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Title: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2023, 09:27:25 pm
Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face

by Sarah Bedford, Investigative Reporter 
May 29, 2023 03:20 PM


Former President Donald Trump’s Memorial Day message ruffled feathers when he compared his own plight to soldiers “who gave the ultimate sacrifice.”

Posting on his Truth Social network in an all-caps screed, Trump lauded those in the “equally dangerous fire” of “stopping the threats of the terrorists, misfits and lunatic thugs who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once great nation.”

The message quickly drew criticism on social media for the comparison of his political situation with the tragedies of service members who have died.

Trump has a history of making controversial comments about veterans who have, throughout his political career, landed him in hot water.

<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/donald-trump-memorial-day-message-deep-state (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/donald-trump-memorial-day-message-deep-state)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 29, 2023, 09:28:47 pm
What fight against the deep state?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2023, 09:29:22 pm
   They should rename his website 'Trump Social'; it has nothing to do with the TRUTH.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: libertybele on May 29, 2023, 09:30:43 pm
   They should rename his website 'Trump Social'; it has nothing to do with the TRUTH.

You do make a very valid point.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: GtHawk on May 29, 2023, 10:21:34 pm
............And there's the stupid! I understand that anyone that runs for high office, especially the Presidency is going to have a huge ego but Trump is something else entirely, oh yeah fighting the deep state(debatable) is just as dangerous with a potential for death as our enlisted in war time **nononono*

(https://i.imgur.com/tR4frOV.gif)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: deb on May 29, 2023, 10:34:39 pm
Profile(s) in courage. Such bravery. I’m verklempt.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: berdie on May 29, 2023, 11:08:03 pm
Well, I do think he said that not getting a VD was like fighting in a war. wink777
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: roamer_1 on May 29, 2023, 11:17:06 pm
Shameful words... Denigrating the oath and cheapening the valor of our soldiers, writ in blood.

And on Memorial Day of all days.


How anyone can forgive that is beyond me.
What a POS.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 29, 2023, 11:34:13 pm
Shameful words... Denigrating the oath and cheapening the valor of our soldiers, writ in blood.

And on Memorial Day of all days.


How anyone can forgive that is beyond me.
What a POS.  **nononono*

How is this better than Shortbus Joe's constantly inserting himself into every story?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2023, 12:04:28 am
How is this better than Shortbus Joe's constantly inserting himself into every story?

Indeed, it's worse - Because he ought to know better. How many DEFCONs heard those words? Why would any of them vote for him now?

Just awful... Shameful.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: NavyCanDo on May 30, 2023, 12:08:15 am
What fight against the deep state?

Why does it matter what threat he named?  He said his fight was equally dangerous and that is absurd and to us Veterans insulting.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on May 30, 2023, 12:08:30 am
He's the epitome of a trash-talking fake tough guy.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: mystery-ak on May 30, 2023, 12:13:46 am
Bullshit...this sounds like something Biden would say...

Coming from someone who has never served.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 30, 2023, 01:01:36 am
While his high profile has no doubt pissed off folks on the Left who would drool over the prospects of taking him put, whether like the CIA got Kennedy or with a random IED, the reality is that there is no evidence of either being employed. It has been a war of lawyers and "bombshell" revelations which either were not fused, or contained nothing when examined, just a shell of fabrications.

Descending to that level of communications does nothing to endear the candidate to me. Nothing at all.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 30, 2023, 01:13:02 am
Bullshit...this sounds like something Biden would say...

Coming from someone who has never served.

President Bone Spurs knows a Vet's pain.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: GtHawk on May 30, 2023, 01:17:23 am
Bullshit...this sounds like something Biden would say...

Coming from someone who has never served.
Of our last five presidents three avoided completely on deferment, one was born(in Kenya) to late for a draft and one stayed home in the National Guard flying a fighter to defend American shores( *****rollingeyes*****) but at least he was in uniform albeit with daddy's assistance.

Clinton ever the POS lied about how he got out of service. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/02/13/clinton-releases-69-letter-on-his-draft-deferment/54942e4e-19c0-4cfd-92f0-6f63c3041c1c/

Obama born in 1961...so they claim.

Trump had bone spurs for his deferments, or did he, seems the consensus is no...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html

Biden who always talks about what a great athlete he was couldn't go because of asthma...five deferments! https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008/08/31/deferments_asthma_kept_biden_out_of_vietnam.html


Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: mystery-ak on May 30, 2023, 01:25:34 am
Of our last five presidents three avoided completely on deferment, one was born(in Kenya) to late for a draft and one stayed home in the National Guard flying a fighter to defend American shores( *****rollingeyes*****) but at least he was in uniform albeit with daddy's assistance.

Clinton ever the POS lied about how he got out of service. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/02/13/clinton-releases-69-letter-on-his-draft-deferment/54942e4e-19c0-4cfd-92f0-6f63c3041c1c/

Obama born in 1961...so they claim.

Trump had bone spurs for his deferments, or did he, seems the consensus is no...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html

Biden who always talks about what a great athlete he was couldn't go because of asthma...five deferments! https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2008/08/31/deferments_asthma_kept_biden_out_of_vietnam.html

Too bad the authors of our Constitution didn't require military service as a requirement to be CinC...but I realize that's just be... :whistle:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: cato potatoe on May 30, 2023, 01:45:24 am
This, after his psychotic easter message.  I can hardly wait for Juneteenth.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: bigheadfred on May 30, 2023, 01:49:50 am
This, after his psychotic easter message.  I can hardly wait for Juneteenth.

Juneteenth and Father's day coincide. So we should get a twofer.  pillowfight33333
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 30, 2023, 02:36:23 am
President Bone Spurs knows a Vet's pain.
He actually had a pretty good track record with Veterans and active duty troops, but this is a step over the line.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 30, 2023, 02:40:55 am
He actually had a pretty good track record with Veterans and active duty troops, but this is a step over the line.

I'm sure his non VA surgery helped him stepover the line.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 30, 2023, 02:52:42 am
He actually had a pretty good track record with Veterans and active duty troops, but this is a step over the line.

You know Smokes , Forgetting Trumpoy I wonder why Dwight Eisenhower never really protected the veterans.  Shit, the dude could have done some good.  But i'm sure this is another topic question for another time..
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 02:54:28 am
He actually had a pretty good track record with Veterans and active duty troops, but this is a step over the line.

(https://i.imgur.com/YKLh4VR.png)

I'll just leave this right here...    :seeya:


edit to add:

And all you sh*tbrains can clearly see those in the seven deep rows aren't paid bleepin' actors.  :bolt:


Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 30, 2023, 03:08:54 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YKLh4VR.png)

I'll just leave this right here...    :seeya:


edit to add:

And all you sh*tbrains can clearly see those in the seven deep rows aren't paid bleepin' actors.  :bolt:

That was then. The shit head is now. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: NavyCanDo on May 30, 2023, 03:26:38 am
He actually had a pretty good track record with Veterans and active duty troops, but this is a step over the line.

And THIS Veteran felt my vote was earned in 2020 by Trump, but he's gone over the line too many damn  times since losing the election.   This isn't the first batshit crazy remark he's said or typed.   I've had it with him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 30, 2023, 03:57:16 am
............And there's the stupid! I understand that anyone that runs for high office, especially the Presidency is going to have a huge ego but Trump is something else entirely, oh yeah fighting the deep state(debatable) is just as dangerous with a potential for death as our enlisted in war time **nononono*

(https://i.imgur.com/tR4frOV.gif)

@GtHawk

No,it is just ignorance. I personally know VN vets who never even heard a shot fired from a distance that talk about  being combat veterans,and in their minds,they really do believe it.

They don't seem to understand the difference between "could have" and "was".
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 04:32:00 am
Quote
Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face

Nope.  He did not.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 04:46:23 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)

I think this 100 year old veteran would agree with and appreciate President Trump.:

"100 year old veteran breaks down in tears at what America has become   “The things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it’s all gone down the drain”. (Video)

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1663267058371444740

Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 05:00:50 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YKLh4VR.png)

I'll just leave this right here...   

DeSantis does a pretty good job here explaining why military personnel love President Trump @DCPatriot  -----He comes back to it a couple of times. (Video)

https://twitter.com/miguelifornia/status/1660742523281874944
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 05:04:53 am
Bullshit...this sounds like something Biden would say...

Doubt it @mystery-ak    Here's what President Trump actually said:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 05:08:19 am
Profile(s) in courage. Such bravery. I’m verklempt.

Here's what President Trump actually said @debrawiest   What do disagree with?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 05:12:47 am
Too bad the authors of our Constitution didn't require military service as a requirement to be CinC...

Most likely the reason they didn't is the same reason they insisted the CinC be a civilian @mystery-ak
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 30, 2023, 05:20:20 am
Shameful words... Denigrating the oath and cheapening the valor of our soldiers, writ in blood.

How anyone can forgive that is beyond me. What a POS.  **nononono*

Why does fighting the communists, Marxists and fascists in the United States of America trouble you so @roamer_1 ??

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2023, 05:25:56 am
Why does fighting the communists, Marxists and fascists in the United States of America trouble you so @roamer_1 ??


Well y'all ain't fighting sh*t in the first place...

And 'different but equally dangerous fire' is total bullsh*t.
What a shameful thing to say...

Move over soldiers... make room for the political bomb throwers...
Equal my ass.  *****rollingeyes*****

No where near. Not even anywhere near the same time zone.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 30, 2023, 05:44:10 am
Why does fighting the communists, Marxists and fascists in the United States of America trouble you so @roamer_1 ??

Quote
But especially to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the country they love, and to those in line of a very different, but equally dangerous fire, stopping the threats of the terrorists, misfits and lunatic thugs who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once great country, which has never been in greater peril than it is right now. We must stop the communists, Marxists and fascist ‘pigs’ at every turn

Why didn't Trump do anything to stop them the four years he was in office?  Looks to me like those "who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once great country" had free reign to do so while Trump was in office.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: ScottinVA on May 30, 2023, 08:58:20 am
“What soldiers face”

Let me guess.. Trump is harkening back to his days “in uniform” at the military school again.  Yeah, I’m sure the orange blob faced his fears bravely. /s
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 10:06:42 am
Well y'all ain't fighting sh*t in the first place...

And 'different but equally dangerous fire' is total bullsh*t.
What a shameful thing to say...

Move over soldiers... make room for the political bomb throwers...
Equal my ass.  *****rollingeyes*****

No where near. Not even anywhere near the same time zone.

You are soooo FOS!   :yowsa:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: kevindavis007 on May 30, 2023, 10:31:21 am
Question why didn't Trump fight Deep State the first time?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: LMAO on May 30, 2023, 10:46:48 am


Why didn't Trump do anything to stop them the four years he was in office?  Looks to me like those "who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once great country" had free reign to do so while Trump was in office.

Not only had free rein to do so while he was president but grew more powerful
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Kamaji on May 30, 2023, 11:10:10 am
Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face

by Sarah Bedford, Investigative Reporter 
May 29, 2023 03:20 PM


Former President Donald Trump’s Memorial Day message ruffled feathers when he compared his own plight to soldiers “who gave the ultimate sacrifice.”

Posting on his Truth Social network in an all-caps screed, Trump lauded those in the “equally dangerous fire” of “stopping the threats of the terrorists, misfits and lunatic thugs who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once great nation.”

The message quickly drew criticism on social media for the comparison of his political situation with the tragedies of service members who have died.

Trump has a history of making controversial comments about veterans who have, throughout his political career, landed him in hot water.

<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/donald-trump-memorial-day-message-deep-state (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/donald-trump-memorial-day-message-deep-state)

:facepalm2:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2023, 01:28:03 pm
You are soooo FOS!   :yowsa:

Nope. I mean every single word of it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Kamaji on May 30, 2023, 01:34:59 pm
Question why didn't Trump fight Deep State the first time?

Exactly.  Particularly when he had a republican majority in Congress.

And, more to the point, given his signature failure the first time 'round, why on Earth should anyone believe that he would do anything differently in a second term?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 30, 2023, 01:40:23 pm
(https://sd.keepcalms.com/i/drama-queen-alert.png)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 02:28:57 pm
Nope. I mean every single word of it.

Oh...we know that.   Thus, the FOS, my friend.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: GtHawk on May 30, 2023, 03:47:48 pm
@GtHawk

No,it is just ignorance. I personally know VN vets who never even heard a shot fired from a distance that talk about  being combat veterans,and in their minds,they really do believe it.

They don't seem to understand the difference between "could have" and "was".
And there we go entirely ignoring that a politician says what he does, or doesn't do is just as dangerous as soldiers in combat, not non combatant soldiers, but soldiers in combat. By the way freely admitting I never served but I do know that even non combatant soldiers risk injury and death in training while the biggest threat Trump risks is heart disease from his diet.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Kamaji on May 30, 2023, 03:49:44 pm
And there we go entirely ignoring that a politician says what he does, or doesn't do is just as dangerous as soldiers in combat, not non combatant soldiers, but soldiers in combat. By the way freely admitting I never served but I do know that even non combatant soldiers risk injury and death in training while the biggest threat Trump risks is heart disease from his diet.


:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 04:00:34 pm


IMHO, there's a surplus of stupid on the forum.

Cue Cindy Lauper...all you rabid Trump-hating hyenas are showing us your "True Colors".

Any objective non-registered Democrat liberal on the planet knows what Pres. Trump meant in his analogy.

retards....  you're all starting to piss me off. 

@sneakypete   hang in there, buddy!   :beer:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on May 30, 2023, 04:17:35 pm
G.I. Bone Spur fights for himself and his own self interest.

There is no comparison between the self-sacrifice of members of the military and their families, and Trump's willingness to sacrifice others for himself.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: bigheadfred on May 30, 2023, 04:39:39 pm
What the headline claims and what Trump said are two different things. While the messaging is off for Memorial Day I have to ask myself, "How did the J6 protesters fight against the deep state go?"
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: roamer_1 on May 30, 2023, 04:59:06 pm
Oh...we know that.   Thus, the FOS, my friend.

@DCPatriot

The oath of our servicemen is written in blood and stone. The blood is self explanatory, and you can see the stone next time you drive by Arlington.

Count the cost.

And then try to tell me that whatever Tumpsters think they are doing is anything even CLOSE.

Because it ain't.
Shameful bullshit against something sacred.
He should know better.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 30, 2023, 05:42:47 pm
Shameful bullshit against something sacred.
He should know better.

The only thing more shameful is hearing people defend it.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: LMAO on May 30, 2023, 07:01:20 pm
What the headline claims and what Trump said are two different things.

There is a bit of a mismatch between the two but he should have just stopped after his well wish for those who sacrificed
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: bigheadfred on May 30, 2023, 07:05:53 pm
There is a bit of a mismatch between the two but he should have just stopped after his well wish for those who sacrificed

True enough.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: LMAO on May 30, 2023, 07:06:15 pm
I think this 100 year old veteran would agree with and appreciate President Trump.:

"100 year old veteran breaks down in tears at what America has become   “The things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it’s all gone down the drain”. (Video)

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1663267058371444740

Unless I missed something, he never mentions Trump :shrug:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: GtHawk on May 30, 2023, 08:01:08 pm
Unless I missed something, he never mentions Trump :shrug:
The only thing you missed(probably not) was someone trying to link Trump to an actual hero, not just embarrassing but shameful **nononono*
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: corbe on May 30, 2023, 08:04:52 pm
   I'd bet Don Jr originally posted that vile on Trump Social.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 11:03:59 pm
True enough.

@LMAO   @bigheadfred

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTOBnAWcAEXxmB?format=jpg&name=small)

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President Trump's unedited words with proper punctuation (compared to that in the meme)

"Happy Memorial Day to all...but especially to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the country they love.

And to those in line of a very different, but equally dangerous fire (where you could give the ultimate sacrifice) stopping the threats of the terrorists, misfits and lunatic thugs who are working feverishly from within to overturn and destroy our once-great country

...which has never been in greater peril than it is right now??

We must stop the Communists, Marxists and Fascist 'Pigs" at every turn and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"



***************************************************

Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 30, 2023, 11:07:05 pm
I think this 100 year old veteran would agree with and appreciate President Trump.:

"100 year old veteran breaks down in tears at what America has become   “The things we did and the things we fought for and the boys that died for it, it’s all gone down the drain”. (Video)

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1663267058371444740

@Right_in_Virginia

For those of you who don't know,that medal on top of the other medals on his uniform is a Silver Star,which is an "Industrial Strength hero badge".

The US military does NOT hand these out casually. Trust me on this one.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 11:12:57 pm
I understand President Trump's rage.

Seeing our nation overrun & destroyed by the Anti-Christ O*ama.

Willing crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2024!

The words he chose are disconcerting because he's speaking of "Antifa" (Fascist Pigs) among the "Communists, Marxists..."

*******************************

Serious question...

In the event of an ongoing coup, where the DOJ and all the intelligence agencies have been politically corrupted...

What remedies are available to regain control of said Departments?

There HAS to be something!!   
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: bigheadfred on May 30, 2023, 11:15:30 pm
@DCPatriot

I don't have a problem with the message overall. But, I think he could have honored the fallen and left it there.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: DCPatriot on May 30, 2023, 11:22:00 pm
@DCPatriot

I don't have a problem with the message overall. But, I think he could have honored the fallen and left it there.

@bigheadfred

I totally agree. 

But the fact remains here....he NEVER compared himself or any active-duty military!

And it's damned embarrassing that it has to be pointed out to fellow GOP and INDY members/regulars on the forum.

Everybody needs to Grow.T.F.U.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: bigheadfred on May 30, 2023, 11:40:37 pm
@bigheadfred

I totally agree. 

But the fact remains here....he NEVER compared himself or any active-duty military!

And it's damned embarrassing that it has to be pointed out to fellow GOP and INDY members/regulars on the forum.

Everybody needs to Grow.T.F.U.

@DCPatriot

Yeah, I think the monkeys escaped the cage on this one.  :beer:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2023, 12:07:11 am
We must stop the Communists, Marxists and Fascist 'Pigs" at every turn and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

Who is "we" in the statement above, @DCPatriot - i.e. the ones he refers to with his campaign slogan?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 31, 2023, 12:51:07 am
I understand President Trump's rage.

Seeing our nation overrun & destroyed by the Anti-Christ O*ama.

Willing crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2024!

The words he chose are disconcerting because he's speaking of "Antifa" (Fascist Pigs) among the "Communists, Marxists..."

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Serious question...

In the event of an ongoing coup, where the DOJ and all the intelligence agencies have been politically corrupted...

What remedies are available to regain control of said Departments?

There HAS to be something!!

@DCPatriot

I don't enjoy writing it,but the word you are looking for is "Revolution".
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 31, 2023, 12:56:56 am
@DCPatriot

I don't have a problem with the message overall. But, I think he could have honored the fallen and left it there.

Always remember Trump is a Pu$$y.  The guy has never been in fight in his life.  If he ever stood up to a "Corn Pop" he would have told us.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 31, 2023, 01:59:28 am
Always remember Trump is a Pu$$y.  The guy has never been in fight in his life.  If he ever stood up to a "Corn Pop" he would have told us.

@Wingnut

So what?

How many valor awards have YOU received?

I am not going to vote for him to be a combat commander. I am going to vote for him in the hope that he stands up to the left,both those in the RNC as well as those in the DNC.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 31, 2023, 02:40:03 am
@Wingnut

So what?

How many valor awards have YOU received?

I am not going to vote for him to be a combat commander. I am going to vote for him in the hope that he stands up to the left,both those in the RNC as well as those in the DNC.

Vote for the Bone Spur draft dodger.  Bless your Nam serving heart.   
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Sighlass on May 31, 2023, 02:46:40 am
@Wingnut

So what?

How many valor awards have YOU received?

I am not going to vote for him to be a combat commander. I am going to vote for him in the hope that he stands up to the left,both those in the RNC as well as those in the DNC.

July 18, 2015, then-candidate Donald Trump said this about John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

As much as I disliked McCain, that was a freaking low blow to say. Bone Spur Trump is just a "Me Me Me" creep.

There is a slew of military folks that served that to me became traitors... (Kerry (in some fashion) and McCain).... For years there was that anti-war lady Cindy Sheehan that traveled the nation with a ex-Marine (Jimmy Massey) who told lie after lie by her side.

Thanks for your service Pete, but being in the military doesn't mean crap anymore (you say it yourself, when you said not going to vote for him to be a combat commander), it is still individual character that matters and draft dodging/cheating on your wives is fruit to judge. It is nice to have someone with some military background in case of war beyond what both Kerry and Clinton did...
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: cato potatoe on May 31, 2023, 03:11:28 am
I am not going to vote for him to be a combat commander. I am going to vote for him in the hope that he stands up to the left,both those in the RNC as well as those in the DNC.

He had four years to stand up to the left.  They ran circles around him.  His only victories?  Tax cuts which expire in a couple of years.  A few miles of fencing, overwhelmed by millions of illegals.  Court appointments which are being offset by Joe Biden's nominees, and will be rendered irrelevant in Biden's second term.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 31, 2023, 03:17:16 am
July 18, 2015, then-candidate Donald Trump said this about John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured.

That much is true. IF that hadn't been captured,he would only  be remembered for setting a carrier deck on fire and risk losing the  carrier.

I like people who weren’t captured.”

THAT was a damn-fool thing for anyone to say. I MUCH prefer people that were captured over people that were killed,and let's face it,if you were shot down over Hanoi,what were you going to do,take out your trusty 6-shot 38 special and fight off the NVA in their home town?

As much as I disliked McCain, that was a freaking low blow to say.

I agree.

Bone Spur Trump is just a "Me Me Me" creep.

And DeSantis and every  other career national politician isn't?

 being in the military doesn't mean crap anymore (you say it yourself, when you said not going to vote for him to be a combat commander), it is still individual character that matters and draft dodging/cheating on your wives is fruit to judge.

Draft dodging is one thing,and Trump is not guilty of draft-dodging,no  matter how  much  you  want it to be true.

As for character,and this applies to them ALL,not just Trump,you can NOT be a functioning president and have "clean hands". It just is not possible. The "character" comes in when a President is strong enough to do or say something that  NEEDS to be done or said,even IF he disagrees with it on moral grounds. Being a President is not about being a Saint. It is about protected and defending America and Americans to the best of your ability.

And to be honest,I SUSPECT this is why more than a few of the men we have wanted to run in the past have refused to run. They know what would be required of them,and they are not willing to do that.

 
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2023, 03:18:23 am
He had four years to stand up to the left.  They ran circles around him.  His only victories?  Tax cuts which expire in a couple of years.  A few miles of fencing, overwhelmed by millions of illegals.  Court appointments which are being offset by Joe Biden's nominees, and will be rendered irrelevant in Biden's second term.

The tax cuts he got from Paul Ryan.  The judicial appointments he got from Mitch McConnell.  The fence?  With a Republican House and Republican Senate, he couldn't manage to find a way to build anything even remotely representing what he promised.  With a four-year record of failing to deliver, there is no sane reason to expect anything different the next time around, especially considering that his rhetoric has shifted even further to the left from where it was in 2016.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 31, 2023, 03:18:49 am
He had four years to stand up to the left.  They ran circles around him.  His only victories?  Tax cuts which expire in a couple of years.  A few miles of fencing, overwhelmed by millions of illegals.  Court appointments which are being offset by Joe Biden's nominees, and will be rendered irrelevant in Biden's second term.

Trump is old news.  A hack. A loser. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: The_Reader_David on May 31, 2023, 03:19:12 am
What fight against the deep state?

Exactly.  If Trump was worth anything, he'd have cleaned house at the FBI, CIA and NSA.  If he were really in a fight against the deep state, he'd have pardoned Snowden and directed the prosecution of Assange to be stopped.  (Remember, Snowden wanted to end up in exile in Ecuador, not Russia.  He only got stranded in Russia because the Obama administration invalidated his passport while in transit, stranding him in the Moscow airport.  Of course, Putin took the propaganda coup and offered him asylum.  And which of you, if you found yourself stuck, probably for life, in another country because of the American government's animus against you, would not take an offer of dual citizenship?)
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 31, 2023, 03:21:24 am
Trump is old news.  A hack. A loser.

@Wingnut

Yet he is leading your boy by a YUGE amount.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2023, 03:26:26 am
Draft dodging is one thing,and Trump is not guilty of draft-dodging,no  matter how  much  you  want it to be true.

I agree with that.  The Democrats running the war at the time gave him an out.  He took it.  Can't fault him for that.  That's simply how they did things.  Affluence bought you advantages.  That's how they've operated since 1836.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 31, 2023, 03:27:43 am
@Wingnut

Yet he is leading your boy by a YUGE amount.

My boy has not been determined.  But you keep leg humping Trump. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Wingnut on May 31, 2023, 03:39:42 am
Answer this @sneakypete   Would you want Private Trump in a foxhole with you in a fire fight?  Would you trust him to save your ass?
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on May 31, 2023, 04:09:12 am
I agree with that.  The Democrats running the war at the time gave him an out.  He took it.  Can't fault him for that.  That's simply how they did things. Affluence bought you advantages. That's how they've operated since 1836.

@Hoodat

BullBush!

My father got an draft exemption,and he probably  didn't have enough cash on him to buy a pack of cigarettes.

I personally know people my own age that got draft exemptions for a variety of reasons.

And I didn't give a  squat. I didn't want anybody that I had to depend on to not want to be there.

Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: Sighlass on June 01, 2023, 04:27:09 am
I agree with that.  The Democrats running the war at the time gave him an out.  He took it.  Can't fault him for that.  That's simply how they did things.  Affluence bought you advantages.  That's how they've operated since 1836.

Trump said he didn't remember the "doctor" that gave him the "bone spurs" out... I bet money/promises were exchanged. @Hoodat

I still have the picture of my mom/grandmother kissing my Uncle as he went to Vietnam... Grandmother went chasing the plane, it stopped and my Uncle leaned out the door and threw grandmother her car keys that was forgotten.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: catfish1957 on June 01, 2023, 04:33:36 am
Trump is old news.  A hack. A loser.

Captain of the Bone Spur Brigade.....   :beer:
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: sneakypete on June 01, 2023, 10:40:25 pm
Captain of the Bone Spur Brigade.....   :beer:

@catfish1957

Yet the whining about "Rude Orange Man" never seems to stop.
Title: Re: Donald Trump says his fight against deep state ‘equally dangerous’ to what soldiers face
Post by: catfish1957 on June 02, 2023, 02:29:32 am
@catfish1957

Yet the whining about "Rude Orange Man" never seems to stop.

No whining on my part, just an astute observation that Trump is a piece of shit.