Trump signs order renaming Lake Ontario as 'Lake America' in the United States

[cato potatoe]

For what it’s worth, Mark Carney has a 60% approval rating.  We could have a friendly neighbor in Pierre Poilievre, but Donald completely destroyed his 25 point lead a couple of months before the election.  Nothing about this “messing with” Canada makes any sense, and just proves the Republicans are a bunch of sissies for not doing anything to stop it.

[Wingnut]

Screw Carney. “What are they gonna do? Take their 2 submarines from the Edmonton Mall and sic them on us?”

[jmyrlefuller]

Yeah, Trump's pretty evil.  Thanks for clearing that up.

Keep in mind, he's just the symptom, the disease is the system that let this happen in the first place.

[the OlLine Rebel]

By whose authority was this named in the first place?

BTW, that lake is now named geographically correct as it resides in America, not just Ontario.

Wow you guys are pedantic.

And just why does THIS lake get to be called America?  Why not the others of the HOMES Great Lakes?

[the OlLine Rebel]

He can troll all he likes, just don't use the government to do it.

This isn't hurting anyone he's actually targeting. His orders have no effect on Canada, but we Americans have to deal with this abuse of the system. Especially considering that Google is lying down without any resistance.

The closest thing we have to any sort of direct precedent to this kind of chicanery is the Mount McKinley / Denali dispute. In that case, both names have been recognized for decades, and it could go either way. Nobody ever called Lake Ontario "Lake America" until Trump made it up, despite efforts to generate a fake AI French map that's been floating around as damage control. No one called the Gulf of Mexico "Gulf of America" until Trump made it up.

You want to blame corporate branding changes? When was Aunt Jemima ordered to change by executive order? Please. The only time there was ever a meddling in a corporate brand change was when the Trademark Board canceled the Washington Redskins, and I dare you to take a look at who was President when that decision was made (hint: not Obama or Biden).

And as much as we may disagree with the changes to places like Fort Bragg, at least there was a reason as much as one might disagree with the motive.

Right now, we're dealing with something bordering on Orwellian, a President who has discovered he can simply take the stroke of a pen and rewrite the map, just because he says so, with no rhyme or reason. We, as conservatives, ought to be upset! How did we end up letting one person have this much authority over something so integral to our daily lives, with no check or balance? It's pure madness. It's like taking a child's doodlings with a crayon and making it the binding law of the land. How did we get to this point?

Totally with you here.

And again, it’s all the EO…which ironically, as tyrannical as they can be, can easily be undone by the next.

Some things I like that Trump did, such as another decades old EO being erased (now I can’t remember what it was, but had something to do with black activism).  Again, ironic, how he can erase another paper-thin EO bit of tyranny so easily.

[Smokin Joe]

It was the Iroquois, in which their word "oniataríio" means “lake of shining waters.”

https://cgll.org/great-lakes/

So the whole province is a lake of shining waters, too?

Yeah, well....

[Smokin Joe]

Keep in mind, he's just the symptom, the disease is the system that let this happen in the first place.

This is just trolling.

You want disease, look at Seattle, with junkies shooting up on the streets, or California's insanity, or New York City. Somewhere, though, at the root of all this is our Constitution. Is that the disease of which you speak? Because the alternatives are far worse.

[Wingnut]

My Give a Damn gave up and left. 

Screw Canada.  The Hosers need to Take Off.

[mountaineer]

So the whole province is a lake of shining waters, too?

Great, now I have a Hamm's beer commercial running through my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8njwKklop_w

[IsailedawayfromFR]

https://truthsocial.com/@CitizenFreePress/posts/117197226170525860

[jmyrlefuller]

https://truthsocial.com/@CitizenFreePress/posts/117197226170525860

OK, that one made me laugh.

[Wingnut]

Great, now I have a Hamm's beer commercial running through my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8njwKklop_w

From the land of skyblue waters....
Growing up in the Midwest in the 60's we loved the Hamm's commercials.
Most of real America had reginal brewery's selling great beers.  Particularly in Wisc and MN.  Fitgers. Leinenkugel , Grain Belt, Old Style, Point, Reinlander, Blatz, PBR. 

[Cyber Liberty]

From the land of skyblue waters....
Growing up in the Midwest in the 60's we loved the Hamm's commercials.
Most of real America had reginal brewery's selling great beers.  Particularly in Wisc and MN.  Fitgers. Leinenkugel , Grain Belt, Old Style, Point, Reinlander, Blatz, PBR.

Fallstaff...

[berdie]

Great, now I have a Hamm's beer commercial running through my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8njwKklop_w

That was some brilliant marketing. After all these years I can still remember that song.

[Wingnut]

Fallstaff...

Yep.  Them too!.  I drank a few.  69 cents a six pack.  You get the runs for what you pay.

[mountaineer]

Kevin Pacitti 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇬🇧
@kpac_15
Remember (6 years ago) when Justin Trudeau’s Principal Secretary and BFF Gerry Butts shared Ian Bremmer, President of the Eurasia Groups, renamed map of the US.

Spare me all your fake outrage now.

Texas- White Congo
Southern US- Christian Iraq
Alaska-Rape Central
Arizona- Scared Rednecks
Kentucky- Whiter Congo
New Jersey- Douchebag Central
Maine- Shitty Nova Scotia
Kansas- Brown Backistan
Missouri- Hell
Illinois- Semi Hell
Michigan- Cold Hell
Wisconsin- Drunk Drivers

2:10 AM · Sep 3, 2026

[catfish1957]

Canucks are threatening to cut off electricity to the northern US

Am I the only one thinking this is an act of war? 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Kevin Pacitti 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇬🇧
@kpac_15
Remember (6 years ago) when Justin Trudeau’s Principal Secretary and BFF Gerry Butts shared Ian Bremmer, President of the Eurasia Groups, renamed map of the US.

Spare me all your fake outrage now.

Texas- White Congo
Southern US- Christian Iraq
Alaska-Rape Central
Arizona- Scared Rednecks
Kentucky- Whiter Congo
New Jersey- Douchebag Central
Maine- Shitty Nova Scotia
Kansas- Brown Backistan
Missouri- Hell
Illinois- Semi Hell
Michigan- Cold Hell
Wisconsin- Drunk Drivers

2:10 AM · Sep 3, 2026

Hell for me is Arizona, due to the heat though.

[Wingnut]

Canucks are threatening to cut off electricity to the northern US

Am I the only one thinking this is an act of war?

I say We should invade their Capital, Toronto.

Carney: The capital is Ottawa.

Trump: Yeah, right. Do we look that stupid? Ottawa!  Nice try Hose head.! Take Off.

[MeganC]

I say We should invade their Capital, Toronto.

Carney: The capital is Ottawa.

Trump: Yeah, right. Do we look that stupid? Ottawa!  Nice try Hose head.! Take Off.

No, The US won the War of 1812 when we made Canada keep Quebec. Why mess with a good thing?

[jmyrlefuller]

Kevin Pacitti 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇬🇧
@kpac_15
Remember (6 years ago) when Justin Trudeau’s Principal Secretary and BFF Gerry Butts shared Ian Bremmer, President of the Eurasia Groups, renamed map of the US.

Good Lord, the false equivalency. "He retweeted something" is nowhere near on par with "he used an executive order to force the government and strongarm all the major Big Tech corporations into changing the name of a lake that's never been called anything else in 400 years to a name never used before, for no reason other than being drunk on his own power."

[mountaineer]

Good Lord, the false equivalency. "He retweeted something" is nowhere near on par with "he used an executive order to force the government and strongarm all the major Big Tech corporations into changing the name of a lake that's never been called anything else in 400 years to a name never used before, for no reason other than being drunk on his own power."

I think it was tongue in cheek. But the truth is that Lake Ontario has been known by other names, including Frontenac and St. Louis. So the Canadians' insistence on "Ontario, now and forever" is a bit disingenuous. This does not mean I support what Trump did.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Canucks are threatening to cut off electricity to the northern US

Am I the only one thinking this is an act of war?

The war is between provinces.  They want to cutoff oil and gas to Ontario.  See map.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=587623.msg3346644#msg3346644

[MeganC]

Canucks are threatening to cut off electricity to the northern US

Am I the only one thinking this is an act of war?

This is an act of a sovereign country. They are free to do as they wish.

So are we.

And we can retaliate by banning Canadians from access to US healthcare. 

[MeganC]

Good Lord, the false equivalency. "He retweeted something" is nowhere near on par with "he used an executive order to force the government and strongarm all the major Big Tech corporations into changing the name of a lake that's never been called anything else in 400 years to a name never used before, for no reason other than being drunk on his own power."

Not so many years ago there were places in California called "bleep Bar", "bleep Slough", and "bleep Pond". All near Sacramento. At the time they were named the names were ubiquitous.

Only later did some folks find offense at the names at which point they were changed.

The name "Lake Ontario" is to me horribly offensive and I thank President Trump for being sensitive and caring enough to rename it to something more acceptable. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

No, The US won the War of 1812

Now there's a contention that is up for debate...

[MeganC]

Now there's a contention that is up for debate...

Well, after that the British and French left our ships alone and since that issue was the casus belli then, yes, we won.

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, after that the British and French left our ships alone and since that issue was the casus belli then, yes, we won.

That's correct.  Some disputed land went to England (present day Canada) and some went to the US as Territories.  More importantly, the British and French stopped raiding our ships to Impress our Sailors, which started the War of 1812!

[MeganC]

That's correct.  Some disputed land went to England (present day Canada) and some went to the US as Territories.  More importantly, the British and French stopped raiding our ships to Impress our Sailors, which started the War of 1812!

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

The Treaty of Ghent restored the pre-war territorial status quo and did not settle the maritime issues that had contributed to the war.[25] Impressment largely ceased after 1815 because the end of the Napoleonic Wars removed Britain's wartime manpower emergency, but Britain did not formally renounce its wider maritime claims in the treaty. Later Anglo-American disputes over the stopping, visiting, searching, and seizure of American vessels continued in narrower contexts, especially anti-slave-trade enforcement, and rare American allegations of post-war impressment appeared in diplomatic correspondence in the 1820s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

  Draw I think, which was my understanding.

[Cyber Liberty]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

  Draw I think, which was my understanding.

I think that is a very fair assessment of how that war ended...with a whimper.  After the impressment gangs ended, there was residual resentment over things like the Brits putting DC to the torch. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

[Smokin Joe]

Canucks are threatening to cut off electricity to the northern US

Am I the only one thinking this is an act of war?

Well, North Dakota sells electricity to Canada, among others. (we make twice as much as we need). Two can play that...

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Imagine the idiocy, on both sides, of turning away paying customers... then having the gall to complain about the economy.

Stupidity.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Imagine the idiocy, on both sides, of turning away paying customers... then having the gall to complain about the economy.

Stupidity.

Hmm.

Canada would not certify American made Gulfstreams, while we have been permiting Canada to sell us Canadian made Bombadiers.
 
And you think that we are the idiots for cutting off paying customers?

Please explain why you think so.

[MeganC]

Hmm.

Canada would not certify American made Gulfstreams, while we have been permiting Canada to sell us Canadian made Bombadiers.
 
And you think that we are the idiots for cutting off paying customers?

Please explain why you think so.

Agreed. Canada has sanctioned us for decades. It is time for them to have a taste of their own medicine.

[NavyCanDo]

Now Trump is toying with the idea of renaming New Mexico.    Just trolling, likely, but I do believe he thinks he can do it and his loyal followers will cheer him on.   

[MeganC]

Now Trump is toying with the idea of renaming New Mexico.    Just trolling, likely, but I do believe he things he camps do it and his loyal followers will cheer him on.

It's all a distraction from something else he's up to.

[NavyCanDo]

I’ve defended him time and time again, but it’s getting much harder to do so.   I’m afraid the closer it gets to the end of his term, the more outlandish his attempts at building a lasting legacy will be.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

It's all a distraction from something else he's up to.

Some superficially react without being able to understand what is going on behind the scenes.

[Wingnut]

I just want to point out since the Gulf was renamed o the Gulf of America not a single 'Cane has been there.  Ergo, there will be no more ships lost on Lake America.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It's all a distraction from something else he's up to.

That or senility. His personality was very different years ago...

[MeganC]

That or senility. His personality was very different years ago...

Years of dealing with Communists and backstabbers takes a toll.

[jmyrlefuller]

That or senility. His personality was very different years ago...

Senility? Maybe. I don't think that's as huge of an issue as it is with Biden, but the lower inhibitions might be slightly influenced by age.

I think it's more that he's a lame duck and just doesn't really care much anymore.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Senility? Maybe. I don't think that's as huge of an issue as it is with Biden, but the lower inhibitions might be slightly influenced by age.

I think it's more that he's a lame duck and just doesn't really care much anymore.

Look at a 1990-era interview with Trump. way different personality, way more toned down.

[jmyrlefuller]

It's all a distraction from something else he's up to.

I don't really get this idea. 1, what could possibly be that big that it would require a distraction, and 2, when has that idea ever been borne out in the past? The whole idea of "something bigger going on behind the scenes" seems Qanon-ey.

[Cyber Liberty]

Years of dealing with Communists and backstabbers takes a toll.

I can't blame Trump for getting testy, I'd be too!  Let him troll the lefties.  How many times have they tried to kill him?  I saw the attempt at Butler, and I am convinced that was the hand of God that saved him!  I witnessed a miracle when he turned his head at that exact moment....