13 pm
About damned time.  I hope he can make it stick.  The lefties are going to be screaming unholy hell about this.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: 240B on March 16, 2017, 09:00:42 pm
Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2017, 09:05:08 pm
Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.

It was a good idea at the time it was created, but it should never have gotten a tax exemption and it's been rendered redundant by thousands of cable/satellite channels.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Bigun on March 16, 2017, 09:10:01 pm
About damned time.  I hope he can make it stick.  The lefties are going to be screaming unholy hell about this.

Not a chance in hell with what passes for congressional leadership currently in place!
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2017, 09:14:21 pm
Not a chance in hell with what passes for congressional leadership currently in place!

You got that right.  We have a Senate Majority Leader who can't maintain reasonable decorum, allowing McStain to call Rand Paul a supporter of Putin in the chamber.  He shut up Lieawatha for less.  Don't even get me started on the Speaker.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 16, 2017, 10:52:17 pm
Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.
You get an exemption on your income tax if you fill out a 1040.

Are you then a government subsidized enterprise?
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: 240B on March 16, 2017, 11:02:21 pm
You get an exemption on your income tax if you fill out a 1040.

Are you then a government subsidized enterprise?
I only wish that people could give me money and then claim it as a deductible donation. I'd become the biggest tax shelter in the country.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 16, 2017, 11:06:05 pm
I only wish that people could give me money and then claim it as a deductible donation. I'd become the biggest tax shelter in the country.
Are you Rev Jesse Jackson or Rev Al Sharpton?  That is their technique and they do enjoy their haul.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2017, 11:08:00 pm
You get an exemption on your income tax if you fill out a 1040.

Are you then a government subsidized enterprise?

What's the point you are trying to make?
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 17, 2017, 01:49:05 am
What's the point you are trying to make?
Poster said Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.

I said that every person that fills out a 1040 form gets a tax exemption for breathing.

So the point is "So what?"

There must be just a very, very few taxpayers or companies that do not get an exemption.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: 240B on March 17, 2017, 03:43:43 am
Poster said Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.

I said that every person that fills out a 1040 form gets a tax exemption for breathing.

So the point is "So what?"

There must be just a very, very few taxpayers or companies that do not get an exemption.
I'm going out on a limb here, but I would take a wild bet that you are not an accountant or a tax attorney. But that's just a guess.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 20, 2017, 09:51:04 pm
I'm going out on a limb here, but I would take a wild bet that you are not an accountant or a tax attorney. But that's just a guess.
What does that have to do with anything?

Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Emjay on March 20, 2017, 09:53:22 pm
Wonder how many true conservatives out there who disagree with this move?

I like it.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cripplecreek on March 20, 2017, 10:06:09 pm
I like it.

I predict there will be some minimal cuts and even more money budgeted for spending elsewhere. When my congressman was first elected the first bill he sponsored was to cut funding for the endowment for the arts by 50%. He ended up voting against his own bill because by the time it got out of committee it was a 20% cut in the amount of annual increase and that 20% (a few million dollars) was immediately snatched up for spending elsewhere.

Maybe its time to limit the amount of money the feds are allowed to take in because tax and spending cuts are smoke and mirrors
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 20, 2017, 10:06:30 pm
Poster said Who could ever imagine a broadcasting corporation getting tax exempt status? Until this exempt status is revoked, they are still a government subsidized enterprise.

I said that every person that fills out a 1040 form gets a tax exemption for breathing.

So the point is "So what?"

There must be just a very, very few taxpayers or companies that do not get an exemption.

that's what I thought.  Agree.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DiogenesLamp on March 20, 2017, 10:07:42 pm
Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts




This should not even be an issue of any serious contention. 


This is a no-brainer. 
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DiogenesLamp on March 20, 2017, 10:09:09 pm
About damned time.  I hope he can make it stick.  The lefties are going to be screaming unholy hell about this.


Good.   Till you've got the right people screaming bloody murder,  you aren't doing the job properly.   


Leftists should be driven to suicide,  as often as possible. 


Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: XenaLee on March 20, 2017, 10:12:25 pm
Wonder how many true conservatives out there who disagree with this move?

I don't know about the "true" part....  but I heartily approve of this move....

for what its worth.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: XenaLee on March 20, 2017, 10:13:39 pm

Good.   Till you've got the right people screaming bloody murder,  you aren't doing the job properly.   


Leftists should be driven to suicide,  as often as possible.

Music to our ears (their screaming)....lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSxxQirBJLE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DCPatriot on March 20, 2017, 10:20:20 pm
Just saw on the Bret Baier News Hour on FOX, that Sesame Street is introducing a new little girl character...with autism.

I think her name is Julia and will debut in April on PBS and HBO.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 20, 2017, 10:22:51 pm
From another story on the subject, the funding was to be phased out over time, not an "all funds cut" story like the headline suggest.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DCPatriot on March 20, 2017, 10:22:57 pm
So, she'll be front and center holding hands with Big Bird, Bert and Ernie.....
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: ABX on March 20, 2017, 10:29:55 pm
Someone made a thought I'm curious about what others think of.

What if instead (especially because their budgets are so small in relative terms), Trump took over those entities and took creative/editorial control over their content, making all of those right-leaning instead of liberal mouthpieces?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DiogenesLamp on March 20, 2017, 10:33:29 pm
Someone made a thought I'm curious about what others think of.

What if instead (especially because their budgets are so small in relative terms), Trump took over those entities and took creative/editorial control over their content, making all of those right-leaning instead of liberal mouthpieces?

Thoughts?



That's one way to get funding for it pulled rather quickly.    I've long pointed out that there needs to be broadcast news organizations that are staffed by conservatives.   This idea has some possibilities. 


Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DCPatriot on March 20, 2017, 10:36:12 pm
Someone made a thought I'm curious about what others think of.

What if instead (especially because their budgets are so small in relative terms), Trump took over those entities and took creative/editorial control over their content, making all of those right-leaning instead of liberal mouthpieces?

Thoughts?

No...of course not.

Rush Limbaugh could probably produce a weekly hour show to be aired on One America News, or maybe even FOX...using his Rush Revere and the talking horse series.

Let Sesame Street do the same.   Compete and pay to spread your ideology.  Don't expect the American taxpayer to do so.

The ideology spewed is secondary to the fact the US Government should not be funding public broadcasting...let alone the actual programming/producing of shows like Sesame Street.

Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: ABX on March 20, 2017, 10:41:08 pm
The ideology spewed is secondary to the fact the US Government should not be funding public broadcasting...let alone the actual programming/producing of shows like Sesame Street.

Bingo.  Glad you fell into that camp. Saw a big conversation on FB where people were saying the real solution would be for Trump to take them over and make them a favorable network.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: truth_seeker on March 20, 2017, 10:41:20 pm
I predict there will be some minimal cuts and even more money budgeted for spending elsewhere. When my congressman was first elected the first bill he sponsored was to cut funding for the endowment for the arts by 50%. He ended up voting against his own bill because by the time it got out of committee it was a 20% cut in the amount of annual increase and that 20% (a few million dollars) was immediately snatched up for spending elsewhere.

Maybe its time to limit the amount of money the feds are allowed to take in because tax and spending cuts are smoke and mirrors

Limiting the amount of Property Taxes was enacted in California in 1978, called Prop. 13 (Jarvis-Gann), and has stood the legal test of time.

The authors of the bill were NOT politicians. They were conservative businessmen that felt the best way to limit the size and scope of government, was by restricting the funds.

Maybe grassroots conservatives should push for a national Jarvis-Gann Act.

I would be enthusiastic, but the definition of "conservative" is now all over the place.

Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DiogenesLamp on March 20, 2017, 11:02:57 pm
Bingo.  Glad you fell into that camp. Saw a big conversation on FB where people were saying the real solution would be for Trump to take them over and make them a favorable network.



Because liberals would suddenly realize why it is a bad idea for government to pay for such things. 

Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DiogenesLamp on March 20, 2017, 11:07:47 pm
As good a place as any to put this. 


 To Beat The Bureaucrats, Trump Needs To Shut Their Agencies Down


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Do Republicans really think that fewer than 5,000 appointees can win against 2.8 million federal employees who have a vested interest in absolutely nothing changing?

If Trump wants to devolve power out of DC, he has to shut departments down.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/20/truly-beat-bureaucrats-trump-needs-shut-agencies/#.WM_0W-Zp-fk.twitter
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: Silver Pines on March 21, 2017, 12:53:48 am
Just saw on the Bret Baier News Hour on FOX, that Sesame Street is introducing a new little girl character...with autism.

I think her name is Julia and will debut in April on PBS and HBO.

@DCPatriot

Sesame Street is on HBO?  They don't need government money, then.
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: DCPatriot on March 21, 2017, 12:57:08 am
@DCPatriot

Sesame Street is on HBO?  They don't need government money, then.

That's the point, I suppose.

If one premium channel can sign them, why not multiple?   Same syndication, but paid for and supported by, lol,....quarterly radiothons.

Corporate donations, etc..
Title: Re: Trump Budget Proposes Killing All Funding for PBS, NPR and National Endowment for the Arts
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on March 21, 2017, 01:46:35 pm
Limiting the amount of Property Taxes was enacted in California in 1978, called Prop. 13 (Jarvis-Gann), and has stood the legal test of time.

The authors of the bill were NOT politicians. They were conservative businessmen that felt the best way to limit the size and scope of government, was by restricting the funds.

Maybe grassroots conservatives should push for a national Jarvis-Gann Act.

I would be enthusiastic, but the definition of "conservative" is now all over the place.
We don't need that in Texas, as those over 65, the ones that need it most, have it already