The Briefing Room
General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: Timber Rattler on December 19, 2022, 09:31:45 pm
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https://www.semafor.com/article/12/18/2022/how-a-pro-desantis-group-is-planning-to-take-down-donald-trump
A super PAC urging Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to run for president in 2024 is gearing up to take on Donald Trump in the new year by any means necessary.
“Ron to the Rescue,” founded by Republican strategist John Thomas, emerged just after the midterms with an ad declaring that “America needs Ron DeSantis” and pitching his success as Joe Biden’s failure to keep a good state down. But they’re also preparing to go on offense with ads and coordinated media campaigns if the cold war between Ron and Don turns into a hot one.
“We’re not afraid to take the gloves off,” Thomas told Semafor. “If the former president decides to get nasty with DeSantis, the governor has shown a level of discipline I admire and not responding to those kinds of things, but somebody needs to and so we will defend the governor and not be afraid to do it.”
He added that “it doesn't matter if it's Democrats unfairly attacking him, if it's Mike Pompeo or Mike Pence, it literally doesn't matter.”
Thomas isn’t a “Never Trumper,” he insisted, nor is he a blind DeSantis superfan. In fact, as recently as August he thought the Florida governor shouldn’t run for president after the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago and the party seemed to be rallying back to Trump’s side. The midterm results, which featured a strong performance by DeSantis and a series of losses among Trump-backed candidates, convinced him it was time to go all-in.
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The only thing needed to take down Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
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The only thing needed to take down Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
Accurate! :amen:
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The only thing needed to take down Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
Couldn't have said it better.
DJT has resorted to comic charactures for enhanced status and self worth.... I'll pass
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The only thing needed to take down Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
Spot on. He is his own worstest enemy. Just stand back and let the the boy dig his hole deeper.
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The only thing needed to take down Donald Trump is Donald Trump.
That is sad but true. And he has 2 years to complete his own debacle.
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That is sad but true. And he has 2 years to complete his own debacle.
But how much collateral damage will there be? Especially if he runs third party.
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But how much collateral damage will there be? Especially if he runs third party.
A Trump 3rd party run guarantees a dimocratic POTUS victory in '24. But he doesn't care.
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Right now, I think Trump has more on his plate to worry about; Garland indicting him for the J6 insurrection. He will ensure that he can't run. Just my opinion.
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https://www.semafor.com/article/12/18/2022/how-a-pro-desantis-group-is-planning-to-take-down-donald-trump
A super PAC urging Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to run for president in 2024 is gearing up to take on Donald Trump in the new year by any means necessary.
“Ron to the Rescue,” founded by Republican strategist John Thomas, emerged just after the midterms with an ad declaring that “America needs Ron DeSantis” and pitching his success as Joe Biden’s failure to keep a good state down. But they’re also preparing to go on offense with ads and coordinated media campaigns if the cold war between Ron and Don turns into a hot one.
“We’re not afraid to take the gloves off,” Thomas told Semafor. “If the former president decides to get nasty with DeSantis, the governor has shown a level of discipline I admire and not responding to those kinds of things, but somebody needs to and so we will defend the governor and not be afraid to do it.”
He added that “it doesn't matter if it's Democrats unfairly attacking him, if it's Mike Pompeo or Mike Pence, it literally doesn't matter.”
Thomas isn’t a “Never Trumper,” he insisted, nor is he a blind DeSantis superfan. In fact, as recently as August he thought the Florida governor shouldn’t run for president after the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago and the party seemed to be rallying back to Trump’s side. The midterm results, which featured a strong performance by DeSantis and a series of losses among Trump-backed candidates, convinced him it was time to go all-in.
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??? Lots of people keep pushing Ron to run, and the rumor mill says he's running, but I think too many people are getting their hopes up.
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A Trump 3rd party run guarantees a dimocratic POTUS victory in '24. But he doesn't care.
Of course he doesn't. The guy is always for Trump. The country be damned.
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How about just letting the voters decide in the primary.
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How about just letting the voters decide in the primary.
Problem is that is NOT what Trump wants. He wants a full coronation with no one else running against him.
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That is sad but true. And he has 2 years to complete his own debacle.
Trump will not get past the primaries. Hope the RINO GOP sticks it to him as much as possible. Maybe then he will see the light if he is not the controlled opposition of the UNIPARTY. Nothing changes except the excuses until the Republican Party is GONE and eliminated. TRUMP can do THAT if he wants to but will not get elected to any office. He can be force forever if he starts a American Patriot PARTY as a opposition party to the RINO GOP and UNIPARTY. Would have 50 Million followers in 6 months. Will his EGO keep him from running again? NO and he will fail if he does. However he got behind people like Kari Lake with a new American Patriot PARTY and others like her he would go down as one of the best Patriots of all time. Problem is his EGO or he is in on the UNIPARTY plan and part of it. Supporting McCarthy has thrown a lot of red flags up to a lot of Patriots. :patriot:
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Problem is that is NOT what Trump wants. He wants a full coronation with no one else running against him.
Please, stop speaking for President Trump. I can't think of anyone on this forum who has less of an understanding of the man than you.
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How about just letting the voters decide in the primary.
:thumbsup:
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The basic problems here are that:
1: it's the circular firing squad, again...
2: Anyone who would prefer the RINOs to Trump can kiss my ass.
For all the problems I may have with Trump, it is the RINOs who have managed to field just enough defectors to pass most of the problems this country has, or fail to repeal the rest when the opportunity was there. Had they worked with Trump instead of slow-walking, sandbagging, and otherwise refusing to perform on their own campaign promises just to make Trump look bad we would not have half the crap we do.
Instead they sat on their collective ass and did squat.
If you want the RINOs to take it, you might as well go whole hog Democrat and get it over with.
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Please, stop speaking for President Trump. I can't think of anyone on this forum who has less of an understanding of the man than you.
That's really funny. Trump is out for Trump, and only Trump, and nobody else.
Period.
Did you get your NFT digital trading card?
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That's really funny. Trump is out for Trump, and only Trump, and nobody else.
Period.
Don't engage her. She is one of the last Trump leg humpers. We keep her around for entertainment value.
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Don't engage her newbie. She is one of the last Trump leg humpers. We keep her around for entertainment value.
Oh, I know her well from 2016, and she remembers me. Times have changed.
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Oh, I know her well from 2016, and she remembers me. Times have changed.
Yep, Most of us have moved on.
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Don't engage her. She is one of the last Trump leg humpers. We keep her around for entertainment value.
Aw, come on you coward..... engage me. Don't be so afraid to show the world the depth of your knowledge and ability to think. After all, I deserve a little entertainment, too. 88devil
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Oh, I know her well from 2016, and she remembers me.
Well, you certainly think highly of yourself. :whistle:
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Trump will not get past the primaries. Hope the RINO GOP sticks it to him as much as possible. Maybe then he will see the light if he is not the controlled opposition of the UNIPARTY. Nothing changes except the excuses until the Republican Party is GONE and eliminated. TRUMP can do THAT if he wants to but will not get elected to any office. He can be force forever if he starts a American Patriot PARTY as a opposition party to the RINO GOP and UNIPARTY. Would have 50 Million followers in 6 months. Will his EGO keep him from running again? NO and he will fail if he does. However he got behind people like Kari Lake with a new American Patriot PARTY and others like her he would go down as one of the best Patriots of all time. Problem is his EGO or he is in on the UNIPARTY plan and part of it. Supporting McCarthy has thrown a lot of red flags up to a lot of Patriots. :patriot:
:yowsa: Good to see you posting again by the way @Longiron
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Aw, come on you coward..... engage me. Don't be so afraid to show the world the depth of your knowledge and ability to think. After all, I deserve a little entertainment, too. 88devil
Are you on board with Trump's endorsements of Mitch McConnell, Ronna McDaniel, and Kevin McCarthy?
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Come on folks our enemies are not on this forum...it's Christmas week please keep that in mind and curb your insults.
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Are you on board with Trump's endorsements of Mitch McConnell, Ronna McDaniel, and Kevin McCarthy?
You know the rules: First, prove you have at least a rudimentary understanding of the issue and then, and only then do you and I discuss it. Second, stop throwing old news previously discussed on top of actual news ---- it remains an automatic disqualifier for engagement.
Unless and until you can do this, I will continue to refuse to play with you----no matter how often you ask. :tongue2:
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Yep, Most of us have moved on.
Apparently not as many as you think.
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You know the rules: First, prove you have at least a rudimentary understanding of the issue and then, and only then do you and I discuss it. Second, stop throwing old news previously discussed on top of actual news ---- it remains an automatic disqualifier for engagement.
Unless and until you can do this, I will continue to refuse to play with you----no matter how often you ask. :tongue2:
I'll take that as a 'yes'.
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Unless and until you can do this, I will continue to refuse to play with you----no matter how often you ask. :tongue2:
You must be a very lonely person, picking and choosing who you play with on a politics board. farter000000
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How about just letting the voters decide in the primary.
@ironhorsedriver
Wadda yew,sum sorta radi-cal?
Weeze a-watchin yew,boy!
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Problem is that is NOT what Trump wants. He wants a full coronation with no one else running against him.
@Timber Rattler
Has there EVER been a politician that didn't want that?
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The basic problems here are that:
1: it's the circular firing squad, again...
2: Anyone who would prefer the RINOs to Trump can kiss my ass.
For all the problems I may have with Trump, it is the RINOs who have managed to field just enough defectors to pass most of the problems this country has, or fail to repeal the rest when the opportunity was there. Had they worked with Trump instead of slow-walking, sandbagging, and otherwise refusing to perform on their own campaign promises just to make Trump look bad we would not have half the crap we do.
Instead they sat on their collective ass and did squat.
If you want the RINOs to take it, you might as well go whole hog Democrat and get it over with.
@Smokin Joe
ALL VERY true,but it should be pointed out that DeSantis does NOT seem to be a RINO.
It should also be pointed out there so far there are no indications he even wants to run for the WH come the next election.
Maybe he will,maybe he won't,and I doubt even he knows if he will or not at this point.
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That's really funny. Trump is out for Trump, and only Trump, and nobody else.
Period.
@Timber Rattler
Ok,Bubba,so now explain to us all what difference that would make even IF it were true,and what he does helps America survive while boosting his ego?
Or are you just one of those guys who hate him because he is wealthy and famous?
I,personally don't give a squat if he starts wearing a bone in his nose and suddenly decides to attend press conferences wearing a loin cloth as long as he pushes legislation that helps America to survive and regain her rightful place in the world.
It ain't about Trump.
It ain't about you.
It ain't about me.
It IS about the survival of America,and that is dependent on rooting out the political corruption. ONLY an outsider can do this,and THIS is why the professional pols hate him so much.
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Yep, Most of us have moved on.
@Wingnut
Wandering around clueless is not the same thing as "moved on".
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@Wingnut
Wandering around clueless is not the same thing as "moved on".
Pete ... Respectfully. Please F@ck off, Between you and RiV it is hard taking this place seriously anymore.
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Pete ... Respectfully. Please F@ck off, Between you and RiV it is hard taking this place seriously anymore.
@Wingnut
Well,it would really help if people like you would post a list of the things that acceptable to think and say,and those that aren't
Asking for a friend.
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@Smokin Joe
ALL VERY true,but it should be pointed out that DeSantis does NOT seem to be a RINO.
It should also be pointed out there so far there are no indications he even wants to run for the WH come the next election.
Maybe he will,maybe he won't,and I doubt even he knows if he will or not at this point.
De santis may not be one, but thats who is cheering in the wings for him. Not that the RINOs wouldn't be just as happy with another run of Biden (they're still caving right and left), but anyone vbut Trump is their mantra, too.
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De santis may not be one, but thats who is cheering in the wings for him. Not that the RINOs wouldn't be just as happy with another run of Biden (they're still caving right and left), but anyone vbut Trump is their mantra, too.
@Smokin Joe
There hasn't been a Presidential candidate that has scared the professional pols in DC even half as much as Trump. And it's not just the left he scares. He also scares the hell out of their RINO pals because they are afraid their graft money is going to be cut off if Trump is elected,followed by the possibility of DeSantis replacing him 4 years later.
Trump is the ONLY politician since the Founding Fathers that can neither be bought or scared away. The ONLY thing he worries about is how he is going to be written about in the history books,and his ego DEMANDS he do his best to go down in history as one of the greatest American Presidents.
THIS is why he receives so much public hate. He is not just taking on the Dims,he is taking on their co-conspirators in the alleged Republican Party.
THAT is why so many people hate him so much
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@Smokin Joe
There hasn't been a Presidential candidate that has scared the professional pols in DC even half as much as Trump. And it's not just the left he scares. He also scares the hell out of their RINO pals because they are afraid their graft money is going to be cut off if Trump is elected,followed by the possibility of DeSantis replacing him 4 years later.
Ridiculous nonsense. Why would that scare them? Their fortunes GREW under his tutelage, as did their power. If elected they will do exactly the same thing again. Hem him in and tie him up... Leave him with nothing but executive orders and challenge those in the courts. His impact didn't even leave a crater.
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Why would that scare them? Their fortunes GREW under his tutelage, as did their power.
You got that right.