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Title: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: libertybele on May 17, 2020, 01:29:04 am
Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home

President Trump signed an executive order Thursday designed to facilitate the domestic production of strategic supplies needed to deal with the coronavirus pandemic. He had strong words for “globalists” who he said had put global interests ahead of those of the United States.

“We had a bunch of globalists,” Trump said during a visit to an Allentown, Pa.-based medical equipment distributor, Owens and Minor Inc. “They didn’t know what the hell they were doing.”

“My goal is to produce everything America needs for ourselves and then export to the world, and that includes medicines,” the president said. “It’s very important,” he continued, saying the U.S. has been “too reliant on other countries.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/swiping-globalists-trump-vows-bring-medicine-and-other (https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/swiping-globalists-trump-vows-bring-medicine-and-other)
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 17, 2020, 07:50:49 am
Git 'er done!
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 08:21:42 am
That's right. I can get behind him on this one.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: verga on May 17, 2020, 11:52:02 am
That's right. I can get behind him on this one.
Everyone should be behind him on this one.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 11:54:46 am
Everyone should be behind him on this one.

Sure, but it depends upon how it's done.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: EdinVA on May 17, 2020, 12:04:43 pm
The only way to bring it back 'legally" is thru tariffs and tax incentives... prepare for the onslaught of criticisms...
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 12:12:05 pm
The only way to bring it back 'legally" is thru tariffs and tax incentives... prepare for the onslaught of criticisms...

Tariffs tip the field. Won't back that at all.
It is inherently against competition, creating a protected class.

But doing all that can be done to get government out of the way... Tax incentive. Sure. Labor regulation restructuring... sure. lower safety and insurance regulations, The cost of inventory, the cost of new construction, environmental impact bullcrap, and etc, etc, etc. YES.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: EdinVA on May 17, 2020, 01:08:35 pm
Tariffs tip the field. Won't back that at all.
It is inherently against competition, creating a protected class.

But doing all that can be done to get government out of the way... Tax incentive. Sure. Labor regulation restructuring... sure. lower safety and insurance regulations, The cost of inventory, the cost of new construction, environmental impact bullcrap, and etc, etc, etc. YES.
@roamer_1
We already have a protected class, non-american companies.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 01:12:04 pm
@roamer_1
We already have a protected class, non-american companies.

@EdinVA

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: EdinVA on May 17, 2020, 01:15:35 pm
@EdinVA

Two wrongs don't make a right.
@roamer_1
Understand and agree, but we have to try and undo 50 years of abuse quickly and we cannot do that timidly or we will never get where we need to be before the libs detour us again.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 01:24:28 pm
@roamer_1
Understand and agree, but we have to try and undo 50 years of abuse quickly and we cannot do that timidly or we will never get where we need to be before the libs detour us again.

@EdinVA

I get where you are coming from, but creating MORE protectionism will only exacerbate the problem.
The solution would be LESS protectionism.

Look at it like the healthcare dilemma. The answer to giant health costs is not and was not governmental intervention. Not only is that predictable, but now proven.

The thing to do is knock out the props that are artificially holding the market up... Not make more props.


Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 17, 2020, 01:33:46 pm
@EdinVA

I get where you are coming from, but creating MORE protectionism will only exacerbate the problem.
The solution would be LESS protectionism.

Maybe you should finish reading the chapter before you post. 

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 02:00:25 pm
Maybe you should finish reading the chapter before you post. 

Just sayin'

What 'chapter' is that?
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: EdinVA on May 17, 2020, 02:31:42 pm
@EdinVA

I get where you are coming from, but creating MORE protectionism will only exacerbate the problem.
The solution would be LESS protectionism.

Look at it like the healthcare dilemma. The answer to giant health costs is not and was not governmental intervention. Not only is that predictable, but now proven.

The thing to do is knock out the props that are artificially holding the market up... Not make more props.
@roamer_1
The problem with healthcare is there is NO competition just unofficial price fixing and the insurance is compelled to pay no matter what.
Stockholders are demanding higher and higher dividends so they are the only real hope to control medical costs under control if they will push on the companies they own to get real, which is not going to happen.


Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: roamer_1 on May 17, 2020, 02:43:12 pm
@roamer_1
The problem with healthcare is there is NO competition just unofficial price fixing and the insurance is compelled to pay no matter what.

@EdinVA
And the insurance consortiums own the medical facilities... And round and round it goes...

Quote
Stockholders are demanding higher and higher dividends so they are the only real hope to control medical costs under control if they will push on the companies they own to get real, which is not going to happen.

And uncle nanny gets their rake off the top, even without owning healthcare... with regulations, inspections, and licensing.

So how do you knock out the props?
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 17, 2020, 09:39:48 pm
I can't take him seriously until he gets rid of Fauci and Birx.  They are globalists.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 17, 2020, 09:53:36 pm
I can't take him seriously until he gets rid of Fauci and Birx.  They are globalists.
He has to have a reason the public will swallow, unfortunately, otherwise, he'll be shown as having fired the 'saviour doctors in a time the 'murcan pipple neeeded them'.

And those are the optics which would be applied by the MSM, ad nauseum.

But the more they are there, the more contradictions, the more people are questioning what is going on, especially when there has been one or two (or even) no cases in their county, and the ones who were sick are all better.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 17, 2020, 10:07:20 pm
He has to have a reason the public will swallow, unfortunately, otherwise, he'll be shown as having fired the 'saviour doctors in a time the 'murcan pipple neeeded them'.

And those are the optics which would be applied by the MSM, ad nauseum.

But the more they are there, the more contradictions, the more people are questioning what is going on, especially when there has been one or two (or even) no cases in their county, and the ones who were sick are all better.


Doesn't seem to bother him to fire lots of people.  It was hilarious to watch the presser with Fauci and Brix masked up and everyone else bare faced.  If Trump was smart he would fire her.  And distance himself from the globalists they are connected to.

Then he should come completely clean on the damage all of this has done to this country.  And admit that we shouldn't have shut down the country.  Shouldn't have approved all that spending too.  Refuse to sign any more legislation approving trillion dollar COVID relief.  Which would force states to get back to business.  If he can allow migrants to come from infected Mexico to pick our produce we can all go back to work.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 17, 2020, 10:10:47 pm
Doesn't seem to bother him to fire lots of people.  It was hilarious to watch the presser with Fauci and Brix masked up and everyone else bare faced.  If Trump was smart he would fire her.  And distance himself from the globalists they are connected to.
Yes, but timing is important, too. If he can't get the people to understand why in one tweet, it's politically risky. In the meantime, people are seeing the farce.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: libertybele on May 17, 2020, 10:36:51 pm
Yes, but timing is important, too. If he can't get the people to understand why in one tweet, it's politically risky. In the meantime, people are seeing the farce.

Dr. Birx never bothered me, and I haven't watched one of the pressers in quite awhile, but Fauci seem like a weasel from the beginning and when they started making dolls in his image, I knew that the left loved him; definitely never a good sign. IMHO he tried several times to berate Trump -- and I thought then he needed to go.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 17, 2020, 11:00:05 pm
Dr. Birx never bothered me, and I haven't watched one of the pressers in quite awhile, but Fauci seem like a weasel from the beginning and when they started making dolls in his image, I knew that the left loved him; definitely never a good sign. IMHO he tried several times to berate Trump -- and I thought then he needed to go.

I think if Trump keeps those two it can only hurt him.  Not like I am that concerned with that.  You know that.  I don't care for Trump or Biden.  Everyone knows, but I am concerned with taking their advice and what it is doing to the nation.  That is what concerns me.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: libertybele on May 17, 2020, 11:20:47 pm
I think if Trump keeps those two it can only hurt him.  Not like I am that concerned with that.  You know that.  I don't care for Trump or Biden.  Everyone knows, but I am concerned with taking their advice and what it is doing to the nation.  That is what concerns me.

I would love to know how Trump decided upon the two of them in the first place. 
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 17, 2020, 11:43:44 pm
Dr. Birx never bothered me, and I haven't watched one of the pressers in quite awhile, but Fauci seem like a weasel from the beginning and when they started making dolls in his image, I knew that the left loved him; definitely never a good sign. IMHO he tried several times to berate Trump -- and I thought then he needed to go.
Either that or people were looking for pincushions...
Birx is the stealth globalist of the two.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 17, 2020, 11:50:00 pm
I would love to know how Trump decided upon the two of them in the first place.
If you aren't familliar with a topic, in his position you'd call in the 'experts'.

Fauci had been the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for a while, since 1984, which means he's fairly highly ranked and by virtue of that position, an "expert".

Birx had served under Obama as United States Global AIDS Coordinator for Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump since 2014, which made her response coordinator material.

Keep in mind that science isn't supposed to play politics or have an agenda, but provide the right answers, as best we know, without prejudice. Obviously, that isn't what is going on, any more than the Climate Alarmists are neutral.

Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: libertybele on May 17, 2020, 11:56:56 pm
If you aren't familliar with a topic, in his position you'd call in the 'experts'.

Fauci had been the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for a while, since 1984, which means he's fairly highly ranked and by virtue of that position, an "expert".

Birx had served under Obama as United States Global AIDS Coordinator for Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump since 2014, which made her response coordinator material.

Keep in mind that science isn't supposed to play politics or have an agenda, but provide the right answers, as best we know, without prejudice. Obviously, that isn't what is going on, any more than the Climate Alarmists are neutral.

Yes, you call in the experts and he has done so in the past; it seems he doesn't investigate who they've worked under or their past connections to the left.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 18, 2020, 12:04:24 am
Yes, you call in the experts and he has done so in the past; it seems he doesn't investigate who they've worked under or their past connections to the left.
But then you are back to the belief that some things are sacrosanct from politics, and the country comes first.
Who knew top doctors might sell us out over a profit opportunity and advise that tens of millions of Americans suffer and all sorts of anti-constitutional policies would be endorsed or insisted upon unnecessarily?

Besides, anyone who has been 'at it' any length of time will have served under a number of administrations in a Government Job, and should be more involved in doing their job for the Country rather than undermining America in favor of any political party or paying concern.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: libertybele on May 18, 2020, 12:09:19 am
But then you are back to the belief that some things are sacrosanct from politics, and the country comes first.
Who knew top doctors might sell us out over a profit opportunity and advise that tens of millions of Americans suffer and all sorts of anti-constitutional policies would be endorsed or insisted upon unnecessarily?

Besides, anyone who has been 'at it' any length of time will have served under a number of administrations in a Government Job, and should be more involved in doing their job for the Country rather than undermining America in favor of any political party or paying concern.

Yes, true.  I believe Fauci was also more interested in his research rather than in his concern about the risk of a pandemic.
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 18, 2020, 12:25:08 am
Yes, true.  I believe Fauci was also more interested in his research rather than in his concern about the risk of a pandemic.
Likely figured they'd have the vaccine before the bug got out. :shrug:
Title: Re: Swiping 'Globalists,' Trump Vows to Bring Medicine and Other Supply Chains Back Home
Post by: corbe on May 18, 2020, 12:34:14 am
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We are talking about the guy who hired this shallow space, 3 times, right?   :shrug: