She must want some kind of deal with Trump to keep Barr from sending the entire party to prison over the "collusion" fiasco. :pondering:
Levin suggested the rats are using this kangaroo court to build something that resembles a case & drive public opinion, then launch the actual impeachment proceeding, if their plan comes together, when things hit a critical mass.
Unthinkable without a cooperative media on board with them.
She must want some kind of deal with Trump to keep Barr from sending the entire party to prison over the "collusion" fiasco. :pondering:
Now you're just dreaming. Nah. It is much more likely, IMO..... that Barr is delaying the release of the latest IG report to coincide with Pelosi's Impeachment endeavor. Why else would the report be delayed so many times when it should have already been out?That's an interesting idea.
She must want some kind of deal with Trump to keep Barr from sending the entire party to prison over the "collusion" fiasco. :pondering:
She knows she doesn't have the votes in the House and if they do call for a vote on the House floor...it's puts all the Dems on record just 13 months before the election.
@txradioguy
I think she has the votes, but since people are getting deposed there is no point in calling for a vote now when there is likely to be more 'yea's next week, next month, or next year. When the rats run out of people willing to testify under subpoena threat, then maybe they'll have a full congressional vote to get the holdouts.
@txradioguy
I think she has the votes, but since people are getting deposed there is no point in calling for a vote now when there is likely to be more 'yea's next week, next month, or next year. When the rats run out of people willing to testify under subpoena threat, then maybe they'll have a full congressional vote to get the holdouts.
Is that what they're doing, taking "depositions"?yes
ETA: Not to mention if she had the votes she wouldn't be running this sham inquiry like the did the Obamacare legislation when she completely shut the Republican members of the comittees out of the process.
Let's face it. Nancy Pelosi is the atypical totalitarian fascist (commie). She rules with an iron hand... forget the velvet glove.... and if she were president (shudder, heaven forbid).... she would be a tyrant writ large the likes of which would even stun her fellow Democrats.
She knows she doesn't have the votes in the House and if they do call for a vote on the House floor...it's puts all the Dems on record just 13 months before the election.The problem is that there are about a dozen Reps that don't want to be on record voting for impeachment, since they are in districts of states that went for Trump. It will put them in a precarious position for re-election.
No if she had the votes she'd have done this inquiry the right way instead of the backwards ass way it's being done now. She put the cart before the horse on this one to protect some vulnerable red state Dems that barely won last time. She calls for a formal vote and it's an even split for and agaisnt...she'll lose those 35 seats the Dems won two years ago and then some.@txradioguy
ETA: Not to mention if she had the votes she wouldn't be running this sham inquiry like the did the Obamacare legislation when she completely shut the Republican members of the comittees out of the process.
@txradioguy
There is no "right" way except your opinion. I don't hear anyone except Republicans whining about a full house vote to initiate impeachment. It didn't happen during the Johnson impeachment and the Constitution does not require it. You require it. I don't.
On February 24, 1868, three days after Johnson's dismissal of Stanton, the House of Representatives voted 126 to 47 (with 17 members not voting) in favor of a resolution to impeach the president for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Republican committee members are allowed to attend depositions and ask questions. I expect they will be allowed to call witnesses before the final vote to impeach the President.
yes
ACtually it was done that way in Johnson's impecahment
That's simply not true.
They have been barred from calling their own witnesses or sending out their own subpoenas. They have to be granted that ability from the chairman and the Dems aren't going to let that happen.
Rev Cotton Mather style depositions.
OK I'll buy that.
Rev Cotton Mather style depositions.
OK I'll buy that.
I see this more as Soviet style government proceeding. Ironic, considering that the idiot left Democrats always use the word "Constitution" if or when they think it behooves their agenda and actions. Otherwise, it's a dirty word.
My main question (I have several) is....
how long is the American (We the) people going to put up with this unbridled tyranny coming from the Democrats, America's enemy within?
As incredible as it seems, the sad fact is half of us see nothing at all wrong with whats going on.
No. Congressional Depositions where Republican committee members and Democrat committee members are allotted equal time to question the witness.
"Why don't we know who this individual is?" asked Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), appealing to reporters to dig out the identity of the whistleblower.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-impeachment-inquiry-jim-jordan-schiff-house-intelligence-ukraine-tr-20191015-gpje3i52ffeirpwj6vm667rt2m-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-impeachment-inquiry-jim-jordan-schiff-house-intelligence-ukraine-tr-20191015-gpje3i52ffeirpwj6vm667rt2m-story.html)
"Us"? You got a frog in your pocket?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Andrew_Johnson@txradioguyOn February 24, 1868, three days after Johnson's dismissal of Stanton, the House of Representatives voted 126 to 47 (with 17 members not voting) in favor of a resolution to impeach the president for high crimes and misdemeanors.
No frog, just many neighbors willing to lick the hand that feeds them.
With all due respect.....I believe every witness who has been deposed by the committee has been named. When and if the whistle blowers testify maybe we will have discovered their identity. Schiff says the whistle-blower testimony might be unnecessary.
are you merely ignorant of how these proceedings are being handled....
or are you just being dishonest?
Equal time to question the witness??? That would mean that they would actually know who the witness is, wouldn't it? *****rollingeyes*****
I believe every witness who has been deposed by the committee has been named. When and if the whistle blowers testify maybe we will have discovered their identity. Schiff says the whistle-blower testimony might be unnecessary.
I believe every witness who has been deposed by the committee has been named. When and if the whistle blowers testify maybe we will have discovered their identity. Schiff says the whistle-blower testimony might be unnecessary.
The problem is that there are about a dozen Reps that don't want to be on record voting for impeachment, since they are in districts of states that went for Trump. It will put them in a precarious position for re-election.Unclear if the 'Reps' you mean are Reps like Republicans or Reps like Representatives.
Unclear if the 'Reps' you mean are Reps like Republicans or Reps like Representatives.Democrats from the House of Representatives.
Makes a big difference.
Mario Diaz-Balart
@MarioDB
This morning, I was denied access to any and all classified documents related to impeachment. In my nearly 17 years in Congress, this is the first time that I’ve been unable to review documentation being held at the House Intel Committee. This is completely unacceptable.
She knows she doesn't have the votes in the House and if they do call for a vote on the House floor...it's puts all the Dems on record just 13 months before the election.
I don't think she has the votes either. Too many vulnerable rats in red states.
I rest my case.Finally.
Finally.
Then what are the names of the two alleged whistleblowers? The Dems have deposed both of them.@txradioguy
Smart azz. :tongue2:you're half right, and it's not about me being smart. :laugh:
you're half right, and it's not about me being smart. :laugh:
Levin suggested the rats are using this kangaroo court to build something that resembles a case & drive public opinion, then launch the actual impeachment proceeding, if their plan comes together, when things hit a critical mass.
Unthinkable without a cooperative media on board with them.
I think it's clear that time is about a year from now. The only question I have is if they'll pull the trigger in the House before or after election day. It certainly needs to be close, to drum up as much drama as possible going into Nov 2020.@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer