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Title: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 26, 2017, 08:40:42 pm
   Since certain Briefers are claiming an overwhelming Trump hate on this site I thought that perhaps I’d go to the Source-The Briefers themselves, who make this place such an Interesting Experience, regardless of views on OUR President.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mirraflake on May 26, 2017, 08:51:21 pm
About 8-10 are so anti Trump they call themselves  conservatives but I don't know at this point. I do know their anti trump hatred is doing nothing but helping liberals.

Jeesh help the guy out willya? So far I think TRump is doing  a great job.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 26, 2017, 08:55:33 pm
Those who see anything critical of Trump or what he does as hate and supporting the 'coup', MSM media/Hillary/Democrats will insist that TBR is full of Trump hate. 

The rest of us who still value foundational principles of Conservatism and are not shy of pointing out where Trump and his Administration fail in upholding them, will not.

Simple as that.

I find it hilarious that a people who support a lifelong NYC liberal Democrat who is now the GOP standard-bearer, are the very people insisting that anyone who does not support everything the lifelong NYC liberal Democrat says and does, is "helping liberals".

I find that hilarious.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Axeslinger on May 26, 2017, 09:15:12 pm
Sorry, when he acts like a dumbass lib (read: like he has for most of his life) I'm gonna call him on it.  When he acts contrary to the Founders vision, I'm gonna call him on it.  When he gets it right, I will tip my hat and say, " well done, sir"

That is not someone's ridiculous notion of Trump hate...that's called "holding true to one's principles" and being intellectually honest.   The kool-aid drinkers should try it sometime.   It's quite liberating.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 26, 2017, 09:40:41 pm
And when 'overblown' wins handily (as it should, as well as if the question were asked in the opposite), it will be proof that the site is full of 'haters'.

Seriously, it's about time for a new version of Godwin's Law.  Call someone a hater, you lose all credibility.  It's just such a childish tactic.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Bigun on May 26, 2017, 09:42:59 pm
Some people simply cannot see the forest for all the damned trees!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: driftdiver on May 26, 2017, 09:50:16 pm
Sorry, when he acts like a dumbass lib (read: like he has for most of his life) I'm gonna call him on it.  When he acts contrary to the Founders vision, I'm gonna call him on it.  When he gets it right, I will tip my hat and say, " well done, sir"

That is not someone's ridiculous notion of Trump hate...that's called "holding true to one's principles" and being intellectually honest.   The kool-aid drinkers should try it sometime.   It's quite liberating.

@Axeslinger
IMHO thats not being a Trump hater.   Although I do detest the man we are stuck with him.    With Obama we had a man who was actively doing everything he could to make America weaker.  Obama hates everything America stands for.

I don't think Trump hates America.   Trump is a privileged boy who has never had to answer for any of his mistakes, of which there are plenty.   He has almost no morals, is a poor communicator, and not a deep thinker.   He has the attention span of a gnat.

However he doesn't hate America or our traditional allies.  He has made some good moves so far.  If he'd stay off twitter and only speak from prepared notes (aka telepromter in chief) his weaknesses would be far less apparent and his enemies would have far less ammunition.   Some of his enemies don't need much though to start screaming.   For example there's a massive thread here about his wife slapping his hand and what it might mean.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 26, 2017, 09:54:54 pm
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: starstruck on May 26, 2017, 09:59:53 pm
   Since certain Briefers are claiming an overwhelming Trump hate on this site I thought that perhaps I’d go to the Source-The Briefers themselves, who make this place such an Interesting Experience, regardless of views on OUR President.
I didn't vote for Trump because I didn't believe that he believed in what he said he believed. He has done a couple of things that have made me question my belief, but he has done it holding an automatic rifle on rapid fire pointing directly at his foot. He needs to get control of the Executive Branch. He can't control the Legislative, Judicial or the media but he needs to do whatever it takes to get his Branch straightened out.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 26, 2017, 10:01:07 pm
And when 'overblown' wins handily (as it should, as well as if the question were asked in the opposite), it will be proof that the site is full of 'haters'.

Seriously, it's about time for a new version of Godwin's Law.  Call someone a hater, you lose all credibility.  It's just such a childish tactic.

It the site were full of "haters" wouldn't they win the poll numbers?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 26, 2017, 10:24:35 pm
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

   Only one Man has said it better than you @Frank Cannon

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4EiuDsxkxVI/UkVXZJerlpI/AAAAAAAAGKU/42v8tcJmoWg/s1600/Samuel_Adams_Brushfires_Of_Freedom.jpg)

   Thankfully, Myst seems to be a pretty tolerant Lady, what a great group of people she has assembled to bounce off of. (Am I Brown Nosing again?)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: endicom on May 26, 2017, 10:32:49 pm
Am I Brown Nosing again?


Nancy Boy! ;-)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sighlass on May 26, 2017, 11:00:12 pm
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

@Frank Cannon @Axeslinger

I went to a thread today (FBI leaking security info) and lo and behold, you (Frank) out-of-the-blue make a wise crack about us non-buttkissers for not being on the thread commenting. I have seen that several times lately by Trump worshipers. Just how pathetic are you guys?


Seriously just how bad do you want us to follow in line. I used to march in band before becoming the Drum Major, do you want a high step too? Is there a secret handshake, perhaps a certain salute you want? Perhaps a Trump only section?

You can have the last word, seriously this subject is not worth the time to respond. I agree with Axe, when President Trump does something worthy of praise, give it, when not, don't mince words.

Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 26, 2017, 11:11:42 pm
There's probably a half dozen on either side. Then there's a big group of us in the middle who aren't fan boys and girls, but applaud him when he does right and chastise when he screws up.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: montanajoe on May 26, 2017, 11:14:12 pm
Oh Geez..not this shit again..

It seems there an awful lot of people on both the left and right who need their safe space...

If you are on a political forum tolerant of all views then folks are going to disagree with you..if folks can't handle that they should stay on sites that agree with them so as not to offend their tender sensitivities... 22222frying pan

Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 28, 2017, 04:11:16 pm
@Frank Cannon @Axeslinger

I went to a thread today (FBI leaking security info) and lo and behold, you (Frank) out-of-the-blue make a wise crack about us non-buttkissers for not being on the thread commenting. I have seen that several times lately by Trump worshipers. Just how pathetic are you guys?


Seriously just how bad do you want us to follow in line. I used to march in band before becoming the Drum Major, do you want a high step too? Is there a secret handshake, perhaps a certain salute you want? Perhaps a Trump only section?

You can have the last word, seriously this subject is not worth the time to respond. I agree with Axe, when President Trump does something worthy of praise, give it, when not, don't mince words.

Here's my problem with your bullshit. There are actual crimes and abuses taking place and you #NT's just continue to vomit proven lies spoon fed to you by WaPo and NY Times bashing Donny. If you people showed the same level of anger and contempt at these other things I would be fine with it, but going off on a 20 pages of hate at the President for something that is proven false the next day is GD retarded.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: bigheadfred on May 28, 2017, 04:31:15 pm
I give Trump crap precisely because he is OUR president.

And I try to be even handed with other members, mods, and admin because I also view you all the same as I do trump in that 'respect':

Fair Game.

heh heh heh

seeyaluvyabye
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: dfwgator on May 28, 2017, 04:33:55 pm
Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 28, 2017, 04:35:55 pm
Here's my problem with your bullshit. There are actual crimes and abuses taking place and you #NT's just continue to vomit proven lies spoon fed to you by WaPo and NY Times bashing Donny. If you people showed the same level of anger and contempt at these other things I would be fine with it, but going off on a 20 pages of hate at the President for something that is proven false the next day is GD retarded.

:bigsilly:

Memorial Day bender!!!!!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 28, 2017, 04:50:09 pm
I'm not difficult to please.  See things my way and I'm pleased.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 28, 2017, 05:15:00 pm
Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.

So jump on the bandwagon? I think not.
I am here to promote Conservatism, not liberalism.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: dfwgator on May 28, 2017, 05:21:20 pm
So jump on the bandwagon? I think not.
I am here to promote Conservatism, not liberalism.

And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 28, 2017, 05:24:37 pm
And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.

Deep State? Oh, for cryin out loud.

What will ruin Conservatism is calling liberalism 'conservatism'.
What will ruin Conservatism is defending liberalism as conservatism.
No.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 28, 2017, 05:37:29 pm
And just how do you promote Conservatism?  Talk is cheap.  And like it or not, Trump is the only thing standing in the way of the Deep State, which will forever ruin any chance of Conservatism ever having a chance in this country.  No, Trump isn't Conservative by our standards, I get that.  But, at least he still gives us a fighting chance.

:bigsilly:

Trump is part of the so-called "deep state" - being a dirty NYC real estate developer will do that   
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: EC on May 28, 2017, 05:57:12 pm
Poll needs a third option - boring.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: driftdiver on May 28, 2017, 06:31:37 pm
So jump on the bandwagon? I think not.
I am here to promote Conservatism, not liberalism.

@roamer_1

Well some day when George Washington runs again you'll have your perfect candidate.  In the meantime.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 28, 2017, 06:34:12 pm
@roamer_1

Well some day when George Washington runs again you'll have your perfect candidate.  In the meantime.

I don't need perfect. In the mean time, I certainly don't need to support a left-of-center NYC liberal.
Not a single chance in hell.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 28, 2017, 07:14:26 pm
I don't need perfect. In the mean time, I certainly don't need to support a left-of-center NYC liberal.
Not a single chance in hell.

By their logic, the shift LEFT by both the GOP and the nation itself will continue at an exponential rate with each succeeding election cycle, with the meme employed that 'Stalin' is the only chance we have to stop 'Mao', and that yeah sure 'Stalin' is not perfect - but he's much better for us than 'Mao' would be - never mind BOTH of them are despotic statists at heart with an animus towards individual liberty.

No, that doesn't matter anymore. 

'My king' is better than 'your king' is where we have arrived.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 28, 2017, 07:53:29 pm
Poll needs a third option - boring.

Good point!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 28, 2017, 08:43:14 pm
Hating Trump is about as pointless as hating a rattlesnake. The snake isn't all that bright and doesn't care if you hate it or not.

The idiot who picks the snake up and chucks it into a crowd is the real problem.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 28, 2017, 08:50:27 pm
Hating Trump is about as pointless as hating a rattlesnake. The snake isn't all that bright and doesn't care if you hate it or not.

The idiot who picks the snake up and chucks it into a crowd is the real problem.

Another good point.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2017, 09:38:36 pm
There are only a handful of #NT's and #AT's but they are all louder than hell and spam the shit out of threads.

Is THAT what we do, Frank?    *****rollingeyes*****

 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2017, 09:41:40 pm
It the site were full of "haters" wouldn't they win the poll numbers?

"Guests" are allowed to vote on this poll....so your theory is all blown to hell.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2017, 09:42:28 pm
   Only one Man has said it better than you @Frank Cannon

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4EiuDsxkxVI/UkVXZJerlpI/AAAAAAAAGKU/42v8tcJmoWg/s1600/Samuel_Adams_Brushfires_Of_Freedom.jpg)

   Thankfully, Myst seems to be a pretty tolerant Lady, what a great group of people she has assembled to bounce off of. (Am I Brown Nosing again?)

Yep.....you have it WAAAAAYYYYY up there.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 28, 2017, 10:06:51 pm
Yep.....you have it WAAAAAYYYYY up there.

And, good afternoon to you, little Mr. Sunshine.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Victoria33 on May 28, 2017, 10:10:45 pm
Hating Trump is about as pointless as hating a rattlesnake. The snake isn't all that bright and doesn't care if you hate it or not.
The idiot who picks the snake up and chucks it into a crowd is the real problem.
@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 28, 2017, 10:57:47 pm
The  Russians jacked this poll. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 28, 2017, 11:00:50 pm
The  Russians jacked this poll. 

I think you may be correct!!  :silly:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 28, 2017, 11:04:23 pm
Looks like overwhelming is overwhelming overblown by about 3 votes.

Wouldn't more votes for Overwhelming prove it to be overblown? :silly:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DB on May 28, 2017, 11:11:15 pm
I have a confession.

I accidentally voted for the first (overwhelming) while intending to vote for the second (overblown) but had no way to correct it.

Please forgive me...
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: skeeter on May 28, 2017, 11:11:46 pm
Poll needs a third option - boring.

I'll second that.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 12:17:16 am
    I just turned off Guest Voting to keep you Trumpers from screwing up this Poll, by just clearing your cache, similar as you did in the Primary last year.     
   Your silly scheme to prove your theory that Briefers as a whole hate Trump, is as shallow as most your other arguments.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 12:17:56 am
I give Trump crap precisely because he is OUR president.

And I try to be even handed with other members, mods, and admin because I also view you all the same as I do trump in that 'respect':

Fair Game.

heh heh heh

seeyaluvyabye

@bigheadfred

WINNER.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 12:20:54 am
@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.

@Victoria33

Please don't let anybody run you off the political threads. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 12:28:48 am
    I just turned off Guest Voting to keep you Trumpers from screwing up this Poll, by just clearing your cache, similar as you did in the Primary last year.     
   Your silly scheme to prove your theory that Briefers as a whole hate Trump, is as shallow as most your other arguments.

I think it is safe to say that I despise the Trump Militant far more than I 'hate' Trump himself.

Their behavior simply gets administered onto the Object of their affections and they make it near impossible to even agree with anything his administration does.

That is if they do not tell you that any positive opinion of yours towards something he does is invalid and not wanted, because you refuse to worship him in total as they do.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 12:29:52 am
@Victoria33

Please don't let anybody run you off the political threads.

I agree....please use post report if need be....I hate to see a member say they were run off by another member..that does not sit well with me!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 29, 2017, 12:49:19 am
@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.

Victoria, I for one value your input.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 29, 2017, 01:01:27 am
Victoria, I for one value your input.

@Victoria33

DITTOS.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: EC on May 29, 2017, 01:19:17 am
@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.

That is irritating. Don't like people feeling they can't speak out. Haven't spent my life getting shot at to make the world safe for bullies.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 01:54:41 am
@Mod1 @Mod2
   This poll’s results have been compromised by reasons I explained above.
   I have been here long enough to know that a few people have a distorted interest in making this Forum appear to be riddled with Trump Hate, which it is not, so I ask respectfully, will you clean up MY mess on isle 9?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 02:00:13 am
@Mod1 @Mod2
   This poll’s results have been compromised by reasons I explained above.
   I have been here long enough to know that a few people have a distorted interest in making this Forum appear to be riddled with Trump Hate, which it is not, so I ask respectfully, will you clean up MY mess on isle 9?

Can you not just reset the poll and close it to members only?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Mod1 on May 29, 2017, 02:03:15 am
Poll reset. No guest voting. Everyone who has voted will have to vote again.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: catfish1957 on May 29, 2017, 02:08:17 am
Does Trump have flaws? Absolutely.

But is there a better alternative out there?   I sure don't see it.

Do I consider Trump a Buffoon = Yes
Do I consider Trump to be a liberal = Yes
Is it better that he is in office rather than the Benghazi Bitch = Hell Yes
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 02:11:55 am
   Thank You Mod1
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 02:12:14 am
Do I consider Trump a Buffoon = Yes
Do I consider Trump to be a liberal = Yes
Is it better that he is in office rather than the Benghazi Bitch = Hell Yes

Hater.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2017, 02:37:43 am
Poll reset. No guest voting. Everyone who has voted will have to vote again.

Can't! Says I've already voted!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 03:11:14 am
  I was able to re vote, @Bigun
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Victoria33 on May 29, 2017, 03:28:50 am
Victoria, I for one value your input.
@Lando Lincoln

I put your name on my friend list.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DB on May 29, 2017, 03:54:55 am
@roamer_1
@INVAR
@Cripplecreek
@txradioguy
@Freya
@CatherineofAragon

This thread illustrates why I have stopped posting on political threads.  I read the news articles and if I want to converse with my friends as you above are, plus some others, I will private message you.

Please don't stop posting on political threads. I look forward to reading your comments.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DB on May 29, 2017, 03:55:59 am
Can't! Says I've already voted!

I got a do over and it worked...
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Victoria33 on May 29, 2017, 04:07:14 am
Please don't stop posting on political threads. I look forward to reading your comments.
@DB

You are on my friend list.  I just sent you a private message - I hope it got there as I sent many.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 12:03:48 pm
There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Axeslinger on May 29, 2017, 12:27:00 pm
There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll.
Well, now we know who screwed the last one up!

 :seeya:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 29, 2017, 12:47:12 pm
Well, now we know who screwed the last one up!

 :seeya:

The people who have spent the last few months screeching about vote fraud.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: bigheadfred on May 29, 2017, 01:34:03 pm
in before the devil made me do it

stfu hillary

my two scents were worth six last election so this election my two cents are worth sixth sense he squalls a quorum on the four ...ummmmm... minus tense equals too.... i f u c k i n g  win...

stfu hillary

seeyaluvyabye
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: ConstitutionRose on May 29, 2017, 02:31:09 pm
I didn't vote for Trump due to his "overwhelming" character faults and because I believe that voting for one of two bad choices only encourages more of the same.  However, if Trump were to get his act together and do a good job as President, I'd start wearing one of his red hats in a heartbeat.  I don't see that as very likely given his character, history and age.  This isn't hate.  It's is a realistic assessment if the person.

As to the back and forth between the two camps - as long as it's civil and not personal, I view it as free speech.  And am grateful this forum can support that.  The negative is that when it goes on and on and on, it kills the discussion in what might otherwise be an enlightening thread.  I just quit reading, as do many others.  You could make an argument, that in excess it kills the discussion. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Rivergirl on May 29, 2017, 02:47:57 pm
Can't tell you how offensive it is to be called a 'hater' for disagreeing and or  disapproving of DT's behavior.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: ConstitutionRose on May 29, 2017, 02:48:45 pm
I meant to add to my previous post.  Hubby and I do not discuss politics because we need to stay married AND work together.

@Victoria33

I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Victoria33 on May 29, 2017, 02:54:52 pm
@Victoria33
I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.
@ConstitutionRose

Just put your name on my friend list.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2017, 03:12:04 pm
There are no do-overs in life.  This has now become a democrat poll.

The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 03:15:04 pm
The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

Thank you, O Seer, for finally telling us the true meaning of the poll and motivations of the poster!

 :da man:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 03:18:44 pm
The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

It was a "Push Poll".  Pushed the Trump respondents away.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 03:39:21 pm
This thread went from train-wreck disaster to hilariously entertaining.

Good job, guys!    :beer:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 03:42:23 pm
Quote
@Victoria33

I would really hate to see a member of this forum feel they could not express themselves.  I always look for posts with your name on them.

Don't stop posting on threads....I will not tolerate members being run off a thread by other members..The MODs have been instructed to watch for such threats but please report them..we can't be everywhere.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 04:03:20 pm
The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.


Oh shove it already.  He explained why:

I just turned off Guest Voting to keep you Trumpers from screwing up this Poll, by just clearing your cache, similar as you did in the Primary last year.     
Your silly scheme to prove your theory that Briefers as a whole hate Trump, is as shallow as most your other arguments. 
This poll’s results have been compromised by reasons I explained above.
I have been here long enough to know that a few people have a distorted interest in making this Forum appear to be riddled with Trump Hate, which it is not

Guest voting was turned off so MEMBERS only can vote, and so you cannot just clear your cache and vote as many times as one person wants.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: EC on May 29, 2017, 04:08:12 pm

Oh shove it already.  He explained why:

Guest voting was turned off so MEMBERS only can vote, and so you cannot just clear your cache and vote as many times as one person wants.

Wasting your breath. He's an AT - they believe in a constitutionally protected right to brigade online polls to support the Orange One.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 04:15:02 pm
Crap.  I just had to say something.  (back to train-wreck)

Nevermind.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 04:15:14 pm
Wasting your breath. He's an AT - they believe in a constitutionally protected right to brigade online polls to support the Orange One.

I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 04:23:27 pm
I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.

And, can we then impeach?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: jpsb on May 29, 2017, 04:30:44 pm
:bigsilly:

Trump is part of the so-called "deep state" - being a dirty NYC real estate developer will do that   

You NeverTrumpers are beyond hope. You are so blinded by your hatred of Trump that you are incapable of reason or logic.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 04:32:20 pm
And, can we then impeach?

One is not dependent on the other.  By Gawd this is 'Merica.  Impeachment talk is the new normal.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 29, 2017, 04:32:51 pm
Hopeless.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: jpsb on May 29, 2017, 04:36:35 pm
@Victoria33

Please don't let anybody run you off the political threads.

@Victoria33

I agree with @CatherineofAragon do not let disagreeable people silence you. You have a 1st amendment right to voice your opinions.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 04:37:24 pm
I demand a special TBR council to investigate these so call outsider poll influencers being in cahoots with members who support our President!.

I name you as a Special Council to investigate this matter...
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 04:38:40 pm
Whew...a Wingnut investigation?  Bound to be interesting at least.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 04:45:10 pm
   I must have been stoned when I thought this poll would be good idea.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 04:47:39 pm
I name you as a Special Council to investigate this matter...


Can there possibly be anything more frightening than Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor and "independent" counsel....

Wingnut with a subpoena suspect list.!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 29, 2017, 04:48:45 pm
The problem with using the word "hate" (or love, for that matter) in the context of any political inquiry is that it assumes a binary set of opinions.

The vast majority of members here appear to neither love nor hate Donald Trump. Instead, they tend to either support and defend him on one hand, or oppose and question him on the other, and they do so on the basis of individual issues and events. What ought to be avoided is uncritical and reflexive thinking, and also, ad hominem attacks on those who express opposing views.

Is that really too much to ask?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: EC on May 29, 2017, 04:49:40 pm
Let me be the first to say ..... COVER-UP!!!!

The Special Prosecutor has a vested comedic interest in the identity of the Dem plant remaining unknown.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 04:55:06 pm
I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.

Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2017, 04:56:37 pm
This pretty much sums up the situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrcDonY-B8
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 04:58:01 pm
You NeverTrumpers are beyond hope. You are so blinded by your hatred of Trump that you are incapable of reason or logic.

/snicker

If you knew anything about NYC real estate you'd realize the truth.  But you don't, and you won't inform yourself because God forbid you should challenge your belief in the Great Orange God.

Trump isn't the end of the world by any means.  Go back in history for any length of time and he starts to look outright competent.  But he isn't a great leader, either.  A demagogue?  Yes, he's good at that, but demagoguery is not leadership.

Trump is just one more not-so-great garden variety politician this country will have to tolerate, just as it has with so many others.

I'll take what I can get - Justice Gorsuch, for example - but I'm not going to absolve Trump of all the stupidities, nor of all the future problems he's creating, simply because of Justice Gorsuch.  George W. Bush and his overreaching led directly to Obama.  I am quite worried about what Trump and his idiocies will lead to.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 04:59:51 pm
I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.



   Thank you @CatherineofAragon for the fresh smell of sanity and reason.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 05:01:33 pm
The problem with using the word "hate" (or love, for that matter) in the context of any political inquiry is that it assumes a binary set of opinions.

The vast majority of members here appear to neither love nor hate Donald Trump. Instead, they tend to either support and defend him on one hand, or oppose and question him on the other, and they do so on the basis of individual issues and events. What ought to be avoided is uncritical and reflexive thinking, and also, ad hominem attacks on those who express opposing views.

Is that really too much to ask?

 :amen:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 05:02:07 pm
Let me be the first to say ..... COVER-UP!!!!

The Special Prosecutor has a vested comedic interest in the identity of the Dem plant remaining unknown.



Are you implying I might be somewhat less than objective in my new position to root out the wrong-doers and board subversives and that dreaded Dem plant? 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 05:02:40 pm
   Thank you @CatherineofAragon for the fresh smell of sanity and reason.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


I'll even change my tagline.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 05:05:54 pm
   Appointing @Wingnut Special Prosecutor is akin to appointing Dick Cheney to head your VP Selection Committee, it's a foregone conclusion and besides he's too conspiratorial to judge this objectively.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 05:07:54 pm
   I must have been stoned when I thought this poll would be good idea.

LMAO!   Post of the Day!    :silly: :beer: :silly:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: XenaLee on May 29, 2017, 05:09:07 pm
   Appointing @Wingnut Special Prosecutor is akin to appointing Dick Cheney to head your VP Selection Committee, it's a foregone conclusion and besides he's too conspiratorial to judge this objectively.

Or.... akin to appointing Cheney to lead your Safe Hog Hunting Safari.  Big mistake.   :nono:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Frank Cannon on May 29, 2017, 05:12:44 pm
I don't want to come off as if I have a right to preach, because I know I don't, but I wonder what the result would be if we could be just a little less hotheaded and avoid "shove it" and similar responses.  I'm not calling out anyone specifically, because it isn't only one person that causes so many threads to be locked.

It wouldn't mean caving to someone's POV.  Hell, do it for Memorial Day, or because you respect the job Myst is trying to do, or because you don't want your dog to read your angry posts, or whatever.

We all know you are talking about me. You can shove it.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 05:18:24 pm
We all know you are talking about me. You can shove it.

Wingnut needs to subpoena you!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 29, 2017, 05:26:53 pm

(https://m.popkey.co/b3333a/0mrNz.gif)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 05:27:34 pm
Wingnut needs to subpoena you!

I just named @Frank Cannon as the Special Assistant to the Independent Counsel.  He is subpoenaless.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: bigheadfred on May 29, 2017, 05:29:37 pm
you have knowledge

you have experience

stop it



and  then get one or three

wis

dom
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 05:32:20 pm
WTH bigheadfred..you didn't think that was going to stay up......come on guys..this is a beautiful and solemn day...let's chill out!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 05:38:52 pm
   Appointing @Wingnut Special Prosecutor is akin to appointing Dick Cheney to head your VP Selection Committee, it's a foregone conclusion and besides he's too conspiratorial to judge this objectively.

@corbe I know the law. And I have spent my entire life in its flagrant disregard.   Now ordinarily, I'd take you in my court and try you and hang you for those disparaging remarks upon my character.  But if you've got money for whiskey, I guess we can dispense with those proceedings. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 05:46:58 pm
We all know you are talking about me. You can shove it.

@Frank Cannon


Lmao, you crank

(said with affection)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 05:55:25 pm
   Sure @Wingnut I got some Bourbon, stole a case of this out of @Frank Cannon garage last week, looked everywhere for his Valiums, to no avail, he must carry them on his person at all times, in case he meets a Cruzer.

(http://ei.isnooth.com/multimedia/f/5/3/image_1761590_full.jpeg)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 06:01:58 pm
   Sure @Wingnut I got some Bourbon, stole a case of this out of @Frank Cannon garage last week, looked everywhere for his Valiums, to no avail, he must carry them on his person at all times, in case he meets a Cruzer.

(http://ei.isnooth.com/multimedia/f/5/3/image_1761590_full.jpeg)

Case dismissed!
:beer:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2017, 06:03:28 pm
I don't know which are worst but together the AT crowd and the NT crowd have pretty effectively shut down any objective discussion of anything here IMHO.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2017, 06:08:05 pm
WTH bigheadfred..you didn't think that was going to stay up......come on guys..this is a beautiful and solemn day...let's chill out!

(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2016/01/21/18/5918705.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 06:23:14 pm
The poll is to be run and rerun, until the desired result is achieved, and Trump supporters are put in their proper place here.

That was and remains  the true purpose, and expected outcome.

HEAR!  HEAR!!   :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 06:24:03 pm
I don't know which are worst but together the AT crowd and the NT crowd have pretty effectively shut down any objective discussion of anything here IMHO.

   I respectfully disagree @Bigun
   Sure, there are some Topics where the few Hardcores (NT&AT) get their panties all waded up, but as a whole, maybe attesting to my limited capacity to judge fairly, I can usually recognize when the food fights are about to start and do my damndest to keep out of the weeds, Been there, got beat up, they stole my TShirt.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 06:33:39 pm
HEAR!  HEAR!!   :patriot:

  @DCPatriot
   If you and your Compatriots hadn't skewed the First Poll like you did all online polling during the GOP Primary, this would pretty much be a non issue.
   Old habits are hard to break-Hank Jr. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 06:39:15 pm
  @DCPatriot
   If you and your Compatriots hadn't skewed the First Poll like you did all online polling during the GOP Primary, this would pretty much be a non issue.
   Old habits are hard to break-Hank Jr.

Those are unsubstantiated allegations.   You will refrain from these hearsay and broad brush strokes knee jerk statements or I'll find you in contempt! 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 06:39:21 pm
  @DCPatriot
   If you and your Compatriots hadn't skewed the First Poll like you did all online polling during the GOP Primary, this would pretty much be a non issue.
   Old habits are hard to break-Hank Jr.

I don't know what you're talking about.

My point was that "guests" should not be able to partake on this poll if you're really seeking an honest answer.

And of course, aggressive anti-Trump members will be sure to vote...making it IMPOSSIBLE for anything but "OVERBLOWN" to win.

Trump supporters are out-numbered on this forum at LEAST 4 to 1.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: bigheadfred on May 29, 2017, 06:43:52 pm
Today.

 Today>.......>>>>

STOP

IT

@mystery-ak

NOT

 TODAY

THAT is where THEY should.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 29, 2017, 06:52:13 pm
 That bottle of whiskey is starting to look real good right about now.  Hell, I'm gonna go get me some.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: corbe on May 29, 2017, 06:55:07 pm
(http://mohawknationnews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/perils-of-paulin.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 06:56:58 pm
Well let's just cut to the chase, if the Trump-hate is 'overwhelming' on this board, why do the Trump Faithful and Apologists continue to post here?

Do they think they can 'save us' from the error of our opinion?

Do they think they can drive us from this board they way they have just about every other single formerly Conservative forum out there?

Do they think they do the object of their affections any service by poking and instigating each and every opportunity to declare us part of the enemy?

It's not like those of us who are not marching in lock-step to cheerlead everything Trump does and says are going to change our minds simply because we are 'embarrassed' that a majority here are not Trump fanatics.  As with every other political issue that exists, to disagree is to 'hate', to refuse to support and join the cause, is to 'hate'.  It's just the new PC way to silence dissent and debate.

What has been illustrative in terms of real-hate, is not the ambivalence and indifference the majority has for Trump, (they will applaud when he serves rightly and excoriate him for when he does disservice) but in what other members here have for those who have refused to 'get on the train':

Quote
Reply #223 on: May 24, 2017, 01:14:31 PM

I embrace the hatred I have for the likes of you and your ilk here on the forum.

I don't deny it.

You, OTOH, get your panties all twisted, because your "hatred" of Pres. Trump...AND his supporters...has been on full display here for all to see.

To disagree is to 'hate'.  This is what now exists in terms of the internecine warfare that now engulfs what remains of Conservatism.   And it is not going away.

Because the country is now polarized into camp thinking.  Either you are in lock-step with us, or you are to be counted as the enemy and dealt with as one.  No one has the luxury of their principles or the liberty to choose differently, because - the country is at stake.

So it is said.

This is one of the last refuges online for Conservatives to gather and discuss our principles in light of events without having to be wearing MAGA headgear and t-shirts while waving his flag.  Most of us newer members have come here from somewhere else that we were no longer welcome at because we dared to question or refuse support of Trump, and it appears to us that the idea of a 'Conservative board' that does not support Trump must be discredited and it's members harassed and impugned.

Some of them engage in that stuff by badmouthing THIS board on the other boards and forums where they are ALL in lockstep with no dissent permitted or allowed.

If Trump *hate* is overwhelming here - and Trump *love* is the most important thing to discuss, why do they continue to hang here when they have plenty of other places to be among like minds?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 07:30:10 pm
Well let's just cut to the chase, if the Trump-hate is 'overwhelming' on this board, why do the Trump Faithful and Apologists continue to post here?

Do they think they can 'save us' from the error of our opinion?

Do they think they can drive us from this board they way they have just about every other single formerly Conservative forum out there?

Do they think they do the object of their affections any service by poking and instigating each and every opportunity to declare us part of the enemy?

It's not like those of us who are not marching in lock-step to cheerlead everything Trump does and says are going to change our minds simply because we are 'embarrassed' that a majority here are not Trump fanatics.  As with every other political issue that exists, to disagree is to 'hate', to refuse to support and join the cause, is to 'hate'.  It's just the new PC way to silence dissent and debate.

What has been illustrative in terms of real-hate, is not the ambivalence and indifference the majority has for Trump, (they will applaud when he serves rightly and excoriate him for when he does disservice) but in what other members here have for those who have refused to 'get on the train':

To disagree is to 'hate'.  This is what now exists in terms of the internecine warfare that now engulfs what remains of Conservatism.   And it is not going away.

Because the country is now polarized into camp thinking.  Either you are in lock-step with us, or you are to be counted as the enemy and dealt with as one.  No one has the luxury of their principles or the liberty to choose differently, because - the country is at stake.

So it is said.

This is one of the last refuges online for Conservatives to gather and discuss our principles in light of events without having to be wearing MAGA headgear and t-shirts while waving his flag.  Most of us newer members have come here from somewhere else that we were no longer welcome at because we dared to question or refuse support of Trump, and it appears to us that the idea of a 'Conservative board' that does not support Trump must be discredited and it's members harassed and impugned.

Some of them engage in that stuff by badmouthing THIS board on the other boards and forums where they are ALL in lockstep with no dissent permitted or allowed.

If Trump *hate* is overwhelming here - and Trump *love* is the most important thing to discuss, why do they continue to hang here when they have plenty of other places to be among like minds?


@INVAR

Don't let it get to you.  There's no point in getting upset about it.

The truth of it is that we're just posting on a forum, and no one is going to run anyone else away.  A couple of other truths are: no one really "hates" Trump, and if others persist in calling it hate, it's their problem and it doesn't matter.  I'm not going to foster drama because guests and lurkers read this board and I want them to see that it's a sane place where they can have a discussion. 

Last but not least, like @bigheadfred said, we criticize the president because he IS the president.  It's the American thing to do.  No one is obligated to like Trump, and it's not a shameful thing if they don't.  He's a public servant, that's all.  But some might not accept it, and no one will change their minds.

Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 07:34:20 pm

@INVAR

Don't let it get to you.  There's no point in getting upset about it.

The truth of it is that we're just posting on a forum, and no one is going to run anyone else away.  A couple of other truths are: no one really "hates" Trump, and if others persist in calling it hate, it's their problem and it doesn't matter.  I'm not going to foster drama because guests and lurkers read this board and I want them to see that it's a sane place where they can have a discussion. 

Last but not least, like @bigheadfred said, we criticize the president because he IS the president.  It's the American thing to do.  No one is obligated to like Trump, and it's not a shameful thing if they don't.  He's a public servant, that's all.  But some might not accept it, and no one will change their minds.

Well said...
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 29, 2017, 07:38:16 pm
@INVAR

Quote
This is one of the last refuges online for Conservatives to gather and discuss our principles in light of events without having to be wearing MAGA headgear and t-shirts while waving his flag.  Most of us newer members have come here from somewhere else that we were no longer welcome at because we dared to question or refuse support of Trump, and it appears to us that the idea of a 'Conservative board' that does not support Trump must be discredited and it's members harassed and impugned.

 :thumbsup:

I refer you to my second-to-last post on this thread. As for the very last, yes, I got myself some whiskey, with which I now offer a toast to our fallen heroes:

(http://fredminnick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/1792-Ridgemont-Reserve-23-590x381.jpg)

I left TOS in part because of the kind of crap that we are seeing too much of here. We can disagree about Donald Trump, but we all still love America and our families and our friends.

To discuss, and even to argue about politics is a worthy and responsible endeavor.

But to make of one's political and tribal fealty a central defining premise of self-worth and a measure of the worth of others is what Conservativism explicitly rejects.

Let us please leave that to the Progressives.

 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 07:38:26 pm

Don't let it get to you.  There's no point in getting upset about it.

I'm not upset about it at all.

I just don't tolerate snide bullies and disparagement of fellows simply because we are governed by principles they consider foolish and an obstacle.

That's all. 

@Victoria33 's comment about not commenting on threads because of the atmosphere pretty much set me on the course to write that last entry.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 07:44:50 pm
@INVAR

 :thumbsup:

I refer you to my second-to-last post on this thread. As for the very last, yes, I got myself some whiskey, with which I now offer a toast to our fallen heroes:

(http://fredminnick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/1792-Ridgemont-Reserve-23-590x381.jpg)


Zum Wohl Prost!!!!

(https://www.hacker-pschorr.com/sites/default/files/s_images/start-header/teaser_homepage-geselligkeit_0.jpg?itok=hO9K6IRl)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 07:46:24 pm
I'm not upset about it at all.

I just don't tolerate snide bullies and disparagement of fellows simply because we are governed by principles they consider foolish and an obstacle.

That's all. 

@Victoria33 's comment about not commenting on threads because of the atmosphere pretty much set me on the course to write that last entry.

@INVAR

I completely understand that. I don't take well to being bullied, either.  But we kind of have to keep the environment in mind at the same time. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 29, 2017, 07:54:32 pm
Zum Wohl Prost!!!!

(https://www.hacker-pschorr.com/sites/default/files/s_images/start-header/teaser_homepage-geselligkeit_0.jpg?itok=hO9K6IRl)


Danke, mein Freund!


We won the war, right?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 07:55:32 pm


PWI????????
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: bigheadfred on May 29, 2017, 07:57:48 pm
TALK
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 07:58:50 pm

Danke, mein Freund!


We won the war, right?

We did.  And as a direct result we can buy their beer and sing songs to button box accompaniment.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 07:59:43 pm
TALK

Bourbon, Scotch, Whiskey, Beer or grain alcohol?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: jpsb on May 29, 2017, 08:00:22 pm
/snicker

If you knew anything about NYC real estate you'd realize the truth.  But you don't, and you won't inform yourself because God forbid you should challenge your belief in the Great Orange God.

Trump isn't the end of the world by any means.  Go back in history for any length of time and he starts to look outright competent.  But he isn't a great leader, either.  A demagogue?  Yes, he's good at that, but demagoguery is not leadership.

Trump is just one more not-so-great garden variety politician this country will have to tolerate, just as it has with so many others.

I'll take what I can get - Justice Gorsuch, for example - but I'm not going to absolve Trump of all the stupidities, nor of all the future problems he's creating, simply because of Justice Gorsuch.  George W. Bush and his overreaching led directly to Obama.  I am quite worried about what Trump and his idiocies will lead to.

Get back to me when your can compose a coherent argument.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2017, 08:07:13 pm
@INVAR

 :thumbsup:

I refer you to my second-to-last post on this thread. As for the very last, yes, I got myself some whiskey, with which I now offer a toast to our fallen heroes:

(http://fredminnick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/1792-Ridgemont-Reserve-23-590x381.jpg)

I left TOS in part because of the kind of crap that we are seeing too much of here. We can disagree about Donald Trump, but we all still love America and our families and our friends.

To discuss, and even to argue about politics is a worthy and responsible endeavor.

But to make of one's political and tribal fealty a central defining premise of self-worth and a measure of the worth of others is what Conservativism explicitly rejects.

Let us please leave that to the Progressives.
888high58888  :beer:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Mod1 on May 29, 2017, 08:09:48 pm
That's enough, Fred.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2017, 08:14:54 pm
Get back to me when your can compose a coherent argument.

"If you knew anything about NYC real estate you'd realize the truth."

You are "less than," since you presumably do not know anything about NYC real estate like he does.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: jpsb on May 29, 2017, 08:14:58 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 08:25:12 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.

@jpsb, I don't agree that NeverTrumpers outnumber Trumpers here.  I'd say the vast majority are people who voted in what they would call a "pragmatic" way---they didn't like Trump, but they liked Hillary less.

Even if it were true, the reverse is the case on that other site, so it all washes out in the end.

I agree, policies matter.  That's why I want to see Trump make good on his promises.  He needs to get off Twitter, repeal Obamacare, defund Planned Parenthood, build the wall, cut taxes, and a number of other things he said he would do.  So far I'm not seeing that much. 
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Victoria33 on May 29, 2017, 08:30:18 pm
And of course, aggressive anti-Trump members will be sure to vote...making it IMPOSSIBLE for anything but "OVERBLOWN" to win.
Trump supporters are out-numbered on this forum at LEAST 4 to 1.
@DCPatriot

I didn't vote - it was a dumb poll because I knew it would start another verbal fight just as the political threads start now.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 08:35:12 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.

If things are as bad as you say, why are you still here?  Why not go to greener pastures?  You either like it here, or you're a troll; either way, you're also a liar.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 08:42:34 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.

Wait a minute....I am a conservative probably the most conservative person on this forum, but I don't consider Trump a conservative although he is pushing some conserv policies...that does not make you a conservative.

And stop with the DNC talking points shit here...there are no Libs on TBR.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 08:50:04 pm

And stop with the DNC talking points shit here...there are no Libs on TBR.

Except for that dem plant....I'm gonna find him if it's the last thing I ever do.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: truth_seeker on May 29, 2017, 08:57:51 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.

The purpose of the poll was to demonstrate NT superiority, since NT has been almost continuously wrong since last spring and the primaries. Anything to bolster their diminished spirits.

Tomorrow it will be something new, from the leftist press, Euro press, democrat talking points, or some sermon.

Meanwhile in reality land, I believe the vast majority of Veterans are strongly in favor of Trump. This is Memorial Day, about Veterans.

(http://www.covermytimeline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/trump-flag-veterans-make-america-great-again-facebook-timeline-cover.jpg)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kabc/images/cms/2050717_800x450.jpg)

Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 08:59:57 pm
Wait a minute....I am a conservative probably the most conservative person on this forum, but I don't consider Trump a conservative although he is pushing some conserv policies...that does not make you a conservative.

And stop with the DNC talking points shit here...there are no Libs on TBR.


@mystery-ak


(http://www.z31.net/images10/clapping-gif20.gif)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 09:02:32 pm
@DCPatriot

I didn't vote - it was a dumb poll because I knew it would start another verbal fight just as the political threads start now.

I voted...just to prove a point.

Common sense....if everybody voted, the "OVERBLOWN" would win hands down.

We don't need a stupid poll to tell us.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 09:19:13 pm
The purpose of the poll was to demonstrate NT superiority, since NT has been almost continuously wrong since last spring and the primaries. Anything to bolster their diminished spirits.

Tomorrow it will be something new, from the leftist press, Euro press, democrat talking points, or some sermon.


If things are as bad as you say, why are you still here?  Why not go to greener pastures?  You either like it here, or you're a troll; either way, you're also a liar.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 09:24:58 pm
And stop with the DNC talking points shit here...there are no Libs on TBR.
Not according to them.

It's what this always boils down to: if we do not support Trump all-the-way-at-all-times and whatever it is he says and does, we are Libs/Hillary supporters/Democrats/DU Trolls/Leftists/Coup supporters/MSM Media operatives etc., etc., etc.

We are either with them in lockstep, or we are the enemy.

Just as I said their mindset was earlier.  They just keep demonstrating it. 

Liberty only exists if you agree with, speak and vote the way they demand it.

Otherwise we are Libs and the enemy.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Sanguine on May 29, 2017, 09:29:20 pm
Sometimes it's best to just shut up and not further raise any hackles, than it is to continue to propound and antagonize and solidify the opposing opinions.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Bigun on May 29, 2017, 09:36:53 pm
Not according to them.

It's what this always boils down to: if we do not support Trump all-the-way-at-all-times and whatever it is he says and does, we are Libs/Hillary supporters/Democrats/DU Trolls/Leftists/Coup supporters/MSM Media operatives etc., etc., etc.

We are either with them in lockstep, or we are the enemy.

Just as I said their mindset was earlier.  They just keep demonstrating it. 

Liberty only exists if you agree with, speak and vote the way they demand it.

Otherwise we are Libs and the enemy.

IMHO there is far too much over the top emotional BS coming from both sides.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 29, 2017, 09:47:00 pm
TBR is HQ for NeverTrump. Sorry, but the NeverTrumpers here overwhelm conservatives. Policies matter, reduce legal immigration, eliminate illegal immigration, renegotiate unfair trade deals and put Americans and American workers first works for me.  Many here oppose that agenda and do nothing but repeat DNC talking points.

Nonsense.
And you'll get none of the above, btw, out of a NY liberal and a crony capitalist.
As I said, over and over during the primaries, How do you guarantee his promises when his record speaks otherwise?
And here we are.

You've been sold a bill of goods.
Trump won't fight the left.
Trump IS the left.

You have been lead down the garden path.
Trump will not fight crony capitalism and globalism.
Trump IS a crony-capitalist and globalist.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 10:04:09 pm
IMHO there is far too much over the top emotional BS coming from both sides.

I don't buy that. 

Most of the visceral Trump arguments here are reactionary as a result of someone like jpsb making a stupid statement about the members here who are not ga-ga with Trump.

The rest of them are usually the results of Conservatives doing a 'see-I-told-you-so' stance in regards to the news, usually associated with Trump's inability to control his thumbs on Twitter, though that silly fight over Trump's wife not holding his little hand was pretty stupid.

Now it's pro-Trump arguments over anger regarding the discussing of 'fake news' or news from sources other than Breitbart.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: andy58-in-nh on May 29, 2017, 10:07:21 pm
Not according to them.

It's what this always boils down to: if we do not support Trump all-the-way-at-all-times and whatever it is he says and does, we are Libs/Hillary supporters/Democrats/DU Trolls/Leftists/Coup supporters/MSM Media operatives etc., etc., etc.

We are either with them in lockstep, or we are the enemy.

Just as I said their mindset was earlier.  They just keep demonstrating it. 

Liberty only exists if you agree with, speak and vote the way they demand it.

Otherwise we are Libs and the enemy.
What you correctly describe is the logical fallacy of "Either-Or" -  a false choice between diametrically opposed beliefs.  It is compounded in this event by an equally classic straw man argument, ascribing undesirable beliefs and risible motives to the person whose opinion is never truly challenged. It is a common refuge of those who refuse to consider the merits of others arguments and seek refuge in deflection, which is not infrequently accompanied by ad hominem insults.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2017, 10:13:23 pm
What you correctly describe is the logical fallacy of "Either-Or" -  a false choice between diametrically opposed beliefs.  It is compounded in this event by an equally classic straw man argument, ascribing undesirable beliefs and risible motives to the person whose opinion is never truly challenged. It is a common refuge of those who refuse to consider the merits of others arguments and seek refuge in deflection, which is not infrequently accompanied by ad hominem insults.
THIS!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2017, 10:38:50 pm
THIS!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e5/b2/8f/e5b28f69b20ab8e067ff50f880de6128.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 10:43:05 pm
THIS!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e5/b2/8f/e5b28f69b20ab8e067ff50f880de6128.jpg)

Then there's one thing you men will be able to say when this war is over and you get back home. Thirty years from now when you're sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, 'What did you do in the great World War Two?' You won't have to cough and say, 'Well, your granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.' No sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say 'Son, your granddaddy rode with the great Third Army and a son-of-a-goddamned-bitch named George Patton!'


And for Frau Merkle suck on this:

Let the first bastards to find out be the goddamned Germans. Someday, I want them to rise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl 'Ach! It's the goddamned Third Army and that son-of-a-bitch Patton again!'
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 10:47:49 pm
I don't buy that. 

Most of the visceral Trump arguments here are reactionary as a result of someone like jpsb making a stupid statement about the members here who are not ga-ga with Trump.

The rest of them are usually the results of Conservatives doing a 'see-I-told-you-so' stance in regards to the news, usually associated with Trump's inability to control his thumbs on Twitter, though that silly fight over Trump's wife not holding his little hand was pretty stupid.

Now it's pro-Trump arguments over anger regarding the discussing of 'fake news' or news from sources other than Breitbart.


Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 10:50:48 pm
Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?


Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 10:53:58 pm
Total bullsh*t.

Anybody can log in as early as noon and you will find a total of six or seven active threads in POLITICS, OPINIONS, SCANDALS, NEWS.....and if the thread has 6 posts, they're ALL anti-Trump, one-line screeds, demeaning the POTUS, calling him all sorts of derogatory names. 

And then, have the gall to get insulted when we suggest they as a group, "HATE" President Trump.

If that ain't 'hate', WTF is?

Well, given that @mystery-ak is one of our most prolific news aggregators on this board, I assume you assert she is a 'Trump hater' for merely posting the news you have decided are one-line anti-Trump, demeaning screeds?

Thanks for making my point in spades there pal!
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 10:57:31 pm
Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.

Yesterday, when I said you were running around the forum, acting like a little girl, you were quick to focus on that and call it an ad hominem attack.

Today, you called @jpsb a troll and a liar.   You refer to President Trump as the "Orange [fill-in-the-blank]

Pot...kettle....black.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 10:58:14 pm
Well, given that @mystery-ak is one of our most prolific news aggregators on this board, I assume you assert she is a 'Trump hater' for merely posting the news you have decided are one-line anti-Trump, demeaning screeds?

Thanks for making my point in spades there pal!

Don't put words in my mouth you worthless POS.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 10:58:27 pm
Go look in a mirror, listen to yourself, and you'll discover exactly what "hate" is like.

He proclaimed boldfaced that he hates us, and is proud to admit it.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 10:58:38 pm
Yesterday, when I said you were running around the forum, acting like a little girl, you were quick to focus on that and call it an ad hominem attack.

Today, you called @jpsb a troll and a liar.   You refer to President Trump as the "Orange [fill-in-the-blank]

Pot...kettle....black.

Nope.  I call it like it is.  You hate.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 10:59:56 pm
Nope.  I call it like it is.  You hate.

We hate each other, slick.     ^-^
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 11:01:26 pm
We hate each other, slick.     ^-^

Whatever.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: EC on May 29, 2017, 11:02:04 pm
So - still boring then.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 11:03:36 pm
Whatever.

You worked hard for it.  Embrace it.    :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Silver Pines on May 29, 2017, 11:03:36 pm
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/11RIDouEyKZ116/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 11:04:09 pm
So - still boring then.

Et tu, Marc.    *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: INVAR on May 29, 2017, 11:04:29 pm
Don't put words in my mouth you worthless POS.

Even though I may be a worthless POS, demeaning POTUS is as American as Apple Pie there bub, and we have every right and privilege to do so, whether you like it or not.

Demeaning members here on this board as POS' however, is not exactly within the desired rules of conduct for this private enterprise and your hate is a bit more personalized than simply our indifference or disapproval of the president.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Oceander on May 29, 2017, 11:04:52 pm
You worked hard for it.  Embrace it.    :laugh:

Your hate isn't worth that much; all it takes is a less than fawning attitude toward your Orange God, Trump.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Cripplecreek on May 29, 2017, 11:05:19 pm
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/11RIDouEyKZ116/giphy.gif)

The fainting couch needs wheels.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 11:05:43 pm
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/11RIDouEyKZ116/giphy.gif)

Excuse me for being out earlier today for my grandson's ballgame.

I come back and start reading new posts.....I'm several pages behind.

So don't give me that drama queen crap, please?

Thank y ou.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2017, 11:07:37 pm
Then there's one thing you men will be able to say when this war is over and you get back home. Thirty years from now when you're sitting by your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks, 'What did you do in the great World War Two?' You won't have to cough and say, 'Well, your granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.' No sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say 'Son, your granddaddy rode with the great Third Army and a son-of-a-goddamned-bitch named George Patton!'


And for Frau Merkle suck on this:

Let the first bastards to find out be the goddamned Germans. Someday, I want them to rise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl 'Ach! It's the goddamned Third Army and that son-of-a-bitch Patton again!'


 :thumbsup3:   :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: roamer_1 on May 29, 2017, 11:07:44 pm
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/11RIDouEyKZ116/giphy.gif)

@CatherineofAragon
LOL!!

No doubt.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 29, 2017, 11:09:08 pm
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/11RIDouEyKZ116/giphy.gif)

Why are you piling on?  This exchange didn't involve you.  @CatherineofAragon
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 29, 2017, 11:09:08 pm
Even though I may be a worthless POS, demeaning POTUS is as American as Apple Pie there bub, and we have every right and privilege to do so, whether you like it or not.

Demeaning members here on this board as POS' however, is not exactly within the desired rules of conduct for this private enterprise and your hate is a bit more personalized than simply our indifference or disapproval of the president.

No it isn't.

I'm sure if Donald Trump never ran for President, you'd still be over at TOS.

I'm sure that if you and I had been there since 1998, we'd have agreed more than disagreed.

Sinkspur was one of my favorite people here.  Ask @mystery-ak   Ask freaking anyone.

And he was your unofficial NT Leader here.

Let's just speak the truth here.   You still have a bug up your a## because Trump has made you look like you don't know WTF you're talking about.

All you have left if foot stomping and complaining.

Instead, you should be giving thanks he's our POTUS>
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: MOD3 on May 29, 2017, 11:09:53 pm
Locked.
Title: Re: Trump-Hate on TBR Overwhelming or Overblown?
Post by: mystery-ak on May 29, 2017, 11:14:09 pm
Right on schedule..8 pages

NO more polls without my permission