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At President Trump's rally in Tampa on Tuesday night, a conspiracy theorist who has slowly gained popularity under Trump's presidency leaped into prime time — anonymous conspiracy theorist "Q."
Some attendees wore shirts with Q logos, while others held up posters promoting the theory: TV cameras even caught one person holding a sign reading “We are Q†as Trump stood in the background.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/399985-conspiracy-theory-qanon-jumps-to-primetime-at-trump-rally (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/399985-conspiracy-theory-qanon-jumps-to-primetime-at-trump-rally)
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*****rollingeyes*****
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Oh good grief. Admitted 4Chan LARP purposefully making very vague or Captian Obvious posts and people still buy it.
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At President Trump's rally in Tampa on Tuesday night, a conspiracy theorist who has slowly gained popularity under Trump's presidency leaped into prime time — anonymous conspiracy theorist "Q."
Some attendees wore shirts with Q logos, while others held up posters promoting the theory: TV cameras even caught one person holding a sign reading “We are Q†as Trump stood in the background.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/399985-conspiracy-theory-qanon-jumps-to-primetime-at-trump-rally (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/399985-conspiracy-theory-qanon-jumps-to-primetime-at-trump-rally)
I dunno. Wearing a Q or "We are Q" shirt might be taken the wrong way. lolol
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I dunno. Wearing a Q or "We are Q" shirt might be taken the wrong way. lolol
It could make for some fun Photoshop work.
I suspect the 4Chan kids who are playing this game are going to have some major lulz with all these suckers.
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It could make for some fun Photoshop work.
I suspect the 4Chan kids who are playing this game are going to have some major lulz with all these suckers.
No doubt.
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:facepalm2:
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Oh good grief. Admitted 4Chan LARP purposefully making very vague or Captian Obvious posts and people still buy it.
4channers will take credit for anything.
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I dunno. Wearing a Q or "We are Q" shirt might be taken the wrong way. lolol
I am so leery of this guy. His followers are evolving into sort of a cult.
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people that are old enough, to have stopped wetting their pants, know little or nothing about 4 chan.
If it bears any generational relationship with identity politics, SJWs and related lingo, of the social media era, it doesn't seem important in politics. Maybe computer play.
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I am so leery of this guy. His followers are evolving into sort of a cult.
I don't know that much about him/them. I pointedly ignored any threads about it previously. Guess I need to get up to speed.
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I don't know that much about him/them. I pointedly ignored any threads about it previously. Guess I need to get up to speed.
I wouldn't. You know all you need to know.
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people that are old enough, to have stopped wetting their pants, know little or nothing about 4 chan.
If it bears any generational relationship with identity politics, SJWs and related lingo, of the social media era, it doesn't seem important in politics. Maybe computer play.
4 chan has been around a long time in internet years. Started in '03 as the 4th iteration of a news bulletin board, which themselves had already been around for years.
It was kind of an underground where of all sorts of eclectic types got together and shared all sorts of alternative whatever.
They were pretty big till social media took over.
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Oh good grief. Admitted 4Chan LARP purposefully making very vague or Captian Obvious posts and people still buy it.
@AbaraXas
Check the QAnon hashtag on Twitter. It's amazing. People who don't believe it are "normies"; they're calling for the world to wake up from its delusion. "We are Q! Join us! The Great Awakening is coming!" It's a fever swamp.
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I don't know that much about him/them. I pointedly ignored any threads about it previously. Guess I need to get up to speed.
@XenaLee
In a nutshell--and I think I have it right---Trump is leading a secret investigation into a worldwide pedophilia ring which includes cannibalism of children. The perps include the Pope and the British royal family, and of course George Soros and the Clintons. He will imprison them all and bring about "The Great Awakening."
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@XenaLee
In a nutshell--and I think I have it right---Trump is leading a secret investigation into a worldwide pedophilia ring which includes cannibalism of children. The perps include the Pope and the British royal family, and of course George Soros and the Clintons. He will imprison them all and bring about "The Great Awakening."
Yeah.... nah. That's a conspiracy theory that I just can't wrap my brain around.
There won't be any awakening, great or otherwise. Why? Because there are too few of us that are awake and actually want to BE awake in the country now.
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Yeah.... nah. That's a conspiracy theory that I just can't wrap my brain around.
There won't be any awakening, great or otherwise. Why? Because there are too few of us that are awake and actually want to BE awake in the country now.
@XenaLee
Yeah, it’s almost a kind of pseudo-apocalyptic scenario with Trump as the deliverer. The thing is, Q is just a role play thing, it’s fake. There was a thread on 4chan where someone said it had gone far enough, was out of hand, etc.
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@XenaLee
Yeah, it’s almost a kind of pseudo-apocalyptic scenario with Trump as the deliverer. The thing is, Q is just a role play thing, it’s fake. There was a thread on 4chan where someone said it had gone far enough, was out of hand, etc.
It wouldn't be so if there were not an awful lot of people that want it to be.... for some reason.
Out of hand kinda describes a lot of things going on in this country right now, though. I get the feeling there's a lot of ticking time bombs out there just waiting to go off. And when it happens... count on the radical left to be right front and center, cheering it on and taking advantage of the chaos and mayhem. You know....
Satan-like.
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@XenaLee
@CatherineofAragon
@XenaLee
In a nutshell--and I think I have it right---Trump is leading a secret investigation into a worldwide pedophilia ring which includes cannibalism of children. The perps include the Pope and the British royal family, and of course George Soros and the Clintons. He will imprison them all and bring about "The Great Awakening."
That's close (LOL).
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It wouldn't be so if there were not an awful lot of people that want it to be.... for some reason.
Out of hand kinda describes a lot of things going on in this country right now, though. I get the feeling there's a lot of ticking time bombs out there just waiting to go off. And when it happens... count on the radical left to be right front and center, cheering it on and taking advantage of the chaos and mayhem. You know....
Satan-like.
@XenaLee
I agree. And I know what you mean...it's a feeling of things being stretched really taut, and the next thing might make them break.
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@XenaLee
@CatherineofAragon
That's close (LOL).
@the_doc
Thanks, lol.
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It wouldn't be so if there were not an awful lot of people that want it to be.... for some reason.
Out of hand kinda describes a lot of things going on in this country right now, though. I get the feeling there's a lot of ticking time bombs out there just waiting to go off. And when it happens... count on the radical left to be right front and center, cheering it on and taking advantage of the chaos and mayhem. You know....
Satan-like.
A large, but active, segment of the population loves conspiracy theories and love believing they are 'in on' weird stuff happening that only they know about.
It makes them feel special.
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A large, but active, segment of the population loves conspiracy theories and love believing they are 'in on' weird stuff happening that only they know about.
It makes them feel special.
Yeah... I know someone like that, only with her, instead of political conspiracy theories, it is religious prophecies that she sees on the internet or on tv spouted by the false prophet televangelists. She reminds me of that 'hair on fire' animated gif at times. Last time was when she called me re: some gigantic tsunami that was supposed to hit all the way up to Boston by January 20, 2017...lol.
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A large, but active, segment of the population loves conspiracy theories and love believing they are 'in on' weird stuff happening that only they know about.
It makes them feel special.
Wow, you're right. I'm sorry you can't feel that way. **nononono*
By the way, there is still the small matter of 40,000+ unexplained sealed federal indictments. (Maybe they're mostly MS-13, but why have they stayed sealed? Over 4,000 of them have been sealed for more than nine months. [See pacer.gov])
The feds are definitely preparing for an unprecedented tsunami of prosecutions. As Q has said, "Enjoy the show." :2popcorn:
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Totally amazed ... you are one of 'Them.'
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Wow, you're right. I'm sorry you can't feel that way. **nononono*
By the way, there is still the small matter of 40,000+ unexplained sealed federal indictments. (Maybe they're mostly MS-13, but why have they stayed sealed? Over 4,000 of them have been sealed for more than nine months. [See pacer.gov])
The feds are definitely preparing for an unprecedented tsunami of prosecutions. As Q has said, "Enjoy the show." :2popcorn:
@en·e·my
/ˈenəmē/
noun
1.
a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.
@the_doc
I don't want to feel special ... I want to feel sane.
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I just hope that if those people have that meeting that's been rumored, that nobody passes out Kool-aid.
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@en·e·my
/ˈenəmē/
noun
1.
a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.
@the_doc
I don't want to feel special ... I want to feel sane.
My joke about "feeling special" was a gentle retort to your chiding, of course. I regard you as a TBR friend and as an important poster on this forum.
All chiding aside, however, I will stipulate that I think our whole world is pretty insane. Does that opinion instead constitute me as insane? Is it out-of-bounds for me to complain that most other folks are badly crazed by today's myriad of morally stupid distractions and weird, often evil appetites--not to mention weird beliefs in the occult? Nope. Even if it is tempting to diagnose neuroses or psychoses by standard deviations or the like, I am actually just a hardnosed guy who objectively faces unpleasant realities.
At the bottom line, I certainly don't feel special. I don't go gaga over crap like "secret knowledge." As a matter of fact, I don't regard any of my insights as particularly "secret" knowledge. I have merely noticed that the really bad forms of evil invariably produce an iceberg of evil, only the tip of which is occasionally visible, and I have concluded that it's reasonable to dive beneath the surface to see how big the evil iceberg really is. Having dived down pretty deep in my investigations over the years, I have discovered that what we can readily see is ordinarily just a small fraction, maybe even a tiny fraction of the hideous mass that is strangling our planet in filthy, vicious corruption.
My point here, Emjay, is that we live in a very, very evil world. Occasionally, I have a hard time believing what I'm really looking at. I am not quick to believe the worst. But I have concluded that the mess of corruption is 100 or even 1000 times worse than most people would dream possible.
Q, in fact, has actually said that the Global Cabal, including its American faction, is UNIMAGINABLY evil. Q has said that the American people will be absolutely HORRIFIED to see what will be revealed shortly before the November elections. Most people will be SHOCKED at the revelations, and many people will initially refuse to believe even RIVETING evidence of the Deep State players' hideous crimes. (Most Americans will try to suspend belief in order to feel sane, I think. Eventually, however, they will have to become Q-believers to recover their flagging sanity.)
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Is Q a liar? Is he a publicity-seeking egomaniac? No, the MSM has been lying to you--AGAIN. Q is not a conspiracy theorist. He is not a LARP. He is quite evidently plugged into U.S. military intelligence. Most important of all, we can convincingly demonstrate that Q is an authorized spokesman for the POTUS, directly accountable to Trump. And Trump's team has information that you do not have. TONS of information that you do not have. TONS of information that you have summarily dismissed, I'm afraid.
You obviously haven't spent much time following the Q tweets. And it takes a big investment of time. Most TBR members just don't have the time, just won't make the time.
They will have to go back over Q's thousands of tweets when the 40,000+ indictments are opened, I guess.
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@the_doc
Hey, I like you also and am frankly surprised that you are drawn into this Q world.
I know evil exists but I am far more optimistic than you are about the extent of it.
I just don't believe it. I've read a bit of it and chose to leave it alone. You can feel free to chide me if any of those dire predictions prove to be true.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjuSgKXW0AAM9Aj.jpg)
QAnon is silliness...not at all like the Deep State.
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/03/qanon-trump-rally-supporters-tuchman-dnt-ac-vpx.cnn (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/03/qanon-trump-rally-supporters-tuchman-dnt-ac-vpx.cnn)
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/03/qanon-trump-rally-supporters-tuchman-dnt-ac-vpx.cnn (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/03/qanon-trump-rally-supporters-tuchman-dnt-ac-vpx.cnn)
Why did you choose to show a CNN picture showing TWO rather large ladies wearing Q shirts. I doubt if that is representative of the audience.
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Why did you choose to show a CNN picture showing TWO rather large ladies wearing Q shirts. I doubt if that is representative of the audience.
If you bothered to read the link at all, it's a video from the Wilkes-Barre rally, interviewing people 2nd believe this stuff.
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If you bothered to read the link at all, it's a video from the Wilkes-Barre rally, interviewing people 2nd believe this stuff.
Of course I didn't read the link. I had stuff to do. Can't remember what but it was important.
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My joke about "feeling special" was a gentle retort to your chiding, of course. I regard you as a TBR friend and as an important poster on this forum.
All chiding aside, however, I will stipulate that I think our whole world is pretty insane. Does that opinion instead constitute me as insane? Is it out-of-bounds for me to complain that most other folks are badly crazed by today's myriad of morally stupid distractions and weird, often evil appetites--not to mention weird beliefs in the occult? Nope. Even if it is tempting to diagnose neuroses or psychoses by standard deviations or the like, I am actually just a hardnosed guy who objectively faces unpleasant realities.
At the bottom line, I certainly don't feel special. I don't go gaga over crap like "secret knowledge." As a matter of fact, I don't regard any of my insights as particularly "secret" knowledge. I have merely noticed that the really bad forms of evil invariably produce an iceberg of evil, only the tip of which is occasionally visible, and I have concluded that it's reasonable to dive beneath the surface to see how big the evil iceberg really is. Having dived down pretty deep in my investigations over the years, I have discovered that what we can readily see is ordinarily just a small fraction, maybe even a tiny fraction of the hideous mass that is strangling our planet in filthy, vicious corruption.
My point here, Emjay, is that we live in a very, very evil world. Occasionally, I have a hard time believing what I'm really looking at. I am not quick to believe the worst. But I have concluded that the mess of corruption is 100 or even 1000 times worse than most people would dream possible.
Q, in fact, has actually said that the Global Cabal, including its American faction, is UNIMAGINABLY evil. Q has said that the American people will be absolutely HORRIFIED to see what will be revealed shortly before the November elections. Most people will be SHOCKED at the revelations, and many people will initially refuse to believe even RIVETING evidence of the Deep State players' hideous crimes. (Most Americans will try to suspend belief in order to feel sane, I think. Eventually, however, they will have to become Q-believers to recover their flagging sanity.)
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Is Q a liar? Is he a publicity-seeking egomaniac? No, the MSM has been lying to you--AGAIN. Q is not a conspiracy theorist. He is not a LARP. He is quite evidently plugged into U.S. military intelligence. Most important of all, we can convincingly demonstrate that Q is an authorized spokesman for the POTUS, directly accountable to Trump. And Trump's team has information that you do not have. TONS of information that you do not have. TONS of information that you have summarily dismissed, I'm afraid.
You obviously haven't spent much time following the Q tweets. And it takes a big investment of time. Most TBR members just don't have the time, just won't make the time.
They will have to go back over Q's thousands of tweets when the 40,000+ indictments are opened, I guess.
@the_doc
Q also said that the Clintons and John Podesta would be arrested on a certain date. Never happened, but as is common with people who are vested in believing this kind of thing, they adjust and come up with a reason that will allow them to keep believing. It becomes a hobby.
Here's an Interesting look at some of the reasons people fall for conspiracy theories. The Q larp plays on strongly held beliefs, such as the fear of Hillary Clinton as some kind of unconquerably evil monster. Claim that she eats children, and the responses are "I knew she was a demon and this proves it." Another example is the devotion Trump's base feels for him, and the conviction that he's a warrior/deliverer. Secret knowledge that he's allowing these cryptic nuggets of (non) information to leak out because he loves them back? And that he's leading a worldwide moral crusade? The base is vindicated.
https://conspiracypsychology.com/2018/04/15/internet-prophecy-cults-101-qanon-and-his-predecessors/ (https://conspiracypsychology.com/2018/04/15/internet-prophecy-cults-101-qanon-and-his-predecessors/)
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@CatherineofAragon
@Emjay
@Quix
@Bigun
@Smokin Joe
@Sanguine
@Chosen Daughter
@the_doc
Q also said that the Clintons and John Podesta would be arrested on a certain date. Never happened, but as is common with people who are vested in believing this kind of thing, they adjust and come up with a reason that will allow them to keep believing. It becomes a hobby.
I do recall a Q tweet many weeks ago suggesting that the Clintons and John Podesta would be arrested soon (or at least his tweet was interpreted by many Q followers as intimating that such an event was coming soon indeed). As I recall, Q's tweet didn't give a date for any such thing--at least, not a "certain date" (your language).
By the way, Q rarely gives EXACT DATES about ANYTHING in the PLAN or the intelligence thereunder. But his revelations are still shocking for their subsequently revealed veracity. The first of many examples of this, one that I saw way back in 2017, concerned a would-be suicide bomber from Bangladesh who would soon injure himself with a bunch of firecrackers that he would believe were high explosives. Well, this bizarre incident did happen in NYC soon after Q's cryptically humorous tweet. There are a number of other examples of such crazy intelligence on Q's part--which goes to show that Q is someone plugged into American counterintelligence, including sting operations.
On one or two occasions, Q has given exact dates for other peculiarly specific predictions--and they have proven to be precisely on target. One that I recall in early 2018 was a chilling declaration made by Q during the meme war #ReleaseTheMemo." At the height of the meme war, Q stated that on the very next day, ALL of the MSM outlets would begin trashing the #ReleaseTheMemo" movement by using IDENTICAL talking points to the effect that #ReleaseTheMemo" was a massive tweeting fraud PERPETRATED BY RUSSIAN BOTS. Well, guess what? Exactly as predicted, on the very next day, a weird explosion of identical talking points about RUSSIAN BOTS using fake Twitter accounts occurred. It happened all at once, and it happened the very next day. As Q would say, "We know their comms." (Q has specifically declared that all of the MSM news producers/anchors receive their daily talking points from the same Deep State Twitter account.)
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In any case, timetables in the TRUMP/Q PLAN will sometimes have to be changed in a covert war against the Deep State. This is a no-brainer. And the fact that it is a no-brainer is one of several reasons why I think the article you linked is so naïve as to be lacking in usefulness, to say the least. The article (or at least your reading of it) presupposes and bluntly claims that any appeal to necessary flexibility is just a lying excuse by Conspiracy Theorists for ignoring "failures" of their guru's predictions. But I am afraid that you (and the author of the article) are ignoring the reality of war and the foggy quality thereof.
(Any numbskull can write the article you linked. That fact does not exactly commend the article to any very strong intellectual as great insight. The article's slant--as in a determination only to debunk the Q movement [by thoroughly "explaining it away"]--is just a priori junk.)
By the way, I recall one occasion in which Q unabashedly revised some of his predictions well in advance of their anticipated fulfillments, stating that POTUS had decided it was necessary to change directions or timing, due to the exigencies of Trump's conflict with the Deep State. This was not a matter of dishonesty or even an intelligence failure, but of cautious honesty. And yet the article you have linked smarmily insinuates that a fellow like Q is just a flake or an even more sinister fake. (The article is just parroting the MSM, Catherine. That isn't something we should overlook. The MSM is monumentally corrupt--perhaps even more corrupt than you have noticed.)
Here's an Interesting look at some of the reasons people fall for conspiracy theories. The Q larp plays on strongly held beliefs, such as the fear of Hillary Clinton as some kind of unconquerably evil monster. Claim that she eats children, and the responses are "I knew she was a demon and this proves it." Another example is the devotion Trump's base feels for him, and the conviction that he's a warrior/deliverer. Secret knowledge that he's allowing these cryptic nuggets of (non) information to leak out because he loves them back? And that he's leading a worldwide moral crusade? The base is vindicated.
I suspect that you know less about the Clintons than you think you do. (Heck, a lot of anti-Hillary folks, here on TBR, don't know the most important facts about her. As another "heck," a lot of folks here on TBR think Obama really was born in Hawaii. [Enough said?])
I also don't think you know much about the worldwide mess of pedophilia and about Satanic Ritual Abuse. (One Hollywood insider, Isaac Kappy, has said concerning these things in Hollywood, "It's worse than you think.")
I don't believe you have read or watched the decidedly awful reports, over decades, by serious, credible authorities on any of this really awful stuff. I also don't think you have been willing even to entertain the ominous nature of Trump's EO of 12/2717--concerning a State of National Emergency centering on Human Trafficking and Serious Corruption--or of the MSM's refusal to talk about that EO at all. I don't think you have seriously considered the significance of Trump's subsequent EO concerning the proper protocol for military prosecutions of civilians--or of the MSM's refusal to talk about it at all.
Notice from this that the MSM is monumentally corrupt--obviously so. (Virtually all of the J-Schools in the U.S. teach their students that the only important role of the journalist is that of what Alinsky lauded as social change. That Alinskyite stance is a flat-out denunciation of true journalistic ethics. It invariably produces fake news in lieu of the real news.)
And here's the clincher: You have given no meaningful thought to the fact that as of July 31 of this year, there were 45,468 sealed federal indictments in the federal court system (sealed since 10/31/17, according to pacer.gov). The annualized rate for these sealed indictments is fifty-six times the normal rate, higher than ever before in history. It's a matter of government record--and although a shockingly significant statistic, it is even more significant for the fact that the MSM is not talking about it at all.
Again, the MSM is monumentally corrupt. If a news item is important, they will make sure they don't cover it properly, if at all.
The average number of sealed federal indictments for a full year is documented as barely over 1,000 for a full year. Something BIG is happening, and yet you just aren't interested. I would dare to point out that your incredulity has wound up aligning you with the MSM. (I respectfully submit that you seem to be a kind of sleepwalker who dreams that she's awake.)
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Finally, let me say, as I have said over and over on TBR, I do not regard Trump as a kind of messiah. I didn't vote for him in 2016, but he is now our POTUS by the strange providence of our Creator, and I am delighted to know that Trump is doing incredibly important things that you are overlooking. If President Trump survives, alive and in office, I believe that he will CRUSH America's domestic enemies--even if he horrifies you by so doing. (And it turns out that it is easy to demonstrate that Q is Trump's authorized leaker--i.e., the POTUS himself is ultimately the Man Behind the Curtain. The creation of Q seems to be a military-style psyop designed to keep the public relatively calm and safe when the excrement hits the ventilator. As Q has said repeatedly: YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE SAFE.)
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And here's the clincher: You have given no meaningful thought to the fact that as of July 31 of this year, there were 45,468 sealed federal indictments in the federal court system (sealed since 10/31/17, according to pacer.gov). The annualized rate for these sealed indictments is fifty-six times higher than ever before in history. It's a matter of government record--and although a shockingly significant statistic, it is even more significant for the fact that the MSM is not talking about it at all.
Hilarious stuff @the_doc . I had time to waste so I looked up the sealed indictments thing and found this...
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/ (https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/)
Even if not all sealed criminal cases are indictments, doesn’t a massive uptick in sealed cases mean a massive uptick in sealed indictments?
It doesn’t, because routine court matters in district courts are usually handled by lower-level magistrate judges. And the FLC report found over 15,000 sealed magistrate judge cases, with many others not in the Electronic Court Filing system that feeds into PACER.
A random sampling of these files showed 83 percent of sealed magistrate cases to be warrant applications or tracking devices. They are NOT indictments, but #QAnon’s number includes them anyway. We know this from their own methodology.
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But we do know, at the very least, that the massive numbers of “sealed indictments†being thrown around by #QAnon believers is inaccurate, and isn’t being compared to previous years correctly.
Meanwhile, sealed indictment mania is a conspiracy theory that feeds itself, and will continue to, by adding more numbers to an essentially meaningless tally, and pretending it’s a portend of things to come.
Mike Rothschild
Mike Rothschild is a writer who specializes in researching and debunking conspiracy theories and fringe beliefs. He also writes about politics, history, and breaking news.
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Hey there - my blog was linked upthread a bit so I saw some referral clicks, came through and saw the discussion. I won't stick around long, just saw some misinformation about Q and thought I'd set the record straight on some things.
I do recall a Q tweet many weeks ago suggesting that the Clintons and John Podesta would be arrested soon (or at least his tweet was interpreted by many Q followers as intimating that such an event was coming soon indeed). As I recall, Q's tweet didn't give a date for any such thing--at least, not a "certain date" (your language).
This was probably referring to one of the first Q posts, back in the 4chan days, that predicted massive nationwide riots and martial law after the arrest announcements of Huma Abedin and John (or maybe Tony) Podesta in early November.
Nov 1 2017 21:56:16 (EST)
Q Clearance Patriot
My fellow Americans, over the course of the next several days you will undoubtedly realize that we are taking back our great country (the land of the free) from the evil tyrants that wish to do us harm and destroy the last remaining refuge of shining light. On POTUS’ order, we have initiated certain fail-safes that shall safeguard the public from the primary fallout which is slated to occur 11.3 upon the arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4). Confirmation (to the public) of what is occurring will then be revealed and will not be openly accepted. Public riots are being organized in serious numbers in an effort to prevent the arrest and capture of more senior public officials. On POTUS’ order, a state of temporary military control will be actioned and special ops carried out. False leaks have been made to retain several within the confines of the United States to prevent extradition and special operator necessity. Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full. However, the atmosphere within the country will unfortunately be divided as so many have fallen for the corrupt and evil narrative that has long been broadcast. We will be initiating the Emergency Broadcast System (EMS) during this time in an effort to provide a direct message (avoiding the fake news) to all citizens. Organizations and/or people that wish to do us harm during this time will be met with swift fury – certain laws have been pre-lifted to provide our great military the necessary authority to handle and conduct these operations (at home and abroad).
This was one of the first things that brought Q into the limelight, and weirdly, the failure didn't do much to discourage his following. Making fake predictions that don't come true is weirdly good publicity if you're trying to run a prophecy cult operation.
Nowadays Q doesn't make specific predictions very much, it's true. The last really solid one was that the IG report on the Clinton email investigation would be heavily redacted. It wasn't, so he switched to basically "I meant the one released was actually a whitewash by Rosenstein and there's a secret version that blows the lid off everything that Trump will make public via EO at some point." Presumably around the same time he unseals all the indictments and sends the entire DNC to Gitmo.
By the way, Q rarely gives EXACT DATES about ANYTHING in the PLAN or the intelligence thereunder. But his revelations are still shocking for their subsequently revealed veracity. The first of many examples of this, one that I saw way back in 2017, concerned a would-be suicide bomber from Bangladesh who would soon injure himself with a bunch of firecrackers that he would believe were high explosives. Well, this bizarre incident did happen in NYC soon after Q's cryptically humorous tweet. There are a number of other examples of such crazy intelligence on Q's part--which goes to show that Q is someone plugged into American counterintelligence, including sting operations.
This one is way inaccurate. Here's the post that "predicted" the attack, on December 10th.
Blunt & Direct Time.
Adam Schiff is a traitor to our country.
Leaker.
NAT SEC.
EVIL.
Tick Tock.
Hope the $7.8mm was worth it.
Enjoy the show.
Q
The next day, a Bangladeshi guy was arrested in New York for trying to suicide bomb a subway station with a homemade pipe bomb (not fireworks). Q sashayed back into his thread to declare he'd predicted the attempted bombing, because in the above post, he'd capitalized Blunt & Direct Time = BDT = the currency abbreviation for the Bangladeshi Taka! Clearly a prediction that there'd be some Bangladeshi shenanigans.
He had also mentioned to watch out for false flags in a later post, but Q's always going on about false flags. He'd said to expect a big one on November 2nd last year - nothing happened - then "more false flags imminent" on November 5th. Also nothing.
There are loads of other examples of Q's failed predictions. There's always some rationalization - they had to set the timetable back, they arrested everybody but then secretly let them go, it was disinformation to throw off the conspiracy, etc.
But beyond that Q's been repeatedly caught photoshopping some of the photos he's posted - even by his supporters. He had one post of a reflection of AF1 in an iPhone, but it was later proven that he took an Obama-era photo and photographed a reflection of it in the back of an iPhone case. In response to this he claimed he was trolling. Another time, he posted what he claimed was an advance copy of an executive order (but with most of it covered up so you can't really verify the text), but the letterhead had a double-headed eagle instead of the single-headed eagle of actual WH letterhead.
He's supposed to be some high-level military intelligence guy but he has awful password security - his first password was literally just Matlock, and he typed the second one into the subject field of one of his posts before sending it (though he later claimed that both of these screwups were part of his master plan). His early posts had some real howlers like writing "Command and Chief" instead of "Commander in Chief." Whoever's running the account is clever at building a following, props to them, but they had a real learning curve. Even the name is nonsense - it comes from the fact that he claims to have Q clearance, but that would mean he's part of the Department of Energy.
Q's absolutely, undoubtedly nonsense.
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Hilarious stuff @the_doc . I had time to waste so I looked up the sealed indictments thing and found this...
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/ (https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/sealed-indictments-qanon-conspiracy/)
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The difference between sealed cases and sealed indictments surely is important to maintain for overall accuracy, so, thanks for the scoop. I will tighten up my terminology (and also look into the data further).
Still, an important point seems to have been glossed over by the "debunking" researcher: the data compiled from pacer.gov represent a huge number of investigations of federal crimes. The geographical frequency map shows the highest concentrations of sealed cases in cities that are already suspected for being high-crime locales, but that same map is auspicious for the fact that the suspected criminality being charted rises to the level of investigations for federal crimes--not just tallying the number of homicide investigations in Chicago, for example. (The overwhelming majority of criminal matters have nothing to do with violations of federal statutes. Most criminal matters are State criminal matters. And I have heard from lawyering sources that the "uptick" of federal law enforcement--versus, say, 2006 rates-- is big.)
(As an aside, even matters "handed off" from Federal District Judges to "lower level magistrates" are still federal investigations. I am not at all surprised that Federal District Courts have procedures in place to move the federal court workload--now more than 5000 per month and still going strong [even speeding up recently]--down to lower-level judicial designates.)
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@heckocopter, thanks for the input. You're welcome to stick around if you like.
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@the_doc
I know the media is corrupt. We've known that for a long time. And we've seen them send out talking points before. It's not a new thing.
I suspect that you know less about the Clintons than you think you do. (Heck, a lot of anti-Hillary folks, here on TBR, don't know the most important facts about her. As another "heck," a lot of folks here on TBR think Obama really was born in Hawaii. [Enough said?])
I know that Hillary Clinton is a lousy individual and a crook and that she should be behind bars. Beyond that, I don't give her a thought. She's an unwell (I think), aging woman who's over and done and in our rearview mirrors. But she is not snacking on children. I really don't understand the obsession with her.
I also don't think you know much about the worldwide mess of pedophilia and about Satanic Ritual Abuse. (One Hollywood insider, Isaac Kappy, has said concerning these things in Hollywood, "It's worse than you think.")
I'm sure. Child-trafficking is an international problem. Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.
The average number of sealed federal indictments for a full year is documented as barely over 1,000 for a full year. Something BIG is happening, and yet you just aren't interested. I would dare to point out that your incredulity has wound up aligning you with the MSM. (I respectfully submit that you seem to be a kind of sleepwalker who dreams that she's awake.)
Because I don't believe that the British royals are cannibals? That's fine, lol.
Finally, let me say, as I have said over and over on TBR, I do not regard Trump as a kind of messiah. I didn't vote for him in 2016, but he is now our POTUS by the strange providence of our Creator, and I am delighted to know that Trump is doing incredibly important things that you are overlooking. If President Trump survives, alive and in office, I believe that he will CRUSH America's domestic enemies--even if he horrifies you by so doing. (And it turns out that it is easy to demonstrate that Q is Trump's authorized leaker--i.e., the POTUS himself is ultimately the Man Behind the Curtain. The creation of Q seems to be a military-style psyop designed to keep the public relatively calm and safe when the excrement hits the ventilator. As Q has said repeatedly: YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE SAFE.)
Well, messiah, deliverer, whatever, but I don't know what else you'd call the Trump this hoax is putting forth. I mean, he's going to solve--no, sorry, crush---the evildoers of the world. As for that last sentence? Dude, somebody sitting behind a computer screen doesn't have the power to guarantee my safety or anyone else's. Wth, come on.
I don't understand why you seem to get irritated when you're confronted with people who don't believe the Q thing. I'm sure you don't expect everyone to join up.
It's a shame Butterdezillion was banned at TOS. She would have been in her element. And damn, Humblegunner's posts to her would have been epic.
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@heckocopter, thanks for the input. You're welcome to stick around if you like.
DITTOS.
@heckocopter
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Thanks for the info, @heckocopter, and welcome!
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He's supposed to be some high-level military intelligence guy but he has awful password security - his first password was literally just Matlock, and he typed the second one into the subject field of one of his posts before sending it (though he later claimed that both of these screwups were part of his master plan). His early posts had some real howlers like writing "Command and Chief" instead of "Commander in Chief." Whoever's running the account is clever at building a following, props to them, but they had a real learning curve. Even the name is nonsense - it comes from the fact that he claims to have Q clearance, but that would mean he's part of the Department of Energy.
Q's absolutely, undoubtedly nonsense.
People have a strong urge to 'be in on something' ... to know things that other people don't know.
The fact that Q's predictions are vague and often wrong does not deter his followers one bit.
It's a cult.
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People have a strong urge to 'be in on something' ... to know things that other people don't know.
The fact that Q's predictions are vague and often wrong does not deter his followers one bit.
It's a cult.
@Emjay agreed
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For the uninitiated:
There is a 31 page, 51,765 Views megathread on Q-Anon etc. in the Alt Realities forum here:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.0.html)
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@Emjay agreed
Then you'd both be outrageously and horribly, thoroughly wrong.
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People have a strong urge to 'be in on something' ... to know things that other people don't know.
The fact that Q's predictions are vague and often wrong does not deter his followers one bit.
It's a cult.
Dream on. And prepare to have your flawed reality testing seriously adjusted in the not too distant future.
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For the uninitiated:
There is a 31 page, 51,765 Views megathread on Q-Anon etc. in the Alt Realities forum here:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.0.html)
As a loyal lifetime member of the officially "uninitiated".... and....as a big fan of crib notes....
could you summarize and list a few of the so-called Q predictions that actually have come true and occurred as predicted?
(just curious but too lazy and/or uninterested to read 31 pages)
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@the_doc
I know the media is corrupt. We've known that for a long time. And we've seen them send out talking points before. It's not a new thing.
I know that Hillary Clinton is a lousy individual and a crook and that she should be behind bars. Beyond that, I don't give her a thought. She's an unwell (I think), aging woman who's over and done and in our rearview mirrors. But she is not snacking on children. I really don't understand the obsession with her.
I'm sure. Child-trafficking is an international problem. Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.
Because I don't believe that the British royals are cannibals? That's fine, lol.
Well, messiah, deliverer, whatever, but I don't know what else you'd call the Trump this hoax is putting forth. I mean, he's going to solve--no, sorry, crush---the evildoers of the world. As for that last sentence? Dude, somebody sitting behind a computer screen doesn't have the power to guarantee my safety or anyone else's. Wth, come on.
I don't understand why you seem to get irritated when you're confronted with people who don't believe the Q thing. I'm sure you don't expect everyone to join up.
It's a shame Butterdezillion was banned at TOS. She would have been in her element. And damn, Humblegunner's posts to her would have been epic.
I guess you are not well informed about the Jimmy Saville (sp?) fiasco for the royals? The Queen may be a 'nice lady' to have tea with . . . but there has long been plenty of horrible darkness surrounding more than a few royals . . . back, certainly, to Montbatten. Your assumptions appear to be quite askew from the facts.
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As a loyal lifetime member of the officially "uninitiated".... and....as a big fan of crib notes....
could you summarize and list a few of the so-called Q predictions that actually have come true and occurred as predicted?
(just curious but too lazy and/or uninterested to read 31 pages)
There are several compilations of the proofs. I'll see if I can track some down. I know some are listed in the long alt realities forum thread but that's far too much to search through.
Here's a short listing of some of the Q-Anon PROOF compilations:
https://qanonproofs.com/ (https://qanonproofs.com/)
"#QANON PROOFS"
Please keep in mind that certainly in the earlier stages, Q-Anon posted somewhat like God does in our reality: He provided ample proof for those with insight and discernment while leaving enough fuzzy wiggle room for those who chose to disbelieve.
As time has gone on, the proofs have become more overt and clear.
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PRAYING MEDIC:
His longer proofs thread
https://subtletv.com/baamx1P/Q_Anon_Proofs__-_July_9_Long_Version (https://subtletv.com/baamx1P/Q_Anon_Proofs__-_July_9_Long_Version)
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NEON REVOLT IS ONE OF THE BEST commentators/ decoders etc. His stuff is usually fairly detailed and very perceptive, sharp, discerning, accurate.
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/06/13/where-are-the-proofs-qanon-greatawakening/ (https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/06/13/where-are-the-proofs-qanon-greatawakening/)
QUOTE:
Where Are the Proofs!? #NewQ #QAnon #GreatAwakening
June 13, 2018 by Neon Revolt
Okay, I have to first apologize for all the site issues of late. If you’ve been encountering errors and such – yes – I found out the site has been under attack.
If you follow me on Gab, you’ve seen all the status updates, but in short, it looked like a renegade plugin was wrecking things at first, and when that turned out to not be the case, it was determined that a team of bots was attacking the site.
I installed and upgraded countermeasures today, so we’ll see how that all goes, but it was like trying to wrangle a wild beast. It would twist, and I would pull back. It would thrash, and I would rein it in. It would snarl and bite, and I would grit my teeth and hang on.
So hopefully, hopefully the issue is solved.
In the meantime, let’s get into the latest #Qanon drops, starting with where I got cut off last night.
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PART 3 OF PROOFS THAT Q-ANON IS REAL
http://agamefun.com/videofun-Q-ANON--@jasonawright7-The-45-Proofs-Q-ANON-Is-Real-(Part-3)_fsuHZWBfap9A.html (http://agamefun.com/videofun-Q-ANON--@jasonawright7-The-45-Proofs-Q-ANON-Is-Real-(Part-3)_fsuHZWBfap9A.html)
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https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/q-anon/ (https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/q-anon/)
presents an early stage discussion of the then 9,000+ sealed indictments. Now there are more than 40,000 sealed indictments.
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WGA NETWORK: Q ANON RESEARCH CHANNEL:
http://we-go-all.net/q-evidence.html (http://we-go-all.net/q-evidence.html)
Evidence abounds that Q is a true high-level insider in the Trump administration, likely with one or more team members in military intelligence. In fact, there is more evidence that Trump endorses Q than the media pundit arguing the loudest against Q at present.
Anyone suggesting that Q is live action role playing (LARPing) or was concocted by a couple of pranksters working in their mother's basement have either not researched Q thoroughly or has their own agenda. There is simply too much foreknowledge/prediction of clandestine operations and world events and coordination with Trump tweets/speeches for this to be possible.
When you read the following, remember that Q has said that everything is connected, and there are no coincidences.
This is who Q claims to be:
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Q ANON: 387 QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
(mixed bag)
https://medium.com/@DrDannielle/q-anon-387-questions-answers-b1bba56afa1d (https://medium.com/@DrDannielle/q-anon-387-questions-answers-b1bba56afa1d)
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PRAYING MEDIC:
Q ANON UPDATE APRIL 20--THE WAR IS REAL
https://prayingmedic.com/2018/04/20/q-anon-update-war-real/ (https://prayingmedic.com/2018/04/20/q-anon-update-war-real/)
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There are several compilations of the proofs. I'll see if I can track some down. I know some are listed in the long alt realities forum thread but that's far too much to search through.
Ok, thanks Quix!
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As a loyal lifetime member of the officially "uninitiated".... and....as a big fan of crib notes....
could you summarize and list a few of the so-called Q predictions that actually have come true and occurred as predicted?
(just curious but too lazy and/or uninterested to read 31 pages)
If you were to choose one or 2 of the PROOF compilations I listed earlier, I'd suggest choosing PRAYING MEDIC's AND NEON REVOLT's.
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If you were to choose one or 2 of the PROOF compilations I listed earlier, I'd suggest choosing PRAYING MEDIC's AND NEON REVOLT's.
Ok... I sense a slow news day and most of my ToDos are done... so I'll try to catch up (just for the helluvit).
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Ok... I sense a slow news day and most of my ToDos are done... so I'll try to catch up (just for the helluvit).
Great. I look forward to your perspectives on all such. Cheers.
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If you look to the center right of the photo you'll spot an upside-down green rectangular container. If you follow the top lip of the container vertically a little higher you will spot a tan wheel with a tan stick in front of it...
forming a perfect Q.
Are you Q @edpc ?
Follow the White Rabbit
Arise / Invoke / Eagle / Sponge / Asparigus
Please Don't Squeeze The Charmin
I9<5@17 Slacks 5535
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I guess you are not well informed about the Jimmy Saville (sp?) fiasco for the royals? The Queen may be a 'nice lady' to have tea with . . . but there has long been plenty of horrible darkness surrounding more than a few royals . . . back, certainly, to Montbatten. Your assumptions appear to be quite askew from the facts.
@Quix
Jimmy Savile—-British celebrity who was knighted, and who turned out to be a prolific child molester.
In the world of Q believers, he was involved with the global cabal, the Rothschilds, and he was knighted as a thank-you for serving up kids to the royal family of molesters and cannibals. So “serving up†literally.
Oh, and he was friends with the Beatles, who were also members of the secret global cannibal child-raping ring, and John Lennon was about to blow the lid off, which is why the globalists had him killed.
Q, most people are just not going to believe this mess.
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If you look to the center right of the photo you'll spot an upside-down green rectangular container. If you follow the top lip of the container vertically a little higher you will spot a tan wheel with a tan stick in front of it...
forming a perfect Q.
Are you Q @edpc ?
Follow the White Rabbit
Arise / Invoke / Eagle / Sponge / Asparigus
Please Don't Squeeze The Charmin
I9<5@17 Slacks 5535
wwg1wga! We are ALL Negan!
So watch it.
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@Quix
Jimmy Savile—-British celebrity who was knighted, and who turned out to be a prolific child molester.
In the world of Q believers, he was involved with the global cabal, the Rothschilds, and he was knighted as a thank-you for serving up kids to the royal family of molesters and cannibals. So “serving up†literally.
Oh, and he was friends with the Beatles, who were also members of the secret global cannibal child-raping ring, and John Lennon was about to blow the lid off, which is why the globalists had him killed.
Q, most people are just not going to believe this mess.
Many of the Jews did not choose to believe Hitler's mess either--until gas came out of the shower heads instead of water.
I remain convinced that at some not too distant point, sane folks will not have much choice but to accept the avalanches of evidence piling into the public awareness layers deep and from many highly convincing sources and proofs.
The clinically delusional always retain their idiosyncratic choices about their constructions on reality--but that's a different issue.
Time will tell.
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Many of the Jews did not choose to believe Hitler's mess either--until gas came out of the shower heads instead of water.
I remain convinced that at some not too distant point, sane folks will not have much choice but to accept the avalanches of evidence piling into the public awareness layers deep and from many highly convincing sources and proofs.
The clinically delusional always retain their idiosyncratic choices about their constructions on reality--but that's a different issue.
Time will tell.
Ok. I followed links to a few places... one to a forum where I got no real answers... and another to a site where I couldn't scroll down for some reason... and another where the information was mish-mashed in such a form that it gave me a headache.
So, can you just post two examples right here, right now, where Q's predictions came true without me having to take aspirin in order to find out? lol
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Are you Q @edpc ?
Nope. Completely straight. Not even bi Q-rious.
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@Quix
Jimmy Savile—-British celebrity who was knighted, and who turned out to be a prolific child molester.
In the world of Q believers, he was involved with the global cabal, the Rothschilds, and he was knighted as a thank-you for serving up kids to the royal family of molesters and cannibals. So “serving up†literally.
Oh, and he was friends with the Beatles, who were also members of the secret global cannibal child-raping ring, and John Lennon was about to blow the lid off, which is why the globalists had him killed.
Q, most people are just not going to believe this mess.
Because:
1. Normalcy bias is incredibly powerful. Particularly when dramatic alterations of the normal view of things portends wrenching hazards, discomfort, waves of fear, greatly altered schemes of understanding of reality, horrific disconfirmation that the individual's understanding of things before had been terribly inadequate to wholesale wrong etc. etc.
2. Inertia. It takes a huge lot to move folks to a new construction on reality. Comfort zones are quite powerful. The unknown is quite fearsome.
3. Rationalizations tend to be automatic, intense, deeply entrenched, skillful, handy.
4. Fear about being the duck with his head up that gets selected first for the pot is real.
5. Bewilderment about "what then" is intense and real.
6. Even fantasies about what is real, normal, comforting, comfortable, stable etc. are greatly preferred over fearsome chaos, mystifying dynamics, complex factoids, shocking uncommon revelations, reversals of what is right, safe, predictable etc.
7. RAD--Attachment Disordered, hyper-rationalist, 'intellectual superiors' (in their own eyes), stubborn, narrow, rigid, arrogant, insecure types are particularly resistant to changing their constructions on reality--even when the raging freight train of new facts is a mere 100 feet away.
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Nope. Completely straight. Not even bi Q-rious.
Not even.....
this guy....?
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10700000/Q-Judge-q-star-trek-10759419-694-530.jpg)
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Ok. I followed links to a few places... one to a forum where I got no real answers... and another to a site where I couldn't scroll down for some reason... and another where the information was mish-mashed in such a form that it gave me a headache.
So, can you just post two examples right here, right now, where Q's predictions came true without me having to take aspirin in order to find out? lol
Not right now. Maybe later in the day. It takes me a lot of searching through the mass of data, too. I don't carry all this stuff in my active memory. LOL.
Shortly, I'm going back to bed. I'm up in the middle of my 'night.'
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Not even.....
this guy....?
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10700000/Q-Judge-q-star-trek-10759419-694-530.jpg)
Nah. Ensign Ro was more my type.
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Not right now. Maybe later in the day. It takes me a lot of searching through the mass of data, too. I don't carry all this stuff in my active memory. LOL.
Shortly, I'm going back to bed. I'm up in the middle of my 'night.'
Lol.... you have insomnia too then, I take it. Ok.....
later.
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Nah. Ensign Ro was more my type.
In the movie....I bet you also liked....
Nyota Uhura
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/f/f8/Nyota_Uhura%2C_alternate_reality.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20160726231247&path-prefix=en)
I still have the hots for Chris Pine.
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wwg1wga! We are ALL Negan!
So watch it.
@XenaLee
So I’m not the only one who thought of that, lol.
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@XenaLee
So I’m not the only one who thought of that, lol.
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In the movie....I bet you also liked....
Nyota Uhura
I’ve really tried to like the reboots, but they’re just not the same. Maybe it’s all the J.J. Abrams lens flare stuff I just can’t get past.
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I’ve really tried to like the reboots, but they’re just not the same. Maybe it’s all the J.J. Abrams lens flare stuff I just can’t get past.
Yeah....
that stuff is/was pretty idiotic. Good thing we're not suffering from epilepsy...lolol.
Hey...come to think of it... that lens flare crap is discrimination against epileptics!
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Dream on. And prepare to have your flawed reality testing seriously adjusted in the not too distant future.
Oooooh. I"m shaking now. Can't wait for the adjustment.
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@XenaLee
(https://i.imgur.com/0uM0NLU.gif)
And why? Because he's hot
(https://i.imgur.com/sQOEjlz.gif)
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@XenaLee
(https://i.imgur.com/0uM0NLU.gif)
And why? Because he's hot
(https://i.imgur.com/sQOEjlz.gif)
Lol! Well....in the show... he would have, might have been hot (to me) before finding out what a literal POS he was in that character. But in person, he seems like a good guy with a sense of humor.
But in the show, I'm apparently stuck in the mode of only liking the good guys. happy77
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Lol! Well....in the show... he would have, might have been hot (to me) before finding out what a literal POS he was in that character. But in person, he seems like a good guy with a sense of humor.
But in the show, I'm apparently stuck in the mode of only liking the good guys. happy77
@XenaLee
I’m just kidding...I can’t like Negan because I can’t forget what he’s done. Objectively I think he looks good, and I dislike myself for it, lol.
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Lol.... you have insomnia too then, I take it. Ok.....
later.
I tend to have to spend some time clearing my sinuses etc. in the middle of the night. And, most of my life, I've been able to sleep when sleepy and do other things when not sleepy. Have never thought of it as insomnia. Evidently humans over most of their history have slept in a couple of periods per night. Evidently there are health benefits from doing so. I may sleep in 2-4 jumps per night with 1-3 hours of computing between them. Never thought of it as a problem. Still don't.
Now the fact that the starting and ending of that time has resulted in getting up most of the time, now, around noon--that could be improved on by jiggling things back to sleeping mostly during the dark hours. LOL. But given that I live alone, it's still not a significant problem except when I need to set an alarm for the traditional Sonday lunch with the guys.
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@XenaLee
(https://i.imgur.com/0uM0NLU.gif)
And why? Because he's hot
(https://i.imgur.com/sQOEjlz.gif)
The actor is attractive but I will never forgive Negan because he created or marked the end of my love affair with The Walking Dead. I miss it, but can never go back.
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Lol.... you have insomnia too then, I take it. Ok.....
later.
Where'd everybody go? I don't really have cooties!
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@Quix
@the_doc
I know the media is corrupt. We've known that for a long time. And we've seen them send out talking points before. It's not a new thing.
The fact that it's "not a new thing" is way more significant than you realize. And you have not necessarily figured out the correct antecedent of "them." The identity of "them" is important. (The First Amendment's protection of Freedom of the Press does not extend to sedition--which is a capital crime [a fact that today's arrogantly stupid journalists may not even realize].)
I know that Hillary Clinton is a lousy individual and a crook and that she should be behind bars. Beyond that, I don't give her a thought. She's an unwell (I think), aging woman who's over and done and in our rearview mirrors. But she is not snacking on children. I really don't understand the obsession with her.
By way of response, let me first point out that there are disturbingly believable reports of Satan Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Hollywood, including cannibalism. Actor Isaac Kappy has very recently declared that "It's worse than you think."
Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism. Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge. Nothing came of the case. In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report. More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all. (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)
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Finally on this point, I will say that to my knowledge, Q has never insinuated that HRC has indulged in cannibalism. I have stopped short of making such an accusation, despite the fact that there are non-Q sources vigorously making that very accusation. HRC is a witch. And it is worth remembering that she travels in the same circles as the "spirit cooking" Hollywood elites who seem to be desperate to have Trump impeached, or better still, assassinated. In any case, I think I should repeat Kappy's warning: "It's worse than you think."
I'm sure. Child-trafficking is an international problem. Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.
Child-trafficking is a terrible problem all over the world. Worse still, it does appear to have a big component of SRA.
Because I don't believe that the British royals are cannibals? That's fine, lol.
I have never said that the UK's Royal Family is a bunch of cannibals. Q has never said that the UK Royal Family is involved in pedophilia, much less cannibalism. But it is inarguably true that the Royals have had very bad associations with pedophiles. (This is a matter of public knowledge in the UK. Q's followers have extrapolated [from that] along the lines of what they have heard from Q about MI6 complicity in a conspiracy against Trump. [Included in the ugly mix is a videotaped dying confession by an MI6 assassin that he rigged the murder of Princess Diana on the orders of Prince Phillip.])
Well, messiah, deliverer, whatever, but I don't know what else you'd call the Trump this hoax is putting forth. I mean, he's going to solve--no, sorry, crush---the evildoers of the world. As for that last sentence? Dude, somebody sitting behind a computer screen doesn't have the power to guarantee my safety or anyone else's. Wth, come on.
I don't understand why you seem to get irritated when you're confronted with people who don't believe the Q thing. I'm sure you don't expect everyone to join up.
Heck, I'm not even surprised at, much less frustrated by your disbelief, my friend. And by the way, I am not praying for vindication. I am praying for justice. (You just want HRC locked up. That would be a terrible breach of justice.)
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@Quix
The fact that it's "not a new thing" is way more significant than you realize. And you have not necessarily figured out the correct antecedent of "them." The identity of "them" is important. (The First Amendment's protection of Freedom of the Press does not extend to sedition--which is a capital crime [a fact that today's arrogantly stupid journalists may not even realize].)
By way of response, let me first point out that there are disturbingly believable reports of Satan Ritual Abuse (SRA) in Hollywood, including cannibalism. Actor Isaac Kappy has very recently declared that "It's worse than you think."
Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism. Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge. Nothing came of the case. In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report. More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all. (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)
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Finally on this point, I will say that to my knowledge, Q has never insinuated that HRC has indulged in cannibalism. I have stopped short of making such an accusation, despite the fact that there are non-Q sources vigorously making that very accusation. HRC is a witch. And it is worth remembering that she travels in the same circles as the "spirit cooking" Hollywood elites who seem to be desperate to have Trump impeached, or better still, assassinated. In any case, I think I should repeat Kappy's warning: "It's worse than you think."
Child-trafficking is a terrible problem all over the world. Worse still, it does appear to have a big component of SRA.
I have never said that the UK's Royal Family is a bunch of cannibals. Q has never said that the UK Royal Family is involved in pedophilia, much less cannibalism. But it is inarguably true that the Royals have had very bad associations with pedophiles. (This is a matter of public knowledge in the UK. Q's followers have extrapolated [from that] along the lines of what they have heard from Q about MI6 complicity in a conspiracy against Trump. [Included in the ugly mix is a videotaped dying confession by an MI6 assassin that he rigged the murder of Princess Diana on the orders of Prince Phillip.])
Heck, I'm not even surprised at, much less frustrated by your disbelief, my friend. And by the way, I am not praying for vindication. I am praying for justice. (You just want HRC locked up. That would be a terrible breach of justice.)
I don't understand what you mean by this:
That would be a terrible breach of justice.)
Otherwise, I largely agree--except that I think the horrors of child sex abuse, cannibalism, satanic ritual abuse etc. are much worse and more common than you seem to think. Montbatten was evidently heavily involved in child sex abuse. Maybe so satanic stuff.
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@heckocopter
@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix
Q's absolutely, undoubtedly nonsense.
I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance. (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)
In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee). I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.
Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840)
See you soon, I hope. (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.)
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@heckocopter
@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix
I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance. (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)
In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee). I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.
Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840)
See you soon, I hope. (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.)
You're a better, more patient man on such scores than I am at this point.
To me, at this point, the evidence is soooooooooooooooo overwhelming that there is no longer any rational reason for contrarian naysayers to continue their ignorant stances.
i understand why they disagree with that assertion.
I also understand . . . that sadly . . . I seem to be greatly better at assessing such issues than they are. I'm very comfortable with my track record on such scores.
From where I sit, they are terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree.
Yeah, I have opinions.
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I don't understand what you mean by this:
That would be a terrible breach of justice.)
Otherwise, I largely agree--except that I think the horrors of child sex abuse, cannibalism, satanic ritual abuse etc. are much worse and more common than you seem to think. Montbatten was evidently heavily involved in child sex abuse. Maybe so satanic stuff.
You missed the operative word in the previous sentence: "You [Catherine] just want her locked up."
Pardon me for being obtuse, but I thought it went without saying that incarceration is not the correct sentence.
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The more widespread this nonsense becomes mainstream, the less funny it is.
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@CatherineofAragon
@Quix
I forgot to mention something pretty important in my recent post to you, Catherine.
You said:
Trump on a secret 007 mission to magically solve it all, to the point of faking the Mueller investigation, is something altogether different.
I have to point out that most of Q's followers have not bought into the theory now being floated around to the effect that the Mueller investigation is a sting operation against the Deep State. Q has been rather mysterious in his way of talking about Mueller, but Q has said in the past that he does not want to be understood as declaring that Mueller is a "white hat."
There is a lot of political theater surrounding the whole mess. Besides, there is info in Q's cryptic tweets--but there is also a possibility of tactically deliberate misinfo. Q may have to thread the needle of disclosure and the needle of psyop deception pretty carefully.
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You're a better, more patient man on such scores than I am at this point.
To me, at this point, the evidence is soooooooooooooooo overwhelming that there is no longer any rational reason for contrarian naysayers to continue their ignorant stances.
i understand why they disagree with that assertion.
I also understand . . . that sadly . . . I seem to be greatly better at assessing such issues than they are. I'm very comfortable with my track record on such scores.
From where I sit, they are terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree.
Yeah, I have opinions.
@Quix
Don't we all. The Q believers on Twitter are the same. They get angry when people don't buy into what they're selling.
I read that's one of the hallmarks of a true conspiracy theorist. One was---are they willing to consider that they could be wrong, or are they vehemently convinced? And how do they respond when you decline to become a believer---do they leave it at that, or do they keep going, doggedly trying to evangelize, finally becoming upset when they hit a brick wall?
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The actor is attractive but I will never forgive Negan because he created or marked the end of my love affair with The Walking Dead. I miss it, but can never go back.
@Emjay
Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?
That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV. But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.
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Keanu Reeves, in fact, has bluntly declared that Hollywood elites have dabbled in ritualistic cannibalism. Reeves claimed that he even filed a police report about one cannibalism incident concerning which he had first-hand knowledge. Nothing came of the case. In response to Reeves's public disclosure of the incident----a disclosure he made in a recent interview after he left Hollywood, declaring that he would never go back to that sick place--the LA Sheriff's Department claimed that Reeves had filed no such report. More recently, as I understand the matter, the Sheriff's Department did find his prior complaint--one that was never thoroughly investigated if at all. (LA's locals have long complained that Hollywood's celebrities and moguls are practically treated as untouchables--especially when the suspected crimes are really ugly.)
@the_doc
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/)
None of this was true: Although Reeves had recently attended a motorcycle convention in Milan, the actor gave no such interview as described above while there, nor was he recorded by any other source (at any time or location) as having made comments about “Hollywood elites†drinking the blood of children. This story was completely fabricated by YourNewsWire, a fake news site that peddles in shamelessly fictional clickbait.
Within days, the false YourNewsWire story about Keanu Reeves had been pulled and the URL redirected to point to a different article on the site.
YourNewsWire previously ran a similarly false story about singer Katy Perry’s supposedly having expressed a preference for cannibalism.
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The more widespread this nonsense becomes mainstream, the less funny it is.
Change the word "nonsense" to the less arrogant word "stuff" and I will heartily agree with you.
Now that is funny, I think.
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@XenaLee
I’m just kidding...I can’t like Negan because I can’t forget what he’s done. Objectively I think he looks good, and I dislike myself for it, lol.
Agreed. :beer:
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@Emjay
Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?
That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV. But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.
What? Hadn't heard that. Leaving when?
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@the_doc
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/)
None of this was true: Although Reeves had recently attended a motorcycle convention in Milan, the actor gave no such interview as described above while there, nor was he recorded by any other source (at any time or location) as having made comments about “Hollywood elites†drinking the blood of children. This story was completely fabricated by YourNewsWire, a fake news site that peddles in shamelessly fictional clickbait.
Within days, the false YourNewsWire story about Keanu Reeves had been pulled and the URL redirected to point to a different article on the site.
YourNewsWire previously ran a similarly false story about singer Katy Perry’s supposedly having expressed a preference for cannibalism.
Thanks, the existence of YourNewsWire is news to me. It may be just as phony as snopes.com (LOL)
By the way, the snopes URL mentions "blood drinking" in connection with the presumably false (?) article about Reeves's description of Hollywood. The story I ran across did not mention blood drinking at all.
Funny that you should mention Katy Perry and cannibalism: Cannibalism aside, I saw the video of the interview in which Katy confessed that she had "sold her soul to Satan." She didn't look like she was kidding. (When you notice all of the occult garbage in her music vids, they seem to confirm that she is a full-blown Satanist.)
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@CatherineofAragon
@Quix
I forgot to mention something pretty important in my recent post to you, Catherine.
You said:
I have to point out that most of Q's followers have not bought into the theory now being floated around to the effect that the Mueller investigation is a sting operation against the Deep State. Q has been rather mysterious in his way of talking about Mueller, but Q has said in the past that he does not want to be understood as declaring that Mueller is a "white hat."
There is a lot of political theater surrounding the whole mess. Besides, there is info in Q's cryptic tweets--but there is also a possibility of tactically deliberate misinfo. Q may have to thread the needle of disclosure and the needle of psyop deception pretty carefully.
I know a guy.... from a previous forum I hung out at.... that totally fits the description of a theory conspiracy addict/cultist. I think the guy went by the nic MichaelR (memory fades).
The guy finally either got banned or left in a huff, but it sounds about like something he would have 'come up with' (ie this whole Q stuff).... come to think of it.... to get back the much needed attention he apparently craved. Hmmm....
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@Emjay
Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?
That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV. But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.
Yes. Because of that episode . It made me sick and I just couldn't watch it any more. They made a big mistake with that episode because I think they lost a lot of viewers.
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Thanks, the existence of YourNewsWire is news to me. It may be just as phony as snopes.com (LOL)
By the way, the snopes URL mentions "blood drinking" in connection with the presumably false (?) article about Reeves's description of Hollywood. The story I ran across did not mention blood drinking at all.
Funny that you should mention Katy Perry and cannibalism: Cannibalism aside, I saw the video of the interview in which Katy confessed that she had "sold her soul to Satan." She didn't look like she was kidding. (When you notice all of the occult garbage in her music vids, they seem to confirm that she is a full-blown Satanist.)
Is this stuff for real? If so... it 'might' explain the high number of suicides among such ""famous"" people (I didn't even know who she was ... had to look it up).
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=lKquBixWL24#)
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@heckocopter
@Emjay
@CatherineofAragon
@Quix
I will be delighted to respond to your critique of the Q Phenomenon when I get a chance. (I need to point out some things that you have overlooked, my new TBR friend.)
In the meantime, I would urge you to check out Quix's Post #50 to a sincere questioner on this thread (@Xena Lee). I can fill in some important blanks in your perspective later.
Also in the meantime, I urge you to read the internet essay copied in Post #1531 onto another thread: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.msg1760840.html#msg1760840)
See you soon, I hope. (My TBR time is pretty limited, as yours may be, too.)
Thanks. I did have a look at that post and one thing jumped out at me as factually wrong--
Please keep in mind that certainly in the earlier stages, Q-Anon posted somewhat like God does in our reality: He provided ample proof for those with insight and discernment while leaving enough fuzzy wiggle room for those who chose to disbelieve.
As time has gone on, the proofs have become more overt and clear.
This seems to be rationalizing the fact that early on, Q made a lot of specific predictions that were definitively, verifiably wrong. "Huma Abedin's arrest will be announced on November 4th, and there will be riots and martial law." "Watch for false flags today." He learned his lesson and stopped.
Now, instead, he makes vague hints at things that are in the news and then claims credit for "predicting" when someone mentions something similar later on. This way, he can claim foreknowledge, but he can't be proven wrong, because his claims are basically never specific enough. He still manages, though, every month now there's some generic idea for how Big Things are Happening but nothing ever comes of it. "March Madness - Public will know soon." Hmm. Next up, April was supposed to be Arrests Month, and a huge month for the Awan case. Exactly nobody of any note was arrested in April, and Awan took a plea deal in June.
I would be happy to go through each of those proofs you posted but there simply isn't enough time in the day. I will say this though. The motive doesn't make sense. If Q wants to straightforwardly prove that he has an inside link to Trump, it would be completely simple for him to go to Trump and say "Donald, let me know the exact wording of your next tweet before you post it, and I'll post it first. Then everyone will know this thing is for real." Clear, unambiguous proof.
In fact a lot of these sites have fake "proofs" that claim to show this exact scenario, but none of them are actually real - the timezones don't match. Whenever Q quotes a Trump tweet, it's after Trump said it. Q supporters seem to recognize that this would be a reasonable proof of foreknowledge. So, why not do it?
Instead, we get vague pronouncements that go nowhere, cropped pics of somebody's ear, glamor shots of a pen, and people finding that Trump said some phrase months after it appeared in a Q post.
The usual rationalization for this is that Q's secrets are only for the faithful, and proving it so openly would ruin this somehow. That does not make this sound any less like a cult.
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You're a better, more patient man on such scores than I am at this point.
Thanks. I am a loveable, patient, teddy bear. [LOL]
The problem is that I tend to stand my ground in a way that makes online folks assume that I'm angry.
Well, nope, I'm not angry. I'm not even impatient. It's all because I am a thoroughly Calvinistic Christian. I am sometimes a bit confrontational in the way I present my positions--seeking to elicit some kind of thoughtful reaction by my opponents--but I am not the least bit interested in notching my polemical gun. The very idea is stupid. Still, I'm not willing to walk quickly away from the field when I think the Truth is at stake.
Maybe I'm wrong in my self-examination, but I suspect that I care more about the Truth than most people do. (Heck, I even like your Alternate Realities threads! And as you know, I believe that most of the naysayers on those threads are mostly COMPLETE A_HOLES. [LOL])
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You missed the operative word in the previous sentence: "You [Catherine] just want her locked up."
Pardon me for being obtuse, but I thought it went without saying that incarceration is not the correct sentence.
Good. I'd agree then. Drawn & quartered is more what she has earned & begged for.
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Thanks, the existence of YourNewsWire is news to me. It may be just as phony as snopes.com (LOL)
By the way, the snopes URL mentions "blood drinking" in connection with the presumably false (?) article about Reeves's description of Hollywood. The story I ran across did not mention blood drinking at all.
Funny that you should mention Katy Perry and cannibalism: Cannibalism aside, I saw the video of the interview in which Katy confessed that she had "sold her soul to Satan." She didn't look like she was kidding. (When you notice all of the occult garbage in her music vids, they seem to confirm that she is a full-blown Satanist.)
Am quite willing to go on record that the blood drinking & cannibalism & ritual sacrifice, raping babies & toddlers etc. will all turn out to be FAR WORSE AND FAR MORE COMMON than even the most convinced of us expect.
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@Quix
Don't we all. The Q believers on Twitter are the same. They get angry when people don't buy into what they're selling.
I read that's one of the hallmarks of a true conspiracy theorist. One was---are they willing to consider that they could be wrong, or are they vehemently convinced? And how do they respond when you decline to become a believer---do they leave it at that, or do they keep going, doggedly trying to evangelize, finally becoming upset when they hit a brick wall?
For me--it depends hugely on the sequence of events--when, after what amount of study & research etc. did someone become a 'true believer.' And do they become idiotically closed minded or do they still have some capacity to reason and consider evidence at all fair-mindedly.
In my case, I have 53 years of study of the globalist oligarchy under my belt--studying from extreme left across to extreme right etc. etc. etc.
I will note that my mother and her father knew about the oligarchy and their deliberate cause of the Great Depression--I heard that growing up as a kid.
I have a moderate amount of study of satanism's inroads into the culture and their rituals.
I haved 56 years of study into UFO's etc. under my belt.
In terms of Q-Anon--the globalism study has been a rich treasure trove of verification. OF COURSE I'd believe Q-Anon--because they obviously know the same historical facts I do.
At this point in time, I don't expect many even very bright people to wake-up very soon. I hope I haven't become too cynical but the evidence is massively in that direction because of the overt brazen stupidity and ignorance of such a huge percentage of the masses--even of many geniuses. It boggles my mind.
I just pray that the ultimate disclosure is devastatingly convincing and leaves all the clueless idiots speechless and temporarily catatonic. I think it will take that potent & dramatic a disclosure to change a lot of very rigid, closed minds.
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@the_doc
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keanu-reeves-blood-drinking/)
None of this was true: Although Reeves had recently attended a motorcycle convention in Milan, the actor gave no such interview as described above while there, nor was he recorded by any other source (at any time or location) as having made comments about “Hollywood elites†drinking the blood of children. This story was completely fabricated by YourNewsWire, a fake news site that peddles in shamelessly fictional clickbait.
Within days, the false YourNewsWire story about Keanu Reeves had been pulled and the URL redirected to point to a different article on the site.
YourNewsWire previously ran a similarly false story about singer Katy Perry’s supposedly having expressed a preference for cannibalism.
I think you are massively too eager to conclude such hasn't been true.
I've usually found that even the most outrageous claims can contain a grain of truth.
And it is an absolute fact that it was the most flaky groups making the most outrageous claims who first and MOST ACCURATELY IDENTIFIED WHO HITLER WAS, WOULD BECOME AND WHAT HE WOULD DO.
In the current arena, the worst rumored so far, will turn out to have been a weak, wimpy, cursory description of stuff that has long been many times over far worse than any of the rumors.
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Thanks. I did have a look at that post and one thing jumped out at me as factually wrong--
This seems to be rationalizing the fact that early on, Q made a lot of specific predictions that were definitively, verifiably wrong. "Huma Abedin's arrest will be announced on November 4th, and there will be riots and martial law." "Watch for false flags today." He learned his lesson and stopped.
Now, instead, he makes vague hints at things that are in the news and then claims credit for "predicting" when someone mentions something similar later on. This way, he can claim foreknowledge, but he can't be proven wrong, because his claims are basically never specific enough. He still manages, though, every month now there's some generic idea for how Big Things are Happening but nothing ever comes of it. "March Madness - Public will know soon." Hmm. Next up, April was supposed to be Arrests Month, and a huge month for the Awan case. Exactly nobody of any note was arrested in April, and Awan took a plea deal in June.
I would be happy to go through each of those proofs you posted but there simply isn't enough time in the day. I will say this though. The motive doesn't make sense. If Q wants to straightforwardly prove that he has an inside link to Trump, it would be completely simple for him to go to Trump and say "Donald, let me know the exact wording of your next tweet before you post it, and I'll post it first. Then everyone will know this thing is for real." Clear, unambiguous proof.
In fact a lot of these sites have fake "proofs" that claim to show this exact scenario, but none of them are actually real - the timezones don't match. Whenever Q quotes a Trump tweet, it's after Trump said it. Q supporters seem to recognize that this would be a reasonable proof of foreknowledge. So, why not do it?
Instead, we get vague pronouncements that go nowhere, cropped pics of somebody's ear, glamor shots of a pen, and people finding that Trump said some phrase months after it appeared in a Q post.
The usual rationalization for this is that Q's secrets are only for the faithful, and proving it so openly would ruin this somehow. That does not make this sound any less like a cult.
I think you are trying to sieve micron bits of gold with a 1/4" sieve. No way are you going to detect the truth of the matter. Your screens are far too coarse. And that coarseness appears to be tied with a huge chain to your ego etc. etc. etc.
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For me--it depends hugely on the sequence of events--when, after what amount of study & research etc. did someone become a 'true believer.' And do they become idiotically closed minded or do they still have some capacity to reason and consider evidence at all fair-mindedly.
In my case, I have 53 years of study of the globalist oligarchy under my belt--studying from extreme left across to extreme right etc. etc. etc.
I have a moderate amount of study of satanism's inroads into the culture and their rituals.
I haved 56 years of study into UFO's etc. under my belt.
In terms of Q-Anon--the globalism study has been a rich treasure trove of verification. OF COURSE I'd believe Q-Anon--because they obviously know the same historical facts I do.
You and I are practically twins. My interest in the globalists was piqued in 1963 (55 years ago), but it took off in a big way 50 years ago. My studies of occult beliefs started a bit later. (Really eerie stuff!)
BTW, I have noticed that a lot of the TBR people following Q and the like are older guys and gals like us, who remember the ominous revelations about the "political Insiders" in about 1968. For us, the whole sordid mess of our day fits together with what we already knew (especially in view of Biblical warnings about "principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places").
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Thanks. I am a loveable, patient, teddy bear. [LOL]
The problem is that I tend to stand my ground in a way that makes online folks assume that I'm angry.
Well, nope, I'm not angry. I'm not even impatient. It's all because I am a thoroughly Calvinistic Christian. I am sometimes a bit confrontational in the way I present my positions--seeking to elicit some kind of thoughtful reaction by my opponents--but I am not the least bit interested in notching my polemical gun. The very idea is stupid. Still, I'm not willing to walk quickly away from the field when I think the Truth is at stake.
Maybe I'm wrong in my self-examination, but I suspect that I care more about the Truth than most people do. (Heck, I even like your Alternate Realities threads! And as you know, I believe that most of the naysayers on those threads are mostly COMPLETE A_HOLES. [LOL])
Agreed.
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What? Hadn't heard that. Leaving when?
@XenaLee
Yes I guess he had enough of spending so much time away from his family. He’ll do six episodes for the ninth season, and they’re going to kill him off.
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You and I are practically twins. My interest in the globalists was piqued in 1963 (55 years ago), but it took off in a big way 50 years ago. My studies of occult beliefs started a bit later. (Really eerie stuff!)
BTW, I have noticed that a lot of the TBR people following Q and the like are older guys and gals like us, who remember the ominous revelations about the "political Insiders" in about 1968. For us, the whole sordid mess of our day fits together with what we already knew (especially in view of Biblical warnings about "principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places").
Well put. Quite so. Thanks.
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@XenaLee
Yes I guess he had enough of spending so much time away from his family. He’ll do six episodes for the ninth season, and they’re going to kill him off.
Oh gaaawwd.... I hate it when that happens. Not my Rick! (not my Carl, not my Glenn, etc., etc., lolol)
I see that Maggie (Lauren Cohan) is in a new movie, Mile 22. Looks interesting.
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Change the word "nonsense" to the less arrogant word "stuff" and I will heartily agree with you.
Now that is funny, I think.
It is nonsense. You guys have your little rubber room to discuss all this here on the forum. We don't go in there and dump on what you think. So, quit bringing this garbage into the rest of it.
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Oh gaaawwd.... I hate it when that happens. Not my Rick! (not my Carl, not my Glenn, etc., etc., lolol)
I see that Maggie (Lauren Cohan) is in a new movie, Mile 22. Looks interesting.
@XenaLee
Lol, it's like they keep upping the ante every damn time! It's going to be so bad when it happens.
I saw a trailer for her movie...is it Mark Wahlberg? Brace yourself because
She's only doing six episodes, too. And she's out. 8888crybaby
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@XenaLee
Lol, it's like they keep upping the ante every damn time! It's going to be so bad when it happens.
I saw a trailer for her movie...is it Mark Wahlberg? Brace yourself because
She's only doing six episodes, too. And she's out. 8888crybaby
This... is a perfect example (probably) of why I hate change. It seems to always equate to something that I DON'T want! :laugh:
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It is nonsense. You guys have your little rubber room to discuss all this here on the forum. We don't go in there and dump on what you think. So, quit bringing this garbage into the rest of it.
To be fair @edpc ,YOU started the thread here about Q... Do you expect them not to defend? That ain't right. And no, I am not defending Q at all.
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This... is a perfect example (probably) of why I hate change. It seems to always equate to something that I DON'T want! :laugh:
YES!
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I wish we had a crying beer emoji
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To be fair @edpc ,YOU started the thread here about Q... Do you expect them not to defend? That ain't right. And no, I am not defending Q at all.
With respect @edpc I'm going to agree with @roamer_1 here. I have not seen the q anon stuff other than this specific thread. I think @Quix and @the_doc have expressed their genuine thoughts. I honestly think the 4 pages of links says more about the q anon thing than anything I could say to disparage it.
but I share your frustration and dismay that clearly intelligent people get sucked into this stuff. I'm a little sympathetic because I believed a lot of kooky stuff when Clinton orchistrated Ruby Ridge and Waco, with the help of the Trilateral Commission and the CFR. I got better.
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To be fair @edpc ,YOU started the thread here about Q... Do you expect them not to defend? That ain't right. And no, I am not defending Q at all.
Defend what, that we're going to have military tribunals for Obama, Hillary, and the worldwide pedo ring "soon"....? It's effing stupid.
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It is nonsense. You guys have your little rubber room to discuss all this here on the forum. We don't go in there and dump on what you think. So, quit bringing this garbage into the rest of it.
1. IIRC, I was pinged to this thread. I normally consider it good manners to respond to pings.
2. You, in your narrow, rigid, constipated, terminally uninformed, prissy, haughty, smug, cheeky way can call the alt realities forum a rubber room, if you wish. Some of us prefer to think of it as a great egalitarian venue where atypical, fringe, unusual, paranormal, non-kosher, non-Politically-Correct, alternative, etc. postulations, hypotheses, events, sequences, topics, relationships, observations can be discussed with mutual respect by folks with markedly above average IQ's. It's kind of understandable that you don't feel you would fit in all that well.
3. Spewing garbage seems to be in the eye and mouth of the spewer. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. Perhaps you haven't lived long enough to realize that.
4. imho, the thoughtfulness, perceptiveness, discernment, analyses, observations, logic, wealth of background etc. commonly displayed on the Alt Realities forum is markedly above average for blog websites.
5. And, actually, our mutual caring and respect is quite above average, as well. That might be a challenging construct for you to wrap your understanding around. However, learning to grok the idea of mutual respect could be a fruitful exercise for your life.
6. On the other hand, with different fingers, given how likely it is that you'll continue on your unmerry way dispensing waves of haughty hostility to all you construe as not measuring up to your Majestic Loftiness--you are welcome to trod such paths elsewhere as you and crew find fitting.
7. And we will exercise our powers of observation and our powers of discriminating between good vs bad to mark your displays of charity as a great example of where NOT to go. I'm not entirely sure I've translated what I wanted to communicate sufficiently into your language but I have tried to do so.
Cheers.
cc: @the_doc
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1. IIRC, I was pinged to this thread. I normally consider it good manners to respond to pings.
2. You, in your narrow, rigid, constipated, terminally uninformed, prissy, haughty, smug, cheeky way can call the alt realities forum a rubber room, if you wish. Some of us prefer to think of it as a great egalitarian venue where atypical, fringe, unusual, paranormal, non-kosher, non-Politically-Correct, alternative, etc. postulations, hypotheses, events, sequences, topics, relationships, observations can be discussed with mutual respect by folks with markedly above average IQ's. It's kind of understandable that you don't feel you would fit in all that well.
3. Spewing garbage seems to be in the eye and mouth of the spewer. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. Perhaps you haven't lived long enough to realize that.
4. imho, the thoughtfulness, perceptiveness, discernment, analyses, observations, logic, wealth of background etc. commonly displayed on the Alt Realities forum is markedly above average for blog websites.
5. And, actually, our mutual caring and respect is quite above average, as well. That might be a challenging construct for you to wrap your understanding around. However, learning to grok the idea of mutual respect could be a fruitful exercise for your life.
6. On the other hand, with different fingers, given how likely it is that you'll continue on your unmerry way dispensing waves of haughty hostility to all you construe as not measuring up to your Majestic Loftiness--you are welcome to trod such paths elsewhere as you and crew find fitting.
7. And we will exercise our powers of observation and our powers of discriminating between good vs bad to mark your displays of charity as a great example of where NOT to go. I'm not entirely sure I've translated what I wanted to communicate sufficiently into your language but I have tried to do so.
Cheers.
cc: @the_doc
Can I copyright and patent this? It's a surefire cure for insomnia.
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Defend what, that we're going to have military tribunals for Obama, Hillary, and the worldwide pedo ring "soon"....? It's effing stupid.
"It's effing stupid."
I do confess that it is quite conceivable that you are an expert on that! I'm quite willing to bow to your expertise on that topic--in some respects. Though it sometimes appears that you have a problem calling "peaches" "cacti" on occasion.
Oh, BTW, when the 12 military tribunals that have been meeting for about 6 months with 12 judges each (because the death penalty is involved)--when their deliberations are made much more public, where should we congregate to pin the tail on the donkey at your house?
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Defend what, that we're going to have military tribunals for Obama, Hillary, and the worldwide pedo ring "soon"....? It's effing stupid.
@edpc
Nevertheless, or maybe rather, regardless, you provided the opportunity for them to come out from their 'rubber room' - Jeer all you like, but to expect them not to rise to defend their views is unsportsmanlike (not fair play).
If you want to contain them in AltReal, then don't make mention of it elsewhere. If you mention it elsewhere, I think they have a right to be heard. And again, I do not defend Q-Anon at all, in the least.
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@edpc
Nevertheless, or maybe rather, regardless, you provided the opportunity for them to come out from their 'rubber room' - Jeer all you like, but to expect them not to rise to defend their views is unsportsmanlike (not fair play).
If you want to contain them in AltReal, then don't make mention of it elsewhere. If you mention it elsewhere, I think they have a right to be heard. And again, I do not defend Q-Anon at all, in the least.
Thanks, Roamer. I agree. However, it does give us the thrill of a field trip away from our rubber room. LOL. It can be a bit interesting to see how normies live. And, it can leave us feeling more fortunate to realize how our padded abode helps us feel so comfortable in all the cushy Lazl-Y-Boys.
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Can I copyright and patent this? It's a surefire cure for insomnia.
Only if the royalties are sufficiently high.
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YES!
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I wish we had a crying beer emoji
@XenaLee @CatherineofAragon Y'all's discussion of Walking Dead is a lot more interesting than the Q discussion. Just saying.
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Oh, BTW, when the 12 military tribunals that have been meeting for about 6 months with 12 judges each (because the death penalty is involved)--when their deliberations are made much more public, where should we congregate to pin the tail on the donkey at your house
GTFOH with this secret tribunal tripe. Nuremburg took less than a year with an active, open hearing. Besides, a military tribunal is used on enemy combatants during a time or war or declared rebellion. Are you seriously trying to convince us we are in CW2 and nobody knows it? How do you see the screen, with that rubber nose in the way?
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Yes. Because of that episode . It made me sick and I just couldn't watch it any more. They made a big mistake with that episode because I think they lost a lot of viewers.
@Emjay
I'm pretty sure they did, too.
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1. IIRC, I was pinged to this thread. I normally consider it good manners to respond to pings.
2. You, in your narrow, rigid, constipated, terminally uninformed, prissy, haughty, smug, cheeky way can call the alt realities forum a rubber room, if you wish. Some of us prefer to think of it as a great egalitarian venue where atypical, fringe, unusual, paranormal, non-kosher, non-Politically-Correct, alternative, etc. postulations, hypotheses, events, sequences, topics, relationships, observations can be discussed with mutual respect by folks with markedly above average IQ's. It's kind of understandable that you don't feel you would fit in all that well.
3. Spewing garbage seems to be in the eye and mouth of the spewer. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. Perhaps you haven't lived long enough to realize that.
4. imho, the thoughtfulness, perceptiveness, discernment, analyses, observations, logic, wealth of background etc. commonly displayed on the Alt Realities forum is markedly above average for blog websites.
5. And, actually, our mutual caring and respect is quite above average, as well. That might be a challenging construct for you to wrap your understanding around. However, learning to grok the idea of mutual respect could be a fruitful exercise for your life.
6. On the other hand, with different fingers, given how likely it is that you'll continue on your unmerry way dispensing waves of haughty hostility to all you construe as not measuring up to your Majestic Loftiness--you are welcome to trod such paths elsewhere as you and crew find fitting.
7. And we will exercise our powers of observation and our powers of discriminating between good vs bad to mark your displays of charity as a great example of where NOT to go. I'm not entirely sure I've translated what I wanted to communicate sufficiently into your language but I have tried to do so.
Cheers.
cc: @the_doc
@Quix
To be fair, a few posts ago you were calling those of us who don't buy into the Q thing "terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree". So....
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@XenaLee @CatherineofAragon Y'all's discussion of Walking Dead is a lot more interesting than the Q discussion. Just saying.
@Emjay
@XenaLee
Well, we can take a side trip into other shows, too, if you want, lol.
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@Quix
To be fair, a few posts ago you were calling those of us who don't buy into the Q thing "terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree". So....
YOU GOT TO FAR @Quix!!!!
Horrifically!!!!
That Sir, is an unmitigated fabrication!
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@XenaLee @CatherineofAragon Y'all's discussion of Walking Dead is a lot more interesting than the Q discussion. Just saying.
Lol.... not sure that Quix would agree (sorry, Quix). But I do love to discuss TWD. It's a character flaw I've learned to live with. happy77
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@Emjay
@XenaLee
Well, we can take a side trip into other shows, too, if you want, lol.
Maybe start another thread about fav TV shows?
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Thanks, Roamer. I agree. However, it does give us the thrill of a field trip away from our rubber room. LOL. It can be a bit interesting to see how normies live. And, it can leave us feeling more fortunate to realize how our padded abode helps us feel so comfortable in all the cushy Lazl-Y-Boys.
@Quix
Goose / Gander... Respect goes both ways... But your rhetoric isn't helping things either. Jussayin.
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GTFOH with this secret tribunal tripe. Nuremburg took less than a year with an active, open hearing. Besides, a military tribunal is used on enemy combatants during a time or war or declared rebellion. Are you seriously trying to convince us we are in CW2 and nobody knows it? How do you see the screen, with that rubber nose in the way?
You haven't seen the signs and deciphered the codes. In auditing they call this 20 levels below clear. I'll explain it all when Me Elvis and Bigfoot arrive by flying saucer in approximately 17 minutes.
17 MINUTES!!! yikes!
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You haven't seen the signs and deciphered the codes. In auditing they call this 20 levels below clear. I'll explain it all when Me Elvis and Bigfoot arrive by flying saucer in approximately 17 minutes.
17 MINUTES!!! yikes!
Will Harold Camping and the Mayans be on it, too?
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Will Harold Camping and the Mayans be on it, too?
Your laughing now because the world didn't end as prophesied, but maybe it was just delayed. Your gonna be so screwed when the planet blows up...when you are least expecting it. You could have ate that left over rotisserie chicken if you had heeded the signs, but now the world is exploded on an empty stomach. How do you like that?
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Your laughing now because the world didn't end as prophesied, but maybe it was just delayed. Your gonna be so screwed when the planet blows up...when you are least expecting it. You could have ate that left over rotisserie chicken if you had heeded the signs, but now the world is exploded on an empty stomach. How do you like that?
Considering the most likely/probable messy result from the ensuing panic over the impending end of the world....
it's probably better to have not eaten. Just sayin....
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Your laughing now because the world didn't end as prophesied, but maybe it was just delayed. Your gonna be so screwed when the planet blows up...when you are least expecting it. You could have ate that left over rotisserie chicken if you had heeded the signs, but now the world is exploded on an empty stomach. How do you like that?
Meh. I survived the thing on Alderaan.
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@Quix
To be fair, a few posts ago you were calling those of us who don't buy into the Q thing "terminally, horrifically, cluelessly, stupidly, comprehensively ignorant and utterly foolish to a suicidal degree". So....
Yeah. Quite so. When folks assault our intelligence, objectivity, sanity, reality testing etc. I treat that as opening the door to similar candor in response. If they want to speak in such terms, I can match them. I'm not necessarily proud of it as it's not turning the other cheek. However, it does serve notice that I'm not willing to play the doormat role, either. I played the doormat for most of my life. Don't think it was all that good for me.
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I have good reason to believe that Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire. is tanned, ready and rested for her next assignment.
Dentist, attorney, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. (real estate broker license inactive*, however)
If it is 'foundational principles' you want, she can deliver. (cleanings, whitenings, and implants, too Plus a sublease option)
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/ (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/)
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@Quix
Goose / Gander... Respect goes both ways... But your rhetoric isn't helping things either. Jussayin.
You are right. I don't always take the high road in such exchanges. Guilty as charged. Sigh. I respect individuals and their rights to their opinions. I don't respect reflex arrogant personal assaults as behaviors. Thanks for your exhortations.
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Lol.... not sure that Quix would agree (sorry, Quix). But I do love to discuss TWD. It's a character flaw I've learned to live with. happy77
I don't even know what 'the walking dead' is. I gather it's some variety of horror show or series. Doesn't sound edifying, to me. Sounds like conditioning for death and mayhem by the oligarchy.
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YOU GOT TO FAR @Quix!!!!
Horrifically!!!!
That Sir, is an unmitigated fabrication!
Oh, like y'all's assaultive allegations? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Maybe there's a message in that.
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GTFOH with this secret tribunal tripe. Nuremburg took less than a year with an active, open hearing. Besides, a military tribunal is used on enemy combatants during a time or war or declared rebellion. Are you seriously trying to convince us we are in CW2 and nobody knows it? How do you see the screen, with that rubber nose in the way?
Stay tuned. I forget how much of that was from Q and how much from other anons.
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Meh. I survived the thing on Alderaan.
i GATHER you have NOT read POTUS Executive Order in Dec (available on the White House website) declaring a National Emergency to declare war on the horrific child sex abuse, human trafficking, outrageous corruption and high treason threatening the very existence of our Republic and authorizing the confiscation of the wealth of the guilty.
That's OK. Nothing here. Move along. Nothing here. Reality will slap naysayers upside the face with some shock-treatment revelations soon enough.
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I don't even know what 'the walking dead' is. I gather it's some variety of horror show or series. Doesn't sound edifying, to me. Sounds like conditioning for death and mayhem by the oligarchy.
Hmm.... well.... quite possibly.... its a super secret conditioning in preparation for the impending zombie apocalypse. You know.... the zombie hoards of Democrats.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=4a6YdNmK77k#)
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Lol.... not sure that Quix would agree (sorry, Quix). But I do love to discuss TWD. It's a character flaw I've learned to live with. happy77
Damn, we just watched a Talking Dead S9 preview. Carol and Ezekiel are officially a couple.
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Maybe start another thread about fav TV shows?
@XenaLee
I think you should start one, lol.
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I don't even know what 'the walking dead' is. I gather it's some variety of horror show or series. Doesn't sound edifying, to me. Sounds like conditioning for death and mayhem by the oligarchy.
@Quix
It’s gory and bloody and brutal and edifying as all hell. And there are hot men.
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Hmm.... well.... quite possibly.... its a super secret conditioning in preparation for the impending zombie apocalypse. You know.... the zombie hoards of Democrats.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=4a6YdNmK77k#)
LOLOL. I haven't forgotten your request. Just haven't felt up to it yet.
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Dream on. And prepare to have your flawed reality testing seriously adjusted in the not too distant future.
@Quix
@CatherineofAragon
Quix, what you don't get is, we will be HAPPY if people who broke the law, get arrested and tried in court. We are not going to be spell bound, out of our minds, begging for your forgiveness because someone/someones get arrested, if they do. We are not going to sell our houses, and move to Finland, or the South Pole under the ice where the outer space aliens live. If there is child molestation occurring, and law enforcement knows it, has evidence, then they are not doing their job - they are letting it continue, instead of gathering evidence and arresting these people and trying them in a count of law. Now, you say they are going to be taken to the military place, GITMO, and put in that prison, killed, whatever...
You say all these people, including Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Tillerson are having sex with kids, killing them and eating them; why are they not in jail? It is terrible to name people, usually ones with big money, and accuse them of child molestation.
I have told you one reason why there is no real person with Q clearance writing on the internet and I have another reason why that is not true. You refuse to accept my reason because you want the thrill of following Q - it is part of your exciting life.
You say Pope Francis is sacrificing children under the Vatican and in other Catholic churches around the world. Let's say he is - that does not affect my belief in Jesus Christ nor my Catholic Church. You see, our religion is based on belief in Jesus Christ, not the Pope. If a Baptist minister has sex with a child, every Baptist is not going to go crazy and stop their belief in Jesus Christ. See how that works?
You think all these arrests are going to happen just before the November election; I think you said you think it will be in September. Fine, good, excellent. Instead of putting on sack cloth (that was black goat hair back in Bible times) and mourning, we will be HAPPY these people were caught.
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@CatherineofAragon
Don't worry about the British Royal Family being into child molestation, child killing. My son knows them, made films for them; one of them being with Princess Diana. His friend is in charge of protecting the royals, down to those guarding the palace. Son would know if there was anything to this. He has lived there over 25 years, making films; a number of them for the BBC. I'll send you a PM about more of this.
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That was quite a tour-de-force! Congrats on your cleverness.
Time will tell. I won't bother about your twists and distortions of my assertions.
I don't know how soon the major public arrests will come. It's plausible that significant ones will come before Midterms. I understand there's some argument in the Trump admin about which would be best.
You seem to gloss over the fact that dealing legally and wisely with more than 45,000 sealed indictments (as verified by the state websites) is a complex, time consuming project.
You seem to make a lot of assumptions abut puzzle pieces that aren't supported by said puzzle pieces.
And I find your disbelief that the Q-anon team is real quite mystifying given your high IQ. Evidently the Q team is less than 10 people and only 3 of them are not Military Intel.
Actually, I think it's highly plausible that your son could live and work around a lot of royals for a long time and not be privy to their darker doings. I knew a fair amount about Mountbatten for decades before I learned the evil pedophilia he'd evidently been 'into' for all those decades.
Time will tell how soon 'things go down' and how horrific the evils to be disclosed.
@Quix
@CatherineofAragon
Quix, what you don't get is, we will be HAPPY if people who broke the law, get arrested and tried in court. We are not going to be spell bound, out of our minds, begging for your forgiveness because someone/someones get arrested, if they do. We are not going to sell our houses, and move to Finland, or the South Pole under the ice where the outer space aliens live. If there is child molestation occurring, and law enforcement knows it, has evidence, then they are not doing their job - they are letting it continue, instead of gathering evidence and arresting these people and trying them in a count of law. Now, you say they are going to be taken to the military place, GITMO, and put in that prison, killed, whatever...
You say all these people, including Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Tillerson are having sex with kids, killing them and eating them; why are they not in jail? It is terrible to name people, usually ones with big money, and accuse them of child molestation.
I have told you one reason why there is no real person with Q clearance writing on the internet and I have another reason why that is not true. You refuse to accept my reason because you want the thrill of following Q - it is part of your exciting life.
You say Pope Francis is sacrificing children under the Vatican and in other Catholic churches around the world. Let's say he is - that does not affect my belief in Jesus Christ nor my Catholic Church. You see, our religion is based on belief in Jesus Christ, not the Pope. If a Baptist minister has sex with a child, every Baptist is not going to go crazy and stop their belief in Jesus Christ. See how that works?
You think all these arrests are going to happen just before the November election; I think you said you think it will be in September. Fine, good, excellent. Instead of putting on sack cloth (that was black goat hair back in Bible times) and mourning, we will be HAPPY these people were caught.
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@the_doc
Hey, I like you also and am frankly surprised that you are drawn into this Q world.
I know evil exists but I am far more optimistic than you are about the extent of it.
I just don't believe it. I've read a bit of it and chose to leave it alone. You can feel free to chide me if any of those dire predictions prove to be true.
I see you like living in DENIAL. It is easier, but does not change anything. THE DOC, IS CORRECT.
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Yeah. Quite so. When folks assault our intelligence, objectivity, sanity, reality testing etc. I treat that as opening the door to similar candor in response. If they want to speak in such terms, I can match them. I'm not necessarily proud of it as it's not turning the other cheek. However, it does serve notice that I'm not willing to play the doormat role, either. I played the doormat for most of my life. Don't think it was all that good for me.
Don't turn the other cheek. That is for Christians, who believe the same. NOT FOR THE ENEMY. Not for atheist, the LEFT, the insane, evil.
You are doing well. Evil trys to use scripture, against Christians. Don't buy into that.
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That was quite a tour-de-force! Congrats on your cleverness.
Time will tell. I won't bother about your twists and distortions of my assertions.
I don't know how soon the major public arrests will come. It's plausible that significant ones will come before Midterms. I understand there's some argument in the Trump admin about which would be best.
You seem to gloss over the fact that dealing legally and wisely with more than 45,000 sealed indictments (as verified by the state websites) is a complex, time consuming project.
You seem to make a lot of assumptions abut puzzle pieces that aren't supported by said puzzle pieces.
And I find your disbelief that the Q-anon team is real quite mystifying given your high IQ. Evidently the Q team is less than 10 people and only 3 of them are not Military Intel.
Actually, I think it's highly plausible that your son could live and work around a lot of royals for a long time and not be privy to their darker doings. I knew a fair amount about Mountbatten for decades before I learned the evil pedophilia he'd evidently been 'into' for all those decades.
Time will tell how soon 'things go down' and how horrific the evils to be disclosed.
@Quix
@CatherineofAragon
Quix, what you don't get is, we will be HAPPY if people who broke the law, get arrested and tried in court. We are not going to be spell bound, out of our minds, begging for your forgiveness because someone/someones get arrested, if they do. We are not going to sell our houses, and move to Finland, or the South Pole under the ice where the outer space aliens live. If there is child molestation occurring, and law enforcement knows it, has evidence, then they are not doing their job - they are letting it continue, instead of gathering evidence and arresting these people and trying them in a count of law. Now, you say they are going to be taken to the military place, GITMO, and put in that prison, killed, whatever...
You say all these people, including Vice President Pence and Secretary of State Tillerson are having sex with kids, killing them and eating them; why are they not in jail? It is terrible to name people, usually ones with big money, and accuse them of child molestation.
I have told you one reason why there is no real person with Q clearance writing on the internet and I have another reason why that is not true. You refuse to accept my reason because you want the thrill of following Q - it is part of your exciting life.
You say Pope Francis is sacrificing children under the Vatican and in other Catholic churches around the world. Let's say he is - that does not affect my belief in Jesus Christ nor my Catholic Church. You see, our religion is based on belief in Jesus Christ, not the Pope. If a Baptist minister has sex with a child, every Baptist is not going to go crazy and stop their belief in Jesus Christ. See how that works?
You think all these arrests are going to happen just before the November election; I think you said you think it will be in September. Fine, good, excellent. Instead of putting on sack cloth (that was black goat hair back in Bible times) and mourning, we will be HAPPY these people were caught.
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Don't turn the other cheek. That is for Christians, who believe the same. NOT FOR THE ENEMY. Not for atheist, the LEFT, the insane, evil.
You are doing well. Evil trys to use scripture, against Christians. Don't buy into that.
THANKS BIG for your very worthy points, imho. I think that's my feeling . . . though my intellectualizations about it are not always in concert with those feelings. I was a scared rabbit wimp afraid of my own shadow for the first 1/3 or so of my life.
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You are right. I don't always take the high road in such exchanges. Guilty as charged. Sigh. I respect individuals and their rights to their opinions. I don't respect reflex arrogant personal assaults as behaviors. Thanks for your exhortations.
You are just fine, the way you are. Forget that "high road", more ways for evil to control you. See, they want to be ugly, but then fault you for responding in kind. Trust your instincts. I've been where you are. "Casting pearls before swine". wink777
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You are just fine, the way you are. Forget that "high road", more ways for evil to control you. See, they want to be ugly, but then fault you for responding in kind. Trust your instincts. I've been where you are. "Casting pearls before swine". wink777
Thanks for being a delightful encouragement and a treasure of a Christian brother. That you are similarly battle worn is a plus, imho.
They tend to go for the personal, person-hood jugular.
I prefer to be tweaky about their ideas, statements, assertions, assumptions, lack of perceptivity or discernment etc. They still react as though I'd stabbed them in the heart personally--but I can let that largely be their problem. I still think there's a significant difference between assaulting ideas, assumptions, statements & stances vs their person-hood--whether they can grok that distinction, or not.
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I see you like living in DENIAL. It is easier, but does not change anything. THE DOC, IS CORRECT.
There’s a surprise, lol.
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Thanks for being a delightful encouragement and a treasure of a Christian brother. That you are similarly battle worn is a plus, imho.
They tend to go for the personal, person-hood jugular.
I prefer to be tweaky about their ideas, statements, assertions, assumptions, lack of perceptivity or discernment etc. They still react as though I'd stabbed them in the heart personally--but I can let that largely be their problem. I still think there's a significant difference between assaulting ideas, assumptions, statements & stances vs their person-hood--whether they can grok that distinction, or not.
Oh come on, @Quix , be real. You can get just as personal and as bitchy as any of us here. Again I refer you back to the post where you called us ignorant, stupid, foolish, etc. You claim you made it in reaction to others getting personal with you, but if you look back at the posts, you see that’s not the case.
You made a snarky remark about @heckocopter’s ego simply because he stepped in to refute some of this stuff, but you continually let everyone know you’re the authority here so you should be paid attention to. I’m sorry but it’s give and take here.
I don’t know why it’s so important for everyone to buy into Q anyway. Apparently you know that Trump will succeed in crushing the evildoers. Should be enough, IMO.
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Evil trys to use scripture, against Christians.
The truly malevolent ignore the 'ie' and 'y' rules.
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@Emjay
Because of the episode where he killed Glenn and Abraham, you mean?
That was probably the most awful thing I've seen on TV. But I'm in it to the bitter end...which may come sooner than later, now that Andrew Lincoln is leaving.
@CatherineofAragon
That scene was replayed on that channel a short time ago, and I couldn't watch it. Could not watch them being clubbed to death again.
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Don't turn the other cheek. That is for Christians, who believe the same. NOT FOR THE ENEMY. Not for atheist, the LEFT, the insane, evil.
You are doing well. Evil trys to use scripture, against Christians. Don't buy into that.
Ok. I'll play.
Where, exactly, does the Bible say that "turn the other cheek" is meant only re: other Christians?
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Ok. I'll play.
Where, exactly, does the Bible say that "turn the other cheek" is meant only re: other Christians?
@libertybele
It doesn't. It is in the context of loving your enemies.
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@CatherineofAragon
That scene was replayed on that channel a short time ago, and I couldn't watch it. Could not watch them being clubbed to death again.
I'm not a fan of censorship of any kind...... and Lord knows, I'm not generally squeamish AT ALL....
but that episode was way over the line re: graphic brutality.... to the point of showing pure evil. Which is a dangerous thing in this era of weak/sick minds watching that might get an epiphany after observing ... and think "hey, I could do that... wonder what it would feel like... bashing someone's brains out like that".
I think they could have shot the scene and left out certain gory details, but have the same results (ie Glenn and Abraham dead from Lucille bashing).
Sometimes they go too damned far.
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@libertybele
It doesn't. It is in the context of loving your enemies.
Well.... context can be misconstrued and (lied about) used for nefarious purposes. Not a fan of "context". Hence the well-known term "taken out of context".
In addition.... you are urged to pray for your enemies... but if one of your enemies comes up and starts smacking the hell out of you, the Bible does NOT say you just have to lay there and take it.
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Well.... context can be misconstrued and (lied about) used for nefarious purposes. Not a fan of "context". Hence the well-known term "taken out of context".
@XenaLee
I am a textual critic. Context is everything. That is why folks 'misconstrue and lie for nefarious purposes'. Hence the spin doctors on every news channel.
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In addition.... you are urged to pray for your enemies... but if one of your enemies comes up and starts smacking the hell out of you, the Bible does NOT say you just have to lay there and take it.
Just caught your edit... Yes, it does... The whole 'Turn the other cheek' thing.
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@XenaLee
I am a textual critic. Context is everything. That is why folks 'misconstrue and lie for nefarious purposes'. Hence the spin doctors on every news channel.
True. But again, when it says "love your enemies" it means pray for them, not that you must allow your enemies to bash your brains out. Just sayin.... happy77
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Just caught your edit... Yes, it does... The whole 'Turn the other cheek' thing.
Then... we are at an impasse on this.... since I disagree. :shrug:
Put it this way..... if the Bible actually said that you must allow your enemies to beat or kill you...
I'll just have to disagree with the Bible on that, then.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/5/q-qanon-followers-gain-prominence-donald-trump-ral/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/5/q-qanon-followers-gain-prominence-donald-trump-ral/)
'Q' followers gain prominence at Trump rallies: 'All of us are looking for truth'
(https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2018/08/05/AP_18214710539851_c0-249-5045-3190_s885x516.jpg?e4ebcd7e04f1bbf22e079d7956f0673b2b1ec62e)
By Dave Boyer
The Washington Times
Sunday, August 5, 2018
Gary Brown of central Ohio is a follower of “Q,†the mysterious internet figure suddenly gaining prominence at President Trump’s campaign rallies.
Mr. Brown, a real estate agent and retired firefighter, began paying attention to the cryptic and frequently pro-Trump comments posted by the anonymous Q on message boards last year. He concluded that Q is better informed than the mainstream media about Washington and other topics.
“I don’t know for a fact who Q is,†Mr. Brown said. “I have strong thoughts that it certainly could be someone in the administration. All I know is, when I read what is posted on the ‘Q board,’ it seems to be more relevant and more true than what I’m reading in the papers.â€
On message boards such as QAnon.pub and 8ch.net, a person or group of people identified only as Q has been posting provocative questions about the government since October.
In a typical post, Q wrote last week about election security, “How do you safeguard the integrity of our elections from domestic & foreign criminal actors? How do you utilize the Russia narrative to knock out decades old election corruption? Why are D’s opposed to cleaning up voter rolls? Why are D’s opposed to imposing VOTER ID LAWS to further safeguard our elections?â€
More at URL above...
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True. But again, when it says "love your enemies" it means pray for them, not that you must allow your enemies to bash your brains out. Just sayin.... happy77
The principle of self defense, and more importantly, defense of others is Biblical. In fact, I haven't really studied it that way, but I would suppose the defense of others to be more-or-less commanded, as is the defense of hearth and home (your child, your wife, etc).
But it gets a little gray with defense of self. I am a great big guy, and for most of my life, I translated the 'turn the other cheek' thing pretty literally - I have always been fairly peaceable, never starting violence, And it cost me little in a fight to turn the other cheek... And then I'd crush em like a bug.
As sometimes happens with men, one of my very good friends bears my mark on his face. When I rearranged it for him, we were not friends - That happened at a later time, when I jumped in to help him when several guys were giving him the boots...
I don't say it much, and I know he's forgiven it... But I cannot look at him without a twinge of regret. I really wrecked him. And that brings to mind all the others.
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1. IIRC, I was pinged to this thread. I normally consider it good manners to respond to pings.
2. You, in your narrow, rigid, constipated, terminally uninformed, prissy, haughty, smug, cheeky way can call the alt realities forum a rubber room, if you wish. Some of us prefer to think of it as a great egalitarian venue where atypical, fringe, unusual, paranormal, non-kosher, non-Politically-Correct, alternative, etc. postulations, hypotheses, events, sequences, topics, relationships, observations can be discussed with mutual respect by folks with markedly above average IQ's. It's kind of understandable that you don't feel you would fit in all that well.
3. Spewing garbage seems to be in the eye and mouth of the spewer. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. Perhaps you haven't lived long enough to realize that.
4. imho, the thoughtfulness, perceptiveness, discernment, analyses, observations, logic, wealth of background etc. commonly displayed on the Alt Realities forum is markedly above average for blog websites.
5. And, actually, our mutual caring and respect is quite above average, as well. That might be a challenging construct for you to wrap your understanding around. However, learning to grok the idea of mutual respect could be a fruitful exercise for your life.
6. On the other hand, with different fingers, given how likely it is that you'll continue on your unmerry way dispensing waves of haughty hostility to all you construe as not measuring up to your Majestic Loftiness--you are welcome to trod such paths elsewhere as you and crew find fitting.
7. And we will exercise our powers of observation and our powers of discriminating between good vs bad to mark your displays of charity as a great example of where NOT to go. I'm not entirely sure I've translated what I wanted to communicate sufficiently into your language but I have tried to do so.
Cheers.
cc: @the_doc
@Quix
Best post I've read in a long time. Kudos! 888high58888
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The principle of self defense, and more importantly, defense of others is Biblical. In fact, I haven't really studied it that way, but I would suppose the defense of others to be more-or-less commanded, as is the defense of hearth and home (your child, your wife, etc).
But it gets a little gray with defense of self. I am a great big guy, and for most of my life, I translated the 'turn the other cheek' thing pretty literally - I have always been fairly peaceable, never starting violence, And it cost me little in a fight to turn the other cheek... And then I'd crush em like a bug.
As sometimes happens with men, one of my very good friends bears my mark on his face. When I rearranged it for him, we were not friends - That happened at a later time, when I jumped in to help him when several guys were giving him the boots...
I don't say it much, and I know he's forgiven it... But I cannot look at him without a twinge of regret. I really wrecked him. And that brings to mind all the others.
Well, defense of others is a given. No argument there.
I'm a 5'2" female... and though I don't often feel that fierce, much less look it...lolol, I have carried some type of handgun since I was in my 20's when I leave the house. I think that has given me an "air", if you will, of someone not to mess with. I posit that the confidence that being armed gives you helps to ensure that you will not be made a victim... either by bullies or by criminals. Anyway, it has worked for me. And rest assured.... if someone seeks to make me a victim, they will regret it.
Sorry to hear about your incident with the person whose face you rearranged. But... had you not done that, would you two be friends right now? (mysterious ways and all that...lol)
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Then... we are at an impasse on this.... since I disagree. :shrug:
Put it this way..... if the Bible actually said that you must allow your enemies to beat or kill you...
I'll just have to disagree with the Bible on that, then.
Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro. Micro being your personal life, and macro being the life of the larger state or nation. He says this applies to the micro community - you turn your cheek to your neighbor, spouse, children etc., but not to some guy who comes in with a gun to rob you, for instance.
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Funny how the usual suspects in the MSM all produced articles after the Florida rally calling Qanon "bizarre, fringe, dangerous," and a dozen other pejoratives. The movement has the laudable aim of researching and questioning the corruption that is rampant in the federal government. Much has already been exposed to the public Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Orr, and so many others, so the corruption should be apparent to all.
Qanon is completely non-violent despite the portrayal of the leftist media.
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Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro. Micro being your personal life, and macro being the life of the larger state or nation. He says this applies to the micro community - you turn your cheek to your neighbor, spouse, children etc., but not to some guy who comes in with a gun to rob you, for instance.
Then.... that I can agree with.
And I don't consider my neighbors to be "enemies"... even tho one of them keeps backing into/over my mailbox. I guess I have "turned the other cheek" on that... since I haven't even brought it up...lol.
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Then.... that I can agree with.
And I don't consider my neighbors to be "enemies"... even tho one of them keeps backing into/over my mailbox. I guess I have "turned the other cheek" on that... since I haven't even brought it up...lol.
Yes, our neighbors are...our neighbors. happy77
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Funny how the usual suspects in the MSM all produced articles after the Florida rally calling Qanon "bizarre, fringe, dangerous," and a dozen other pejoratives. The movement has the laudable aim of researching and questioning the corruption that is rampant in the federal government. Much has already been exposed to the public Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Orr, and so many others, so the corruption should be apparent to all.
Qanon is completely non-violent despite the portrayal of the leftist media.
Good point... and... let's not forget the misdeeds of Mueller, leader of the current witch hunt. It makes sense that they (the left) would mock anything pointing to that corruption. It's how they roll (Marxist = mock your enemies).
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@Quix
Best post I've read in a long time. Kudos! 888high58888
Blush. Gwarsh. Thanks for your kind encouraging words.
God's best to you and yours this week.
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I'm a 5'2" female... and though I don't often feel that fierce, much less look it...lolol, I have carried some type of handgun since I was in my 20's when I leave the house. I think that has given me an "air", if you will, of someone not to mess with. I posit that the confidence that being armed gives you helps to ensure that you will not be made a victim... either by bullies or by criminals. Anyway, it has worked for me. And rest assured.... if someone seeks to make me a victim, they will regret it.
I am always packing too - Though I am more of a fists or knife guy (or any other tool I can pick up)... And I have spent enough time in the woods that I always have my .45 above and to the right of my head when I sleep - And I can't sleep without it. Which most ladies, in my experience, find troubling for some reason...
It ain't that I won't defend myself, but I'll go out of my way, most the time, to keep from having to. More as a mercy to idiots than any other thing... But I don't need the weight of it on my conscience. :shrug:
Sorry to hear about your incident with the person whose face you rearranged. But... had you not done that, would you two be friends right now? (mysterious ways and all that...lol)
I have thought of it that way - and I would hope that in every case, my gentle ministrations caused folks to turn from a life of crime, or give up the violent path... Or at least, give them time to rest up and think about it from a hospital bed... But then I remember that wasn't my intention at the time. :shrug:
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Good point... and... let's not forget the misdeeds of Mueller, leader of the current witch hunt. It makes sense that they (the left) would mock anything pointing to that corruption. It's how they roll (Marxist = mock your enemies).
Reply #1542 here
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286)
includes some great stuff implicating Mueller as one of HRC's fixers from way back in the videos at that link.
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Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro.
That's probably right.
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I am always packing too - Though I am more of a fists or knife guy (or any other tool I can pick up)... And I have spent enough time in the woods that I always have my .45 above and to the right of my head when I sleep - And I can't sleep without it. Which most ladies, in my experience, find troubling for some reason...
I would take that as more of a reassuring action... since.... most burglaries and home invasions happen late at night when folks are conked out/asleep. Having a gun within reach (just in case) saves time looking for one... and could end up being a life-saver. That's how I look at it, anyway.
It ain't that I won't defend myself, but I'll go out of my way, most the time, to keep from having to. More as a mercy to idiots than any other thing... But I don't need the weight of it on my conscience. :shrug:
I have thought of it that way - and I would hope that in every case, my gentle ministrations caused folks to turn from a life of crime, or give up the violent path... Or at least, give them time to rest up and think about it from a hospital bed... But then I remember that wasn't my intention at the time. :shrug:
It may not have been your 'conscious' intention at the time... but I believe that we tend to vastly underestimate the wisdom (and subtle control) of the subconscious mind. It's the end result that matters, IMO.
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Reply #1542 here
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=297134.msg1761286#msg1761286)
includes some great stuff implicating Mueller as one of HRC's fixers from way back in the videos at that link.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
This probably has already been posted, but I'll add it in case it hasn't been (saw it at TOS).
https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed)
And... check out this list of attendees for this year's Bilderberg meeting...
http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html (http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html)
The list of topics is... interesting... to say the least.
Populism in Europe
The inequality challenge
The future of work
Artificial intelligence
The US before midterms
Free trade
US world leadership
Russia
Quantum computing
Saudi Arabia and Iran
The “post-truth†world
Current events
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Oh come on, @Quix , be real. You can get just as personal and as bitchy as any of us here. Again I refer you back to the post where you called us ignorant, stupid, foolish, etc. You claim you made it in reaction to others getting personal with you, but if you look back at the posts, you see that’s not the case.
You made a snarky remark about @heckocopter’s ego simply because he stepped in to refute some of this stuff, but you continually let everyone know you’re the authority here so you should be paid attention to. I’m sorry but it’s give and take here.
I don’t know why it’s so important for everyone to buy into Q anyway. Apparently you know that Trump will succeed in crushing the evildoers. Should be enough, IMO.
Thanks for your exhortation. I'll prayerfully ponder it and consider where I need to amend my ways.
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Thanks, I'll check it out.
This probably has already been posted, but I'll add it in case it hasn't been (saw it at TOS).
https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed)
And... check out this list of attendees for this year's Bilderberg meeting...
http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html (http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html)
Great. Thanks.
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Moving this to Alternate Realities
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Moving this to Alternate Realities
Thanks.
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@CatherineofAragon
That scene was replayed on that channel a short time ago, and I couldn't watch it. Could not watch them being clubbed to death again.
@Victoria33
I wouldn't be able to, either. The whole thing was sickening, but Glenn's eye was bad enough in itself.
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@mystery-ak @Quix
Disappointed and surprised to find a NEWS story from The Hill moved here. **nononono*
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@Sanguine
@Xena Lee
Dennis Prager says that this is macro vs. micro. Micro being your personal life, and macro being the life of the larger state or nation. He says this applies to the micro community - you turn your cheek to your neighbor, spouse, children etc., but not to some guy who comes in with a gun to rob you, for instance.
R.C. Sproul (a Reformed Presbyterian, one of their best theologians, IMO) said something like "If you attack me, I will turn the other cheek. If you lay a hand on my wife, I will kill you."
I sort of agree with Sproul. And I think Sproul's perspective runs deeper than Prager's (Judaistic?) explanation. Remember: Christ did not resist His Own murderers--who hated Him almost entirely for the message that He brought from God--but He promised a terrible response, in His Own good time, against reprobates who would soon go on to persecute His Bride, His Little Ones. (Prager would not be inclined to pick up on this, I suspect. The ethics of the meticulously codified Old Covenant are noticeably different from the ethics of the New Covenant. And as the entire Book of Hebrews stridently insists, the typological Old Covenant, although conspicuously moralistic, is dramatically inferior to its antitype, the New Covenant. [All typology is based on antithetical parallelisms. That's why the fulfillment of the type is called the antitype, in fact.] Moreover, the ethical demands of the New Covenant are noticeably higher than those of the Old. [The Old Testament, for example, permitted personal vengeance at the discretion of the "avenger of blood," whereas the New Testament of the same strange Bible disallows personal vengeance under the Gospel dispensation. We cannot harmonize the Old and New Testaments of the unified Word of God if we try to reconcile them by assuming that they are directly presenting the same ethics. Both Testaments have moral character, and the New Testament reiterates many purely moral tenets from the Old Testament, thereby confirming the parallelism between the Testaments, but the two Testaments are not presenting precisely the same ethical code. The sheer grace of God discovered in His regeneration upon conversion changes the sinner's moral motivation, even intensifying the sinner's motivation to pursue conformity to the Revealed Christ, not conformity to His type seen in the noble and inspired but admittedly inferior prophet Moses.])
Having said all that, I would now dare to point out that Sproul's epigram (about defending one's wife) did not clearly differentiate between being personally persecuted for Christ's sake--i.e. being hassled (perhaps severely or even violently) for merely espousing Christian Truth--versus getting assaulted by some criminal who is not particularly motivated by a fulminant antipathy toward Christianity (and probably neither knows nor cares whether you are a Christian). As I recall from harmonizing the gospels, Jesus Himself spoke at one point about the fact that His missionaries should take with them no carnal weapons and yet at another point, He said that they should take weapons for self-protection.
At the bottom line, this matter of "turning the other cheek" is a moderately controversial doctrinal/practical topic, because spiritual situations (and all situations are ultimately spiritual, by the way) vary all over the place. But if nothing else, the distinction that I have presented immediately above highlights what I believe is a self-evident fact that there are situations in which self-defense is inarguably just. You can definitely shoot a bad guy in many if not most situations of deadly threats against your person. The take-home point is that Quaker-style pacifism is not demanded of Christians.
(I remember a very old cartoon [probably 50 years ago in Reader's Digest] that showed a Quaker standing in his nightshirt with a pistol pointed at a burglar who had climbed through the bedroom window. The caption was this: "I would not harm thee for the world, friend, but thou standest where I am about to shoot.")
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@mystery-ak @Quix
Disappointed and surprised to find a NEWS story from The Hill moved here. **nononono*
I would like to keep all the Q articles in one place instead of scattered all over the forum.
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@heckocopter
You said: "Thanks. I did have a look at that post and one thing jumped out at me as factually wrong--
This seems to be rationalizing the fact that early on, Q made a lot of specific predictions that were definitively, verifiably wrong. "Huma Abedin's arrest will be announced on November 4th, and there will be riots and martial law." "Watch for false flags today." He learned his lesson and stopped.
Now, instead, he makes vague hints at things that are in the news and then claims credit for "predicting" when someone mentions something similar later on. This way, he can claim foreknowledge, but he can't be proven wrong, because his claims are basically never specific enough. He still manages, though, every month now there's some generic idea for how Big Things are Happening but nothing ever comes of it. "March Madness - Public will know soon." Hmm. Next up, April was supposed to be Arrests Month, and a huge month for the Awan case. Exactly nobody of any note was arrested in April, and Awan took a plea deal in June.
I would be happy to go through each of those proofs you posted but there simply isn't enough time in the day. I will say this though. The motive doesn't make sense. If Q wants to straightforwardly prove that he has an inside link to Trump, it would be completely simple for him to go to Trump and say "Donald, let me know the exact wording of your next tweet before you post it, and I'll post it first. Then everyone will know this thing is for real." Clear, unambiguous proof.
In fact a lot of these sites have fake "proofs" that claim to show this exact scenario, but none of them are actually real - the timezones don't match. Whenever Q quotes a Trump tweet, it's after Trump said it. Q supporters seem to recognize that this would be a reasonable proof of foreknowledge. So, why not do it?
Instead, we get vague pronouncements that go nowhere, cropped pics of somebody's ear, glamor shots of a pen, and people finding that Trump said some phrase months after it appeared in a Q post.
The usual rationalization for this is that Q's secrets are only for the faithful, and proving it so openly would ruin this somehow. That does not make this sound any less like a cult."
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@heckocopter, You got a nasty response from Quix, so I wanted to repost your post as it is very well written to give the reason fellow Qs have to be so secret with their information. The less they say in single words or bits of words together, the less they will be wrong. Q says people have to "research" it themselves to know what it means. That causes people to do whatever they think is "research" and post that, which causes other people to do other "research" and post that which some other Q person(s) does/do whatever they call "research" of that word or phrase, and they post that, which someone else reads and does "research".....
Some Q followers accuse other Q followers to be "wrong", so they give their version of "right". Understand thousands of people are reading all of the above and coming to love Q or hate Q. This love/hate thing started with everyone should "love" Trump and if they don't then they "hate" Trump. We have the same with Q. If one doesn't love him, that one is a scum/dirtbag and "hate" Trump and Q.
The outcome of this is, either nothing, or some people get arrested, charged, go to trial, and are guilty or not. If it is
Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump arrested, we will likely hear about it. I recall both of them did something in government. :beer:
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FWIW,
Q-Anon warned us early on that some of their drops would be DISINFORMATION, misdirection etc. for strategic reasons.
Q followers are cool with that.
Naysayers tend to seize on it and screech a lot about how wrong Q is. Dream on.
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Thanks for your exhortation. I'll prayerfully ponder it and consider where I need to amend my ways.
Quix; Do not let them beat you down. Liberals love to distort events, that happen. Your way, is NOT to be "mean" on here, but posting truth, like people being foolish, IS TRUTH. They don't want to hear it. Only those, who see themselves like that, would respond. lol They feel "convicted". I know you understand that. I call it VOLUNTEERING to be insulted. :amen: wink777 :patriot:
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"Turn the other cheek", is meant for other CHRISTIANS. NOT FOR THE ENEMY! Turn the other cheek, to allow them to CONTINUE TO HARM YOU? THAT IS NOT COMMON SENSE. The Bible, has been sooooo. distorted, for Christians own death, as used by EVIL. Evil, uses the scriptures to destroy Christians, while EVIL goes merrily along. Who started this baloney? Only Christ will be Christ-like. Humans are not Christ, although the LEFT want others to "act like Christ", while they, LIE, DISTORT, TWIST, the truth and spout scripture to use....against real Christians. Christians do need to wake up to this ploy the LEFT have found. The LEFT are moral now? I laugh. Ha. Pizzagate.
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"Turn the other cheek", is meant for other CHRISTIANS. NOT FOR THE ENEMY! Turn the other cheek, to allow them to CONTINUE TO HARM YOU? THAT IS NOT COMMON SENSE. The Bible, has been sooooo. distorted, for Christians own death, as used by EVIL. Evil, uses the scriptures to destroy Christians, while EVIL goes merrily along. Who started this baloney? Only Christ will be Christ-like. Humans are not Christ, although the LEFT want others to "act like Christ", while they, LIE, DISTORT, TWIST, the truth and spout scripture to use....against real Christians. Christians do need to wake up to this ploy the LEFT have found. The LEFT are moral now? I laugh. Ha. Pizzagate.
Unfortunately, none of that is Biblically based. Not sure where you get your opinions; I just know where you don't get them.
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Well said, The_Doc. We are on the same page. "Make your plows into swords ". The other way, all Christians would be,,,dead! That is not what God intended. We are to FIGHT evil, not make excuses for it. Not be 'nice" to it.
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Unfortunately, none of that is Biblically based. Not sure where you get your opinions; I just know where you don't get them.
Yes it is. You think Christ wants EVIL to take over? I said, the Bible has been distorted. I have attended many a Bible study. You think when Christians allow evil by turning the other cheek, they will survive? They will be extinguished. God does not want that. FIGHT evil, not defend it, support it, make excuses for it. I said, scripture has been distorted. Only God will act like God. Don't expect humans to act like God, they will always fail. Why the LEFT, PUT CHRISTIANS on some pedestal, I will never understand. That thinking is on others, not Christians. It is a journey, being spiritually mature. Common sense, wins. So, you support Christian genocide? (see, I can post like a left.)
888high58888. 888mouth
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Yes it is. You think Christ wants EVIL to take over? I said, the Bible has been distorted. I have attended many a Bible study. You think when Christians allow evil by turning the other cheek, they will survive? They will be extinguished. God does not want that. FIGHT evil, not defend it, support it, make excuses for it. I said, scripture has been distorted. Only God will act like God. Don't expect humans to act like God, they will always fail. Why the LEFT, PUT CHRISTIANS on some pedestal, I will never understand. That thinking is on others, not Christians. It is a journey, being spiritually mature. Common sense, wins. So, you support Christian genocide? (see, I can post like a left.)
888high58888. 888mouth
Matt 5:40 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; 41and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two.
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@CatherineofAragon
"In a typical post, Q wrote last week about election security, 'How do you safeguard the integrity of our elections from domestic & foreign criminal actors? How do you utilize the Russia narrative to knock out decades old election corruption? Why are D’s opposed to cleaning up voter rolls? Why are D’s opposed to imposing VOTER ID LAWS to further safeguard our elections?'â€
The above tells me Q doesn't know jack about voter lists, how they happen and how they are updated as required by law. Also, there is more than one copy of voter lists, plus paper copies - I had paper copies from numerous counties, plus disks with that information from those counties. The Russians can't destroy all voter lists. And, electronic voter machies are not hooked to the internet. They are dumb counters with a secure extra count of the votes inside it who no one except someone from the voter company can access in case there is a question about voter count.
A few days ago, I saw a presentation of how one could mess up the vote IF the machine was hooked to the internet. That would be true if one changed the machine to be able to connect to the internet - the vote could be changed. A counting machine, however, does not have the voter list on it. Only the count could be changed on that one machine. One would have to be able to put hands directly on the machine to take it apart and make it able to connect to the internet. Those machines are locked in a room, with two locks on the door. One key belongs to the election administrator and one belongs to the sheriff. Both keys must be used to get in the room. They stay there until taken to polling places by the sheriff deputies. No bad guys can get in that room and the machines are not connected to anything while in that room.
Q said: "Why are D’s opposed to imposing VOTER ID LAWS to further safeguard our elections?'â€"
They are not opposed to voter ID, they are oppossed to PICTURE Voter ID. Q messed up again.
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@Quix
@CatherineofAragon
Q said: "Why are D’s opposed to imposing VOTER ID LAWS to further safeguard our elections?'â€"
They are not opposed to voter ID, they are oppossed to PICTURE Voter ID. Q messed up again.
GREAT pick-up. (LOL)
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@Victoria33,
I gather you don't believe the confessions of at least one major voting machine vendor that they jiggled the machines to fraudulently handle the votes?
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@CatherineofAragon
I admire your wit.
Though I confess I'm curious if you 'played well with other children' as a child?
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@CatherineofAragon
I admire your wit.
Though I confess I'm curious if you 'played well with other children' as a child?
@Quix, I'm sorry, lol, but I saw that and I had to.
Actually, yes, I did. My mother taught me well.
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I am so leery of this guy. His followers are evolving into sort of a cult.
I am so impressed. I actually found this. This is great! I agree. Q is a cult.
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I am so impressed. I actually found this. This is great! I agree. Q is a cult.
NONSENSE!!!
Contrary to a cult, the Q-team insists that Q-anons must
1. Think for themselves
2. Research & deal in FACTS
3. Remember that WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER WWG1WGA
4. Avoid any reverence of leaders etc.
VERY UNcult-like priorities.
BTW, one VERY TELLING indication that the Q-team are authentic & doing a very high level potent job is the FULL COURT PRESS of derision, hostility, etc. etc. etc. by the very traitorous Marxist globalist 96% owned main stream media.
And, the Q-team are not really that into predictions. And some of their predictions have been deliberate disinformation for Sun Tzu strategic reasons.
Nevertheless, there have been several very accurate predictions made a year or so in advance. I don't have them on the tip of my memory at the moment but one could likely DUCKDUCK them.
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Quix; Do not let them beat you down. Liberals love to distort events, that happen. Your way, is NOT to be "mean" on here, but posting truth, like people being foolish, IS TRUTH. They don't want to hear it. Only those, who see themselves like that, would respond. lol They feel "convicted". I know you understand that. I call it VOLUNTEERING to be insulted. :amen: wink777 :patriot:
THANKS TONS FOR YOUR KIND WISE WORDS. Much appreciated.
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I would like to keep all the Q articles in one place instead of scattered all over the forum.
I'm honored to have the Q stuff here.
I think it is the most fitting place for such a patriotic mass psy-op.
And, it is certainly most logical to have all the Q stuff in one place.
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Oh come on, @Quix , be real. You can get just as personal and as bitchy as any of us here. Again I refer you back to the post where you called us ignorant, stupid, foolish, etc. You claim you made it in reaction to others getting personal with you, but if you look back at the posts, you see that’s not the case.
You made a snarky remark about @heckocopter’s ego simply because he stepped in to refute some of this stuff, but you continually let everyone know you’re the authority here so you should be paid attention to. I’m sorry but it’s give and take here.
I don’t know why it’s so important for everyone to buy into Q anyway. Apparently you know that Trump will succeed in crushing the evildoers. Should be enough, IMO.
OK. I receive your exhortation and will ponder how to adjust my perspective & attitude.
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NONSENSE!!!
Contrary to a cult, the Q-team insists that Q-anons must
1. Think for themselves
2. Research & deal in FACTS
3. Remember that WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER WWG1WGA
4. Avoid any reverence of leaders etc.
VERY UNcult-like priorities.
BTW, one VERY TELLING indication that the Q-team are authentic & doing a very high level potent job is the FULL COURT PRESS of derision, hostility, etc. etc. etc. by the very traitorous Marxist globalist 96% owned main stream media.
And, the Q-team are not really that into predictions. And some of their predictions have been deliberate disinformation for Sun Tzu strategic reasons.
Nevertheless, there have been several very accurate predictions made a year or so in advance. I don't have them on the tip of my memory at the moment but one could likely DUCKDUCK them.
Welll maybe Q is Donald Trump or one of his children. Seems like a cultish game to me. And if you looked at what cult means I am sure you could find a connection. People waiting for signs...……...
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Welll maybe Q is Donald Trump or one of his children. Seems like a cultish game to me. And if you looked at what cult means I am sure you could find a connection. People waiting for signs...……...
My dictionary has long been significantly different from your dictionary.
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My dictionary has long been significantly different from your dictionary.
Cult Definition: What is a cult?
Do you know the definition of a cult? In other words, what is a cult?
Sometimes it seems that question has as many answers as there are, well, cults.
Yet the term ‘cult’ has a precise definition — or rather, several precise definitions.
Which definition is the right one largely depends on the context in which the term ‘cult’ is applied.
A ‘cult wine’ is, after all, something different than a ‘religious cult.’ A rock band with a ‘cult following’ differs greatly from a ‘suicide cult.’ And a ‘cult following’ is not necessarily the same thing as ‘following a cult.’
Cult Definition
Let’s first look at the definition of the term ‘cult’ as provided by a dictionary:
1 : formal religious veneration : worship
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
b : the object of such devotion
c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
– Source: Merriam-Webster dictionary 1
The dictionary also explains the term’s etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate.
See also: History and usage of the term cult.
Cult: Meanings Vary
The term is confusing because it is ambiguous — infused with a variety of meanings depending on who uses it — and for which purpose it is used.
For example, the term ‘cult’ can be used in a theological and/or a sociological sense. The word takes on different meanings depending on the context in which it is used.
Theological
The theological sense is used when discussing major religious differences: a group or movement is theologically a cult if it identifies itself as belonging to a mainstream, recognized religion — and yet rejects or otherwise violates one or more of the central, essential teachings of that religion.
Essential teachings are those doctrines that define a given religion’s basic essence.
A silly example, but one that illustrates this concept:
You cannot call something a tomato sauce if it does not include tomatoes — because tomatoes are a central, essential ingredient (‘teaching‘ or ‘doctrine‘) of tomato sauce.
A sauce that is made with apples instead of tomatoes but is sold as ‘tomato sauce’ is a ‘cult of tomato sauce’, because it rejects one of the essential ingredients of tomato sauce, and thus misrepresents itself as something it is not.
See for instance, What is a cult of Christianity?
Sociological
The sociological sense is used when discussing behavior or other sociological aspects: a group or movement may be a cult if it acts in ways that are illegal or otherwise unacceptable in a civilized society.
Silly example:
A restaurant that serves a perfectly acceptable, genuine tomato soup by pouring it into your lap is sociologically a cult restaurant.
Destructive Cults
When most people hear the term ‘cult,’ they tend to think about destructive cults they have read or heard about. For instance, Scientology, Branch Davidians, Aum Shinrikyo, Peoples Temple, Solar Temple, the Manson Family, and so on.
Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, M.D., said that cults can be identified by three characteristics:
a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power;
a process I call coercive persuasion or thought reform;
economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie. 2
Louis West and Michael Langone defined a ‘totalist’ cult as follows:
A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea, or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control (e.g., isolation from former friends and family, debilitation, use of special methods to heighten suggestibility and subservience, powerful group pressures, information management, suspension of individuality or critical judgment, promotion of total dependency on the group and fear of leaving it, etc.) designed to advance the goals of the group’s leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community.[…]
Totalist cults are likely to exhibit three elements to varying degrees:
(1) excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment to the identity and leadership of the group by the members,
(2) exploitative manipulation of members, and
(3) harm or the danger of harm.
Totalist cults may be distinguished from “new religious movements,†“new political movements,†and “innovative psychotherapies†(terms that can be used to refer to unorthodox but relatively benign groups), if not by their professed beliefs then certainly by their actual practices.
– Source: Cultism: A Conference for Scholars-Policy Makers, Cultic Studies Journal, 1986, Volume 3, Number 1, pages 85-96 3
The characteristics of a destructive cult:
Authoritarian pyramid structure with authority at the top
Charismatic or messianic leader(s) (Messianic meaning they either say they are God OR that they alone can interpret the scriptures the way God intended…..the leaders are self-appointed.
Deception in recruitment and/or fund raising
Isolation from society — not necessarily physical isolation like on some compound in Waco, but this can be psychological isolation — the rest of the world is not saved, not Christian, not transformed (whatever) — the only valid source of feedback and information is the group
Use of mind control techniques (we use Dr. Robert Jay Lifton’s criteria from chapter 22 of his book Thought Reform & the Psychology of Totalism to compare whether the eight psychological and social methods he lists are present in the group at question)….
https://cultdefinition.com/1/cult-definition
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Cult Definition: What is a cult?
Do you know the definition of a cult? In other words, what is a cult?
Sometimes it seems that question has as many answers as there are, well, cults.
Yet the term ‘cult’ has a precise definition — or rather, several precise definitions.
Which definition is the right one largely depends on the context in which the term ‘cult’ is applied.
A ‘cult wine’ is, after all, something different than a ‘religious cult.’ A rock band with a ‘cult following’ differs greatly from a ‘suicide cult.’ And a ‘cult following’ is not necessarily the same thing as ‘following a cult.’
Cult Definition
Let’s first look at the definition of the term ‘cult’ as provided by a dictionary:
1 : formal religious veneration : worship
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
b : the object of such devotion
c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
– Source: Merriam-Webster dictionary 1
The dictionary also explains the term’s etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate.
See also: History and usage of the term cult.
Cult: Meanings Vary
The term is confusing because it is ambiguous — infused with a variety of meanings depending on who uses it — and for which purpose it is used.
For example, the term ‘cult’ can be used in a theological and/or a sociological sense. The word takes on different meanings depending on the context in which it is used.
Theological
The theological sense is used when discussing major religious differences: a group or movement is theologically a cult if it identifies itself as belonging to a mainstream, recognized religion — and yet rejects or otherwise violates one or more of the central, essential teachings of that religion.
Essential teachings are those doctrines that define a given religion’s basic essence.
A silly example, but one that illustrates this concept:
You cannot call something a tomato sauce if it does not include tomatoes — because tomatoes are a central, essential ingredient (‘teaching‘ or ‘doctrine‘) of tomato sauce.
A sauce that is made with apples instead of tomatoes but is sold as ‘tomato sauce’ is a ‘cult of tomato sauce’, because it rejects one of the essential ingredients of tomato sauce, and thus misrepresents itself as something it is not.
See for instance, What is a cult of Christianity?
Sociological
The sociological sense is used when discussing behavior or other sociological aspects: a group or movement may be a cult if it acts in ways that are illegal or otherwise unacceptable in a civilized society.
Silly example:
A restaurant that serves a perfectly acceptable, genuine tomato soup by pouring it into your lap is sociologically a cult restaurant.
Destructive Cults
When most people hear the term ‘cult,’ they tend to think about destructive cults they have read or heard about. For instance, Scientology, Branch Davidians, Aum Shinrikyo, Peoples Temple, Solar Temple, the Manson Family, and so on.
Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, M.D., said that cults can be identified by three characteristics:
a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power;
a process I call coercive persuasion or thought reform;
economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie. 2
Louis West and Michael Langone defined a ‘totalist’ cult as follows:
A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea, or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control (e.g., isolation from former friends and family, debilitation, use of special methods to heighten suggestibility and subservience, powerful group pressures, information management, suspension of individuality or critical judgment, promotion of total dependency on the group and fear of leaving it, etc.) designed to advance the goals of the group’s leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community.[…]
Totalist cults are likely to exhibit three elements to varying degrees:
(1) excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment to the identity and leadership of the group by the members,
(2) exploitative manipulation of members, and
(3) harm or the danger of harm.
Totalist cults may be distinguished from “new religious movements,†“new political movements,†and “innovative psychotherapies†(terms that can be used to refer to unorthodox but relatively benign groups), if not by their professed beliefs then certainly by their actual practices.
– Source: Cultism: A Conference for Scholars-Policy Makers, Cultic Studies Journal, 1986, Volume 3, Number 1, pages 85-96 3
The characteristics of a destructive cult:
Authoritarian pyramid structure with authority at the top
Charismatic or messianic leader(s) (Messianic meaning they either say they are God OR that they alone can interpret the scriptures the way God intended…..the leaders are self-appointed.
Deception in recruitment and/or fund raising
Isolation from society — not necessarily physical isolation like on some compound in Waco, but this can be psychological isolation — the rest of the world is not saved, not Christian, not transformed (whatever) — the only valid source of feedback and information is the group
Use of mind control techniques (we use Dr. Robert Jay Lifton’s criteria from chapter 22 of his book Thought Reform & the Psychology of Totalism to compare whether the eight psychological and social methods he lists are present in the group at question)….
https://cultdefinition.com/1/cult-definition
Thanks for proving my point.
Q-anon is quite far from a cult.