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Title: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: TomSea on December 08, 2018, 04:52:19 am
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Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

WEST POINT, Va. — A Virginia high school teacher who refused to use a transgender student's new pronouns has been fired.

News outlets report that the West Point School Board voted unanimously Thursday to dismiss Peter Vlaming after a four-hour hearing that drew an overflow crowd. The school system said in a statement that Vlaming was fired for insubordination.

Over the summer, the ninth-grade student's family informed the school system of the student's gender transition to male. The student wasn't involved in Thursday's hearing.

Continued at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/teacher-fired-for-refusing-to-use-trans-students-pronouns/ar-BBQCYqD?OCID=ansmsnnews11 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/teacher-fired-for-refusing-to-use-trans-students-pronouns/ar-BBQCYqD?OCID=ansmsnnews11)

I hope some legal organization might take up his plight though, in this world, they may not win. He didn't even say it to this student but in speaking with others.
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: DB on December 08, 2018, 06:21:34 am
Might as well demand the teacher say blue is red. Same difference. A basic denial of reality.
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: Fishrrman on December 09, 2018, 01:02:03 am
Hopefully this teacher will be able to find work in a private school somewhere that doesn't put up with politcally-correct B.S. ...
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: rangerrebew on October 03, 2019, 12:36:58 pm
Teacher Sues After Firing for Not Using Male Pronouns for Female Student Who Identifies as Male
 

A high school French teacher in Virginia is suing the school board after they fired him for refusing to refer to a female student who identifies as a male as “he.”

Peter Vlaming was placed on administrative leave last October and then fired from West Point High School in Williamsburg, Va., in December because he refused to use male pronouns for the transgender student.

According to the Alliance Defending Freedom, which is representing Vlaming, who filed a lawsuit in the case, the teacher used the student’s preferred male name, but avoided using male pronouns altogether.
 
Source URL: https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/melanie-arter/teacher-sues-after-firing-not-using-male-pronouns-female-student-who-identifies (https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/melanie-arter/teacher-sues-after-firing-not-using-male-pronouns-female-student-who-identifies)
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 20, 2020, 11:25:23 pm
Teacher sues school district after being fired for refusing to use transgender pronouns

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/education/teacher-takes-school-district-court-after-being-fired-refusing-use (https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/education/teacher-takes-school-district-court-after-being-fired-refusing-use)

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Peter Vlaming was a history and French professor at West Point High School in West Point, Virginia, in 2018 when a female student of his announced a transition to a male identity and requested that her instructors refer to her using male pronouns.

Vlaming refused to do so, though he claims he initially struck an amicable compromise with the student in question. ...

The school finally told him that if he used female pronouns to refer to the student – or even if the district suspected he was using her name to avoid referring to her pronouns altogether – he would be terminated.
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: mountaineer on December 16, 2023, 09:43:05 pm
2023 UPDATE

Free Speech Win: VA Supreme Court Revives Lawsuit by Teacher Fired for Not Using Trans Student’s Pronouns
Amy Furr
15 Dec 2023
Breitbart (https://www.breitbart.com/education/2023/12/15/virginia-supreme-court-revives-lawsuit-teacher-fired-not-using-transgender-students-pronouns/)

Virginia’s Supreme Court has revived a lawsuit filed by a high school teacher who was fired for refusing to use a transgender student’s preferred pronouns.

The court’s action happened on Thursday, according to the Washington Post.

The newspaper continued:    In a split 143-page decision, the justices overturned a lower court decision dismissing Peter Vlaming’s case, which has drawn national attention because it pitted the hotly contested issues of transgender rights and religious freedom against each other. In its 4-3 decision, the Supreme Court remanded the case to a lower court for trial.

    The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), the conservative Christian group that is representing Vlaming, called the ruling a “sweeping victory” for free speech and religious rights, and Virginia Attorney General Jason S. Miyares (R) said “it dramatically expands the protection of religious liberty.” ...
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: mountaineer on December 16, 2023, 09:46:33 pm
Meanwhile, in Ireland:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBewFdvbYAAxXr6?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: LMAO on December 18, 2023, 01:30:04 am
Meanwhile, in Ireland:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBewFdvbYAAxXr6?format=jpg&name=small)

This what happens when you don’t have a first amendment.

When you tell stories like this to apolitical people in this country, their first reaction that I’ve seen is they go to the first amendment issue.

But the only country that has a guaranteed right to free speech is ours. Everywhere else, you have the right to free speech as long as what you’re saying is approved by the state
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: GtHawk on December 18, 2023, 05:08:30 am
This what happens when you don’t have a first amendment.

When you tell stories like this to apolitical people in this country, their first reaction that I’ve seen is they go to the first amendment issue.

But the only country that has a guaranteed right to free speech is ours. Everywhere else, you have the right to free speech as long as what you’re saying is approved by the state
I see tourist ads for Ireland about how wonderful it is, then I see sh, er stuff like this I say to myself no no no, you will get in so much trouble the second you open your mouth  :silly: Nope I haven't seen squat of America I have no desire to go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: Hoodat on December 18, 2023, 06:30:29 am
2023 UPDATE

Free Speech Win: VA Supreme Court Revives Lawsuit by Teacher Fired for Not Using Trans Student’s Pronouns

Thank you for the update, @mountaineer
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: Kamaji on January 02, 2024, 01:12:09 am
This what happens when you don’t have a first amendment.

When you tell stories like this to apolitical people in this country, their first reaction that I’ve seen is they go to the first amendment issue.

But the only country that has a guaranteed right to free speech is ours. Everywhere else, you have the right to free speech as long as what you’re saying is approved by the state

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 02, 2024, 01:13:42 pm
Meanwhile, in Ireland:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBewFdvbYAAxXr6?format=jpg&name=small)
"They"? Was there more than one?
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 02, 2024, 01:27:20 pm
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... still preferrable to punishment from nuns for using improper grammar.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/68a730798ab92bc8534ee582da6e59f1/tumblr_mnbzr17o9C1qedb29o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns
Post by: Hoodat on January 03, 2024, 02:05:58 am
Here is the majority opinion from Justice D. Arthur Kelsey, in case anyone is interested:

VLAMING v. WEST POINT SCHOOL BOARD (2023)

Supreme Court of Virginia.


Peter VLAMING v. WEST POINT SCHOOL BOARD, et al.

Record No. 211061
Decided: December 14, 2023
PRESENT: All the Justices  .  .  . (https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/va-supreme-court/115617013.html)