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I'm in New York so my vote usually doesn't count cuz New York votes Dem in national elections.
But what if Trump closed the gap in New York? At this time I intend to vote Trump and a close race would probably clinch that vote.
But...
If Hillary proves to have a lock on New York then my wasted vote can be wasted on anyone so I may change my mind on who I will vote for.
How about your state? Have a strategy?
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I'm in New York so my vote usually doesn't count cuz New York votes Dem in national elections.
But what if Trump closed the gap in New York? At this time I intend to vote Trump and a close race would probably clinch that vote.
But...
If Hillary proves to have a lock on New York then my wasted vote can be wasted on anyone so I may change my mind on who I will vote for.
How about your state? Have a strategy?
I will not vote for Trump or Hillary under any circumstance. My strategy is to vote for the candidate whom I believe will come closest to moving the ball in the direction I prefer. Smaller, less intrusive government.
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@endicom
My strategy is to distance myself from liberal statist pathological liars. My state won't be close, but if it came down to one vote, Trump wouldn't get mine.
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I don't care if my state is close or not, I won't be voting for either NY liberal.
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Vote your conscience whether it is close or not.
Polls won't affect my vote.
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I'm not voting for Trump. I expect to vote for Gary Johnson. But I'm in Pennsylvania, which could well be THE swing state, so I may ultimately decide to cast a strategic vote. I may not decide until I'm in the booth.
I've thought just a bit about bartering my vote in exchange for a McGinty voter switching and voting for Pat Toomey. The PA Senate race is what is really motivating me to get off my butt on election day.
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I don't expect my state to be close, though it was pretty tight in 2000 (some may remember the five weeks or so of recounts).
But it doesn't matter. I've never voted "for" POTUS, only against the Dems by holding my nose and voting for whomever won the R primaries. McCain was tough, told myself that was the last. Then I went and voted for Romney, but that was it.
Now I vote for the candidate that best meets my values and concerns, if there is one that is good enough. It's not about Trump. It's not about HRC. It's not about SCOTUS. It's about supporting Conservatives who respect the United States Constitution. After this round, if the GOP wants MY vote, they can nominate a Conservative.
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I've never voted "for" POTUS...
I've been of voting age for 50 years and can't recall voting for anyone. I vote against someone unthinkably bad or for the lesser of evils. None have truly been for smaller government.
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I've thought just a bit about bartering my vote in exchange for a McGinty voter switching and voting for Pat Toomey. The PA Senate race is what is really motivating me to get off my butt on election day.
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My state, Massachusetts, will probably vote for Hillary.
Doesn't matter, voting is a statement to me.
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Ben Jacobs @Bencjacobs 1m1 minute ago
CORRECTION: Evan McMullin's write in votes will be counted in Texas
I've finally got somebody to vote for. McMullin should widely advertise this. Trump only has a 7 point lead and he could knock a few points off that.
I will write in McMullin.
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@endicom
My strategy is to distance myself from liberal statist pathological liars. My state won't be close, but if it came down to one vote, Trump wouldn't get mine.
@CatherineofAragon
Texas will go for Trump. I still may vote for Clinton as she isn't insane and Trump is, but it won't matter as Trump will still get Texas. Voting history in this state shows the majority of Texas Republicans hit the straight ticket button and their voting is done. It is fast in and out the voting booth.
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. I vote against someone unthinkably bad or for the lesser of evils.
I can certainly undertand that position. I've decided to go in another direction, but it's your vote to use as you see fit. I really don't get all the bad blood this time around. We've all got a heck of a tough decision to make and we're not all going to come to the same conclusion.
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I'm in NJ - it could go to either Trump or Hillary but I feel it will probably go Hillary.
I'm voting 3rd party or writing in a candidate.
Now the other voting - my congresswoman is a dud, I'm voting her out. straight down the Republican ticket congress, assembly, mayor, etc.
I just really want to have a Republican in my congressional district. The woman we have in there now is nice as a church lady, but as a politician she's making my skin crawl with her ultra liberal views.
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Montana traditionally goes for the GOP at the presidential level and the Dim for governor. It's likely to go closely for Trump but the libertarians have been surprisingly strong the past few presidential elections so I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Johnson and against both Clinton and Trump. We are going to get our absentee ballots in early October I plan to file it the day we get them and be done with this sorry election..
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Montana traditionally goes for the GOP at the presidential level and the Dim for governor. It's likely to go closely for Trump but the libertarians have been surprisingly strong the past few presidential elections so I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Johnson and against both Clinton and Trump. We are going to get our absentee ballots in early October I plan to file it the day we get them and be done with this sorry election..
Because of Governor Christie, I fear our whole congress may go Blue. To think this was a Red state back in the 60s and 70s. Even the 80s I think.
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I am in Pennsylvania. Right now I am leaning Johnson, but might go Trump if the race tightens here.
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Wisconsin here. I'm not sure how close it will be but I'm assuming at this point it'll go Clinton.
As a Coolidge/Goldwater conservative, I have trouble casting a ballot for Mr Trump. I did back Cruz in the primary as I prefer his Conservatism over Mr Trump's soft statism. However, I cannot even bear the thought of her getting anywhere near the levers of powers ever again. Her tenure as SOS was not only filled with corruption but incompetence. Both will not only continue, but increase if she becomes CIC.
I was hoping that once he got the nomination, Trump's campaign would address the fact that our fiscal situation is becoming dire and the size and scope of government. That's long gone now
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@montanajoe @Freya @Victoria33 @massadvj
Idaho votes republican. That pretty much frees me up. My main focus will be on the state and local level. I would like to see Rod retain his position as COP since he is more of a peace officer and doesn't so much have the "somebody has to go to jail' mentality.
I'm cynical enough to think that we will see record turnouts in the so called swing states of votes for hillary up to 200%.
And Victoria. Trump may be insane but a vote for hillary is more insane.(http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/4Bs106TESbROzIIAaszu.gif)
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And Victoria. Trump may be insane but a vote for hillary is more insane.
@bigheadfred
We will have to differ on this. I am speaking of a clinical personality disorder, which I believe Trump is. That he has a major personality disorder to the point it affects his life and all his decisions. I have reviewed his behavior from the time he was a small child and believe I am correct. I have also reviewed Clinton's early behavior and through her life and believe she is normal. I certainly don't agree with her political beliefs, but that doesn't make her "crazy". I believe Trump's personality disorder is dangerous for this country should he become president.
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@bigheadfred
We will have to differ on this. I am speaking of a clinical personality disorder, which I believe Trump is. That he has a major personality disorder to the point it affects his life and all his decisions. I have reviewed his behavior from the time he was a small child and believe I am correct. I have also reviewed Clinton's early behavior and through her life and believe she is normal. I certainly don't agree with her political beliefs, but that doesn't make her "crazy". I believe Trump's personality disorder is dangerous for this country should he become president.
We're damned if you do damned if you don't I think. Hillary will just be Obama's 3rd term, which means more 3rd worlders imported, more PC insanity, etc.
Calling Trump a narcissist isn't a stretch either.
With Trump I feel he'll burn it all down which is better than going with suicide by immigration at this point.
Just my opinion though.
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My conscience is not dictated by location.
No vote for Hillary. No vote for Trump.
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@bigheadfred
We will have to differ on this. I am speaking of a clinical personality disorder, which I believe Trump is. That he has a major personality disorder to the point it affects his life and all his decisions. I have reviewed his behavior from the time he was a small child and believe I am correct. I have also reviewed Clinton's early behavior and through her life and believe she is normal. I certainly don't agree with her political beliefs, but that doesn't make her "crazy". I believe Trump's personality disorder is dangerous for this country should he become president.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Oh yaw. I didn't say hillary was insane. I said voting for her is. But a hillary presidency gets us that much faster to civil war. May as well get that over and done with.
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@bigheadfred
We will have to differ on this. I am speaking of a clinical personality disorder, which I believe Trump is. That he has a major personality disorder to the point it affects his life and all his decisions. I have reviewed his behavior from the time he was a small child and believe I am correct. I have also reviewed Clinton's early behavior and through her life and believe she is normal. I certainly don't agree with her political beliefs, but that doesn't make her "crazy". I believe Trump's personality disorder is dangerous for this country should he become president.
I agree, @Victoria33 .
Hillary is mean and valueless, ambitious and evil, but I haven't seen anything that indicates she is insane. Trump, on the other hand, has a personality disorder so severe that it borders on insanity.
They are both dangerous to America, and thus, neither will get my vote.
And that doesn't change because I live in a purple state.
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I agree, @Victoria33 .
Hillary is mean and valueless, ambitious and evil, but I haven't seen anything that indicates she is insane. Trump, on the other hand, has a personality disorder so severe that it borders on insanity.
They are both dangerous to America, and thus, neither will get my vote.
And that doesn't change because I live in a purple state.
Everybody should vote their conscience. I have so little faith in the POTUS election process hillary wins no matter what.
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I live in Nevada. And since the write-in vote is not available to me but "None of These Candidates"
is, I am voting accordingly.
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I agree, @Victoria33 .
Hillary is mean and valueless, ambitious and evil, but I haven't seen anything that indicates she is insane.
She married and enabled Bill Clinton, didn't she? ;)
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I live in Nevada. And since the write-in vote is not available to me but "None of These Candidates"
is, I am voting accordingly.
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I have principles.
My vote won't change based on polling data
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I've been of voting age for 50 years and can't recall voting for anyone. I vote against someone unthinkably bad or for the lesser of evils. None have truly been for smaller government.
Yes, well, is this case, I guess you can say I'm voting against Hillary AND Trump.
Both are evil. Trump is the biggest RINO that ever walked the face of the earth. I just can't help but wonder if Trumpettes would have backed Sanders if he ran in the Republican primary because - you know - he's NOT Hillary!
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NJ is blue blue blue. sadly. just our two senators are booker and menendez. aaaaaaargggggggghhhhhhh
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NC will be close as usual. Have to stop the Democrats.
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Montana.
Principles.
Castle.
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She married and enabled Bill Clinton, didn't she? ;)
She didn't inhale ....just blew.
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Montana.
Principles.
Castle.
@roamer_1
As of last week Castle was not going to be on the ballot according to the SOS :pondering: That's why I chose Johnson, if I'm going 3rd party want it to show up someplace but in the "Other" category when the votes are counted. If he was/is on the ballot I'll vote for him but don't want to do a write in..
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@roamer_1
As of last week Castle was not going to be on the ballot according to the SOS :pondering: That's why I chose Johnson, if I'm going 3rd party want it to show up someplace but in the "Other" category when the votes are counted. If he was/is on the ballot I'll vote for him but don't want to do a write in..
News to me... As far as I know, write-in is still pending.
*shrugs*
If so, I'll follow you, or abstain... Or maybe that McMuffin feller.
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Iowa is likely to be close. I have an open mind and will have till election day. Trump needs to find a way to win my vote, or I will vote third party or write in.
Still waiting.
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Iowa is likely to be close. I have an open mind and will have till election day. Trump needs to find a way to win my vote, or I will vote third party or write in.
Still waiting.
I feel exactly the same way....Not sure if Il will be even close..polls say a 20pt lead but why is she running ads locally....I am central Il and we are mostly conservative here....I will decide in a few weeks
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News to me... As far as I know, write-in is still pending.
*shrugs*
If so, I'll follow you, or abstain... Or maybe that McMuffin feller.
@montanajoe
Come to Idaho and vote. Looks like most are on our ballot.
Darrell Lane Castle/Scott Bradley (Constitution - listed as Independent)
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
Scott Copeland/J.R. Meyers (Constitution)
Rocky De La Fuente/Michael Alan Steinberg (Independent)
Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (Libertarian)
Evan McMullin/Nathan Johnson (Independent)
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (Green)
Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican)
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@montanajoe
Come to Idaho and vote. Looks like most are on our ballot.
Darrell Lane Castle/Scott Bradley (Constitution - listed as Independent)
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
Scott Copeland/J.R. Meyers (Constitution)
Rocky De La Fuente/Michael Alan Steinberg (Independent)
Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (Libertarian)
Evan McMullin/Nathan Johnson (Independent)
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (Green)
Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican)
@bigheadfred
Geez if I wasn't getting an absentee ballot in the mail I sure as hell would not drag my sorry azz down the street to vote let alone drive a couple of hundred miles to spud country. :laugh:
Wish we had your choices though, I'd probably go with McMullin
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@montanajoe
Come to Idaho and vote. Looks like most are on our ballot.
Not so lucky here, so far... I imagine I'll be abstaining.
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Not so lucky here, so far... I imagine I'll be abstaining.
I'm pretty much set on abstaining mostly because I don't want to participate in what I view as a failed system.
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I'm pretty much set on abstaining mostly because I don't want to participate in what I view as a failed system.
:shrug: I'd vote if I had someone to vote for... Right now, Johnson is as close as I can get, and that's still a long way off. **nononono*
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:shrug: I'd vote if I had someone to vote for... Right now, Johnson is as close as I can get, and that's still a long way off. **nononono*
We're really close on this. I'd vote if I had something to vote for...
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I just figured out what bothers me about this thread and the question posed by it:
There is some sort of assumption that I am *obligated* to vote one way or another it it is "close."
If the race is "close" between two big-government, overreaching liberals, my obligation is still to vote my conscience and find the candidate who will best represent conservative values.
Right now, that's neither Trump not Clinton. If I later decide everyone in the race is a suck arse liberal, then I guess "vote accordingly" would be to stay home. I don't vote for liberals.
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I just figured out what bothers me about this thread and the question posed by it:
There is some sort of assumption that I am *obligated* to vote one way or another it it is "close."
The only assumption is yours.
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A humble request of all "abstainers" - please vote for the other offices (local, state, congressional), even if you pass on the presidential contest. :patriot:
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A humble request of all "abstainers" - please vote for the other offices (local, state, congressional), even if you pass on the presidential contest. :patriot:
I am voting state. Especially since there is a vacancy on the state Supreme Court. I expect hillary to take the POTUS spot.
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@montanajoe
Come to Idaho and vote. Looks like most are on our ballot.
Darrell Lane Castle/Scott Bradley (Constitution - listed as Independent)
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
Scott Copeland/J.R. Meyers (Constitution)
Rocky De La Fuente/Michael Alan Steinberg (Independent)
Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (Libertarian)
Evan McMullin/Nathan Johnson (Independent)
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (Green)
Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican)
Tom Hoefling is missing there
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Tom Hoefling is missing there
Oh, the humanity!
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Tom Hoefling is missing there
@mountaineer
He a thug pimp?
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A humble request of all "abstainers" - please vote for the other offices (local, state, congressional), even if you pass on the presidential contest. :patriot:
Oh I totally plan on voting for conservatives wherever I can.
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Oh I totally plan on voting for conservatives wherever I can.
:thumbsup:
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Tom Hoefling is missing there
LOL. Tom is from Iowa BTW, and I met him a few years ago when he ran for Governor. Nice guy, but very naive and short on real policy solutions. He'd make a great conservative activist lawyer though.