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Ron DeSantis rips Trump's character, chaotic leadership style
Piers Morgan
10–12 minutes
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has finally taken the gloves off and launched a blistering attack on his former mentor President Donald Trump.
In an exclusive wide-ranging interview with me airing on Fox Nation’s “Piers Morgan Uncensored” on Thursday, he said “stay tuned” about his widely expected announcement that he’s running for president and declared: I have what it takes to be president and I can beat Biden.
But it’s what he said about Trump that will ignite a firestorm in the Republican Party.
For months, DeSantis has said nothing as Trump’s escalated his verbal attacks on him, branding his ex-protégé “Ron DeSanctimonious” and “Meatball Ron.”
On Monday, Trump went nuts after DeSantis took a shot at him over his anticipated indictment over alleged payoffs to ex-lover Stormy Daniels, saying, “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.”
The inferred morally censorious tone sparked a furious response from Trump, who raged on his own Truth Social platform: “Ron DeSanctimonious will probably find out about FALSE ACCUSATIONS & FAKE STORIES sometime in the future, as he gets older, wiser and better known when he’s unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are ‘underage’ (or possibly a man!). I’m sure he will want to fight these misfits just like I do!”
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https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/ron-desantis-opens-fire-on-trumps-character-chaotic-style/
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has finally taken the gloves off and launched a blistering attack on his former mentor President Donald Trump.
In an exclusive wide-ranging interview with me airing on Fox Nation’s “Piers Morgan Uncensored” on Thursday, he said “stay tuned” about his widely expected announcement that he’s running for president and declared: I have what it takes to be president and I can beat Biden.
But it’s what he said about Trump that will ignite a firestorm in the Republican Party.
Read More: https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/ron-desantis-opens-fire-on-trumps-character-chaotic-style/
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I’m all for it. Trump had his time and that time is now passed. DeSantis is a proven winner and an outstanding executive. He’ll have my support.
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Piers Morgan's characterization of DeSantis' comments is quite an exaggeration. He didn't exactly "open fire." He made a few pointed remarks, granted, but it wasn't with the bluster Morgan implied.
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Selfishly, I was hoping the Ron would stay our governor.
Also, not looking forward to a repeat of Trump's mudslinging. 888mouth
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DeSantis used more mild language than the headline suggests, but it's clear that he intends to run, and that he won't back down from Trump.
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@Right_in_Virginia please pick up the white courtesy phone. :yowsa:
It looks like DeSantis is IN THE RACE. Yeah baby!
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I’m all for it. Trump had his time and that time is now passed. DeSantis is a proven winner and an outstanding executive. He’ll have my support.
I am going to listen to what Ron DeSantis has to say before I get on the “sanctimonious train.”
His record in Congress is pretty conservative, especially on the spending, which is gonna be the most important issue facing us
If he runs, ultimately, he needs to run as the “happy warrior” as Reagan did. I fully expect that Trump is looking for an unflattering picture of DeSantis’s sick wife as we speak.
Nonetheless, it’s going to get nasty
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I am going to listen to what Ron DeSantis has to say before I get on the “sanctimonious train.”
His record in Congress is pretty conservative, especially on the spending, which is gonna be the most important issue facing us
If he runs, ultimately, he needs to run as the “happy warrior” as Reagan did. I fully expect that Trump is looking for an unflattering picture of DeSantis’s sick wife as we speak.
It won't take long for Trump's true colors to come shining through. At least we know DeSantis's father didn't kill JFK. happy77
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Selfishly, I was hoping the Ron would stay our governor.
Also, not looking forward to a repeat of Trump's mudslinging. 888mouth
He might very well stay Governor. He's just tired of the false accusations and character assassination and pushed back...hard.
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He might very well stay Governor. He's just tired of the false accusations and character assassination and pushed back...hard.
Right
I think some folks jumped the gun a little bit
But I think the loyalty demands and hinting that Ron DeSantis is a groomer of some type would probably be too much for anybody to take without responding
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@Right_in_Virginia please pick up the white courtesy phone. :yowsa:
It looks like DeSantis is IN THE RACE. Yeah baby!
Then the governor is breaking Florida law ---- proving again how little the rule of law means to Meatball :shrug:
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The headline is sensational. But I'm looking forward to Donald's next semiliterate ALLCAPS meltdown. What's he going to allude to this time, bestiality?
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"Intending to run" is not the same as "is now running", as everyone who watched Trump's own flirtation with the exact moment he would declare officially already knows.
Florida law will have to be changed before DeSantis declares formally unless he wants to give up the governorship.
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"Intending to run" is not the same as "is now running", as everyone who watched Trump's own flirtation with the exact moment he would declare officially already knows.
Florida law will have to be changed before DeSantis declares formally unless he wants to give up the governorship.
He has a full majority in both Houses, I think it could be done.
I'm still not so sure he wants to run.
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Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.
6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
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Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.
6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
It depends on how Trump handles this. It's a sure bet it won't be good.
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Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.
6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
Who gave Ron DeSantis that advice or who it was that misled him to believe that he would have an opening if Donald Trump got indicted? This individual seems to want to keep that info to himself
Beside, anybody in the Republican Party has an opening, whether or not Donald Trump’s there or not. Trump and his supporters have got to get over their belief that he is owed this. Hillary Clinton had the same belief. Must be a New York thing.
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Yeah, I don't understand the argument about possible indictments either. I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win. So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis. DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.
I also think DeSantis is naturally competitive - captain of baseball team, conservative going to Harvard, and Navy JAG who got some.of the more intense/interesting assignments. I think he likes the idea of battling Trump.
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Yeah, I don't understand the argument about possible indictments either. I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win. So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis. DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.
I also think DeSantis is naturally competitive - captain of baseball team, conservative going to Harvard, and Navy JAG who got some.of the more intense/interesting assignments. I think he likes the idea of battling Trump.
If the likes of Rand Paul, Noem, Abbott got into the race or were touted as possible nominees for the GOP presidential nomination for 2024, Trump, and his supporters, would be behaving the same way. All the above would become “globalist RINOs controlled by Jeb Bush.”
They would all become homosexual groomers
This is the strangest nomination process I’ve ever seen. Usually other candidates don’t react this way to other contenders. That doesn’t mean there isn’t fights over policy and records. But they don’t have infantile meltdowns
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What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.
Urge to ping is great, must resist.
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What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.
Urge to ping is great, must resist.
It's "crowd" envy. *****rollingeyes*****
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I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win. So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis. DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.
Ron should prepare to be disappointed :laugh:
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What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.
Urge to ping is great, must resist.
What would you like --- @Sighlass ?
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What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.
Urge to ping is great, must resist.
No need to ping
The name “Ron DeSantis” is so triggering for them, that they can find any thread from miles away that mentions his name
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It's "crowd" envy. *****rollingeyes*****
I sure pricked a nerve with that, didn't I @libertybele 88devil
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What would you like --- @Sighlass ?
I would like the option to vote for someone (and feel good about it) instead of adding their name under my header.
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No need to ping
The name “Ron DeSantis” is so triggering for them, that they can find any thread from miles away that mentions his name
The usual comments promise to be entertaining---- and rarely disappoint. Can't thank you enough. happy77
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I would like the option to vote for someone (and feel good about it) instead of adding their name under my header.
@Sighlass My question was what's the outcome you would like specific to the post I was responding to. Here it is again, if you've forgotten: (Still interested in knowing, if you care to share)
What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.
Urge to ping is great, must resist.
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Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.
6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
:mauslaff:
Clear only to a Trump worshipper, perhaps.
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Then the governor is breaking Florida law ---- proving again how little the rule of law means to Meatball :shrug:
Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.
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Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.
What are you taking about? @Free Vulcan The federal election commission looked at this for nearly two years, declined to file charges and dropped it.
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What are you taking about? @Free Vulcan The federal election commission looked at this for nearly two years, declined to file charges and dropped it.
If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.
Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.
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The headlines are promotional click bait for the "exclusive" interview to be aired later.
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If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.
Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.
You gotta realize Trump has his Stone/Pecker sleaze machine already in preemptive strike mode.
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If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.
Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.
What makes you think RDS hasn't? @Free Vulcan
Campaigning
Certain activities, however, indicate an individual has decided to become a candidate and is no longer testing the waters. In that case, once the individual has raised or spent more than $5,000, the individual must register as a candidate.
Campaigning (as opposed to testing the waters) is apparent, for example, when:
*Raise more money than what is reasonably needed to test the waters or funds to be used after candidacy is established;
*Conduct activities over a protracted period of time
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/testing-the-waters-possible-candidacy/
The group, Make America Great Again Inc., is filing a complaint with the Florida Commission on Ethics alleging that the combined force of pro-DeSantis super PACs, state-level political contributions and the governor’s “personally lucrative book tour” amounts to a de facto White House bid.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3901368-trump-allied-super-pac-files-ethics-complaint-against-desantis-over-shadow-presidential-campaign/
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What makes you think RDS hasn't? @Free Vulcan
He needs some kind of campaign committee to raise money. He has formed none.
And outside groups can reinterpret and do an end run around the law however they want, unless they can trick a body like the Ethics commission to do that also, DeSantis is still not a candidate.
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He needs some kind of campaign committee to raise money.
DeSantis, himself, meets directly with his PACs, solicites their advice, hires their staff and accepts their money. He IS the committee @Free Vulcan
Not only is he well beyond the "testing the waters" fund raising, but campaigning, too ---- now giving the media advance notice of upcoming events --- another indication, according to the FEC, that DeSantis needs to file his candidacy with them.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr1OE3OaMAASzSC?format=jpg&name=small)
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What makes you think RDS hasn't? @Free Vulcan
Trump just can't stop whining....
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Trump just can't stop whining....
What's DeSantis skirting FEC regulations to do with President Trump @mrpotatohead ?
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DeSantis, himself, meets directly with his PACs, solicites their advice, hires their staff and accepts their money. He IS the committee @Free Vulcan
He's also well beyond the "testing the waters" fund raising and campaigning ---- now giving the media advance notice of upcoming events --- another indication, according to the FEC, that DeSantis needs to file his candidacy with them.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr1OE3OaMAASzSC?format=jpg&name=small)
Trump and supporters can use woke logic and believe their legal fictions all they want, but none of it is legal reality.
DeSantis has not met the legal threshold to be declared a candidate.
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DeSantis has not met the legal threshold to be declared a candidate.
According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.
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According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.
Cite please.
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According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.
Oh, look, the shill for the Orange Shitshow is devolving into name-calling, yet again.
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Beside, anybody in the Republican Party has an opening, whether or not Donald Trump’s there or not. Trump and his supporters have got to get over their belief that he is owed this. Hillary Clinton had the same belief. Must be a New York thing.
Well at bare minimum they will have to get used to hearing critiques of Trump's record while the legal process unfolds. It's not as if this will end soon. The other investigations may progress to charges which are tougher to defend, and trials that drag into the general election. Jonathan Turley thinks he may have some exposure in the Mar-a-Lago case (obstruction of justice).
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Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.
888high58888
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I sure pricked a nerve with that, didn't I @libertybele 88devil
Picked a nerve @Right_in_Virginia ? Hardly. In the context that you used it, it didn't make sense. Personally, I find it hilarious.
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Cite please.
I did. Read, please.
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I did. Read, please.
None of which is any proof that he's crossed those thresholds.
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Oh, look, the shill for the Orange Shitshow is devolving into name-calling, yet again.
That post deserves a thread of its own:
Kamaji Speaks
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That post deserves a thread of its own:
Kamaji Speaks
@bigheadfred Where the heck have you been? Good to see you back.
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That post deserves a thread of its own:
Kamaji Speaks
@bigheadfred
Were it up to me, I'd avoid all name-calling whatsoever; I don't think it adds much to the discussion; however, if Trump's supporters want to start playing stupid name games, there's plenty to go around for Mr. Trump.
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What's DeSantis skirting FEC regulations to do with President Trump @mrpotatohead ?
When you talk to your boss, see if he won't tone it down a bit.
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@bigheadfred
Were it up to me, I'd avoid all name-calling whatsoever; I don't think it adds much to the discussion; however, if Trump's supporters want to start playing stupid name games, there's plenty to go around for Mr. Trump.
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Demonizing politicians is all in good fun. A necessity, IMO.
Other Briefers, not so much.
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Demonizing politicians is all in good fun. A necessity, IMO.
Other Briefers, not so much.
And my reference was to Mr. Trump.
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And my reference was to Mr. Trump.
And mine was to Mr. DeSantis @Kamaji
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And mine was to Mr. DeSantis @Kamaji
I never said it wasn't. But if you're going to play childish name-calling games with Mr. DeSantis, then I'll refer to Mr. Trump as the Orange Shitshow.