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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: mystery-ak on January 20, 2023, 02:11:52 am
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Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
Pam Key 19 Jan 2023
Former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, said Thursday on FNC’s “Special Report” that she believes she could be the new leader America needs when asked about a potential 2024 presidential run.
Anchor Bret Baier asked, “When do you make a decision if you are going to run for president?”
Haley said, “Well, I’m not going to make an announcement here, but when you’re looking at a run for president, you look at two things. You first look at ‘does the current situation push for new leadership?’ The second question is, ‘am I that person that could be that new leader?’ Yes, we need to go in a new direction. And can I be that leader? Yes, I think I can be that leader. I was — as governor, I took on a hurting state with double-digit unemployment, and we made it the beast of the southeast. As ambassador, I took on the world when they tried to disrespect us, and I think I showed what I’m capable of at the United Nations. So, do I think I could be that leader? Yes, but we are still working through things, and we’ll figure it out. I’ve never lost a race. I said that then, I still say that now. I’m not going to lose now, but stay tuned.”
Baier said, “It sounds like you’re close. It sounds. Are we getting to the exploratory committee stage here?”
Haley replied, “I think. Stay tuned.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/01/19/nikki-haley-on-2024-i-can-be-the-new-leader-america-needs/
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What?
Mike Pompeo says Nikki Haley plotted with Ivanka, Jared to become vice president
By Mark Moore
January 19, 2023 1:10pm
Nikki Haley schemed with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump to become then-President Donald Trump’s No. 2 — even while she was serving as the 45th president’s ambassador to the United Nations, ex-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo relates in his forthcoming book.
Pompeo writes in “Never Give an Inch,” an excerpt of which was obtained by the Guardian, that Haley “played” John Kelly — then the White House chief of staff — by showing up to a supposed one-on-one Oval Office meeting with Trump with the president’s daughter and son-in-law in tow.
“As best Kelly could tell, they were presenting a possible ‘Haley for vice-president’ option,” Pompeo writes. “I can’t confirm this, but [Kelly] was certain he had been played, and he was not happy about it. Clearly, this visit did not reflect a team effort but undermined our work for America.” ...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2023/01/19/pompeo-says-haley-plotted-with-ivanka-and-jared-to-become-veep/)
Knives are out, I guess.
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Nikki, no you can't.
Leaders lead by example and action ... not by saying they "can" be something or someone they already aren't.
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The reality is that she'd be a major contender if she did run. Obviously, some folks are mad at her because of the flag controversy in South Carolina, but that will help her more than hurt her outside the south. But she's female, comes across as having some substance - unlike Kamala - and would be someone around whom Trump opponents might rally. Of course, she might just end up splitting that vote with DeSantis.
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Sorry...
But it is my conservative duty to bring up on every Haley thread to remind everyone that she was a "pioneer woke" law maker as Guv in SC.
She was tearing down flags and statues before it became fashionable. (2014-2015)
She is the singular one GOP candiate that will force me to vote 3rd Party if she is the nominee. to hell with the bitch.
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The reality is that she'd be a major contender if she did run. Obviously, some folks are mad at her because of the flag controversy in South Carolina, but that will help her more than hurt her outside the south. But she's female, comes across as having some substance - unlike Kamala - and would be someone around whom Trump opponents might rally. Of course, she might just end up splitting that vote with DeSantis.
I believe the "wokeness" will actually work against her nation wide. 2020 is vivid and etched in every conservative's mindset.
I know will do everything in my power to doom her chances.
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I believe the "wokeness" will actually work against her nation wide. 2020 is vivid and etched in every conservative's mindset.
I know will do everything in my power to doom her chances.
I think "wokeness" isn't black and white. I mean, you're going to find a lot more people who think that flying the confederate flag is not right, than you will people who think biological males swinging their junk around in girls' locker rooms is okay.
Personally, I think taking down statutes of confederate war heroes is wrong. But I also ascribe to "we won, you lost, so quit flying the rebel flag" school of thought. You can argue about that if you wish, but the point is that just tossing all of that into the bag of "wokeness", as if it is all the same, isn't how most people actually think about this stuff.
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I think "wokeness" isn't black and white. I mean, you're going to find a lot more people who think that flying the confederate flag is not right, than you will people who think biological males swinging their junk around in girls' locker rooms is okay.
Personally, I think taking down statutes of confederate war heroes is wrong. But I also ascribe to "we won, you lost, so quit flying the rebel flag" school of thought. You can argue about that if you wish, but the point is that just tossing all of that into the bag of "wokeness", as if it is all the same, isn't how most people actually think about this stuff.
At least in my case my inclusion of a rebel flag as my screen icon is not a win or lose issue of what happened 1861-1865. It is an effort on my behalf to support and protect the heritage of my ancestors who showed great bravery and valor. A few died in battle, like at Shiloh and Wilson's Creek.
Letting woke liberals piss on that, angers me more than almost anything else I see from these disgusting socialist. Nikki has not helped, and I will leave it at that, except the fact she should expect the wrath of like minded people like myself.
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Wokeness is more bleeding-heart limousine liberal pablum puke that accomplishes nothing. It just makes very privileged people feel that their poop doesn't stink.
What is being done to address income disparities?
What is being done to address education disparities?
What is being done to address healthcare disparities?
What is being done to address technological disparities?
What is being done to address opportunity disparities?
A person's potential should not be stifled because he or she lives in the wrong zip code.
Wasted talent is a sin. Letting talent go to waste is a sin against God and our fellow man.
Dragqueen story hours will not help the urban and rural poor who lack access to highspeed broadband Internet access.
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Wokeness is more bleeding-heart limousine liberal pablum puke that accomplishes nothing. It just makes very privileged people feel that their poop doesn't stink.
What is being done to address income disparities?
What is being done to address education disparities?
What is being done to address healthcare disparities?
What is being done to address technological disparities?
What is being done to address opportunity disparities?
A person's potential should not be stifled because he or she lives in the wrong zip code.
Wasted talent is a sin. Letting talent go to waste is a sin against God and our fellow man.
Dragqueen story hours will not help the urban and rural poor who lack access to highspeed broadband Internet access.
I see it more of a political pandering tool that in the hands of RINOS can alienate their base. Why borrow failed dim practices?
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I believe the "wokeness" will actually work against her nation wide. 2020 is vivid and etched in every conservative's mindset.
I know will do everything in my power to doom her chances.
Rest easy. She won't take the South, and she won't take the West, And without the South or the West, she won't take any.
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I mean, you're going to find a lot more people who think that flying the confederate flag is not right, [...]
Nope. I don't know a single redneck boy that ain't flown the Confederate flag on something, and you will probably find it represented in my house at least a dozen times. And I have naught to do with the South (less a few kin).
I think you don't know what you say @Maj. Bill Martin ... I don't think you know the half of what that Rebel Flag is for.
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Nope. I don't know a single redneck boy that ain't flown the Confederate flag on something, and you will probably find it represented in my house at least a dozen times. And I have naught to do with the South (less a few kin).
I think you don't know what you say @Maj. Bill Martin ... I don't think you know the half of what that Rebel Flag is for.
It doesn't matter if my opinion about the flag itself is right or wrong. Although my opinion on it is pretty casual, and I don't really care that much one way or the other.
The point was that just because you may label it as "woke" doesn't mean that everyone else considers it the same, or that they would consider it just as important an issue as transgenderism or DEI. Your redneck friends might, but they're not a majority of the GOP electorate.
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At least in my case my inclusion of a rebel flag as my screen icon is not a win or lose issue of what happened 1861-1865. It is an effort on my behalf to support and protect the heritage of my ancestors who showed great bravery and valor. A few died in battle, like at Shiloh and Wilson's Creek.
Letting woke liberals piss on that, angers me more than almost anything else I see from these disgusting socialist. Nikki has not helped, and I will leave it at that, except the fact she should expect the wrath of like minded people like myself.
No, I get that, and as I said in a later post, the issue isn't one that I care much about either way. I have plenty of friends who are Southerners, and I don't judge them one way or the other if they choose to fly or display that flag. It's just not my thing.
My point is that there are a lot of Republican voters who won't consider her order to remove the flag as a deal breaker.
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It doesn't matter if my opinion about the flag itself is right or wrong. Although my opinion on it is pretty casual, and I don't really care that much one way or the other.
The point was that just because you may label it as "woke" doesn't mean that everyone else considers it the same, or that they would consider it just as important an issue as transgenderism or DEI. Your redneck friends might, but they're not a majority of the GOP electorate.
Agreed it does has some bearing on personal impact.
Think about your own heritage, and think how you would feel if there were those out there trying to erase and deface it in the name of "wokeness", and racial political agenda.
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It doesn't matter if my opinion about the flag itself is right or wrong. Although my opinion on it is pretty casual, and I don't really care that much one way or the other.
The point was that just because you may label it as "woke" doesn't mean that everyone else considers it the same, or that they would consider it just as important an issue as transgenderism or DEI. Your redneck friends might, but they're not a majority of the GOP electorate.
I think you are wrong in that too, @Maj. Bill Martin ...
But I think you example the separation between the GOP and its base quite well.
Those that curse the Confederate Flag and embrace transgenderism in the GOP are well and truly divorced from reality, not to mention the Republican Base
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Nikki Haley on 2024: I Can Be the New Leader America Needs
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Sorry ....know this is a thread about Haley, but I don't think she can be released from accountibility for her actions as SC Governor.
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Sorry ....know this is a thread about Haley, but I don't think she can be released from accountibility for her actions as SC Governor.
Oh no... Your objections are legit. :beer:
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Let me ask all y'all...
The Christian Right is the largest voting bloc in the Republican party...
Do you think THEY readily embrace this woke bullshit that the GOP is pushing?
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I know this, my friends in the south do not like the destruction and ruination of their historical culture, which includes the Confederate flag. So, she will not be welcome in the south, she will not even carry her own state. That says it all right there.
And frankly, I am a damned Yankee, my Great Great Grandfather fought for the Union and lost a leg, I live in the south, prefer the south, and I see nothing wrong with Confederate Generals and such statues where they stand. It is a part of our history, and it is the one war more Americans died than any other. So let those statues stand as a reminder, that is fine by me.
Contrary to the moronic rhetoric of the 44th POTUS, there was not a single signer of the Constitution that was muslim. Not one. It is time to return to the truth about our history, to teach it all, warts and everything else. The fact that Washington and Jefferson owned slaves should not tarnish their position in our history. Both men were consequential in making this great nation what it is today. And for the moronic folks like Obama to think otherwise, well damn them to hell already!
If there is one word to characterize our history, it would be the word:
F R E E D O M
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Before they were Confederate Generals, they were American Generals, many of whom served in the Mexican-American War 1846-1848.
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I think you are wrong in that too, @Maj. Bill Martin ...
But I think you example the separation between the GOP and its base quite well.
Those that curse the Confederate Flag and embrace transgenderism in the GOP are well and truly divorced from reality, not to mention the Republican Base
You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.
I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.
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Before they were Confederate Generals, they were American Generals, many of whom served in the Mexican-American War 1846-1848.
Like I said, I oppose the tearing down of those statues, and also the ridiculous name-changing frenzy. It just always struck me as kind of odd that the flag of a defeated rebellion still gets flown. I also get why an agency of the government - as opposed to private citizens - shouldn't fly that flag.
To me, that's a completely different issue from private citizens who choose to fly it to express their solidarity with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR.
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You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.
I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.
Incidental oddity - One I don't quite believe, as I know folks from rural Ohio who meet the very same expectations as rural folks everywhere (other than the northeast)
But whether the case. pick your poison. :seeya:
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You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.
I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.
When people have been subjected to as many LIES as they have about The War of Northern Aggression for as long as they have the LIES become truth to many of them, but FACTS will remain FACTS forever and ever.
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I don't know why Haley chose to take down statues/flags. Was it something she had to do because of the state lege?
The removal of flags and statues and the attempt to erase history annoys the heck out of me. But it's not a new thing. The high school I went to...their football team was the Rebels. The presence of the Confederate flag was a gimme. I don't recall any of us even making the connection. It was just cool. The year after I graduated (1971) they were forced to change the name of the team and ditch the flag. It took them years to go back to a state championship, lol.
I also don't know her other political stances. If she runs, I'll look into it. I'm not generally a one issue voter.
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Like I said, I oppose the tearing down of those statues, and also the ridiculous name-changing frenzy. It just always struck me as kind of odd that the flag of a defeated rebellion still gets flown. I also get why an agency of the government - as opposed to private citizens - shouldn't fly that flag.
To me, that's a completely different issue from private citizens who choose to fly it to express their solidarity with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR.
Swing and a miss.
It is the flag that is the archetype. Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR align THEMSELVES... to the architype, not the other way around.
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Swing and a miss.
It is the flag that is the archetype. Skynyrd, Jack Daniels, and NASCAR align THEMSELVES... to the architype, not the other way around.
Thanks @roamer_1 I was coming to that.
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You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.
I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.
:thumbsup:
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You're omitting the category of people who aren't fond of the Confederate flag but don't embrace transgenderism.
I'm in Ohio, and I can tell you that the Confederate flag is not popular here among most Republicans, while those same people are very much opposed to the cult of transgenderism.
There are a few aspects of northern culture that I am not too fond of either., but would expect a little common ground when it comes to honoring one's ancestry and family history. p.s. I married a Yankee :cool:
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No, no, Nikki, no!
Cuz you're a Rin, Rin, Rin, RINO...!
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There are a few aspects of northern culture that I am not too fond of either., but would expect a little common ground when it comes to honoring one's ancestry and family history. p.s. I married a Yankee :cool:
Again...I think you'd find a lot more sympathy for things like renaming schools and tearing down statues. But in terms of the flag itself...you have to understand that a lot of people outside the South don't have the same association with it that you do. We have statutes of generals/leaders that are under attack, and people wanting to rename schools that are named after people like Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. We get that you don't want your statutes torn down or your schools renamed either. But we don't fly the confederate battle flag in our state buildings, so there just isn't any resonance.
If the duly elected governor of South Carolina orders that particular flag not be flown in state buildings, that just elicits just a big old shrug from most other Republicans in other regions, and isn't a disqualifier for Haley.