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Title: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in new p
Post by: libertybele on August 16, 2022, 10:41:01 pm
I don't hold too much stock in polls these days, but Rubio isn't exactly a popular Senator. While I'm not looking forward to a DEM Senator here in FL I will feel some kind of satisfaction if Marco the RINO loses his seat.

Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in new poll

Democratic candidate Val Demings is leading GOP Sen. Marco Rubio in Florida's tight U.S. Senate race, while Nikki Fried tops opponents as most likely candidate to challenge Gov. Ron DeSantis in the November midterms, according to a new poll.

The University of North Florida released the results of a survey Tuesday that revealed Florida voters' choices for the state's gubernatorial and Senate primary races, while also looking ahead to November.

Demings, the former chief of police in Orlando and current congresswoman, was ahead in the Aug. 23 Democratic Senate primary with 80% support. Candidates Candace Daniel and Robert Willis lagged with less than 5% of the vote.

When Florida voters were asked about November's midterm Senate race, Demings came out on top against Rubio with 48% support to Rubio's 44%.

Elizabeth Gregory, spokeswoman for the Rubio campaign, reacted to the poll in a statement to Fox News Digital.

"This is Florida, and we’ve always said it would be a tight race," Gregory said. "This is a choice between Marco’s proven record of results and Val Demings, who votes 100% of the time for Pelosi’s failed agenda. Given that choice, we are more than confident that we will win."

"The more Florida voters know about Chief Demings, the more they like her," Demings' spokesperson Christian Slater told Fox News Digital in a statement. "That’s why we are laser-focused on aggressively introducing her to every corner of the state and bringing our message to every community. And our grassroots fundraising makes it possible. While Marco Rubio desperately begs for donations on Fox News, Chief Demings is building a campaign fueled by supporters who are fired up and ready to defeat a career politician who doesn’t show up for work."................

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/demings-leads-rubio-heated-senate-race-desantis-remains-voters-top-choice-governor-new-poll
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: roamer_1 on August 16, 2022, 11:24:46 pm
'Fried'... What, do you say that like 'freed'?

Because if you say it like it looks, I'd have to name my kids Chicken, Steak, and Green Tomatoes.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2022, 05:07:04 pm
If Demmings wins, it will be because Rubio did it to himself.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Wingnut on August 17, 2022, 05:08:38 pm
'Fried'... What, do you say that like 'freed'?

Because if you say it like it looks, I'd have to name my kids Chicken, Steak, and Green Tomatoes.

 :laugh:

Fried or not...Her goose is cooked.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: LMAO on August 17, 2022, 07:29:06 pm
The Senate is shaping up to be tough for the GOP this year. It’s still early, but early indications are that the GOP is going to really struggle to take the Senate.

With both Oz and Walker in trouble, and if the seat is lost, Democrats could actually expand their majority in the Senate
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: dfwgator on August 17, 2022, 07:31:33 pm
The Senate is shaping up to be tough for the GOP this year. It’s still early, but early indications are that the GOP is going to really struggle to take the Senate.

With both Oz and Walker in trouble, and if the seat is lost, Democrats could actually expand their majority in the Senate

The Senate is pretty much RINO central anyway,  it's going to take a few election cycles to clean it out,   it's all about the House this time around.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Kamaji on August 17, 2022, 07:33:33 pm
The Senate is shaping up to be tough for the GOP this year. It’s still early, but early indications are that the GOP is going to really struggle to take the Senate.

With both Oz and Walker in trouble, and if the seat is lost, Democrats could actually expand their majority in the Senate

:facepalm2:


Once again, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: LMAO on August 17, 2022, 07:54:23 pm
:facepalm2:


Once again, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

It’s still early and the campaign season doesn’t get well underway until after Labor Day weekend. But I’m not as confident about the Senate as I am about the HOR

But many  a candidate who looked like a lost cause in Aug did go on to win their election in November.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2022, 08:03:28 pm
If Demmings wins, it will be because Rubio did it to himself.

In my books, he's already done it to himself.  He ran for president, gave up his Senate seat, and after he lost he stated that he was no longer interested in politics and then he decided he wanted his Senate seat back. Prior to that the Gang of Eight.  He's a RINO.  The Senate needs a DEM in his seat like a hole in the head, but one less RINO like Rubio IMO, the better.

I cannot and will not vote for anyone that gave into and joined the country club and Marco did so long ago.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 09:16:06 pm
In my books, he's already done it to himself.  He ran for president, gave up his Senate seat, and after he lost he stated that he was no longer interested in politics and then he decided he wanted his Senate seat back. Prior to that the Gang of Eight.  He's a RINO.  The Senate needs a DEM in his seat like a hole in the head, but one less RINO like Rubio IMO, the better.

I cannot and will not vote for anyone that gave into and joined the country club and Marco did so long ago.

Not going to argue with a word you said @libertybele but would point out that having control of the senate is a big deal. Let's not cede that to the Communists.

I have already notified the governor of my state that I will not be voting FOR him in November. I will  be voting against his opponent.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Ghost Bear on August 17, 2022, 09:18:40 pm
Not going to argue with a word you said @libertybele but would point out that having control of the senate is a big deal. Let's not cede that to the Communists.

So what do you do when some of the Republicans are also Communists?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 09:21:07 pm
So what do you do when some of the Republicans are also Communists?  :shrug:

Sometimes in war you have to make distasteful choices. And we ARE at war.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on August 17, 2022, 09:49:49 pm
Rubio could be a wet noodle at times.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2022, 10:00:40 pm
Not going to argue with a word you said @libertybele but would point out that having control of the senate is a big deal. Let's not cede that to the Communists.

I have already notified the governor of my state that I will not be voting FOR him in November. I will  be voting against his opponent.


Voting against Rubio's opponent is one way of looking at it and yes, getting a majority in the Senate is a big deal, certainly McConnell doesn't help matters.

Help me out here; most of the Senate is comprised of RINO's and the sooner we get rid of them, the better.  Rubio losing his seat would be getting rid of one.

Along with everyone else, I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 10:06:22 pm
Voting against Rubio's opponent is one way of looking at it and yes, getting a majority in the Senate is a big deal, certainly McConnell doesn't help matters.

Help me out here; most of the Senate is comprised of RINO's and the sooner we get rid of them, the better.  Rubio losing his seat would be getting rid of one.

Along with everyone else, I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.

IMHO, the time to get rid of RINOs is in primaries (witness Wyoming last night) not general elections.

Rubio might betray you at times but Val Demmings is a guaranteed vote against you on every issue!
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2022, 10:19:29 pm
IMHO, the time to get rid of RINOs is in primaries (witness Wyoming last night) not general elections.

Rubio might betray you at times but Val Demmings is a guaranteed vote against you on every issue!

Yes, I see your point on both.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2022, 10:31:22 pm
IMHO, the time to get rid of RINOs is in primaries (witness Wyoming last night) not general elections.

Rubio might betray you at times but Val Demmings is a guaranteed vote against you on every issue!

That would be true except in that RINOs control the primaries. All they have to do is cut the money and media out from under their opponents in the primaries, and then they know they will get your vote in the general - That is how it has gone, over and over again, most of my life.

I REFUSE to vote for anything other than Conservative - All the various strategies have done is fill the Republican party with RINOs doing things I abhor.

No more. And never again. Them bastards have to GO. One way or the other.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 10:35:36 pm
That would be true except in that RINOs control the primaries. All they have to do is cut the money and media out from under their opponents in the primaries, and then they know they will get your vote in the general - That is how it has gone, over and over again, most of my life.

I REFUSE to vote for anything other than Conservative - All the various strategies have done is fill the Republican party with RINOs doing things I abhor.

No more. And never again. Them bastards have to GO. One way or the other.

They only get away with that crap because WE let them! I'm not playing! I will vote for the candidate I choose not the one THEY choose for me! @roamer_1
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2022, 10:37:59 pm
That would be true except in that RINOs control the primaries. All they have to do is cut the money and media out from under their opponents in the primaries, and then they know they will get your vote in the general - That is how it has gone, over and over again, most of my life.

I REFUSE to vote for anything other than Conservative - All the various strategies have done is fill the Republican party with RINOs doing things I abhor.

No more. And never again. Them bastards have to GO. One way or the other.

I hear what you are saying, however, Rubio is running unopposed. That in itself is a problem  No one has stepped up to challenge him.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2022, 10:46:27 pm
They only get away with that crap because WE let them! I'm not playing! I will vote for the candidate I choose not the one THEY choose for me! @roamer_1

Then 'vote them out in the primary and vote the ticket in the general' remains false.
In optimal conditions it could be of service, but it remains false.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2022, 10:48:34 pm
I hear what you are saying, however, Rubio is running unopposed. That in itself is a problem  No one has stepped up to challenge him.

Gang of Eight. He would not get my mark. I would walk on by and let the chips fall where they may.

How many times has the Go8 foiled Conservative advancements?
No way I would vote *FOR* more of that.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 11:04:04 pm
Then 'vote them out in the primary and vote the ticket in the general' remains false.
In optimal conditions it could be of service, but it remains false.

 :beer:

We continue to disagree on this point.   :beer:
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: cato potatoe on August 17, 2022, 11:04:28 pm
Rubio has been squishy since 2020, but his lifetime ACU score is 88%.  That is lower than 17 other senators, and higher than 82.  He can be primaried if he drifts too far between now and 2028.  Keep in mind however, Florida is barely right of center.  I don't know if Rick Scott will survive 2024, but I do know if the dems get two more seats, you can say goodbye filibuster, goodbye supreme court, hello federal election-rigging, and the flag will have more stars on it.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2022, 11:05:56 pm
Rubio has been squishy since 2020, but his lifetime ACU score is 88%.  That is lower than 17 other senators, and higher than 82.  He can be primaried if he drifts too far between now and 2028.  Keep in mind however, Florida is barely right of center.  I don't know if Rick Scott will survive 2024, but I do know if the dems get two more seats, you can say goodbye filibuster, goodbye supreme court, hello federal election-rigging, and the flag will have more stars on it.

Sadly, that is all true.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: Kamaji on August 17, 2022, 11:29:09 pm
Rubio has been squishy since 2020, but his lifetime ACU score is 88%.  That is lower than 17 other senators, and higher than 82.  He can be primaried if he drifts too far between now and 2028.  Keep in mind however, Florida is barely right of center.  I don't know if Rick Scott will survive 2024, but I do know if the dems get two more seats, you can say goodbye filibuster, goodbye supreme court, hello federal election-rigging, and the flag will have more stars on it.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2022, 11:33:20 pm
Rubio has been squishy since 2020, but his lifetime ACU score is 88%.  That is lower than 17 other senators, and higher than 82.  He can be primaried if he drifts too far between now and 2028.  Keep in mind however, Florida is barely right of center.  I don't know if Rick Scott will survive 2024, but I do know if the dems get two more seats, you can say goodbye filibuster, goodbye supreme court, hello federal election-rigging, and the flag will have more stars on it.

I believe Scott's seat in the House is likely safe.  The Senate is problematic to begin with because of McConnell and that's not changing in the near future and it looks like the DEMS could expand their majority in the upcoming midterms.

Having a victory in the House would be nice, but you make a valid point it is the Senate that is really key.  Should the GOP win the House, and the Senate expands, they actually would gain power and more control.

Just my opinion here, but again, we're trying to hold this country together from the top down. I am a firm believer in Dr. Ron Paul's theory; it is more beneficial to build from the ground up with a conservative city council, mayor, legislature, and governor.  Right now in FL, we have just that; a conservative House and Senate and a conservative governor and that has so far proven very effective.
Title: Re: Demings leads Rubio in heated Senate race, DeSantis remains voters' top choice for governor in n
Post by: roamer_1 on August 17, 2022, 11:53:44 pm
We continue to disagree on this point.   :beer:

No skin off my nose... I ain't a Republican anymore anyway...

But that's why there will always be a preponderance of RINOs at the ready to foil any Conservative advances.

 :seeya: