The Briefing Room
General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Topic started by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2013, 02:51:20 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36OT6TsHOw
Ray Donovan - Showtime Series
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I'm hooked!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCjXhhJ7avk
Free Episode!
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I've been watching it. It's intriguing but I am not "hooked" yet. I like the Jon Voight character and I like the brother with the bad arm and hand. The anti-hero is a little too anti and not enough hero for my taste, at least up to this point.
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I've been watching it. It's intriguing but I am not "hooked" yet. I like the Jon Voight character and I like the brother with the bad arm and hand. The anti-hero is a little too anti and not enough hero for my taste, at least up to this point.
I'm re-watching this right now.....at the 30 minute mark where he finds out "he's out!".
Love the casting throughout! This is going to be the biggest winner since Sopranos, IMO.
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I finally watched all the episodes. It's dark, I think darker than Soprano's. I live Jon Voight, but his character in this series is a real SOB.... which only goes to show what a good actor he is. Liev Schreiber is interesting... sort of a good/bad guy... oh and I think the actress playing his wife is too homely to be his wife in the series.
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WOW! Great episode tonight!
Is Ray planning on making new copies of pages 1 and 2 of the contract he gave her on his son...the rapper?
Because he took the blood stained contract with him...and I believe page 3 with the signature is clean.
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oh and I think the actress playing his wife is too homely to be his wife in the series.
They met in high school.
Look at Ray's background. Wouldn't you want to get out of that environment? So 'you' marry your high school sweetheart.
And after tonight's episode....look at his own two children! YIKES!!
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They met in high school.
Look at Ray's background. Wouldn't you want to get out of that environment? So 'you' marry your high school sweetheart.
And after tonight's episode....look at his own two children! YIKES!!
Yep the third page is clean... watching it right now. That black kid is BIG TROUBLE..
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ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???
Ray Donovan is arguably, the best mini-series cable show since The Sopranos.
Housewarming....the episode this weekend, makes me forget Tony completely.
Rap....do you still think Ray's wife is too homely for the job? LOL!
I love Elliott Gould as Ezra Goodman.....he should win an award for this role.
Love the way he protected the athlete from another paternity suit...hands on! LOL!
Dash Mihok as Bunchy Donovan was fantastic! WOW!
And Voight is in a league by himself.
Love the line as he welcomed his Ray's two kids arriving outside...."Hey! I see you got a butler and all!"
"It's my car!"
"But you're still black, ain't ya?"
I don't like Mickey Donovan.
episode plays tonight at 11PM on SHOWTIME.
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ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???
Ray Donovan is arguably, the best mini-series cable show since The Sopranos.
Housewarming....the episode this weekend, makes me forget Tony completely.
Rap....do you still think Ray's wife is too homely for the job? LOL!
I love Elliott Gould as Ezra Goodman.....he should win an award for this role.
Love the way he protected the athlete from another paternity suit...hands on! LOL!
Dash Mihok as Bunchy Donovan was fantastic! WOW!
And Voight is in a league by himself.
Love the line as he welcomed his Ray's two kids arriving outside...."Hey! I see you got a butler and all!"
"It's my car!"
"But you're still black, ain't ya?"
I don't like Mickey Donovan.
episode plays tonight at 11PM on SHOWTIME.
I am going to watch it later this evening........
Yep, I still think the wife is homely..... I cracked up last week when she found the handcuffs in the bathroom...
and yes, Elliot Gould is great in this role, as is Voight..... nice to see these "old-timers" get some good work.
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"So Ray.....how was YOUR day?"
Glad you asked.....Today, I had to get in an FBI paid infomant's face....then saved an athlete's endorsement career...dealt with a setup for a paternity suit.....then ...I setup that pesky FBI agent that's talking to my father by spiking his morning coffee with LSD.
Oh yeah.....then I had to deal I had to deal with this batsh*t crazy blonde kid who handcuffed herself to my vanity...in her underwear.
Then I visited the tripping FBI agent and upped his dosage after giving him a speech.
All this time, Ezra walks out of the hospital in his gown prior to his brain surgery.
Then I topped it off by putting a gun to Mickey's head and alienating my children.
How was yours? :laugh:
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"So Ray.....how was YOUR day?"
Glad you asked.....Today, I had to get in an FBI paid infomant's face....then saved an athlete's endorsement career...dealt with a setup for a paternity suit.....then ...I setup that pesky FBI agent that's talking to my father by spiking his morning coffee with LSD.
Oh yeah.....then I had to deal I had to deal with this batsh*t crazy blonde kid who handcuffed herself to my vanity...in her underwear.
Then I visited the tripping FBI agent and upped his dosage after giving him a speech.
All this time, Ezra walks out of the hospital in his gown prior to his brain surgery.
Then I topped it off by putting a gun to Mickey's head and alienating my children.
How was yours? :laugh:
Other than that, how was your day? :silly:
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Other than that, how was your day? :silly:
Victor...I've watched that episode twice already and looking forward to seeing it once more before next week.
Rush spoke about this show a little today....he said that after Gandolfini died he watched a lot of different episodes from all the seasons....and could readily talk about it to Catherine...or Snerdly...or anybody.
Not so with Ray Donovan.
It's mesmerizing....but how do you discuss, "....well, you're still black, ain't ya?"
Also....now at 67...wished that I had tried that acid back in the 70's. LOL! :silly:
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Victor...I've watched that episode twice already and looking forward to seeing it once more before next week.
Rush spoke about this show a little today....he said that after Gandolfini died he watched a lot of different episodes from all the seasons....and could readily talk about it to Catherine...or Snerdly...or anybody.
Not so with Ray Donovan.
It's mesmerizing....but how do you discuss, "....well, you're still black, ain't ya?"
Also....now at 67...wished that I had tried that acid back in the 70's. LOL! :silly:
My take on the show originally was that I liked some of the supporting characters (the father and boxing trainer brother in particular) but the big flaw for me was that I didn't like the main character too much. After this last episode I'm starting to muster some sympathy for the guy. It is very dark, but I don't mind that. In fact, some of my favorite movies and series of all time are what some might call deeply disturbing. Blue Velvet, for example, is one of my all-time favs.
BTW, I did drop acid in the 70's and while it's not wasn't as mind blowing as Ray's stuff, there's a reason hardly anyone does it anymore. It's just too intense, and not that pleasant. I use to say an acid trip was a three-day event. One day to get high and two to recover.
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BTW, I did drop acid in the 70's and while it's not wasn't as mind blowing as Ray's stuff, there's a reason hardly anyone does it anymore. It's just too intense, and not that pleasant. I use to say an acid trip was a three-day event. One day to get high and two to recover.
My nephew ended up in a mental hospital when he was 16 after doing acid, he thought the devil was chasing him.
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My nephew ended up in a mental hospital when he was 16 after doing acid, he thought the devil was chasing him.
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I tried LSD in the seventies a couple of times. I was lucky that I didn't have the ill effects that your nephew did. My experience was giggling non-stop for fourteen hours and praying it would be over with soon! One of the times I tried it with a friend of mine, went home & my husband reminded me that we had to go to his family reunion! That was one UNCOMFORTABLE event for me!
I don't recommend it. **nononono*
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I tried LSD in the seventies a couple of times. I was lucky that I didn't have the ill effects that your nephew did. My experience was giggling non-stop for fourteen hours and praying it would be over with soon! One of the times I tried it with a friend of mine, went home & my husband reminded me that we had to go to his family reunion! That was one UNCOMFORTABLE event for me!
I don't recommend it. **nononono*
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: Oh nooooooooooooo
The worst I ever did was smoke pot.... and not until I was in my late 20's....
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Back in 1976...in our little circle...there was an attorney who was about 20 years older than us, who was a recognized authority on 'acid'.
"Henry" was a brilliant man...he could have an engaging conversation on just about anything.
But...because he wasn't actually practicing law in a job anymore...and seemed too young to retire...it didn't seem right.
My housemate Richard told me that it was after a particularly bad LSD experience that Richard stopped working and caring for himself.
....that was enough of an incentive to abstain for me.
...but I sure would like to see my desk top ripple....and a monkey use the restroom. :silly:
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I tried LSD in the seventies a couple of times. I was lucky that I didn't have the ill effects that your nephew did. My experience was giggling non-stop for fourteen hours and praying it would be over with soon! One of the times I tried it with a friend of mine, went home & my husband reminded me that we had to go to his family reunion! That was one UNCOMFORTABLE event for me!
I don't recommend it. **nononono*
LOL!....I 'knew' you were cool, Alice! :beer:
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:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: Oh nooooooooooooo
The worst I ever did was smoke pot.... and not until I was in my late 20's....
I guess you could say I was a hippie in the seventies. We had some fun times and some scary times. A lot of our friends didn't make it. Drug overdoses, motorcycle accidents, suicides, a murder, divorces (children scarred for life), lost jobs and time spent in prison. My husband & I came out of it relatively unscathed. I feel lucky to be here.
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Not familiar with this show, but then I don't get Showtime.
We have The Sopranos to thank for ushering in these amazing-quality cable series dramas that have come out the last 10-15 years. They make up for all the sucky crap at the movie theatres.
I myself am just starting the Breaking Bad series. THAT is how behind I am on things.
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Not familiar with this show, but then I don't get Showtime.
We have The Sopranos to thank for ushering in these amazing-quality cable series dramas that have come out the last 10-15 years. They make up for all the sucky crap at the movie theatres.
I myself am just starting the Breaking Bad series. THAT is how behind I am on things.
Breaking Bad is in AMC right now as a matter of fact.... looks like a marathon. There is also another series they are advertising which looks interesting Hell on Wheels, anyone see it yet?
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LOL!....I 'knew' you were cool, Alice! :beer:
It was horrible, and I thought my husband was going to KILL me! We were newlyweds and this was going to be the first time a lot of his family was going to meet me! I remember trying so hard to keep myself under control - they must have thought I was crazy!
I do remember commenting to someone that the hairs on my arm were rainbow-colored.....next thing I knew, my husband was telling everyone we had to go.
:th_10444:
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Breaking Bad is in AMC right now as a matter of fact.... looks like a marathon. There is also another series they are advertising which looks interesting Hell on Wheels, anyone see it yet?
I saw a few episodes of Hell on Wheels before we dropped our cable tv. It was pretty good - I like that era.
Breaking Bad's last season starts tomorrow night, it is one of my favorite shows of all. The acting and the characters are superb! I'll be watching it at my brother's house. I can't see how Walt can have anything but a pretty bad ending.
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I guess you could say I was a hippie in the seventies. We had some fun times and some scary times. A lot of our friends didn't make it. Drug overdoses, motorcycle accidents, suicides, a murder, divorces (children scarred for life), lost jobs and time spent in prison. My husband & I came out of it relatively unscathed. I feel lucky to be here.
I was very straight arrow, my parents would have killed me if I'd done drugs. My best friend in HS was actually pretty wild and here parents, who were wealthy, used to take me on all their vacations and on weekend trips on their yacht over to Catalina Island because I kept her out of trouble... then one time she got caught at school in a drug bust (they checked lockers) and the school forced her to tell her dad (her mom had a heart issue) and she begged me to go with her to tell him... I still remember he wasn't shocked at her, but he looked at me and asked if I had done it too........ I said "absolutely not, my parents would kill me if I did something like this!!!" later I thought how strange to tell her dad how strict my parents were, but :shrug:
I didn't drink (still don't) because my grandfather was an alcoholic and that left a huge impression on me.. but when I started dating my husband we would smoke pot.. we had a friend who lived up on the coast above San Francisco and we'd go up there with another friend for Thanksgiving.... the munchies are a real thing ~LOL~
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Breaking Bad is in AMC right now as a matter of fact.... looks like a marathon. There is also another series they are advertising which looks interesting Hell on Wheels, anyone see it yet?
I will NOT watch anything on AMC.
Will not take 3 hours to watch an 80 minute flick.
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.... the munchies are a real thing ~LOL~
:silly: Yes, they are!
I did experiment a lot, but I never liked the pills or hard stuff. Pot was something I really liked, kind of took the "rough edges" off things & to this day - I would rather see someone high on pot than drunk on alcohol. There were some years that I actually had a drinking problem...totaled some cars (nice cars - two metallic chocolate brown Trans Ams) 8888crybaby - lucky I wasn't killed - or killed someone else. Finally, I got arrested for drunk driving and spent the night in jail. That was the awakening for me and luckily I cleaned my life up after that. I'm sure I wouldn't be alive now if I hadn't.
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I will NOT watch anything on AMC.
Will not take 3 hours to watch an 80 minute flick.
Remember when AMC was commercial-free?
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Rap....I know your POV on the casting of Ray's wife....being too homely, etc..
But I must ask again....now that you see what and whom she's dealing with...she's purrrfect!
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Rap....I know your POV on the casting of Ray's wife....being too homely, etc..
But I must ask again....now that you see what and whom she's dealing with...she's purrrfect!
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539155/?ref_=tt_cl_t2 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539155/?ref_=tt_cl_t2)
~LOL~ I don't know, DC... he is awfully cute...
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I thinks she cleans up great....and she's got a very nice figure. Nice legs...looks great in heels.
And anytime the actor/actress makes me forget I'm watching a production....they're the reason. And she does constantly. :laugh:
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I thinks she cleans up great....and she's got a very nice figure. Nice legs...looks great in heels.
And anytime the actor/actress makes me forget I'm watching a production....they're the reason. And she does constantly. :laugh:
She has a nice body - agreed. Guess you could put a bag over her face. :beer:
Okay, how the heck do I get Showtime on Demand.. Looks like I can get HBO and STARZ on Demand on my DISH, but there isn't a listing for Showtime....
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She has a nice body - agreed. Guess you could put a bag over her face. :beer:
Okay, how the heck do I get Showtime on Demand.. Looks like I can get HBO and STARZ on Demand on my DISH, but there isn't a listing for Showtime....
Hmmm...glad I manually set my box to record the entire series.
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Hmmm...glad I manually set my box to record the entire series.
It's coming on again at 1 a.m., I just set the DVR.. I kept missing last weeks show... so will let you know tomorrow my impression of this week.
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It's coming on again at 1 a.m., I just set the DVR.. I kept missing last weeks show... so will let you know tomorrow my impression of this week.
I thought last week's show (Aug 6) was the best yet.
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I thought last week's show (Aug 6) was the best yet.
Totally agree with you.
I love at the end...given how clouded and confused Ezra was because of the brain tumor....after surgery and the event with Mickey at Bunchy's house....when Ray tells him that Mickey is talking to the FBI in the dark hospital room, Ezra simply sighs and says, "You know we have to kill him!"
Ezra is so lovable isn't he? LOL!
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Almost tempted to have a "live" thread on the show next week....but it seems not too many of us get SHOWTIME. :pondering:
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Almost tempted to have a "live" thread on the show next week....but it seems not too many of us get SHOWTIME. :pondering:
I usually catch it on Mondays ON DEMAND.
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I set it to record last night and boxing was on followed by Andrew Dice Clay... no Ray Donovan... re-run supposed to be on this afternoon...
I still can't figure how to get Showtime on Demand.
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On Verizon....MENU...VIDEO ON DEMAND...FREE AND PREMIUM...Ray Donovan is up at the top. :patriot:
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Watched the last episode (finally) this afternoon.. that was quite an epi for sure...
I still think wifey is homely.
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BTW AMC has the Hell on Wheels marathon all day today, interesting series. All about the railroad in teh 1800's
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I usually catch it on Mondays ON DEMAND.
Haven't been able to find this week's episode....was it preempted?
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Haven't been able to find this week's episode....was it preempted?
I don't think they ran either Dexter or Ray Donovan this week.
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I don't think they ran either Dexter or Ray Donovan this week.
Thanks. :patriot:
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It was a re-run of last week's Ray Donovan.
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It was another "WOW" episode last evening.
Thought that "Bunchy" was hallucinating due to his alcohol abuse....in confusing which priest had abused him as a young boy. This was because "Mickey" had shot a priest dead as soon as he was released from prison.
The climax of the episode had to be when Ray's wife took it upon herself to go to the gym despite being ordered to remain in the house.
Once she saw with her own eyes what was going on.....she looks at Ray and says...."I'll be waiting for you when you get home!"
AND LEAVES!!!
As a Catholic and former altar boy who never saw anything going on firsthand....it was hard for me to not think this was piling on the Catholic religion...the subject of priest abusing young boys. But it did fit in the plot.
Now I'm wondering what they're going to do with Terry''s girlfriend.
"They took him to the hospital?"
"Yes, they took him to the hospital".
".....which hospital?"
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WOW! Again!
While I was not a fan about the weight given to the priest pedophilia, it did serve as the central issue.
It wrecked three boys of their innocence. Hmmm...today, is that even the proper word.
The conversation between Mickey and Ray at the fight club was award-winning. They'll show that clip when statues are handed out.
All in all, a very emotional episode. Not just for fans of Ray Donovan....but fans of life itself!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9jKWx6VG80
A little insight into the main character....with no spoilers.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCjtjFWFkuw
Trailer for the season finale "Same exactly"
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The ending cracked me up, though
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The ending cracked me up, though
Which part?
The fact that his daughter wasn't freaked out seeing him asleep on the chaise lounge....his white shirt soaked in blood?
That the son merely said...."Is he dead?"
That there was a million dollars in cash in that duffel bag?
That his wife laid down beside him?
Was waiting for you and Victor to check in. :beer:
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Which part?
The fact that his daughter wasn't freaked out seeing him asleep on the chaise lounge....his white shirt soaked in blood?
That the son merely said...."Is he dead?"
That there was a million dollars in cash in that duffel bag?
That his wife laid down beside him?
Was waiting for you and Victor to check in. :beer:
a and b....
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The ending cracked me up, though
I found myself rooting for Tiny....after Sully beat him with the bloodied sneaker.
Had watched some of it again ON DEMAND. The cast was so good....because they all made you forget they were acting.
"You've been dead to me since I was ten years old!" --- Ray Donovan
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I found myself rooting for Tiny....after Sully beat him with the bloodied sneaker.
Had watched some of it again ON DEMAND. The cast was so good....because they all made you forget they were acting.
"You've been dead to me since I was ten years old!" --- Ray Donovan
Yep. I was glad Ray let Tiny go.
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The actor who portrayed the FBI agent, Van Miller, a guy named Frank Whaley, looks to be quite sick or something.
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The actor who portrayed the FBI agent, Van Miller, a guy named Frank Whaley, looks to be quite sick or something.
Yes....he did have some 'issues'... LOL!
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder of some kind...but also not too bright.
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Waited a long time for this to start up......and wasn't disappointed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slqMTLVGU08
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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/22/did_you_see_ann_margret_on_ray_donovan (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/22/did_you_see_ann_margret_on_ray_donovan)
Did You See Ann-Margret on Ray Donovan?
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She is 72 years old!!!!
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We just got Showtime and I watched my first Ray Donovan last night. The episode I saw was.....Ray bribed a parole office to keep his dad out of trouble. Ray is going to buy his wife a new home. The producer had sex with the porn star and got kidnapped.
So I ask is Ray a federal agent? Who killed Scully? Who is the guy that told Ray if his dad got in trouble he and his dad would be back in prison. Can't find him on a cast list, so I don't know his name. I think he is FBI?
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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/22/did_you_see_ann_margret_on_ray_donovan (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/22/did_you_see_ann_margret_on_ray_donovan)
Did You See Ann-Margret on Ray Donovan?
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She is 72 years old!!!!
I saw that last night. If rush hadn't mentioned it i wouldn't have know why she had to pay the 5mil. She did look good.
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Ann Margaret has been married to Roger Smith since 1967.
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We just got Showtime and I watched my first Ray Donovan last night. The episode I saw was.....Ray bribed a parole office to keep his dad out of trouble. Ray is going to buy his wife a new home. The producer had sex with the porn star and got kidnapped.
So I ask is Ray a federal agent? Who killed Scully? Who is the guy that told Ray if his dad got in trouble he and his dad would be back in prison. Can't find him on a cast list, so I don't know his name. I think he is FBI?
Ray paid off the parole officer to make his dad's [Mickey Donovan (Jon Voight)] miserable and a complete hell. He wants to make sure he stays away from the gym where his brothers are, and he wants to keep him away from his kids, especially his impressionable son.
Ray is no federal agent. He puts out fires for the rich and famous. Sort of like a sports agent/baby sitter.
The FBI guy that threatened Ray wants to be the head of the FBI and is trying to earn stripes on the back of the Donovan family.
The priest that sexually abused all the boys as they were growing up was shot and killed by Ray Donovan last season...Ray is trying to protect everybody and keep the FBI and Sully's ex girlfriend in the dark.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3564604/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3564604/)
That character who was blackmailing Ray by keeping his daughter out of the private schools....he has a fetish for a porn star and asked Ray to arrange a hookup. The porn star's husband has a strict red line between business screwing on camera and well....screwing his wife out of lust. When the camera fell, it was to come to a stop....he kept going. Just as Ray intended. LOL!
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Ray paid off the parole officer to make his dad's [Mickey Donovan (Jon Voight)] miserable and a complete hell. He wants to make sure he stays away from the gym where his brothers are, and he wants to keep him away from his kids, especially his impressionable son.
Ray is no federal agent. He puts out fires for the rich and famous. Sort of like a sports agent/baby sitter.
The FBI guy that threatened Ray wants to be the head of the FBI and is trying to earn stripes on the back of the Donovan family.
The priest that sexually abused all the boys as they were growing up was shot and killed by Ray Donovan last season...Ray is trying to protect everybody and keep the FBI and Sully's ex girlfriend in the dark.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3564604/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3564604/)
That character who was blackmailing Ray by keeping his daughter out of the private schools....he has a fetish for a porn star and asked Ray to arrange a hookup. The porn star's husband has a strict red line between business screwing on camera and well....screwing his wife out of lust. When the camera fell, it was to come to a stop....he kept going. Just as Ray intended. LOL!
Thank you so much.....:kisses2: That will help me so much. i didn't want to really read about the episodes i missed, don't want to spoil them.
Who was sully? is the gal who is with Rays father sully's ex girlfriend?
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Sully was a hit man hired by Ray to kill Ray's father. He was played by James Woods and killed last season. Sully's girlfriend was killed last season as well.
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Sully was a hit man hired by Ray to kill Ray's father. He was played by James Woods and killed last season. Sully's girlfriend was killed last season as well.
Thank you so much. :kisses2: So Sully's gal is buried in the desert?
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Thank you so much. :kisses2: So Sully's gal is buried in the desert?
Yep. Sully strangled her with her poodle's leash because he just got tired of the yapping (the girlfriend's not the poodle's).
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Wow! The episode titled 'Viagra' really moved tonight...in terms of several characters are featured engaged with their own personal demons.
Really enjoyed it.
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I haven't watched in several weeks because my wife is in the hospital. She gets out today, so we are looking forward to getting caught up ON DEMAND.
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I haven't watched in several weeks because my wife is in the hospital. She gets out today, so we are looking forward to getting caught up ON DEMAND.
Was actually thinking of you when I 'bumped' the thread, Vic. Know you have enjoyed the series.
So glad your better half is coming home today. Don't forget to empty the dishwasher, vacuum the floors and change the bedding. :police:
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Wow! The episode titled 'Viagra' really moved tonight...in terms of several characters are featured engaged with their own personal demons.
Really enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it as well. Our free Showtime ends this week so I will have to check here for updates unless we decide to keep it.
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I enjoyed it as well. Our free Showtime ends this week so I will have to check here for updates unless we decide to keep it.
Hope you kept it, flowers....holy crap...what an episode tonight.
Just when you think the plot is pulling into a cul-de-sac...the tension keeps building and building.
The final scene in tonight's chapter was devastating. I cannot wait until next week.
...Lord willing. :laugh:
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No spoilers, please guys. We are up to episode five going on six. Almost caught up.
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No spoilers, please guys. We are up to episode five going on six. Almost caught up.
I was being extra-careful..... :beer:
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Hope you kept it, flowers....holy crap...what an episode tonight.
Just when you think the plot is pulling into a cul-de-sac...the tension keeps building and building.
The final scene in tonight's chapter was devastating. I cannot wait until next week.
...Lord willing. :laugh:
I forgot it was on and saw the last 15 minutes. Check you pm here please
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I forgot it was on and saw the last 15 minutes. Check you pm here please
Done.....
BTW....in my opinion, Ray Donovan is more intriguing than the Sopranos ever was. Of course, maybe that's because I'm half Sicilian. LOL!
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Done.....
BTW....in my opinion, Ray Donovan is more intriguing than the Sopranos ever was. Of course, maybe that's because I'm half Sicilian. LOL!
Thanks so much, didn't want to spoil it for massadvj.
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Great show.
Liev Schrieber is amazing.
It's great to see Miami High's native son Rocky Echevarria back on TV.
You all call him Steven Bauer.
Here's a true Miami creation. A bilingual sitcom about three generations of Cuban immigrants living under one roof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMNzdZy41AE
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We watched episode 5 last night. Almost caught up. In my opinion, it is a an excellent series but not as good as The Sopranos. There have been a lot of TV series that I enjoyed over the years: The Wire, Six Feet Under, Big Love, Mad Men. I even enjoyed a very dark series with Kelsey Grammer called Boss. Ray Donovan is on a par with all of these. But The Sopranos is simply unsurpassed.
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I have never seen the Sopranos, so I wouldn't know. I know I like Justified way better than Ray Donovan. I liked Breaking Bad more as well. Game of Thrones is great too.
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Another good one last night.
Victor....hurry up and catch up. Looking to discuss it.
Geesh.....this place is so boring. Nobody seems to like baseball threads either. :tongue2:
PS....I hope your wife is feeling better.
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I am caught up except for last night's episode. But I always catch the latest one On Demand because I don't even know when it comes on. I will say the ending to episode 7, when those guys get shot, was startling, but I think I enjoyed episode 6 (the Birthday Party) more. There were some very funny and cringeworthy moments in that episode.
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I am caught up except for last night's episode. But I always catch the latest one On Demand because I don't even know when it comes on. I will say the ending to episode 7, when those guys get shot, was startling, but I think I enjoyed episode 6 (the Birthday Party) more. There were some very funny and cringeworthy moments in that episode.
Those Irishmen are rea-yall pissahs.
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Another good one last night.
Victor....hurry up and catch up. Looking to discuss it.
Geesh.....this place is so boring. Nobody seems to like baseball threads either. :tongue2:
PS....I hope your wife is feeling better.
Was able to watch Sundays episode.
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Was able to watch Sundays episode.
Yeah....that scene with Ray's brother involving his lady friend's son asking to be lifted out of the bathtub was a little unsettling.
I don't understand why he was unable to express the reason to her. :shrug:
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Yeah....that scene with Ray's brother involving his lady friend's son asking to be lifted out of the bathtub was a little unsettling.
I don't understand why he was unable to express the reason to her. :shrug:
what is the reason? He was raped by the priest right?
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Yeah....that scene with Ray's brother involving his lady friend's son asking to be lifted out of the bathtub was a little unsettling.
I don't understand why he was unable to express the reason to her. :shrug:
That sort of had me thinking too. Is it fear of him having feelings or desires? A fear he may tell her and she goes all sideways? Does every person abused automatically become an abuser? I don't understand and I'm guessing to be pretty happy not to.
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That sort of had me thinking too. Is it fear of him having feelings or desires?
me too.
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Yeah....that scene with Ray's brother involving his lady friend's son asking to be lifted out of the bathtub was a little unsettling.
I don't understand why he was unable to express the reason to her. :shrug:
To express his reasons to her, he would have to expose his having been molested. In effect, in his mind he'd be telling her that he's not a "man" per se.
That's the at large internal struggle for victims of pederasty.
Having lived the majority of his life dealing with his molestation, and having the idea that contact between adults and children is evil and destructive (specifically adult males and male children), plus the fact that (from understanding the Mickey Donovan character, and imagining the sort of father that he was to his young sons), Bunchy can't process the idea that the sort of contact that Clifford and he were having was not sexual in nature, because of his previous experience under similar circumstances (being a naked child held by an adult).
I think that Bunchy is simply a sexual anorexic who is afraid that having been molested himself by a man that everyone else in his whole world called a "good man" and a man of God, his being a good man doesn't mean that he won't try an molest Clifford.
His lousy explanation, his impotence and his child-like personality are manifestations of a tightly restrained, deeply buried id.
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I watched the episode tonight. My sense was that he was in a no win situation because to tell the truth exposes him as a closet pedophile and to lie means their relationship loses its honest foundation. Regardless of his sincerity and inherent decency, no mother would risk her son's well-being once she recognized the danger. And that is why nothing he could have said was going to keep her from telling him to leave.
I also wonder what will be the implications of Ray succumbing to his homo-erotic demons as was suggested by the ending.
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I also wonder what will be the implications of Ray succumbing to his homo-erotic demons as was suggested by the ending.
What?
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What?
What Victor is alluding to is the final scene where Ray knocked on the door of that inspirational speaker's assistant....the hot young blonde who had previously visited Ray at his apartment hideout.
When she answered, he discovered that he was there too...and he dared Ray to join a threesome.
Ray hesitates....as the scene goes black.
We'll find out next week if they crossed swords.
I'm glad Victor has caught up.....now we can discuss freely without ruining it for anybody. :laugh:
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What Victor is alluding to is the final scene where Ray knocked on the door of that inspirational speaker's assistant....the hot young blonde who had previously visited Ray at his apartment hideout.
When she answered, he discovered that he was there too...and he dared Ray to join a threesome.
Ray hesitates....as the scene goes black.
We'll find out next week if they crossed swords.
I'm glad Victor has caught up.....now we can discuss freely without ruining it for anybody. :laugh:
Did we all watch the same show?
Ray shows up at this chick's house to do what Ray always does when he's had a shot day... has sex.
When the pop psychologist walks up behind her, his exact words are: "What do you think Ray? One of us might have to stop f$&^ing her", not both of us should go f#$k her now."
Then when Ray gives out that "I've an epic day from Hell" look and says nothing, he looks at Ray and says, "What's wrong Ray? Come in. Tell me about your day."
There's nothing in that scene that even hints at a suggestion of a threesome.
You all having a party in your own heads.
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Did we all watch the same show?
Ray shows up at this chick's house to do what Ray always does when he's had a shot day... has sex.
When the pop psychologist walks up behind her, his exact words are: "What do you think Ray? One of us might have to stop f$&^ing her", not both of us should go f#$k her now."
Then when Ray gives out that "I've an epic day from Hell" look and says nothing, he looks at Ray and says, "What's wrong Ray? Come in. Tell me about your day."
There's nothing in that scene that even hints at a suggestion of a threesome.
You all having a party in your own heads.
:silly: :silly:
LOL! You're right, Luis.
I blame it on my acute tinnitus, Luis. Just played it back and you're right. I thought he had said, "start" instead of "stop".
So the inference is that maybe he's going inside to learn how to cope with his propensity to cheat. (boring lol)
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If you guys cannot see the nuances then I can't help you. There has been a sexual tension between Ray and the pop psycho from the beginning. You'll see. I can't say whether Ray will "go there" (my guess is no) but he will definitely be tempted based on Ray's own childhood demons.
It's often been said that when you have an MMF situation it's just an excuse for the men to do it to each other without having to consciously admit it. The woman is simply a conduit. That was the implication of the final scene.
Ray Donovan is an extremely angry man who uses sex to release his anger. For the past dozen or so episodes there have been hints dropped here and there that he may subconsciously harbor a desire to do it to a man, possibly because men, or a particular man, are at the source of his anger.
Sheesh. Do I have to explain everything to you guys?
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LOL! You're right, Luis.
I blame it on my acute tinnitus, Luis. Just played it back and you're right. I thought he had said, "start" instead of "stop".
So the inference is that maybe he's going inside to learn how to cope with his propensity to cheat. (boring lol)
Naw...
He's going to bang the blonde after he beats the crap out of the dude and throws him out the back door
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If you guys cannot see the nuances then I can't help you. There has been a sexual tension between Ray and the pop psycho from the beginning. You'll see. I can't say whether Ray will "go there" (my guess is no) but he will definitely be tempted based on Ray's own childhood demons.
You may need a shower.
That's not sexual tension. That's having to put up with an a$$hole.
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If you guys cannot see the nuances then I can't help you. There has been a sexual tension between Ray and the pop psycho from the beginning. You'll see. I can't say whether Ray will "go there" (my guess is no) but he will definitely be tempted based on Ray's own childhood demons.
It's often been said that when you have an MMF situation it's just an excuse for the men to do it to each other without having to consciously admit it. The woman is simply a conduit. That was the implication of the final scene.
Ray Donovan is an extremely angry man who uses sex to release his anger. For the past dozen or so episodes there have been hints dropped here and there that he may subconsciously harbor a desire to do it to a man, possibly because men, or a particular man, are at the source of his anger.
Sheesh. Do I have to explain everything to you guys?
I like your take the best, Victor. Thanks.
One thing for sure....I'm getting to dislike the wife's character more with each passing week.
As far as the rapper's killer...we all know and expect Ray to deal with him personally before it's all over.
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Naw...
He's going to bang the blonde after he beats the crap out of the dude and throws him out the back door
I'll take that bet, Luis....if you're serious. LOL!
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Put your money up, Luis......next episode coming up tonight.
We'll see if Ray is going to get on the couch with the pop inspirational speaker....or as you said, beat the crap out of him and get on the couch with the blonde. :laugh:
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Wow!
Things are moving awfully fast now.....
What's the over and under on if Cochran ever lives to become the Attorney General of the United States? The scene at the dinner table at that restaurant was unexpected, wasn't it?
And that 'crew' Mickey's thrown together to pull that job is bound to fail.
One thing for sure....I'm not a fan of Ray's wife anymore. When she asked her policeman boyfriend to off the thug...she said, "Be a man"?? WTF?
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Then ray jumps into the ocean the final scene. Makes you wonder what the 3 of them did? Yeah the wife is horrible. I thought that guy was going to kill Cochran for sure.
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Then ray jumps into the ocean the final scene. Makes you wonder what the 3 of them did?
You notice that Ray has a soft spot for handicapped persons. He warned the boyfriend that if he ever laid another hand on the peeping Tom/stalker that he'd kill him.
The swim in the ocean tells me that since his entire world seems to be going to sh*t, that...what the hell, maybe I'll surrender to the ocean and try to see if it brings him a little peace and clarity...to deal with what's coming next.
As an aside....I don't know why Ray doesn't just turn the spy sex tape over to the government...especially now that the poor schmuck underling killed himself.
Also, don't know why he didn't shoot Cochran in the face first....before he turned the gun on himself. Or course, we'd expect it all to come out with a DOJ investigation of the restaurant shooting as to motive, etc..
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You notice that Ray has a soft spot for handicapped persons. He warned the boyfriend that if he ever laid another hand on the peeping Tom/stalker that he'd kill him.
The swim in the ocean tells me that since his entire world seems to be going to sh*t, that...what the hell, maybe I'll surrender to the ocean and try to see if it brings him a little peace and clarity...to deal with what's coming next.
As an aside....I don't know why Ray doesn't just turn the spy sex tape over to the government...especially now that the poor schmuck underling killed himself.
Also, don't know why he didn't shoot Cochran in the face first....before he turned the gun on himself. Or course, we'd expect it all to come out with a DOJ investigation of the restaurant shooting as to motive, etc..
I would have expected that shoot Cochran in the face first then turn the gun on himself, yet this way Cochran will have issues to be top cop, and we don't know if Ray or the other guy before he killed himself sent the tapes to media or powers that be.
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I would have expected that shoot Cochran in the face first then turn the gun on himself, yet this way Cochran will have issues to be top cop, and we don't know if Ray or the other guy before he killed himself sent the tapes to media or powers that be.
I don't think the suicide agent knew Ray and Avi set the cameras up. Can't recall. :shrug:
But no...Ray did not send the tape. Remember that Cochran ordered Ray into his office and told him to "get rid" of the blonde writer/reporter, and that's when Ray told him she wasn't what he should be afraid of....and then showed him the video on his phone.
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Then ray jumps into the ocean the final scene. Makes you wonder what the 3 of them did? Yeah the wife is horrible. I thought that guy was going to kill Cochran for sure.
You all need showers.
What man would get as looped as Ray said that he'd gotten, "do" anything sexual with any number of persons, then take the time to get fully dressed, down to his socks, before passing out on the couch?
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I watched the episode last night. Here are my comments.
1. Ray did not have sex with the pop psycho and the pop star. There remains an ambiguous relationship between the pop psycho and Ray, and there remains some sexual tension in it, but that was much less evident than in previous nights. In Freudian dream interpretation, beaches and waves are symbolic of sex, so Ray jumping naked in the water in the same way the pop psycho did earlier does suggest that Ray is coming around surrendering to the pop psycho's will. We still are not clear whether that will involve sex or just mind games. If it is mind games, there will be a sexual undercurrent, you can bet on that much.
2. Why did Ray jump in the water? I think it had multiple meanings. The first is enumerated above. Also, I think it is emblematic of Ray's desire to wash away his sins. He was feeling particularly dirty at that moment, having violated his personal code of justice by nearly killing the girl reporter. You'll remember that the pop psycho jumped into the waves after his act of violence against the stalker. So Ray is both succumbing to the pop psycho by adopting this methodology for dealing with internal violence issues, and attempting to clear his conscience.
3. Ray would not turn the tape over to the government for the simple reason that the tape continues to have value for him. In spite of the suicide by the young FBI man, the head honcho might well weasel his way out of the scandal. Having the tape gives Ray leverage to save the reporter's life, whereas giving the tape up relinquishes control. Remember, Ray is a total control freak. He would never give up control and hope that events would evolve in the way he expects. He desperately needs to control events himself.
4. It did seem strange that the FBI guy did not kill Cochran. I think it's one of those things where the plot needs Cochran alive at this point, so he had to be spared. But it is also plausible. The young agent was a sniveling, butt-kissing coward. He went to the restaurant intending to kill Cochran, but in the end he only had enough courage to kill himself. The fact that Cochran's wife was pleading for his life may have had something to do with it. I thought Cochran's facial expression at this point was priceless. You could see Cochran was terribly inconvenienced and angry, but wasn't going to give a second's thought to whether he should feel culpable or guilty for the suicide.
5. Everything Ray's father touches turns to shit, and this robbery will be no different. But watching it unfold will be fascinating.
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I watched the episode last night. Here are my comments.
1. Ray did not have sex with the pop psycho and the pop star. There remains an ambiguous relationship between the pop psycho and Ray, and there remains some sexual tension in it, but that was much less evident than in previous nights. In Freudian dream interpretation, beaches and waves are symbolic of sex, so Ray jumping naked in the water in the same way the pop psycho did earlier does suggest that Ray is coming around surrendering to the pop psycho's will. We still are not clear whether that will involve sex or just mind games. If it is mind games, there will be a sexual undercurrent, you can bet on that much.
2. Why did Ray jump in the water? I think it had multiple meanings. The first is enumerated above. Also, I think it is emblematic of Ray's desire to wash away his sins. He was feeling particularly dirty at that moment, having violated his personal code of justice by nearly killing the girl reporter. You'll remember that the pop psycho jumped into the waves after his act of violence against the stalker. So Ray is both succumbing to the pop psycho by adopting this methodology for dealing with internal violence issues, and attempting to clear his conscience.
3. Ray would not turn the tape over to the government for the simple reason that the tape continues to have value for him. In spite of the suicide by the young FBI man, the head honcho might well weasel his way out of the scandal. Having the tape gives Ray leverage to save the reporter's life, whereas giving the tape up relinquishes control. Remember, Ray is a total control freak. He would never give up control and hope that events would evolve in the way he expects. He desperately needs to control events himself.
4. It did seem strange that the FBI guy did not kill Cochran. I think it's one of those things where the plot needs Cochran alive at this point, so he had to be spared. But it is also plausible. The young agent was a sniveling, butt-kissing coward. He went to the restaurant intending to kill Cochran, but in the end he only had enough courage to kill himself. The fact that Cochran's wife was pleading for his life may have had something to do with it. I thought Cochran's facial expression at this point was priceless. You could see Cochran was terribly inconvenienced and angry, but wasn't going to give a second's thought to whether he should feel culpable or guilty for the suicide.
5. Everything Ray's father touches turns to shit, and this robbery will be no different. But watching it unfold will be fascinating.
:beer: great summary.
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Like Vinnie Barbarino used to say...."I'M SO CONFUSED!!!"
Questions....
1) Did Ray's son accidentally set the oxygen tank so that it would blow when a spark was ignited?
2) What was Ray really going to do with the tape of the murder witnessed by Ray's daughter? He sure as heck wasn't going to hand it to Cookie. It would be a death warrant for his daughter, and possibly Ray.
3) Wouldn't the cops see the tape that Ray paid $20K for....that Marty tried to get $2Million for? LOL! After all, when you're arrested, don't they empty all your pockets?
4) WTH is Ezra up to?
5) Jim Holloran is a piece of work. He was going to plant coke on Cookie. How did the partner not pursue it further?
6) Where is the safe now?
7) Who thinks that Ray's brother is going to give up his father and brother? Not me.
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Like Vinnie Barbarino used to say...."I'M SO CONFUSED!!!"
Questions....
1) Did Ray's son accidentally set the oxygen tank so that it would blow when a spark was ignited?
2) What was Ray really going to do with the tape of the murder witnessed by Ray's daughter? He sure as heck wasn't going to hand it to Cookie. It would be a death warrant for his daughter, and possibly Ray.
3) Wouldn't the cops see the tape that Ray paid $20K for....that Marty tried to get $2Million for? LOL! After all, when you're arrested, don't they empty all your pockets?
4) WTH is Ezra up to?
5) Jim Holloran is a piece of work. He was going to plant coke on Cookie. How did the partner not pursue it further?
6) Where is the safe now?
7) Who thinks that Ray's brother is going to give up his father and brother? Not me.
1) Did Ray's son accidentally set the oxygen tank so that it would blow when a spark was ignited?
It looks like he thinks he did.
Also the video is in Ray's car, now that he has been arrested won't the car be impounded?
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Personally, I didn't think this episode was as compelling as previous ones, but it was entertaining enough.
1) Did Ray's son accidentally set the oxygen tank so that it would blow when a spark was ignited?
In the end it was probably an accident, but the script was deliberately written to leave the audience questioning whether Ray's son did it intentionally ("Are you going to die?" he asks the guy, maybe thinking it would be merciful to take him out of his misery), or whether the cancer victim did it to himself ("Go lay in your grandfather's bed, mine has bed bugs" might have been a feeble excuse to get rid of the kid). But I think in the end it was just an accident and the previous conversations were ironic but not indicative of anything other than coincidence.
2) What was Ray really going to do with the tape of the murder witnessed by Ray's daughter? He sure as heck wasn't going to hand it to Cookie. It would be a death warrant for his daughter, and possibly Ray.
He obviously wasn't going to turn it over. I was thinking Ray was either going to give Cookie a doctored version or kill him.
3) Wouldn't the cops see the tape that Ray paid $20K for....that Marty tried to get $2Million for? LOL! After all, when you're arrested, don't they empty all your pockets?
Assuming he still has it on him, I guess you are right.
4) WTH is Ezra up to?
I think he is trying to convince Ray's employee to dig up the priest.
5) Jim Holloran is a piece of work. He was going to plant coke on Cookie. How did the partner not pursue it further?
The partner was an honest cop and so, in the end, was Holloran.
6) Where is the safe now?
Presumably, it's still in the back of the truck in hiding somewhere. Maybe parked behind the boxing gym?
7) Who thinks that Ray's brother is going to give up his father and brother? Not me.
No way.
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This brother of Rays who was caught, he has the x-wife and wants to move out of country right? If it is that brother, then yes he will give one or both of them up.
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This brother of Rays who was caught, he has the x-wife and wants to move out of country right? If it is that brother, then yes he will give one or both of them up.
I don't remember his every being married. She is/was married however and I recall him begging her to leave him.
She offered him $40K to start up a new business and for the relocation, but his pride wouldn't allow him to do it.
I think it's going to be Mickey's black son who...with the insistence of his mother...Mickey's supposed one true love, that ultimately goes after Mickey.
Remember too, that Ray "promised" to kill Mickey if he ever came near his family again. And this past event should qualify, don't you think? LOL!
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I don't remember his every being married. She is/was married however and I recall him begging her to leave him.
She offered him $40K to start up a new business and for the relocation, but his pride wouldn't allow him to do it.
I think it's going to be Mickey's black son who...with the insistence of his mother...Mickey's supposed one true love, that ultimately goes after Mickey.
Remember too, that Ray "promised" to kill Mickey if he ever came near his family again. And this past event should qualify, don't you think? LOL!
The woman I am talking about is the nurse. The bother has Parkinsons, and yes this past event would qualify. He has 2 brothers right? The guy who was molested by the priest and the guy who owns the gym and has parkinsons.
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I see the season finale is tonight.
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I see the season finale is tonight.
Don't forget to set your DVR's ladies and gentlemen!
Should be a great finale tonight. Lots of a Karma to be handed out, don't you think? LOL!
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Thoroughly enjoyed this finale.
Honest...knew right away there was a piece in the duffel bag holding the million dollars when he went to see Cookie.
Only thing that threw me was Mickey's horse winning.
A perfect ending for a new season, too.
"Ray"?
.....fade to black. :beer:
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Thoroughly enjoyed this finale.
Honest...knew right away there was a piece in the duffel bag holding the million dollars when he went to see Cookie.
Only thing that threw me was Mickey's horse winning.
A perfect ending for a new season, too.
"Ray"?
.....fade to black. :beer:
Yeah, Mickey winning was a different. Most shows (except for douchebucket Roseanne) do not have a big $$ winner. It was a very good season finale.