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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #1 on: Sunday, Aug 23, 2026 03:39 pm »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure Please post an excerpt with your posted articles. I had this issue with @American Girl before you....
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #2 on: Sunday, Aug 23, 2026 04:27 pm »

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday, Aug 23, 2026 04:38 pm »
You are a yankee....well that explains a lot.  happy77

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #4 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 04:49 am »
She figured all the cool kids are doing it these days. Josh Shapiro is a cool kid?
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #5 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 04:57 am »
New England has a tight electricity and a tight natural gas market constrained by bad Government policy.

The best places for data centers are in gas, oil, and coal producing areas ... instead of farm-to-table ... it's well-to-server ... preferrably all intra-state so NIMBY states don't drop turds in the punchbowl.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #6 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 05:35 am »
Reminder: China is behind anti-data center hysteria in America.

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DATA CENTERS: The CCP's cutout for a large share of anti-data-center propaganda in America is Shanghai-based billionaire Neville Roy Singham. According to multiple sources, the DOJ is closing in, culminating in a grand jury in New York City hearing evidence of his crimes.
9:03 AM · Aug 24, 2026
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Expert explains CCP's strategy following DOJ inquiry of billionaire Neville Roy Singham
by The National News Desk
Wed, July 1, 2026 at 4:55 PM

WASHINGTON (TNND) — A federal grand jury in Manhattan has been impaneled to investigate Neville Roy Singham, an American tech billionaire living in China, over allegations that he funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into a network of Marxist, socialist and pro-Beijing activist groups across the United States.

The Department of Justice investigation is focused on allegations that money moved through groups including Code Pink and the People’s Forum, among others. Critics say the organizations push narratives that defend the Chinese Communist Party and fuel protests aimed at advancing a critical perspective on China.

China expert Gordon Chang told The National News Desk the alleged activity fits what he described as the Chinese Communist Party’s “united front” strategy.  ...

 Chang said Singham has promoted “socialism and communism,” and also worked to oppose data centers, including through his wife, Jody Evans, whom Chang identified as a co-founder of Code Pink.  ...
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #7 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 05:46 am »
Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers

Too bad she doesn't support government living within its means.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #8 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 05:46 am »
Reminder: China is behind anti-data center hysteria in America.

Spot on.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #9 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 06:20 am »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure Please post an excerpt with your posted articles. I had this issue with @American Girl before you....



https://www.nhpr.org/politics/2026-08-21/data-centers-ayotte-supports-moratorium-datacenters-nh

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Gov. Kelly Ayotte said she now supports a moratorium on data centers in the Granite State.

“It does not make sense at all to site a data center in New Hampshire,” Ayotte said Aug. 20, in response to a question at the Rotary Club of Portsmouth. “We don't have the energy for it. It is not the appropriate location. I would support a moratorium on them because right now they do not make sense at all in terms of energy, environment or location.”

    Waste Management owns most of the property in Rochester's Recycling Industrial zone. City officials are proposing an ordinance limiting data centers to locating in this zone, hoping that would effectively block them. (Foster's Daily Democrat file photo)
    Rochester residents voice opposition to data centers

Ayotte, invited to speak before the club, took a question from a Rotarian concerned about the potential impacts of a large data center in New Hampshire. The governor recounted a conversation she had with the head of ISO New England in which she asked how data centers could alter energy costs for ratepayers.
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Like others, I beleive we are again a victim of Chicom misdirection and propaganda.   The fact even our GOP legislators are buying into this ruse, is frightening,.  China NEEDS to win this race for world domination.,   No matter what the tactics are.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #10 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 06:31 am »
Reminder: China is behind anti-data center hysteria in America.

@amuse
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DATA CENTERS: The CCP's cutout for a large share of anti-data-center propaganda in America is Shanghai-based billionaire Neville Roy Singham. According to multiple sources, the DOJ is closing in, culminating in a grand jury in New York City hearing evidence of his crimes.
9:03 AM · Aug 24, 2026

I find the China propaganda thing dubious. Sounds like smokescreen to distract from what they're really doing. Most people I run into don't like them, aren't leftists, and aren't in touch with China.

The problem is that the number they want to build is way more processing power needed for simply retail transactions. If people like digital currency and social credit scoring, and constant FLOCK camera drone surveillance, by all means.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #11 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 06:45 am »
I find the China propaganda thing dubious. Sounds like smokescreen to distract from what they're really doing. Most people I run into don't like them, aren't leftists, and aren't in touch with China.

The problem is that the number they want to build is way more processing power needed for simply retail transactions. If people like digital currency and social credit scoring, and constant FLOCK camera drone surveillance, by all means.

Buddy, you are spot on, on all counts.  The whole "China" part is a self-serving ruse to make people afraid to express their inherent displeasure for the build out.  And you are exactly correct about the reasons for the massive data center requirement.  The whole “national security” meme is also bogus, the Pentagon and its AI contractors have more than enough processing capacity for their planned projects, they would be idiots if they were depending on this build out.

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #12 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 06:51 am »
I find the China propaganda thing dubious. Sounds like smokescreen to distract from what they're really doing. Most people I run into don't like them, aren't leftists, and aren't in touch with China.

The problem is that the number they want to build is way more processing power needed for simply retail transactions. If people like digital currency and social credit scoring, and constant FLOCK camera drone surveillance, by all means.

Shouldn't this be left up to the local governments?  After all, they are the ones charged with regulating land use.  Do we really need the federal government telling local governments what they can and can't do?  I seem to recall a time when Republicans demanded less government, not more government.  What in the hell happened?
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #13 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:23 am »
Shouldn't this be left up to the local governments?  After all, they are the ones charged with regulating land use.  Do we really need the federal government telling local governments what they can and can't do?  I seem to recall a time when Republicans demanded less government, not more government.  What in the hell happened?

Except the end product won't be a local thing, but a national one. The local govts will give into the money, then when it's set up it will be the old bait-and-switcharooney. By then it will be too late to stop it.

It's gonna happen and China will make a killing off equipment sales, plus have a nation that's completely neutered with a surveillance state/social credit system and no longer a threat to their ambitions. That's why I'm suspect if the 'China propaganda' thing.

I'm simply playing John the Baptist and pointing out what's coming, so that those who wish to go their own way won't be part of it.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #14 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:26 am »
Shouldn't this be left up to the local governments?  After all, they are the ones charged with regulating land use.  Do we really need the federal government telling local governments what they can and can't do?  I seem to recall a time when Republicans demanded less government, not more government.  What in the hell happened?

This story is a good case in point.  It's a big story because we have a big shot US Senator butting into a State's business in a local zoning matter!  This is not, nor should be, a Federal matter.
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #15 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:41 am »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure Please post an excerpt with your posted articles. I had this issue with @American Girl before you....

Ok usually I post a link and my own thoughts. I never know how much to excerpt… don’t want to get the forum in trouble with copyright.

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« Reply #16 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:42 am »
Shouldn't this be left up to the local governments?  After all, they are the ones charged with regulating land use.  Do we really need the federal government telling local governments what they can and can't do?  I seem to recall a time when Republicans demanded less government, not more government.  What in the hell happened?

It’s not good enough for them, if a local government builds one right across town line from a government that doesn’t want from their pov it may have we’ll been built in their town anyway, if that makes sense. I agree btw.

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #17 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:45 am »
Shouldn't this be left up to the local governments?  After all, they are the ones charged with regulating land use.  Do we really need the federal government telling local governments what they can and can't do?  I seem to recall a time when Republicans demanded less government, not more government.  What in the hell happened?

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #18 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 07:55 am »
Ok usually I post a link and my own thoughts. I never know how much to excerpt… don’t want to get the forum in trouble with copyright.

We use the three paragraph rule, generally.  Well, I do anyway....
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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #19 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 08:00 am »
Conservatism morphed into a sort of liberalism that likes guns, dislikes immigrants and gays but agrees with liberals on everything else basically. Seemed to happen in the 2010s

When I left FR, I almost didn't join this site because of the "GOP" in the name.  I've been fed up with Republicans for some time....
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 08:46 am »
Conservatism morphed into a sort of liberalism that likes guns, dislikes immigrants and gays but agrees with liberals on everything else basically. Seemed to happen in the 2010s
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 09:37 am »
We use the three paragraph rule, generally.  Well, I do anyway....

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Re: Ayotte says she now supports a moratorium on data centers
« Reply #22 on: Monday, Aug 24, 2026 12:36 pm »
I'm with Vulcan and Art Prout as to the real "purpose" of all these data centers.

Some years ago, I made a comment to a friend: I told him that I really enjoyed the computers I have (all Macs), but that it would be "computers and computing" that made a real-world version of Orwell's 1984 possible.

And so it goes. Look around -- you don't have to look far -- and there's a flock camera looking back. Or it might be somebody else's camera, not flock. Could be the government's camera, or could be private surveillance (that the govt. could requisition). Shot-stoppers "listening". Hey, I'll bet the computer you're using has a camera that could be watching (mine doesn't). Or your phone, just have it on, and they can track you. I think they can even track you with the phone OFF. (I don't have a smart phone)

Another friend just told me at lunch together a few days ago how the utiliity company forced everyone to install "smart meters" for their electricity. No smart meter here (my house still has knob-and-tube wiring!).

And he mentioned the increasing electronic monitoring that's going into cars and trucks these days. How long before there's an internal camera in your car, watching?
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Back when I was running trains, the only camera on the engine was "forward facing", recording the track ahead. But now, engine cabs have INTERIOR cameras that are trained on the engineer all the time. How'd YOU like to work that way?

A Fishrrman "there he goes on a tangent again" prediction:
I think we'll see two futures for the data center boom:
1. ten years from now, a good number of them may be shut down, for lack of return on investment.
or
2. when the war between the red and the blue begins, these places will be the first to be blown up.

How does that hit ya...?