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General Category => Science, Technology and Knowledge => Space => Topic started by: Gefn on July 11, 2022, 11:12:31 pm
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NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope has produced the deepest and sharpest infrared image of the distant universe to date. Known as Webb’s First Deep Field, this image of galaxy cluster SMACS 0723 is overflowing with detail.
Thousands of galaxies – including the faintest objects ever observed in the infrared – have appeared in Webb’s view for the first time. This slice of the vast universe covers a patch of sky approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground.
This deep field, taken by Webb’s Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam), is a composite made from images at different wavelengths, totaling 12.5 hours – achieving depths at infrared wavelengths beyond the Hubble Space Telescope’s deepest fields, which took weeks.
The image shows the galaxy cluster SMACS 0723 as it appeared 4.6 billion years ago. The combined mass of this galaxy cluster acts as a gravitational lens, magnifying much more distant galaxies behind it. Webb’s NIRCam has brought those distant galaxies into sharp focus – they have tiny, faint structures that have never been seen before, including star clusters and diffuse features. Researchers will soon begin to learn more about the galaxies’ masses, ages, histories, and compositions, as Webb seeks the earliest galaxies in the universe.
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-delivers-deepest-infrared-image-of-universe-yet
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Photo in article,
It’s full of stars…..(deliberate quote intended)
And one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen.
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"President Joe Biden unveiled this image of galaxy cluster SMACS 0723, known as Webb’s First Deep Field, during a White House event Monday, July 11
Webb’s image covers a patch of sky approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground – and reveals thousands of galaxies in a tiny sliver of vast universe
Webb’s sharp near-infrared view brought out faint structures in extremely distant galaxies, offering the most detailed view of the early universe to date
NASA and its partners will release the full series of Webb’s first full-color images and data, known as spectra, Tuesday, July 12, during a live NASA TV broadcast"
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_deep_field_smacs0723-5mb.jpg)
@Gefn
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And that's from a view as big as a grain of sand! Who can possibly believe we're alone in the universe now.
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And that's from a view as big as a grain of sand! Who can possibly believe we're alone in the universe now.
I have no idea. Certainly not me!
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"President Joe Biden unveiled this image of galaxy cluster SMACS 0723, known as Webb’s First Deep Field, during a White House event Monday, July 11
Webb’s image covers a patch of sky approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground – and reveals thousands of galaxies in a tiny sliver of vast universe
Webb’s sharp near-infrared view brought out faint structures in extremely distant galaxies, offering the most detailed view of the early universe to date
NASA and its partners will release the full series of Webb’s first full-color images and data, known as spectra, Tuesday, July 12, during a live NASA TV broadcast"
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_deep_field_smacs0723-5mb.jpg)
@Gefn
Thank you @Right_in_Virginia
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Thank you @Right_in_Virginia
:thumbsup:
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We are not alone.
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We are not alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2wnSVeITg
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Beautiful view....
(but a long long way between rest stops).
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Very beautiful, and very amazing.
Side note - I think it's hilarious that there's a Trump star in there, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKWMrM1V/First-Webb-with-Trump.jpg)
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New images just released.
Speechless
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-captures-dying-star-s-final-performance-in-fine-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-sheds-light-on-galaxy-evolution-black-holes
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth
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It’s also the newest worldwide Google doodle
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New images just released.
Speechless
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-captures-dying-star-s-final-performance-in-fine-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-sheds-light-on-galaxy-evolution-black-holes
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth
Holy schmoley, those are incredible.
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New images just released.
Speechless
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-captures-dying-star-s-final-performance-in-fine-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-sheds-light-on-galaxy-evolution-black-holes
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth
Wow.
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God is an impressive artist.
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(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_star-forming_region_carina_nircam_final-5mb.jpg)
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_galaxies_stephans_quintet_sq_nircam_miri_final-5mb.jpg)
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_stellar_death_s_ring_miri_nircam_sidebyside-5mb.jpg)
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/thumbnails/image/main_image_deep_field_smacs0723-5mb.jpg)
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Who would have thunk a dying star would be so beautiful, especially considering all the damage it does.
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New images just released.
Speechless
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-captures-dying-star-s-final-performance-in-fine-detail
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-sheds-light-on-galaxy-evolution-black-holes
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-cosmic-cliffs-glittering-landscape-of-star-birth
Wow!
Thanks for the links!
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God is an impressive artist.
:yowsa: And his creations are limitless! For me, looking at these photos has been a religious experience.
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Webb Space Telescope
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The Colors in the James Webb Space Telescope Photos Are Fake
And that’s OK.
Slate by Sarah Braner July 15, 2022
The images from JWST like the one of the Carina nebula and the deep field image are composed from data from the infrared spectrum, which has a longer wavelength than visible light, and is sometimes called “heat radiation.” Infrared radiation isn’t just an outer space thing—you and I give off infrared light, too. Some animals, like snakes, can see infrared light through specialized organs, but human cells in the retina aren’t adapted to seeing infrared (except under very specific circumstances, or with the assistance of night vision goggles). Humans can only see a fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum with the naked eye. This fraction, commonly called visible light, is tiny compared to the whole spectrum.
Many of the objects captured by the JWST give off visible light, as well as infrared. So, why bother looking at the sky using an infrared telescope? Some objects are only visible to us in infrared because they aren’t very bright (like planets that don’t emit visible light by themselves) or because dust is blocking the visible light. For objects that are really far away, the light they emit gets stretched out, going from visible to infrared, a phenomenon called redshifting, Alice Shapley, an astronomy professor at UCLA explained to me. This happens because the universe is expanding. The Carina nebula is within our home galaxy, so it’s not far away enough to get redshifted. But many galaxies in the deep field image are far away enough that the light they emit does get redshifted, leaving scientists to translate it back into a form that our eyes can understand.
To make the images circulating now, Shapley explained, the JWST used its infrared cameras to collect several “brightness images” in grayscale. Six filters each captured different wavelengths of infrared light. Back on Earth, each filter was assigned a color. The filter capturing the longest wavelength was red; the filter capturing the shortest wavelength was blue, with the other colors in between. By combining these images, the final composite image features all of the colors visible in the photos circulating now.
More: https://slate.com/technology/2022/07/james-webb-space-telescope-photos-colors-infrared.html (https://slate.com/technology/2022/07/james-webb-space-telescope-photos-colors-infrared.html)
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Scientist Mistakes Slice of Chorizo for Distant Star Imaged by the James Webb Space Telescope, Apology Ensues
Techeblog 8/5/2022
While the James Webb Space Telescope is busy imaging two super-earths, French scientist Etienne Klein mistakenly mistook an image of a slice of chorizo for Proxima Centauri, the closest star to our sun. However, many people across social media weren’t amused by this blundering mistake.
Klein initially played it off as a joke after Twitter users started turning his Tweet into a meme, but later had to say“to be wary of arguments from people in positions of authority as well as the spontaneous eloquence of certain images.” When he’s not making jokes, Klein is busy as the director of research at France’s Atomic Energy Commission (CEA) and a radio show producer.
According to contemporary cosmology, no object belonging to Spanish charcuterie exists anywhere but on Earth. I come to present my apologies to those who may have been shocked by my prank, which had nothing original about it,” he said, describing the post as a ‘scientist’s joke’,” said Klein.
https://www.techeblog.com/scientist-chorizo-star-james-webb-space-telescope/ (https://www.techeblog.com/scientist-chorizo-star-james-webb-space-telescope/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcZPWOE_vT8&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcZPWOE_vT8&t=3s)
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:facepalm2:
CBS Evening News: "A prominent French scientist is apologizing after tweeting a photo he claimed was an image of a distant star taken by the James Webb Space Telescope. Turns out, it was actually a close-up photo of a sausage." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1555692082190237696
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:facepalm2:
CBS Evening News: "A prominent French scientist is apologizing after tweeting a photo he claimed was an image of a distant star taken by the James Webb Space Telescope. Turns out, it was actually a close-up photo of a sausage." (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1555692082190237696
😂
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New Hubble photo of Orion Nebula is stunning and hypnotic
https://bgr.com/science/new-hubble-photo-of-orion-nebula-is-stunning-and-hypnotic/ (https://bgr.com/science/new-hubble-photo-of-orion-nebula-is-stunning-and-hypnotic/)
Hubble has captured a new photo of the Orion Nebula, and it is absolutely breathtaking. The photo is mostly centered around a celestial cloudscape in the nebula, which includes a Herbig-Haro object known as HH 505. Herbig-Haro objects are luminous regions that surround newborn stars. The image is stunning and a great reminder that Hubble has plenty of life left in it.
The European Space Agency (ESA) says the outflows that create HH 505 come from a star known as IX Ori. The star itself lies on the outskirts of the Orion Nebula, roughly 1000 light-years away from the Earth. You can see the outflows along the top and bottom of the new Orion photo captured by Hubble.
Hubble captured the image using its Advanced Camera for Surveys. Astronomers watched the nebula to study the properties of outflows and protoplanetary discs. The capture looks like a mixture of colorful clouds peacefully floating through space. Of course, in the middle of that mixture is HH 505, which gives the image an even more intriguing look.
(https://bgr.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bgrpic-copy-36.jpg)
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Behold! New Images From Webb Telescope Show Rivers of Stars and Dust
https://www.inverse.com/science/jwst-sees-the-ianes-of-dust-gas-in-spiral-galaxies (https://www.inverse.com/science/jwst-sees-the-ianes-of-dust-gas-in-spiral-galaxies)
The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) continues to mesmerize with its latest views of the Universe.
Scientists caught unprecedented sights of star-making material when they directed a JWST instrument to look at a handful of nearby galaxies. Their data revealed billowing strands of dust too faint to see with other telescopes, as well as clusters of stars near galactic hearts and ‘spurs’ where the dusty cocoons gestate new stars. These pretty visuals provide astronomers with the first steps to charting how stellar nurseries may influence the much grander shapes of their home galaxies.
Astronomers with the PHANGS survey (short for Physics at High Angular resolution in Nearby Galaxies) looked at a handful of face-on galaxies. With this imagery, astronomers are peering into stellar formation in galaxies located millions of light-years away.
They include this view of NGC 1365, a barred spiral galaxy located roughly 60 million light-years away. The bar acts like a road for the star-making material, which can make its way to the center of the galaxy and boost ongoing star formation at its core. JWST’s Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) collected the data for this image.
To see the flow of dusty trails, astronomers needed next-generation instruments tuned in to infrared, a segment of the electromagnetic spectrum where the dust’s subtle heat could be detected.
“JWST allows us to precisely pinpoint the youngest stars still within their birth clouds in nearby galaxies. This capability enables us to look inside the gas and dust in gas-rich galaxy [centers] to study where and how inflowing gas is converted into stars, like in NGC 1365, and compare those results to the Milky Way,” Eva Schinnerer, PHANGS collaborator, states in a description of the images published on Thursday by the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy (MPIA). (Schinnerer is a research group leader at MPIA.)
(https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2023/2/16/3c4e82ab-38ad-49e1-a878-29c1238844d4-ngc-1365.jpg?w=825&h=551&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress)
JWST captured this view of NGC 1365, a barred spiral galaxy located roughly 60 million light-years away in the constellation of Fornax (the Furnace).
(https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2023/2/16/cdd62ca5-9a2a-44ac-85ad-528876643e76-ngc-628.jpg?w=825&h=468&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress)
JWST captured this view of NGC 628, a grand-design spiral galaxy located 32 million light-years from Earth.
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Behold! New Images From Webb Telescope Show Rivers of Stars and Dust
https://www.inverse.com/science/jwst-sees-the-ianes-of-dust-gas-in-spiral-galaxies (https://www.inverse.com/science/jwst-sees-the-ianes-of-dust-gas-in-spiral-galaxies)
The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) continues to mesmerize with its latest views of the Universe.
Scientists caught unprecedented sights of star-making material when they directed a JWST instrument to look at a handful of nearby galaxies. Their data revealed billowing strands of dust too faint to see with other telescopes, as well as clusters of stars near galactic hearts and ‘spurs’ where the dusty cocoons gestate new stars. These pretty visuals provide astronomers with the first steps to charting how stellar nurseries may influence the much grander shapes of their home galaxies.
Astronomers with the PHANGS survey (short for Physics at High Angular resolution in Nearby Galaxies) looked at a handful of face-on galaxies. With this imagery, astronomers are peering into stellar formation in galaxies located millions of light-years away.
They include this view of NGC 1365, a barred spiral galaxy located roughly 60 million light-years away. The bar acts like a road for the star-making material, which can make its way to the center of the galaxy and boost ongoing star formation at its core. JWST’s Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) collected the data for this image.
To see the flow of dusty trails, astronomers needed next-generation instruments tuned in to infrared, a segment of the electromagnetic spectrum where the dust’s subtle heat could be detected.
“JWST allows us to precisely pinpoint the youngest stars still within their birth clouds in nearby galaxies. This capability enables us to look inside the gas and dust in gas-rich galaxy [centers] to study where and how inflowing gas is converted into stars, like in NGC 1365, and compare those results to the Milky Way,” Eva Schinnerer, PHANGS collaborator, states in a description of the images published on Thursday by the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy (MPIA). (Schinnerer is a research group leader at MPIA.)
(https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2023/2/16/3c4e82ab-38ad-49e1-a878-29c1238844d4-ngc-1365.jpg?w=825&h=551&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress)
JWST captured this view of NGC 1365, a barred spiral galaxy located roughly 60 million light-years away in the constellation of Fornax (the Furnace).
(https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2023/2/16/cdd62ca5-9a2a-44ac-85ad-528876643e76-ngc-628.jpg?w=825&h=468&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress)
JWST captured this view of NGC 628, a grand-design spiral galaxy located 32 million light-years from Earth.
That is truly exceptional! Just wow!
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All that just happened all by itself.
8bs8
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This kind of stuff is what makes the purpose of life feel…so…worthwhile
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That's purdy.
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Deep infrared image, boloney!
I took that picture with my iPhone looking through my 30x binoculars.
No problem!
Sent it to NASA and they take all the credit? I'm gonna sue those bureaucrats.
Now tell me what is wrong with this page from August 1991 National Geographic magazine.
http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com (http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com)
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Deep infrared image, boloney!
I took that picture with my iPhone looking through my 30x binoculars.
No problem!
Sent it to NASA and they take all the credit? I'm gonna sue those bureaucrats.
Now tell me what is wrong with this page from August 1991 National Geographic magazine.
http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com (http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com)
The picture on the bottom is upside-down.
Stalagmites vs. stalactites.
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Deep infrared image, boloney!
I took that picture with my iPhone looking through my 30x binoculars.
No problem!
Sent it to NASA and they take all the credit? I'm gonna sue those bureaucrats.
Now tell me what is wrong with this page from August 1991 National Geographic magazine.
http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com (http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com)
Per the quote at the bottom, I see a couple of pictures of 'caves' but none of buffalo or canyons.
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Deep infrared image, boloney!
I took that picture with my iPhone looking through my 30x binoculars.
No problem!
Sent it to NASA and they take all the credit? I'm gonna sue those bureaucrats.
Now tell me what is wrong with this page from August 1991 National Geographic magazine.
http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com (http://NatGeoGoofed.blogspot.com)
The stalactites are pointing up, not down.
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The picture on the bottom is upside-down.
Stalagmites vs. stalactites.
Well done Andy. Ten million people read National Geographic magazine monthly and so far as I know, I am the only one who wrote to them and notified them of the mistake. I have a letter acknowledging the upside downedness but they never printed my letter.
Years later, I cancelled my decades long subscription for their persistent hypocrisy in preaching *climate change* in article after article, while at the same time offering tours and cruises and everything else including "Around the World by Private Jet," at $100,000 per passenger way back when.
http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com (http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com)
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Well done Andy. Ten million people read National Geographic magazine monthly and so far as I know, I am the only one who wrote to them and notified them of the mistake. I have a letter acknowledging the upside downedness but they never printed my letter.
Years later, I cancelled my decades long subscription for their persistent hypocrisy in preaching *climate change* in article after article, while at the same time offering tours and cruises and everything else including "Around the World by Private Jet," at $100,000 per passenger way back when.
http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com (http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com)
I allowed my subscription to National Geographic to expire sometime around 1979 or 80. Never missed it.
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Well done Andy. Ten million people read National Geographic magazine monthly and so far as I know, I am the only one who wrote to them and notified them of the mistake. I have a letter acknowledging the upside downedness but they never printed my letter.
Years later, I cancelled my decades long subscription for their persistent hypocrisy in preaching *climate change* in article after article, while at the same time offering tours and cruises and everything else including "Around the World by Private Jet," at $100,000 per passenger way back when.
http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com (http://theglobalwarmingfraud.wordpress.com)
My wife and I let our NG subscription lapse about 10 years ago when the politicization of its content and inhospitability to open inquiry both became insufferable.
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We got some pretty smart people here on these boards. I'm talkin' about Bigun and Andy.
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We are alone.
The Brilliant Creator made this universe just for us. When you study the science, it's obvious.
The science pointing this out was preceded by the revelations in the Holy Bible written many centuries before humans became so very sophisticated and advanced.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
First Sentence in the first Chapter of the First Book.
Now the complexity of the human body, of atomic structure, of the Anthropic Principle, of the atomic reactor which gives us life, the sun, of the electromagnetic spectrum, of all these things and more there is profound evidence of the Hand of the Brilliant Creator in Whom an overwhelming majority of Nobel Laureates in the sciences believe. Clue: They are not stupid. And they know things.
Beyond these considerations is this. IF, hypothetically speaking, there were some highly intelligent E.T., they would statistically be located over a billion light years away. Radiocommunications in either direction could never arrive to them from us or vice versa.
BUT IF THEY COULD, humans could not read hieroglyphics written by other humans until the Rosetta Stone was discovered, with three different languages giving the same message. So it is inconceivable that we could read some coded message in an unknown language from hypothetical E.T. We hear whales shrieking in the oceans and they have the largest brains on earth and we have no idea what they are saying. Q.E.D.
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We are alone.
The Brilliant Creator made this universe just for us. When you study the science, it's obvious.
The science pointing this out was preceded by the revelations in the Holy Bible written many centuries before humans became so very sophisticated and advanced.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
First Sentence in the first Chapter of the First Book.
Now the complexity of the human body, of atomic structure, of the Anthropic Principle, of the atomic reactor which gives us life, the sun, of the electromagnetic spectrum, of all these things and more there is profound evidence of the Hand of the Brilliant Creator in Whom an overwhelming majority of Nobel Laureates in the sciences believe. Clue: They are not stupid. And they know things.
Beyond these considerations is this. IF, hypothetically speaking, there were some highly intelligent E.T., they would statistically be located over a billion light years away. Radiocommunications in either direction could never arrive to them from us or vice versa.
BUT IF THEY COULD, humans could not read hieroglyphics written by other humans until the Rosetta Stone was discovered, with three different languages giving the same message. So it is inconceivable that we could read some coded message in an unknown language from hypothetical E.T. We hear whales shrieking in the oceans and they have the largest brains on earth and we have no idea what they are saying. Q.E.D.
Highly doubtful.
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We are alone.
The Brilliant Creator made this universe just for us. When you study the science, it's obvious.
The science pointing this out was preceded by the revelations in the Holy Bible written many centuries before humans became so very sophisticated and advanced.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
First Sentence in the first Chapter of the First Book.
Now the complexity of the human body, of atomic structure, of the Anthropic Principle, of the atomic reactor which gives us life, the sun, of the electromagnetic spectrum, of all these things and more there is profound evidence of the Hand of the Brilliant Creator in Whom an overwhelming majority of Nobel Laureates in the sciences believe. Clue: They are not stupid. And they know things.
Beyond these considerations is this. IF, hypothetically speaking, there were some highly intelligent E.T., they would statistically be located over a billion light years away. Radiocommunications in either direction could never arrive to them from us or vice versa.
BUT IF THEY COULD, humans could not read hieroglyphics written by other humans until the Rosetta Stone was discovered, with three different languages giving the same message. So it is inconceivable that we could read some coded message in an unknown language from hypothetical E.T. We hear whales shrieking in the oceans and they have the largest brains on earth and we have no idea what they are saying. Q.E.D.
We are alone.
We are not alone.
No one has evidence to prove either one so both are equally true. To claim either one is hubris.
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Well,I'd like to post an informed opinion,but don't understand any of it well enough to even have an uninformed opinion.
Other than it wasn't all created by some Holy Spook living in the sky.
And "No,I do NOT know how it was created. Neither do any of you. It is a great mystery to all of us,and sometimes a mystery is enough to fascinate and inspire.
Sometimes mysteries are just too complex for any of us to understand,and that's ok,too.
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The Brilliant Creator made this universe just for us. When you study the science, it's obvious.
The science pointing this out was preceded by the revelations in the Holy Bible written many centuries before humans became so very sophisticated and advanced.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
First Sentence in the first Chapter of the First Book.
In the part I highlighted, God is speaking to the inhabitants of THIS Earth. What's to say that He didn't create many Earths in the limitless universe? What's to say that is not continuing to occur?
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My opinion?
Just like ah's everyone has one.
Mine, as a scientist says the probability is high that there is sentient life out in the cosmos somewhere. Likely as advanced or more than ours. However, I am guessing that "warp" travel, even closely approaching travel at the speed of light is not likely ever to occur. To me,the physics involved to create energy to even bend space/time for travel is stuff more of sci fi than reality.
Then, add the vastness and randomness of the universe. If you consider that communication likely can not happen any faster than the speed of life, any communication would not only be remote, but so infrequent. We have stars over 800,000 light years away in our galaxy. Other galaxies? Will never happen. Even if for some reason we discern a blip of civiization, the chance of capturing their brief existence is very very remote.
I like to think we are not alone, but as another mentioned who is not to say that a higher being created it all. Thinking about it..... How all of this happened in pure randomness seems unlikely. An encompasive eternal void would seem a more likely direction of higher being or higher power. For some reason that higher power chose not to take the lazy route, and the wonderment of the universe happened.
I really didn't want this to devolve into a philosophical vs. theological discussive matter, but I think most of us went through that existential reflection at some point, and came to the conclusion that we won't know until we die..... Or will we?
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My opinion?
Just like ah's everyone has one.
Mine, as a scientist says the probability is high that there is sentient life out in the cosmos somewhere. Likely as advanced or more than ours. However, I am guessing that "warp" travel, even closely approaching travel at the speed of light is not likely ever to occur. To me,the physics involved to create energy to even bend space/time for travel is stuff more of sci fi than reality.
Then, add the vastness and randomness of the universe. If you consider that communication likely can not happen any faster than the speed of life, any communication would not only be remote, but so infrequent. We have stars over 800,000 light years away in our galaxy. Other galaxies? Will never happen. Even if for some reason we discern a blip of civiization, the chance of capturing their brief existence is very very remote.
I like to think we are not alone, but as another mentioned who is not to say that a higher being created it all. Thinking about it..... How all of this happened in pure randomness seems unlikely. An encompasive eternal void would seem a more likely direction of higher being or higher power. For some reason that higher power chose not to take the lazy route, and the wonderment of the universe happened.
I really didn't want this to devolve into a philosophical vs. theological discussive matter, but I think most of us went through that existential reflection at some point, and came to the conclusion that we won't know until we die..... Or will we?
@catfish1957
The REAL question is IF there is other life in the universe, and I truly believe this is probable,will we even be able to recognize it as an intelligent life form,and will they be able to recognize US as an intelligent life form?
Different planetary conditions are bought to create different life-forms.
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@catfish1957
The REAL question is IF there is other life in the universe, and I truly believe this is probable,will we even be able to recognize it as an intelligent life form,and will they be able to recognize US as an intelligent life form?
Different planetary conditions are bought to create different life-forms.
I'm convinced that there are many earths out here and that the inhabitants of all of them look just like we do.
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@catfish1957
The REAL question is IF there is other life in the universe, and I truly believe this is probable,will we even be able to recognize it as an intelligent life form,and will they be able to recognize US as an intelligent life form?
Different planetary conditions are bought to create different life-forms.
In one of Tucker Carlson's last interviews he brought the matter up with Musk. Musk eloquently responded that he probably knows as much about space as anyone else, and his repsonse was that we as humans do not have any evidence of alien life. I beleive him.
As far as recognition, I do think their are universal constants of things like math, and physics, and specifically patterned statistics that presented properly would be recognizable by one another.
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I'm convinced that there are many earths out here and that the inhabitants of all of them look just like we do.
Agree. With the vastness of the universe, I'd guess there are many like us, and with the factors of environmental conditions and evoutionary randomness, guessing there are many many more than that are not,
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I'm convinced that there are many earths out here and that the inhabitants of all of them look just like we do.
@Bigun
Ok,I disagree,but who am I to tell you that you are wrong?
I DO know there have been reports of aliens visiting ancient Egypt and maybe a few other places that SEEM to have been semi-credible,but who really knows?
However,IF this is true,they were certain to look close enough to human to have not been executed on sight,and supposedly they helped the Egyptians advance their culture at least a little. The SUPPOSITION that I read GUESSED that humanity at that time,and probably now,were too primitive to interest the aliens,so they just left and went somewhere else.
Can't say this is true or untrue. Just saying a lot of people believe it to be true.
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In one of Tucker Carlson's last interviews he brought the matter up with Musk. Musk eloquently responded that he probably knows as much about space as anyone else, and his repsonse was that we as humans do not have any evidence of alien life. I beleive him.
As far as recognition, I do think their are universal constants of things like math, and physics, and specifically patterned statistics that presented properly would be recognizable by one another.
@catfish1957
Providing of course that we were able to communicate with each other on a level that made understanding complex problems possible.
Given the difficulty we have today even communicating on even a semi-intelligent level with Yankees and other denizens of the frozen north,I wouldn't bet money on it being worth the frustration.
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@catfish1957
The REAL question is IF there is other life in the universe, and I truly believe this is probable,will we even be able to recognize it as an intelligent life form,and will they be able to recognize US as an intelligent life form?
Different planetary conditions are bought to create different life-forms.
With the present intellectual trajectory of this species, they might recognize sentience, but intelligence is definitely in question.
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@catfish1957
Providing of course that we were able to communicate with each other on a level that made understanding complex problems possible.
Given the difficulty we have today even communicating on even a semi-intelligent level with Yankees and other denizens of the frozen north,I wouldn't bet money on it being worth the frustration.
Hey! I'm a denizen of the "frozen North". It only gets strange East of the Red River of the North and west of the Cascades.