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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: Gefn on June 24, 2021, 10:49:08 am
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Miami-area condo collapse causes massive emergency response
SURFSIDE, Fla. (AP) — The sea-view side of a beachfront condo tower collapsed in the Miami-area town of Surfside early Thursday, drawing a massing response from emergency services.
Miami Dade Fire Rescue was conducting search and rescue operations, and said in a tweet that more than 80 units were “on scene with assistance from municipal fire departments.”
Authorities had no word yet on casualties or details of how many people lived in the building.
“We’re on the scene so it’s still very active,” said Sgt. Marian Cruz of the Surfside Police Department. “What I can tell you is the building is twelve floors. The entire back side of the building has collapsed.”
https://apnews.com/article/miami-building-collapses-25ee9ff94dd07d2a0ae3da742a6cb8dd
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Twelve-story Miami Beach apartment building collapses sparking huge search and rescue operation amid fears many people are dead or trapped in rubble
A massive rescue operation is underway after an apartment building close to Miami Beach collapsed in the early hours of this morning.
The ocean-front building, a twelve-story apartment complex called Champlain Towers South, has partially collapsed, fire rescue services have confirmed.
Neighbours say the building of around 100 apartments that sell for up to $915,000 was mostly occupied after being completed in 1981 near 88th street and Collins Avenue in Surfside, Florida. Jared and Ivanka Trump's rented Miami Beach apartment is one block away.
One woman has died and at least nine people are injured, including a firefighter, following the collapse just before 1.30am, according to local media reports.
There are fears that many more people may be dead or remain trapped beneath the rubble and witnesses have reported hearing screaming from beneath the rubble as a search-and-rescue operation begins.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9720381/Eleven-story-Miami-Beach-apartment-building-collapses-sparking-huge-search.html
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The Trumps are involved? This could be bad for them.
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The Trumps are involved? This could be bad for them.
No more than anyone else who owns a building a block away.
(If they were directly involved with that building, that would have been the first thing in the headline.)
It's just more a mention to try to establish guilt by association because they have a building in the same area.
Associating someone with something negative or positive, even in the most obtuse way, is commonly used by crappy propagandists to reflect badly (or well) on someone unrelated to the events of the story.
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Horrifying.
I wonder if they've ruled out terrorism.
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Jared and Ivanka Trump's rented Miami Beach apartment is one block away.
Good Grief! How many politicians and celebrities have an apartment within a block or a mile of this place.
The Clintons rent a place less than a mile away! Cher has a condo within the same State!
They just threw "Trump" in the headline as clickbait. But it is good.
Even the Libs are eventually wising up to the propaganda media tricks.
And this is so obvious and absurd, it is likely to piss them off.
I clicked on this crap because they said Trump was involved! What is this crap?
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WTF Are we some 3rd world shithole now where buildings and walkways and bridges collapse?
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Way too early to tell the actual cause of the building collapse in Miami Beach, but first responders on scene feel it was a sinkhole because of the lack of enough surface debris. The building fell into something.
The side of the building away from the beach is still intact.
8:14 AM · Jun 24, 2021
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Just spoke to one of the first responders at the building collapse on Miami Beach/Surfside and initial working theory is a sinkhole.
Having lived down here 17 years I’ve heard more than a few architects and engineers express concern about this exact thing.
8:00 AM · Jun 24, 2021
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OMG the pictures are terrible..
https://twitter.com/tonypascarella/status/1407990615904866305
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/semantic_core_img/1408030433665638405/0YgAwuYj?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1407962365707030528/4kZP7XMf?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4pSmwcWQAAfslt?format=jpg&name=small)
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Blaming DeSantis
Phil P
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Desantis building inspection
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Way too early to tell the actual cause of the building collapse in Miami Beach, but first responders on scene feel it was a sinkhole because of the lack of enough surface debris. The building fell into something.
The side of the building away from the beach is still intact.
8:14 AM · Jun 24, 2021
Seems unlikely. Do sinkholes occur on barrier islands?
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Blaming DeSantis
Phil P
@Uperpeninsula
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Desantis building inspection
Waiting for Val Demings to blame DeSantis for this too.
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Seems unlikely. Do sinkholes occur on barrier islands?
I don't know, but suspect the ground is not particularly stable there. :shrug:
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Seems unlikely. Do sinkholes occur on barrier islands?
Over the last several years, residents in Miami had seen sinkholes of different sizes. Here are some of the sinkhole incidents in the area:
August 2013 – A sinkhole formed after a main water line between 84 and 85 streets in Miami Beach broke. It also caused a water outage for 500 customers.
October 2015 – A sinkhole formed on a busy roadway at Southwest 27th Avenue, located between the Sixth and Seventh Streets. It looked small at first but upon inspection, it extended through three lanes.
October 2015 – A sinkhole opened due to a broken service line from the Four Points by Sheraton Miami Beach Hotel located at 4343 Collins Avenue. Northbound traffic on Collins Avenue was diverted at 41st Street, while the 44th Street was closed.
August 2016 – Because of a broken water line, two massive holes opened in the southbound lanes of Florida’s Turnpike, near Hard Rock Stadium, prompting the officials to close lanes and two exits.
October 2016 – A sinkhole opened on 41st Street and Royal Palm Avenue, near the Julia Tuttle Causeway. The cause might be the severe weather at Miami-Dade.
November 2017 – A sinkhole opened at the intersection of Flagler and 107th Avenue.
https://sinkholemaps.com/resources/miami-sinkholes-what-you-should-know-before-moving-to-miami-fl/
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1408055796534059010
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WTF Are we some 3rd world shithole now where buildings and walkways and bridges collapse?
Yeah. I thought this only happened in Asia.
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WTF Are we some 3rd world shithole now where buildings and walkways and bridges collapse?
The Pedestrian bridge on Kenilworth Ave in Washington, D.C. fell yesterday as a result of a truck carrying scrap metal whose driver failed to lower the boom on the crane. It was recently inspected and only minor cosmetic repairs were necessary.
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1408055796534059010
OMG looks like the Twin Towers collapsing..
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OMG looks like the Twin Towers collapsing..
One of the tweeters said it looked like a controlled implosion. Strange.
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One of the tweeters said it looked like a controlled implosion. Strange.
More like the Alfred P. Murrah Bldg to my mind.....
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More like the Alfred P. Murrah Bldg to my mind.....
That was my first thought as well..
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One of the tweeters said it looked like a controlled implosion. Strange.
I can see that. It seems to collapse almost straight down.
Here's the implosion of the Belknap Building in Louisville several years ago for comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yrpQrYdvTY
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That was my first thought as well..
The Alfred P. Murrah building had far less damage. This was complete collapse of entire wings of the building.
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https://twitter.com/RWillis19100672/status/1408043325676998661
Notice how the side with the building still standing, the parking level has collapse downward. Look at the supporting columns where the level used to be.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4pf8EqWQAssh0o?format=jpg&name=large)
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Holy schmoley, those guys are just standing there under the edge of the building by those support columns like they're not afraid additional sections might collapse.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4pf8EqWQAssh0o?format=jpg&name=large)
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Holy schmoley, those guys are just standing there under the edge of the building by those support columns like they're not afraid additional sections might collapse.
Looks like fire fighter clothing. Heroes run in where mortals fear to stand. Looking for survivors most likely.
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120 units were involved in the collapse? They're gonna be digging out a lot of bodies unfortunately.
A disturbing, horrible event. How the hell did this happen? Was it concrete cancer?
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WTF Are we some 3rd world shithole now where buildings and walkways and bridges collapse?
Not a good look is it?
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Holy schmoley, those guys are just standing there under the edge of the building by those support columns like they're not afraid additional sections might collapse.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4pf8EqWQAssh0o?format=jpg&name=large)
If it had underground parking and someone took out a few support columns in that underground parking area it could easily result in a much larger collapse.
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If it had underground parking and someone took out a few support columns in that underground parking area it could easily result in a much larger collapse.
Do they install underground parking (or underground anything) beach front near Miami?
(https://www.miamicondoinvestments.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/champlain-towers-south-condos-3.jpg)
https://www.miamicondoinvestments.com/champlain-towers-south-condos
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Way too early to tell the actual cause of the building collapse in Miami Beach, but first responders on scene feel it was a sinkhole because of the lack of enough surface debris. The building fell into something.
The side of the building away from the beach is still intact.
8:14 AM · Jun 24, 2021
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Just spoke to one of the first responders at the building collapse on Miami Beach/Surfside and initial working theory is a sinkhole.
Having lived down here 17 years I’ve heard more than a few architects and engineers express concern about this exact thing.
8:00 AM · Jun 24, 2021
Being Florida, sinkhole was the first thing I thought.
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Being Florida, sinkhole was the first thing I thought.
OH, that makes sense. Terrible, but some small consolation because it means our construction quality may not have sunk to China levels.
If I were anywhere nearby, I would de-ass the area post-haste. If the sink hole gets larger, more buildings could be impacted.
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Being Florida, sinkhole was the first thing I thought.
That or concrete cancer.... if you've ever seen the conditions of some of these coast buildings you'll know what i mean.
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OH, that makes sense. Terrible, but some small consolation because it means our construction quality may not have sunk to China levels.
If I were anywhere nearby, I would de-ass the area post-haste. If the sink hole gets larger, more buildings could be impacted.
FLORIDA’S SINKHOLES
https://www.foundationprosfl.com/floridas-sinkholes/
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Zone 1 (Yellow): This region consists of exposed or thinly-covered carbonate rocks. Broad and shallow sinkholes are common in this area. Cities in the zone 1 region include Miami, Coral Springs, Hialeah, and Hollywood.
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What you need to know
- Surfside Town Manager Andrew Hyatt said on Thursday that search and rescue efforts could take “at least a week”
- Miami-Dade officials are unsure of how many people remain missing, according to the Orlando Sentinel
- At least 10 people are being treated for injuries, according to Mayor Burkett
- Emergency response officials announced that a family reunification center has been opened in Surfside
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https://twitter.com/bgay4real/status/1408045278955978765
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https://twitter.com/jwhittenbergK5/status/1408030021139140620
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4p3LBpVoAMkN28?format=jpg&name=240x240)
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TOS is saying that McAfee's files were in that building... hate to laugh at this subject but my God...
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TOS is saying that McAfee's files were in that building... hate to laugh at this subject but my God...
And now they're corrupted?
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Video footage and more pictures --- apparently part of the building was being refurbished to bring it up to code.
https://www.winknews.com/2021/06/24/massive-response-to-partial-building-collapse-in-south-florida/
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Breaking911 reporting at least 99 missing.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1408141576321310721
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Meanwhile, the Press will find a way to blame it on DeSantis.
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https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1408148346699608066
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Video footage and more pictures --- apparently part of the building was being refurbished to bring it up to code.
https://www.winknews.com/2021/06/24/massive-response-to-partial-building-collapse-in-south-florida/
From the article:
...Work was being done on the building’s roof, but Burkett said he did not see how that could have been the cause.
Surfside City Commissioner Eliana Salzhauer told Miami television station WPLG that the building’s county-mandated 40-year recertification process was ongoing. Salzhauer said the process was believed to be proceeding without difficulty. A building inspector was on-site Wednesday....
Recertification process may only be inspection and paperwork. It rarely means taking a 40 year old building already in use and replacing wiring and the like to meet modern construction codes.
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DeSantis/Trump LIHOP?
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Looking at the pic thackney posted above in #32, that building just don't look right.
It fell like the rug was pulled out from under it, and it came down all at once.
Sinkhole... or perhaps substandard concrete courtesy of Cosa Nostra Construction Co. ...
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Collapsed Miami condo had been sinking into Earth as early as the 1990s, researchers say
Gina Barton, Kyle Bagenstose, Pat Beall, Aleszu Bajak and Elizabeth Weise 26 mins ago
A Florida high-rise that collapsed early Thursday was determined to be unstable a year ago, according to a researcher at Florida International University.
The building, which was constructed in 1981, has been sinking at an alarming rate since the 1990s, according to a study in 2020 by Shimon Wdowinski, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment.
When Wdowinski saw the news that the Champlain Towers South condominium in Surfside collapsed, he instantly remembered it from the study, he said.
“I looked at it this morning and said, ‘Oh my god.’ We did detect that,” he said.
Wdowinski said his research is not meant to suggest certainty about what caused the collapse. The building was sinking at a rate of about 2 millimeters a year in the 1990s and could have slowed or accelerated in the time since, he said.
In his experience, even the level of sinking observed in the 1990s typically results in impacts to buildings and their structures, Wdowinski said. He said that very well could have been the case for the Champlain building in the 1990s, based on his findings.
“It was a byproduct of analyzing the data. We saw this building had some kind of unusual movement,” Wdowinski said.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/collapsed-miami-condo-had-been-sinking-into-earth-as-early-as-the-1990s-researchers-say/ar-AALoUP0?ocid=msedgntp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/collapsed-miami-condo-had-been-sinking-into-earth-as-early-as-the-1990s-researchers-say/ar-AALoUP0?ocid=msedgntp)
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Nearby construction may have been a factor?
https://twitter.com/AriTeman/status/1408150127806664705
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Seems unlikely. Do sinkholes occur on barrier islands?
If they are underlain by carbonate layers (limestone, especially porous limestone), it is a definite possibility.
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If they are underlain by carbonate layers (limestone, especially porous limestone), it is a definite possibility.
Apparently it has been sinking at about 2 mm per year, at least parts of it.
And... The land it is built on is "reclaimed land"...
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Sinkholes in FL are not uncommon in certain areas especially in Central and northern portions of FL. The bldg and land have had sinking issues for awhile. Why wouldn't they fix it? They were bringing the bldg up to code perhaps a little too late. Very sad
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Sinkholes in FL are not uncommon in certain areas especially in Central and northern portions of FL. The bldg and land have had sinking issues for awhile. Why wouldn't they fix it? They were bringing the bldg up to code perhaps a little too late. Very sad
I'm not a civil engineer (not even an un-civil one), but I don't know what could be done to stabilize the foundations under a 12 story building. Something smaller like a single family home, perhaps, but 12 stories is a lot of weight.
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The building collapsed as if it were imploded.
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The building collapsed as if it were imploded.
Implosion only removes critical structural support on command.
Failure of the substrate beneath the building could have a similar effect, especially if a sinkhole opened under the foundation.
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Desperate search for Surfside building collapse survivors continues as death toll rises
As the investigation into the residential building that collapsed in Surfside, Florida, continues, Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava told ABC News Friday that three more bodies have been pulled from the rubble, bringing the death toll to four.
The three people were found Thursday night and have not yet been identified, the mayor said.
As of Friday morning, 99 people remain unaccounted for, but Cava said there is still hope.
"I do want to emphasize that 102 people have been accounted for and that number is way up from the original count and so we're very, very grateful for the hard work of our firefighters on the scene working throughout the night day and night from above and from below."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-approves-florida-emergency-declaration-deadly-building-collapse/story?id=78482598
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Collapsed Miami condo had been sinking into Earth as early as the 1990s, researchers say
A Florida high-rise that collapsed early Thursday was determined to be unstable a year ago, according to a researcher at Florida International University.
The building, which was constructed in 1981, has been sinking at an alarming rate since the 1990s, according to a study in 2020 by Shimon Wdowinski, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment.
When Wdowinski saw the news that the Champlain Towers South condominium in Surfside collapsed, he instantly remembered it from the study, he said.
“I looked at it this morning and said, ‘Oh my god.’ We did detect that,” he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/collapsed-miami-condo-had-been-sinking-into-earth-at-alarming-rate-since-1990s-researchers-say/ar-AALoUP0
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Death toll in Florida building collapse rises to 4
CNN By Aya Elamroussi and Rosa Flores 6/25/2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/us/building-collapse-miami-friday/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/us/building-collapse-miami-friday/index.html)
The death toll from Thursday's collapse of a 12-story residential building in South Florida has risen to four, according to Rachel Johnson, spokesperson for Miami-Dade County mayor's office.
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Heartbreaking. And yet, countless heroes are willing to put themselves in harms way to rescue that one person who may still be alive. These are the types of people impugned by large swaths of our society.
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Mom With Broken Pelvis Miraculously Pulls Herself And Daughter Out Of Rubble In Condo Collapse: Report
Brianna Lyman
Reporter
June 25, 2021 10:01 AM ET
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A mother with a broken pelvis managed to free herself and her teen daughter from the rubble of the Miami condo collapse, according to a local report.
Angela Gonzalez broke her pelvis after she and her 16-year-old daughter Devon fell from their ninth-floor condo down to the fifth floor, CBS Miami reported. Gonzalez somehow managed to free herself from the debris before pulling Devon out of the rubble as well. The pair were then treated at Jackson Memorial Hospital, according to the report.
Gonzalez’s husband, Edgar, is among the 159 people still unaccounted for, however.
“Hope for the best. Everybody just gives prayers,” family friend Lisa Melencial told CBS Miami. “Everybody else’s families or any colleagues or friends that were in the incidents, I wish you prayers, thoughts … And I hope everybody gets well.”
A 10-year-old boy was also rescued at the scene Thursday after a passerby saw his hand sticking through the rubble.
more
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/25/mother-broken-pelvis-daughter-rubble-surfside-condo-collapse-angela-gonzalez/
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I read today that there is "a clone" of this building that was built several blocks away.
I wonder how the folks in that one feel right now...?
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Bookmark for further details on cause.
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I read today that there is "a clone" of this building that was built several blocks away.
I wonder how the folks in that one feel right now...?
Hell, @Fishrrman ... imagine owning a Penthouse in the complex adjacent. You couldn't give it away.
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https://nypost.com/2021/06/26/collapsed-florida-building-was-flagged-for-major-structural-damage/
Collapsed Florida building flagged for ‘major structural damage’ in 2018
By Jack Hobbs
June 26, 2021
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The partially collapsed Florida condo building, which has left at least four dead and 159 people missing, was flagged as having “major structural damage” in 2018, according to reports.
A lack of proper drainage on the pool deck of Champlain Towers South condo, which sits above the building’s parking garage, was the source of the “main issue,” wrote engineer Frank Morabito, according to the Miami Herald.
Years of standing water had seriously damaged the concrete structural slabs below the deck, a problem Morabito warned would be “extremely expensive” to fix.
“Failure to replace waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially,” Morabito said in his “Structural Field Survey Report,” which was produced for the Condominium Association.
More at URL above...
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Apparently it did have an underground parking garage. I'm guessing the pool was on the roof and the damaged caused by that was near the top of the building. From the video it looked like the failure started at the bottom and not the top.
Edit - apparently the pool was around/over part of the parking garage.
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I saw on tonight's news there's a fire burning somewhere in the rubble, cause unknown. So they're trying to put that out while they continue searching for survivors and victims. **nononono*
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Death toll from Florida condo collapse rises to 5
The death toll from the Surfside, Florida, building collapse has risen to five after rescue workers pulled another body from the rubble, Miami-Dade Mayor Daniella Levine Cava (D) said Saturday.
The latest: Miami-Dade Fire Rescue Chief Alan Cominsky said Saturday afternoon that shifting winds spread smoke, which made it hard for first responders to breathe and to see, per the Miami Herald.
The article also states
Residents had also been complaining of water that was coming through their windows and balcony doors. Morabito noted that balcony concrete was deteriorating due to water infiltration, and because of this he said balcony slab edges needed to be "further investigated and repaired."
https://news.yahoo.com/engineer-warned-major-structural-damage-141100623.html
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List of names of people missing
https://news.yahoo.com/search-continues-people-missing-surfside-191558226.html
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Miami building collapse: Engineer warned of ‘major structural damage’ three years ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/miami-building-collapse-surfside-latest-b1873268.html
Report detailed ‘abundant cracking’ at base of the building and urged action
An engineer’s report found evidence of “major structural damage” at a residential condominium complex near Miami three years before its fatal collapse earlier this week.
Rescue teams are working around the clock to search for survivors at the site of the Champlain Towers South condominium complex in Surfside, Florida. At least 159 people are missing...
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List of names of people missing
https://news.yahoo.com/search-continues-people-missing-surfside-191558226.html
The building seemed to cater to a particular ethnicity. Not sure what kinds of names those are but they are unusual to me.
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The building seemed to cater to a particular ethnicity. Not sure what kinds of names those are but they are unusual to me.
I read that over 20 (of the missing) were Jewish.
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"She told him she saw a sinkhole where the pool out her window used to be"
https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/06/26/she-told-him-she-saw-a-sinkhole-where-the-pool-out-her-window-used-to-be-n399100/amp (https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/06/26/she-told-him-she-saw-a-sinkhole-where-the-pool-out-her-window-used-to-be-n399100/amp)
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I read that over 20 (of the missing) were Jewish.
Seems like more than that according to this article
The area is more than a third Jewish, with a large Orthodox population.
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The area is more than a third Jewish. In total, North Beach has more than 14,000 residents and more than 5,000 Jews, according to Ira Sheskin, who authored a 2014 Jewish population study on the greater Miami area.
Jews began arriving in significant numbers in the 1950s after widespread antisemitic discrimination from local establishments started to fade. Now an area where a hotel once advertised itself with the slogan “Always a view, never a Jew” is home to vibrant, observant Jewish life.
Miami Beach is freckled with synagogues and kosher restaurants. The Jews of North Beach, in particular, are more observant than American Jews as a whole, according to Sheskin. They’re 34% Orthodox, 24% Conservative, 18% Reform and 24% “just Jewish.” By contrast, American Jews more generally are about 10% Orthodox.
https://www.jta.org/2021/06/25/united-states/for-jewish-burial-societies-surfside-building-collapse-presents-a-grim-and-complex-task
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Inspection reports for collapsed Miami-area condo detail 'major structural damage' over garage
USA TODAY by Elizabeth Weise and Kyle Bagenstose 6/26/2021
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/26/miami-condo-collapse-inspection-reports-concrete-deterioration-surfside/5355975001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/26/miami-condo-collapse-inspection-reports-concrete-deterioration-surfside/5355975001/)
Engineers noted design flaws and failing waterproofing that would lead to "exponential damage" about 990 days before much of the Champlain Towers South condominium complex collapsed, documents released late Friday night show. The town of Surfside, Florida, released the documents including an "unverified" 40-year inspection report that had been received 16 hours after the building's catastrophic failure.
A letter to the condominium association's treasurer on Oct. 8, 2018, included pages of recommended repairs. One warned of failed waterproofing causing "major structural damage" on a concrete slab over a garage and said "Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete damage to expand exponentially."
The author warned that the design was faulty, replacement would be complicated, and called it a "systemic issue." Areas underneath planters and pools were specifically mentioned in the report. The pool remained largely intact after the collapse.
The inspection report from Oct. 8, 2018, found "abundant" cracking and spalling of the columns, beams and walls in the garage under the tower that fell to the ground early Thursday, killing at least four people and leaving 159 others unaccounted for. Spalling refers to the deterioration of concrete, sometime causing flaking and the exposure of reinforcing steel bars known as rebar.
"Abundant cracking and spalling of varying degrees were observed in the concrete columns, beams and walls" of the ground floor parking garage, according to a structural field survey report by Morabito Consultants.
It appears plans to correct these problems were not solidified until April of this year, despite the original report having been issued in October 2018.
“Though some of this damage is minor, most of the concrete deterioration needs to be repaired in a timely fashion,” the report noted.
What caused the cracking isn't known, said John Wallace, a professor of structural engineering at the University of California, Los Angeles.
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"Engineers noted design flaws and failing waterproofing that would lead to "exponential damage" about 990 days before much of the Champlain Towers South condominium complex collapsed, documents released late Friday night show. The town of Surfside, Florida, released the documents including an "unverified" 40-year inspection report that had been received 16 hours after the building's catastrophic failure."
Has anyone looked over "Champlain Towers North" (looks to be a clone of the building that collapsed) and "Champlain Towers East" (a "sister building", probably built at the same time with similar construction techniques and materials) just a short distance north of the collapse?
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Has anyone looked over "Champlain Towers North" (looks to be a clone of the building that collapsed) and "Champlain Towers East" (a "sister building", probably built at the same time with similar construction techniques and materials) just a short distance north of the collapse?
I can’t recall which news outlet it was, but the report said the sister buildings were being inspected and are ~12 years younger than the collapsed building.
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Florida family gets 16 calls from grandparents who remain unaccounted for in condo collapse
'We are trying to rationalize what is happening here, we are trying to get answers,' grandson of missing Surfside couple says
more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/surfside-16-calls-missing-grandparents-condo-collapse-champlain-towers
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Building Inspector Was On Roof Of Florida Condo Just Hours Before It Collapsed
Shakhzod Yuldoshboev
Contributor
June 26, 2021 12:11 PM ET
Surfside’s building official was on the roof of the collapsed condominium mere 14 hours before the accident, the official said at the town’s Friday emergency meeting.
Jim McGuinness was inspecting the replacement of roof anchors, which are used to secure window cleaners when attached to their equipment. McGuiness claimed that he had seen “no inordinate amount of equipment or materials” that could have resulted in the collapse, The Palm Beach Post reported.
https://twitter.com/pbpost/status/1408595483275243522
more
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/26/building-inspector-14-hours-before-surfside-condo-collapse-miami/
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Has anyone looked over "Champlain Towers North" ...
Mayor eyes relocation plan for condo near collapsed building
https://apnews.com/article/fl-state-wire-business-038431368e29b1d3c2729e11e7e536ab
The mayor of Surfside, Florida, said Saturday he is working on a plan to temporarily relocate residents of a condominium tower built by the same developer of the nearby building that collapsed earlier in the week.
But Mayor Charles Burkett said he was not yet prepared to order everyone in the building to evacuate.
Burkett had sought an emergency inspection of Champlain Towers North, which was constructed the same year and by the same developer as the crumbled 12-story Champlain Towers South. It sits about 100 yards (about 91 meters) away, along Collins Avenue, which runs parallel to the Atlantic Ocean north of downtown Miami.
Until then, Burkett had said, he couldn’t tell residents whether they’re safe in their homes.
“I know that the identical building collapsed for an inexplicable reason,” Burkett said. “Buildings in the United States do not just fall down... Something very, very wrong was going on at that building and we need to find out.”
Asked what he would do if he lived in the collapsed building’s twin, Burkett said: “I’d be gone.”
The mayor stopped short of saying he would order residents to evacuate....
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Developer Of Collapsed Miami Condo Once Allegedly Paid Off Officials
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/developer-collapsed-miami-condo-once-paid-officials
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Specialist Rescue Team of Israeli Reservists Work Around the Clock at Collapsed Florida Condo
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2021/06/28/rescue-team-of-israeli-reservists-work-around-the-clock-at-collapsed-florida-condo/
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UConn pitcher Justin Willis: How I escaped from terrifying Florida condo collapse
By Jared Greenspan
June 28, 2021 | 2:21pm A college baseball standout from New Jersey was among the survivors of last week’s disastrous building collapse in South Florida.
UConn pitcher Justin Willis was staying at the Champlain Towers condominium complex in Surfside, Florida, with his family on a vacation. Willis described being up late playing video games with his sister, Athena Aguero, when they felt their apartment shake. Shortly after 1 a.m. on Thursday, a wing of the high-rise building collapsed, leaving at least 10 dead and more than 150 missing. ...
Willis and his family said their harrowing escape from the building took 15 minutes and they were able to help several other residents on the way downstairs. When Willis’ family reached the sixth floor, they heard a group of people frantically banging on a jammed fire door. Willis’ mom, Janette Aguero, managed to pry the door loose.
Minutes later, on the third floor, the family encountered an elderly woman praying in Spanish by herself. They helped lead the woman to safety, assisting her through the flooded garage and over a parade of broken tiles. The family at last escaped the building at 1:38 a.m., according to a photo Willis took on his phone. ...
New York Post (https://nypost.com/2021/06/28/uconns-justin-willis-how-i-escaped-from-florida-condo-collapse/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)
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It ‘Started From The Bottom’: New Details Emerge As Miami Building Collapse Death Toll Climbs, Attention Turns To Developer
By Emily Zanotti
Jun 28, 2021 DailyWire.com
A condominium building that collapsed near Miami, Florida, last week may have had longstanding structural issues leading to a disaster that “started from the bottom” of the building according to officials who still remain hopeful despite the incident’s climbing death count.
Attention has also turned toward the building’s developer amid reports that the developer was once accused of “paying off officials,” according to Fox News. ...
As officials clear the rubble and speak to both survivors and those connected to the missing, they are beginning to piece precisely how a quarter of the Champlain Towers “pancaked” in on itself with nearly no warning.
“It does appear to start either at or very near the bottom of the structure,” a consulting engineer who is not affiliated with the search and rescue operation told the New York Times. “It’s not like there’s a failure high and it pancaked down.”
Engineers, though, told the New York Times, that such a collapse could not have occurred without a triggering failure. ...
Daily Wire (https://www.dailywire.com/news/it-started-from-the-bottom-new-details-emerge-as-miami-building-collapse-death-toll-climbs-attention-turns-to-developer?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR2XLrgsapH0ReLcOKhEsSFkuyGsE3aC89mK1iU2NuRke9weEi9cS37eAyc)
Link to cited NYT story (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/27/us/miami-building-investigation-clues.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur).
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Possible Failure Point Emerges in Miami-Area Building Collapse
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/27/us/miami-building-investigation-clues.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
The investigation into what may be the deadliest accidental building collapse in American history has just begun, but experts who have examined video footage of the disaster outside Miami are focusing on a spot in the lowest part of the condominium complex — possibly in or below the underground parking garage — where an initial failure could have set off a structural avalanche.
Called “progressive collapse,” the gradual spread of failures could have occurred for a variety of reasons, including design flaws or the less robust construction allowed under the building codes of four decades ago, when the complex was built. But that progression could not have occurred without some critical first failure, and close inspections of a grainy surveillance video that emerged in the initial hours after the disaster have given the first hints of where that might have been.
“It does appear to start either at or very near the bottom of the structure,” said Donald O. Dusenberry, a consulting engineer who has investigated many structural collapses. “It’s not like there’s a failure high and it pancaked down.”...
...But three years before the deadly collapse, a consultant found alarming evidence of “major structural damage” to the concrete slab below the pool deck and “abundant” cracking and crumbling of the columns, beams and walls of the parking garage under the building.
While no definitive conclusions could be drawn from the surveillance video, which was shot from a distance and reveals only one perspective of the disaster, some of the engineers reviewing it last week said it seemed to suggest that the failure began at a specific point near the bottom of the structure — perhaps as far down as the parking garage beneath the building, or on the first few floors....
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It appears the building collapsed into a void.
Solution voids at depth could be breached by percolation of groundwater, similar to any ordinary Karst collapse and sinkhole development.
If such voids exist under other buildings in the area, they are at risk.
Shallow seismic or GPR surveys may indicate the presence of any such voids, in time to fill them with grout to support the buildings before any failure occurs.
Just my $0.02, looking to save lives in the future.
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https://twitter.com/MiamiDadeFire/status/1408177688515428353
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https://twitter.com/MiamiDadeFire/status/1408177688515428353
It takes a lot of balls to willingly put yourself in such a dangerous situation to help people you have never met. Our Firemen, Police and other First Responders deserve so much more respect and yet all the left wants to denigrate them, and in the case of Police................kill them.
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It takes a lot of balls to willingly put yourself in such a dangerous situation to help people you have never met. Our Firemen, Police and other First Responders deserve so much more respect and yet all the left wants to denigrate them, and in the case of Police................kill them.
Yep. I was looking at the number of guys standing under those spindly looking shoring pillars and thinking "Those guys clank when they walk".
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Leaky pool caused ‘major structural damage’ at collapsed Florida building
By Jack Hobbs
June 26, 2021 | 7:45am
The partially collapsed Florida condo building, which has left at least four dead and 159 people missing, was flagged as having “major structural damage” in 2018 caused by a leaky pool, according to reports.
A lack of proper drainage on the pool deck of Champlain Towers South condo, which sits above the building’s parking garage, was the source of the “main issue,” wrote engineer Frank Morabito, according to the Miami Herald.
Years of standing water had seriously damaged the concrete structural slabs below the deck, a problem Morabito warned would be “extremely expensive” to fix. ... More at NY Post (https://nypost.com/2021/06/26/collapsed-florida-building-was-flagged-for-major-structural-damage/)
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More on the swimming pool:
Two days before condo collapse, a pool contractor photographed this damage in garage
By Sarah Blaskey andAaron Leibowitz
June 28, 2021 04:28 PM, Updated 1 hour 42 minutes ago
Miami Herald (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252421658.html#storylink=cpy)
There was nothing unusual about the lobby and pool area at Champlain Towers South condo, which looked clean and well maintained to a commercial pool contractor who visited the building last Tuesday, just 36 hours before half of the building unexpectedly collapsed. Then, he saw the basement-level garage.
“There was standing water all over the parking garage,” the contractor, who asked not to be named, told the Miami Herald. He noted cracking concrete and severely corroded rebar under the pool.
He also took photos, which he shared with the Herald. ...
(https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/28th3w/picture252421758/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/Composite2.jpg)
Read entire article at Miami Herald (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252421658.html)
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Death toll hits 11 in Champlain condo collapse on fifth day of search for 150 missing
The fifth day of an unprecedented international rescue effort brought only grim news: two more bodies were pulled from the twisted metal-and-concrete ruins of Champlain Towers South, raising the death toll on Monday to 11 and dimming prospects of finding survivors.
The announcement Monday night of the latest body to be discovered means that 150 people remain unaccounted for in what could become one of the nation’s deadliest mass-casualty events.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252414358.html
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I had a nightmare about this last night.
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Israel Defense Force Deployed to Help with Florida Condo Collapse Choose Tents over Free Hotel Rooms
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/28/israel-defense-force-deployed-to-help-with-florida-condo-collapse-choose-tents-over-free-hotel-rooms/
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Death toll hits 11 in Champlain condo collapse on fifth day of search for 150 missing
The fifth day of an unprecedented international rescue effort brought only grim news: two more bodies were pulled from the twisted metal-and-concrete ruins of Champlain Towers South, raising the death toll on Monday to 11 and dimming prospects of finding survivors.
The announcement Monday night of the latest body to be discovered means that 150 people remain unaccounted for in what could become one of the nation’s deadliest mass-casualty events.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252414358.html
So sad especially since this could have and should have been avoided. Failure to make the necessary repairs and bring the building up to code appears to be them not wanting to spend the money. It's been a couple of years since the integrity of the condo was assessed --- I see many lawsuits coming.
I haven't been able to confirm if the sister condo has been evacuated???
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Israel Defense Force Deployed to Help with Florida Condo Collapse Choose Tents over Free Hotel Rooms
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/28/israel-defense-force-deployed-to-help-with-florida-condo-collapse-choose-tents-over-free-hotel-rooms/
Simply amazing! 'Incredible' to see IDF delegation arrive, those from the Jewish community begged for Israelis to come,' Bal Harbour's Mayor Groisman says.
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Israel Defense Force Deployed to Help with Florida Condo Collapse Choose Tents over Free Hotel Rooms
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/28/israel-defense-force-deployed-to-help-with-florida-condo-collapse-choose-tents-over-free-hotel-rooms/
Hamas must have some experience with digging out from collapsed buildings. I'm sure they will show up any minute now.
The sitting President of the United States strongarms Israel to cease defending itself from missile attacks, then Israel sends its own military to assist with a civil disaster here in the United States, and they choose to live in tents rather than accept hotel accommodation. Personally I am ashamed over this - not that we can use their help, but that the current administration is clearly not a friend to Israel, but Israel continues to be a friend to us.
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"Engineers noted design flaws and failing waterproofing that would lead to "exponential damage" about 990 days before much of the Champlain Towers South condominium complex collapsed, documents released late Friday night show. The town of Surfside, Florida, released the documents including an "unverified" 40-year inspection report that had been received 16 hours after the building's catastrophic failure."
Has anyone looked over "Champlain Towers North" (looks to be a clone of the building that collapsed) and "Champlain Towers East" (a "sister building", probably built at the same time with similar construction techniques and materials) just a short distance north of the collapse?
Found this on the sister towers @Fishrrman
In collapsed building's twin, most residents are staying put
AP, Jun 29, 2021
SURFSIDE, Fla. (AP) — About a block from the Miami-area beachfront condominium tower that collapsed sits its sister building, erected a year later by the same company, using the same materials and a similar design. It has faced the same tides and salty air.
This has made some residents of Champlain Towers North worried enough to leave, though most have remained, saying they are confident their almost 40-year-old, 12-story building is better maintained. They say their building doesn't have the same problems with cracking in support beams and in the pool area that 2018 engineering reports show the south tower had.
More: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-collapsed-buildings-twin-most-residents-are-staying-put/ar-AALzlGR?li=BBnb7Kz
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More on the swimming pool:Read entire article at Miami Herald (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252421658.html)
The contractor visited the condo building last week to put together a bid for a cosmetic restoration of the pool as well as to price out new pool equipment — a small piece of the multimillion-dollar restoration project that just was getting underway at the 40-year-old building.
While he had worked in the industry for decades and had “gone in some scary places,” he said he was struck by the lack of maintenance in the lower level. The amount of water at Champlain Towers seemed so unusual that the contractor mentioned it to a building staff member, Jose, who was showing him around.
“He thought it was waterproofing issues,” the contractor said of the staff member. “I thought to myself, that’s not normal.” He said Jose told him they pumped the pool equipment room so frequently that the building had to replace pump motors every two years, but he never mentioned anything about structural damage or cracks in the concrete above.
The deepest puddle of standing water, according to the contractor, was located around parking spot 78 — an area that building plans show is located directly under the pool deck where in a 2018 inspection report, engineer Frank Morabito had flagged a “major error” in the original design that was allowing water intrusion and causing serious damage to the structural concrete slabs below.
He did not photograph that standing water because he was there to examine the pool and what was underneath it.
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“In these buildings that are asymmetrical like this one, there is a possibility that if you have one part of the building that collapses, the building does some turning and twisting,” Ehsani said. “In this case, it is possible that a failure any place in this building could cause distortion to the frame of the building and could cause a collapse in any of the areas, not just adjacent [to the failure].”
(https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/b2f4yt/picture252422063/alternates/FREE_1140/Basement5.png)
(https://i.insider.com/60d66c3982c8960018af229a?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
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So sad especially since this could have and should have been avoided. Failure to make the necessary repairs and bring the building up to code appears to be them not wanting to spend the money. It's been a couple of years since the integrity of the condo was assessed --- I see many lawsuits coming.
I haven't been able to confirm if the sister condo has been evacuated???
They had approved making the changes. It takes some time to implement the plan and secure the funding. That was already underway.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/26/us/miami-building-collapse-investigation.html
...The engineer’s report helped shape plans for a multimillion-dollar repair project that was set to get underway soon — more than two and a half years after the building managers were warned — but the building suffered a catastrophic collapse in the middle of the night on Thursday, crushing sleeping residents in a massive heap of debris....
...“Though some of this damage is minor, most of the concrete deterioration needs to be repaired in a timely fashion,” the consultant, Frank Morabito, wrote about damage near the base of the structure as part of his October 2018 report on the 40-year-old building in Surfside, Fla. He gave no indication that the structure was at risk of collapse, though he noted that the needed repairs would be aimed at “maintaining the structural integrity” of the building and its 136 units....
...The condominium complex had been preparing for the recertification that state law requires of similar buildings in the area that have reached 40 years of age, and was on notice that it needed to complete the repairs in order to pass inspection.
But solving the problem of water leaking down from the pool area into the garage was going to involve major work and cost millions of dollars. Brad Sohn, a lawyer representing at least one resident who has filed a lawsuit against the Champlain Towers South Condominium Association, said on Saturday that residents were facing assessments ranging from $80,000 to as high as $200,000....
...The association had taken out a $12 million line of credit to pay for the repairs and was going through a careful, step-by-step process to get them done, Ms. Berger said....
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You can bet building managers across the country are pulling out their inspection reports and re-reading them. If they have them, that is.
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/29/us/miami-building-collapse
...Less than three months before the collapse of the Champlain Towers South condo in Surfside, Fla., the president of the condominium association warned in a letter that the damage in the building had “gotten significantly worse” since it was highlighted in a 2018 inspection.
The letter was written to residents by Jean Wodnicki, president of the association’s board of directors, explaining why a list of extensive construction projects were worth a $15 million special assessment that residents were being asked to pay....
...She explained that these signs of growing damage were why the estimated costs of repair had jumped by some 60 percent since that 2018 inspection. “The concrete deterioration is accelerating. The roof situation got much worse,” she wrote adding: “New problems have been identified.”...
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"The letter was written to residents by Jean Wodnicki, president of the association’s board of directors, explaining why a list of extensive construction projects were worth a $15 million special assessment that residents were being asked to pay...."
Let's see here...
$15 million divided by 136 units.
That's $110,294 per unit.
How would you like to get hit with a repair bill like that?
I never could have stood apartment house/condo highrise living.
Glad I never had to.
But something else comes to mind.
All these high-rise buildings constructed of concrete/rebar.
What is the expected lifespan of such construction?
Especially in harsh (salt water) environments as this one?
Brings to mind Paul Simon's song:
Ooh, spare your heart
Everything put together
Sooner or later falls apart
There's nothing to it, nothing to it
You can cry
And you can lie
For all the good it'll do you
You can die
But when it's done
And the police come, and they lay you down for dead
Ooh, just remember what I said
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All these high-rise buildings constructed of concrete/rebar.
What is the expected lifespan of such construction?
It depends on the specifications, construction materials and how it is maintained.
I have been part of design and construction using concrete structures where the rebar was epoxy coated to prevent it from corroding. Of course that costs more. Also some use sealants on the concrete itself.
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They had approved making the changes. It takes some time to implement the plan and secure the funding. That was already underway.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/26/us/miami-building-collapse-investigation.html
...The engineer’s report helped shape plans for a multimillion-dollar repair project that was set to get underway soon — more than two and a half years after the building managers were warned — but the building suffered a catastrophic collapse in the middle of the night on Thursday, crushing sleeping residents in a massive heap of debris....
...“Though some of this damage is minor, most of the concrete deterioration needs to be repaired in a timely fashion,” the consultant, Frank Morabito, wrote about damage near the base of the structure as part of his October 2018 report on the 40-year-old building in Surfside, Fla. He gave no indication that the structure was at risk of collapse, though he noted that the needed repairs would be aimed at “maintaining the structural integrity” of the building and its 136 units....
...The condominium complex had been preparing for the recertification that state law requires of similar buildings in the area that have reached 40 years of age, and was on notice that it needed to complete the repairs in order to pass inspection.
But solving the problem of water leaking down from the pool area into the garage was going to involve major work and cost millions of dollars. Brad Sohn, a lawyer representing at least one resident who has filed a lawsuit against the Champlain Towers South Condominium Association, said on Saturday that residents were facing assessments ranging from $80,000 to as high as $200,000....
...The association had taken out a $12 million line of credit to pay for the repairs and was going through a careful, step-by-step process to get them done, Ms. Berger said....
Ok, the plans to make the repairs were underway, and a $12 million dollar line of credit was taken out and for that they deserve some credit, but I would think that the resident should have been warned; perhaps a letter from the condo association??
2 years is a long time especially with the rains that FL gets not to mention the hurricanes.
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They found another body last night. Death toll is 12, 149 still missing.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/miami-condo-collapse-search-and-rescue-teams-remain-hopeful-death-toll-reaches-12
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Miami-Dade state attorney prepares grand jury to investigate Surfside condo collapse
https://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2021/06/30/miami-dade-state-attorney-preps-grand-jury.html
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The developing negligence component could drive final settlements to incredible heights.
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Exxon and other Big Oil companies denied and mislead on the on going Climate Disaster which lead directly to this tragic infrastructure collapse.
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"The letter was written to residents by Jean Wodnicki, president of the association’s board of directors, explaining why a list of extensive construction projects were worth a $15 million special assessment that residents were being asked to pay...."
Let's see here...
$15 million divided by 136 units.
That's $110,294 per unit.
Wow. I think i'd sue, personally.
But the value of the condos might have made it worthwhile. And if this is the alternative then it's a no-brainer.
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I heard the other day that whenever there's the slightest movement in the rubble, even a millimeter or two, the recovery teams have to clear out and wait until they're sure it's safe to go back in and look for bodies. No wonder it's taking so long. :crying:
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Exxon and other Big Oil companies denied and mislead on the on going Climate Disaster which lead directly to this tragic infrastructure collapse.
Exxon had what, exactly, to do with a leaky pool deck?
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Ok, the plans to make the repairs were underway, and a $12 million dollar line of credit was taken out and for that they deserve some credit, but I would think that the resident should have been warned; perhaps a letter from the condo association??
2 years is a long time especially with the rains that FL gets not to mention the hurricanes.
Actually, in construction terms, two years is about off the drawing board and heading into environmental impact studies and permitting...
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Actually, in construction terms, two years is about off the drawing board and heading into environmental impact studies and permitting...
Unless you are a pipeline, then you're still looking at maps and feeding lawyers.
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One week after Miami building collapse, search and rescue halted due to safety concerns
Multiple police officers and rescue personnel said that the vacant, still-standing part of the building was shifting and might also flatten.
A week after the partial collapse of a Miami Beach-area condo building, search and rescue crews paused their work early Thursday over fears that the other half of the building might come down.
Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava said operations were halted over "concerns about the standing structure." She said the families of those missing were informed, and the "search and rescue operation will continue as soon as it is safe to do so."
Fire Chief Alan R. Cominsky said "slight movement in the concrete floor slabs near north and south corner of the building that could cause additional failure of the building moving in the debris pile" forced the temporary stop at 2:11 a.m.
South Florida is also expecting a possible tropical storm, which could interfere with search efforts. Crews have grappled with bad weather since work began on the site shortly after the collapse around 1:30 a.m. June 24.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/one-week-after-miami-building-collapse-search-rescue-halted-due-n1272891
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This is getting worse and worse. 888cryingkitty
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A living, breathing nightmare
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Emergency physician gathering photos among wreckage of Surfside building collapse
A physician providing medical care to the dozens of emergency responders conducting rescue efforts for the 145 people who remain unaccounted for following last week’s Surfside, Fla., building collapse is also working to collect photos and other personal items found among the debris.
Benjamin Abo, who arrived at the Champlain Towers South building following its partial collapse early in the morning last Thursday, told The Associated Press that he and others quickly began finding photos and personal items among the debris.
“On the first morning that I was here, [we] came out from the garage and looked down and we see a wedding photo,” Abo said. “Obviously from ’70s, maybe early ’80s, in a synagogue.”
The doctor, who serves as the medical director of Miami-Dade Fire Rescue’s Urban Search and Rescue Team, added, “And then all of the sudden we find some more wedding photos, or a bar mitzvah photo, or some vacation photos.”
“And it really started building up," he continued. "And then when we started getting access to other rooms, bedrooms and living rooms and things like that, you really start to piece together who was here."
more
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/561256-emergency-physician-gathering-photos-among-wreckage-of-surfside
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Elsa tropical storm should reach Florida by Monday night into Tuesday. Normally, this is too early for a hurricane. Terrible this is coming. Hope it stays a tropical storm and does not develop into a hurricane, however, tropical storms can dump large amounts of rain. I so hope this does not happen.
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Exxon had what, exactly, to do with a leaky pool deck?
I think that was heavy sarcasm...
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It's a conspiracy, Jewish photo paper is superior. /s
Sorry, my mind is warped today.
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I think that was heavy sarcasm...
Oh, okay, my Bad. (some oil on that concrete might have protected it...)