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LISTEN: Rush Limbaugh Attempts To Defend Himself Against Accusations Of Selling Out
Posted at 9:00 am on June 22, 2017 by Susan Wright
Rush Limbaugh is gone.
Many have realized that for some time, and his shtick has long since worn thin. I personally gave up on him during the primaries, when conservatives had such a wealth of good choices to go with as nominee, but Limbaugh began gushing like a 13-year old girl at a One Direction concert over Donald Trump… the bottom of the bottom of the barrel!
Limbaugh’s show has devolved into a long, ridiculous fan club newsletter for Trump, and it’s hard to imagine anybody still hanging in with him, unless they are either part of Trump’s MAGA club, or they’re just a glutton for punishment.
On Wednesday, Limbaugh used his show to scoff at the notion of an “alt-right,” and to suggest that he was being labeled “not conservative” for not trying to take Trump out.
Victimhood used to be something we (conservatives) accused leftists of wearing like a cloak.
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AUDIO AT LINK
http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/06/22/listen-rush-limbaugh-attempts-defend-accusations-selling/ (http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/06/22/listen-rush-limbaugh-attempts-defend-accusations-selling/)
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On Wednesday, Limbaugh used his show to scoff at the notion of an “alt-right,” and to suggest that he was being labeled “not conservative” for not trying to take Trump out.
Only idiots and embarrassed members are still trying to sell the fantasy that there is no alt right amd no one was asking him or anyone else to "Take Trump out". All any of us ever asked for from the once conservative media was honesty. Instead we got lying and promotion of their rich buddy.
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Oh boy, Red State says that. Well, that settles it. Maybe next we can listen to Ben Shapiro or the other true sell outs.
I guess Red State is disappointed they aren't part of the movement that has tossed the democrats out on their ears. Must be mad seeing Obama's legacy dismantled.
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@Frank Cannon have you taken your Blood Pressure Meds yet?
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From the article:
To begin with, the alt-right is a thing, Rush. An ugly, twisted, anti-conservative, anti-liberal, anti-intellectual thing. Trump spoke directly to their confused minds, and brought along their pied piper, Steve Bannon, to keep them dancing on the end of a string called “nationalism.”
Like a pack of slobbering, wild dogs, Trump tossed them chunks of meat, and they proceeded to tear up everything in their path.
Limbaugh, like other so-called “conservative” voices had the platform to speak out against the race to the bottom that Trump and his madness represented. He chose not to, however. Instead, he, Fox News, and too many other talking heads immediately abandoned principle and reason to board the Trump train.
YEP.
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Only idiots and embarrassed members are still trying to sell the fantasy that there is no alt right amd no one was asking him or anyone else to "Take Trump out". All any of us ever asked for from the once conservative media was honesty. Instead we got lying and promotion of their rich buddy.
From my perspective I see Rush as having been TOTALLY honest! I personally heard him say MANY TIMES that Trump was not ideological and thus not a conservative! He also pointed out several times that if you were conservative you had only one choice in this primary and that choice is TED CRUZ!
You can deny that he did those things till hell freezes over if you want but it will not change the FACT that he did them!
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@CatherineofAragon
You might enjoy this follow up to the Shapiro piece.
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
^ THIS.
Limbaugh can do all the justifying he wants to about why he did not sell the principles he preached for decades down the river for a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat.
I'm not listening to him anymore and consider him as much a fraud to Conservatism as I do Joel Osteen and Benny Hinn frauds of Christianity.
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
Rush has ALWAYS maintained that he has an audience ONLY because he is on the radio validating things most people already know! I agree with him!
You can't find that very many places in media now days! MOST of the media is too busy trying to influence what you think!
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I guess, my brother. :shrug:
Never seen the appeal of sitting in the choir, myself. Not much cop with harmony. :laugh:
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
I don't call Limbaugh or others "sell outs" because I don't believe they're conservative in the first place. They've made a living pitching conservatism as if it were some kind of miracle over the counter drug when its clearly not.
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I guess, my brother. :shrug:
Never seen the appeal of sitting in the choir, myself. Not much cop with harmony. :laugh:
We are not disagreeing but Rush has made millions off of those who NEED to hear someone on the radio validating their thoughts.
He is also providing a VERY valuable service in writing children's books that teach history long since dropped from the curriculum of our government centers of indoctrination AKA public schools!
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
I am still listening to Shapiro... But not any other that I can think of.
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I don't call Limbaugh or others "sell outs" because I don't believe they're conservative in the first place. They've made a living pitching conservatism as if it were some kind of miracle over the counter drug when its clearly not.
Yes conservatism is a false theory right. It doesnt work. its evil
Thats what they teach up there right?
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From my perspective I see Rush as having been TOTALLY honest! I personally heard him say MANY TIMES that Trump was not ideological and thus not a conservative! He also pointed out several times that if you were conservative you had only one choice in this primary and that choice is TED CRUZ!
You can deny that he did those things till hell freezes over if you want but it will not change the FACT that he did them!
I have more respect for Rush now then before the election. He didn't take sides until after the primaries although he did tend towards Cruz.
Rush is a businessman not a religious leader. I figure we can work with what we have and move this country back from the abyss or we can sit and throw a temper tantrum.
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I have more respect for Rush now then before the election. He didn't take sides until after the primaries although he did tend towards Cruz.
Rush is a businessman not a religious leader. I figure we can work with what we have and move this country back from the abyss or we can sit and throw a temper tantrum.
I don't think it's any longer a matter of CAN it has become a MUST work with what we have! If we allow the left to take Trump down it's all over at least for what remains of MY lifetime!
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I figure we can work with what we have and move this country back from the abyss or we can sit and throw a temper tantrum.
:silly:
Now that's funny, considering the advent of a new phrase: Trumper tantrum.
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:silly:
Now that's funny, considering the advent of a new phrase: Trumper tantrum.
No worries mate! Just like always, the rest of us will do it for you!
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Red State does not even allow discussion there, the NTs need their safe spaces. 8888crybaby
They have comments but whom they allow is very limited.
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From my perspective I see Rush as having been TOTALLY honest! I personally heard him say MANY TIMES that Trump was not ideological and thus not a conservative! He also pointed out several times that if you were conservative you had only one choice in this primary and that choice is TED CRUZ!
You can deny that he did those things till hell freezes over if you want but it will not change the FACT that he did them!
It was exactly as you say.
However, I wish Rush would stop with the Nevertrump references. It doesn't matter if there are those to whom Trump can do absolutely no good - at some point we need to stop highlighting divisions on our side.
Obviously Rush is personally irritated with those who've been openly critical of his failure to walk the conservative talk during the primaries, but today he's not doing his own purported agenda any favors with these references. We really need to put this behind us.
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Sadly there are still fools here who hang on his every word.
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It was exactly as you say.
However, I wish Rush would stop with the Nevertrump references. It doesn't matter if there are those to whom Trump can do absolutely no good - at some point we need to stop highlighting divisions on our side.
Obviously Rush is personally irritated with those who've been openly critical of his failure to walk the conservative walk during the primaries, but today he's not doing his own purported agenda any favors with these references. We really need to put this behind us.
Thank you! I fully agree with all that you said! We ALL need to drop the "never Trump" business now and get on with it!
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YEP.
The liars that write for Red State are vile people.
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The Red State hate is on display this morning.
If someone posted a Huffpo or Brietbart piece I wouldn't disparage the Author or the originating website, I probably wouldn't even click on the article not trusting the veracity of the report, but that's just me and I've been discombobulated of late.
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However, I wish Rush would stop with the Nevertrump references. It doesn't matter if there are those to whom Trump can do absolutely no good - at some point we need to stop highlighting divisions on our side.
"Our side"? I do not think that exists anymore and Rush and the GOP and the Trump Faithful have made that perfectly clear. We were told to shut up, get on the train or get out.
So - they are not on 'my side' and the division they put there - is one they continually reinforce.
Obviously Rush is personally irritated with those who've been openly critical of his failure to walk the conservative talk during the primaries, but today he's not doing his own purported agenda any favors with these references. We really need to put this behind us.
By ignoring the fact that Conservative principles are no longer seen to be valid or of importance enough to effect policy?
"Limbaugh even went on to say on his Wednesday show that he saw no one in that vast bench of talent at the beginning of the primary season who could beat Hillary Clinton"
Which means Limbaugh never really believed his statement that Conservatism works every single time it's tried, and that principles matter above all else and will win every single time they are tried and expounded.
Instead he went with a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat as the ONLY person who could 'beat' Hildabeast.
So I listen to him no more and pay him no regard as any voice of Conservatism.
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From my perspective I see Rush as having been TOTALLY honest! I personally heard him say MANY TIMES that Trump was not ideological and thus not a conservative! He also pointed out several times that if you were conservative you had only one choice in this primary and that choice is TED CRUZ!
You can deny that he did those things till hell freezes over if you want but it will not change the FACT that he did them!
I am in total agreement with @Bigun here. What I heard coming from Rush during the primaries was someone who clearly didn't want to endorse any candidate. He even said so at one point, because he was getting flack from the supporters of various candidates. After Trump won the primary, Rush did get behind him. Throughout it all he went after Hillary.
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I am in total agreement with @Bigun here. What I heard coming from Rush during the primaries was someone who clearly didn't want to endorse any candidate. He even said so at one point, because he was getting flack from the supporters of various candidates. After Trump won the primary, Rush did get behind him. Throughout it all he went after Hillary.
If you cannot trust the well-reasoned opinion of a guy who literally ends every single sentence in an exclamation point, who can you trust right?
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The liars that write for Red State are vile people.
What he said is perfectly true.
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when conservatives had such a wealth of good choices to go with as nominee,
Sure thing PinkState. Let's see....we had Grahamnesty, JEB!, Kasich, Rubio, Christie Creme. So many Awesome severely Conservative WINNERS to choose from.
Eff you PinkState, you pile of worthless horse shit. You guys were pimping for garbage like the exposed fraud McMuffin. You have no credibility and only Glenn Beck flakes even take you seriously anymore.
#MAGA
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
I've removed your insult.
Folks, let's show some restraint.
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No worries mate! Just like always, the rest of us will do it for you!
Knock yourself out.
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Is that old windbag still on the air?
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I am in total agreement with @Bigun here. What I heard coming from Rush during the primaries was someone who clearly didn't want to endorse any candidate. He even said so at one point, because he was getting flack from the supporters of various candidates. After Trump won the primary, Rush did get behind him. Throughout it all he went after Hillary.
That's the same shtick he runs with in every election. I can hunt down his 2012 interview with Greta Van Sustren where he declared Rick Santorum to be the only true conservative in the race BUT....
He should drop the act and just come out and say he really doesn't care about social issues as long as they leave his money alone. At least that would be honest. While he's at it, Limbaugh, Hannity, and others should drop their false outrage over the "fake media". They're from the same litter of pups and are no different than anyone else. Their claim to be different is about as valid as Newt's claim to be a DC outsider.
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I still love Rush for many reasons, not the least of which is that he makes lefties' heads explode. They literally HATE him. They have that in common with quite a few Trump-bashers here. And Rush is, as usual, laughing all the way to the bank.... as his bashers continue to flail blindly at him. That's the reality. Suck on it, lefties. Suck on it good and hard.
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I still love Rush for many reasons, not the least of which is that he makes lefties' heads explode. They literally HATE him. They have that in common with quite a few Trump-bashers here. And Rush is, as usual, laughing all the way to the bank.... as his bashers continue to flail blindly at him. That's the reality. Suck on it, lefties. Suck on it good and hard.
000hehehehe
You go, girl!
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I still love Rush for many reasons, not the least of which is that he makes lefties' heads explode. They literally HATE him. They have that in common with quite a few Trump-bashers here. And Rush is, as usual, laughing all the way to the bank.... as his bashers continue to flail blindly at him. That's the reality. Suck on it, lefties. Suck on it good and hard.
888high58888 888high58888 888high58888
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I'm good with that. Rush is, as you correctly say, laughing all the way to the bank. Without my money. :whistle:
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Rush is a smart guy and fun to listen to. And I think that, on most things, he says what he believes. But he's always said that he's an entertainer first and foremost. That means he doesn't report the news, he spins and comments on it.
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What I heard coming from Rush during the primaries was someone who clearly didn't want to endorse any candidate. He even said so at one point, because he was getting flack from the supporters of various candidates. After Trump won the primary, Rush did get behind him. Throughout it all he went after Hillary.
That sounds about right to me. Entertainers don't take sides in primary battles. Why alienate a large chunk of one's audience?
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That sounds about right to me. Entertainers don't take sides in primary battles. Why alienate a large chunk of one's audience?
Why would any media person take a side contrary to the majority of their customer base?
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Without my money. :whistle:
yep. ever since Romney.
Nevermore.
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"Our side"? I do not think that exists anymore and Rush and the GOP and the Trump Faithful have made that perfectly clear. We were told to shut up, get on the train or get out.
So - they are not on 'my side' and the division they put there - is one they continually reinforce.
By ignoring the fact that Conservative principles are no longer seen to be valid or of importance enough to effect policy?
Which means Limbaugh never really believed his statement that Conservatism works every single time it's tried, and that principles matter above all else and will win every single time they are tried and expounded.
Instead he went with a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat as the ONLY person who could 'beat' Hildabeast.
So I listen to him no more and pay him no regard as any voice of Conservatism.
With his disposal of the term 'conservative' it does seem like Limbaugh has thrown in with the populists.
I'd be interested to hear from him what he thinks 'conservative' means these days - I hear him applying the inappropriately & almost derogatorily all the time, as if referred simply to an opposing political faction rather than being an overarching political and social philosophy.
What does he believe? Does he think our medical insurance system needs to take care of everybody? Is he a economic Keynesian now?
Maybe he has only been an entertainer all along.
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With his disposal of the term 'conservative' it does seem like Limbaugh has thrown in with the populists.
I'd be interested to hear from him what he thinks 'conservative' means these days - I hear him applying the inappropriately & almost derogatorily all the time, as if referred simply to an opposing political faction rather than being an overarching political and social philosophy.
What does he believe? Does he think our medical insurance system needs to take care of everybody? Is he a economic Keynesian now?
Maybe he has only been an entertainer all along.
I think so. I think Rush demonstrated that what really matters the most is being able to charge confiscatory advertising rates and garnering the biggest audience and I think he assumed (perhaps correctly) that the majority of Americans are no longer interested in Conservatism or Conservative Principles - and would prefer Populism and Socialism if packaged correctly.
I think some of the discourse on this board and other formerly "Conservative" forums is a good indicator of that fact. America has already been fundamentally transformed via decades of incrementalism and Conservatism is either rejected or seen as inadequate to provide what the people want.
So Rush may have the pulse of what is now Populist Social Nationalism, but those of us who were led to believe Limbaugh actually believed in what he preached for decades have learned it was all an act for ratings and self-promotion.
I wish I had all the money back that I spent on the decades of being a Limbaugh letter subscriber and 24/7 member.
Walking away from betrayal is becoming a learned practice these days.
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Walking away from betrayal is becoming a learned practice these days.
Like never before.
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I have more respect for Rush now then before the election. He didn't take sides until after the primaries although he did tend towards Cruz.
Rush is a businessman not a religious leader. I figure we can work with what we have and move this country back from the abyss or we can sit and throw a temper tantrum.
No, he didn't. During the primaries, he would say he admires Cruz and then spend the next 2.9 hours speaking about Trump in glowing terms.
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No, he didn't. During the primaries, he would say he admires Cruz and then spend the next 2.9 hours speaking about Trump in glowing terms.
I remember when a woman called into his show during the primary and said that if Trump was the nominee, she could not in good conscience vote for Trump and would go third party - and Rush said plain as day : "Then you are voting for Hillary" - upon which I immediately turned off his show and never again put it on after decades of being a loyal listener.
But I saw the handwriting on the wall. I had cancelled my 24/7 membership about a month prior to that call, and after I heard that - I was done with him period.
Limbaugh is a party loyalist before he has fealty to the principles he paid lip service to all those years apparently.
In fact, they all do. Levin was the last one I held onto listening to, and finally couldn't when he too revealed he was all talk after repeatedly warning the GOP he was an inch from leaving their party - only to insist all of us vote for them and for Trump.
I can say that I feel a whole lot better having given talk radio the heave-to, and the only time I get my blood pressure up is when I have to read all the stupidity rather than hearing a steady diet of it 6 or more hours a day.
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I remember when a woman called into his show during the primary and said that if Trump was the nominee, she could not in good conscience vote for Trump and would go third party - and Rush said plain as day : "Then you are voting for Hillary" - upon which I immediately turned off his show and never again put it on after decades of being a loyal listener.
But I saw the handwriting on the wall. I had cancelled my 24/7 membership about a month prior to that call, and after I heard that - I was done with him period.
Limbaugh is a party loyalist before he has fealty to the principles he paid lip service to all those years apparently.
In fact, they all do. Levin was the last one I held onto listening to, and finally couldn't when he too revealed he was all talk after repeatedly warning the GOP he was an inch from leaving their party - only to insist all of us vote for them and for Trump.
I can say that I feel a whole lot better having given talk radio the heave-to, and the only time I get my blood pressure up is when I have to read all the stupidity rather than hearing a steady diet of it 6 or more hours a day.
I still listen to Levin. He's been very even-handed and consistent.
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Yeah, he sold out and lost plenty of listeners like me.
Water over the bridge at this point. Not worth worrying about it.
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Yeah, he sold out and lost plenty of listeners like me.
Water over the bridge at this point. Not worth worrying about it.
Agreed. Rush who?
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Is that old windbag still on the air?
:silly:
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@TomSea
@jpsb
@roamer_1
@Frank Cannon
This is not an editorial by RedState. It is an article by one Susan Wright who, to me, has a blind hatred of Trump.
I don't know if she is representative of the overall attitude at RedState.
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I still listen to Levin. He's been very even-handed and consistent.
Mark Levin is the best. I listen to him regularly. He gives Trump credit when its due. He gives much more information than the normal talk show hosts.
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@Sanguine
@LilLamb
Mark Levin is the best. I listen to him regularly. He gives Trump credit when its due. He gives much more information than the normal talk show hosts.
Ditto that. (I used to say ditto to most of what Rush said, but not so much anymore.)
I also have to confess that Rush's over-the-top support of Trump did not surprise me--same with Hannity's occasionally poor judgment in that regard.
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@CatherineofAragon
You might enjoy this follow up to the Shapiro piece.
@Cripplecreek
Rush is a fraud. I remember the day during the campaign when a caller asked him why he refused to talk about Trump's undeniable liberal history, and he began to detail it. Rush's response dripped with sarcasm and condescension. He laughed at the caller, pretty much mocked his opinion, and cut off the call without ever responding to the guy's points. At the time, I was doing something in the bedroom, folding clothes or something, and I recall stopping and listening, fascinated. I never tuned in again. I didn't listen every day because I found him stale and boring at times, but that was it for me.
I was told here that one call doesn't mean anything. Well, yes, it does. Rush got called on his refusal to address Trump's progressivism, he responded like someone who was caught, and didn't address the issue. How many more calls would it have taken to make it plain?
My husband listened at work for a while longer, but then he told me he couldn't stand it anymore. Husband said that every show was one long cheerleading session for Trump, and that he constantly repeated his "you don't understand Trump, let me explain him to you" crap, over and over and over.
I keep in touch with a former TOS member who worked with Rush at times. He said Limbaugh, in his own mind, was still the unpopular fat kid who was entranced by having an "in" with the guy who might be president.
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Don't see why anyone listens to any of the talking heads. They add no value. :shrug:
@EC
I enjoy Dana Loesch, but she's the only one I listen to. I like her because she agrees with me on things outside the political sphere and because her show is drop-dead funny.
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Yes conservatism is a false theory right. It doesnt work. its evil
Thats what they teach up there right?
@driftdiver
@Cripplecreek didn't say it was evil; he said it isn't an over the counter miracle drug. There's a vast amount of territory in between those two, right?
Besides, is he wrong? If politics were the answer to everything, we wouldn't need Jesus.
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the NTs need their safe spaces.
@TomSea
Safe space...you mind like the one Trump supporters ran to on this forum during the election?
Like that?
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The liars that write for Red State are vile people.
@jpsb
Are they? Why?
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@driftdiver
@Cripplecreek didn't say it was evil; he said it isn't an over the counter miracle drug. There's a vast amount of territory in between those two, right?
Besides, is he wrong? If politics were the answer to everything, we wouldn't need Jesus.
@CatherineofAragon
Just wondering, do you seek me out to disagree with me?
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I still love Rush for many reasons, not the least of which is that he makes lefties' heads explode. They literally HATE him. They have that in common with quite a few Trump-bashers here. And Rush is, as usual, laughing all the way to the bank.... as his bashers continue to flail blindly at him. That's the reality. Suck on it, lefties. Suck on it good and hard.
@XenaLee
Like Steve Deace. Ben Shapiro, and others have said, at some point we have to move beyond "he insults liberals so he's great" and really expect something more.
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@Cripplecreek
Rush is a fraud. I remember the day during the campaign when a caller asked him why he refused to talk about Trump's undeniable liberal history, and he began to detail it. Rush's response dripped with sarcasm and condescension. He laughed at the caller, pretty much mocked his opinion, and cut off the call without ever responding to the guy's points. At the time, I was doing something in the bedroom, folding clothes or something, and I recall stopping and listening, fascinated. I never tuned in again. I didn't listen every day because I found him stale and boring at times, but that was it for me.
I was told here that one call doesn't mean anything. Well, yes, it does. Rush got called on his refusal to address Trump's progressivism, he responded like someone who was caught, and didn't address the issue. How many more calls would it have taken to make it plain?
My husband listened at work for a while longer, but then he told me he couldn't stand it anymore. Husband said that every show was one long cheerleading session for Trump, and that he constantly repeated his "you don't understand Trump, let me explain him to you" crap, over and over and over.
I keep in touch with a former TOS member who worked with Rush at times. He said Limbaugh, in his own mind, was still the unpopular fat kid who was entranced by having an "in" with the guy who might be president.
I've never paid a lot of attention to Rush but I noticed during this past election just how similar Limbaugh's speech patterns are to Trump's. Sentences that trail off into nothing. Subjects change mid sentence. Questions "answered" with more questions. Its all the same incoherent BS.
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@TomSea
@jpsb
@roamer_1
@Frank Cannon
This is not an editorial by RedState. It is an article by one Susan Wright who, to me, has a blind hatred of Trump.
I don't know if she is representative of the overall attitude at RedState.
And.... oddly enough.... I can't find any info on her at all. This Rush-hating blogger seems to be invisible, other than a twitter account - @sweetiewalker. Strange. She could be anyone IRL.
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@CatherineofAragon
Just wondering, do you seek me out to disagree with me?
@driftdiver, yes, I do...I'm busted. I've hardly been on here in two days, but I couldn't wait to get back so I could hunt you down and continue my vendetta.
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I've never paid a lot of attention to Rush but I noticed during this past election just how similar Limbaugh's speech patterns are to Trump's. Sentences that trail off into nothing. Subjects change mid sentence. Questions "answered" with more questions. Its all the same incoherent BS.
@Cripplecreek
I don't know what he was like prior to 2004 or so, but I think he's way past his sell date.
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@XenaLee
Like Steve Deace. Ben Shapiro, and others have said, at some point we have to move beyond "he insults liberals so he's great" and really expect something more.
I don't.
I detest lefties... and as long as Rush stands against them and continues to combat them via his radio show.... I'll stand by Rush. I'm just funny that way.
Rush is an entertainer. When I listen to Rush, I am entertained. It's not complex. And I don't listen to or give a damn what people like Steve Deace or Ben Shapiro tell me "we have to do".
I do what I want and listen to who I please.
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@jpsb
Are they? Why?
@CatherineofAragon
I posted this upthread:
@TomSea
@jpsb
@roamer_1
@Frank Cannon
This is not an editorial by RedState. It is an article by one Susan Wright who, to me, has a blind hatred of Trump.
I don't know if she is representative of the overall attitude at RedState.
From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedState#Notable_incidents):
In August 2015, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was disinvited from the annual RedState gathering following controversial statements he made about American journalist Megyn Kelly; Kelly was invited to the gathering instead. RedState was then one of the main centers of conservative opposition to Trump's campaign for the Presidency, with most of its writers and editors vocally opposing Trump
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I don't.
I detest lefties... and as long as Rush stands against them and continues to combat them via his radio show.... I'll stand by Rush. I'm just funny that way.
Rush is an entertainer. When I listen to Rush, I am entertained. It's not complex. And I don't listen to or give a damn what people like Steve Deace or Ben Shapiro tell me "we have to do".
I do what I want and listen to who I please.
@XenaLee
I'm happy for you.
Wanting to move beyond the game of insult politics doesn't mean a person likes liberals.
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Rush is a fraud. I remember the day during the campaign when a caller asked him why he refused to talk about Trump's undeniable liberal history, and he began to detail it. Rush's response dripped with sarcasm and condescension. He laughed at the caller, pretty much mocked his opinion, and cut off the call without ever responding to the guy's points. At the time, I was doing something in the bedroom, folding clothes or something, and I recall stopping and listening, fascinated. I never tuned in again. I didn't listen every day because I found him stale and boring at times, but that was it for me.
I was told here that one call doesn't mean anything. Well, yes, it does. Rush got called on his refusal to address Trump's progressivism, he responded like someone who was caught, and didn't address the issue. How many more calls would it have taken to make it plain?
My husband listened at work for a while longer, but then he told me he couldn't stand it anymore. Husband said that every show was one long cheerleading session for Trump, and that he constantly repeated his "you don't understand Trump, let me explain him to you" crap, over and over and over.
I keep in touch with a former TOS member who worked with Rush at times. He said Limbaugh, in his own mind, was still the unpopular fat kid who was entranced by having an "in" with the guy who might be president.
@CatherineofAragon
I loved Rush for years but his best years are behind him, far behind. I had hoped that he would retire after his contract ran out last year, but I knew that his ego would not permit it.
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I don't call Limbaugh or others "sell outs" because I don't believe they're conservative in the first place. They've made a living pitching conservatism as if it were some kind of miracle over the counter drug when its clearly not.
I realized that late in the game, @Cripplecreek . I actually thought Rush WAS a conservative until the spring of 2016 when he revealed that he truly is no more than an entertainer, choosing the populist side.
Everything he said he believed in, he threw out the window when he fell in love with Trump.
He's not a 'sell out'........ he was a complete phony before.
Now I know.
And have three lovely hours in the afternoon where I do anything but listen to the radio. He's lost a lot of listeners, but he doesn't give a rip because he probably picked up some faux conservatives who love Trump too..... :shrug:
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@XenaLee
I'm happy for you.
Wanting to move beyond the game of insult politics doesn't mean a person likes liberals.
Wanting to and actually doing so are two entirely different realities, however. As you should know (by now).....most of the insults are coming from the rabid left.... NOT from Rush Limbaugh. So good luck with that.... since the left will never ever quit with their "insult politics" strategy. It's who and what they are and have always been.
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@XenaLee
I'm happy for you.
Wanting to move beyond the game of insult politics doesn't mean a person likes liberals.
:amen:
Actually, I dislike liberals more than before, because so many of them are claiming to be on "our side."
But aren't.
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And have three lovely hours in the afternoon where I do anything but listen to the radio. He's lost a lot of listeners, but he doesn't give a rip because he probably picked up some faux conservatives who love Trump too..... :shrug:
I usually have Classic FM on. Peaceful.
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@CatherineofAragon
I posted this upthread:
@TomSea
@jpsb
@roamer_1
@Frank Cannon
This is not an editorial by RedState. It is an article by one Susan Wright who, to me, has a blind hatred of Trump.
I don't know if she is representative of the overall attitude at RedState.
From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedState#Notable_incidents):
@Machiavelli
I'm not familiar with Susan Wright and you could be right about her. I remember when Erick Erickson disinvited Trump to that gathering; he did so after Trump made the "blood coming out of her wherever" remark about Megyn Kelly. TOS went wild with hate for Erickson, and it was one of the earlier indications to me that they were going nuts over there. I think Erickson did the appropriate thing.
I'd still like to hear why @jpsb thinks Redstate is vile. They're not a Trump fan site, so I'm guessing that's it.
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@CatherineofAragon
I loved Rush for years but his best years are behind him, far behind. I had hoped that he would retire after his contract ran out last year, but I knew that his ego would not permit it.
@Machiavelli
I expect you're right. How long has he been doing that show, do you know?
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:amen:
Actually, I dislike liberals more than before, because so many of them are claiming to be on "our side."
But aren't.
@musiclady
It's part of the reason we have Trump. People loved his campaign insults. Okay, great, sometimes they were funny, and liberals are mad. What now?
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@Machiavelli
I'm not familiar with Susan Wright and you could be right about her. I remember when Erick Erickson disinvited Trump to that gathering; he did so after Trump made the "blood coming out of her wherever" remark about Megyn Kelly. TOS went wild with hate for Erickson, and it was one of the earlier indications to me that they were going nuts over there. I think Erickson did the appropriate thing.
I'd still like to hear why @jpsb thinks Redstate is vile. They're not a Trump fan site, so I'm guessing that's it.
I'm sure that's all there is to it.
The other day he came right out and said he hated us.
If Red State doesn't like Trump, he hates them. Period. **nononono*
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@musiclady
@Sanguine @musiclady
It's part of the reason we have Trump. People loved his campaign insults. Okay, great, sometimes they were funny, and liberals are mad. What now?
@CatherineofAragon, your two-word question hits the problematical nail right on the head!
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@Machiavelli
I'm not familiar with Susan Wright and you could be right about her. I remember when Erick Erickson disinvited Trump to that gathering; he did so after Trump made the "blood coming out of her wherever" remark about Megyn Kelly.
I thought the comment by Trump was vile and inexcusable, and even though I now support him, I still think so.
TOS went wild with hate for Erickson, and it was one of the earlier indications to me that they were going nuts over there.
Those who went that way are cultists. Conservatives should not be cultists.
I think Erickson did the appropriate thing.
I don't. I thought it was sanctimonious to dis-invite Trump.
I'd still like to hear why @jpsb thinks Redstate is vile. They're not a Trump fan site, so I'm guessing that's it.
I think you may be onto something. ^-^
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@musiclady
It's part of the reason we have Trump. People loved his campaign insults. Okay, great, sometimes they were funny, and liberals are mad. What now?
During the campaign they were speaking in glowing terms of those wonderful crossover voters who were voting for Trump.
As it is Trump's unelected idiot daughter is now pushing for universal child care/maternity leave while her idiot father is telling the unions to come see him because his door is always open to them.
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@musiclady
It's part of the reason we have Trump. People loved his campaign insults. Okay, great, sometimes they were funny, and liberals are mad. What now?
It seemed to me that that's why Rush fell head over heels with Trump. He insulted people.
But you're right to ask, @CatherineofAragon . What now? The liberals are furious. Where does someone who claims to be a 'leader' go from there?
It's satisfying in a visceral way to stick the libs in the eye, but what does it do toward accomplishing conservative goals?
Once I realized that Rush didn't really have conservative goals, I understood what had happened to him, and why I no longer could listen.
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How long has he been doing that show, do you know?
IIRC, his national program began in August of 1988.
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@musiclady
@Sanguine
@CatherineofAragon, your two-word question hits the problematical nail right on the head!
@the_doc
Thank you.
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IIRC, his national program began in August of 1988.
@Machiavelli
Anybody would become stale after thirty years.
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It seemed to me that that's why Rush fell head over heels with Trump. He insulted people.
Actually Rush never "fell head over heels" with candidate Trump ... or anyone else. He actually gave quite a bit of airtime to Cruz and Rubio during the primaries.
Once it looked like Trump had the nomination locked up, Rush was relieved. During this segment on his show, if you'd actually listened to it, you would have heard him explain why: Rush always felt Donald Trump was the only Republican who could beat Hillary Clinton in the national election. Nothing more and nothing less.
And, Rush was right. No need to second guess him now. ^-^
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@the_doc
Thank you.
Yes, Catherine is always good with words.
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This is not an editorial by RedState. It is an article by one Susan Wright who, to me, has a blind hatred of Trump.
I don't know if she is representative of the overall attitude at RedState.
@Machiavelli
I almost replied previously, but let it go.
Your argument is ad-hominem. On point is not whether Wright or RedState, or even 'Trump hate'...
The argument is whether the accusation is true or not.
Accusation naturally comes from detractors - Especially so in Trumps case. Had we only the view of his fans, the only argument would be whether his flatulence smells of Marigold or Lilac.
@CatherineofAragon
@jpsb
@Frank Cannon
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During the campaign they were speaking in glowing terms of those wonderful crossover voters who were voting for Trump.
As it is Trump's unelected idiot daughter is now pushing for universal child care/maternity leave while her idiot father is telling the unions to come see him because his door is always open to them.
@Cripplecreek
Ivanka's child care dealings are kept pretty quiet, aren't they...
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It seemed to me that that's why Rush fell head over heels with Trump. He insulted people.
But you're right to ask, @CatherineofAragon . What now? The liberals are furious. Where does someone who claims to be a 'leader' go from there?
It's satisfying in a visceral way to stick the libs in the eye, but what does it do toward accomplishing conservative goals?
Once I realized that Rush didn't really have conservative goals, I understood what had happened to him, and why I no longer could listen.
@musiclady, you're exactly right--it is satisfying in a visceral way. As someone who has temper issues, I get that, lol. But I'm afraid we're going to let the crooks in Washington slide by without getting things done because we're preoccupied with scoring points off progressives.
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Yes, Catherine is always good with words.
@Sanguine, that's really nice of you...thank you. Lord knows there are lots of people on the forum who are better.
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I thought the comment by Trump was vile and inexcusable, and even though I now support him, I still think so.
Those who went that way are cultists. Conservatives should not be cultists.
I don't. I thought it was sanctimonious to dis-invite Trump.
I think you may be onto something. ^-^
@Machiavelli
I would never mistake you for a cultist. As for Erickson, he attends seminary, so I understand his motivation for cutting Trump from the list.
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@jpsb
Are they? Why?
@CatherineofAragon
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3279/The-Rights-Trump-Lexicon.aspx
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@driftdiver, yes, I do...I'm busted. I've hardly been on here in two days, but I couldn't wait to get back so I could hunt you down and continue my vendetta.
@CatherineofAragon
Well thanks for the patronizing response. I really appreciate you butting into discussions which have nothing to do with you. Just so you can defend someone you thought was wronged.
Where were you when @Cripplecreek was calling me a pedophile and terrorist just because I disagreed with him?
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@CatherineofAragon
Well thanks for the patronizing response. I really appreciate you butting into discussions which have nothing to do with you. Just so you can defend someone you thought was wronged.
Where were you when @Cripplecreek was calling me a pedophile and terrorist just because I disagreed with him?
Um, gonna butt in here. I think it was a no-longer-here member who called you those names, and any member is free to comment on any thread here. What am I missing?
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Um, gonna butt in here. I think it was a no-longer-here member who called you those names, and any member is free to comment on any thread here. What am I missing?
I'd like to see that post myself.
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@CatherineofAragon
Well thanks for the patronizing response. I really appreciate you butting into discussions which have nothing to do with you. Just so you can defend someone you thought was wronged.
Where were you when @Cripplecreek was calling me a pedophile and terrorist just because I disagreed with him?
@driftdiver
Wasn't meant to be patronizing. I haven't kept count of how many times I've disagreed with you, or not, so your post struck me as odd. Anyway, we all disagree a lot here, don't we?
As for butting in, this is a public forum and I'll continue to post to whomever I like, whether or not I'm directly addressed first. Hope you can deal with that.
Where was I...? Elsewhere, clearly.
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@CatherineofAragon
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3279/The-Rights-Trump-Lexicon.aspx
@jpsb
So it's what I expected---Redstate is "vile" because it isn't a Trump fan site.
By the way, I really hope you, as a Trump supporter, aren't going to raise objections to harsh/crude language, because I can lay down chapter and verse concerning Trump's mouth. Just a couple of more recent examples include his his p-grabbing remark, and the dubious achievement of being the first presidential candidate insecure enough to mention the size of his genitals on a worldwide stage.
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@jpsb
So it's what I expected---Redstate is "vile" because it isn't a Trump fan site.
By the way, I really hope you, as a Trump supporter, aren't going to raise objections to harsh/crude language, because I can lay down chapter and verse concerning Trump's mouth. Just a couple of more recent examples include his his p-grabbing remark, and the dubious achievement of being the first presidential candidate insecure enough to mention the size of his genitals on a worldwide stage.
Funny how they need a fainting couch these days and even calling them snowflakes will bring a rebuke from a moderator.
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@CatherineofAragon
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3279/The-Rights-Trump-Lexicon.aspx
OK, help me out. There are two out of context quotes by a Ben Howe from Redstate, amongst the 19 pages (if you print it out) of quotes from other sites that Diana West has collected. That's your evidence? Not sure it rises to the level you described it as.
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I do what I want and listen to who I please.
Absolutely you should!
However, I do not think you are going to experience a lot of agreement or trust in what Rush says on his show anymore.
The talk radio kings have demonstrated to me (an almost 3 decades long listener), that they are merely entertainment and that they really do not believe in what they 'preach'.
So I no longer regard them (except maybe for Levin who I think has an acute case of battered wife syndrome) as voices of Conservative thought.
But you should listen to, and enjoy whomever tickles your fancy.
Which is why when I am in the dumps - I pop Spinal Tap into my player or hit their playlist on my iPod.
There is nothing close to the kinds of logic that one hears from them.
Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.
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Absolutely you should!
However, I do not think you are going to experience a lot of agreement or trust in what Rush says on his show anymore.
The talk radio kings have demonstrated to me (an almost 3 decades long listener), that they are merely entertainment and that they really do not believe in what they 'preach'.
So I no longer regard them (except maybe for Levin who I think has an acute case of battered wife syndrome) as voices of Conservative thought.
But you should listen to, and enjoy whomever tickles your fancy.
Which is why when I am in the dumps - I pop Spinal Tap into my player or hit their playlist on my iPod.
There is nothing close to the kinds of logic that one hears from them.
Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.
I'm betting you saw This Is Spinal Tap recently.
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Absolutely you should!
And I shall!
However, I do not think you are going to experience a lot of agreement or trust in what Rush says on his show anymore.
Couldn't possibly care less.
The talk radio kings have demonstrated to me (an almost 3 decades long listener), that they are merely entertainment and that they really do not believe in what they 'preach'.
They serve a very useful purpose against the left, IMO. Without them, the left would be virtually unopposed and unexposed. Thank God for the conservative radio hosts. I also listen to Rick Roberts, another radio king in my estimation. So whatever they privately believe is irrelative as long as they continue to serve the purpose of exposing the radical left.
So I no longer regard them (except maybe for Levin who I think has an acute case of battered wife syndrome) as voices of Conservative thought.
Your choice. Your call.
But you should listen to, and enjoy whomever tickles your fancy.
Always have. Always will.
Which is why when I am in the dumps - I pop Spinal Tap into my player or hit their playlist on my iPod.
There is nothing close to the kinds of logic that one hears from them.
I am unfamiliar with that.
Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.
Are you speaking from 1st hand, personal experience here? :silly:
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Susan Wright, the author of this piece is an amateur writer, she's been to be full of it.
Rush gets more listeners in one day than Red State has all year.
Wright has been shown to not know what she is talking about, example was on some gun control issue.
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I'm betting you saw This Is Spinal Tap recently.
Nope. It's been like fifteen years or more.
But it left a mark on my psyche in the funny-bone department and I have quoted many parts of it in situations that needed a laugh.
Because as you know, there is a fine line between clever.... and stupid.
Are you speaking from 1st hand, personal experience here?
I'm mostly stupid - and rarely clever (Just ask my wife). But that said, the quote of unassailable big hair and loud band logic is from the aforementioned movie.
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I'd like to see that post myself.
@Cripplecreek
My apologies it was geronl and not you. My mistake
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@Cripplecreek
My apologies it was geronl and not you. My mistake
:thumbsup:
And, he is no longer a member here.
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OK, help me out. There are two out of context quotes by a Ben Howe from Redstate, amongst the 19 pages (if you print it out) of quotes from other sites that Diana West has collected. That's your evidence? Not sure it rises to the level you described it as.
There are a number of obscene comments by other Red State's employees, former employees and contributors including the former head of Red State Eric Ericson.
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There are a number of obscene comments by other Red State's employees, former employees and contributors including the former head of Red State Eric Ericson.
@jpsb
I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson. Neither were obscene. Which ones are you referring to?
You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee.
But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what? Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what? Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up. You want chapter and verse?
Yet you think he should be above similar jabs? Why?
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@jpsb
I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson. Neither were obscene. Which ones are you referring to?
You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee.
But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what? Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what? Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up. You want chapter and verse?
Yet you think he should be above similar jabs? Why?
I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene. Arguing about Trump with a nevertrumper is not a produce use of my internet time so I am hoping we can agree to disagree.
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@jpsb
I read down that list twice, and I saw two comments by Erickson. Neither were obscene. Which ones are you referring to?
You must read RedState a lot to know who on that list is a current or former employee.
But even if the comments by Erickson were obscene, so what? Even taking into account the crudest remarks in the linked article, so what? Trump has always had an obscene mouth, and his personal behavior matched right up. You want chapter and verse?
Yet you think he should be above similar jabs? Why?
Its the neo Alinskyite standard.
Just the other day on twitter I saw a Trumper stating that "We have principles but can set them aside for the greater good of winning".
“judgment must be made “the less important the end…the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluation of means in the context of the times…”
“ethical standards must be elastic to stretch in the times.”
the “morality of means depends on whether the means is being deployed at the time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”
“judgment of the ethics of means and ends is dependant on the political position of those making the judgment.”
“in war the end justifies almost any means.” -Saul Alinsky
People who think they can create good out of Alinsky methods should never forget he dedicated a book to Satan and openly admitted that he never really intended to do any good for society, it was all about enriching himself using useful idiots.
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I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene. Arguing about Trump with a nevertrumper is not a produce use of my internet time so I am hoping we can agree to disagree.
@jpsb
So you were in the outback when the p-grabbing tape came out?
You weren't around when he became the first presidential candidate to brag about the size of his genitals to a worldwide audience?
I can go back and get you more if you want. But I understand why you feel the need to run from what I have to say. Your point of view has been exposed as completely hypocritical. So run quick, now.
Modifying this post to note that you refused to respond to the direct question about Erickson's posts.
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Its the neo Alinskyite standard.
Just the other day on twitter I saw a Trumper stating that "We have principles but can set them aside for the greater good of winning".
“judgment must be made “the less important the end…the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluation of means in the context of the times…”
“ethical standards must be elastic to stretch in the times.”
the “morality of means depends on whether the means is being deployed at the time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”
“judgment of the ethics of means and ends is dependant on the political position of those making the judgment.”
“in war the end justifies almost any means.” -Saul Alinsky
People who think they can create good out of Alinsky methods should never forget he dedicated a book to Satan and openly admitted that he never really intended to do any good for society, it was all about enriching himself using useful idiots.
Well, no one needs to waste their time trying to tell me that a man with Trump's mouth and personal history needs to be treated like Mother Theresa. That's not going to fly.
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Well, no one needs to waste their time trying to tell me that a man with Trump's mouth and personal history needs to be treated like Mother Theresa. That's not going to fly.
They went from "HE FIGHTS!!!" to needing a fainting couch with a crying towel on standby.
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I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene.
OMG. REALLY?
:silly: :silly: :silly:
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They went from "HE FIGHTS!!!" to needing a fainting couch with a crying towel on standby.
The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling. He has to be the only one of those in existence.
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OMG. REALLY?
:silly: :silly: :silly:
So it wasn't just me? LOL
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The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling. He has to be the only one of those in existence.
Oh, don't say that! Someone will pull that Al Franken in a diaper photo. **nononono*
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The ultimate alpha male who requires swaddling. He has to be the only one of those in existence.
Nah. They're all like that. Anyone who's fool enough to call themselves an alpha male, anyways. Never seen one as wasn't a petty bully and coward.
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Oh, don't say that! Someone will pull that Al Franken in a diaper photo. **nononono*
@Sanguine
Aaaand you've done it, lol. I bear no responsibility. :silly:
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Trump just attacked Amazon for not paying "internet taxes." Wonder what kind of porcine pretzel Limbaugh will contort into to spin that one.
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
BUMP THAT.
I quit listening over Romney. Same thing.
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I've never heard Trump publicly say anything obscene.
Oh yeah??? He's got plenty of 'F' bombs out there in public when talking policy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN7KHWdyrbI
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
blij26 goopo
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
Mega dittos to ALL of that.
Dumped 24/7 and then dumped his show in total about a year ago. Held onto Levin for another 4 months and decided that those talking the talk but not walking the walk was no longer someone whose words I could consider trustworthy, and turned all of talk radio off.
I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.
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I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.
That's right.
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
Bumping this post again.
Your words speak for a lot of us who have seen the complete inconsistency and betrayal of conservatism in his love for and devotion to Trump.
Once trust is lost to this degree, it cannot be regained.
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Mega dittos to ALL of that.
Dumped 24/7 and then dumped his show in total about a year ago. Held onto Levin for another 4 months and decided that those talking the talk but not walking the walk was no longer someone whose words I could consider trustworthy, and turned all of talk radio off.
I feel much better as a result of not having my blood pressure up for 6 hours a day listening to the blowhards anymore.
Luckily, my blood pressure is just fine. Perfect, in fact. And the only blowhards that ever bother me are those on the radical left side of the political aisle. And that includes the lying leftist pressholes.
Rush and others like him (like Rick Roberts, Levin, etc.) are quite effective at combating and exposing the radical leftists. I will continue to support them and tune in to them for as long as that remains a constant and a reality.
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Luckily, my blood pressure is just fine. Perfect, in fact. And the only blowhards that ever bother me are those on the radical left side of the political aisle. And that includes the lying leftist pressholes.
Rush and others like him (like Rick Roberts, Levin, etc.) are quite effective at combating and exposing the radical leftists. I will continue to support them and tune in to them for as long as that remains a constant and a reality.
You need a different avatar:
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I'm just going to repeat a comment I've made before on other threads for the sake of wasting bits and bytes, but I also know one of Rush's staff is a member here.
I am like many who shut Rush off because it was far too obvious he ignored his own principles, often in the very same breath. I lost count of the number of times Rush would go off in a rant about 'cronyism' and all its ills, then in the next breath, praise Trump as an outsider, ignoring that he built his entire empire on the exact type of cronyism and corruption he complained about not a minute before. Rush, for years rallied behind the mantra that "Conservatism wins every time its tried" and we lose when we give that up, then praised Trump for 'not being a Conservative' and that we needed to get behind populism in order to win. Rush would rant on and on about the 'donor class' like George Soros and Jeff Zuckerberg who used their money and influence to corrupt politics- showing, rightfully so, how they are very much a part of the political class, then, often in the same segment, cheered that Trump was 'not from the political class', an 'outsider', or 'not a politician', even though his career was built on the same 'donor class' tactics and actions he just trashed the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, and others for.
During the primary Rush also said things along the lines of: 'Don't worry, once Trump is elected, it is our job to keep him in check but first we have to win...', then after he is elected, he does nothing but carry the water with scant honest criticism on major shifts left or major flip flops. Even Ann Coulter, who seemed to be Adam's Apple deep up Trump's backside in the primary has not been shy about calling him out for his broken promises and leftward shift.
This is very different from others like Mark Levin who, even though he supported Trump in the general, did it for a very honest reason 'he isn't Hillary' and didn't try to sugar coat or Pravda up Trump's image and history into some myth.
Many of us want honesty and consistency- something Rush has seemed to give up.
Rush knows who butters his bread. His show is a business first and he's quite good at it.
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Rush knows who butters his bread. His show is a business first and he's quite good at it.
Yes, but what I think bothers many of us, he was, until the Donald came along, a thoughtful, reliable and thoroughly conservative pundit.
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You need a different avatar:
****sheep****
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Yes, but what I think bothers many of us, he was, until the Donald came along, a thoughtful, reliable and thoroughly conservative pundit.
Yep.
There's a difference between a conservative who entertains and an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative because he knows there's an audience.
I always thought Rush was the former.
His love for Trump proves he's the latter.
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Yep.
There's a difference between a conservative who entertains and an entertainer who pretends to be a conservative because he knows there's an audience.
I always thought Rush was the former.
His love for Trump proves he's the latter.
He and others ran to populism (Progressivism) because that's where the adoration was.
Tucker Carlson, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity were laughed at by all on TOS for years for being weak kneed moderate little sisters. Now they're all kissing the boots of Tucker Carlson because he says America shouldn't be allowing people from failed nations into the USA.
The fact is that virtually all immigrants have always come here because the nations of their birth was failing them in some way. Guys like Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein came from failing nations just like my great grandfather came from the collapsing Austro Hungarian empire
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Around 1994, Rush rewrote his 35 truths of life to account for the fall of the Soviet Union. Reading this list, it appears to be due for a rewrite as he abandoned many of these.
1. There is a distinct singular American culture - rugged individualism
and self-reliance - which made America great.
2. The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their
wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers,
and job creators.
3. No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity.
4. Evidence refutes liberalism.
5. There is no such thing as a New Democrat.
6. The Earth's eco-system is not fragile.
7. Character matters; leadership decends from character.
8. The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you
cut it down.
9. Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century.
10. The 1980s was not a decade of greed but a decade of prosperity; it was
the longest period of peacetime growth in American history.
11. Abstinence prevents sexually transmitted disease and pregnancy -every
time it's tried.
12. Condoms only work during the school year.
13. Poverty is not the root ("rut") cause of crime.
14. There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish
those who do not.
15. If you commit a crime, you are guilty.
16. Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud.
17. The way to improve our schools is not more money, but the
reintroduction of moral and spiritual values, as well as the four
"R's": reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic, and Rush.
18. I am not arrogant.
19. My first 35 Undeniable Truths are still undeniably true.
20. There is a God.
21. There is something wrong when critics say the problem with America is
too much religion.
22. Morality is not defined by individual choice.
23. The only way liberals win national elections is by pretending they're
not liberals.
24. Feminism was established as to allow unattractive women easier access
to the mainstream of society.
25. Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's
always the money.
26. Liberals attempt through judicial activism what they cannot win at the
ballot box.
27. Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been
neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds.
28. Progress is not striving for economic justice or fairness, but
economic growth.
29. Liberals measure compassion by how many people are given welfare.
Conservatives measure compassion by how many people no longer need it.
30. Compassion is no substitute for justice.
31. The culture war is between the winners and those who think they're
losers who want to become winners. The losers think the only way they
can become winners is by banding together all the losers and then
empowering a leader of the losers to make things right for them.
32. The Los Angeles riots were not caused by the Rodney King verdict. The
Los Angeles riots were caused by rioters.
33. You could afford your house without your government - if it weren't
for your government.
34. Words mean things.
35. Too many Americans can't laugh at themselves anymore.
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Around 1994, Rush rewrote his 35 truths of life to account for the fall of the Soviet Union. Reading this list, it appears to be due for a rewrite as he abandoned many of these.
1. Which ones did he abandon, and....
2. How did he abandon/why do you say he abandoned?
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LOL! That happened to me... only it was a billy goat and a stock tank...
Thanks for the memories (I think).
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LOL! That happened to me... only it was a billy goat and a stock tank...
Thanks for the memories (I think).
I wonder what's on his menu for today?
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I wonder what's on his menu for today?
That particular goat? Dunno. He had a religious conversion to Hinduism, and got a red dot on his forehead. I haven't seen him since :shrug:
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That particular goat? Dunno. He had a religious conversion to Hinduism, and got a red dot on his forehead. I haven't seen him since :shrug:
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