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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Machiavelli on November 20, 2017, 07:56:11 pm
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Maegan Vazquez and Ahiza Garcia
CNN
November 20, 2017
President Donald Trump took to Twitter to criticize Oakland Raiders running back Marshawn Lynch early Monday morning.
After photographs surfaced showing Lynch standing during the Mexican National Anthem and sitting during the US National Anthem at a game against the New England Patriots in Mexico City on Sunday, Trump called for his suspension.
More (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/trump-twitter-marshawn-lynch/index.html)
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Trump's is burgeoning on Dictatorship with this kind of Tweeting.
He has absolutely no business targeting any private entity with disciplinary or suggestive courses of action towards their employees and contractors he doesn't like.
Despite the fact that idiots in the NFL are displaying their hatred of the country on a weekly basis. Let the audience and fans dictate how their venue should react - NOT the President.
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I agree with Trump, but does he really need to wade into this?
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Maegan Vazquez and Ahiza Garcia
CNN
November 20, 2017
More (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/trump-twitter-marshawn-lynch/index.html)
Pres. Trump is right about the failure in leadership in the NFL. Standing and honoring our flag during the playing of our National Anthem doesn't seem like that big a deal, but the failure to do so is one more institution that is denigrated in the long list of things being done to demean and destroy pride in our country and it's foundation. It's been one thing after another for over 50 years and the way we are going most people will see no reason to keep the USA a constitutional republic founded on the principals that are rights come from GOD and the govt exists not to give us rights, but to defend our pre-existing rights. We've already surrendered on most social issues, now the symbols are being destroyed.
If everything is going down the tubes I'd rather go down the tubes with it rather than support a game that can't even tell it's employees they must stand and honor the flag that so many have died for.
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I just read an article wherein Charles Barkley and Shaw O'Neil stated the NFL kneeling was not working, since it offended so many Americans.
Trump is taking the American patriotic side. That is his constituency.
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I just read an article wherein Charles Barkley and Shaw O'Neil stated the NFL kneeling was not working, since it offended so many Americans.
Trump is taking the American patriotic side. That is his constituency.
So what? The optics of a POTUS targeting a specific person and calling for their suspension from a private entity are horribly stupid. And he's horribly stupid for not understanding that.
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We may all share the sentiment, but Trump just guaranteed nothing is going to happen to Lynch. Did he learn nothing? The NFL will protect him just to stick it in Trump's face. Now, I'll entertain the notion that Trump doesn't WANT Lynch punished....
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We may all share the sentiment, but Trump just guaranteed nothing is going to happen to Lynch. Did he learn nothing? The NFL will protect him just to stick it in Trump's face. Now, I'll entertain the notion that Trump doesn't WANT Lynch punished....
If that is your theory then it could also be extended to "lock her up", building the wall, scrapping Obamacare, etc etc etc.
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If that is your theory then it could also be extended to "lock her up", building the wall, scrapping Obamacare, etc etc etc.
Sure. No argument from me.
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We may all share the sentiment, but Trump just guaranteed nothing is going to happen to Lynch. Did he learn nothing? The NFL will protect him just to stick it in Trump's face. Now, I'll entertain the notion that Trump doesn't WANT Lynch punished....
That notion is not entertaining. It's just Trump saying what he thinks. I'm inured to it now.
It's a stupid battle for him to get into but not as stupid as the NFL for not waking up to the fact that their audience is mostly good ole boys and girls who like the Flag.
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I agree with Trump, but does he really need to wade into this?
No. But on the other hand Trump has been feeling neglected lately since the news has been so preoccupied with all these allegations of sexual misconduct. His ego is deflated -- he's not the center of attention. So he has to do or say something to stay relevant. Plus he has to keep his fans entertained or they will lose interest in him.
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So what? The optics of a POTUS targeting a specific person and calling for their suspension from a private entity are horribly stupid. And he's horribly stupid for not understanding that.
By now you might have admitted your conventional is wrong, since he got himself elected.
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Trump's is burgeoning on Dictatorship with this kind of Tweeting.
He has absolutely no business targeting any private entity with disciplinary or suggestive courses of action towards their employees and contractors he doesn't like.
Despite the fact that idiots in the NFL are displaying their hatred of the country on a weekly basis. Let the audience and fans dictate how their venue should react - NOT the President.
Dictatorship...you wax hyperbolic.
Why not , Trumps tweet? Keeps the America haters in the spotlight.... this is a good thing. That soe racist thug gets to share the limelight of such tweet.
That too is good.
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That notion is not entertaining. It's just Trump saying what he thinks. I'm inured to it now.
It's a stupid battle for him to get into but not as stupid as the NFL for not waking up to the fact that their audience is mostly good ole boys and girls who like the Flag.
Right! Inured is good 888high58888.. understanding is even better. The more Trump tweets the better I am starting to like him. Yes, at first he seemed immature...now though, after a year I see he is really really great at this game. He uses a punk to make the point that these are not real Americans with no real grievance.
What better optics than a Kneeler....standing for a foreign Nations anthem... and not out own on foreign soil. One tweet... the Nation and World see it and choose.
It is a time for choosing ...... choosing what side you really are on.
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Right! Inured is good 888high58888.. understanding is even better. The more Trump tweets the better I am starting to like him. Yes, at first he seemed immature...now though, after a year I see he is really really great at this game. He uses a punk to make the point that these are not real Americans with no real grievance.
What better optics than a Kneeler....standing for a foreign Nations anthem... and not out own on foreign soil. One tweet... the Nation and World see it and choose.
It is a time for choosing ...... choosing what side you really are on.
Scott Adams calls Trump's name-calling and tweets "linguistic kill shots" (and they work)
Like it or not, he's doing it and it works. "Low energy Jeb," is an oft cited example of an effective linguistic kill shot.
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By now you might have admitted your conventional is wrong, since he got himself elected.
Barely. Against a horrible opponent. I think if Hillary hadn't bought off the DNC and the nomination had gone to Bernie, the General results would have been different.
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Trump's is burgeoning on Dictatorship with this kind of Tweeting.
He has absolutely no business targeting any private entity with disciplinary or suggestive courses of action towards their employees and contractors he doesn't like.
Despite the fact that idiots in the NFL are displaying their hatred of the country on a weekly basis. Let the audience and fans dictate how their venue should react - NOT the President.
President Trump did not twit this, Donald Trump did. He used his personal account. While some of us might prefer he be a bit more cautious with his comments given his day job, he did not give up his right to express his personal opinion when he won the election.
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Barely. Against a horrible opponent. I think if Hillary hadn't bought off the DNC and the nomination had gone to Bernie, the General results would have been different.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Had we repeated a conventional Bush I, Dole, McCain, Romney type it is unlikely the GOP would have prevailed.
I suggest to all here gathered wishing for a successful GOP candidate in the future, to try to learn about things which have worked. (Having an open mind doesn't cost anything)
Bush I, Dole, McCain, Romney and the primary campaign of the 15 primary losers, did NOT work.
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Had we repeated a conventional Bush I, Dole, McCain, Romney type it is unlikely the GOP would have prevailed.
I suggest to all here gathered wishing for a successful GOP candidate in the future, to try to learn about things which have worked. (Having an open mind doesn't cost anything)
Bush I, Dole, McCain, Romney and the primary campaign of the 15 primary losers, did NOT work.
Okay, I'll ask this way; are his current supporters so fickle that if Trump cuts the stupid antics that he'll lose their vote in 2020?
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Okay, I'll ask this way; are his current supporters so fickle that if Trump cuts the stupid antics that he'll lose their vote in 2020?
Well, I was not one of Trumps S'porters.... but I consider the stupid antics to be one of his greatest strengths.
You criticize the non-traditional performance, and miss the masterpiece.
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Okay, I'll ask this way; are his current supporters so fickle that if Trump cuts the stupid antics that he'll lose their vote in 2020?
Trump's supporters are not fickle, his antics are not stupid, 2020 is too far away to worry about now.
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Trump's supporters are not fickle, his antics are not stupid, 2020 is too far away to worry about now.
I think the nonsense like what is talked about in this article is stupid. If the stupid stopped and the current attempted policies were continued I might be inclined to vote for him next time. Seems reasonable to me. Perhaps you are willing to be open minded about that. But if you think a candidate that couldn't even carry the popular vote and won by the skin of his teeth can win against whatever rock star the Dems put up next time, please carry on.
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Trump needs to butt the hell out (again). Only his core supporters think these crazy tweets are cute. If he's going to run again in 2020, it won't be against Hillary. He'll need to actually increase his support.
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We may all share the sentiment, but Trump just guaranteed nothing is going to happen to Lynch. Did he learn nothing? The NFL will protect him just to stick it in Trump's face. Now, I'll entertain the notion that Trump doesn't WANT Lynch punished....
No... to use your colloquialism, what he wants is for them to continue to 'stick it in his face'. Alinsky 101.
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No... to use your colloquialism, what he wants is for them to continue to 'stick it in his face'. Alinsky 101.
Good point. I need to find a meme that says "Alinsky works for US now!"
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Trump needs to butt the hell out (again). Only his core supporters think these crazy tweets are cute. If he's going to run again in 2020, it won't be against Hillary. He'll need to actually increase his support.
He has...with THIS Cruz man.
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He has...with THIS Cruz man.
So you voted for Cruz in the general in 2016?
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Right! Inured is good 888high58888.. understanding is even better. The more Trump tweets the better I am starting to like him. Yes, at first he seemed immature...now though, after a year I see he is really really great at this game. He uses a punk to make the point that these are not real Americans with no real grievance.
What better optics than a Kneeler....standing for a foreign Nations anthem... and not out own on foreign soil. One tweet... the Nation and World see it and choose.
It is a time for choosing ...... choosing what side you really are on.
I agree ... to a point. I have tried to be on Trump's side since he became President.
Most of the time it hasn't been hard to do.
There's a great deal of discussion about the tweets and for good reason.
I've gone back and forth on this. A lot of times, the tweets seem really stupid and almost childish, but it's the way Trump has chosen to get his messages out.
If you tweet everything that comes into your head including anger at a disrespectful football player, then some of your tweets will annoy people.
I don't care anymore.
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Good point. I need to find a meme that says "Alinsky works for US now!"
It is stupid not to use the tactics of the day. Ask the Redcoats.
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I agree ... to a point. I have tried to be on Trump's side since he became President.
Most of the time it hasn't been hard to do.
There's a great deal of discussion about the tweets and for good reason.
I've gone back and forth on this. A lot of times, the tweets seem really stupid and almost childish, but it's the way Trump has chosen to get his messages out.
If you tweet everything that comes into your head including anger at a disrespectful football player, then some of your tweets will annoy people.
I don't care anymore.
Fireside tweets.
The thing is, this punk football player is nothing. Trumps tweet is about a culture war. He uses this punk for a layup.
Truly, this Cruz man is more than ok with this. I am really starting to appreciate it.
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I think the nonsense like what is talked about in this article is stupid. If the stupid stopped and the current attempted policies were continued I might be inclined to vote for him next time. Seems reasonable to me. Perhaps you are willing to be open minded about that. But if you think a candidate that couldn't even carry the popular vote and won by the skin of his teeth can win against whatever rock star the Dems put up next time, please carry on.
I know he has no chance in setting the agenda, driving the media focus, or getting re-elected if he doesn't tweet. It drives me crazy at times, but it is nice to have a POTUS who does believe in American Exceptionalism, loves our troops, honors their sacrifice and expects others to do so as well.
Let the radical leftists manipulate the ignorant football players into protesting a non existing problem. All those who rally around them identify what they really think of this country. I was a lifelong football fanatic, but if the owners don't have the strength to tell their employees to stand and respect the flag then I won't buy their product.
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So you voted for Cruz in the general in 2016?
Did you vote for Hillary in the general?
Please, do not diminish yourself with such. And yes, I voted for Trump in the general...without any qualm. I voted my conscience, as did Ted.
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Trump needs to butt the hell out (again). Only his core supporters think these crazy tweets are cute. If he's going to run again in 2020, it won't be against Hillary. He'll need to actually increase his support.
Do you believe if he followed the conventional path of holding news conferences that what he is proposing, or commenting on, would be accurately reported?
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I know he has no chance in setting the agenda, driving the media focus, or getting re-elected if he doesn't tweet. It drives me crazy at times, but it is nice to have a POTUS who does believe in American Exceptionalism, loves our troops, honors their sacrifice and expects others to do so as well.
Let the radical leftists manipulate the ignorant football players into protesting a non existing problem. All those who rally around them identify what they really think of this country. I was a lifelong football fanatic, but if the owners don't have the strength to tell their employees to stand and respect the flag then I don't won't buy their product.
:amen:
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I know he has no chance in setting the agenda, driving the media focus, or getting re-elected if he doesn't tweet. It drives me crazy at times, but it is nice to have a POTUS who does believe in American Exceptionalism, loves our troops, honors their sacrifice and expects others to do so as well.
Let the radical leftists manipulate the ignorant football players into protesting a non existing problem. All those who rally around them identify what they really think of this country. I was a lifelong football fanatic, but if the owners don't have the strength to tell their employees to stand and respect the flag then I don't won't buy their product.
I'm not saying don't Tweet. I'm saying do it smartly, in a way that does not alienate people like me that believe a POTUS should be capable of behaving better.
Besides that, don't make make me laugh. Trump doesn't even know what the term "American exceptionalism" means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72wM6cqPS-c
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Do you believe if he followed the conventional path of holding news conferences that what he is proposing, or commenting on, would be accurately reported?
Maybe he could drink some forties on the whitehouse lawn after "tweeting" 'Bout some racist black professor getting arrested.
Like his predecessor.
Think I will take this version.
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Fireside tweets.
The thing is, this punk football player is nothing. Trumps tweet is about a culture war. He uses this punk for a layup.
Truly, this Cruz man is more than ok with this. I am really starting to appreciate it.
But the punk's mom defended him, proving that she, too, can tweet.
She tweeted "what football team do he own?"
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Did you vote for Hillary in the general?
Please, do not diminish yourself with such. And yes, I voted for Trump in the general...without any qualm. I voted my conscience, as did Ted.
Of course I did not vote for Hillary. Your reply to a comment that Trump needs to increase his support was that he did with you, that you were a Cruz man. It comes across that he increased his support after the 2016 election, which is clearly what @CatherineofAragon and I are both talking about, but that is not accurate.
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Maybe he could drink some forties on the whitehouse lawn after "tweeting" 'Bout some racist black professor getting arrested.
Like his predecessor.
Think I will take this version.
Oh, yeah. The beer summit. How great was that?
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Fireside tweets.
The thing is, this punk football player is nothing. Trumps tweet is about a culture war. He uses this punk for a layup.
Truly, this Cruz man is more than ok with this. I am really starting to appreciate it.
Love the 'fireside tweets' analogy. It kinda works. Roosevelt used the tools he had, Trump is doing the same.
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Did you vote for Hillary in the general?
@Fantom
What's the basis for that question? Criticism of Trump?
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Oh, yeah. The beer summit. How great was that?
Point being, is not that both armies use machine guns( a metaphor) makes them equally evil. But rather who/what is getting opposed.
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@Fantom
What's the basis for that question? Criticism of Trump?
@CatherineofAragon
Was not asked of you, the Lady has responded.... I will respond to her.
Have a good day.
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Love the 'fireside tweets' analogy. It kinda works. Roosevelt used the tools he had, Trump is doing the same.
:beer: Indeed.
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@CatherineofAragon
Was not asked of you, the Lady has responded.... I will respond to her.
Have a good day.
@Fantom
You're right, it wasn't. But you're on a public forum, and I inserted myself right in.
Never mind, the answer's clear.
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Trump's supporters are not fickle, his antics are not stupid, 2020 is too far away to worry about now.
@truth_seeker
2 out of 3 ain't bad (the bold I disagree with) But I find myself agreeing with you more and more out of respect for you and in the interest of mutual harmony across this Forum,
Thanks for sharing your Thoughts.
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I'm not saying don't Tweet. I'm saying do it smartly, in a way that does not alienate people like me that believe a POTUS should be capable of behaving better.
Besides that, don't make make me laugh. Trump doesn't even know what the term "American exceptionalism" means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72wM6cqPS-c
While I think you're right Pres. Trump couldn't properly define American Exceptionalism if you look at what he proudly supports he does believe in it.
It would be great if Pres. Trump could tweet in an exceptional manner, but that's not him. He's a Bull in a China shop. I'll cringe on occasion but I think his instincts are right more often than not and he fights! He doesn't care who it is that attacks him he fights back. The "professionals" in DC don't like it. The media don't like it. The leftists don't like it. However, more often than not Pres. Trump ends up being right.
The NFL is in serious trouble for a bunch of reasons. The greatest cause of their problems though is they don't know, or understand, their fans. They haven't educated their players who they are selling their product to and they haven't stepped up and demanded a level of acceptable behavior from their employees in the workplace. Any business that fails in these core areas is not going to remain over the long haul, no matter how successful it's been in the past.
Pres. Trump highlighting in his tweets the arrogant disrespect for the USA and those who have given their all for it is not only pointing out how wrong their behavior is. He is also reinforcing his position as a supporter of a traditional USA.
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Of course I did not vote for Hillary. Your reply to a comment that Trump needs to increase his support was that he did with you, that you were a Cruz man. It comes across that he increased his support after the 2016 election, which is clearly what @CatherineofAragon and I are both talking about, but that is not accurate.
Actually, Let me clear.... I am still a Cruz man.
As for your sophistry, Hobsons choice was the only choice..as to the vote in 2016. It has worked out well.....exceedingly so from my prospective.
SO, to the point that President Trump has gained , not the vote I had to cast... but actually admiration... then yes, That is a gain in support...No?
Now then, wilst you twiddle at the end of a useless fiddle, seeing how many sophistries will dance the head of a pin. Cruz was not on the ballot...Jus' who did youst vote for?
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@Fantom
You're right, it wasn't. But you're on a public forum, and I inserted myself right in.
Never mind, the answer's clear.
Too many here want to engage in a pissing match.
Sorry, life is just too short.
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Of course I did not vote for Hillary. Your reply to a comment that Trump needs to increase his support was that he did with you, that you were a Cruz man. It comes across that he increased his support after the 2016 election, which is clearly what @CatherineofAragon and I are both talking about, but that is not accurate.
Let me jump in on this. Pres. Trump has increased his support with me. I voted for Sen. Cruz in the primaries and did not vote for any candidate for POTUS in the general election. I did not believe candidate Trump would try and do what he campaigned on. I did not like the way he attacked other Pub candidates. I did not like some of the crude things in his past. However, if the election were today I would vote for him.
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@truth_seeker
2 out of 3 ain't bad (the bold I disagree with) But I find myself agreeing with you more and more out of respect for you and in the interest of mutual harmony across this Forum,
Thanks for sharing your Thoughts.
I'll settle for 2 of 3 which is very close to Reagan's philosophy. Stay tuned for the rest.
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Actually, Let me clear.... I am still a Cruz man.
As for your sophistry, Hobsons choice was the only choice..as to the vote in 2016. It has worked out well.....exceedingly so from my prospective.
SO, to the point that President Trump has gained , not the vote I had to cast... but actually admiration... then yes, That is a gain in support...No?
Now then, wilst you twiddle at the end of a useless fiddle, seeing how many sophistries will dance the head of a pin. Cruz was not on the ballot...Jus' who did youst vote for?
You are reaching pretty far with that explanation of how Trump has gained support, to the point of silliness, especially considering that we're talking about needing to increase support for a possible 2020 run.
I happen to like silliness, so please, continue.
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Let me jump in on this. Pres. Trump has increased his support with me. I voted for Sen. Cruz in the primaries and did not vote for any candidate for POTUS in the general election. I did not believe candidate Trump would try and do what he campaigned on. I did not like the way he attacked other Pub candidates. I did not like some of the crude things in his past. However, if the election were today I would vote for him.
Yes, an honest answer.
Fairly certain most here fall into the "honest" category. Least we would not be here. But we do like to argue ...no? :pondering: Sometimes to a fault. Myself included.
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You are reaching pretty far with that explanation of how Trump has gained support, to the point of silliness, especially considering that we're talking about needing to increase support for a possible 2020 run.
I happen to like silliness, so please, continue.
Ah, flattery, so becoming a woman. :smokin:
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Let me jump in on this. Pres. Trump has increased his support with me. I voted for Sen. Cruz in the primaries and did not vote for any candidate for POTUS in the general election. I did not believe candidate Trump would try and do what he campaigned on. I did not like the way he attacked other Pub candidates. I did not like some of the crude things in his past. However, if the election were today I would vote for him.
That's fine. But a lot of us aren't there. And I just see no detriment to being smarter about the Tweets and similar reaction to people who disagree with him.
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@truth_seeker
2 out of 3 ain't bad (the bold I disagree with) But I find myself agreeing with you more and more out of respect for you and in the interest of mutual harmony across this Forum,
Thanks for sharing your Thoughts.
**nononono*
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That's fine. But a lot of us aren't there. And I just see no detriment to being smarter about the Tweets and similar reaction to people who disagree with him.
That too is fine.
Something 'Bout "the Roar of it's many waters". Anyways, I have to get up at 4:00, going to check out. Just want to end with sayin'. I like you Roos, and Cath as well. Evan Fwank has some redeemin' attributes..... for the life of me , can't recall one though. :laugh:
Any rate good night all, see Ya' latter.
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More stupidity from Trump's gaping yawp of a mouth? Color me shocked - not.
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Night @Fantom But you're wrong about Frank there is no redeeming qualities there.
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I would have thought more comments would have been about the as!hat disrespecting this country. Folks must be deeply in love with Trump to be this fixated on him.
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More stupidity from Trump's gaping yawp of a mouth? Color me shocked - not.
Yep. I don't like Lynch or what he is doing. It is no different than people burning the flag. Only an idiot would do it and people gave their lives so they could. Lynch is an idiot that needs to be ignored.
Trump needs to be ignored too. This isn't a dictatorship.
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Frankly, I’m surprised there’s another thread here about NFL players not standing for the anthem. I seem to recall a TBR thread proclaiming that Trump had already “won” this battle. :whistle:
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Him and Goodell certainly scared the $hit out of David Silver, the NBA Commissioner, none of those thugs are kneeling.
It seems only the Canadians in the National Hockey League stand up during the National Anthem and that's because they know one of their own, Cruz, is a US Senator.
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Too many here want to engage in a pissing match.
Sorry, life is just too short.
@Fantom
Like you? Take a look at your own posts...accusing people of being Hillary supporters because they criticize Trump. That’s the type of thing you see at TOS.
The election was no Hobson’s choice. There were several options—-vote for the R or D candidate, vote third party, write in a name, or don’t vote at all. I voted third party myself, so why claim it was a binary choice when many people made other choices?
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The election was no Hobson’s choice. There were several options—-vote for the R or D candidate, vote third party, write in a name, or don’t vote at all. I voted third party myself, so why claim it was a binary choice when many people made other choices?
Which just meant that real voters had to wait while the indecisive and incapable of making a rational decision people pretended to participate in the election process.
All these people did was add "noise" to the process.
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I would have thought more comments would have been about the as!hat disrespecting this country. Folks must be deeply in love with Trump to be this fixated on him.
Did you expect a conservative forum to laud what asshat did? That would be odd. The article is about Trump's response to the asshattery, so that is what most of the comments are about. For once, we're mostly on topic and you're complaining about it.
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Which just meant that real voters had to wait while the indecisive and incapable of making a rational decision people pretended to participate in the election process.
All these people did was add "noise" to the process.
Yeah, that's pretty much a dick thing to say. Aside from that, there's no bleep way I'm getting into a conversation about whether or not a third party vote counted..... again for the umpteenth time.
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Him and Goodell certainly scared the $hit out of David Silver, the NBA Commissioner, none of those thugs are kneeling.
It seems only the Canadians in the National Hockey League stand up during the National Anthem and that's because they know one of their own, Cruz, is a US Senator.
Not sure how Silver was scared by either Trump or Goodell. After all, the NBA had a rule in place that players must stand many years before Trump was President and before Goodell was Commissioner.
http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2016/09/victor_oladipo_predicts_nba_pl.html
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Which just meant that real voters had to wait while the indecisive and incapable of making a rational decision people pretended to participate in the election process.
All these people did was add "noise" to the process.
It can be argued that Nader votes cost Gore the win.
It can also be also be argued that Buchanan votes seriously placed Bush II's win in jeopardy.
Lastly don't forget Perot in 1992.
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Yeah, that's pretty much a dick thing to say.
Not trying to stop that corrupt psychotic hate witch is the dick move. Thank God that we didn't have to live under that horror, no thanks to the childish people who think their posturing amounted to anything in the overall scheme of things!
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It can be argued that Nader votes cost Gore the win.
It can also be also be argued that Buchanan votes seriously placed Bush II's win in jeopardy.
Lastly don't forget Perot in 1992.
And who was the potential third party candidate around which everyone rallied and had a hope of changing the outcome?
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Not trying to stop that corrupt psychotic hate witch is the dick move. Thank God that we didn't have to live under that horror, no thanks to the childish people who think their posturing amounted to anything in the overall scheme of things!
I have the same opinion of the people who voted for Trump in the primaries, so we're even and we can move along.
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And who was the potential third party candidate around which everyone rallied and had a hope of changing the outcome?
OK ... I'll bite. Who?
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I have the same opinion of the people who voted for Trump in the primaries, so we're even and we can move along.
I voted for Cruz in the Primary. :)
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Did you expect a conservative forum to laud what asshat did? That would be odd. The article is about Trump's response to the asshattery, so that is what most of the comments are about. For once, we're mostly on topic and you're complaining about it.
@RoosGirl
I can see that by all the election discussion and penis envy. Behahahahahhahaa
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I'm not saying don't Tweet. I'm saying do it smartly, in a way that does not alienate people like me that believe a POTUS should be capable of behaving better.
Besides that, don't make make me laugh. Trump doesn't even know what the term "American exceptionalism" means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72wM6cqPS-c
Trump shouldn’t tweet this, Trump shouldn’t do that, Trump should speak only in a news conference, Trump should genuflect first, Trump should speak only when spoken to. Sheesh.
Never figured you for a pearl clutcher, yet here you are. Can I get you some smelling salts?
What Trump is doing and saying is working fine for him since the day he announced and he’s winning converts to his side with every tweet he makes, with every step he takes.
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I would have thought more comments would have been about the as!hat disrespecting this country. Folks must be deeply in love with Trump to be this fixated on him.
Yeah, they love him. They love him to death.
Me, I love potus, I love flotus. I’m a potus, flotus kinda guy. :patriot:
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Right! Inured is good 888high58888.. understanding is even better. The more Trump tweets the better I am starting to like him. Yes, at first he seemed immature...now though, after a year I see he is really really great at this game. He uses a punk to make the point that these are not real Americans with no real grievance.
What better optics than a Kneeler....standing for a foreign Nations anthem... and not out own on foreign soil. One tweet... the Nation and World see it and choose.
It is a time for choosing ...... choosing what side you really are on.
:patriot: :beer:
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I agree with Trump, but does he really need to wade into this?
The sitting down was dying down with only a few players before the last time he opened his pie hole. And we saw what happened the very next week. The fool does it again just as it was dying down one more time.
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The sitting down was dying down with only a few players before the last time he opened his pie hole. And we saw what happened the very next week. The fool does it again just as it was dying down one more time.
We are in a war for the survival of our nation. I am glad he's using that loser to make the point. It's not time to sit back quietly.
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Trump shouldn’t tweet this, Trump shouldn’t do that, Trump should speak only in a news conference, Trump should genuflect first, Trump should speak only when spoken to. Sheesh.
Never figured you for a pearl clutcher, yet here you are. Can I get you some smelling salts?
What Trump is doing and saying is working fine for him since the day he announced and he’s winning converts to his side with every tweet he makes, with every step he takes.
Do you have any proof of the bolded statement? I ask because according to several polls, Trump's popularity may be slipping.
I don't care that Trump is unconventional. But there is unconventional and there is getting into a snit because someone doesn't like you. A grownup doesn't have to be loved by everyone . He doesn't have to react to every negative comment, every unflattering event. Brush it aside, let it go. Doing so isn't weakness. On the contrary, it's strength and maturity. By just ignoring the loud mouthed father, Trump would have shown himself to be the better man. His silence would have made the father look petty and ignorant.
I was told that Trump would grow into the presidency, but I haven't seen much evidence of that. If anything, I think he's regressing. If he has any hope of accomplishing his goals for America as he promised during the campaign, he's going to need people on his side -- even people he doesn't like and who don't like him. If he alienates those who might be induced to work with him, he will lose any hope of fulfilling his promises. The more he drives a wedge between himself and those who might otherwise have been willing to work with him, the more I start to think he really has no intention of keeping his promises. Sure, he can blame them for his failures -- and his worshipful fans might believe him -- but the rest of us won't. And if he hopes to be re-elected in 2020, he's going to need the rest of us to do so.
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Lynch acts like an a$$hat because he wants attention. No one, including the president, should be giving him what he wants.
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@RoosGirl
I can see that by all the election discussion and penis envy. Behahahahahhahaa
I said mostly on topic. I had no idea we were talking about peen though. Don't know how I could have missed that.
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Trump shouldn’t tweet this, Trump shouldn’t do that, Trump should speak only in a news conference, Trump should genuflect first, Trump should speak only when spoken to. Sheesh.
Never figured you for a pearl clutcher, yet here you are. Can I get you some smelling salts?
What Trump is doing and saying is working fine for him since the day he announced and he’s winning converts to his side with every tweet he makes, with every step he takes.
I don't know who said all of those things, but it wasn't me. Yeah, it is so obvious that I am the pearl clutching type. Maybe, since we both know I'm not really that type, my opinion on this one thing has at least enough merit to consider it for a second or two before dismissing it because I don't agree with all things Trump.
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If he had a team in the NFL, he wouldn't say a damn thing. I think he is bitter cause the NFL told him to pound sand twice. Once when he destroyed the USFL and when he tried to buy the Buffalo Bills.
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At last night's Monday Night Football all the players stood, even Seahawk's Michael Bennett, who has it seems taken over for Kaepernick as the active protest poster child. And for the most part it seems to be the trend from team to team getting back to normal, with just a few exceptions. All it takes is one stuped tweet and it starts all over again.
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At last night's Monday Night Football all the players stood, even Seahawk's Michael Bennett, who has it seems taken over for Kaepernick as the active protest poster child. And for the most part it seems to be the trend from team to team getting back to normal, with just a few exceptions. All it takes is one stuped tweet and it starts all over again.
And so sad, just short of the field goal!
Lynch is one of those guys Trump should just let it go.
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At last night's Monday Night Football all the players stood, even Seahawk's Michael Bennett, who has it seems taken over for Kaepernick as the active protest poster child. And for the most part it seems to be the trend from team to team getting back to normal, with just a few exceptions. All it takes is one stuped tweet and it starts all over again.
Yeah, you would almost think Trump was pulling this shit on purpose. :whistle:
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Yeah, you would almost think Trump was pulling this shit on purpose.
:smokin:
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If he had a team in the NFL, he wouldn't say a damn thing. I think he is bitter cause the NFL told him to pound sand twice. Once when he destroyed the USFL and when he tried to buy the Buffalo Bills.
Silly me...I thought it was all the fault of the judge that ruled in his favor when he sued the NFL over the demise of the USFL. He was awarded treble damages $1 X 3= $3.
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Yeah, you would almost think Trump was pulling this shit on purpose. :whistle:
Has to stay busy until tax reform hits his desk.
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And so sad, just short of the field goal!
Lynch is one of those guys Trump should just let it go.
At least he's moved on to basketball now.
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Yeah, you would almost think Trump was pulling this shit on purpose. :whistle:
He is just upset at the NFL..