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CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
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CIA Director Gina Haspel was arrested after she was injured in the Frankfurt Germany CIA building raid to secure the servers.
The building had no guards and was unprotected. Haspel pulled in some private special military trained security forces to protect the building from such a suspected raid. When the raid happened Haspel was there.
5 of our special forces troops along with a CIA official were killed in the raid. Haspel was injured.
I try to get three confirmations of the soldiers being killed. I got two, but could not get a third. The CIA made up a cover story about the 5 soldiers and one cia operative killed and said they were killed in a helicopter crash.
Haspel was air evacuated out. She was flown to GITMO where she was treated and received a tribunal for treason. She agreed to help trump for a lighter sentence of life which can be revoked if she chooses to not cooperate. She has now turned over information on the servers, what they were for and what they did and who was involved.
There have been many flown into GITMO because that is where they are interrogating these deep state actors. GITMO is full so they can’t be imprisoned there. Some may be executed at GITMO. Hasple will not be one of them because she has agreed to help Trump in testifying as to what the CIA did and when.
It is unknown how badly she was injured in the raid. She made depositions at Gitmo and a video confession.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmoZ5HoWMQ0&feature=emb_logo#)
NOTE: It's the 305th battalion, not the 503rd. he makes the correction in the video at the 5:04 mark (based out of Arizona)
http://darkoutpost.com/conspiracies/cia-director-gina-haspel-arrested-for-treason/?fbclid=IwAR3iecEwQZ2gqQMsFS8-nHGUR9JC7hMJUxgLMN6dJLSjv9v9RPun2M2wQxE (http://darkoutpost.com/conspiracies/cia-director-gina-haspel-arrested-for-treason/?fbclid=IwAR3iecEwQZ2gqQMsFS8-nHGUR9JC7hMJUxgLMN6dJLSjv9v9RPun2M2wQxE)
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Q Drop?
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Where am I?
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Q Drop?
Not a "Q Drop".
The claim explained in the video says that the reason 5 of our forces were KIA is because Haspel's bodyguard was virtually the only one who fought...everybody else surrendered.
Also claimed: Pres. Trump knew each of the 5 KIA and was very upset about it. On the way to taking a possibly injured Haspel to GITMO, she started singing like a songbird in an attempt to "make a deal".
This is what Pres. Trump meant in his recent statement that "We've caught them all!"
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Where am I?
2+2=4 @Wingnut
Michael Flynn Promotes Petition Calling On Trump To Suspend The Constitution And Declare Martial Law
Former national security adviser Michael Flynn promoted a petition Tuesday calling on President Donald Trump to temporarily suspend the U.S. Constitution, declare martial law and order the military to oversee a national re-vote for the 2020 presidential election.
The petition, published Tuesday by the Ohio-based non-profit group We The People Convention, said there was “no peaceful way left to preserve our Union†following President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory and urged Trump to exercise his “extraordinary authority†to avert a second civil war.
“Limited Martial Law is clearly a better option than Civil War!†a letter accompanying the petition states.
Flynn, to whom Trump granted a presidential pardon last Wednesday related to the retired Army general’s December 2017 guilty plea for making false statements to the FBI, tweeted a link to the petition Tuesday evening.
http://dailycaller.com/2020/12/02/michael-flynn-petition-trump-martial-law/?fbclid=IwAR3Q02dEt0CVBVd-1dWXsAJrkhjde3kUitS6hc3I9w0l4HYdDvSGcKO7RP8 (http://dailycaller.com/2020/12/02/michael-flynn-petition-trump-martial-law/?fbclid=IwAR3Q02dEt0CVBVd-1dWXsAJrkhjde3kUitS6hc3I9w0l4HYdDvSGcKO7RP8)
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Lol ill wait till its on the next news network to verify :rolling:
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Sturm und drang with some BS.
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Lol ill wait till its on the next news network to verify :rolling:
You mean like they're carrying the Arizona hearings? /S
Buckle up nice and tight, Mike @sinkspur :laugh:
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2+2=4 @Wingnut
Michael Flynn Promotes Petition Calling On Trump To Suspend The Constitution And Declare Martial Law
Former national security adviser Michael Flynn promoted a petition Tuesday calling on President Donald Trump to temporarily suspend the U.S. Constitution, declare martial law and order the military to oversee a national re-vote for the 2020 presidential election.
The petition, published Tuesday by the Ohio-based non-profit group We The People Convention, said there was “no peaceful way left to preserve our Union†following President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory and urged Trump to exercise his “extraordinary authority†to avert a second civil war.
“Limited Martial Law is clearly a better option than Civil War!†a letter accompanying the petition states.
Flynn, to whom Trump granted a presidential pardon last Wednesday related to the retired Army general’s December 2017 guilty plea for making false statements to the FBI, tweeted a link to the petition Tuesday evening.
http://dailycaller.com/2020/12/02/michael-flynn-petition-trump-martial-law/?fbclid=IwAR3Q02dEt0CVBVd-1dWXsAJrkhjde3kUitS6hc3I9w0l4HYdDvSGcKO7RP8 (http://dailycaller.com/2020/12/02/michael-flynn-petition-trump-martial-law/?fbclid=IwAR3Q02dEt0CVBVd-1dWXsAJrkhjde3kUitS6hc3I9w0l4HYdDvSGcKO7RP8)
Promoted a petition? We'll see. Personally, with Flynn just being pardoned, I'd think he may have a discussion about this with
Trump and not start a petition. If Trump decides to declare martial law, it won't be because of a petition, it will be because he's making that call.
I would be very surprised if Trump were to do this.
A do over election? Does the Constitution allow for this??
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Promoted a petition? We'll see. Personally, with Flynn just being pardoned, I'd think he may have a discussion about this with
Trump and not start a petition. If Trump decides to declare martial law, it won't be because of a petition, it will be because he's making that call.
I would be very surprised if Trump were to do this.
A do over election? Does the Constitution allow for this??
If it's proven that Gina Haspel was indeed injured during a gun battle in Frankfort in her attempts to destroy/remove the Election Servers?
As Sarah Palin once said: "You Betcha!"
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Fake new bullshit, DC.
In other news, you ready for our boxing match?
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Promoted a petition? We'll see. Personally, with Flynn just being pardoned, I'd think he may have a discussion about this with
Trump and not start a petition. If Trump decides to declare martial law, it won't be because of a petition, it will be because he's making that call.
I would be very surprised if Trump were to do this.
A do over election? Does the Constitution allow for this??
Flynn is a kook and so is Lin wood or whatever the bleep his name is...
There will be no Trump crowning himself emperor moment.
DC still wants to fight me.
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This story is astounding.
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This story is astounding bullshit.
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FTFY
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This story is astounding.
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@Cyber Liberty
It certainly is.
But given what's going on around us, it's completely plausible.
1) Nobody has seen or heard from or about her whereabouts.
2) President Trump recently said publicly that "We've caught them all!" and "You're all going to love the way this ends!"
3) John Brennan is losing his mind publicly...fretting about POTUS.
IMO, it if all true, it will make a fitting climax to an incredible 4 years of treasonous behavior by the Left and their allies in the media complex as well as our FBI, CIA and DOJ.
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FTFY
Sez you. Why you hang around with a bunch of "conservative" "idiots" is beyond me.
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Sez you. Why you hang around with a bunch of "conservative" "idiots" is beyond me.
Not all of you are.
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Sez you. Why you hang around with a bunch of "conservative" "idiots" is beyond me.
The little pr*ck gets sexually aroused every time it seems POTUS gets boxed in.
Then as Pres. Trump continuously escapes, he runs to the neutral corner.
It's laughable.
I wonder where he'll have his next birthday party, now that Chuck E. Cheese has gone belly up...
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The little pr*ck gets sexually aroused every time it seems POTUS gets boxed in.
You're a creepy old man, DC. Shame on you. No wonder your kids hate you.
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This story is astounding.
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Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel....
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Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel....
LOL! I was thinking Robert Ludlum :beer:
The Chancellor Manuscript or Gemini Contenders are both old favorites of mine.
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And Barr knows nothing about this (if it were true)?
How can that be?
So all she has to do is do an interview to kill the story.
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And Barr knows nothing about this (if it were true)?
How can that be?
So all she has to do is do an interview to kill the story.
The story goes that this is high-end DOD .. Which would put Barr out of the loop.
But yeah, all it takes is for her to appear and this is shot right down.
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The story goes that this is high-end DOD .. Which would put Barr out of the loop.
But yeah, all it takes is for her to appear and this is shot right down.
And yet...she hasn't. :shrug:
No tweets declaring "It's fake news". Not from a single person in the CIA/FBI or DOD!
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And Barr knows nothing about this (if it were true)?
How can that be?
So all she has to do is do an interview to kill the story.
@DB
Oh...you can be damned sure he knows.
Barr was summoned to the White House a few days ago for an hours' long meeting with POTUS.
Now it DOES make perfect sense that he'd come out and claim there's no evidence strong enough to overturn the election.
I'll bet the NSA is working overtime listening in to certain peoples' communication devices.
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And yet...she hasn't. :shrug:
No tweets declaring "It's fake news". Not from a single person in the CIA/FBI or DOD!
And by the same token, not a single journalist outside of the rabidly right tinfoil sect willing to make their career... Not a single editor's desk out to break the story of the century... As much as the left cried Russia, Russia, Russia, now the right cries China, China, China... It seems so familiar.
This is a game changer - a life changing moment for a reporter... And not a peep from any indisputably legit sort of any kind.
It stinks from both directions.
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And by the same token, not a single journalist outside of the rabidly right tinfoil sect willing to make their career... Not a single editor's desk out to break the story of the century... As much as the left cried Russia, Russia, Russia, now the right cries China, China, China... It seems so familiar.
This is a game changer - a life changing moment for a reporter... And not a peep from any indisputably legit sort of any kind.
It stinks from both directions.
It would make perfect sense that no reporter has stepped forward to take advantage of this...noting James O'Keefe's dropping the 'Ace of Trump' on Zucker's head in the middle of one of the 'private' meetings in their smoky backroom.
The serious journalists have been cowered by their boardroom police since Pres. Trump rode that escalator as a private citizen.
Nobody wants to be 'Spartacus' first. Especially showing that they can ignore/bury any story they wish.
My God, man... look at the way they ignored/buried the Biden family corruption while at the same time driving a Presidential Impeachment over a perfectly legitimate phone call to the Ukraine.
Story of the century? More like the story of the millennia.
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Rumors Fly That Server Seized In Raid Shows Trump Actually Got 410 Electoral Votes; Media Panics (https://allenwest.club/2020/11/22/rumors-fly-that-server-seized-in-raid-shows-trump-actually-got-410-electoral-votes-media-panics/)
Rumors began flying today that President Trump not only won, but won big.
410 electoral votes big.
That is, according to a server that was allegedly seized in a raid this week from overseas.
Sidney Powell gave the rumor even more life in the interview bleow.
She says it without any qualifications, quote: “this was massive, criminal voter fraud on a national level…..it’s going to blow the mind of everyone in this country when we release the info.â€...
Much more at above link.
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I don't know what's true and what isn't but I can tell you that I find it MUCH easier to believe this than believing Biden won anything!
@DCPatriot
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I don't know what's true and what isn't but I can tell you that I find it MUCH easier to believe this than believing Biden won anything!
@DCPatriot
@Bigun
The very same here, my friend.
Consider all it would take to put this to bed is for Ms. Haspel to say something. Only reinforces the notion that it's all true and she's either in GITMO, or in an induced coma at a European black-site.
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@Bigun
The very same here, my friend.
Consider all it would take to put this to bed is for Ms. Haspel to say something. Only reinforces the notion that it's all true and she's either in GITMO, or in an induced coma at a European black-site.
I don't see why she would do that. It benefits the Rats to keep this to "conspiracy theory" level so we can be labeled "kooks."
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The serious journalists have been cowered by their boardroom police since Pres. Trump rode that escalator as a private citizen.
Nonsense.
Nobody wants to be 'Spartacus' first. Especially showing that they can ignore/bury any story they wish.
That goes directly against every journalistic reflex - Everyone wants to be the one that breaks a story.
My God, man... look at the way they ignored/buried the Biden family corruption while at the same time driving a Presidential Impeachment over a perfectly legitimate phone call to the Ukraine.
Or the story does not have the chops that the right believes - The difference being that you believe the propaganda from the right... I don't believe any of them, right or left.
Story of the century? More like the story of the millennia.
Damn straight. And not a peep. Makes me wonder at the veracity of the tale.
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I don't see why she would do that. It benefits the Rats to keep this to "conspiracy theory" level so we can be labeled "kooks."
The hatred as red-hot as it is?? They would JUMP at the chance to shut the Republicans up today. Not tomorrow. Today!!
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Nonsense.
That goes directly against every journalistic reflex - Everyone wants to be the one that breaks a story.
Or the story does not have the chops that the right believes - The difference being that you believe the propaganda from the right... I don't believe any of them, right or left.
Damn straight. And not a peep. Makes me wonder at the veracity of the tale.
LOL! @roamer_1
The Dogma is very strong in both of us! :beer:
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LOL! @roamer_1
The Dogma is very strong in both of us! :beer:
@DCPatriot
I am pullin for y'all, I really am...IF there is massive corruption, I certainly want it exposed. I am just rather uninterested in twitterpation, preferring that which can be proven... As in a court of law.
My kin on my mother's side, a whole bunch of them, are from Missouri... SHOW ME. :laugh:
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John Cardillo @johncardillo
Spoiler: Gina Haspel wasn’t shot in a firefight between Delta and CIA in Germany because its batshit insane to believe that Delta and CIA got into a shootout in Germany while the Director was personally destroying servers.
God help us that people believe this insanity.
10:23 AM · Dec 4, 2020·
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1334880938912837632
Cardillo is a former NYPD officer. This is from his Twitter feed.
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https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1334880938912837632
Cardillo is a former NYPD officer. This is from his Twitter feed.
I am skeptical of this too, but wish the lady would at least make a supermarket appearance to put it to rest.
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Fake news. As I suspected.
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I am skeptical of this too, but wish the lady would at least make a supermarket appearance to put it to rest.
Maybe she's hiding out with Hunter Biden.
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https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1334880938912837632
Cardillo is a former NYPD officer. This is from his Twitter feed.
He seems astounded by what people will believe. Is Cardillo aware there are news networks dedicated for years to the the preposition the president is a Russian agent?
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Fake news. As I suspected.
Not any more fake than the news that Joe Biden was elected president!
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Not any more fake than the news that Joe Biden was elected president!
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He most likely will be elected, despite the election anomalies, because they're not going to throw out the number of votes required to change without proof. Meanwhile, I see no evidence of this crap.
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He most likely will be elected, despite the election anomalies, because they're not going to throw out the number of votes required to change without proof. Meanwhile, I see no evidence of this crap.
You have consistently said there was no evidence of cheating, then no evidence there was enough cheating. You have yet to comment on the security footage from Fulton County showing "workers" pulling large suitcases full of ballots from under tables and counting them, with a time stamp showing that counting happened during the hours they had "stopped counting" due to a ficticious plumbing leak.
There's all kinds of proof, and it's not anybody's fault but yours you refuse to look. :shrug:
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You have consistently said there was no evidence of cheating, then no evidence there was enough cheating. You have yet to comment on the security footage from Fulton County showing "workers" pulling large suitcases full of ballots from under tables and counting them, with a time stamp showing that counting happened during the hours they had "stopped counting" due to a ficticious plumbing leak.
There's all kinds of proof, and it's not anybody's fault but yours you refuse to look. :shrug:
'Big deal, there's no audio'. For some there'll never be enough evidence.
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You have consistently said there was no evidence of cheating, then no evidence there was enough cheating. You have yet to comment on the security footage from Fulton County showing "workers" pulling large suitcases full of ballots from under tables and counting them, with a time stamp showing that counting happened during the hours they had "stopped counting" due to a ficticious plumbing leak.
There's all kinds of proof, and it's not anybody's fault but yours you refuse to look. :shrug:
It ain't like that. All the evidence, or at least the preponderance of it is anecdotal. The brass ring is to prove organization... There is ALWAYS cheating. You can find five hundred instances, but until they are proven to be orchestrated, OR until it can be proven to be enough to tip the election, it remains anecdotal... Serving and prosecuting each of those is possible, but will not change a damn thing.
TWO THINGS:
Prove enough fraud to overturn the election.
And prove intent - Organized interstate intent. Because the ONLY way to prove enough fraud to overturn the election is to prove collusion across at least three states.
You can prove all of what happened in Georgia and it means nothing, because Georgia alone does not have enough electors to turn the election.
The same with Pennsylvania.
The same with Wisconsin.
The same with Michigan and Nevada and Arizona.
That's why my interest in Dominion was so intense. Because it is the only game that proves that interstate collusion that would INDEED offer enough electors to throw the deal.
Otherwise it's all just pissin in the wind.
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It ain't like that. All the evidence, or at least the preponderance of it is anecdotal. The brass ring is to prove organization... There is ALWAYS cheating. You can find five hundred instances, but until they are proven to be orchestrated, OR until it can be proven to be enough to tip the election, it remains anecdotal... Serving and prosecuting each of those is possible, but will not change a damn thing.
TWO THINGS:
Prove enough fraud to overturn the election.
And prove intent - Organized interstate intent. Because the ONLY way to prove enough fraud to overturn the election is to prove collusion across at least three states.
You can prove all of what happened in Georgia and it means nothing, because Georgia alone does not have enough electors to turn the election.
The same with Pennsylvania.
The same with Wisconsin.
The same with Michigan and Nevada and Arizona.
That's why my interest in Dominion was so intense. Because it is the only game that proves that interstate collusion that would INDEED offer enough electors to throw the deal.
Otherwise it's all just pissin in the wind.
Do you think the security camera video is faked? That scores of witnesses signed statements under penalty of perjury are lying? There are no voting precincts reporting more votes than voters?
Evidence you've demanded is now being presented because they're in the proper venues to do so, and the "no evidence" dodge is becoming more and more untenable. When do you plan on seeing it, if ever?
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Do you think the security camera video is faked? That scores of witnesses signed statements under penalty of perjury are lying? There are no voting precincts reporting more votes than voters?
Evidence you've demanded is now being presented because they're in the proper venues to do so, and the "no evidence" dodge is becoming more and more untenable. When do you plan on seeing it, if ever?
All that needs to be done is enough doubt generated for 31 Biden electors be withheld. GA is 16. 15 more to go.
There is plenty of evidence - the question s/b is there enough courage.
BTW according to the time stamp on the GA tape the people left the room at the exact time of the water line break, counting of the bogus ballot started ten minutes later.
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Do you think the security camera video is faked? That scores of witnesses signed statements under penalty of perjury are lying? There are no voting precincts reporting more votes than voters?
Evidence you've demanded is now being presented because they're in the proper venues to do so, and the "no evidence" dodge is becoming more and more untenable. When do you plan on seeing it, if ever?
No, I have said all the way along that there was cheating, and i did indeed back the idea of massive organized cheating - but it has to be proven. ALL of it proven and connected.
*JUST GEORGIA* Say you prove is all the way up to the state elections board. Say you prove collusion all the way up. How many electors does Georgia own? Are they alone enough to overturn the election?
No, they are not. So precinct captains and workers may go to jail... Hell even the election board and administration might go to jail... And hooray for that. But it ain't enough to over turn the election.
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You have consistently said there was no evidence of cheating
I haven't said that, but no hard evidence has been shown... and don't you think if Trump's legal team had some it would be presented? There were clearly anomalies... without a doubt, they should be investigated, and if fraud is found, perpetrators should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and votes should be thrown out if they're fraudulent. But i've seen no hard evidence so far, and neither has the courts from what I've seen.
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All that needs to be done is enough doubt generated for 31 Biden electors be withheld. GA is 16. 15 more to go.
There is plenty of evidence - the question s/b is there enough courage.
You don't get it.
You have to prove intentional fraud ACROSS states to have enough to overturn the election.
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You don't get it.
You have to prove intentional fraud ACROSS states to have enough to overturn the election.
State legislatures have to have proof of fraud across states to withhold their own electors?
I guess I don't get it.
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No, I have said all the way along that there was cheating, and i did indeed back the idea of massive organized cheating - but it has to be proven. ALL of it proven and connected.
*JUST GEORGIA* Say you prove is all the way up to the state elections board. Say you prove collusion all the way up. How many electors does Georgia own? Are they alone enough to overturn the election?
No, they are not. So precinct captains and workers may go to jail... Hell even the election board and administration might go to jail... And hooray for that. But it ain't enough to over turn the election.
To say *JUST GEORGIA* is presenting just another version of "not enough to matter." One would have to ignore the other states where solid evidence of fraud is being revealed.
Doesn't require running the table, but I think there will be enough states with irreparable ballot fraud.
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State legislatures have to have proof of fraud across states to withhold their own electors?
I guess I don't get it.
Sure they can. But getting multiple states to do that at once is an insane hail mary.
Hell, getting the Scotus to call it is hail-mary enough.
Your talking about overturning three to five state elections. That's the very hard way, and you might as well shoot at the moon.
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I'm just going to wait to see what happens.
I have no control of the situation and where this goes could be anywhere.
Just one major breach and the rest may follow.
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I haven't said that, but no hard evidence has been shown... and don't you think if Trump's legal team had some it would be presented? There were clearly anomalies... without a doubt, they should be investigated, and if fraud is found, perpetrators should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and votes should be thrown out if they're fraudulent. But i've seen no hard evidence so far, and neither has the courts from what I've seen.
All you are doing in this post is proving that you will never see "hard evidence" because you refuse to look. The longer you cover your eyes and stop up your ears, the more obvious it becomes you just want the Bad Orange Man out, even if means a total socialist takeover of the country.
A 21st Century version of "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
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To say *JUST GEORGIA* is presenting just another version of "not enough to matter." One would have to ignore the other states where solid evidence of fraud is being revealed.
Doesn't require running the table, but I think there will be enough states with irreparable ballot fraud.
Until you can prove intentional collusion across state lines you cannot prove enough to overturn the election. Each states stands alone. Each state without enough to overturn the election. You have to prove it across enough jurisdictions to tie them TOGETHER to get enough electors in play to overturn.
Not Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
But Georgia AND Michigan AND Pennsylvania... Together.
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Until you can prove intentional collusion across state lines you cannot prove enough to overturn the election. Each states stands alone. Each state without enough to overturn the election. You have to prove it across enough jurisdictions to tie them TOGETHER to get enough electors in play to overturn.
Not Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
But Georgia AND Michigan AND Pennsylvania... Together.
Why is collusion among more than one state necessary? It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary. It appears the goalposts are mobile.
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Why is collusion among more than one state necessary? It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary. It appears the goalposts are mobile.
There is circumstantial evidence of a conspiracy among states. Timing, methods and statistical patterns of fraud in the key states are very similar.
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Why is collusion among more than one state necessary? It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary. It appears the goalposts are mobile.
Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.
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All you are doing in this post is proving that you will never see "hard evidence" because you refuse to look. The longer you cover your eyes and stop up your ears, the more obvious it becomes you just want the Bad Orange Man out, even if means a total socialist takeover of the country.
A 21st Century version of "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
:shrug:
Anyway, it's not up to me, it's up to the legal system and state legislatures. IMO Trump's chances are about 1%, to pick a good even number
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Why is collusion among more than one state necessary? It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary. It appears the goalposts are mobile.
Interior to a state (which is its own sovereign self) prosecutions and convictions will ensue... And ballots will be negated as they try to fix it for themselves. The remedy within each state is to nullify their own election, which tosses that state to its legislatures to select electors - Which has nothing at all to do with the other respective states... So the electors are remedied and it is not enough to overturn the election. Unless you can pull that off in 3 to 5 states (or something like that), which is a crazy long play.
Tie enough states together in collusion, like Dominion does... Those state elections all being under the control of a single entity... That being the case, ALL the states effected by the fraud are tied together, which is certainly enough electors to overthrow the election... Which puts it in the scotus, the entire election being nullified, and all states respectively fall back to their legislatures on the order of the SCOTUS to pick their electors. And the physical election goes forward one way or another.
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Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.
One of the fraudsters in the Fulton County scheme on video has been identified. Probably the biggest fraudster...the black "woman with the blond braids." She's the one that ordered everybody out of the room because of the pipe leak, and has been captured on the video pulling pre-positioned suitcases full of ballots from under the tables.
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:shrug:
Anyway, it's not up to me, it's up to the legal system and state legislatures. IMO Trump's chances are about 1%, to pick a good even number
That correlates to the 99% chance you will declare Trump cheated to win if he pulls it out. :shrug:
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Interior to a state (which is its own sovereign self) prosecutions and convictions will ensue... And ballots will be negated as they try to fix it for themselves. The remedy within each state is to nullify their own election, which tosses that state to its legislatures to select electors - Which has nothing at all to do with the other respective states... So the electors are remedied and it is not enough to overturn the election. Unless you can pull that off in 3 to 5 states (or something like that), which is a crazy long play.
Tie enough states together in collusion, like Dominion does... Those state elections all being under the control of a single entity... That being the case, ALL the states effected by the fraud are tied together, which is certainly enough electors to overthrow the election... Which puts it in the scotus, the entire election being nullified, and all states respectively fall back to their legislatures on the order of the SCOTUS to pick their electors. And the physical election goes forward one way or another.
I don't think we really disagree on what it's going to take. :beer:
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Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.
It's too bad the Dominion thing looks to be vaporware... That would have been such a neat play.
Without it, it's a hat trick, and a near impossibility.
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Yeah what happened to the Kracken?
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That correlates to the 99% chance you will declare Trump cheated to win if he pulls it out. :shrug:
No it'll mean that he convinced enough judges, and lawmakers that there was fraud and it was enough to give him the presidency. But that will piss the other side off something pretty awful, so I doubt you'd hear what I say.
Anyway the certification date is in 4 days right? Clock is ticking...
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I don't think we really disagree on what it's going to take. :beer:
If you're somewhere around 'act of God', then yeah. This is a long, long stretch. And I really don't think folks get it.
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Yeah what happened to the Kracken?
Consensus around here seems that was given up on, maybe a week ago. Plenty of widespread examples of fraud, but like a dripping faucet... can they all be proven cumulatively that Biden stole it? Doubtful at this point.
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No it'll mean that he convinced enough judges, and lawmakers that there was fraud and it was enough to give him the presidency. But that will piss the other side off something pretty awful, so I doubt you'd hear what I say.
Anyway the certification date is in 4 days right? Clock is ticking...
Yes, it is. The "Safe Harbor" date is rapidly approaching.
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Yeah what happened to the Kracken?
Pining for the fjords, it seems. :shrug: :whistle:
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CIA: Director Haspel 'Is Alive and Well'
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cia-central-intelligence-agency-gina-haspel-conspiracy/2020/12/04/id/1000092/ (https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cia-central-intelligence-agency-gina-haspel-conspiracy/2020/12/04/id/1000092/)
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CIA: Director Haspel 'Is Alive and Well'
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cia-central-intelligence-agency-gina-haspel-conspiracy/2020/12/04/id/1000092/ (https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cia-central-intelligence-agency-gina-haspel-conspiracy/2020/12/04/id/1000092/)
That people buy into that sort of crap on nothing but rumor is an embarrassment.
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That people buy into that sort of crap on nothing but rumor is an embarrassment.
I wonder if all the talk about a Dominion machine was retrieved from Frankfurt is hokum?
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That people buy into that sort of crap on nothing but rumor is an embarrassment.
Yes, you're right.
The same kind of people/embarrassment who claim there's not an ounce of difference between the two political parties and who say that Pres. Trump is no 'Conservative'.
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I wonder if all the talk about a Dominion machine was retrieved from Frankfurt is hokum?
Drifted off into the ether it seems... If they were taken, nobody is talking. It obviously wasn't the DOJ/FBI...
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That people buy into that sort of crap on nothing but rumor is an embarrassment.
We just finished four long years of folks buying into crap on nothing but rumor. During which time five or six major networks made millions from propagating nothing but rumors.
This is no more embarrassing.
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Drifted off into the ether it seems... If they were taken, nobody is talking. It obviously wasn't the DOJ/FBI...
That's good news, in my book, given the record of DoJ and the FBI of burying/destroying evidence that incriminates politicians of the Democrat variety.
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I wonder if all the talk about a Dominion machine was retrieved from Frankfurt is hokum?
Sure is looking like it...
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Yes, you're right.
The same kind of people/embarrassment who claim there's not an ounce of difference between the two political parties and who say that Pres. Trump is no 'Conservative'.
You're kidding right? All that is plain on its face... and you're living it right now.
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We just finished four long years of folks buying into crap on nothing but rumor. During which time five or six major networks made millions from propagating nothing but rumors.
This is no more embarrassing.
What is different now, v. before is that Right-facing news is doing doing it too. And that is a crying shame, not an improvement.
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Sure is looking like it...
I don't have "future seeing." :shrug:
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I don't have "future seeing." :shrug:
It ain't about future-seeing... It's about paying mind to waggin tongues in the present.
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It ain't about future-seeing... It's about paying mind to waggin tongues in the present.
I just had someone on another thread claim that because Orly Taitz has filed a suit over the election, then all the lawyers working for Trump are kooks like her. Is that fair game, too? Just waggin tongues?
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I just had someone on another thread claim that because Orly Taitz has filed a suit over the election, then all the lawyers working for Trump are kooks like her. Is that fair game, too? Just waggin tongues?
To a degree, yeah. If Tump was geared for court - Serious court - He would not be leading with Giuliani and Bannon. That has bothered me from the start.
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To a degree, yeah. If Tump was geared for court - Serious court - He would not be leading with Giuliani and Bannon. That has bothered me from the start.
I guess I need to give up. "Guilt by Association" just went to a whole new level.
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What is different now, v. before is that Right-facing news is doing doing it too. And that is a crying shame, not an improvement.
must be. Finally got you to condemn it.
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must be. Finally got you to condemn it.
I have condemned it all the way along.
Never wrestle with a pig. That is the problem with tit-for-tat with liberals.
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I guess I need to give up. "Guilt by Association" just went to a whole new level.
With Giuliani and Bannon on point, that looks like a media play- a public opinion play. Not actual lawyering.
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With Giuliani and Bannon on point, that looks like a media play- a public opinion play. Not actual lawyering.
I haven't paid much attention to Bannon, but when I read the Giuliani was Trump's lawyer to fight for re-election/recounts, I knew it was pretty much game over.
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I haven't paid much attention to Bannon, but when I read the Giuliani was Trump's lawyer to fight for re-election/recounts, I knew it was pretty much game over.
yeah... pretty much.
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yeah... pretty much.
Yup! Guilt by association. Dems aren't the only ones who do it.
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Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel....
Parts of Red Storm Rising played out years ago in Oklahoma.
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What is different now, v. before is that Right-facing news is doing doing it too. And that is a crying shame, not an improvement.
What's different now, is that there is some Right facing news.
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What's different now, is that there is some Right facing news.
No. There has been right-facing news a long time now. And to begin with, it kept to a level of journalism that far bettered their leftward facing kind. Try finding an actual journalist today.
I still listen to Shapiro over at the Daily Wire. I listen to Tim Pool some... But there are basically none that you can believe and take at their word. There are none practicing this incredibly necessary discipline.
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No. There has been right-facing news a long time now. And to begin with, it kept to a level of journalism that far bettered their leftward facing kind. Try finding an actual journalist today.
I still listen to Shapiro over at the Daily Wire. I listen to Tim Pool some... But there are basically none that you can believe and take at their word. There are none practicing this incredibly necessary discipline.
Epoch Times?
OANN?
Project Veritas?
You need to get out more.
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Epoch Times?
OANN?
Project Veritas?
You need to get out more.
I stay completely away from epoch and britefart and treehouse. Propaganda.
Veritas is alright in that their larger works at least seem to be breaking and good reporting. But they are not an everyday news source for me.
I like OANN, and watch them every morning. But I would rate them as a young FOX... Right leaning, not Right... And I find the mainstream news soundbite method to be less than desired, and fairly useless for deep-diving a topic.
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With Giuliani and Bannon on point, that looks like a media play- a public opinion play. Not actual lawyering.
So what is Sidney Powell doing? And why would she put her stellar reputation on the line for nothing?
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So what is Sidney Powell doing? And why would she put her stellar reputation on the line for nothing?
Whatever she is doing, it seems to be unwinding faster than she can knit... And I take no pleasure in that - You will recall that I found the Dominion shtick to be the best play. But as far as I can see so far, it's made of thin air.
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Whatever she is doing, it seems to be unwinding faster than she can knit... And I take no pleasure in that - You will recall that I found the Dominion shtick to be the best play. But as far as I can see so far, it's made of thin air.
FYI...
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,421969.msg2339747/topicseen.html#msg2339747 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,421969.msg2339747/topicseen.html#msg2339747)
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FYI...
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,421969.msg2339747/topicseen.html#msg2339747 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,421969.msg2339747/topicseen.html#msg2339747)
I've seen it @DCPatriot ... One machine in a tiny precinct flipped 37 votes. That is anecdotal at best, and a far, far cray from the international vote manipulation that has been laid out in the public sphere.
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I've seen it @DCPatriot ... One machine in a tiny precinct flipped 37 votes. That is anecdotal at best, and a far, far cray from the international vote manipulation that has been laid out in the public sphere.
IOW, you're okay with the machine switching "37 votes"?
Let's say the county in that State had 2000 machines and each one flipped a few dozen votes.
That's 74,000 votes.
Let's say the State of Georgia had 20,000 machines...that's 740,000 votes.
@roamer_1 What the hell is wrong with you?
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IOW, you're okay with the machine switching "37 votes"?
Let's say the county in that State had 2000 machines and each one flipped a few dozen votes.
That's 74,000 votes.
Let's say the State of Georgia had 20,000 machines...that's 740,000 votes.
@roamer_1 What the hell is wrong with you?
Consider the difference of victory in Georgia is 12k votes.
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IOW, you're okay with the machine switching "37 votes"?
No @DCPatriot , I am not 'OK" with it. But it is also just a fact that one will be able to find anecdotal cheating in any election... That is why the bar is set high for overturning elections. Because literally any election can be tied up till the cows come home, and literally none of them would be finalized if one were able to tip it over with incidental cherry-picking.
Let's say the county in that State had 2000 machines and each one flipped a few dozen votes.
That's 74,000 votes.
Let's say the State of Georgia had 20,000 machines...that's 740,000 votes.
@roamer_1 What the hell is wrong with you?
You can SAY any damn thing you want to pal... As I have said all the way along, the tough part is proving it.
I have believed for years that our elections are rigged. I am all for finally showing it true. So far, this is turning out just like every other time... So forgive me my jaundiced eye.
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Consider the difference of victory in Georgia is 12k votes.
And if wishes were wings a frog's ass wouldn't bump the ground. It has to be proven - locked down tight. So far that don't seem to be happening.
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No @DCPatriot , I am not 'OK" with it. But it is also just a fact that one will be able to find anecdotal cheating in any election... That is why the bar is set high for overturning elections. Because literally any election can be tied up till the cows come home, and literally none of them would be finalized if one were able to tip it over with incidental cherry-picking.
You can SAY any damn thing you want to pal... As I have said all the way along, the tough part is proving it.
I have believed for years that our elections are rigged. I am all for finally showing it true. So far, this is turning out just like every other time... So forgive me my jaundiced eye.
37 stolen votes in Dominion machines which have drawn nationwide scrutiny in crucial 'Swing States' is not "anecdotal", my friend.
It's empirical (not circumstantial) evidence that these machines are suspect and should be required to be audited by IMPARTIAL expert analysis.
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Patience. Yes, time is running out, but evidence is now pouring in. This is not the usual garden-variety cheating going on.
I refuse to give in the the constant poo-pooing, of Trump, his legal team, and the people who are fighting this in the states. I've seen otherwise thinking people declare that because there are some Attorneys of lesser skills on the case, then Trump is doomed to fail because he's a lesser person (and those who voted for him are even less than that).
We have several Briefers who don't have all the facts, nor linguistic skills to marshal the the ones they do, simply mock the people trying to set things straight. As Teddy Roosevelt once said, There will always be people on the sidelines heckling the fighters on the battleground.
Have the patience for the fighters, in equal measure to the patience they have with you.
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And if wishes were wings a frog's ass wouldn't bump the ground. It has to be proven - locked down tight. So far that don't seem to be happening.
Clarice Feldman this morning on Facebook:
Robb Hurst, CPA
@robbhurstCPA
37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been "Switched" from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms, this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.
Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared.
ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone.
Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) The point is there is now hard evidence of electronic manipulation of the Election.
@roamer_1 ...read that last sentence twice, if it isn't clear to you.
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37 stolen votes in Dominion machines which have drawn nationwide scrutiny in crucial 'Swing States' is not "anecdotal", my friend.
It's empirical (not circumstantial) evidence that these machines are suspect and should be required to be audited by IMPARTIAL expert analysis.
37 votes in any case are indeed anecdotal. One machine is likewise anecdotal. You will not get a state audit from a single machine... at most it will be portrayed as a hiccup in the hardware... At best an overzealous precinct worker will be fashioned into the bag-holder if they can't get around the evidence...
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@roamer_1 ...read that last sentence twice, if it isn't clear to you.
:shrug:
What do you want @DCPatriot ? Jumping up and down?
Meh.
I really hope they do get caught. No one here would be happier than me over it actually being proven.
That these machines are exploitable has never been in question... So your proof has been known for a long time. Like I have said, it will take an interstate or international collusion to make it stick in any way that will change things, and you're a long, long way from that with one machine and 37 votes.
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37 votes in any case are indeed anecdotal. One machine is likewise anecdotal. You will not get a state audit from a single machine... at most it will be portrayed as a hiccup in the hardware... At best an overzealous precinct worker will be fashioned into the bag-holder if they can't get around the evidence...
"Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared."
Secondly, Dominion (the company) already was suspected of rigging machines.
@roamer_1 This is yet another example of your inherent narcissism...unable to admit when you get something wrong...whether it's the definition of true 'Conservatism' when compared to the current opposition (your digging in on your one-issue fiscal nonsense) OR looking at us with a straight face claiming that Republicans and Democrats today are two sides of the same coin.
Take care...
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"Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared."
Secondly, Dominion (the company) already was suspected of rigging machines.
@roamer_1 This is yet another example of your inherent narcissism...unable to admit when you get something wrong...whether it's the definition of true 'Conservatism' when compared to the current opposition (your digging in on your one-issue fiscal nonsense) OR looking at us with a straight face claiming that Republicans and Democrats today are two sides of the same coin.
Take care...
For any of this to go anywhere it has to be proven with hard evidence. The only issue here between us is what will rise to the level of proving it that will stand in court to the point that it can't be ignored. And that frankly is a tough call no matter how obvious the cheating was. So we're just going to have to wait and see what happens. It looks pretty bleak but I've not given up.
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For any of this to go anywhere it has to be proven with hard evidence. The only issue here between us is what will rise to the level of proving it that will stand in court to the point that it can't be ignored. And that frankly is a tough call no matter how obvious the cheating was. So we're just going to have to wait and see what happens. It looks pretty bleak but I've not given up.
That's why I suggest patience. It doesn't look good, true, but I also refuse to give up. I also think that giving up is a whole lot easier for people who have always disliked the Bad Orange Man.
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For any of this to go anywhere it has to be proven with hard evidence.
There's tons of hard evidence ... testimony, affidavits, video, IT graphs and charts. The GOP refuses to fight the steal. For some unfathomable reason they think they're better off without Trump. And maybe they are -- but whatever calculation the GOP has made, it doesn't include the chances of winning another national election.
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"Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared."
Secondly, Dominion (the company) already was suspected of rigging machines.
@roamer_1 This is yet another example of your inherent narcissism...unable to admit when you get something wrong...whether it's the definition of true 'Conservatism' when compared to the current opposition (your digging in on your one-issue fiscal nonsense) OR looking at us with a straight face claiming that Republicans and Democrats today are two sides of the same coin.
Take care...
It isn't narcissism @DCPatriot ... And I am quite happy to admit being wrong. I simply require a high bar of proof and a high standard of performance. As should you.
As to Conservatism, I do not have a 'one issue' approach at all - I embrace ALL the immovable principles of Conservatism - All of them. And I know and take as a fact that all of them are interrelated and in ignoring one principle, you may as well ignore them all... And considering that American political conservatism is based foremost in civil-libertarianism and fiscal conservatism, one can hardly express fiscal conservatism as 'nonsense' and consider one's self a conservative in the same breath. Your waiving off of this super-critical conservative principle shows a vast ignorance. Until you are willing to starve the beast, it will continue to grow, unimpeded. So much for draining the swamp.
And, as I have declared many times, I only focused on fiscal conservatism because it is flatly undeniable - And indeed NO ONE defends Tumpy on fiscal issues. Because no one can. I will gladly add to that a grand list at any time.
And indeed, Democrats and Republicans are one foot after the other, part and parcel of the same damnable beast... That best expressed in their fostering and care of a gargantuan federal government, and their unwavering support of central control. AGAIN, entirely inarguable across the stretch of thirty years.
I am altogether done being fooled by feigned support and candy thrown from the clown at the front of the parade. They offer NO opposition to federal consolidation of this behemoth, and in the end you will rue the day you wound up supporting it. Mark my words.
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All that needs to be done is enough doubt generated for 31 Biden electors be withheld. GA is 16. 15 more to go.
There is plenty of evidence - the question s/b is there enough courage.
BTW according to the time stamp on the GA tape the people left the room at the exact time of the water line break, counting of the bogus ballot started ten minutes later.
There was no water line break. That is a demon-rat lie.
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There was no water line break. That is a demon-rat lie.
Right. It turned out to be a leaky toilet. And I'm sure it wasn't even that.
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Clarice Feldman this morning on Facebook:
Robb Hurst, CPA
@robbhurstCPA
37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been "Switched" from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms, this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.
Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared.
ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE SOLVED. (It is worth noting that this was one County, and on one Tabulator alone.
Dominion Tabulators could have been configured with different algorithms in different Counties or States.) The point is there is now hard evidence of electronic manipulation of the Election.
@roamer_1 ...read that last sentence twice, if it isn't clear to you.
People can harp on the number 37, but the real change in the difference for the candidates is 74. By switching 37 votes, Trump loses 37 and Biden gains 37, a net delta of 74 votes.
@roamer_1 how big a number you want? I gave a Fortune 5 company credit on their next invoice for a dime because keeping it would be wrong, and it was the only way I could return the overpayment that wouldn't cost them more than the payment was worth. If there hadn't been a next invoice, I would have taped it to a piece of card stock and sent it to them.
There's a line that, if crossed, it's a question of crossing it. Not a matter of how far you went after that.
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People can harp on the number 37, but the real change in the difference for the candidates is 74. By switching 37 votes, Trump loses 37 and Biden gains 37, a net delta of 74 votes.
@roamer_1 how big a number you want? I gave a Fortune 5 company credit on their next invoice for a dime because keeping it would be wrong, and it was the only way I could return the overpayment that wouldn't cost them more than the payment was worth. If there hadn't been a next invoice, I would have taped it to a piece of card stock and sent it to them.
There's a line that, if crossed, it's a question of crossing it. Not a matter of how far you went after that.
"No evidence" got them this close to the adjourning of the electoral college. All they gotta do now is lay low for another ten days and it really won't matter how much evidence floods in.
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:shrug:
What do you want @DCPatriot ? Jumping up and down?
Meh.
I really hope they do get caught. No one here would be happier than me over it actually being proven.
That these machines are exploitable has never been in question... So your proof has been known for a long time. Like I have said, it will take an interstate or international collusion to make it stick in any way that will change things, and you're a long, long way from that with one machine and 37 votes.
Everything has an Achilles' heel, the question is not one of whether that can be exploited, but one of whether it was. If one was, all are suspect. The line has been crossed.
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Everything has an Achilles' heel, the question is not one of whether that can be exploited, but one of whether it was. If one was, all are suspect. The line has been crossed.
@Smokin Joe
Thank you, my FRiend! Seriously.
I like your analysis that the 37 votes was actually 74. I thought of it right away, but my Metoprolol-addled brain wouldn't allow me to articulate it in such a fashion as your post did. :beer:
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Right. It turned out to be a leaky toilet. And I'm sure it wasn't even that.
888high58888 :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :seeya:
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Everything has an Achilles' heel, the question is not one of whether that can be exploited, but one of whether it was. If one was, all are suspect. The line has been crossed.
Now the programming needs to be dissected to determine if the vote switch was by design. If by design then it shows a conspiracy to defraud voters that is likely wide spread involving numerous states that used the same brand machine. If so this can't be an "error". It is high level criminality that should send numerous people to prison for a long time.
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@roamer_1 how big a number you want? I gave a Fortune 5 company credit on their next invoice for a dime because keeping it would be wrong, and it was the only way I could return the overpayment that wouldn't cost them more than the payment was worth. If there hadn't been a next invoice, I would have taped it to a piece of card stock and sent it to them.
There's a line that, if crossed, it's a question of crossing it. Not a matter of how far you went after that.
Right... How do you prove it wasn't just an over-zealous poll worker? Even if you nail a precinct captain, so what?
There is ALWAYS cheating. Pointing a finger and screaming at anecdotal evidence does nothing. And it certainly will not overturn this election until it can be proven to be deep and wide.
Again I reiterate, I am ALL FOR catching them at it. I not only believe there is cheating, but I also believe it is widespread and has been for a long time. I think they've been pumping up the vote in the big cities forever, and in the swing states too.
So I am not going to get all pissed or verklempt, or even excited, because I am not in the least bit surprised... But I also think it's a long way from being proven in any way that will affect things this time around.
So again, forgive my jaundiced eye. Been here done this before.
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Everything has an Achilles' heel, the question is not one of whether that can be exploited, but one of whether it was. If one was, all are suspect. The line has been crossed.
I think you will find that a hard sell in the courts.
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"Those conducting the test were so shocked that they ran the same ballots again. The same results appeared."
Secondly, Dominion (the company) already was suspected of rigging machines.
@roamer_1 This is yet another example of your inherent narcissism...unable to admit when you get something wrong...whether it's the definition of true 'Conservatism' when compared to the current opposition (your digging in on your one-issue fiscal nonsense) OR looking at us with a straight face claiming that Republicans and Democrats today are two sides of the same coin.
Take care...
And, to me at least, the REALLY big news is that all the Dominion machines have been called in to even greater question. Why wouldn't the software be the same on ALL of them in every state?
@DCPatriot @Smokin Joe @roamer_1
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And, to me at least, the REALLY big news is that all the Dominion machines have been called in to even greater question. Why wouldn't the software be the same on ALL of them in every state?
@DCPatriot @Smokin Joe @roamer_1
It doesn't matter, because Trump could be right as rain on this, but he still spent Eleventy Trillion bucks all on his own.
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It doesn't matter, because Trump could be right as rain on this, but he still spent Eleventy Trillion bucks all on his own.
Bullshit.
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Bullshit.
I am sorry, but every time you said Tumpy did a good thing, you balanced it off with the comment he spent Eleventy Trillion dollars. Or something.
Feel free to call it bullshit, that is you prerogative.
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I am sorry, but every time you said Tumpy did a good thing, you balanced it off with the comment he spent Eleventy Trillion dollars. Or something.
Feel free to call it bullshit, that is you prerogative.
I don't give a shit about Tumpy. I ain't changed my mind a bit. And I won't. Whatever he's done good means exactly nothing in the face of FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS. Not that he's done much anyway, as y'all will find out soon enough... When nearly everything he has done is overturned with the stroke of a pen. POOF! All gone.
Nothing has changed that, and nothing ever will. His poor performance is already written in stone.
Regardless of my distaste for him, That doesn't mean I want him to lose by corruption. I can be FOR fair elections without having to be FOR Tumpy. That's the bullshit. And you know better.
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I don't give a shit about Tumpy. I ain't changed my mind a bit. And I won't. Whatever he's done good means exactly nothing in the face of FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS. Not that he's done much anyway, as y'all will find out soon enough... When nearly everything he has done is overturned with the stroke of a pen. POOF! All gone.
Nothing has changed that, and nothing ever will. His poor performance is already written in stone.
Regardless of my distaste for him, That doesn't mean I want him to lose by corruption. I can be FOR fair elections without having to be FOR Tumpy. That's the bullshit. And you know better.
You say you don't want him to lose by corruption, so why do you poo-poo every positive development in the legal cases? It just doesn't compute. :shrug:
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And, to me at least, the REALLY big news is that all the Dominion machines have been called in to even greater question. Why wouldn't the software be the same on ALL of them in every state?
@DCPatriot @Smokin Joe @roamer_1
@Bigun
That's right, my friend. Plus, that's just the most recent 'aberration' they discovered. I'm sure they contain a few other surprises/bugs in there too.
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@Bigun
That's right, my friend. Plus, that's just the most recent 'aberration' they discovered. I'm sure they contain a few other surprises/bugs in there too.
Sorry this has wandered a bit off topic, but it happens every time once we get a few pages of posts. :shrug:
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Bullshit.
@roamer_1
We actually don't like clubbing you over the head on this. But you deserve it.
Every time you get cornered on your anti-Trump material, you drag out the ole' fiscal irresponsibility. As @Cyber Liberty points out, he doesn't write the laws, he executes them.
And with such an adversarial media, academia and entertainment culture all at his throat, he can't take the veto route.
In fact, he's accomplished 'miracles' for the Treasury Department with his Economic and de-regulation policies.
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Sorry this has wandered a bit off topic, but it happens every time once we get a few pages of posts. :shrug:
Not fair, @Cyber Liberty
YOU 'buried' this thread into Members Only, which I understand perfectly...the original premise was false and it was embarrassing to the brass.
Leave us be. At least we're not talking about pie....yet. :beer:
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Not fair, @Cyber Liberty
YOU 'buried' this thread into Members Only, which I understand perfectly...the original premise was false and it was embarrassing to the brass.
Leave us be. At least we're not talking about pie....yet. :beer:
I like pie...
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@roamer_1
We actually don't like clubbing you over the head on this. But you deserve it.
@DCPatriot
The hell I do.
Every time you get cornered on your anti-Trump material, you drag out the ole' fiscal irresponsibility. As @Cyber Liberty points out, he doesn't write the laws, he executes them.
Riiiiight.... Special exception to the rule, because Tump. I will be sure to dissect responsibility for past presidents too... You know, every one of which get the credit and the blame... Because except for Tumpy, the buck stops at the top. You know... The Obama era, The Bush era... All except Tumpy, who will need footnotes to tell everyone it wasn't his fault. Except the really really good stuff, of course.
He signed every one of those spending bills all by himself.
And with such an adversarial media, academia and entertainment culture all at his throat, he can't take the veto route.
Poor impotent Tumpy... He can't help it. Sads.
In fact, he's accomplished 'miracles' for the Treasury Department with his Economic and de-regulation policies.
LOL! Yeah right. It's like the last year never even happened! Oh, right - Not his fault... *****rollingeyes*****
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@roamer_1
We actually don't like clubbing you over the head on this. But you deserve it.
Every time you get cornered on your anti-Trump material, you drag out the ole' fiscal irresponsibility. As @Cyber Liberty points out, he doesn't write the laws, he executes them.
And with such an adversarial media, academia and entertainment culture all at his throat, he can't take the veto route.
In fact, he's accomplished 'miracles' for the Treasury Department with his Economic and de-regulation policies.
Agree. Just plain TRUMP ENVY. Many have that. 888high58888
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Agree. Just plain TRUMP ENVY. Many have that. 888high58888
Stupid thing to say. No Trump envy.
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You say you don't want him to lose by corruption, so why do you poo-poo every positive development in the legal cases? It just doesn't compute. :shrug:
What, I gotta be a cheerleader now? How much of this stuff I am supposed to cheer on actually got any traction? And I was wrong to say they wouldn't? you know as well as I do the high bar required. But I have to encourage and be hopeful for every unvetted and twitterpated nonsense that comes down the pike? Even this OP... Was I wrong to be skeptical after all?
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Stupid thing to say. No Trump envy.
Absolutely, TUMP ENVY...even before he became POTUS. I think you are stupid to post that. The proof is looking at all his prior video's with talk show hosts. Since he is a household word, they are all jealous and have to mock him, put him down. You know nothing about human behaviors. But, I have "your number" now.
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Stupid thing to say. No Trump envy.
Typical knee-jerk psychophant reply.
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I don't give a shit about Tumpy. I ain't changed my mind a bit. And I won't. Whatever he's done good means exactly nothing in the face of FIFTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS. Not that he's done much anyway, as y'all will find out soon enough... When nearly everything he has done is overturned with the stroke of a pen. POOF! All gone.
Nothing has changed that, and nothing ever will. His poor performance is already written in stone.
Regardless of my distaste for him, That doesn't mean I want him to lose by corruption. I can be FOR fair elections without having to be FOR Tumpy. That's the bullshit. And you know better.
I didn't want to take out the bold part just to preserve context.
You are right, much was done by Executive order.
It that his fault? Or is it instead the stinking Congress, reeking of swamp mud and black water that didn't have the gumption to do their job even when they had a clear majority?
Trump hate isn't enough excuse for these swamp critters to hide behind.
As for corruption, I don't like thieves. Cutting their hands off is the one thing I think the Saudis do right, and frankly, that may be too fricking nice for my tastes.
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I didn't want to take out the bold part just to preserve context.
You are right, much was done by Executive order.
It that his fault? Or is it instead the stinking Congress, reeking of swamp mud and black water that didn't have the gumption to do their job even when they had a clear majority?
Trump hate isn't enough excuse for these swamp critters to hide behind.
As for corruption, I don't like thieves. Cutting their hands off is the one thing I think the Saudis do right, and frankly, that may be too fricking nice for my tastes.
Hate ain't the point. Agenda is the point. And in that, as is glaringly obvious, Republicans are closer to Democrats than to Conservatives... Like I said, Tumpy doesn't matter. He's been compartmentalized since day one. He gets what he gets to do by EO and no more. What he has done by law is what the liberals and moderates agree upon, and is far from Conservative. So at worst, those EOs are gonna make it 8 years and be gone, while in the meantime the big.gov sh*t and NWO sh*t keeps motoring right through to law.
For crying out loud. this ain't that hard to see. The ONLY thing that will stop it is Conservatives at the levers of power in the house and senate, and a solid hard right Congress and Senate... Chopping off whole chunks of the fed, and drying up the money with a hard pressed tourniquet.
NONE of that happened under Tump. None of that happened in the Booshes. it has done nothing but GROW and grow exponentially.
As to corruption... It has been made clear to me that the only satisfactory answer to that around here is to get in line behind Tumpy the Clown and swear fealty, and I sure as hell ain't going to do that.
So screw it.
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What amazing is that @mystery-ak is allowing a headline that is an utter lie to stand on her site.
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What amazing is that @mystery-ak is allowing a headline that is an utter lie to stand on her site.
It was moved to Members Only..only members can see this thread.
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What, I gotta be a cheerleader now? How much of this stuff I am supposed to cheer on actually got any traction? And I was wrong to say they wouldn't? you know as well as I do the high bar required. But I have to encourage and be hopeful for every unvetted and twitterpated nonsense that comes down the pike? Even this OP... Was I wrong to be skeptical after all?
Not asking for a cheerleader, just looking for evidence you care about theft of elections in the abstract, even if you don't like the person from which an election is stolen. Won't matter in a couple months anyway. :shrug:
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Not asking for a cheerleader, just looking for evidence you care about theft of elections in the abstract, even if you don't like the person from which an election is stolen. Won't matter in a couple months anyway. :shrug:
@Cyber Liberty
LOL! Sometimes, your sarcasm escapes me.
...cause if indeed BIDEN/HARRIS are installed in 6 weeks, it's going to "matter" a helluva lot!
Side note: It's really easy to divorce yourself from the ramifications of this outright theft/fraud by the Left when you are segregated from society, living on a mountain somewhere. It's from that perspective in which I ignore @roamer_1 's POVs for the most part.
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Hate ain't the point. Agenda is the point. And in that, as is glaringly obvious, Republicans are closer to Democrats than to Conservatives... Like I said, Tumpy doesn't matter. He's been compartmentalized since day one. He gets what he gets to do by EO and no more. What he has done by law is what the liberals and moderates agree upon, and is far from Conservative. So at worst, those EOs are gonna make it 8 years and be gone, while in the meantime the big.gov sh*t and NWO sh*t keeps motoring right through to law.
For crying out loud. this ain't that hard to see. The ONLY thing that will stop it is Conservatives at the levers of power in the house and senate, and a solid hard right Congress and Senate... Chopping off whole chunks of the fed, and drying up the money with a hard pressed tourniquet.
NONE of that happened under Tump. None of that happened in the Booshes. it has done nothing but GROW and grow exponentially.
As to corruption... It has been made clear to me that the only satisfactory answer to that around here is to get in line behind Tumpy the Clown and swear fealty, and I sure as hell ain't going to do that.
So screw it.
Trump doesn't elect the Congress, we do. We don't get a lot to pick from because the Parties have all that sewed up by the time someone is put forth as a Congressional candidate. Daddy Bush babbled about the New World Order, and it's been Left foot, Right foot, shuffling down the road to totalitarianism since--and they were on their way prior to that.
This has been a modest respite in that some of those EOs have set the US up better to resist, awakened a lot of people to the scam, even if they have awakened because of loyalty to Trump.
The question is simple. Either the ballot box means something, or we only have one box left.
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Not asking for a cheerleader, just looking for evidence you care about theft of elections in the abstract, even if you don't like the person from which an election is stolen. Won't matter in a couple months anyway. :shrug:
Evidence? Howabout DECLARATIONS! Should not be hard to find, even on this thread. I have not been shy about it.
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@Cyber Liberty
LOL! Sometimes, your sarcasm escapes me.
...cause if indeed BIDEN/HARRIS are installed in 6 weeks, it's going to "matter" a helluva lot!
As I have said, I see no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. If there WAS a difference, then the Republicans would strive against the Democrats, which they do not.
Side note: It's really easy to divorce yourself from the ramifications of this outright theft/fraud by the Left when you are segregated from society, living on a mountain somewhere. It's from that perspective in which I ignore @roamer_1 's POVs for the most part.
What of the outright theft performed by Republicans just the same? My cousin lives in a Republican state under Republican rule, and he saw his business destroyed just the same as mine was during this tyranny they call covid. All of his treasure, the accumulation of twenty years, GONE, every bit as much as mine.
Segregated from society? REALLY @DCPatriot ?
Most of the big-box stores, movie houses, and food chains are mere miles from me even as i speak. 'Society' as you would have it, is but a brisk half hour walk away from me right now.
The difference is not in that I reject it I think (though I certainly DO), but rather, that I CAN. So many of y'all have no choice but to bow to it... Which of course means that y'all will be crushed by tyranny, no matter which way you choose, and largely ARE, already, liberty having no course whatsoever, that you might recognize it and save yourselves.
In that I understand your jealousy - Though I don't believe you do. :laugh:
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The difference is not in that I reject it I think (though I certainly DO), but rather, that I CAN. So many of y'all have no choice but to bow to it... Which of course means that y'all will be crushed by tyranny, no matter which way you choose, and largely ARE, already, liberty having no course whatsoever, that you might recognize it and save yourselves.
And that's why I left the 'burbs the instant I retired, and got a small Castle up in the foothills. 888high58888
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The difference is not in that I reject it I think (though I certainly DO), but rather, that I CAN. So many of y'all have no choice but to bow to it... Which of course means that y'all will be crushed by tyranny, no matter which way you choose, and largely ARE, already, liberty having no course whatsoever, that you might recognize it and save yourselves.
And all that has been true for much longer than Trump has been on the scene! VERY much longer in fact!
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And all that has been true for much longer than Trump has been on the scene! VERY much longer in fact!
What @roamer_1 will never understand is we are painfully aware of the threat today’s ruling establishment represents and that to most of us Trump was our big middle finger to them. Impotent, in the end, maybe but it was well worth the try.
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And all that has been true for much longer than Trump has been on the scene! VERY much longer in fact!
That's right.
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What @roamer_1 will never understand is we are painfully aware of the threat today’s ruling establishment represents and that to most of us Trump was our big middle finger to them. Impotent, in the end, maybe but it was well worth the try.
Yeah @skeeter , I DO see that. And as much as I enjoy flipping em the big ol bird, what I am pointing to are the things that are not impotent. The things that are necessary to liberty, and the ability to actually fight, or at least survive tyranny.
Liberty has responsibilities.
Freedom has consequences.
What is about to come upon us as a people IS a consequence - A consequence of failing to uphold the responsibilities of liberty.
That consequence will be suffered most by those who are furthest from being able to safeguard liberty - the ones who have neglected individualism... The ones who have neglected federalism... The ones who have given up their right to arms and subsistence off the land. The comforts of the collective (what all y'all consider pleasant society) have robbed you of the ability to do for yourself.
In that, you are right - I see that Tump is wholly a waste of time albeit that he may be considered a last act of defiance. To have eschewed the principled assault the TEA Party represented for the paltry gratifications of Tumpy the middle finger, was a monumental mistake. Investing in a messiah rather than in the long hard work of building a Conservative majority - A coalition of responsible lawmakers to take over the levers of power - will likely be the end of things.
Because in the end it marks the right being more interested in the comforts of freedom than being willing to suffer the responsibilities of liberty. It has been a disappointment to me to understand how far that has reached into the Right, and how few are left to comprehend it.
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Yeah @skeeter , I DO see that. And as much as I enjoy flipping em the big ol bird, what I am pointing to are the things that are not impotent. The things that are necessary to liberty, and the ability to actually fight, or at least survive tyranny.
Liberty has responsibilities.
Freedom has consequences.
What is about to come upon us as a people IS a consequence - A consequence of failing to uphold the responsibilities of liberty.
That consequence will be suffered most by those who are furthest from being able to safeguard liberty - the ones who have neglected individualism... The ones who have neglected federalism... The ones who have given up their right to arms and subsistence off the land. The comforts of the collective (what all y'all consider pleasant society) have robbed you of the ability to do for yourself.
In that, you are right - I see that Tump is wholly a waste of time albeit that he may be considered a last act of defiance. To have eschewed the principled assault the TEA Party represented for the paltry gratifications of Tumpy the middle finger, was a monumental mistake. Investing in a messiah rather than in the long hard work of building a Conservative majority - A coalition of responsible lawmakers to take over the levers of power - will likely be the end of things.
Because in the end it marks the right being more interested in the comforts of freedom than being willing to suffer the responsibilities of liberty. It has been a disappointment to me to understand how far that has reached into the Right, and how few are left to comprehend it.
Im always amazed at how stupid you think the rest of us are.
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Im always amazed at how stupid you think the rest of us are.
I am sorry you take it that way. Because that is not how it is intended.
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I am sorry you take it that way. Because that is not how it is intended.
I didn't. I always considered you "convince-able," as long as we got good enough evidence. :shrug:
We're getting there, as I knew would happen.
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I didn't. I always considered you "convince-able," as long as we got good enough evidence. :shrug:
We're getting there, as I knew would happen.
WRT election fraud? I need no convincing at all. I KNOW our election system is corrupt. I have known it long before Tump. It is not a matter of convincing. It is and always has been a matter of actionable proof.
I have been 'Orly Taitzed' into a condition similar to being comfortably numb. Hair-on-fire-come-to-Jesus crap doesn't even move my meter. Dragging out a whole parade just makes me look for another way to get across town.
If it ain't a money shot, I just get bored.
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WRT election fraud? I need no convincing at all. I KNOW our election system is corrupt. I have known it long before Tump. It is not a matter of convincing. It is and always has been a matter of actionable proof.
I have been 'Orly Taitzed' into a condition similar to being comfortably numb. Hair-on-fire-come-to-Jesus crap doesn't even move my meter. Dragging out a whole parade just makes me look for another way to get across town.
If it ain't a money shot, I just get bored.
BTW, Orly the Dentist has filed a lawsuit disputing the election...lol. I've already seen Members post that because Orly Taitz filed a suit, it's proof-positive Trump's trying to steal Biden's honest victory. :laugh:
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BTW, Orly the Dentist has filed a lawsuit disputing the election...lol. I've already seen Members post that because Orly Taitz filed a suit, it's proof-positive Trump's trying to steal Biden's honest victory. :laugh:
*Rolls eyes*... She is a caricature and always has been... That she was once considered a golden unicorn by the birthers is such an embarrassment. How folks go wandering off after lemming leaders is beyond me. I guess my clinging to orthodoxy makes me immune. :shrug:
Conservatives, it is said, are harder to herd than cats. I have always believed that to be true. Which makes me wonder at folks so willing to be herded.
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*Rolls eyes*... She is a caricature and always has been... That she was once considered a golden unicorn by the birthers is such an embarrassment. How folks go wandering off after lemming leaders is beyond me. I guess my clinging to orthodoxy makes me immune. :shrug:
Conservatives, it is said, are harder to herd than cats. I have always believed that to be true. Which makes me wonder at folks so willing to be herded.
In the case of this election, herding is not required to come to the conclusion Biden cheated his way into office. People have come to that conclusion all on their own. Most of us are alarmed this is a turning point on the road to single (socialist) party rule, because this scale of cheating could become the new normal.
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In the case of this election, herding is not required to come to the conclusion Biden cheated his way into office.
Right, but that is no surprise to me... Anymore than it would be a surprise for Turtle to block the rise of anyone reasonably conservative on the Right...
The fix has been in for a long, long time.
People have come to that conclusion all on their own. Most of us are alarmed this is a turning point on the road to single (socialist) party rule, because this scale of cheating could become the new normal.
This scale of cheating has been the new normal since electronic online balloting as been available. I am happy that folks are wakening to it... But again, all for naught without actionable proof.
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Right, but that is no surprise to me... Anymore than it would be a surprise for Turtle to block the rise of anyone reasonably conservative on the Right...
The fix has been in for a long, long time.
This scale of cheating has been the new normal since electronic online balloting as been available. I am happy that folks are wakening to it... But again, all for naught without actionable proof.
I agree with almost all of that, except I don't think online balloting is available in most states. Oregon and Washington state, I think are the only ones. But...the fact that Dominion had their tabulators connected to the internet is basically the same thing.
What's different here is there are credible allegations the big cheat is downstream from the polling places, at the counting centers' computers actually changing the votes.
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WRT election fraud? I need no convincing at all. I KNOW our election system is corrupt. I have known it long before Tump. It is not a matter of convincing. It is and always has been a matter of actionable proof.
I have been 'Orly Taitzed' into a condition similar to being comfortably numb. Hair-on-fire-come-to-Jesus crap doesn't even move my meter. Dragging out a whole parade just makes me look for another way to get across town.
If it ain't a money shot, I just get bored.
It's not just our election system that is corrupt! It's the entire Feral government now!
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It's not just our election system that is corrupt! It's the entire Feral government now!
Exactly.... And without Trump to at least fight the tide, the swamp creatures will run rampant again,
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It's not just our election system that is corrupt! It's the entire Feral government now!
That's GIGO at work. :smokin:
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Exactly.... And without Trump to at least fight the tide, the swamp creatures will run rampant again,
But now, they have the tools to ensure no outsider ever gets elected dogcatcher.
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I agree with almost all of that, except I don't think online balloting is available in most states. Oregon and Washington state, I think are the only ones. But...the fact that Dominion had their tabulators connected to the internet is basically the same thing.
That's what I mean.
What's different here is there are credible allegations the big cheat is downstream from the polling places, at the counting centers' computers actually changing the votes.
It can be done right at the voting centers too - the OS for electronic voting machines is on an ssd which of course is easy to alter with access. which sounds like what happened with the 37 vote thing - that is actual ballots being cast wrongly. This stuff is all over YooToob.
How easy is it to hide an algorithmic function in a proprietary .dll and have it regulated and turned on and off with config/reg settings that would have no evident meaning? Simple.
If we are going to have electronic voting at all, one will have to rely on high quality hackers from both sides to keep it honest, or rely wholly on open source published software that can be perused for corruption by anyone.
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It's not just our election system that is corrupt! It's the entire Feral government now!
Yep. And hence, my 'Throw ALL the Bastards Out' campaign...
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That's what I mean.
It can be done right at the voting centers too - the OS for electronic voting machines is on an ssd which of course is easy to alter with access. which sounds like what happened with the 37 vote thing - that is actual ballots being cast wrongly. This stuff is all over YooToob.
How easy is it to hide an algorithmic function in a proprietary .dll and have it regulated and turned on and off with config/reg settings that would have no evident meaning? Simple.
If we are going to have electronic voting at all, one will have to rely on high quality hackers from both sides to keep it honest, or rely wholly on open source published software that can be perused for corruption by anyone.
My understanding that the long-form user's manual for the Smartmatic/Dominion software actually told them where to cheat, and I suspect Powell's team found it in the 500+ pages of manual. Here, it's good to remember the program was designed for cheating when developed by Venezuela and perfected elsewhere. It's easy to leave the resource hooks in the software, but really stupid to document it as a feature.
I envision some version of Block Chain keeping tabs on revision history is in the future cards. It was written from the ground up to prevent meddling. Nothing beats using the Heisenberg Theory for that kind of security. (The act of looking at the code, changes the code.)
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I envision some version of Block Chain keeping tabs on revision history is in the future cards. It was written from the ground up to prevent meddling. Nothing beats using the Heisenberg Theory for that kind of security. (The act of looking at the code, changes the code.)
I would go entirely the other way - Open source with no hidden or copywritten parts. No code in the entire OS and programming hidden from a million prying eyes. The only way t ensure it is pure is to publish it whole.
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I would go entirely the other way - Open source with no hidden or copywritten parts. No code in the entire OS and programming hidden from a million prying eyes. The only way t ensure it is pure is to publish it whole.
Both are light-years better than proprietary software that the Elections Officials cannot access. That is wayyyy wrong!
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Both are light-years better than proprietary software that the Elections Officials cannot access. That is wayyyy wrong!
That's right. And the only reason there would be proprietary software is to obfuscate... And if there is one thing you don't want in elections, it's obfuscation.
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I didn't want to take out the bold part just to preserve context.
You are right, much was done by Executive order.
It that his fault? Or is it instead the stinking Congress, reeking of swamp mud and black water that didn't have the gumption to do their job even when they had a clear majority?
Trump hate isn't enough excuse for these swamp critters to hide behind.
As for corruption, I don't like thieves. Cutting their hands off is the one thing I think the Saudis do right, and frankly, that may be too fricking nice for my tastes.
He may be happy, POTUS TRUMP fixed our military and VA. Military for when some communist country wants to take over our country. Money, won't mean a thing....then. And building the WALL, for National security. Some 'freedoms' cost money. And I like the new program for VETERANS to receive better care. He is just so scared. And life is not perfect is it?
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For all of you who pooh-pooh the possibility that Haspel is not dead or injured just consider...
For YEARS, the FBI denied having any knowledge or evidence concerning the murder of Seth Rich only to recently admit to having over 20,000 pages of documents AND having his laptop in their possession.
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For all of you who pooh-pooh the possibility that Haspel is not dead or injured just consider...
For YEARS, the FBI denied having any knowledge or evidence concerning the murder of Seth Rich only to recently admit to having over 20,000 pages of documents AND having this laptop in their possession.
:thumbsup:
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For all of you who pooh-pooh the possibility that Haspel is not dead or injured just consider...
For YEARS, the FBI denied having any knowledge or evidence concerning the murder of Seth Rich only to recently admit to having over 20,000 pages of documents AND having his laptop in their possession.
Just like they had the laptop of the bagman (Hunter) and did not release $hit until so close to the election.
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Both are light-years better than proprietary software that the Elections Officials cannot access. That is wayyyy wrong!
A lot of software companies will open up their source for auditing though, Microsoft has done this for years.
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A lot of software companies will open up their source for auditing though, Microsoft has done this for years.
I'm sure Dominion did too. They only refused, after the fact, because of being caught cheating this election.
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CIA Director Gina Haspel was arrested after she was injured in the Frankfurt Germany CIA building raid to secure the servers.
The building had no guards and was unprotected.
Uhhhhhhhhh.
Is ANYBODY really buying this nonsense?
Ask ANTBODY who has ever had a security clearance,even at the lowest level,what the odds are of a building housing classified material being left unguarded.
ANY BUILDING,never mind one in a foreign country.
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FWIW, she was on her Twitter account yesterday. [or so it seems]
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FWIW, she was on her Twitter account yesterday. [or so it seems]
That's what they want you to think.
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That's what they want you to think.
:silly: :pondering:
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That's what they want you to think.
Obviously, someone killed her, skinned her, and is walking around in a Gina costume like Buffalo Bill.
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Obviously, someone killed her, skinned her, and is walking around in a Gina costume like Buffalo Bill.
Well that's just silly.
It's the shape-shifting aliens...
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Well that's just silly.
It's the shape-shifting aliens...
I've always found the "walk-in aliens" interesting. Aliens possessing human hosts.
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I've always found the "walk-in aliens" interesting. Aliens possessing human hosts.
That would not work in this situation, as the human host is purportedly locked up in Guantanamo or something...
So it would have to be the shape-shifty kind. :shrug: :whistle:
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Well that's just silly.
It's the shape-shifting aliens...
Nope. Skinwalkers....
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Nope. Skinwalkers....
Dmater/Tomater... Now you're just splittin hares... Hasenpfeffer. :laugh:
Edit to add:
LOL! Sorry about that... I was channeling my inner @bigheadfred :laugh:
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That's what they want you to think.
Could be massive doses of LSD?
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Just out of curiousity,are there any of you who REALLY believe this to be true?
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Just out of curiousity,are there any of you who REALLY believe this to be true?
Buzz-kill....
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Just out of curiousity,are there any of you who REALLY believe this to be true?
My first impression was it was some way out there "Q" Drop. Which in the world of Q, the truth meter runs about 50/50.
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I'm wondering whether this thread shouldn't be move to Alternate Realities -- what usually seems to happen at TBR to wild conspiracy theorizing.
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I'm wondering whether this thread shouldn't be move to Alternate Realities
@The_Reader_David
Sounds like a solid plan to me.
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@The_Reader_David
Sounds like a solid plan to me.
Me too.
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Me too.
And poof just like that it was altered !
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CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
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CIA Director Gina Haspel was arrested after she was injured in the Frankfurt Germany CIA building raid to secure the servers.
The building had no guards and was unprotected. Haspel pulled in some private special military trained security forces to protect the building from such a suspected raid. When the raid happened Haspel was there.
5 of our special forces troops along with a CIA official were killed in the raid. Haspel was injured.
I try to get three confirmations of the soldiers being killed. I got two, but could not get a third. The CIA made up a cover story about the 5 soldiers and one cia operative killed and said they were killed in a helicopter crash.
Haspel was air evacuated out. She was flown to GITMO where she was treated and received a tribunal for treason. She agreed to help trump for a lighter sentence of life which can be revoked if she chooses to not cooperate. She has now turned over information on the servers, what they were for and what they did and who was involved.
There have been many flown into GITMO because that is where they are interrogating these deep state actors. GITMO is full so they can’t be imprisoned there. Some may be executed at GITMO. Hasple will not be one of them because she has agreed to help Trump in testifying as to what the CIA did and when.
It is unknown how badly she was injured in the raid. She made depositions at Gitmo and a video confession.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmoZ5HoWMQ0&feature=emb_logo#)
NOTE: It's the 305th battalion, not the 503rd. he makes the correction in the video at the 5:04 mark (based out of Arizona)
http://darkoutpost.com/conspiracies/cia-director-gina-haspel-arrested-for-treason/?fbclid=IwAR3iecEwQZ2gqQMsFS8-nHGUR9JC7hMJUxgLMN6dJLSjv9v9RPun2M2wQxE (http://darkoutpost.com/conspiracies/cia-director-gina-haspel-arrested-for-treason/?fbclid=IwAR3iecEwQZ2gqQMsFS8-nHGUR9JC7hMJUxgLMN6dJLSjv9v9RPun2M2wQxE)
QUIX: MY OWN CURRENT IMPRESSION & PERSPECTIVE:
I don't know how reliable that source is. I was initially quite ready to believe it as I do not trust Haspel at all. I believe she is a Marxist globalist dark state stooge.
There have been a fair number of flags thrown up on that source & those claims.
I do believe that Trump will be arresting 100's if not 1,000's of people in the near future. Some contend the arrests have begun and that GITMO is full and some are going to prisons in the Azores & Iceland.
I don't know that we can know for certain until the dust settles.
Certainly prayer is in order for all the white hat LEO's & officials.
I do hope that Haspel is arrested, tried for treason in a military tribunal & executed. I believe she is that destructive to the Republic.