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http://www.activistpost.com/2016/05/the-illuminati-were-amateurs-the-facts-show-these-five-families-rule-the-world.html (http://www.activistpost.com/2016/05/the-illuminati-were-amateurs-the-facts-show-these-five-families-rule-the-world.html)
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From Activist Post--Propaganda for Peace, Love and Liberty
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25 May 2016
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By Claire Bernish
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5. Rothschild
4. Rockefeller
3. Morgan
2. Du Pont
1. Bush
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A petition asking for an opinion from the Hague reportedly stated,
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From April 1944 on, the American Air Force could have destroyed the camp with air raids, as well as the railway bridges and railway lines from Hungary to Auschwitz. The murder of about 400,000 Hungarian Holocaust victims could have been prevented.
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Feeling threatened by Roosevelt’s New Deal, wealthy businessmen organized The American Liberty League and in 1934, approached Butler with what they felt to be a tantalizing offer — $3 million up front and $300 million subsequent to the success of the coup, which would involve 500,000 veterans of the first world war.
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“The League was headed by the DuPont and JP Morgan cartels and had major support from Andrew Mellon Associates, Pew (Sun Oil), Rockefeller Associates, EF Hutton Associates, US Steel, General Motors, Chase, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Tires,” CounterPunch explained (http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/02/wall-streets-failed-1934-coup/).
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Funding for the coup would be secreted away by Prescott Bush’s Union Banking Corporation and Harriman Brothers Brown — the same companies with strikingly apparent ties to the Nazis. As revealed later, Bush’s connections to Hitler had been a draw for those plotting the fascist coup, and they later claimed the Nazi-headed German government had offered to assist materially in the plan.
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Though the plotters’ brazen plan would almost certainly have failed on its own, Butler’s secret testimony before the McCormack-Dickstein Committee revealed the group’s intent to install a fascist dictatorship of a similar vein to Germany’s — complete with concentration camps.
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A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy,” wrote (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/27/95580/-) U.S. Ambassador to Germany, William Dodd, in a 1936 letter to Roosevelt. “I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime …
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A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions.
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Most telling of all is the same families — for all their dirty deeds to an actual, planned coup d’état — remain thoroughly entrenched as the American economic aristocracy today.
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“War is a racket,” Butler famously wrote. “It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.”
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We haven't been 'in Kansas' for a long time.
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And it will get worse before it gets better.
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The wolf pack of "elites" are on the attack now. Staging a coup now. Attacking trump and his administration no holds barred. I find it interesting that wolf pack "elites" like Pelosi and Shumer think they will have some play with the oligarchy. They'll be lucky if they get an old bone.
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The wolf pack of "elites" are on the attack now. Staging a coup now. Attacking trump and his administration no holds barred. I find it interesting that wolf pack "elites" like Pelosi and Shumer think they will have some play with the oligarchy. They'll be lucky if they get an old bone.
AGREED.
Tyrannies throughout history have always
exterminated, executed
their most loyal, earliest useful idiots.
They don't want untrustworthy stupid traitors in their new regime.
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I thought I read somewhere that the Rockefeller brats had about drained their JDR trusts dry. Heck they were even railing against ExxonMobil (like a flea) on AGW.
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AGREED.
Tyrannies throughout history have always
exterminated, executed
their most loyal, earliest useful idiots.
They don't want untrustworthy stupid traitors in their new regime.
Freemasons, etc. are the useful idiots. Sure, they wield tremendous power as presidents, monarchs, etc. but I think at the end most are useful idiots. And something Jordan Maxwell said that the people are the Illuminati too for following their script.
FWIW I added something called uBlock on Firefox browser. Some of the websites, actually a lot of websites I visit, are running so much script it is a PITA to get pages to load. This uBlock addon seems to stop a lot of that script. I tend to get quite a few tabs open at once and then wonder why my computer is running slow. I reference between articles at the same time.
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Freemasons, etc. are the useful idiots. Sure, they wield tremendous power as presidents, monarchs, etc. but I think at the end most are useful idiots.
Who was the most recent Freemason President of the US?
How did his Freemasonry impact the way he governed?
Who is a living Luminati member, serving in government, or wielding significant powers?
(Questions for those capable of common sense and practical results oriented thinking.)
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Who was the most recent Freemason President of the US?
How did his Freemasonry impact the way he governed?
Who is a living Luminati member, serving in government, or wielding significant powers?
(Questions for those capable of common sense and practical results oriented thinking.)
Gerald Ford.
Lap dog.
obama
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Gerald Ford.
Lap dog.
obama
Obama is not a freemason. I believe Ford was the last brother.
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Psychotic BS and idiot bait.
I notice they managed to miss families like the British royals who are probably still the single most powerful family on the planet. They also managed to miss Soros, Buffet, Gates, Steyer......
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Obama is not a freemason. I believe Ford was the last brother.
Answers in order ask-ed.
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Psychotic BS and idiot bait.
I notice they managed to miss families like the British royals who are probably still the single most powerful family on the planet. They also managed to miss Soros, Buffet, Gates, Steyer......
British Royalty has nothing to do with actual power. The others you mentioned are merely rich. I tend to disagree that the bushes are in the top 5.
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@Quix
“The League was headed by the DuPont and JP Morgan cartels and had major support from Andrew Mellon Associates, Pew (Sun Oil), Rockefeller Associates, EF Hutton Associates, US Steel, General Motors, Chase, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Tires,”
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If this happened, it happened. I can understand the very wealthy trying to keep their wealth together during those times and coming together to do that.
I am connected to one of those wealthy people - he kept my family thriving during the Great Depression, and afterward, he sent me to college and kept my parents living well until my father died and then kept my mother living well until she died. Who was this man? It was Pew and Sun Oil Company. My father worked for Pew, his Sun Oil Company, first in Oklahoma for a few years, then to Texas for the rest of their lives. My father had that job all his adult years, had that job during the depression so they were well off compared to others. My father bought Sun Oil stock every month and some of that stock sent me to college. That stock bought me my first store bought clothes the summer before I started to college.
People tend to dump on rich people, however their companies caused people to have a good life and they still do. I have an ultra liberal friend and he hates every company, hates for them to make money, but he worked for one and made a high salary. When the oil business took a dive a few years ago, he was laid off. He would like to have that high salary again with that evil company.
Just as the ultra rich got together as stated in your article, I would bet the extra rich are doing the same thing today. They are a very small minority so they come together for protection. That is their right. I don't care because I can't control them.
I care about my world I can control, not theirs as I have no control over what others do. I can't control the universe, the world, Earth, our country except to vote, my state except to vote, my county except to vote, but I can control my world, which is the lot this house is on, the front and backyard, and this house outside and inside, and how we live inside this house and how I live inside of me. I help others when I can. I can teach English to a Spanish Catholic Priest and that helps others understand him and that is important to hundreds of people who hear him.
I think if others would concentrate on what good they can do, this country and world would be a better place. We need to be stable about our own existence and trust God to handle the rest; those things over which we have no power. I am not going to fret over what rich people did or do, or what happens in the greater world - my personal world is essential to my life and my personal relationship with God/Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit. I teach scripture to a group and that is another essential connection with God. I study the New Jerusalem Bible to expand my knowledge of God's grace to humankind.
The rich have their problems because they are rich. They will have to deal with that by themselves unless they reach out to God for help.
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These people didn't come together to protect their assets. They use those assets to induce controls over the general population. Undoubtedly they do many things that help people. But they seem only to invest in control and the means to keep that control via institutions and government.
At what point is it enough?
They don't ever seem to reach that point.
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The rich have their problems because they are rich. They will have to deal with that by themselves unless they reach out to God for help.
I got just a taste of that lifestyle. I got into a couple big resort and real estate gigs, putting packages together for some high-brow folks... Jetting off to Calgary, Chicago, Kansas City, Seattle... Board rooms and fancy parties, all that... They can keep it.
I'll keep my tin roof and gravel roads. Never was good at putting on airs. But you're right - They've got problems galore. I wouldn't be moneyed if you paid me. **nononono*
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I thought I read somewhere that the Rockefeller brats had about drained their JDR trusts dry. Heck they were even railing against ExxonMobil (like a flea) on AGW.
I have trouble believing any of the offspring would be able to harm the nest-egg; core trust fund cash. They are all likely on an allowance of whatever amount.
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Freemasons, etc. are the useful idiots. Sure, they wield tremendous power as presidents, monarchs, etc. but I think at the end most are useful idiots. And something Jordan Maxwell said that the people are the Illuminati too for following their script.
FWIW I added something called uBlock on Firefox browser. Some of the websites, actually a lot of websites I visit, are running so much script it is a PITA to get pages to load. This uBlock addon seems to stop a lot of that script. I tend to get quite a few tabs open at once and then wonder why my computer is running slow. I reference between articles at the same time.
I have Ghostery. Is UBlock better than or complementary or what? Ghostery has been wonderful except for some stray video modules. But you can pause it for those and they'll work, usually.
1. Welllllllllllll, everyone that rebels against Almighty God Yehovah or thereby worships other than Yehovah is a useful idiot of satan. Period.
2. The Biblical script is plenty clear that satan WILL establish a one world tyrannical, ruthless, satan worshiping government and one world religion in the era werein Israel becomes a Nation again (1948).
3. Yes, the sheeple are complicit. Historically, a people, a culture get the government they deserve by their behaviors and values.
4. However, the oligarchy has worked for 100's of years to insure that the people increasingly (a la the frog in the kettle) but gradually wandered from and ultimately overtly rebelled against Almighty God Yehovah and Yeshua The Christ. That is satan's ultimate design, goal, strategy--in furious vengeance against getting kicked out of heaven.
5. The changes in American values and cultural mores the last 25 years have been incredible--almost shocking unless one knew the script.
6. Certainly POWER is one of their top goals and addictions.
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Who was the most recent Freemason President of the US?
How did his Freemasonry impact the way he governed?
Who is a living Luminati member, serving in government, or wielding significant powers?
(Questions for those capable of common sense and practical results oriented thinking.)
I don't know.
I know they wield a lot more power than their numbers would indicate. I know they love to keep secrecy as a major mode of their operations.
IIRC, all but a very very few Presidents have been members of a major secret society.
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Psychotic BS and idiot bait.
That comes across to me as grossly uninformed.
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But thanks for the 'honor' of implying that I'm psychotic and an idiot.
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These links can provide more info on the oligarchy:
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1144408/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1144408/pg1)
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QUOTES OF THE GLOBALISTS IN THEIR OWN WORDS:
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http://www.secretsofthefed.com/22-quotes-that-lay-out-the-elites-agenda/ (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/22-quotes-that-lay-out-the-elites-agenda/)
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1924 NEWSPAPER ARTICLE OUTLINES 6 GOALS OF THE GLOBALIST ELITE:
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http://truthstreammedia.com/2016/02/16/1924-newspaper-article-outlines-six-goals-of-the-illuminati/ (http://truthstreammedia.com/2016/02/16/1924-newspaper-article-outlines-six-goals-of-the-illuminati/)
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http://www.redamendment.net/home/ (http://www.redamendment.net/home/)
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http://www.pacalliance.us/fourteenth/ (http://www.pacalliance.us/fourteenth/)
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https://www.pinterest.com/roxysrider1/nwo-and-agenda-21/ (https://www.pinterest.com/roxysrider1/nwo-and-agenda-21/)
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1151331/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1151331/pg1)
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http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Shadow_Government_Exposed.php (http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Shadow_Government_Exposed.php)
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OUSTER OF TRUMP WITHIN 1,000 DAYS PLANNED:
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http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/8132-shadow-men-work-remove-president-trump (http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/8132-shadow-men-work-remove-president-trump)
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imho, the evidence of the ruling elite's doings in our era is almost on every 3rd billboard and scattered all across the geo-political landscape.
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I realize that there are plenty of sheeple/ lemmings/ Eloi who do NOT WANT to be awake; who do NOT WANT to realize consciously what the facts are.
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However, the facts are readily available to anyone with sufficient fair-mindedness, research skills and clarity of thought to meaningfully assess the realities involved.
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I notice they managed to miss families like the British royals who are probably still the single most powerful family on the planet. They also managed to miss Soros, Buffet, Gates, Steyer......
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I don't know how powerful the Queen/monarchy is. Plenty, probably. However, they are also 'merely' one of at least a small group of oligarchs. And, they all MUST march to the orders from hell--perhaps via the fallen angel/ET critter intermediaries.
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Soros is a useful idiot stooge significantly lower level evil doer of the worst sort. It's been said multiple times that the real puppet masters pull strings from well hidden positions and are not well known at all.
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Look, @Quix. You don't have to take the abuse all onto yourself. We can share. I'll be the psychotic. (had lots of practice) You be the idiot. (also I have had lots of practice) We can trade at any time. LOL
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One of the big players, IMO, is the House of Saud. I think they pull the strings of the bush clan, more than the bush clan be a top contender.
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1. I think I understand your very rational perspective.
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2. Certainly we can only do what we can do. . . . the Serenity Prayer comes to mind.
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3. I've facilitated a number of folks making Yeshua their Lord and Savior via a discussion of such issues and facts.
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4. Regardless, it IS part of my God-imprinted mandate to present such information for however long He enables and sees fit for me to do so as a major part of His calling for me to be a Watchman on the wall in such regards. The Bible is clear that blood will be on my hands if I fail to rise to that calling--regardless of the results in others' lives.
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5. Certainly we cannot change or effect much in terms of future goings on--except by our prayers and following God as faithfully as we are able, by His Grace.
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6. I'm aware that the Du Ponts et al can be EXTREMELY GRACIOUS in "TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN." A close personal prophetic black grandmotherly church friend has family relations with first hand experience of such things.
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7. Nevertheless, these are people more than willing to start all the wars since and including the French Revolution--partly to make them more wealthy and powerful and partly to rearrange the geo-political landscape in behalf of their one world government and one world religion goals. They are not--in key respects, core values, other than satan worshiping evil-doers--even now--and becoming more so. Hitler liked some little children, too.
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8. I don't think the toddlers raped and bloodily sacrificed to satan by such elites would think of them as gracious and generous do-gooders.
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9. These are people who make it a habit to be deceptive, duplicitous, Machiavellian etc. and to exalt in being so. They probably take care of their horses as well as they take care of their servants and slaves--that is--those they have not chosen to literally sacrifice to satan in some ritual.
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10. I used to be much more of a champion for even big business than I am now. I realize, now, that virtually every very large company--particularly the multi-nationals--are seriously complicit in bringing about the tyrannical world government. And most of the food product companies are ruthless in feeding the masses very hazardous substances, as well.
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11. I have no need, per se, to dump on rich people. I think folks ought to make as much money as possible to do as much good with it as possible. However, whatever is NOT done FOR CHRIST will turn out to be chaff--p*ssing against the wind. That's true for the very rich and the very poor and all in between. And, typically, it is the middle class folks who provide the most jobs etc. and do the most good per capita around the world.
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12. The rich have their problems (A) because they are human (B) because they have chosen to worship and dedicate all they have and are to the service, literally of satan toward a tyrannical world government and one world religion. They have been deceived that they will gain power that they are addicted to so extensively. They have been snookered by their dark lord and will suffer more than they can even imagine. Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.
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13. I don't think fretting is in order, regardless. The Bible exhorts us to avoid being anxious about anything.
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14. That doesn't mean we are to be sleepwalking Eloi into the maws of the satanic Morlachs, however, imho. Nor are we to allow those we know to do so without attempting to wake them up, warn them of the deeper truths operant in our era.
@Quix
“The League was headed by the DuPont and JP Morgan cartels and had major support from Andrew Mellon Associates, Pew (Sun Oil), Rockefeller Associates, EF Hutton Associates, US Steel, General Motors, Chase, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Tires,”
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If this happened, it happened. I can understand the very wealthy trying to keep their wealth together during those times and coming together to do that.
I am connected to one of those wealthy people - he kept my family thriving during the Great Depression, and afterward, he sent me to college and kept my parents living well until my father died and then kept my mother living well until she died. Who was this man? It was Pew and Sun Oil Company. My father worked for Pew, his Sun Oil Company, first in Oklahoma for a few years, then to Texas for the rest of their lives. My father had that job all his adult years, had that job during the depression so they were well off compared to others. My father bought Sun Oil stock every month and some of that stock sent me to college. That stock bought me my first store bought clothes the summer before I started to college.
People tend to dump on rich people, however their companies caused people to have a good life and they still do. I have an ultra liberal friend and he hates every company, hates for them to make money, but he worked for one and made a high salary. When the oil business took a dive a few years ago, he was laid off. He would like to have that high salary again with that evil company.
Just as the ultra rich got together as stated in your article, I would bet the extra rich are doing the same thing today. They are a very small minority so they come together for protection. That is their right. I don't care because I can't control them.
I care about my world I can control, not theirs as I have no control over what others do. I can't control the universe, the world, Earth, our country except to vote, my state except to vote, my county except to vote, but I can control my world, which is the lot this house is on, the front and backyard, and this house outside and inside, and how we live inside this house and how I live inside of me. I help others when I can. I can teach English to a Spanish Catholic Priest and that helps others understand him and that is important to hundreds of people who hear him.
I think if others would concentrate on what good they can do, this country and world would be a better place. We need to be stable about our own existence and trust God to handle the rest; those things over which we have no power. I am not going to fret over what rich people did or do, or what happens in the greater world - my personal world is essential to my life and my personal relationship with God/Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit. I teach scripture to a group and that is another essential connection with God. I study the New Jerusalem Bible to expand my knowledge of God's grace to humankind.
The rich have their problems because they are rich. They will have to deal with that by themselves unless they reach out to God for help.
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These people didn't come together to protect their assets. They use those assets to induce controls over the general population. Undoubtedly they do many things that help people. But they seem only to invest in control and the means to keep that control via institutions and government.
At what point is it enough?
They don't ever seem to reach that point.
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They are literally possessed as in with literal evil spirits.
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However, even human greed for power and more wealth knows no bounds. Nothing would ever be enough. They still think that the boy with the most toys and power wins. Wrong.
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God's eternal economy is much different--sacrificial-servant-heartedness, humility, loving kindness, doing unto others as we'd prefer done to us . . . etc.
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They will realize they bet on the wrong horse . . . when it is far too late, most likely.
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I got just a taste of that lifestyle. I got into a couple big resort and real estate gigs, putting packages together for some high-brow folks... Jetting off to Calgary, Chicago, Kansas City, Seattle... Board rooms and fancy parties, all that... They can keep it.
I'll keep my tin roof and gravel roads. Never was good at putting on airs. But you're right - They've got problems galore. I wouldn't be moneyed if you paid me. **nononono*
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WELL PUT. AGREED.
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Happened to be looking, earlier today, at the mountains above Hobart, Tasmania . . . looked inviting. Sigh. LOL.
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Look, @Quix. You don't have to take the abuse all onto yourself. We can share. I'll be the psychotic. (had lots of practice) You be the idiot. (also I have had lots of practice) We can trade at any time. LOL
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Sounds reasonable, to me.
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Perhaps alternating odd/even days would work. LOLOL. Or odd/even months.
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It is nice, though, that some have provided rather strong hints at where their values and allegiances lie.
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Some I'd already guessed at, as you know.
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One of the big players, IMO, is the House of Saud. I think they pull the strings of the bush clan, more than the bush clan be a top contender.
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It seems to me that satan decided to set up the satan worshiping moon cult as a major player in the end times events. And the Saudi's are key stooges in such goals, strategies and efforts.
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They, too, will find that they bet on the wrong camel . . . probably too late to save their own souls.
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Mercifully, Yeshua, The Christ has been presenting Himself to millions of Muslims around the world in visions and visitations--sometimes with whole villages being so impacted and becoming Christians overnight. Then, they have to find Bibles to learn who this Personage really was/is. . . . a hazardous thing to do in their regions.
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Sounds reasonable, to me.
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Perhaps alternating odd/even days would work. LOLOL. Or odd/even months.
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It is nice, though, that some have provided rather strong hints at where their values and allegiances lie.
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Some I'd already guessed at, as you know.
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I think we should only be psychotic on the even months. Psychotic on the odd days/months sounds a little odd. Probably more than these people can handle.
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I think we should only be psychotic on the even months. Psychotic on the odd days/months sounds a little odd. Probably more than these people can handle.
LOLOL.
I'm not convinced that 'these folks' can handle much in such spheres.
There is sooooooo much 'knee-jerk' aversion to even beginning to face the evidence about such issues, forces, topics--it's sad.
They might wish far sooner than any of us would want--that they had paid more attention along the way . . . when they are having to make life/death decisions in a context that's utterly chaotic and well populated with horrific and extremely unprecedented creatures and forces.
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Happened to be looking, earlier today, at the mountains above Hobart, Tasmania . . . looked inviting. Sigh. LOL.
Ahh, but I live in surpassing beauty right here where I am. If I never get 100 miles from right here where I am, it will be fine with me. I am partial to the mountains of New Zealand... But then I look out my window. :shrug:
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Ahh, but I live in surpassing beauty right here where I am. If I never get 100 miles from right here where I am, it will be fine with me. I am partial to the mountains of New Zealand... But then I look out my window. :shrug:
Yeah, I like NZ mountains, too.
Your area . . . Yellowstone . . . is a bit concerning.
Actually, the whole Northern hemisphere is more than a little concerning. LOL.
But then I don't like a lot of the critters in Oz, either.
And, when China takes over Oz, they would probably insure that included Tasmania, too. LOL.
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Your area . . . Yellowstone . . . is a bit concerning.
Nah... Yellowstone is a long way away from here... providing the likely eastward weather track. We might feel it, but that's about it. I'd be more worried if Mt Ranier or Mt. Hood go off.
Actually, the whole Northern hemisphere is more than a little concerning. LOL.
Yeah, but where you going to go? My folks have land (pretty big land) in Costa Rica, so we could bug out there... But what's a mountain hillbilly got to do with that? I can't walk off into the tropical jungle. I'd be dead in a week.
But I can walk off here. With 3000 ft of bedrock under my feet, and high country that is nigh on impassable... Not to mention more guns per square inch than anywhere on the planet.
Nah. If the good things that are America go down, there will be no where to run. I am better off right here.
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Nah... Yellowstone is a long way away from here... providing the likely eastward weather track. We might feel it, but that's about it. I'd be more worried if Mt Ranier or Mt. Hood go off.
Yeah, but where you going to go? My folks have land (pretty big land) in Costa Rica, so we could bug out there... But what's a mountain hillbilly got to do with that? I can't walk off into the tropical jungle. I'd be dead in a week.
But I can walk off here. With 3000 ft of bedrock under my feet, and high country that is nigh on impassable... Not to mention more guns per square inch than anywhere on the planet.
Nah. If the good things that are America go down, there will be no where to run. I am better off right here.
Sounds reasonable.
Folks going to other countries seem to ignore social realities. They'd need to have been there a decade or 3 AND to have worked their way into some extremely secure mutual relationships with locals who have some power AND who are trustworthy--seriously trustworthy.
When push comes to shove, the locals will likely be happy to offer up the expats for whatever price of a cup of coffee is offered, at the time.
. . . or just kill them to get them out of the way and take their goods and land.
Sounds like you have a good enough location. Though I think you might want to keep track of Mt Baker, too.
I was in Spokane when the ash fell from Mt St Helens. Dark at 11:00 in the morning was . . . quite an experience. As was staying inside and not starting the car for some days.
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Folks going to other countries seem to ignore social realities. They'd need to have been there a decade or 3 AND to have worked their way into some extremely secure mutual relationships with locals who have some power AND who are trustworthy--seriously trustworthy.
When push comes to shove, the locals will likely be happy to offer up the expats for whatever price of a cup of coffee is offered, at the time.
We'd probably be alright. My BIL is native, and from the small village where the land is... He is El Jefe around there, and has been extremely good to them (as I have been told). Loyalty would not be a problem. But everything else down there will kill you.
Sounds like you have a good enough location.
Yep. The Rockies, the High Plains (WY), the desert, and the high desert... Maybe the Ozarks... Other than that, the big swamps. I'd say Appalachia, but there's way too many people there - I think they'd be overrun (No place east of the Big Muddy). But if you live in those good places, and have the knowledge to walk off, You'll probably stand the best chance.
Though I think you might want to keep track of Mt Baker, too.
sure. all of those free standing cone volcanoes west of here (and a couple here too)....
I was in Spokane when the ash fell from Mt St Helens. Dark at 11:00 in the morning was . . . quite an experience. As was staying inside and not starting the car for some days.
I know all about it... It was my graduation from high school. Had to move it inside. There was 3-4" of ash everywhere. I remember plowing it off the feed lot and driveway. Jumpy horses all stuffed in the barn... Washing hay to get the ash off before we fed them. I wore a wet bandana on my face for two weeks. That was a bucket of suck.
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@Quix @roamer_1
FWIW, I am probably less than a 100 miles from Yellowstone--as the magma flies. That sucker decides to blow I ain't running away. I'm running straight for the epicenter.
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@Quix @roamer_1
FWIW, I am probably less than a 100 miles from Yellowstone--as the magma flies. That sucker decides to blow I ain't running away. I'm running straight for the epicenter.
No need to run anywhere... 100 miles is in the dead zone, I think. So relax.
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No need to run anywhere... 100 miles is in the dead zone, I think. So relax.
Yeah, flying magma, pyroclastic blasts & flows etc are not all that friendly to humans and other living things.
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Sounds great. I hope they all do well . . . at what elevation is the land and how far from the coast and from the nearest hazardous volcano?
We'd probably be alright. My BIL is native, and from the small village where the land is... He is El Jefe around there, and has been extremely good to them (as I have been told). Loyalty would not be a problem. But everything else down there will kill you.
Yep. The Rockies, the High Plains (WY), the desert, and the high desert... Maybe the Ozarks... Other than that, the big swamps. I'd say Appalachia, but there's way too many people there - I think they'd be overrun (No place east of the Big Muddy). But if you live in those good places, and have the knowledge to walk off, You'll probably stand the best chance.
sure. all of those free standing cone volcanoes west of here (and a couple here too)....
I know all about it... It was my graduation from high school. Had to move it inside. There was 3-4" of ash everywhere. I remember plowing it off the feed lot and driveway. Jumpy horses all stuffed in the barn... Washing hay to get the ash off before we fed them. I wore a wet bandana on my face for two weeks. That was a bucket of suck.
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Just watched this one. Pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNN_LpmOnH4
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British Royalty has nothing to do with actual power. The others you mentioned are merely rich. I tend to disagree that the bushes are in the top 5.
@bigheadfred
The Bush Crime Family are involved at about the same level as a family butler. Prescott Bush Sr married into the Harriman family. They bought him a seat in the US Senate for falling on his sword over laundering Nazi money during WW-2.
Yeah,they have made a LOT of money and have a lot of influence through marriage,but they are stricktly second string. The big boys and girls are never mentioned and their photos are never published. People like Bush,the Kennedy Klan,the Gores,etc,etc,etc are just their public faces to draw attention away from them.
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One of the big players, IMO, is the House of Saud. I think they pull the strings of the bush clan, more than the bush clan be a top contender.
@bigheadfred
IF they had any grass,they could make a phone call and the Bush Brats would come over and cut it for them. It was the Sauds that bought Boy Jorge out of bankruptcy in the oil bidnez and then hired him at a 6 figure salary as an "Advisor". That's how he got the money to buy the Texas Rangers and kick off his political career.
WTH hires someone that went bankrupt in that business to work as an advisor?
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@bigheadfred
IF they had any grass,they could make a phone call and the Bush Brats would come over and cut it for them. It was the Sauds that bought Boy Jorge out of bankruptcy in the oil bidnez and then hired him at a 6 figure salary as an "Advisor". That's how he got the money to buy the Texas Rangers and kick off his political career.
WTH hires someone that went bankrupt in that business to work as an advisor?
WTH hires someone that went bankrupt in that business to work as an advisor?
Is that a trick question? Ok, nothing ventured...the Sauds? :laugh:
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Just watched this one. Pretty good.
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Yeah.
A decent one.
Thanks.
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@bigheadfred
The Bush Crime Family are involved at about the same level as a family butler. Prescott Bush Sr married into the Harriman family. They bought him a seat in the US Senate for falling on his sword over laundering Nazi money during WW-2.
Yeah,they have made a LOT of money and have a lot of influence through marriage,but they are stricktly second string. The big boys and girls are never mentioned and their photos are never published. People like Bush,the Kennedy Klan,the Gores,etc,etc,etc are just their public faces to draw attention away from them.
I, too, have trouble believing the Bush family is as high on the food chain as that source believes.
However, I've not rubbed shoulders or anything else with such characters and don't plan to.
Evidently Granddaddy Bush was high enough up to be a major player supporting Hitler. Could easily be merely a useful idiot stooge of the real elite, though.