The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Elderberry on February 15, 2019, 02:44:54 pm
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The New Yorker By Jeffrey Toobin February 13, 2019
No one tells a Supreme Court Justice when to retire. But there are currently two retirement dramas under way at the Court—one semi-public and the other semi-private—and they both have the potential to reshape the meaning of the Constitution for decades.
The public story is that of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Court’s senior liberal. Late last year, she fell and broke three ribs and, when she was being treated, doctors discovered that she had lung cancer, her third bout with cancer. She underwent surgery, apparently successfully, and the Court released word that she would need no further treatment. But, in January, she missed oral arguments for the first time in twenty-five years on the Court, and there is no guarantee that she will be there when the Justices next hear cases, on February 19th. Still, the retirement drama regarding Ginsburg is straightforward. She will hang on for as long as she can, in the hopes that a Democratic President will appoint her successor after the 2020 election.
The more complex drama involves Clarence Thomas, who is seventy years old and the longest-tenured Associate Justice on the Court. With fifty-three Republicans now in the Senate (and no filibusters allowed on Supreme Court nominations), President Trump would have a free hand in choosing a dream candidate for his conservative base if Thomas were to retire this year. The summer of 2019 would seem an ideal time to add a third younger conservative to the Court (along with Neil Gorsuch, who is fifty-one, and Brett Kavanaugh, who is fifty-four). It’s true that Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, would likely violate his Merrick Garland rule and try to push through a nominee in 2020, an election year, but 2019 would be much easier to navigate. So, many conservatives are asking, why shouldn’t Thomas leave now?
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Thomas is as rock-solid as we have ever had on the Court.
Any replacement will be a step away from Constitutional conservatism,
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The old hag is trying to hold on until Trump hits lame duck status so he can't make a replacement. She could die and the democrats might well conceal her death to keep from another Trump nomination. :judge:
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Thomas is as rock-solid as we have ever had on the Court.
Any replacement will be a step away from Constitutional conservatism,
I agree. Thomas has been low-key but he has been as solid a conservative as there is on the court. I would hate to see him go, but I wouldn't really blame him.
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The old hag is trying to hold on until Trump hits lame duck status so he can't make a replacement. She could die and the democrats might well conceal her death to keep from another Trump nomination. :judge:
what is lame duck status?
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How can she be ready to retire when she can't even remember what she is supposed to be doing?
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what is lame duck status?
IMO within a year of the next political election. The rats will cite Merrick Garland and claim Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate another justice because, after all, he may be defeated in the upcoming election.
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IMO within a year of the next political election. The rats will cite Merrick Garland and claim Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate another justice because, after all, he may be defeated in the upcoming election.
@skeeter
They,like anyone else can claim anything. That doesn't mean they can pull it off.
What we are witnessing right at this moment is the beginning of the inevitable internal battle in the Dim Party between the traditional Dim Left party of "Privileged White Leaders Who Know What is Best for their DARK LITTLE BROTHERS AND SISTERS",and the actual illiterate communist scum they have been recruiting as foot soldiers to come to America and fight their Civil War for them.
It ain't going to get any more peaceful as that power struggle goes along,either,as Barrio Communists go after the traditional American Dim communists that winter on the French Riviera and own mansions in Switzerland,and demand their cut and their share of the power.
Trust Fund money versus Welfare Money. It ain't going to be pretty.
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@skeeter
They,like anyone else can claim anything. That doesn't mean they can pull it off.
What we are witnessing right at this moment is the beginning of the inevitable internal battle in the Dim Party between the traditional Dim Left party of "Privileged White Leaders Who Know What is Best for their DARK LITTLE BROTHERS AND SISTERS",and the actual illiterate communist scum they have been recruiting as foot soldiers to come to America and fight their Civil War for them.
It ain't going to get any more peaceful as that power struggle goes along,either,as Barrio Communists go after the traditional American Dim communists that winter on the French Riviera and own mansions in Switzerland,and demand their cut and their share of the power.
Trust Fund money versus Welfare Money. It ain't going to be pretty.
Wouldn't change one single word. Exactly my perception of the situation.
I always said that the so called 'minorities' would eventually shuck off the Old White People yolk, and their Black house-slaves, which has been placed on them for decades by Democrats. I always said that this infusion of illegals would lead to an overthrow and a revolution in the Democrat Party.
We see that now. La revolucion is here today. You wanted it. You got it.
Jesse Jackson say whaaat? What he say? He can kiss my ass! And all them old white crackers are welcome to join in. Schumer Jew, I wants to see you in da hood bro. Just to say, Hello.
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IMO within a year of the next political election. The rats will cite Merrick Garland and claim Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate another justice because, after all, he may be defeated in the upcoming election.
So, it's not a real thing but just something the democrats will do? I would ignore it if I were Trump and the Republicans.
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So, it's not a real thing but just something the democrats will do? I would ignore it if I were Trump and the Republicans.
The rats are always ginning up some bullsh*t or other argument to energize their base and get their way. Of course the media will pretend as if they have a serious point, and of course the odds are the GOP will run for the tall grass.
I'm sure Trump will ignore it, the question is will his party back him up.
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The rats are always ginning up some bullsh*t or other argument to energize their base and get their way. Of course the media will pretend as if they have a serious point, and of course the odds are the GOP will run for the tall grass.
I'm sure Trump will ignore it, the question is will his party back him up.
I think they will. I see them finally accepting that Trump is President. I could be wrong.
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IMO within a year of the next political election. The rats will cite Merrick Garland and claim Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate another justice because, after all, he may be defeated in the upcoming election.
Agree @skeeter RBG just needs to be around until Jan 1, 2020
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I promise you guys. The next generation of voters is not going to vote for these 100 year old antiques, who would belong in a museum somewhere. We is us. We is we! And all them old White Crackers can take the next train out of here.
OLD WHITE PEOPLES, HERE WE COME. YOU CALLED FOR US. NOW YOU GOT US!
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IMO within a year of the next political election. The rats will cite Merrick Garland and claim Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate another justice because, after all, he may be defeated in the upcoming election.
That only goes for second term. Trump won't be a lame duck until 2024.
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That only goes for second term. Trump won't be a lame duck until 2024.
I like the positive thinking @Hoodat But I still don't see what a President should be deprived of a full third of his term in regarding to judicial appointments whether he loses or not.
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She’s already hit the bucket. She’s just being propped up like the Weekend at Bernie’s by Dems to keep a Trump nomination at bay. Has anyone offered real proof she’s still alive? Sound far fetched? Well...Who woulda thunk it that the FBI would try a coup?
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I promise you guys. The next generation of voters is not going to vote for these 100 year old antiques, who would belong in a museum somewhere. We is us. We is we! And all them old White Crackers can take the next train out of here.
OLD WHITE PEOPLES, HERE WE COME. YOU CALLED FOR US. NOW YOU GOT US!
@240B
You misspelled "Peep-pulls".
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She’s already hit the bucket. She’s just being propped up like the Weekend at Bernie’s by Dems to keep a Trump nomination at bay. Has anyone offered real proof she’s still alive? Sound far fetched? Well...Who woulda thunk it that the FBI would try a coup?
@RetBobbyMI
BINGO!
Damn shame we don't have any REAL "investigative reporters" to blow the cover off this plot to rig a judicial appointment. IIRC,that would be considered to be a federal felony.
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@RetBobbyMI
BINGO!
Damn shame we don't have any REAL "investigative reporters" to blow the cover off this plot to rig a judicial appointment. IIRC,that would be considered to be a federal felony.
When has the Dems, deep state and leftists ever worried about a felony? They have cover.
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She’s already hit the bucket. She’s just being propped up like the Weekend at Bernie’s by Dems to keep a Trump nomination at bay. Has anyone offered real proof she’s still alive? Sound far fetched? Well...Who woulda thunk it that the FBI would try a coup?
I would believe any shenanigans attempted by the dems and, sadly now, by the current FBI.
But didn't she drag her ancient carcass out today?
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I would suspect that if Thomas is seriously considering retirement he would do it now rather than later. The guy doesn't seem like the type to hang on for his personal sense of self importance and would likely retire when he was assured that the POTUS would replace him with a judge in his mold..after all he is a Conservative... :shrug:
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I would suspect that if Thomas is seriously considering retirement he would do it now rather than later. The guy doesn't seem like the type to hang on for his personal sense of self importance and would likely retire when he was assured that the POTUS would replace him with a judge in his mold..after all he is a Conservative... :shrug:
I fully expect that Justice Thomas will announce his plans to retire at the end of the current term.
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But didn't she drag her ancient carcass out today?
NO she did not. It is just more fake news from the MSM. They are reporting explicitly that, 'Ginsburg Returned to Work Today.' But that is simply not true. The only thing that happened is that she was released from the hospital to go home. The MSM is touting her return home as Ginsburg Goes Back to Work. Just another lie from the media.
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I would suspect that if Thomas is seriously considering retirement he would do it now rather than later. The guy doesn't seem like the type to hang on for his personal sense of self importance and would likely retire when he was assured that the POTUS would replace him with a judge in his mold..after all he is a Conservative... :shrug:
I think that's true and I wouldn't blame him, but hate to lose him.
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NO she did not. It is just more fake news from the MSM. They are reporting explicitly that, 'Ginsburg Returned to Work Today.' But that is simply not true. The only thing that happened is that she was released from the hospital to go home. The MSM is touting her return home as Ginsburg Goes Back to Work. Just another lie from the media.
Good to know @240B I shoulda figured that for fake news.
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@Elderberry
Before she knew she had the cancer, she said she was retiring this year, 2019. It was no secret, she said it. Evidently, not many people knew that and after the cancer, not knowing she was retiring this year, they think she has to retire because she had the cancer.
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Good to know @240B I shoulda figured that for fake news.
@Emjay
I guess that does mean that she must still be "alive", at least in some limited way. I doubt the hospital would release her to go home if she had passed. But today, with all the deceit, lies, and subterfuge, coming from the FBI, the media, and everyone, it really is impossible to know what is true and what is not true these days. Almost everything we are told is a lie.
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Well, here is something that is not a lie. The cancer she had is very deadly. I anticipate she has it pop up somewhere else, and she has 9 -12 months. My father dealt with the same cancer.