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Title: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: mystery-ak on July 18, 2019, 05:54:27 pm
 Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally

By QUINT

07/18/2019 01:01 PM EDT

Updated 07/18/2019 01:46 PM EDT


President Donald Trump claimed Thursday he “was not happy” with the crowd at his campaign rally in North Carolina the previous evening for chanting “send her back,” after he had goaded the audience with a fiery attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).

"I was not happy with it. I disagree with it. But again, I didn't say that. They did. But I disagree with it," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, adding that he “started speaking very quickly” in an attempt to silence the rally attendees.

"It was quite a chant, and I felt a little bit badly about it," Trump said, later hailing the crowd size inside the "packed arena" at Greenville's East Carolina University and boasting of the "tremendous support" and "great energy" enjoyed by the Republican Party.

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Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: rustynail on July 18, 2019, 06:02:23 pm
Throws his supporters under the bus.  That could be the end of rally crowds
and everything else.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: bilo on July 18, 2019, 06:04:29 pm
Trump was put in a no win situation by a group of supporters, too bad. He's smart to walk away from the "send her back" chant, but you can bet the perpetually offended won't let up in their criticism.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: bilo on July 18, 2019, 06:05:45 pm
Throws his supporters under the bus.  That could be the end of rally crowds
and everything else.

Not a chance. More likely supporters will be more selective in the chants they support.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Rivergirl on July 18, 2019, 06:05:48 pm
Oh yes, Trump is really smart.  A stable genius, don't you know.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 18, 2019, 06:10:00 pm
Sure he does...... *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 18, 2019, 06:23:29 pm
Oh yes, Trump is really smart.  A stable genius, don't you know.

I am far more a stable genius.
After all, I have spent most of my life in the stables.
 happy77
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 18, 2019, 06:33:03 pm
Throws his supporters under the bus.  That could be the end of rally crowds
and everything else.
:laughingdog:

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1151912062999781382


Marco Rubio @marcorubio

The tweet was wrong & the chant last night grotesque

The left wing politicians & many in the media demanding outrage are self righteous hypocrites

And the “outrage & response cycle” allows for only 2 sides & demands you pick or else

It’s a stupid game that I refuse to play
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 18, 2019, 06:37:45 pm

And the “outrage & response cycle” allows for only 2 sides & demands you pick or else

It’s a stupid game that I refuse to play

Rubio has got that right.

(http://www.leslieirishevans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tumblr_m13ffqjQtG1r9sh7mo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 06:50:00 pm
:laughingdog:

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1151912062999781382


Marco Rubio @marcorubio

The tweet was wrong & the chant last night grotesque

The left wing politicians & many in the media demanding outrage are self righteous hypocrites

And the “outrage & response cycle” allows for only 2 sides & demands you pick or else

It’s a stupid game that I refuse to play

Wow Marco discovered he actually can stand on his back legs. Let hope this is the start of something big.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: mystery-ak on July 18, 2019, 07:03:06 pm
Why is he walking to back..someone gave him bad advice imho

Now he has opened a can of worms and this will not be good enough for the rats...
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 07:09:41 pm
Why is he walking to back..someone gave him bad advice imho

Now he has opened a can of worms and this will not be good enough for the rats...

I kinda agree - he didn't start the chant. But he shoulda took charge at the time.

Anyway he can walk it back now while continuing to make Omar an unsympathetic figure, which would be exceedingly easy. By the time he's done swing voters will be chanting it too.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 18, 2019, 07:12:04 pm
Why is he walking to back..


This is someone who was a Democrat and ‘very pro-choice’ a decade ago. He can also, as president, say we’re a third world country, compared to Saudi Arabia and China, because of our infrastructure.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 18, 2019, 07:12:11 pm
"SEND HER BACK!!!"  ..... via the ballot box.    :cool:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: XenaLee on July 18, 2019, 07:20:07 pm
Now I'm really confused.   Didn't Trump tweet that part about 'go back' to where they came from....and that if they don't like America they can leave.  It's no wonder the Trump supporters took the chant there.  I mean...

duh.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: mystery-ak on July 18, 2019, 07:21:53 pm
Now I'm really confused.   Didn't Trump tweet that part about 'go back' to where they came from....and that if they don't like America they can leave.  It's no wonder the Trump supporters took the chant there.  I mean...

duh.

 pointing-up  Yep
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 07:22:13 pm
Now I'm really confused.   Didn't Trump tweet that part about 'go back' to where they came from....and that if they don't like America they can leave.  It's no wonder the Trump supporters took the chant there.  I mean...

duh.

I think the difference is in being enjoined to 'go' vs being 'sent'.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 18, 2019, 07:24:29 pm
Now I'm really confused.   Didn't Trump tweet that part about 'go back' to where they came from....and that if they don't like America they can leave.  It's no wonder the Trump supporters took the chant there.  I mean...

duh.

Yeah... he's using it to stir the pot... When it is said and done he will land on the idea that he meant they should go back to the sh*thole cities they came from and make them work... etc

Pretty transparent, what he's doing.
and a lame con, without much profit.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 18, 2019, 07:30:58 pm
Still waiting for the first Democrat to disavow their supporters' voiced wishes that Steve Scalise had died.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 18, 2019, 07:53:03 pm
Still waiting for the first Democrat to disavow their supporters' voiced wishes that Steve Scalise had died.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nebraska-democrat-removed-from-party-post-after-allegedly-wishing-scalise-dead/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nebraska-democrat-removed-from-party-post-after-allegedly-wishing-scalise-dead/)
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 18, 2019, 07:58:38 pm
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nebraska-democrat-removed-from-party-post-after-allegedly-wishing-scalise-dead/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nebraska-democrat-removed-from-party-post-after-allegedly-wishing-scalise-dead/)

Correction:  Still waiting for the first Democrat besides Jane Kleeb to disavow their supporters' voiced wishes that Steve Scalise had died.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Fishrrman on July 18, 2019, 08:04:21 pm
I agree with the crowd:
SEND HER BACK !!
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: aligncare on July 18, 2019, 08:31:55 pm
If you haven’t understood Trump by now, allow me to re-cap. Every move he makes is modulated. “How can I get the best outcome,” ie. no tie to the offensive chant, and get re-elected so as to accomplish his conservative agenda of America first) given the challenge—a hostile media bent on destroying him. Every interaction he has with the press is a negotiation. Probably relying on gut instinct and experience knowing people.

He knows his supporters and knows also that this minor concession won’t move his supporters one way or the other...

Okay, now let’s move on to the next outrage in 3...2... Oh, look, the sunrise!
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 18, 2019, 08:40:56 pm
If you haven’t understood his sycophant fan club, allow me to recap: They’ll happily swallow whatever bilge he spews and ask for seconds.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: truth_seeker on July 18, 2019, 08:42:52 pm
Correction:  Still waiting for the first Democrat besides Jane Kleeb to disavow their supporters' voiced wishes that Steve Scalise had died.

"Phil Montag, now-former co-chair of the state party’s technology committee, was recorded saying he wishes Scalise, R-La., were “dead.”

“His whole job is to get people, convince Republicans to [expletive] kick people off [expletive] health care. I’m glad he got shot,” Montag said in the audio recording. “I wish he was [expletive] dead.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrat-official-fired-after-caught-on-tape-saying-hes-glad-scalise-got-shot (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrat-official-fired-after-caught-on-tape-saying-hes-glad-scalise-got-shot)
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Absalom on July 18, 2019, 08:57:55 pm
Oh yes, Trump is really smart.  A stable genius, don't you know.
----------------------------------------
Indeed.
So Trumpet spends weeks in a noisy urinary contest w/the four musketeers.
Then the foursome shifts their abusive rants to Nancy. So what does Trumpet do???
Why ride to the rescue by getting between the Girls, telling them to get out.
Hey, what the hell did Sun-tzu know!!!!!
Next the msm starts unloading on Trumpet while his fan club picks up
the chant and what does Trumpet do now ???
Why chastise then w/a frown, sarcasm and wagging finger. Classy, huh?
Stable Genius is an understatement! Why according to his fan club,
he'd give Sargon, Pericles and Julius Caesar more than a match. Of course!
-------
On a serious note; nothing good will ever come from Trumpet who has achieved
absolutely nothing and never will. He remains a noisy buffoon, desperate for
attention since puberty, who cannot discern character, is neither prudent
nor wise and is a coward at his very core, as his draft-dodging confirms.
Replacing him on the 2020 ballot should be a priority beyond urgent!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: truth_seeker on July 18, 2019, 09:04:04 pm
If you haven’t understood his sycophant fan club, allow me to recap: They’ll happily swallow whatever bilge he spews and ask for seconds.

So I take it that between your "clever" insults ofTrump's supporters, you are narrrowing down the options for who to support?


Amash Flake, McMuffin etc?
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 18, 2019, 09:19:37 pm
So I take it that between your "clever" insults ofTrump's supporters, you are narrrowing down the options for who to support?


Amash Flake, McMuffin etc?


Yeah – let’s keep playing the ‘lesser of two evils’ game. Definitely keeps getting ‘lesser.’
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 09:38:42 pm

Yeah – let’s keep playing the ‘lesser of two evils’ game. Definitely keeps getting ‘lesser.’

I'm still open to available alternatives within the realm of reality.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 18, 2019, 10:25:38 pm
I'm still open to available alternatives within the realm of reality.

@skeeter
@edpc

As someone who did not vote for Trump last time (I wrote in Cruz) AND someone who WILL be voting for him in 2020 (barring something unforeseen)...

Skeeter (and all trumpeters):  please stop trying to browbeat people to vote against their conscience!   You say “give me someone in the realm of possibility.”  That is YOUR condition that you’re placing on someone else’s vote. How dare you?  Each of us has our one vote that we cast in accordance with the dictates of our conscience...based upon the criteria that we EACH hold dear.  You have no right to dictate to anyone else what is important to them.  Certainly not by browbeating. 

Many of these trump wars could be avoided if the trump supporters would simply accept that some conservatives don’t like their guy.  Hell I still don’t “like” him...but he’s done an acceptable job according to the dictates of MY criteria so I will reward him accordingly.

Just accept that some folks aren’t gonna get there and move on.

And edpc, we who arent in the fan club need to accept that the dictates of THEIR criteria are different as well.   There are sycophants...TBR has a couple... but mostly it’s just folks voting THEIR conscience
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 18, 2019, 10:31:17 pm
@skeeter
@edpc

As someone who did not vote for Trump last time (I wrote in Cruz) AND someone who WILL be voting for him in 2020 (barring something unforeseen)...

Skeeter (and all trumpeters):  please stop trying to browbeat people to vote against their conscience!   You say “give me someone in the realm of possibility.”  That is YOUR condition that you’re placing on someone else’s vote. How dare you?  Each of us has our one vote that we cast in accordance with the dictates of our conscience...based upon the criteria that we EACH hold dear.  You have no right to dictate to anyone else what is important to them.  Certainly not by browbeating. 

Many of these trump wars could be avoided if the trump supporters would simply accept that some conservatives don’t like their guy.  Hell I still don’t “like” him...but he’s done an acceptable job according to the dictates of MY criteria so I will reward him accordingly.

Just accept that some folks aren’t gonna get there and move on.

And edpc, we who arent in the fan club need to accept that the dictates of THEIR criteria are different as well.   There are sycophants...TBR has a couple... but mostly it’s just folks voting THEIR conscience

 goopo
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 10:47:34 pm
@skeeter
@edpc

As someone who did not vote for Trump last time (I wrote in Cruz) AND someone who WILL be voting for him in 2020 (barring something unforeseen)...

Skeeter (and all trumpeters):  please stop trying to browbeat people to vote against their conscience!   You say “give me someone in the realm of possibility.”  That is YOUR condition that you’re placing on someone else’s vote. How dare you?  Each of us has our one vote that we cast in accordance with the dictates of our conscience...based upon the criteria that we EACH hold dear.  You have no right to dictate to anyone else what is important to them.  Certainly not by browbeating. 

Many of these trump wars could be avoided if the trump supporters would simply accept that some conservatives don’t like their guy.  Hell I still don’t “like” him...but he’s done an acceptable job according to the dictates of MY criteria so I will reward him accordingly.

Just accept that some folks aren’t gonna get there and move on.

And edpc, we who arent in the fan club need to accept that the dictates of THEIR criteria are different as well.   There are sycophants...TBR has a couple... but mostly it’s just folks voting THEIR conscience

Un f**kingbelievable.

I'm browbeating no one. I'm asking for an alternative to Trump.

And for that I get the 'trumpeteer' and 'fan club' bullshit.

To anyone offended by the question, if you have no answer a simple 'I don't have an answer' will suffice. Or give me a damned alternative.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 18, 2019, 11:02:15 pm
Quote
Sean Spicier
 @sean_spicier

Like many, I also didn’t like the “Send her back” chant. It sounded like we’d be responsible for transportation...”Throw her out” would have been more appropriate
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 18, 2019, 11:10:22 pm
Un f**kingbelievable.

I'm browbeating no one. I'm asking for an alternative to Trump.

And for that I get the 'trumpeteer' and 'fan club' bullshit.

To anyone offended by the question, if you have no answer a simple 'I don't have an answer' will suffice. Or give me a damned alternative.
@skeeter

Wow did you miss the point.  YOU can’t demand someone else name an alternative for THEIR vote.
All you can demand is that YOU vote according to YOUR conscience
Period
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 18, 2019, 11:13:52 pm
@skeeter

Wow did you miss the point.  YOU can’t demand someone else name an alternative for THEIR vote.
All you can demand is that YOU vote according to YOUR conscience
Period

Making up the rules as you go along, I see.  It's always been acceptable to ask someone to name the candidate they would prefer.



Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 11:16:19 pm
@skeeter

Wow did you miss the point.  YOU can’t demand someone else name an alternative for THEIR vote.
All you can demand is that YOU vote according to YOUR conscience
Period

All I did was ask a rather obvious (and by this point redundant) question - in all honesty - in response to a comment.

Maybe some find the question embarrassing but thats their problem.

BTW a little advise - if you throw around petty completely unnecessary slights don't act surprised when someone takes offense.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 18, 2019, 11:32:13 pm
All I did was ask a rather obvious (and by this point redundant) question - in all honesty - in response to a comment.

Maybe some find the question embarrassing but thats their problem.

BTW a little advise - if you throw around petty completely unnecessary slights don't act surprised when someone takes offense.

Uh....  He's an axe slinger, after all.    :laugh:   

They claim it's not a binary choice, but they won't name somebody they'd prefer.   Just content to sit on the sidelines...arms folded, singing, "Not my circus...not my monkeys"    Truly bizarre and funny at the same time.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 18, 2019, 11:41:05 pm
Un f**kingbelievable.

I'm browbeating no one. I'm asking for an alternative to Trump.

And for that I get the 'trumpeteer' and 'fan club' bullshit.

To anyone offended by the question, if you have no answer a simple 'I don't have an answer' will suffice. Or give me a damned alternative.


My alternatives are irrelevant, since they won’t be running. For the record, they would be Thune or Cotton, with Haley as VP. The point is, you’re stuck with the incumbent. He’s not who or what you think he is. He promises to defend the Second Amendment, then asks Feinstein to include her assault weapons bill on national TV. He campaigns as the law and order candidate, then says seizure first, due process later. He promises to be pro life and defund planned parenthood, but gives them hundreds of millions, anyway. ‘I’ll never sign a bill like this again,’ until he does, this past February. He hurts farmers with his tariff war, collects his own, lies about the source, gives the money to the farmers he’s harmed, and calls it economics. The list goes on and on. He’s even got Limbaugh saying all the deficit talk was never real, anyway. Enjoy the Vaudeville show. He’s the anti-Midas. He’s always left destruction in his wake and someone else holding the bag.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: aligncare on July 18, 2019, 11:49:46 pm
A small mitigating aspect in this dust up over the chant is that overwhelmingly, president’s are re-elected. It usually takes a tanking economy or other significant screw up by the president to cause him to lose reelection.

The democrats have never been this unraveled. I know this will be disappointing to some, but the stars are aligning for Trump’s re-election. Hands down.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 18, 2019, 11:56:34 pm

My alternatives are irrelevant, since they won’t be running. For the record, they would be Thune or Cotton, with Haley as VP. The point is, you’re stuck with the incumbent. He’s not who or what you think he is. He promises to defend the Second Amendment, then asks Feinstein to include her assault weapons bill on national TV. He campaigns as the law and order candidate, then says seizure first, due process later. He promises to be pro life and defund planned parenthood, but gives them hundreds of millions, anyway. ‘I’ll never sign a bill like this again,’ until he does, this past February. He hurts farmers with his tariff war, collects his own, lies about the source, gives the money to the farmers he’s harmed, and calls it economics. The list goes on and on. He’s even got Limbaugh saying all the deficit talk was never real, anyway. Enjoy the Vaudeville show. He’s the anti-Midas. He’s always left destruction in his wake and someone else holding the bag.

For what its worth I respect your opinion.

But on the other hand it'd be easy to make the case that compared to recent GOP presidents and major political figures, Trump's been pretty good for the conservative cause.
 
Anyway even more so than in 2016 he's the only game in town.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 12:00:36 am
All I did was ask a rather obvious (and by this point redundant) question - in all honesty - in response to a comment.

Maybe some find the question embarrassing but thats their problem.

BTW a little advise - if you throw around petty completely unnecessary slights don't act surprised when someone takes offense.
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Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 19, 2019, 12:04:20 am
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No thanks I'll wait for Hardbody Harrison. He's bound to get sprung on good behavior sooner or later.

"Shut Up. Its My Time"
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 12:06:15 am
Uh....  He's an axe slinger, after all.    :laugh:   

They claim it's not a binary choice, but they won't name somebody they'd prefer.   Just content to sit on the sidelines...arms folded, singing, "Not my circus...not my monkeys"    Truly bizarre and funny at the same time.

But again @DCPatriot ....that’s their prerogative....trumpeters need to just let bygones by bygones, accept their decision.  We are each only culpable to our own conscience.

The trump wars would evaporate if both sides would simply say, “your call, friend”
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 19, 2019, 12:10:20 am
But again @DCPatriot ....that’s their prerogative....trumpeters need to just let bygones by bygones, accept their decision.  We are each only culpable to our own conscience.

The trump wars would evaporate if both sides would simply say, “your call, friend”

That would be wonderful and would be much easier to do if others would stop the constant chivvying of those who support him.

But whatever. I'm beyond tired of the whole argument and don't really know why I got involved.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: XenaLee on July 19, 2019, 12:19:24 am
@skeeter
@edpc

As someone who did not vote for Trump last time (I wrote in Cruz) AND someone who WILL be voting for him in 2020 (barring something unforeseen)...

Skeeter (and all trumpeters):  please stop trying to browbeat people to vote against their conscience!   You say “give me someone in the realm of possibility.”  That is YOUR condition that you’re placing on someone else’s vote. How dare you?  Each of us has our one vote that we cast in accordance with the dictates of our conscience...based upon the criteria that we EACH hold dear.  You have no right to dictate to anyone else what is important to them.  Certainly not by browbeating. 

Many of these trump wars could be avoided if the trump supporters would simply accept that some conservatives don’t like their guy.  Hell I still don’t “like” him...but he’s done an acceptable job according to the dictates of MY criteria so I will reward him accordingly.

Just accept that some folks aren’t gonna get there and move on.

And edpc, we who arent in the fan club need to accept that the dictates of THEIR criteria are different as well.   There are sycophants...TBR has a couple... but mostly it’s just folks voting THEIR conscience

My conscience dictates that I vote against the RL.  And even though there are those in the GOP that make me suspect (know, rather) that they have been infiltrated by the RL, I still feel compelled to vote against the RL by voting for the GOP.   It's not a good feeling... but it is one I am getting more accustomed to.... as I really don't see any viable  alternative.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 12:25:25 am
That would be wonderful and would be much easier to do if others would stop the constant chivvying of those who support him.
@skeeter

And the other side says that it’d be much easier if others would stop harassing them about their vote. What does it matter to person X, if in their mind person Y is wasting their vote?    It is most definitely a two way street.
I was very careful in my wording, deliberately so, in saying both sides need to let it ride.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: libertybele on July 19, 2019, 12:26:24 am
....So...back on topic....

I watched most of the rally and as usual Pres. Trump drew a tremendous crowd. I tend to agree; if she doesn't like it here, she is welcome to leave.  The crowd's reaction was just that; 'their' reaction.  Trump was not responsible. Omar has not only slammed Israel but America.  She slammed MY country! She slammed the crowds country!  IMHO the crowd was justified.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 12:29:21 am
My conscience dictates that I vote against the RL.  And even though there are those in the GOP that make me suspect (know, rather) that they have been infiltrated by the RL, I still feel compelled to vote against the RL by voting for the GOP.   It's not a good feeling... but it is one I am getting more accustomed to.... as I really don't see any viable  alternative.   :shrug:
@XenaLee

Exactly my point...someone may not like what your conscience dictates, but it’s none of their damn business.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Bill Cipher on July 19, 2019, 12:31:09 am
@skeeter

And the other side says that it’d be much easier if others would stop harassing them about their vote. What does it matter to person X, if in their mind person Y is wasting their vote?    It is most definitely a two way street.
I was very careful in my wording, deliberately so, in saying both sides need to let it ride.

Agreed
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: libertybele on July 19, 2019, 12:32:10 am
My conscience dictates that I vote against the RL.  And even though there are those in the GOP that make me suspect (know, rather) that they have been infiltrated by the RL, I still feel compelled to vote against the RL by voting for the GOP.   It's not a good feeling... but it is one I am getting more accustomed to.... as I really don't see any viable  alternative.   :shrug:

Exactly.  I too choose to stand against the radical left!
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 12:35:48 am
For what its worth I respect your opinion.

But on the other hand it'd be easy to make the case that compared to recent GOP presidents and major political figures, Trump's been pretty good for the conservative cause.
 
Anyway even more so than in 2016 he's the only game in town.
@skeeter

For what it’s worth, I think this is a PERFECT reply.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: XenaLee on July 19, 2019, 12:37:12 am
@XenaLee

Exactly my point...someone may not like what your conscience dictates, but it’s none of their damn business.

No, none of their business and no skin off their you know what.  Plus, it doesn't bother me if/when someone disses me for who I choose to vote for.... since I couldn't possibly care less what anyone thinks about my choice. 
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: EdJames on July 19, 2019, 12:40:21 am
For what it's worth, I'm with the "live and let live" crowd.

Seriously, who gives a tinker's damn if someone:

- says that they hate Trump?
- says that they love Trump?
- says that they will never vote for Trump?
- says that they will always vote for Trump?

It is a message forum.  (Don't be that guy/gal that can't get to jump into bed with their partner because "SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!")
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2019, 12:41:08 am
But again @DCPatriot ....that’s their prerogative....trumpeters need to just let bygones by bygones, accept their decision.  We are each only culpable to our own conscience.

The trump wars would evaporate if both sides would simply say, “your call, friend”

 888high58888   

@Axeslinger

Hard to get angry with anyone tonight....my NATS are ahead of the BRAVES 8-1 in the middle of the 3rd inning in Atlanta.    :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2019, 12:44:36 am
For what it's worth, I'm with the "live and let live" crowd.

Seriously, who gives a tinker's damn if someone:

- says that they hate Trump?
- says that they love Trump?
- says that they will never vote for Trump?
- says that they will always vote for Trump?

It is a message forum.  (Don't be that guy/gal that can't get to jump into bed with their partner because "SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!")

After 4 years now.... the fun is just watching certain NT holdouts still cling to their original position.   :beer:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 19, 2019, 12:45:20 am
Throws his supporters under the bus.  That could be the end of rally crowds
and everything else.


Yes, I would have been proud to say she should go back. 
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: edpc on July 19, 2019, 12:45:26 am
For what its worth I respect your opinion.

But on the other hand it'd be easy to make the case that compared to recent GOP presidents and major political figures, Trump's been pretty good for the conservative cause.
 
Anyway even more so than in 2016 he's the only game in town.


Well, thanks, but I think he’s kind of relabeled what conservative is, especially from a fiscal standpoint. I’ve been told by others here he’s a populist and the notion of conservatism is passé.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Chosen Daughter on July 19, 2019, 12:49:11 am
Now I'm really confused.   Didn't Trump tweet that part about 'go back' to where they came from....and that if they don't like America they can leave.  It's no wonder the Trump supporters took the chant there.  I mean...

duh.

A case of don't follow the leader.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 12:50:49 am
Uh....  He's an axe slinger, after all.    :laugh:   

They claim it's not a binary choice, but they won't name somebody they'd prefer.   Just content to sit on the sidelines...arms folded, singing, "Not my circus...not my monkeys"    Truly bizarre and funny at the same time.

@DCPatriot
To do otherwise would be to endorse that which I am adamantly against and absolutely abhor - Namely Big Fed, Big Spending liberalism. That you suppose your guy to be the lesser evil is quite beside the point. Y'all suggest that  am on the sidelines because I will not endorse your liberal against the other liberal... That is a distinction without a difference

My current choice, if no other:

[X] NONE OF THE ABOVE.

If a Conservative runs - A Conservative according to his record, I will vote for him - Hell, I'll be the first in line.

But I am sick and tired of phony 'conservatives in quotes' that do nothing to move the ball  - To include liberal Tumpy the Clown.

Never ever again.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: skeeter on July 19, 2019, 12:57:43 am
@skeeter

For what it’s worth, I think this is a PERFECT reply.

 :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2019, 12:58:29 am
@DCPatriot
To do otherwise would be to endorse that which I am adamantly against and absolutely abhor - Namely Big Fed, Big Spending liberalism. That you suppose your guy to be the lesser evil is quite beside the point. Y'all suggest that  am on the sidelines because I will not endorse your liberal against the other liberal... That is a distinction without a difference

My current choice, if no other:

[X] NONE OF THE ABOVE.

If a Conservative runs - A Conservative according to his record, I will vote for him - Hell, I'll be the first in line.

But I am sick and tired of phony 'conservatives in quotes' that do nothing to move the ball  - To include liberal Tumpy the Clown.

Never ever again.

For being a man of such a high intellect, you seem to lack any sense of pragmatism. 

IMHO, Donald Trump is a gift to us.  It's Divine Providence.   happy77
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 01:10:31 am
For being a man of such a high intellect, you seem to lack any sense of pragmatism. 


@DCPatriot

There is no pragmatism in voting for that which I abhor. A lesser liberalism is liberalism all the same. And when the Dems loft a communist, all y'all will be happily supporting a socialist.
There's your pragmatism, right there. And the stench of it is unbearable.

Quote
IMHO, Donald Trump is a gift to us.  It's Divine Providence.   happy77

Fine YOU drag his fat ass over the finish line.

As somebody said upthread... Not my circus, not my monkey.
And I really mean that. I will not be responsible for the trillions your boy is racking up.
But you will be. You support it. You endorse it freely.

As to Divine Providence, and a gift from God - You are probably more right than you know.
A people who refuse to live  by God's laws, refusing to stand on eternal truths, and sink into debauchery get the leader they deserve.

And it will be our doom.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2019, 01:14:04 am
@DCPatriot

There is no pragmatism in voting for that which I abhor. A lesser liberalism is liberalism all the same. And when the Dems loft a communist, all y'all will be happily supporting a socialist.
There's your pragmatism, right there. And the stench of it is unbearable.

Fine YOU drag his fat ass over the finish line.

As somebody said upthread... Not my circus, not my monkey.
And I really mean that. I will not be responsible for the trillions your boy is racking up.
But you will be. You support it. You endorse it freely.

As to Divine Providence, and a gift from God - You are probably more right than you know.
A people who refuse to live  by God's laws, refusing to stand on eternal truths, and sink into debauchery get the leader they deserve.

And it will be our doom.


And you believe that your non-participation gives you absolution.  That's puerile, IMO...but carry on, my friend.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 01:17:50 am
And you believe that your non-participation gives you absolution.  That's puerile, IMO...but carry on, my friend.

Actually it DOES.

The Bible warns against going with the crowd for popularity's sake , and against supporting lies just because the crowd does. To be honorable and stand upon principle can not be against God.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 19, 2019, 01:28:09 am
So it was, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out and stood in the entrance of the cave. Suddenly a voice came to him, and said, “What are you doing here, Elijah?”  And he said, “I have been very zealous for the Lord God of hosts; because the children of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars, and killed Your prophets with the sword. I alone am left; and they seek to take my life.”  Then the Lord said to him: “Go, return on your way to the Wilderness of Damascus; and when you arrive, anoint Hazael as king over Syria.  Also you shall anoint Jehu the son of Nimshi as king over Israel. And Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abel Meholah you shall anoint as prophet in your place.  It shall be that whoever escapes the sword of Hazael, Jehu will kill; and whoever escapes the sword of Jehu, Elisha will kill.  Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”

1 Kings 19:13-18
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 01:44:58 am
After 4 years now.... the fun is just watching certain NT holdouts still cling to their original position.   :beer:
I hope it's as entertaining as watching President Trump struggling to read the teleprompter.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 01:50:06 am
As to Divine Providence, and a gift from God - You are probably more right than you know.
A people who refuse to live  by God's laws, refusing to stand on eternal truths, and sink into debauchery get the leader they deserve.

And it will be our doom.


Anthony Cornrod @TWIT_ANTHONY
May 21

Follow me, as I follow Him. Our leader, our lover, and the Father of America. President Trump will be winning every election from here on out!
We follow Him through the fires of the afterscape.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 02:16:45 am

Anthony Cornrod @TWIT_ANTHONY
May 21

Follow me, as I follow Him. Our leader, our lover, and the Father of America. President Trump will be winning every election from here on out!
We follow Him through the fires of the afterscape.

That is insanity.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 02:27:38 am
That is insanity.

Well I think we just figured out LA’s real name
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 19, 2019, 02:31:04 am
Deutschland Ãœber Alles
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 02:33:54 am
That is insanity.
It's not real.  It's a parody account...almost as funny as https://twitter.com/walterowensgrpa


Walter(Owen's Grandp @walterowensgrpa
3 hours ago

Very upset about all these Islams invading our country to have more voting power so they can force their culture on us and turn us into Europe with the socialism (such as sharia law) ,,, just like they did when they took over Europe (no go zones) ,,wow
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 19, 2019, 02:39:35 am
(https://i.imgur.com/H4Uamvh.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 02:51:34 am
It's not real.  It's a parody account...

Wouldn't know...

Wouldn't go to twitter if you paid me. What a train wreck.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 02:52:19 am
Well I think we just figured out LA’s real name

 :silly:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: libertybele on July 19, 2019, 02:57:09 am
(https://i.imgur.com/H4Uamvh.jpg)

Only problem is that Trump has stated that he doesn't agree with his crowd saying "send her back".  That could be a very big problem.  It sure makes him look like he's siding with the leftists. At first he calls out Omar, but then when his crowd agrees with him and voices their disapproval of her as well, he then says he doesn't agree??  He is sending a mixed message.  He'd be best to now let it go. 

Hopefully she won't ask for an apology and then he comply.  That would be game over with Omar the winner.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 02:59:05 am
Wouldn't know...

Wouldn't go to twitter if you paid me. What a train wreck.

As opposed to CNN and FOX.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 03:02:14 am
(https://i.imgur.com/H4Uamvh.jpg)

No, they're still calling you racists.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 19, 2019, 03:05:21 am
@DCPatriot
To do otherwise would be to endorse that which I am adamantly against and absolutely abhor - Namely Big Fed, Big Spending liberalism. That you suppose your guy to be the lesser evil is quite beside the point. Y'all suggest that  am on the sidelines because I will not endorse your liberal against the other liberal... That is a distinction without a difference

My current choice, if no other:

[X] NONE OF THE ABOVE.

If a Conservative runs - A Conservative according to his record, I will vote for him - Hell, I'll be the first in line.

But I am sick and tired of phony 'conservatives in quotes' that do nothing to move the ball  - To include liberal Tumpy the Clown.

Never ever again. 

(https://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Virtue-signaling-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 03:24:30 am
As opposed to CNN and FOX.


Wouldn't know.  :shrug:
Wouldn't go to CNN or FOX if you paid me. What a train wreck.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 03:26:45 am
(https://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Virtue-signaling-meme.jpg)

The accusation of virtue-signaling is the endorsement of sin.
Nice to know where you stand, @Right_in_Virginia
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 19, 2019, 03:36:05 am

Wouldn't know.  :shrug:
Wouldn't go to CNN or FOX if you paid me. What a train wreck.
Where do you get information?  Hepatomancy?
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 03:38:43 am
Where do you get information?  Hepatomancy?

Nah.
Sticks and bones.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 19, 2019, 03:39:40 am
The accusation of virtue-signaling is the endorsement of sin.
Nice to know where you stand, @Right_in_Virginia

You've moved all the way to a double-dog dare you virtue signal.   

Pull up!  :laugh:



Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 03:42:35 am
You've moved all the way to a double-dog dare you virtue signal.   

Pull up!  :laugh:

Nope. Talkin straight as I know how.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Sighlass on July 19, 2019, 03:56:59 am
Nope. Talkin straight as I know how.

From the heart, I understood every word you said buddy.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 04:01:54 am
From the heart, I understood every word you said buddy.

 :beer: :patriot: :seeya:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: DCPatriot on July 19, 2019, 04:17:15 am
From the heart, I understood every word you said buddy.

Yeah....like some of us understand @LegalAmerican

From the heart!    :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 04:22:06 am
Yeah....like some of us understand @LegalAmerican

From the heart!    :patriot:

The difference is truth and principle versus pimping your ride.
Guess which one is which.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 19, 2019, 04:26:23 am
Nope. Talkin straight as I know how.

I've no argument with this.  You are straight in your virtue signaling.  You are damn straight in your willingness to abandon all hope at the altar of conservative correctness.  I give you kudos for your candor and I believe you are sincere.

Talkin' straight as I know how .... I think you are wrong.  And I remain hopeful that a majority of American citizens will shun what IMO is self-absorption cloaked in "principle" and continue to actually fight--in the real, imperfect and messy world-- a political enemy hell bent on our destruction.

Peace.

@roamer_1


Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 19, 2019, 04:44:22 am
I've no argument with this.  You are straight in your virtue signaling.  You are damn straight in your willingness to abandon all hope at the altar of conservative correctness.  I give you kudos for your candor and I believe you are sincere.


@Right_in_Virginia
I have abandoned no hope at all. I just know where it lies, and that sure as hell ain't in a big spending, big government liberal from NYC, and the moderate globalists of the Republican party.

Quote
Talkin' straight as I know how .... I think you are wrong.  And I remain hopeful that a majority of American citizens will shun what IMO is self-absorption cloaked in "principle" and continue to actually fight--in the real, imperfect and messy world-- a political enemy hell bent on our destruction.

Principle things are true and immovable. Standing the same through the ages.
To stand elsewhere is to endorse otherwise - Untruths... Things that will not stand the test of time.

Quote
Peace.

Nope. Not as long as y'all are calling what you do conservative.
I would not say a peep otherwise, and just be on my way... There ain't nothing common between us.
But I will rise to defend Conservatism... And rise against lies in it's name.

See you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 19, 2019, 01:02:42 pm
You are damn straight in your willingness to abandon all hope at the altar of conservative correctness.

I am not seeing any "hope" with perpetual deficits of $2 trillion, accelerated 'catch-and-release', a dramatic increase in illegal immigration, and Obamacare still on the books.  I will take Conservatism any day of the week over the Obama-II crap you are peddling. 
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Hoodat on July 19, 2019, 01:03:42 pm
Nope. Not as long as y'all are calling what you do conservative.
I would not say a peep otherwise, and just be on my way... There ain't nothing common between us.
But I will rise to defend Conservatism... And rise against lies in it's name.

See you tomorrow.


YES !!!
Title: Re: Trump disavows 'send her back' chant from his rally
Post by: Axeslinger on July 19, 2019, 09:53:28 pm
I've no argument with this.  You are straight in your virtue signaling.  You are damn straight in your willingness to abandon all hope at the altar of conservative correctness.  I give you kudos for your candor and I believe you are sincere.

Talkin' straight as I know how .... I think you are wrong.  And I remain hopeful that a majority of American citizens will shun what IMO is self-absorption cloaked in "principle" and continue to actually fight--in the real, imperfect and messy world-- a political enemy hell bent on our destruction.

Peace.

@roamer_1
@Right_in_Virginia
For the record you were one of [Insult Redacted] I spoke of earlier