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Title: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: mystery-ak on March 21, 2023, 10:40:55 pm
Ron DeSantis rips Trump's character, chaotic leadership style
Piers Morgan
10–12 minutes

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has finally taken the gloves off and launched a blistering attack on his former mentor President Donald Trump.

In an exclusive wide-ranging interview with me airing on Fox Nation’s “Piers Morgan Uncensored” on Thursday, he said “stay tuned” about his widely expected announcement that he’s running for president and declared: I have what it takes to be president and I can beat Biden.

But it’s what he said about Trump that will ignite a firestorm in the Republican Party.

For months, DeSantis has said nothing as Trump’s escalated his verbal attacks on him, branding his ex-protégé “Ron DeSanctimonious” and “Meatball Ron.”

On Monday, Trump went nuts after DeSantis took a shot at him over his anticipated indictment over alleged payoffs to ex-lover Stormy Daniels, saying, “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.”

The inferred morally censorious tone sparked a furious response from Trump, who raged on his own Truth Social platform: “Ron DeSanctimonious will probably find out about FALSE ACCUSATIONS & FAKE STORIES sometime in the future, as he gets older, wiser and better known when he’s unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are ‘underage’ (or possibly a man!). I’m sure he will want to fight these misfits just like I do!”

more
https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/ron-desantis-opens-fire-on-trumps-character-chaotic-style/
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: kevindavis007 on March 21, 2023, 10:47:26 pm

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has finally taken the gloves off and launched a blistering attack on his former mentor President Donald Trump.

In an exclusive wide-ranging interview with me airing on Fox Nation’s “Piers Morgan Uncensored” on Thursday, he said “stay tuned” about his widely expected announcement that he’s running for president and declared: I have what it takes to be president and I can beat Biden.

But it’s what he said about Trump that will ignite a firestorm in the Republican Party.

Read More: https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/ron-desantis-opens-fire-on-trumps-character-chaotic-style/
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: ScottinVA on March 21, 2023, 10:51:23 pm
I’m all for it.  Trump had his time and that time is now passed.  DeSantis is a proven winner and an outstanding executive.  He’ll have my support.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: mountaineer on March 21, 2023, 10:55:55 pm
Piers Morgan's characterization of DeSantis' comments is quite an exaggeration. He didn't exactly "open fire." He made a few pointed remarks, granted, but it wasn't with the bluster Morgan implied.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: libertybele on March 21, 2023, 10:57:25 pm
Selfishly, I was hoping the Ron would stay our governor.

Also, not looking forward to a repeat of Trump's mudslinging. 888mouth
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 21, 2023, 10:58:31 pm
DeSantis used more mild language than the headline suggests, but it's clear that he intends to run, and that he won't back down from Trump.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 21, 2023, 11:07:02 pm
@Right_in_Virginia please pick up the white courtesy phone.   :yowsa:

It looks like DeSantis is IN THE RACE.  Yeah baby!
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: LMAO on March 21, 2023, 11:07:34 pm
I’m all for it.  Trump had his time and that time is now passed.  DeSantis is a proven winner and an outstanding executive.  He’ll have my support.

I am going to listen to what Ron DeSantis has to say before I get on the “sanctimonious train.”

His record in Congress is pretty conservative, especially on the spending, which is gonna be the most important issue facing us

If he runs, ultimately, he needs to run as the “happy warrior” as Reagan did. I fully expect that Trump is looking for an unflattering picture of DeSantis’s sick wife as we speak.


Nonetheless, it’s going to get nasty
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 21, 2023, 11:09:40 pm
I am going to listen to what Ron DeSantis has to say before I get on the “sanctimonious train.”

His record in Congress is pretty conservative, especially on the spending, which is gonna be the most important issue facing us

If he runs, ultimately, he needs to run as the “happy warrior” as Reagan did. I fully expect that Trump is looking for an unflattering picture of DeSantis’s sick wife as we speak.
It won't take long for Trump's true colors to come shining through.  At least we know DeSantis's father didn't kill JFK.  happy77
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: txradioguy on March 21, 2023, 11:12:08 pm
Selfishly, I was hoping the Ron would stay our governor.

Also, not looking forward to a repeat of Trump's mudslinging. 888mouth

He might very well stay Governor.  He's just tired of the false accusations and character assassination and pushed back...hard.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: LMAO on March 21, 2023, 11:15:28 pm
He might very well stay Governor.  He's just tired of the false accusations and character assassination and pushed back...hard.

Right

I think some folks jumped the gun a little bit

But I think the loyalty demands and hinting that Ron DeSantis is a groomer of some type would probably be too much for anybody to take without responding
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 21, 2023, 11:39:37 pm
@Right_in_Virginia please pick up the white courtesy phone.   :yowsa:

It looks like DeSantis is IN THE RACE.  Yeah baby!

Then the governor is breaking Florida law ---- proving again how little the rule of law means to Meatball   :shrug:



Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: cato potatoe on March 21, 2023, 11:41:10 pm
The headline is sensational.  But I'm looking forward to Donald's next semiliterate ALLCAPS meltdown.  What's he going to allude to this time, bestiality? 
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 21, 2023, 11:44:09 pm
"Intending to run" is not the same as "is now running", as everyone who watched Trump's own flirtation with the exact moment he would declare officially already knows.

Florida law will have to be changed before DeSantis declares formally unless he wants to give up the governorship.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: libertybele on March 22, 2023, 01:06:00 am
"Intending to run" is not the same as "is now running", as everyone who watched Trump's own flirtation with the exact moment he would declare officially already knows.

Florida law will have to be changed before DeSantis declares formally unless he wants to give up the governorship.

He has a full majority in both Houses, I think it could be done.

I'm still not so sure he wants to run. 
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 01:28:06 am
Robert Barnes
@barnes_law

It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.

6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 22, 2023, 01:41:07 am
Robert Barnes
@barnes_law

It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.

6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023
It depends on how Trump handles this.  It's a sure bet it won't be good.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: LMAO on March 22, 2023, 01:42:50 am
Robert Barnes
@barnes_law

It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.

6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023



Who gave Ron DeSantis that advice or who it was that misled  him to believe that he would have an opening if Donald Trump got indicted? This individual seems to want to keep that info to himself

Beside, anybody in the Republican Party has an opening, whether or not Donald Trump’s there or not. Trump and his supporters have got to get over their belief that he is owed this. Hillary Clinton had the same belief. Must be a New York thing.

Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 22, 2023, 01:55:28 am
Yeah, I don't understand the argument about possible indictments either.  I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win.  So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis.  DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.

I also think DeSantis is naturally competitive - captain of baseball team, conservative going to Harvard, and Navy JAG who got some.of the more intense/interesting assignments.  I think he likes the idea of battling Trump.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: LMAO on March 22, 2023, 02:06:01 am
Yeah, I don't understand the argument about possible indictments either.  I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win.  So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis.  DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.

I also think DeSantis is naturally competitive - captain of baseball team, conservative going to Harvard, and Navy JAG who got some.of the more intense/interesting assignments.  I think he likes the idea of battling Trump.

If the likes of Rand Paul, Noem, Abbott got into the race or were touted as possible nominees for the GOP presidential nomination for 2024, Trump, and his supporters, would be behaving the same way. All the above would become “globalist RINOs controlled by Jeb Bush.”

They would all become homosexual groomers

This is the strangest nomination process I’ve ever seen. Usually other candidates don’t react this way to other contenders. That doesn’t mean there isn’t fights over policy and records. But they don’t have infantile meltdowns
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Sighlass on March 22, 2023, 02:27:29 am
What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.

Urge to ping is great, must resist.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: libertybele on March 22, 2023, 02:31:23 am
What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.

Urge to ping is great, must resist.
It's "crowd" envy. *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 02:31:58 am
Quote
I think what this comes down to is that there are a lot of Republicans who believe Trump 1) can't win and/or 2) doesn't deserve to win.  So, those people wanted an alternative, and asked DeSantis.  DeSantis may share one or both of those opinions, and bieves that he's got the best shot.

Ron should prepare to be disappointed   :laugh:
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 02:36:14 am
What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.

Urge to ping is great, must resist.

What would you like ---  @Sighlass ?
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: LMAO on March 22, 2023, 02:37:19 am
What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.

Urge to ping is great, must resist.

No need to ping
The name “Ron DeSantis” is so triggering for them, that they can find any thread from miles away that mentions his name
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 02:45:30 am
It's "crowd" envy. *****rollingeyes*****

I sure pricked a nerve with that, didn't I @libertybele    88devil
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Sighlass on March 22, 2023, 02:47:01 am
What would you like ---  @Sighlass ?

I would like the option to vote for someone (and feel good about it) instead of adding their name under my header.

Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 02:50:29 am
No need to ping
The name “Ron DeSantis” is so triggering for them, that they can find any thread from miles away that mentions his name

The usual comments promise to be entertaining---- and rarely disappoint.  Can't thank you enough.  happy77
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 03:01:04 am
I would like the option to vote for someone (and feel good about it) instead of adding their name under my header.

@Sighlass   My question was what's the outcome you would like specific to the post I was responding to.  Here it is again, if you've forgotten: (Still interested in knowing, if you care to share)

What this thread needs is some Tiny D comments... maybe a few Rude Orange Billionaire envy comments too.

Urge to ping is great, must resist.

Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Kamaji on March 22, 2023, 08:59:43 am
Robert Barnes
@barnes_law

It's increasingly clear #DeSantis was led to believe a Trump indictment would derail Trump's campaign & be the perfect opening for his own. This was very bad advice.

6:42 PM · Mar 21, 2023

:mauslaff:

Clear only to a Trump worshipper, perhaps. 
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 11:42:57 am
Then the governor is breaking Florida law ---- proving again how little the rule of law means to Meatball   :shrug:

Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 01:10:50 pm
Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.

What are you taking about?  @Free Vulcan  The federal election commission looked at this for nearly two years, declined to file charges and dropped it.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 01:12:43 pm
What are you taking about?  @Free Vulcan  The federal election commission looked at this for nearly two years, declined to file charges and dropped it.

If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.

Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on March 22, 2023, 01:56:45 pm
The headlines are promotional click bait for the "exclusive" interview to be aired later.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: catfish1957 on March 22, 2023, 01:58:02 pm
If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.

Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.

You gotta realize Trump has his Stone/Pecker sleaze machine already in preemptive strike mode.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 02:15:33 pm
If you want to be in politics, you might want to figure out how things work first.

Ron DeSantis is not a Presidential candidate till he meets FEC thresholds.

What makes you think RDS hasn't?  @Free Vulcan

Quote
Campaigning

Certain activities, however, indicate an individual has decided to become a candidate and is no longer testing the waters. In that case, once the individual has raised or spent more than $5,000, the individual must register as a candidate.

Campaigning (as opposed to testing the waters) is apparent, for example, when:

*Raise more money than what is reasonably needed to test the waters or funds to be used after candidacy is established;
*Conduct activities over a protracted period of time

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-candidate/testing-the-waters-possible-candidacy/

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The group, Make America Great Again Inc., is filing a complaint with the Florida Commission on Ethics alleging that the combined force of pro-DeSantis super PACs, state-level political contributions and the governor’s “personally lucrative book tour” amounts to a de facto White House bid.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3901368-trump-allied-super-pac-files-ethics-complaint-against-desantis-over-shadow-presidential-campaign/




Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 02:21:36 pm
What makes you think RDS hasn't?  @Free Vulcan

He needs some kind of campaign committee to raise money. He has formed none.

And outside groups can reinterpret and do an end run around the law however they want, unless they can trick a body like the Ethics commission to do that also, DeSantis is still not a candidate.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 03:12:57 pm
He needs some kind of campaign committee to raise money.


DeSantis, himself, meets directly with his PACs, solicites their advice, hires their staff and accepts their money.   He IS the committee @Free Vulcan

Not only is he well beyond the "testing the waters" fund raising, but campaigning, too ---- now giving the media advance notice of upcoming events --- another indication, according to the FEC, that DeSantis needs to file his candidacy with them.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr1OE3OaMAASzSC?format=jpg&name=small)









Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 22, 2023, 03:13:37 pm
What makes you think RDS hasn't?  @Free Vulcan
Trump just can't stop whining....
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 03:17:25 pm
Trump just can't stop whining....

What's DeSantis skirting FEC regulations to do with President Trump @mrpotatohead  ?
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 03:17:30 pm


DeSantis, himself, meets directly with his PACs, solicites their advice, hires their staff and accepts their money.   He IS the committee @Free Vulcan

He's also well beyond the "testing the waters" fund raising and campaigning ---- now giving the media advance notice of upcoming events --- another indication, according to the FEC, that DeSantis needs to file his candidacy with them.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr1OE3OaMAASzSC?format=jpg&name=small)

Trump and supporters can use woke logic and believe their legal fictions all they want, but none of it is legal reality.

DeSantis has not met the legal threshold to be declared a candidate.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 03:21:01 pm
DeSantis has not met the legal threshold to be declared a candidate.

According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.




Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 03:25:25 pm
According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.

Cite please.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Kamaji on March 22, 2023, 03:27:33 pm
According to the FEC Regulations, DeSanctus has surpassed the threshold multiple times.






Oh, look, the shill for the Orange Shitshow is devolving into name-calling, yet again.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: cato potatoe on March 22, 2023, 03:38:53 pm
Beside, anybody in the Republican Party has an opening, whether or not Donald Trump’s there or not. Trump and his supporters have got to get over their belief that he is owed this. Hillary Clinton had the same belief. Must be a New York thing.

Well at bare minimum they will have to get used to hearing critiques of Trump's record while the legal process unfolds.  It's not as if this will end soon.  The other investigations may progress to charges which are tougher to defend, and trials that drag into the general election.  Jonathan Turley thinks he may have some exposure in the Mar-a-Lago case (obstruction of justice).
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: libertybele on March 22, 2023, 03:48:57 pm
Not according to the FEC, not until there's some official filing. But that's the typical Trump approach - all bluster and blowhard, little facts.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: libertybele on March 22, 2023, 03:50:32 pm
I sure pricked a nerve with that, didn't I @libertybele    88devil

Picked a nerve @Right_in_Virginia ? Hardly. In the context that you used it, it didn't make sense.  Personally, I find it hilarious.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 04:03:44 pm
Cite please.

I did.  Read, please.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 22, 2023, 04:08:55 pm
I did.  Read, please.

None of which is any proof that he's crossed those thresholds.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: bigheadfred on March 22, 2023, 04:13:48 pm
Oh, look, the shill for the Orange Shitshow is devolving into name-calling, yet again.

That post deserves a thread of its own:

Kamaji Speaks

Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 22, 2023, 06:43:11 pm
That post deserves a thread of its own:

Kamaji Speaks
@bigheadfred Where the heck have you been?  Good to see you back.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Kamaji on March 22, 2023, 06:44:50 pm
That post deserves a thread of its own:

Kamaji Speaks



@bigheadfred
Were it up to me, I'd avoid all name-calling whatsoever; I don't think it adds much to the discussion; however, if Trump's supporters want to start playing stupid name games, there's plenty to go around for Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Idiot on March 22, 2023, 06:44:59 pm
What's DeSantis skirting FEC regulations to do with President Trump @mrpotatohead  ?
When you talk to your boss, see if he won't tone it down a bit.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: bigheadfred on March 22, 2023, 07:05:01 pm
@bigheadfred
Were it up to me, I'd avoid all name-calling whatsoever; I don't think it adds much to the discussion; however, if Trump's supporters want to start playing stupid name games, there's plenty to go around for Mr. Trump.
.

Demonizing politicians is all in good fun. A necessity, IMO.

Other Briefers, not so much.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Kamaji on March 22, 2023, 07:13:57 pm
.

Demonizing politicians is all in good fun. A necessity, IMO.

Other Briefers, not so much.

And my reference was to Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 22, 2023, 07:30:18 pm
And my reference was to Mr. Trump.

And mine was to Mr. DeSantis @Kamaji
Title: Re: Ron DeSantis rips Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style By Piers Morgan
Post by: Kamaji on March 22, 2023, 08:09:27 pm
And mine was to Mr. DeSantis @Kamaji

I never said it wasn't.  But if you're going to play childish name-calling games with Mr. DeSantis, then I'll refer to Mr. Trump as the Orange Shitshow.