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Title: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 11, 2019, 10:39:05 pm
https://nypost.com/2019/10/11/trump-boasts-substantial-china-trade-deal-in-the-works/
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Washington and Beijing agreed to a “substantial” interim trade deal on Friday, averting a tariff increase on Chinese goods that had been planned for Oct. 15 and auguring an export windfall for US farmers, President Trump said Friday.

The president’s announcement came during a meeting with Chinese trade negotiators in the Oval Office.

“Lots of respect for President Xi,” Trump told reporters of China’s leader, Xi Jinping.

“So we’ve had a tremendous really, negotiation, a very complex negotiation, but something that’s going to be great for both countries,” Trump said.

Ultimately, the deal is “a great thing for world peace,” he said.

“You know there was a lot of friction between the United States and China and now it’s a love fest.”

More at link...

The President is on a roll, everything seems to be breaking his way.  That is why I am so confident that this China deal will be advantageous to US consumers, businesses, and intellectual property, and not even worse than before President started this "easy to win" trade war.  A cynical man might point out this negotiation will prevent the 35% tarriff US consumers have demanded on Chinese goods just before Christmas, but politics is the art of the possible and this negotiation just became possible.  So much winning!

Now drop your pants, bend over, and recieve the love fest.  I am overflowing with MAGA.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Neverdul on October 11, 2019, 10:45:49 pm
Did he offer to sell China some Tegridy?
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Wingnut on October 11, 2019, 10:49:47 pm



Now drop your pants, bend over, and recieve the love fest.  I am overflowing with MAGA.


Had to lol at that one!

Was it anal leakage?
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 11, 2019, 10:51:59 pm

Had to lol at that one!

Was it anal leakage?
I have more than enough for my needs
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 11, 2019, 10:58:44 pm
 "....requires that over the next two years, Chinese imports from US farms will grow to an annual rate of $40 billion to $50 billion. That’s more than double the previous  high-point of $16 to $17 billion. Currently annual US farm exports to China are at $8 billion"

If you are trying to make the case that this is not a tremendous success for the US economy...you're just showing your TDS. I was born and raised in Iowa and have a lot of friends who work in farming and agriculture...my father rain the Grain Inspection lab for much of Northwest Iowa...and this new agreement is huge for the farm industry.

This deal has major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast. It's significance really cannot be overstated...we go from a tariff situation stifling trade to large "required" increases in agricultural trade.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Bigun on October 11, 2019, 11:04:31 pm
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This deal has major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast. It's significance really cannot be overstated

Which is exactly why he hates it!
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 11, 2019, 11:23:21 pm
Which is exactly why he hates it!

Bingo.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 12, 2019, 01:29:24 am
"....requires that over the next two years, Chinese imports from US farms will grow to an annual rate of $40 billion to $50 billion. That’s more than double the previous  high-point of $16 to $17 billion. Currently annual US farm exports to China are at $8 billion"

If you are trying to make the case that this is not a tremendous success for the US economy...you're just showing your TDS.

*bouche* Oh My Word!!!   Exposed again!

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This deal has major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast.

"Major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast," you say?  Well sign me up!!!  I love major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast.

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It's significance really cannot be overstated...
  You did great. wink777
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: DCPatriot on October 12, 2019, 02:05:29 pm
" [Farmers] need to get out there and buy more land....and bigger tractors!"   ....Pres. Donald J. Trump
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 12, 2019, 02:32:55 pm
*bouche* Oh My Word!!!   Exposed again!

"Major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast," you say?  Well sign me up!!!  I love major positive implications for the President winning in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and for GOP candidates throughout the Midwest and Industrial Northeast.
  You did great. wink777

Seriously....why does it bother you so much that the President has struck what seems to be a tremendously beneficial deal for the United States with China? Its pretty clear that his standing tough on tariffs has brought them to the table...and its also pretty clear that our previous trade relationship with China was deeply detrimental to our own economic interests. So why wouldn't you be happy that a GOP President has made a trade deal that is so profoundly positive for our economy? I just don't get where you're coming from.

And yes, I expect some sarcastic or snarky answer but am actually hoping for a genuine one.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 12, 2019, 11:22:33 pm
Seriously....why does it bother you so much that the President has struck what seems to be a tremendously beneficial deal for the United States with China? Its pretty clear that his standing tough on tariffs has brought them to the table...and its also pretty clear that our previous trade relationship with China was deeply detrimental to our own economic interests. So why wouldn't you be happy that a GOP President has made a trade deal that is so profoundly positive for our economy? I just don't get where you're coming from.

And yes, I expect some sarcastic or snarky answer but am actually hoping for a genuine one.
@Mesaclone
You call it a tremendous deal because Trump told you it was tremendous.  We have no details, in fact we have no deal.  To me it pretty clear Trump is caving but I'll have to wait until a deal comes...if it comes.  Trump came out to announce the mythical progress because he needs some good news on TV.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 12, 2019, 11:38:33 pm
@Mesaclone
You call it a tremendous deal because Trump told you it was tremendous.  We have no details, in fact we have no deal.  To me it pretty clear Trump is caving but I'll have to wait until a deal comes...if it comes.  Trump came out to announce the mythical progress because he needs some good news on TV.

So your cover is that its all a lie. Which is ridiculous to anyone with even a remnant of sanity. Such a lie would be exposed almost immediately...unless of course you're arguing that the Chinese Vice Premier was also lying. He concurred that Chinese markets would be committing to the 40-50 billion dollar grain expenditure/market. Of course, Mnuchin and all the US negotiators are obviously in on this scheme of yours...talk about your aluminum foil-parent's basement-X File-Deep State conspiracy theory.

Of course, most "sane" people would stick to Occam's razor on this one rather than proclaiming a multi-nation conspiracy to fake an agreement on grain. But heck, why not pop the blue pill and go with the absurdly TDS scenario?
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Neverdul on October 12, 2019, 11:46:16 pm
@Mesaclone
You call it a tremendous deal because Trump told you it was tremendous.  We have no details, in fact we have no deal.  To me it pretty clear Trump is caving but I'll have to wait until a deal comes...if it comes.  Trump came out to announce the mythical progress because he needs some good news on TV.

Sort of like when Trump announced in 2018 that North Korea no longer poses a nuclear threat?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/trump-north-korea-nuclear-threat/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/trump-north-korea-nuclear-threat/index.html)

North Korea threatens to resume nuke, long-range missile tests

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2019/10/10/north-korea-threatens-to-resume-nuke-long-range-missile-tests/ (https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2019/10/10/north-korea-threatens-to-resume-nuke-long-range-missile-tests/)

Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Neverdul on October 12, 2019, 11:50:00 pm
Oh and this trade deal is "phase one". Who knows what phase two or phase three will bring.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5sxLapAts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5sxLapAts#)
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 02:28:21 am
So your cover is that its all a lie.

yes
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Absalom on October 13, 2019, 04:50:14 am
yes
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Indeed, as Trump would lie for the slightest bit of attention; so a reflection.
China was ruled by Autocratic Emperors for some 4000 years, followed by military rule and
since 1950, Marxism; each crushing any creative/innovative impulse as a threat to their control.
So is it any wonder the Chinese have been cheating, lying and stealing forever?????
Yet such behavior is of no consequence to our 'Fat Wallet Posse' as long as the dollars keep
flowing in their direction; since for them principal will always surmount principle,
as their bottom line is always money!!!!!

 

 
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 13, 2019, 05:33:15 am
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Indeed, as Trump would lie for the slightest bit of attention; so a reflection.
China was ruled by Autocratic Emperors for some 4000 years, followed by military rule and
since 1950, Marxism; each crushing any creative/innovative impulse as a threat to their control.
So is it any wonder the Chinese have been cheating, lying and stealing forever?????
Yet such behavior is of no consequence to our 'Fat Wallet Posse' as long as the dollars keep
flowing in their direction; since for them principal will always surmount principle,
as their bottom line is always money!!!!!

Jack Nicholson said it best:

https://youtu.be/xsZPWsVNTqo
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 07:03:02 am
Jack Nicholson said it best:

https://youtu.be/xsZPWsVNTqo (https://youtu.be/xsZPWsVNTqo)

Right back at you @Mesaclone

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo#)
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 13, 2019, 04:47:43 pm
Right back at you @Mesaclone

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo#)

So you stayed up until 3:03 AM to post the same youtube video of Nicholson that I posted...good lord, I must be REALLY living inside your head.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 06:32:35 pm
So you stayed up until 3:03 AM to post the same youtube video of Nicholson that I posted...good lord, I must be REALLY living inside your head.
@Mesaclone
Don't flatter yourself.  Trump is why I can't sleep
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Absalom on October 13, 2019, 06:54:50 pm
https://nypost.com/2019/10/11/trump-boasts-substantial-china-trade-deal-in-the-works/
More at link...
The President is on a roll, everything seems to be breaking his way.  That is why I am so confident that this China deal will be advantageous to US consumers, businesses, and intellectual property, and not even worse than before President started this "easy to win" trade war.  A cynical man might point out this negotiation will prevent the 35% tarriff US consumers have demanded on Chinese goods just before Christmas, but politics is the art of the possible and this negotiation just became possible.  So much winning!
Now drop your pants, bend over, and recieve the love fest.  I am overflowing with MAGA.
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Your sarcasm and doubt is completely appropriate.
Trump's a yapper rather than an achiever as his
"to do" list continues expanding exponentially.
Wanna bet one of his campaign slogans in 2020 will be:
"Hey you gotta re-elect me as I still have so much to do"!!!
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 07:08:54 pm
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Your sarcasm and doubt is completely appropriate.
Trump's a yapper rather than an achiever as his
"to do" list continues expanding exponentially.
Wanna bet one of his campaign slogans in 2020 will be:
"Hey you gotta re-elect me as I still have so much to do"!!!
I don't know how that works with the "promises kept" campaign they're already running.  They're running out of time to lock up crooked hitlery, repeal and replace Obamacare, drain the swamp, build the wall, eliminate the national debt, and restore our standing in the world.  It seems those campaign promises were so unimportant the Trump campaign is just gonna say "job done. promise kept."
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: DCPatriot on October 13, 2019, 07:13:24 pm
@Mesaclone
Don't flatter yourself.  Trump is why I can't sleep

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 13, 2019, 07:33:21 pm
@Mesaclone
Don't flatter yourself.  Trump is why I can't sleep

This pleases me.   88devil
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 08:03:34 pm
This pleases me.   88devil
I feel sad for you.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 13, 2019, 08:09:58 pm
I feel sad for you.

But I've no doubt you'll sleep like a baby if Elizabeth Warrens sits in the Oval Office. Your true colors just keep coming out, Once-ler.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 13, 2019, 08:17:51 pm
I feel sad for you.

Of course you do.   88devil
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 08:39:04 pm
But I've no doubt you'll sleep like a baby if Elizabeth Warrens sits in the Oval Office. Your true colors just keep coming out, Once-ler.
@Mesaclone
You think because I hate Trump, I love Warren or some other rat.  I think all the choices suck.  It's all a big stinking crap sandwich, but having endured Trump crap for 3 years I think I'm ready for a new flavor of crap.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 13, 2019, 11:03:57 pm
@Mesaclone
You think because I hate Trump, I love Warren or some other rat.  I think all the choices suck.  It's all a big stinking crap sandwich, but having endured Trump crap for 3 years I think I'm ready for a new flavor of crap.

Well, that "new flavor" is either going to be Biden or Warren...there is no one else with more than a statistically remote chance. So, as I suggest, your going for a new flavor...your words, not mine...would make you a Warren/Biden voter.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 14, 2019, 01:53:58 am
Well, that "new flavor" is either going to be Biden or Warren...there is no one else with more than a statistically remote chance. So, as I suggest, your going for a new flavor...your words, not mine...would make you a Warren/Biden voter.
@Mesaclone
If that's the ticket so be it and I'll be thankful it's not Bernie/Beto.  I know I won't be happy with Warren, but I'm not happy now.

I would be happy to vote for Pence, if Trump and was replaced with Pence, but I don't expect that to happen.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 14, 2019, 02:26:25 pm
@Mesaclone
If that's the ticket so be it and I'll be thankful it's not Bernie/Beto.  I know I won't be happy with Warren, but I'm not happy now.

I would be happy to vote for Pence, if Trump and was replaced with Pence, but I don't expect that to happen.

So, quite literally, you're a Warren voter posting on a GOP website. And I'm fine with that as long as there's no pretense of being a conservative...because no sane conservative ever born could vote for Warren.

It takes courage to come out as a Warren supporter, kudos, and let's let that shape future discussions here on the board. Perhaps put a Warren logo in your signature so folks know where you're coming from?
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 14, 2019, 02:43:24 pm
So, quite literally, you're a Warren voter posting on a GOP website. And I'm fine with that as long as there's no pretense of being a conservative...because no sane conservative ever born could vote for Warren.

There is only one person here pretending to be conservative.  If you recall all the way back to yesterday, about 18 hours ago I told you this:
@Mesaclone
As of November 2016 I stopped being a Republican, and if President Trump can actually be seen as conservative, then I ain't one of those either.  If conservative philosophy is wall, tariffs, national debt, and cozying up with muslim and communist dictators you can keep it.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,377713.msg2074555.html#msg2074555 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,377713.msg2074555.html#msg2074555)

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It takes courage to come out as a Warren supporter, kudos, and let's let that shape future discussions here on the board. Perhaps put a Warren logo in your signature so folks know where you're coming from?
I'm not a Warren supporter.  I'm a Trump hater.  Do you think a Warren logo will help you remember the discussion we had 18 hours earlier?  I don't.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Night Hides Not on October 14, 2019, 05:39:37 pm
So, quite literally, you're a Warren voter posting on a GOP website. And I'm fine with that as long as there's no pretense of being a conservative...because no sane conservative ever born could vote for Warren.

It takes courage to come out as a Warren supporter, kudos, and let's let that shape future discussions here on the board. Perhaps put a Warren logo in your signature so folks know where you're coming from?

@Once-Ler
@Mesaclone

Not that Once-Ler needs my help, but I'm pointing out a typical Trump tactic. You can't disagree with Trump without being called a Cruz bot, or now, a voter for Warren.

In reviewing Once-Ler's posts, I have not seen one scintilla of evidence that Once-Ler ever said there'd be a vote for Warren. To the contrary.

Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Applewood on October 14, 2019, 06:01:16 pm
Has anyone seen an actual signed agreement between the two countries? 

If I don't see a signed agreement, then I'm not going to trust Trump when he says there is one. 
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: DCPatriot on October 14, 2019, 06:06:06 pm
Has anyone seen an actual signed agreement between the two countries? 

If I don't see a signed agreement, then I'm not going to trust Trump when he says there is one.

You mean like how you trust the Ukraine phone call transcript?     :laugh: 
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Applewood on October 14, 2019, 06:12:30 pm
You mean like how you trust the Ukraine phone call transcript?     :laugh:

I don't know about that.  But I seem to recall Trump at least once saying there was an agreement or understanding with North Korea, only to have them test and launch more rockets.

Again, unless I see a signed agreement, I'm not going t believe there is a deal or that we are even close to a deal with China. 
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: skeeter on October 14, 2019, 06:15:46 pm
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You mean like how you trust the Ukraine phone call transcript?     :laugh:

When the agreement is made public they’ll be back to tell us Trump lied - it isn’t ‘substantial’.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: truth_seeker on October 14, 2019, 07:22:04 pm
So you stayed up until 3:03 AM to post the same youtube video of Nicholson that I posted...good lord, I must be REALLY living inside your head.

A look inside a TDS  mind. @Mesaclone
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 14, 2019, 07:25:08 pm
@Once-Ler
@Mesaclone

Not that Once-Ler needs my help, but I'm pointing out a typical Trump tactic. You can't disagree with Trump without being called a Cruz bot, or now, a voter for Warren.

In reviewing Once-Ler's posts, I have not seen one scintilla of evidence that Once-Ler ever said there'd be a vote for Warren. To the contrary.

Clearly, your "reviewing" skills are inept as you missed the exchange in which Once-ler EXPLICITLY agrees that he will vote for Warren/Biden in a matchup against President Trump...the very definition of a Warren voter/supporter.



Mesaclone: So, as I suggest, your going for a new flavor...your words, not mine...would make you a Warren/Biden voter.
Once-ler: If that's the ticket so be it and I'll be thankful it's not Bernie/Beto.

Again, Once-ler is the one stating openly that he will be voting for Warren...in a matchup with the President. Its not me claiming he will do so, its Once-ler making the claim. So if you have an issue with my simply agreeing with Once-ler's self declaration, take it up with him.
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Applewood on October 14, 2019, 07:35:12 pm
I guess some people here don't recognize sarcasm 
Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 14, 2019, 07:39:48 pm
A look inside a TDS  mind. @Mesaclone

That's a well I'm not sure I want to gaze too deeply into...that way lies madness!

Title: Re: Trump announces ‘substantial’ China trade deal in the works
Post by: Mesaclone on October 14, 2019, 07:40:34 pm
I guess some people here don't recognize sarcasm

Guess again.