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Title: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 18, 2018, 03:03:11 pm
De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
NY Post, Jan 17, 2018

Mayor Bill de Blasio blindsided Manhattan’s “Billionaire’s Row” with a quietly announced plan to open a men’s homeless shelter in the former Park Savoy Hotel.

The building at 158 W. 58th St. — which stands back-to-back against the city’s most expensive apartment building, One57 — is being converted into housing for 150 residents and is scheduled to open in March, the city’s Department of Homeless Services said Wednesday.

Hizzoner’s plan — part of a program to create 90 new shelters across all five boroughs — was revealed last week in letters to local elected officials.

“Are you kidding me?” said a resident of the landmark JW Marriott Essex House hotel and condo building on Park South.  “I am in shock. You just shocked the s–t out of me.”

More: https://nypost.com/2018/01/17/de-blasio-plans-to-open-homeless-shelter-on-billionaires-row/
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: driftdiver on January 18, 2018, 03:05:31 pm
a simple lawsuit with the zoning commission should fix this, or heck one of them will buy the building and kick them out.

I suggest De Blasio open up his own home.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: endicom on January 18, 2018, 03:15:07 pm
Dinkins redux. The egalitarians destroyed sections of NYC with welfare hotels.

As part of my job I would walk through Herald Square (shopping district - Macy's, etc.) and watched it turn into a slum. It was becoming dangerous to be there midday. The same was happening in the Theater and Financial districts.

Then Giuliani.



Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 03:29:31 pm
Mayor Bill de Blasio blindsided Manhattan’s “Billionaire’s Row” with a quietly announced plan to open a men’s homeless shelter in the former Park Savoy Hotel.

*************

“Are you kidding me?” said a resident of the landmark JW Marriott Essex House hotel and condo building on Park South.  “I am in shock. You just shocked the s–t out of me.”


Like the days of Stomping at the Savoy
Now we "freak," oh, what a joy
Just come on down to the 54
Find your spot out on the floor

Ah, freak out!
Le freak, c'est chic
Freak out!





Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: txradioguy on January 18, 2018, 03:33:35 pm
That's a move right out of Lenin's playbook.

I'm sure the people who funded his last campaign who live in that area will love what he's doing.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Oceander on January 18, 2018, 03:34:33 pm
a simple lawsuit with the zoning commission should fix this, or heck one of them will buy the building and kick them out.

I suggest De Blasio open up his own home.

In NYC?  You jest, right?
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: dfwgator on January 18, 2018, 03:35:11 pm
Well they voted for it, enjoy.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: sneakypete on January 18, 2018, 03:35:41 pm
EXCELLENT news! No group of people have  a higher percentage of leftist loons than the NYC millionaire and billionaire clubs. Most are multi-generational trust fund children with a lot of kneejerk programming,and not one single actual thought.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 03:40:57 pm
That's a move right out of Lenin's playbook.

I'm sure the people who funded his last campaign who live in that area will love what he's doing.


We’ve seen this movie before......

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mq__Z-Z_Ofs
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Victoria33 on January 18, 2018, 03:50:09 pm
That's a move right out of Lenin's playbook.
I'm sure the people who funded his last campaign who live in that area will love what he's doing.
@txradioguy

Story about homeless:
A couple of weeks ago, we had a cold front come in, temp was below freezing.  Bob went to a water place where he gets the big jugs of drinking water for a container at home.  It was late afternoon. There was a woman dressed in shorts in the doorway of that business.  He has seen her there before.  She spoke to him and wanted to come home with him, saying she had no place to stay that night in the cold.  He tried to give her a $100 bill, and she wouldn't take it - said that isn't what she needs right now.

He was disturbed that she was going to be in the cold that night but wouldn't take the money.  Now, that makes no sense.  That money could pay for a night in a motel where she would be warm.  There is no way he would bring home a stranger.
What would you do if that woman asked to go home with you?
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 03:59:59 pm
@txradioguy

Story about homeless:
A couple of weeks ago, we had a cold front come in, temp was below freezing.  Bob went to a water place where he gets the big jugs of drinking water for a container at home.  It was late afternoon. There was a woman dressed in shorts in the doorway of that business.  He has seen her there before.  She spoke to him and wanted to come home with him, saying she had no place to stay that night in the cold.  He tried to give her a $100 bill, and she wouldn't take it - said that isn't what she needs right now.

He was disturbed that she was going to be in the cold that night but wouldn't take the money.  Now, that makes no sense.  That money could pay for a night in a motel where she would be warm.  There is no way he would bring home a stranger.
What would you do if that woman asked to go home with you?

Sounds like solicitation to me.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 04:05:48 pm
Sounds like solicitation to me.


Silly man.  How do you get that out of ‘big jugs,’ ‘shorts,’ ‘$100,’ and let’s go back to your place?    :silly:
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: mountaineer on January 18, 2018, 04:29:19 pm
EXCELLENT news! No group of people have  a higher percentage of leftist loons than the NYC millionaire and billionaire clubs. Most are multi-generational trust fund children with a lot of kneejerk programming,and not one single actual thought.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.
Maybe next time they won't elect a Marxist who uses an alias.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 04:33:05 pm
Maybe next time they won't elect a Marxist who uses an alias.


Problem is, you get a Giuliani or Bloomberg type Republican. 
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Victoria33 on January 18, 2018, 04:34:45 pm
Sounds like solicitation to me.
@Frank Cannon

We thought about that.  If she had that in mind, she would have taken the money and offered sex.  She didn't, and wouldn't take the money. A prostitute would have taken the free money.  I'm thinking something is wrong with her mind.  No one would turn down free money when she was freezing unless she couldn't think right.  Also, that is an upscale area, as this whole area is, not a place where prostitutes would hang out.  We have wondered what happened to her that night.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Restored on January 18, 2018, 04:35:06 pm
The number of Leftists living there is why it won't happen. It's just a PR stunt. They donate too much to liberal politicians to let it happen.

We open our churches to the homeless. It places the men in peril of being arrested because some of them are registered sex offenders and not allowed to be there. But we feel good about ourselves. I have found that much of the "help" we do for the poor is done to cover up crimes. We are covering up crimes tonight at Small Group.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 04:36:33 pm
@Frank Cannon

We thought about that.  If she had that in mind, she would have taken the money and offered sex.  She didn't, and wouldn't take the money. A prostitute would have taken the free money.  I'm thinking something is wrong with her mind.  No one would turn down free money when she was freezing unless she couldn't think right.  Also, that is an upscale area, as this whole area is, not a place where prostitutes would hang out.  We have wondered what happened to her that night.

She thought you were cops.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: mountaineer on January 18, 2018, 04:39:24 pm
Problem is, you get a Giuliani or Bloomberg type Republican.
As mayors go, NYC could have done a lot worse than Giuliani. Bloomberg, on the other hand ...   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: dfwgator on January 18, 2018, 04:41:22 pm

Problem is, you get a Giuliani or Bloomberg type Republican.

What was wrong with Giuliani?
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: sneakypete on January 18, 2018, 04:42:44 pm

Problem is, you get a Giuliani or Bloomberg type Republican.

@edpc

No,the problem is they have to wear party labels so you can tell them apart.

Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 04:43:17 pm
What was wrong with Giuliani?


For NYC?  Nothing.  However, there was obviously plenty wrong with him as a national candidate, based on his performance.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: sneakypete on January 18, 2018, 04:44:00 pm
@Frank Cannon

We thought about that.  If she had that in mind, she would have taken the money and offered sex.  She didn't, and wouldn't take the money. A prostitute would have taken the free money.  I'm thinking something is wrong with her mind.  No one would turn down free money when she was freezing unless she couldn't think right.  Also, that is an upscale area, as this whole area is, not a place where prostitutes would hang out.  We have wondered what happened to her that night.

@Victoria33

She was wearing shorts and it was freezing. That's really all you need to know to identify a nut case.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: dfwgator on January 18, 2018, 04:45:33 pm

For NYC?  Nothing.  However, there was obviously plenty wrong with him as a national candidate, based on his performance.

Agreed.  In NYC, he's as good as you ever are going to get.  NYC isn't like the rest of the country.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 04:46:05 pm

For NYC?  Nothing.  However, there was obviously plenty wrong with him as a national candidate, based on his performance.

We're talking about NYC mayors here. Not national politics. Rudy was the awesomist mayor that town ever saw. I couldn't believe the speed in which he turned that city from a dangerous hellhole to a safe clean place to be.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Victoria33 on January 18, 2018, 04:50:07 pm
Silly man.  How do you get that out of ‘big jugs,’ ‘shorts,’ ‘$100,’ and let’s go back to your place?    :silly:
@edpc

Well, water was in the big jugs; the jugs not on her.  :silly:   And, she didn’t take the free money and a prostitute would have.  She knew she was stuck there and still didn’t take the money.  As I told Frank, it is an upscale area, not a place prostitutes would hang out.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 04:53:42 pm
We're talking about NYC mayors here. Not national politics. Rudy was the awesomist mayor that town ever saw. I couldn't believe the speed in which he turned that city from a dangerous hellhole to a safe clean place to be.


He did and a lot of that was due to his stances on gun laws and stop and frisk.  Let's not pretend we'd find positions like that from a Democrat anything other than a blatant trampling on Constitutional rights.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 04:57:39 pm

Like the days of Stomping at the Savoy
Now we "freak," oh, what a joy
Just come on down to the 54
Find your spot out on the floor

Ah, freak out!
Le freak, c'est chic
Freak out!

Thanks for reminding how much Disco Sucked monkey testicles.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Victoria33 on January 18, 2018, 05:00:22 pm
She thought you were cops.
@Frank Cannon

Bob was by himself.  Maybe you are right - she didn't ask for money, said she had no place to stay that night, and that would not be solicitation.  But if she took the money, thinking Bob was a cop, that WOULD be solicitation, except sex was never brought up.  What you say must be it.  Not many people would offer someone a free hundred dollar bill and that made her think he was a cop.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: endicom on January 18, 2018, 05:01:57 pm
Agreed.  In NYC, he's as good as you ever are going to get.  NYC isn't like the rest of the country.

He was about as fiscally conservative as was possible.

When mayor, he had a weekly radio show and was pretty good. He would talk and then take calls. Callers were sometimes small landlords. One landlord was a woman with what I took to be an Eastern European accent. She complained about the housing courts letting bad tenants get away with everything. Giuliani knew all about that but had no authority over the housing courts.

She kept pressing him until he said, "Here's where I get into trouble." He then explained that the housing courts were dominated by leftists, some outright Marxists, and, again, that he had no authority there. She obviously knew what the housing courts were but apparently just wanted to hear him say it.

He was up against Deep City and it's a wonder that he got anything done.

Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 05:03:51 pm

He did and a lot of that was due to his stances on gun laws and stop and frisk.  Let's not pretend we'd find positions like that from a Democrat anything other than a blatant trampling on Constitutional rights.

I don't know if you had the pleasure of being in NYC in the 70's or 80's but it was a level of hell that's hard to describe unless you were there. Hell, there was a pamphlet that told visitors not to go out on the streets after 6pm because you would, not might, get mugged or worse. I once got sucked into going to see an awful play that will remain nameless and as we were walking up to the Winter Garden, I watched some shitbag get a BJ from some fat black whore in an alcove in the middle of a sunny day.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 05:06:13 pm
I don't know if you had the pleasure of being in NYC in the 70's or 80's but it was a level of hell that's hard to describe unless you were there. Hell, there was a pamphlet that told visitors not to go out on the streets after 6pm because you would, not might, get mugged or worse. I once got sucked into going to see an awful play that will remain nameless and as we were walking up to the Winter Garden, I watched some shitbag get a BJ from some fat black whore in an alcove in the middle of a sunny day.


How much did you have to pay to watch?
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 05:12:04 pm
Coming back by popular de blasio programs.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/27/arts/27the-deuce1/27the-deuce1-superJumbo.jpg)

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Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 05:13:01 pm

How much did you have to pay to watch?

It was during the Koch years so all public services were free.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 05:20:15 pm
Coming back by popular de blasio programs.


Where the hell else is Travis Bickle going to take Betsy for a date?
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Sanguine on January 18, 2018, 05:29:41 pm
A number of years ago, the Austin City Council decided that the "homeless" should be housed 1 block away from the music (and drinking) district and conference center of Austin, Sixth Street.  So, now if you go to that area, there are blocks and blocks of "homeless" living on the sidewalks, some with tents and stolen grocery carts, all with trash and chaos.  Crime has gone way up and I don't even go down there in daylight. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2677272,-97.738059,3a,75y,65.72h,91.65t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2677272,-97.738059,3a,75y,65.72h,91.65t/data=)!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgGfH9gAmYhTZRIEc8oxLfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 05:33:19 pm
An Austin panhandler can make 40 to 50K tax free is he has a good spot at the end of an I-35 Off Ramp
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 18, 2018, 05:41:53 pm
An Austin panhandler can make 40 to 50K tax free is he has a good spot at the end of an I-35 Off Ramp

That location makes the commute to work a breeze.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 05:44:31 pm
That location makes the commute to work a breeze.

Yep.  They park their BMW's down the block and walk to their intersection with a freshly lettered "Help Me" sign.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: dfwgator on January 18, 2018, 06:07:26 pm
Coming back by popular de blasio programs.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/27/arts/27the-deuce1/27the-deuce1-superJumbo.jpg)

(https://cmsplatypus.gothamist.com/gothamistgallery/2017/9/8/8b55c9172gettyimages-3263393-jpg-square.jpeg)

(http://iwatchstuff.com/2015/06/18/times-square-porn.jpg)

Going to need another "Real Rain".
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Oceander on January 18, 2018, 06:11:23 pm
Coming back by popular de blasio programs.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/08/27/arts/27the-deuce1/27the-deuce1-superJumbo.jpg)

(https://cmsplatypus.gothamist.com/gothamistgallery/2017/9/8/8b55c9172gettyimages-3263393-jpg-square.jpeg)

(http://iwatchstuff.com/2015/06/18/times-square-porn.jpg)

Probably not.  The laws against these types of businesses are written fairly robustly and have survived numerous challenges, so at least in Manhattan it’s unlikely these places will come back. Illegal versions of these businesses might start cropping up more in the outer boroughs, and there De Blasio is likely to “encourage” the cops to turn a blind eye. 
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Restored on January 18, 2018, 06:40:03 pm
Yep.  They park their BMW's down the block and walk to their intersection with a freshly lettered "Help Me" sign.

Don't forget "God bless" and "veteran".

They can count on about $80-100 on a good day where I grew up. People have become numb to them. The guys who get the good money have a route. They work areas for short amounts of time. Liquor stores are good places if you tell the marks you are trying to get enough for a bottle.
One of the "Need food" guys tried to sell me a $10 McDonalds gift certificate for $5. People kept handing him those things. It's hard time now though. Fewer people carry cash.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 18, 2018, 07:07:51 pm
Taking a trick out of the old Marxist hat. Sow seeds of social chaos and disruption, sit back and wait for things to get ripe, never let a crisis go to waste.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 07:20:24 pm
Don't forget "God bless" and "veteran".

They can count on about $80-100 on a good day where I grew up. People have become numb to them. The guys who get the good money have a route. They work areas for short amounts of time. Liquor stores are good places if you tell the marks you are trying to get enough for a bottle.
One of the "Need food" guys tried to sell me a $10 McDonalds gift certificate for $5. People kept handing him those things. It's hard time now though. Fewer people carry cash.

Last time I was in Austin I rolled down my window and the guy scurries over with his bucket out and I asked him; "Do have Square?"   I don't know what I would have done if he had said Yes!!!
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: mountaineer on January 18, 2018, 07:26:01 pm
Taking a trick out of the old Marxist hat. Sow seeds of social chaos and disruption, sit back and wait for things to get ripe, never let a crisis go to waste.
Maybe Rahm will do it in Chicago, too, just for fun.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: dfwgator on January 18, 2018, 07:28:04 pm
Don't forget "God bless" and "veteran".
 

(https://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/arts/gallery/2007/jul/20/comedy.films/trading_places_kobal-9369.jpg)
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: edpc on January 18, 2018, 07:31:33 pm
Don't forget "God bless" and "veteran".


Hey, don't make fun.  That's brought in $88K a quarter for 20 years......somewhere.  I'm trying to recall the place.   :pondering:
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: WingNot on January 18, 2018, 07:39:54 pm
I have read that Before it became a weird, garish tourist center with a massive store exclusively for idiots to buy trendy things, Times Square was not a place to take a visiting family.  What is now the Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. was even less appetizing than it is currently, because dudes were quietly jacking off in there. In fact, dudes were quietly jacking off a lot of places in Midtown back then.

As most famously seen in Taxi Driver, Times Square of the '70s was full of seedy porn theaters. When you paid to see a woman's dead eyes look into your own, it was at a peep show, not Madame Tussauds. On Broadway, instead of The Lion King, there was a pimp who also called himself the Lion King, but refused to sing.
Title: Re: De Blasio plans to open homeless shelter on ‘Billionaire’s Row’
Post by: Fishrrman on January 18, 2018, 11:24:02 pm
Frank Cannon wrote:
"We're talking about NYC mayors here. Not national politics. Rudy was the awesomist mayor that town ever saw. I couldn't believe the speed in which he turned that city from a dangerous hellhole to a safe clean place to be."

Right on, Frank.

Some of the milquetoasts here should have seen the South Bronx back in the days of Abe Beame. I did, I used to work at Oak Point freight yard and go to the Hunts Point market delivering refrigerator cars into the night.

Some of the hookers there walked around naked (that's spelled n.a.k.e.d) on the street in the daylight. Cops didn'donuffin' back then.

It got cleaned up a little during the Koch administration (he was sumthin' of a public prude), but after Rudy came -- that stuff was gone.