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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Frank Cannon on September 14, 2016, 01:24:10 pm
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http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-unveils-child-care-policies
Donald Trump unveiled several policy proposals for lowering child-care costs on Tuesday, which were partially influenced by his daughter, Ivanka Trump.
Among the plans is a scheme to give new moms six weeks of paid maternity leave, according to The Washington Post.
The GOP nominee's daughter appeared on Good Morning America Wednesday to declare their child-care plan is "long overdue" in the United States.
Ivanka Trump also took aim at her father's opponent Hillary Clinton – saying that despite decades in public office the Clintons have failed to enact better childcare policies.
Clinton has outlined a plan including longer family leave and paternity leave after a new baby.
"Respectfully, Clinton has been around for decades and there's no policy benefiting either mothers or fathers in terms of paid leave," Ivanka Trump stated.
She continued, "Certainly she had opportunity to have a concept like that in the past. We have not been in public office for the last several decades and she has, so she could have instituted some of those policies in that role and has not done so."
Ivanka also highlighted the fact that the Trump Organization has paid maternity leave as well as adoption leave. Her own company gives new mothers eight weeks paid leave, a benefit she claimed only 10 percent of American businesses offer.
In a speech delivered in Aston, Pennsylvania, Trump proposed the maternity leave policy to mothers who don't already receive leave from their employer.
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Another severely Conservative policy from Donny and his ultra Left campaign advisor Ivanka.
Can any Trump supporters explain to me why this is even remotely good for the country? How is this affordable? Why are you supporting a plank that was in the Lib Lefts platform for decades?
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The kid has bigger hands.
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Just heard a snippet on the radio that Trump says Hitlary's plan doesn't go far enough. Looks like the Trumpettes are very comfortable being to the LEFT of her on big govt' policies........because they are all Marxists shills.
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The GOP nominee's daughter appeared on Good Morning America Wednesday to declare their child-care plan is "long overdue" in the United States.
Ivanka Trump also took aim at her father's opponent Hillary Clinton – saying that despite decades in public office the Clintons have failed to enact better childcare policies.
This is rolling-on-the-floor laughable. The Clintons and Democrats have failed to enact childcare policies because they have been stopped by Republican opposition, which has long held that the government has no business being involved in child care!!
Now, we have this big-busted Democrat lecturing the country about how cruel we've been in the past and had better get on board the Trump entitlement train!!!
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This is rolling-on-the-floor laughable. The Clintons and Democrats have failed to enact childcare policies because they have been stopped by Republican opposition, which has long held that the government has no business being involved in child care!!
Now, we have this big-busted Democrat lecturing the country about how cruel we've been in the past and had better get on board the Trump entitlement train!!!
:thumbsup:
Yep. Trump will make all those Democrat plans come true!
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This is rolling-on-the-floor laughable. The Clintons and Democrats have failed to enact childcare policies because they have been stopped by Republican opposition, which has long held that the government has no business being involved in child care!!
Now, we have this big-busted Democrat lecturing the country about how cruel we've been in the past and had better get on board the Trump entitlement train!!!
So to keep score:
Thanks to Donny the GOP NOW supports global warming, Amnesty, free Child care.
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There's an overload of conservative virtue signalling on this thread.
Cute babies though... ^-^
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We're all Democrats now.
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Don't expect Trumpettes to ever feel foolish for supporting him though. He'll do everything the left wants and Trumpettes will still claim he's...
...more conservative than Reagan...
...enacting a conservative agenda...
...making America great...
...oh, and... JUDGES!
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There's an overload of conservative virtue signalling on this thread.
Cute babies though... ^-^
Are you serious? Opposition to the Democratic platforms of paid maternity leave and global warming is now "virtue signaling?"
@Longmire, how uncomfortable is it to support Trump at this point? Because I don't believe for one second that it isn't. Look at how far left you have to swing to keep justifying Donald's liberalism.
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There's an overload of conservative virtue signalling on this thread.
Cute babies though... ^-^
@Longmire
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Donald Trump (D) Democrat Nominee for President.
Pick your Stiff this November
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So to keep score:
Thanks to Donny the GOP NOW supports global warming, Amnesty, free Child care.
Its just Trump "shaken' things up" in Washington.
Only he can do it, doncha know.
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Another severely Conservative policy from Donny and his ultra Left campaign advisor Ivanka. Can any Trump supporters explain to me why this is even remotely good for the country? How is this affordable? Why are you supporting a plank that was in the Lib Lefts platform for decades?
@Frank Cannon
@CatherineofAragon
I think this is wonderful. Surely, Trump and Ivanka, are all inclusive in this child care program, which means I can get government money to pay me back for raising two children and paying for child care beginning 65 years ago. If Trump and Ivanka don't pay me back, they are racist. 888high58888
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Someone with the time and skills... please Photoshop the back of His Orangeness' head into this meme.
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@Longmire, how uncomfortable is it to support Trump at this point?
@CatherineofAragon
Not as uncomfortable as I know it is for you to actively oppose him, knowing that Coffin Hillary is the alternative.
Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left. :pondering:
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Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left.
@Longmire I do enjoy your insight and contributions here, you are one of just a few Trumpsters/Trumpettes I can converse with without really getting very sad for my Country. That being said, the above dribble is just beyond my comprehension and it's to early to get stoned.
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@Frank Cannon
@CatherineofAragon
I think this is wonderful. Surely, Trump and Ivanka, are all inclusive in this child care program, which means I can get government money to pay me back for raising two children and paying for child care beginning 65 years ago. If Trump and Ivanka don't pay me back, they are racist. 888high58888
@Victoria33
Don't forget, this Democrat is the one who's going to appoint conservative judges.
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@CatherineofAragon
Not as uncomfortable as I know it is for you to actively oppose him, knowing that Coffin Hillary is the alternative.
Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left. :pondering:
An admission that Trump has no political core, that he will do or so anything as long as he WINS.
Trump is the issue, not Hillary, although it's becoming more and more difficult to distinguish between them.
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@corbe Try thinking of Trump as a bank robber, he's going to go where the votes are.
Something also tells me there's psychographic logic behind this plan...
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@corbe Try thinking of Trump as a bank robber, he's going to go where the votes are.
Something also tells me there's psychographic logic behind this plan...
Perfect analogy, since Trump makes it a practice to stiff contractors and employees.
There is no "logic" behind this plan. Ivanka, the Democrat, wants it, and daddy will give it to her.
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There's an overload of conservative virtue signalling on this thread.
Cute babies though... ^-^
So quit doing it. ^-^
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@CatherineofAragon
Not as uncomfortable as I know it is for you to actively oppose him, knowing that Coffin Hillary is the alternative.
Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left. :pondering:
@Longmire
"Not as" uncomfortable? Thank you for having the honesty to admit it. Most Trump supporters won't do that.
Why on earth would he have more support from the right for his leftist positions? It's obvious, isn't it? Hillary and her friend/donor/defender are no different.
For the record, it's like breathing good, sweet, fresh air to oppose Trump. It's fantastic. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Just heard a snippet on the radio that Trump says Hitlary's plan doesn't go far enough. Looks like the Trumpettes are very comfortable being to the LEFT of her on big govt' policies........because they are all Marxists shills.
It's rarely a good idea to rely on "snippets" @Frank Cannon. It's never good for your blood pressure and rarely gives you the facts.
Here are facts:
Donald J. Trump’s Plan Is More Complete Than Hillary Clinton’s Plan
Point One:
Hillary Clinton does not have a plan to provide relief to most
Americans faced with high child care costs. She claims she wants to cap a
family’s child care expense at 10 percent of income, but provides no details.
The Trump plan would provide relief to every working- and middle-income
earner who has child care expenses. For example, the Trump plan would
reduce taxes by $840 per year a family for earning $70,000 per year in the 12
percent tax bracket with $7,000 in child care expenses; Hillary Clinton’s plan
would provide no relief to this family.
Point Two:
Hillary Clinton prefers institutional child care that does not meet
the needs of workers in rural areas or who have schedules that require
working on a night shift or on call. The Trump plan would give states the
flexibility to establish standards that fit the needs of state residents without
compromising quality.
Point Three:
Hillary Clinton would force businesses to pay for 12 weeks of
fully-paid family leave at their expense. The Trump plan proposes 6 weeks of
partial pay through the existing Unemployment Insurance system, fully paid
for within the program.
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/CHILD_CARE_FACT_SHEET.pdf
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Only a leftist would think this is a good idea.
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Another severely Conservative policy from Donny and his ultra Left campaign advisor Ivanka.
Can any Trump supporters explain to me why this is even remotely good for the country? How is this affordable? Why are you supporting a plank that was in the Lib Lefts platform for decades?
First thought on reading the thread title: "Was he contagious? No, wait, that was Hillary."
Second thought on reading the thread title: "Did he eat it?"
OK, enough comedy. Serious thought:
If you propose this kind of program, you are not in any way, shape, or form, a "Big Government is the problem" kind of Conservative. Instead, if you propose, or support, this kind of program, then you are a "Big Government can solve all of life's problems" kind of Socialist Leftist. Full stop, no argument, that's all.
All of the Trumpists will support it of course, because they're ok with Big Government just so long as "their guy" is in charge of it. Or in other words, the only principle that Trumpists consistently adhere to: It's OK when our guy does it!
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It's rarely a good idea to rely on "snippets" @Frank Cannon. It's never good for your blood pressure and rarely gives you the facts.
Here are facts:
Okay, but none of the answers the nuts and bolts of the real deal.
This is not in the Constitution and thereby it becomes a 10th amendment issue.
Period.
Anything outside of this is a liberal position.
Whether it is Trump's plan, Clinton's plan, Groucho Marx's plan, or Marvin the Martian's plan, it is government overreach, and a liberal position.
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It's hilarious watching the Trump camp go through pretzel gymnastics in order to justify his leftist-Democrat-like liberal policies....ever morphing to the left as his campaign "progresses".
What they fail to gleen is....many folks will just vote for the one with the MOST liberal stance (ie Hillary) rather than the reverse. They will figure, what the hell, might as well. Since most folks have already figured out what they will get with Hillary. With Trump it's an "anything goes" and up in the air thing. And the "unknown factor" is a thing to be feared in this era of uncertainty. (better the devil you know)
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The orange Jesus has got it under control. From birthin baby's to building a wall. Praise the lord and pass the free stuff.
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It's hilarious watching the Trump camp go through pretzel gymnastics in order to justify his leftist-Democrat-like liberal policies....ever morphing to the left as his campaign "progresses".
I think it's safe to say that, as this election cycle has progressed, the once-conservative Trumpsters have blown past the pretzel stage to full-blown funnel-cake logic. It's been an interesting process to observe.
I have to give Trump credit for understanding that he would be able to carry people along as he has done, separating them for the moorings of their "conservative convictions" by wooing them with sweet nothin's until which time he would start to reveal his big government plans for the nation. They're already so emotionally invested in him, where are they gonna go??
Could it be that we NeverTrumpers are the ones Trump can shoot on 5th Avenue and have the Trumpsters cheer?
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It's rarely a good idea to rely on "snippets" @Frank Cannon. It's never good for your blood pressure and rarely gives you the facts.
Here are facts:
Have I told you lately. ' You just ain't right in the head?
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It's rarely a good idea to rely on "snippets" @Frank Cannon. It's never good for your blood pressure and rarely gives you the facts.
Here are facts:
Well hell. That's much better. I see his massive give a way to do this is far more responsible than Hitlary's. That makes it so much better to push this program that no one was asking for except for Liberal elites.
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. They're already so emotionally invested in him, where are they gonna go??
This sums up what we are seeing here by his dedicated supporters. It isn't easy giving up something that you have so much emotion invested in. Think of it as a woman who has been married for a long time to a man that has beat her. The justifications she gives for staying with her abuser. They sound illogical to everyone else, but for her, they make sense
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I was listening to Mark Levin on the way home and he made an excellent point: how can we claim to love our children and grandchildren and those yet to be born if we are saddling them with a $17 billion debt and allow to pass yet another law that will accelerate the decrease of their chances for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness by burdening them with yet more intrusive Federal legislation?
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Donald J. Trump’s Plan Is More Complete Than Hillary Clinton’s Plan
Point One:
Hillary Clinton does not have a plan to provide relief to most
Americans faced with high child care costs. She claims she wants to cap a
family’s child care expense at 10 percent of income, but provides no details.
The Trump plan would provide relief to every working- and middle-income
earner who has child care expenses. For example, the Trump plan would
reduce taxes by $840 per year a family for earning $70,000 per year in the 12
percent tax bracket with $7,000 in child care expenses; Hillary Clinton’s plan
would provide no relief to this family.
Point Two:
Hillary Clinton prefers institutional child care that does not meet
the needs of workers in rural areas or who have schedules that require
working on a night shift or on call. The Trump plan would give states the
flexibility to establish standards that fit the needs of state residents without
compromising quality.
Point Three:
Hillary Clinton would force businesses to pay for 12 weeks of
fully-paid family leave at their expense. The Trump plan proposes 6 weeks of
partial pay through the existing Unemployment Insurance system, fully paid
for within the program.
Of course it's more complete. More nanny state giveaways to the wealthy, primarily, though it does something for the middle class and gives direct cash payments to those who pay no taxes.
Trumpkins are trying to pass this off as self-financing but, of course, that's pure bullshit. It will cost, at a minimum, $20 billion a year and, like every other entitlement, will only grow.
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This sums up what we are seeing here by his dedicated supporters. It isn't easy giving up something that you have so much emotion invested in. Think of it as a woman who has been married for a long time to a man that has beat her. The justifications she gives for staying with her abuser. They sound illogical to everyone else, but for her, they make sense
Perfect analogy. Note my tagline.
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It's rarely a good idea to rely on "snippets" @Frank Cannon. It's never good for your blood pressure and rarely gives you the facts.
Here are facts:
Gosh RIV, it does appear that the snippet was right. On Donny's own website he says that his plan is more complete. For people slow on the uptake, it means it does go further than Hitlary's....
Donald J. Trump’s Plan Is More Complete Than Hillary Clinton’s Plan
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/CHILD_CARE_FACT_SHEET.pdf
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That's about as creepy as it gets.
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@CatherineofAragon
Not as uncomfortable as I know it is for you to actively oppose him, knowing that Coffin Hillary is the alternative.
Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left. :pondering:
How can you go there about support from the right and not break out laughing? The Donald and all his sTrumpettes told us from the beginning that we weren't needed, weren't wanted, called us all sorts of vile things and you can say "Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left." and actually expect to taken seriously? It is to laugh! Trump goes looking for support from the left because that's his comfort zone, plain and simple.
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Nothing there. ???
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Only a leftist would think this is a good idea.
I would say with absolute certainty at this point I would rather that Hillary wins. Four years of Hillary and maybe we can return to Conservatism. If Trump wins there is absolutely no chance of ever returning.
"I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts."
-Ronald Reagan
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When I think of Trump holding a baby, I always picture that scene with Martin Sheen in the movie The Dead Zone where the Greg Stillson character grabs a baby to shield himself from an assassin.
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Well, props to Donny. One prop in the right arm, one prop in the left arm...
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This sums up what we are seeing here by his dedicated supporters. It isn't easy giving up something that you have so much emotion invested in. Think of it as a woman who has been married for a long time to a man that has beat her. The justifications she gives for staying with her abuser. They sound illogical to everyone else, but for her, they make sense
Only they don't have a 'honeymoon phase' coming...just another thrashing.
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That's about as creepy as it gets.
very true
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This is rolling-on-the-floor laughable. The Clintons and Democrats have failed to enact childcare policies because they have been stopped by Republican opposition, which has long held that the government has no business being involved in child care!!
Now, we have this big-busted Democrat lecturing the country about how cruel we've been in the past and had better get on board the Trump entitlement train!!!
But wait! there is more! With a government program, it is likely only government approved babysitters will be the ones who can be reimbursed or funded... So those responsible teenagers who used to babysit will be out of a job... unless they can give all the right government answers on a test....one more thing they can't do, one more situation where responsibility and maturity won't be rewarded...so, like, why botherrr?
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This sums up what we are seeing here by his dedicated supporters. It isn't easy giving up something that you have so much emotion invested in. Think of it as a woman who has been married for a long time to a man that has beat her. The justifications she gives for staying with her abuser. They sound illogical to everyone else, but for her, they make sense
I could say that another way. It's easy to give up things you had no real vested interest in, issues you were never really serious about and to you not worth fighting for. Like limited government, limiting government subsidies, battling global warming alarmist, etc. Fight's now worth giving up on it seems.
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But wait! there is more! With a government program, it is likely only government approved babysitters will be the ones who can be reimbursed or funded... So those responsible teenagers who used to babysit will be out of a job... unless they can give all the right government answers on a test....one more thing they can't do, one more situation where responsibility and maturity won't be rewarded...so, like, why botherrr?
888high58888 Take away responsibility and initiative for people to do for themselves. Things like babysitting, mowing lawns, shoveling driveways, newspaper routes, washing/detailing cars, etc., all used to teach teens responsibility. In my area, lawncare, snow shoveling, etc., are now adult owned businesses and hire illegals or those who can't find other jobs for various reasons. The latest I've heard is the push for 'automated' fast food restaurants ... yet another instance where we'll put people (not just teens) out of work.
This fantasy that Trump will be good for the economy needs to end; he's pushing to make himself money and is clearly heading in the LIBERAL direction of expanding government. Also this notion that he's going to bring manufacturing jobs back is another Trumpette fantasy. You can cut corporate taxes and open the door for manufacturing jobs here, but those manufacturers who have left the good ole U.S.A. long ago because it was cheaper to do business abroad aren't going to go through the cost to bring their operations back here; they still get tax breaks overseas and the cost to move their operations back here would be astronomical.
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@CatherineofAragon
Not as uncomfortable as I know it is for you to actively oppose him, knowing that Coffin Hillary is the alternative.
Perhaps if Trump had more support on the right he wouldn't have to go looking for it on the left. :pondering:
So it's my fault for being conservative that Trump isn't more conservative. Boy, you are as twisted as a pretzel maker playing twister.
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So it's my fault for being conservative that Trump isn't more conservative. Boy, you are as twisted as a pretzel maker playing twister.
Ah, the "Unknown Pretzel".
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But wait! there is more! With a government program, it is likely only government approved babysitters will be the ones who can be reimbursed or funded... So those responsible teenagers who used to babysit will be out of a job... unless they can give all the right government answers on a test....one more thing they can't do, one more situation where responsibility and maturity won't be rewarded...so, like, why botherrr?
@Smokin Joe
I see another UNION Giveaway similar to the Health Care fiasco in Minnesota, SEIU.
We know the Unions are still MOBBED UP and Trump has Experience with NY Mob Families (Concrete, anyone?}