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General Category => Trump Legal Investigations => Topic started by: ABX on May 20, 2013, 08:52:03 pm
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CIA source says Fox News scandal the "4th Shoe"; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on "something" that has top aides terrified.— joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013 (https://twitter.com/josephcurl/status/336567080830783488)
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As a heads up, Joseph Curl is Matt Drudge's main editor.
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That's the equivalent of "I know something you don't know".
An attention whore. Pure, unadulterated BS.
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That's the equivalent of "I know something you don't know".
An attention whore. Pure, unadulterated BS.
Normally I would agree except for two things.
1. Everything that came out last week and today. It is raining.
2. The source is highly reliable and it is his mode to tease things before blowing it open.
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Normally I would agree except for two things.
1. Everything that came out last week and today. It is raining.
2. The source is highly reliable and it is his mode to tease things before blowing it open.
I'm sick of the "tease" when it comes to serious issues. If it's real, and serious, don't tease. If you have to tease, it's either false, or not serious.
99 times out of 100 the tease is for nothing of any real importance. And I've lost patience for those that feel they must tease.
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I'm sick of the "tease" when it comes to serious issues. If it's real, and serious, don't tease. If you have to tease, it's either false, or not serious.
99 times out of 100 the tease is for nothing of any real importance. And I've lost patience for those that feel they must tease.
Sometimes to tease the story encourages people who are supplying information to be forthcoming, either to ride the wave to be the first, or intimidate them that it will come out with or without them.
Also, it gets a bunch of eyes on the story so it isn't buried. Like a good movie trailer gets people in the theater.
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Sometimes to tease the story encourages people who are supplying information to be forthcoming, either to ride the wave to be the first, or intimidate them that it will come out with or without them.
Also, it gets a bunch of eyes on the story so it isn't buried. Like a good movie trailer gets people in the theater.
I'm the exception then. When I see a "tease", I tend to think of Whoraldo at Capone's vault or Donald Trump and his wealth of information from a team of investigators in Hawaii. I assign that level of significance to what is being teased and ignore it accordingly.
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Okay....so if I had to guess, it would be something to do with where Barack Obama was during the Benghazi attack.
He wasn't even at the White House that afternoon or evening.
Why else is it such a big secret?
He was probably in the air flying to Vegas...to party hardy.
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I don't pooh pooh anything. Obama threw the CIA under the bus in an attempt to save his hide.... they are out for blood now ... you never want to piss off the CIA.
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I don't pooh pooh anything. Obama threw the CIA under the bus in an attempt to save his hide.... they are out for blood now ... you never want to piss off the CIA.
So...you're going 'all in' on Ulsterman and the White House Insider? :laugh:
As an aside....who would be in charge of tapping phones in the Cloakroom....Associated Press....and James Rosen's emails, etc..
The CIA? The FBI? A division of DHS?
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So...you're going 'all in' on Ulsterman and the White House Insider? :laugh:
As an aside....who would be in charge of tapping phones in the Cloakroom....Associated Press....and James Rosen's emails, etc..
The CIA? The FBI? A division of DHS?
This is from Drudge, DC.......... Remember Drudge -- the website that broke the Lewinski scandal???
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This is from Drudge, DC.......... Remember Drudge -- the website that broke the Lewinski scandal???
I know it's from Drudge. We're all trying to guess what it could be.
I recall your recent Ulsterman column, where the WHI said that the "CIA will put a size twelve shoe up your a$$".
Try to keep up... :laugh:
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I am reluctant to speculate because it is pointless... but... whatever it is, I hope it is just "big enough". Our nation may not survive this guy but it may not survive a major Constitutional crisis, either.
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I know it's from Drudge. We're all trying to guess what it could be.
I recall your recent Ulsterman column, where the WHI said that the "CIA will put a size twelve shoe up your a$$".
Try to keep up... :laugh:
and you can continue to mock him no matter how many times The Insider has been 100% spot-on.
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I am reluctant to speculate because it is pointless... but... whatever it is, I hope it is just "big enough". Our nation may not survive this guy but it may not survive a major Constitutional crisis, either.
No matter what this all comes to, I'm very pessimistic about whether or not America will survive.
One term of Obama, maybe, but a second with scandal after scandal?
I don't think so......
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Okay....so if I had to guess, it would be something to do with where Barack Obama was during the Benghazi attack.
Anyone know where Reggie Love was that night?
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and you can continue to mock him no matter how many times The Insider has been 100% spot-on.
It's unfortunate that you immediately offhand think that I was dissing you in my original reply to you.
I was reinforcing the forum's overall feeling it was the CIA holding the shoe...with your thread by Ulsterman.
Take it easy, Rap. :patriot:
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I know! Obastard & Family really do intend to adopt a little Nigerian waif from the "African-American Imports" adoption agency, as described here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,102663.0.html
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Curl is pretty clear this will be about Benghazi
CURL: Benghazi is the only scandal that matters
Spoiler alert: The IRS scandal, the AP phone records scandal — they go nowhere. In September, we’ll all be looking back thinking, “Huh, that was a big waste of time.” It will be — in fact, it already is.
Just when Benghazi has reached critical mass, the Obama administration, which has had only one scandal (Fast and Furious early in term 1, and that fizzled fast and furiously), suddenly has two more scandals? Coincidence, yes?
No. Not at all. They were dropped, on purpose, at a most convenient time, and they’re already played out. Exactly according to plan.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/19/benghazi-is-the-only-scandal-that-matters/#ixzz2TtYqRIas
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/19/benghazi-is-the-only-scandal-that-matters/?page=all#pagebreak
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Glenn Beck said the same on his show tonight, the other stuff is just keeping people looking away from the real scandal... he said it is and always has been Benghazi.
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WTF!!
People in here are saying that the IRS harassment of Conservatives and Tea Party groups isn't a Scandal?
By itself, it's an impeachable offense!
And the administration faking a National Security threat in order to go after a conservative reporter? And the AP wiretaps? The Cloakroom?
Don't tell me these "are going nowhere".
Like Carney said..."[Benghazi]... happened a long time ago".
For something to make "top aides at the Whitehouse scared to death" fear a 4th shoe coming... Well, If I were writing the script, it would be somebody stepping forward regarding the sanctioned hit on Andrew Breitbart.
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WTF!!
People in here are saying that the IRS harassment of Conservatives and Tea Party groups isn't a Scandal?
By itself, it's an impeachable offense!
It sounds like what Curl is saying is that what is coming on Benghazi is so big it will make the others pale in comparison.
On one hand, we have the IRS Scandal which is a crime
On the other hand, maybe there is High Treason behind Benghazi
Just guessing.
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That isn't what people are saying, DC. What we are saying is these were RELEASED to throw us off the Benghazi story because the "REAL" Benghazi story has not been told yet and it is the worst of the worst and so bad the admin is terrified to have it released.
and... it was not so long ago, in fact it is more recent than the date they started targeting conservative (2009)
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It may be like the murderer trying to cover his crime by committing arson.
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It may be like the murderer trying to cover his crime by committing arson.
Yep.
Why does anything think they will not allow congress to interview the 30 survivors?
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A little reflection is needed, I think. Benghazi as it stands is bad enough; it's not going to go away like that, but it's also not going to overshadow the IRS scandal to the point of invisibility. While it's always possible that Obastard pulled a true Nixon this time, I'm inclined to think it didn't happen. And, at any event, the IRS scandal indicates the existence of structural corruption that to my mind far outweighs the incompetence of one President. Benghazi is limited in the sense that once we have a new President, we have a new CinC and therefore the screwups that created Benghazi - being traceable to the current Boob of a President and his posse - are very unlikely to happen again.
The use of the IRS as a political weapon is going to be with us for a lot longer and will do a lot more harm to a lot more ordinary Americans in the future; as they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so just because we don't suddenly recognize politically-motivated audits/examinations behind every tree does not mean that these abominations aren't occurring on a frequent basis.
Unless there is a truly earthshaking bombshell sitting out there - the odds are strongly against it - then the IRS is one of the real scandals, one of the ones that really willl poison the American political atmosphere and take us that much closer to tyranny and totalitarianism; Benghazi won't.
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I tend to agree O. Personally, I think the IRS thing will resonate more with the public. They already fear the IRS and it is much closer of a controversy. The Benghazi thing will have to be pretty damning for people to personalize it more.
The only thing I can think of regarding Benghazi rumors that could possibly put it back on top was the one that it was a failed staged kidnapping for political purposes.
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I tend to agree O. Personally, I think the IRS thing will resonate more with the public. They already fear the IRS and it is much closer of a controversy. The Benghazi thing will have to be pretty damning for people to personalize it more.
The only thing I can think of regarding Benghazi rumors that could possibly put it back on top was the one that it was a failed staged kidnapping for political purposes.
I work with people who are in the absolute worst end of the IRS - collections - and I can tell you that the IRS scares the sh&t out of people, so much so that when they have one bad year, or one year where they forgot to file their return on time, they get so afraid of being caught and going to jail that they just stick their heads in the sand and wait until it's been several years and then the mess has just gotten tremendous. The worst thing about people who are nonfilers, though, is that if they're W2 wage earners, they've more than likely actually overpaid all of their taxes and therefore cannot get back what they've overpaid if it's been more than 3 years since the return was due.
The IRS scandal will resonate much more with ordinary people than Benghazi will.
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A little reflection is needed, I think. Benghazi as it stands is bad enough; it's not going to go away like that, but it's also not going to overshadow the IRS scandal to the point of invisibility. While it's always possible that Obastard pulled a true Nixon this time, I'm inclined to think it didn't happen. And, at any event, the IRS scandal indicates the existence of structural corruption that to my mind far outweighs the incompetence of one President. Benghazi is limited in the sense that once we have a new President, we have a new CinC and therefore the screwups that created Benghazi - being traceable to the current Boob of a President and his posse - are very unlikely to happen again.
The use of the IRS as a political weapon is going to be with us for a lot longer and will do a lot more harm to a lot more ordinary Americans in the future; as they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so just because we don't suddenly recognize politically-motivated audits/examinations behind every tree does not mean that these abominations aren't occurring on a frequent basis.
Unless there is a truly earthshaking bombshell sitting out there - the odds are strongly against it - then the IRS is one of the real scandals, one of the ones that really willl poison the American political atmosphere and take us that much closer to tyranny and totalitarianism; Benghazi won't.
That's my take, too, Oceander.
I was afraid some of us were being tricked....like the audience in a David Copperfield act.
Unless somebody comes forward with pretty damning items, I'm not letting go of the IRS scandal.
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Here's the reality of it from my perspective.
The IRS scandal, bad as it is, will NOT bring down Obama. He will deny culpability and it is unlikely his role, if any can be proven. The sacrificial goat will either be someone high up in the IRS or the Secretary of the Treasury, Jack Lew, and maybe not even him as he only came on board this year.
The AP scandal will NOT bring down Obama. If we are lucky Holder will go, he's an a-hole anyway, but Obama will be shielded.
But Benghazi? The best chance to remove Obama from office or to damage him beyond repair. Why? Because of so many unanswered questions. Why was Stevens in Benghazi? Was he running an arms to Syria operation? Why wasn't help sent? Who gave the stand down order? Where was Obama and what was he doing the night of the attack? Why hasn't Congress been allowed to talk to the 30 survivors? In fact, who are they?
Benghazi reeks to high heaven of betrayal, failure, incompetence, and cover up. Get to the truth of that event and Obama is finished, whether he remains in office or not.
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Here's the reality of it from my perspective.
The IRS scandal, bad as it is, will NOT bring down Obama. He will deny culpability and it is unlikely his role, if any can be proven. The sacrificial goat will either be someone high up in the IRS or the Secretary of the Treasury, Jack Lew, and maybe not even him as he only came on board this year.
The AP scandal will NOT bring down Obama. If we are lucky Holder will go, he's an a-hole anyway, but Obama will be shielded.
But Benghazi? The best chance to remove Obama from office or to damage him beyond repair. Why? Because of so many unanswered questions. Why was Stevens in Benghazi? Was he running an arms to Syria operation? Why wasn't help sent? Who gave the stand down order? Where was Obama and what was he doing the night of the attack? Why hasn't Congress been allowed to talk to the 30 survivors? In fact, who are they?
Benghazi reeks to high heaven of betrayal, failure, incompetence, and cover up. Get to the truth of that event and Obama is finished, whether he remains in office or not.
I'm not trying to remove Obama from office. Might as well pee up a rope.
Keep our eyes on the 2014 mid-terms....and hopefully, we'll see the Tea Party save our Republic.
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The administration admitted to its actions in the IRS harassment and AP spying cases. They haven't really admitted any guilt in the Benghazi matter, calling it irrelevant and saying "what difference does it make?" That's why it's possible the IRS and reporter matters are a distraction to the other scandal. :shrug:
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I've just come across this:
The Next Big IRS/Obama Scandal?
Posted on May 19, 2013 in Liberal Kryptonite
Red Statements blog (http://redstatements.co/the-next-big-irsobama-scandal/)
I don’t know if anyone is looking into it, but Obama has already tried to intimidate donors to the republican party. He had planned to sign an executive order that would have required companies bidding for federal contracts to disclose to whom they contributed campaign cash to. He backed away from that when republicans in the congress made a huge stink over the practice. Or did he? After all, if he couldn’t make them voluntarily give him that information, is there somewhere else he could have obtained it? Like, oh, I don’t know, say, the IRS?
What a perfect way to punish a company for contributing to the enemy. If the thought of disclosure scared them, they would halt all money going to the republicans, even if it was against their true beliefs. And if they didn’t stop the contributions, they could simply dry up the well by denying them the contracts they need to survive. Failing to do that by executive order, it would be a simple solution to get the IRS to search their returns and see where their money went.
Jay Carney, Liar 4 Hire, claimed that Obama wanted this information in the interest of transparency, so that voters could see where their money is going. Now let me ask you a question. Which is more likely? That voters will ask their representatives to find out who the contractors or that Obama would use that information to deny republican donors contracts. Hmmmm. Tough one, eh?
Has it already happened and we just don’t know about it? Consider this, in 2010, Microsoft won a government contract over Google. But Google has a long history of making donations to democrats. The bidding was declared unfair and gives Google a second chance to win the contract. Then, Microsoft made a large contribution to Obama’s inauguration ceremony in 2012. Coincidence? Consider this, the worlds largest software company spent 5.7 million in lobbying and was awarded just 4.6 million in contracts. After that donation to Obama, Microsoft was awarded a nearly 9 million dollar contract and another 36 million in email for the Virginia area and don’t forget the 617 million dollar contract. So with just these 3 contracts, Microsoft increased their government contracts by 662 million (and there could be a lot more) which means after contributing to Obama, Microsoft saw an increase of over 657 million in one year from 4.6 million to 662 million. Coincidence?
Will anyone look into this? Doubtful, although I am sending this information to several sources both in politics and in the news. maybe someone will attempt to connect the dots. We may never know, but readers of Red Statements will.