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General Category => World News => Topic started by: rangerrebew on March 08, 2014, 08:59:57 pm
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Flight MH370 lost: Malaysian flight had 2 passengers using stolen passports
Roz ZurkoHartford Top News Examiner
Malaysia Flight disappearance is still a mystery today, no wreckage has been found, but two oil slicks off shore of Vietnam have been spotted. A lack of debris field on water is odd occurrance after an ocean crash.
March 8, 2014
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is lost and other than two oil slicks in the ocean off the shores of Vietnam, there’s not a sign of wreckage anywhere, which is an odd occurrence. The missing flight is a mystery as it disappeared seemingly into thin air with 239 passengers on board. News that two of the passengers traveling with stolen passports have widen this mystery for authorities, reports the Mirror UK on March 8.
The families waiting word about their loved ones and they are bracing for the worse. Some of the family members are getting angry, according to NBC News on March 8, 2014. When an Australian man and an Italian man were announced as being among the missing flight passengers, both of the men were found at safe and not aboard that flight.
One of the reported passengers was at home in Australia and the other was visiting Thailand. Their passports, the ones allegedly used to board the Malaysia flight, were stolen two years ago when each was in Thailand on separate occasions.
The mystery deepens as no debris field has been spotted from the air, which would usually be the case when a plane goes down in water. Could the plane still be intact and resting on the ocean floor? Why is this such a hard crash site to find?
Desperate family members who had been waiting at the Beijing Airport for any news of their loved ones were taken to a hotel from the airport. The airline put them in a room together to wait for any information as soon as it was available. As of Saturday morning, 18 hours after the mysterious disappearance of the plane, family members know nothing more than they did when they were first told the plane disappeared.
Early Saturday morning tempers were rising and some of the family members stormed out of the hotel room where they were told to wait. One man said:
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“They’re just shut us in this room and told us to wait,” one man told Reuters. “We want someone to show their face. They haven’t even given us the passenger list.””
As another passenger made their way past the crowd of reporters he said: “They’re treating us worse than dogs.” There is no news to give the relatives because the search parties from several nations, including the U.S., have found nothing that even resembles wreckage of the plane.
The Malaysia flight is a deepening mystery today as weather conditions were fine, with no storms in the area when the plane was last seen on the radar screen. A large field of wreckage should be visible from the air, but there is nothing. The two oil slicks about six miles long are conducive with a downed plane, but the debris field you’d expect to find is absent.
Malaysia Airline said that there was no warning coming from the plane at all, it just vanished. This leaves them to believe whatever happened on board flight 370, happened extremely quickly.
http://www.examiner.com/article/flight-mh370-lost-malaysian-flight-had-2-passengers-using-stolen-passports
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two stolen passports used, both stolen in Thailand, and a plane that disappeared altogether on radar? Terrorist bomb. Perhaps no wreckage has yet been found because the bomb was powerful enough to shatter the aircraft high up in the air and disperse the wreckage over a very wide area?
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Before I jump too quickly on the 'this is proof of something', I wonder how many stolen passports are used in this part of SE Asia by people who may not otherwise be able to get them? According to ABC, 1.1 Million Passports have been lost or stolen in the past few years. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131622&page=1 Someone is using a lot of these.
This could be simply a coincidence, like finding a stolen driver's license on an illegal in the SW at a car accident.
Or it could be something...
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Before I jump too quickly on the 'this is proof of something', I wonder how many stolen passports are used in this part of SE Asia by people who may not otherwise be able to get them? According to ABC, 1.1 Million Passports have been lost or stolen in the past few years. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131622&page=1 Someone is using a lot of these.
This could be simply a coincidence, like finding a stolen driver's license on an illegal in the SW at a car accident.
Or it could be something...
it certainly could be just a coincidence. 'course, speculating on mere coincidence isn't nearly as much fun!
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Again, these are some of the most poorly trained pilots in the world who have more time flying the autopilot than the airplane.
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Again, these are some of the most poorly trained pilots in the world who have more time flying the autopilot than the airplane.
fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?
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fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?
That is the $64,000 question. Had it dove from 35,000 feet to the sea the radar would have tracked the plunge, it didn't - all we know is there was a 650 foot drop and then nothing afterward... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it usually is a duck. And the oil slicks were reported as quite large. The expert former NTSB guy on CNN said once they get ships on the scene they will know quickly if the slicks are aviation fuel because fo the smell of the oil.
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fair enough, but why did it drop off the radar so quickly?
Who knows? When seconds count in a cockpit emergency, these guys are only minutes behind the aircraft........
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The two oil slicks are reported as much as ten miles long
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Who knows? When seconds count in a cockpit emergency, these guys are only minutes behind the aircraft........
ok, but pilot incompetence couldn't remove the plane's signature from radar
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ok, but pilot incompetence couldn't remove the plane's signature from radar
Exactly, Capatin Nash on Fox right now discussing this, said there is a constant signal being sent between the aircraft and home - he said whatever happened was sudden and catostrophic.
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They also just pointed out one reason passports go missing so often over there is they are used for human smuggling and they might have been smuggling two people into China that China would not otherwise allow into the country.
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Breaking, Freescale Semiconductor, a company based in Texas, confirms 20 of its employees -- 12 from Malaysia and 8 from China -- were passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines flight. No link yet.
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Exactly, Capatin Nash on Fox right now discussing this, said there is a constant signal being sent between the aircraft and home - he said whatever happened was sudden and catostrophic.
Yep. The IFF beacon. Self powered if something happens to onboard power and can not be switched off by any action taken in the cockpit in a commercial aircraft (military aircraft can switch it off - no sense in providing targeting information for free!).
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Yep. The IFF beacon. Self powered if something happens to onboard power and can not be switched off by any action taken in the cockpit in a commercial aircraft (military aircraft can switch it off - no sense in providing targeting information for free!).
Civilian aircraft do not carry IFF other than some old Soviet models which were built for rapid conversion to wartime use.
What they are taking about is a data link that modern aircraft use to send information (how much and what kind varies by airline) back to the airline's maintenance operations so not only can the airline's performance be measured, but if there is an inflight problem, maintenance can try to help the pilots solve it.
The data link suddenly cut out on MH370 and until that point, was showing no problems. This is different than Air France 447 which was transmitting information showing a lot of issues before contact was lost.