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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by the OlLine Rebel on Today at 12:00:09 am »
Quote from: banddag on April 27, 2024, 05:12:49 pm
EV's are not going anywhere and will take over. I drove a Tesla and it was an incredible drive. How many people after buying a battery powered drill still use their plug in drill. Not many. I went to my local Pilot truck stop this morning to get gas and they are putting in 25 ev chargers.

Ford Lightenings was a mistake to begin with but do not blame EV's over them.

First off, you’re comparing 2 small items to each other.

2nd, both are “electric”.

3rd, people will use corded if it’s easy access.  Batteries for these are now quite good, but they do require charging and lose power to handle those torques.  Plus, batteries are still big and cause a handling difficulty such as balance by their bulk.

Don’t scoff.  I made complaints like this about CDs 20 years ago and people looked at me funny like how could I say that?  Where are CDs now?  Those same people are scoffing at how old fashioned they are with my same critiques.

Not that I expect battery power tools to go away, but they are legitimate complaints - except batteries get better so long-term usage is possible without balance problems.
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by Kamaji on April 27, 2024, 11:56:41 pm »
Quote from: banddag on April 27, 2024, 11:09:47 pm
I just. gave a few examples. Home Depot is going to solar all or most of their stores by 2035.  Chase bank in Columbus put solar over their parking lot and it supplies 90% of their needs. This is a regional office with 10,000 employees. The grid will be fine. The free market will prevail. Toll Brothers said over 30% of their new private home construction is installing solar d that figure is growing each year.

I was at my local power equipment dealer today. He said in 5 years all the zero turns  and mowers sold will be electric. Currently, 75% of their trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw s etc sales are electric. No one wants to deal with gas and oil anymore.

Every company is coming out with commercial use electric zero turns.
 
If you drive up Rt 23 out of Columbu Oh into Michigan every other factory is installing solar.

This anti EV & renewables thing with conservatives is truly the  most ignorant stance of all time.


The Black & Decker reference is amusing.  Do you know how much ground they used to build that solar panel farm?  15 acres.  To generate 4.3MW of electricity.

Do you know how scalable that is?

No, I didn't think you did.  F**king idiots like you never do.

For comparison's sake, NYC consumes about 5,500 MW of electricity currently.  That means that, using the B&D plant as a model, in order to run NYC - Just NYC, not any other municipality - would require about 20,000 acres devoted to solar panels.  That's about half the size of Washington, D.C.

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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by Kamaji on April 27, 2024, 11:46:02 pm »
Wow.  Who invited the f**king idiot to the party?
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by banddag on April 27, 2024, 11:44:52 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 27, 2024, 11:30:47 pm
You never addressed charging a 100 kWh battery in 6 minutes. It literally takes over a million watts to do. It would take 21 houses with modern 200 amp power panels at full capacity all at the same time to do it.

My BIL is a retired 3 tar general and is now VP of a major defense contactor. All future military vehicles. is going EV  because the advantages are superior over diesel on the battlefield. He cannot tell me what they are working on but he did say current batteries are 3rd generations and they are working on 12 the generation batteries.
He did say they are perfecting batteries that can be changed out on the battlefield in 2 minutes. The zero turn commercial grade mowers a I saw on youtube  are like this. Individual batteries with handles that pull out and  replaced in seconds.
He was at one of the largest defense trade shows in the world in Qatar. Every defense contractor is moving forward with EV's.

I never did say this would happen overnight. ..but ev's are here to stay.

Again if you drove one you would see why. The ride/response etc  is incredible.
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by the OlLine Rebel on April 27, 2024, 11:41:41 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 27, 2024, 11:26:38 pm
Subsidies is why so many are doing it.  Everyone else is paying for it.

Have any engineers as friends? Go talk to one.

I never specialized in any of these types of things, but I was an engineer.

Never mind a real consumer using these things.

I’m telling you, electric will never “cut” with mowers and other “small” engine devices requiring more literal power and torque than exactly those VERY small items mentioned - leaf blowers, weed whacker etc.  great for that, but don’t try to do a whole yard with heavy grass on an electric charge.

And how are commercial cutters going to charge those machines constantly on a run over the whole day?  Generator now, on their trailers?  LOL. tell customers they need to plug in some?  Head back to base and recharge and switch machines?
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California / Re: Celebrity chef blasts $50 minimum wage proposal
« Last post by rustynail on April 27, 2024, 11:32:44 pm »
One big Union.
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by DB on April 27, 2024, 11:30:47 pm »
Quote from: banddag on April 27, 2024, 11:09:47 pm
I just. gave a few examples. Home Depot is going to solar all or most of their stores by 2035.  Chase bank in Columbus put solar over their parking lot and it supplies 90% of their needs. This is a regional office with 10,000 employees. The grid will be fine. The free market will prevail. Toll Brothers said over 30% of their new private home construction is installing solar d that figure is growing each year.

I was at my local power equipment dealer today. He said in 5 years all the zero turns  and mowers sold will be electric. Currently, 75% of their trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw s etc sales are electric. No one wants to deal with gas and oil anymore.

Every company is coming out with commercial use electric zero turns.
 
If you drive up Rt 23 out of Columbu Oh into Michigan every other factory is installing solar.

This anti EV & renewables thing with conservatives is truly the  most ignorant stance of all time.

You never addressed charging a 100 kWh battery in 6 minutes. It literally takes over a million watts to do. It would take 21 houses with modern 200 amp power panels at full capacity all at the same time to do it.
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by DB on April 27, 2024, 11:26:38 pm »
Quote from: banddag on April 27, 2024, 11:09:47 pm
I just. gave a few examples. Home Depot is going to solar all or most of their stores by 2035.  Chase bank in Columbus put solar over their parking lot and it supplies 90% of their needs. This is a regional office with 10,000 employees. The grid will be fine. The free market will prevail. Toll Brothers said over 30% of their new private home construction is installing solar d that figure is growing each year.

I was at my local power equipment dealer today. He said in 5 years all the zero turns  and mowers sold will be electric. Currently, 75% of their trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw s etc sales are electric. No one wants to deal with gas and oil anymore.

Every company is coming out with commercial use electric zero turns.
 
If you drive up Rt 23 out of Columbu Oh into Michigan every other factory is installing solar.

This anti EV & renewables thing with conservatives is truly the  most ignorant stance of all time.

Subsidies is why so many are doing it.  Everyone else is paying for it.

Have any engineers as friends? Go talk to one.
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Climate Change / Re: Ford “Drastically” Cutting EV Lightning Workforce Hours
« Last post by banddag on April 27, 2024, 11:09:47 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on April 27, 2024, 10:57:57 pm
:silly:

I did say at least 700 full-size nuclear plants, didn't I?  177 natural gas plants isn't going to cut it.

And neither will solar, or any other falsely-labeled "renewable".

WADR, why are you people so f**king abysmally stupid?  Serious question.

I just. gave a few examples. Home Depot is going to solar all or most of their stores by 2035.  Chase bank in Columbus put solar over their parking lot and it supplies 90% of their needs. This is a regional office with 10,000 employees. The grid will be fine. The free market will prevail. Toll Brothers said over 30% of their new private home construction is installing solar d that figure is growing each year.

I was at my local power equipment dealer today. He said in 5 years all the zero turns  and mowers sold will be electric. Currently, 75% of their trimmers, leaf blowers, chainsaw s etc sales are electric. No one wants to deal with gas and oil anymore.

Every company is coming out with commercial use electric zero turns.
 
If you drive up Rt 23 out of Columbu Oh into Michigan every other factory is installing solar.

This anti EV & renewables thing with conservatives is truly the  most ignorant stance of all time.
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World News / Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Last post by mountaineer on April 27, 2024, 11:02:37 pm »
Dumisani Washington
@DumisaniTemsgen
So, the US military is building a pier in Gaza (that no one asked for) to ensure supplies reach the Palestinians (whom Hamas is depriving of food) and needs the Israeli military to protect them from Palestinians attacking them who, again, don't want the pier in the first place.
And who's paying for this leftist idiocy posing as a foreign policy that is only enriching corrupt US politicians and defense contractors?
American taxpayers.
4:00 PM · Apr 26, 2024


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