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imho: This is a 'moderate to seriously significant' appearing video re WW3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7RdNIMVOk
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25 OCT 2016
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Video transcript: http://pastebin.com/raw/CeTdA518
For the last two months, we have been consistently reporting on a possible global conflict, World War 3 between the United States and its allies in the West, and Russia and its allies in the East.
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The dispute on the South China Sea has severely damaged the United States relations with the Peoples Republic of China. After the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled that China's nine-dash-line claim in the South China Sea, and its land reclamation activities on islets are invalid and unlawful, the United States has been preparing to sail in the area under a so-called Freedom of Navigation principle.
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This has angered the Chinese. In August, the Chinese Defense Minister, Chang Wanquan told his country's citizens to prepare for, what he described as the peoples war at sea. Mr Wanquan was referring directly to the United States planned provocation under the pretext of Freedom of Navigation. China has since vowed to take all necessary measures available to protect its sovereignty over the South China Sea, revealing that it had the right to set up an air defense zone on the sea.
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China has also since been positioning and testing its nuclear weapons, and planning military drills on its waters with Russia. Even the United States has confirmed that China has tested an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, which is capable of striking everywhere in the world within half an hour.
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Due to how the situation has become, some top officials at the United States defense headquarters have finally spoken. These Pentagon officials have admitted that World War 3 is imminent, and that its going to be deadly and fast. The military generals were speaking on a future-of-the-army panel in Washington.
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Sounds plenty serious, to me.
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I wonder what the Pope knew last CHRISTmas when he declared that THAT CHRISTmas would be the last one the world saw . . . evidently in terms of peace, relative stability etc.
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The follow-on speaker notes Shrillery's evident eagerness to be a war-monger against Russia over Syria. Certainly John SKerry isn't helping calm things, imho.
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imho, folks not prepared with significant food, water etc. stores . . . are either not paying attention, MSM lobotomized . . . or otherwise cluelessly playing the role of the Eloi shuffling off to the maws and caverns of the Morlachs like good sheeple, lemmings, Eloi
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I think the video is worth the time. But it may not be for the faint of heart or those with anxiety disorders.
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rough rating, impression re seriousness:
6.5-8.5, imho
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Not buying.
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Not buying.
I hope you're right.
Your reasons for your stance?
What is your explanation for the significant escalation in number and level of warning expert's status the last 6-12 months?
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I hope you're right.
Your reasons for your stance?
What is your explanation for the significant escalation in number and level of warning expert's status the last 6-12 months?
China isn't ready to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg. Economically they lose out and for what a few islands. It's possible, but not likely by an stretch.
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I hope you're right.
Your reasons for your stance?
What is your explanation for the significant escalation in number and level of warning expert's status the last 6-12 months?
A US presidential election in progress. Neither Russia or China is insane enough to destroy the world, particularly when neither are facing an actual attacking enemy. But, both are facing serious economic problems and creating distractions to get their people to fear the outside world instead of the source of their problems within is the typical play of the dictator.
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China isn't ready to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg. Economically they lose out and for what a few islands. It's possible, but not likely by an stretch.
My perspective on that is colored by my 2 years in China (where I had a number of conversations about such issues with well connected military and other high level Party members) and 14 years in Taipei.
Yes, the Chinese worship money to a large degree.
However, they worship pride . . . and particularly pride in their culture . . . even more.
They really do consider it THEIR TURN and their RIGHT to rule the world this century, if not this millennium.
They really do NOT consider it unreasonable to lose 800 million of their own citizens to arise on top of the smoldering heap. Seriously.
But the more critical issue may well be
have the globalist puppet masters of all concerned decided to light off WW3 within the next 1-6 months as many seem to be indicating that they have?
THEY want
1. Depopulation in a big way;
2. The reduction of the USA to ashes in order to enable overt establishment of the one world global government of cowed, shattered, scared, diseased slaves and serfs quicker and easier.
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A US presidential election in progress. Neither Russia or China is insane enough to destroy the world, particularly when neither are facing an actual attacking enemy. But, both are facing serious economic problems and creating distractions to get their people to fear the outside world instead of the source of their problems within is the typical play of the dictator.
SOUNDS reasonable.
I'm not sure those factoids carry the weight you assign to them, however.
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China has also since been positioning and testing its nuclear weapons, and planning military drills on its waters with Russia. Even the United States has confirmed that China has tested an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, which is capable of striking everywhere in the world within half an hour.
I haven't forgotten who enabled the Chinese to make a quantum leap in their ICBM guidance system capability likely in exchange for campaign contributions.
They would've probably gotten there by now anyway but still I won't forget.
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Interesting... I've read a lot of comments from various places online, from folks who have a feeling of dread that "something" big (and bad) is coming. A lot of them can't articulate it any further than that, and some of them point to the economic, political, or other issues plaguing the world, tending to focus on one area over others. Some are moved to prepare for it, some aren't, some aren't sure what to do. But it seems like a lot of people have that feeling.
This may be what's coming, or it may be something else. That's the problem with forecasting the future, it's really difficult to get it right. :shrug:
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I haven't forgotten who enabled the Chinese to make a quantum leap in their ICBM guidance system capability likely in exchange for campaign contributions.
They would've probably gotten there by now anyway but still I won't forget.
Absolutely Indeed.
And Shrillery would likely be happy to continue the dance of treason with Beijing that her pretend hubby participated in.
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Interesting... I've read a lot of comments from various places online, from folks who have a feeling of dread that "something" big (and bad) is coming. A lot of them can't articulate it any further than that, and some of them point to the economic, political, or other issues plaguing the world, tending to focus on one area over others. Some are moved to prepare for it, some aren't, some aren't sure what to do. But it seems like a lot of people have that feeling.
This may be what's coming, or it may be something else. That's the problem with forecasting the future, it's really difficult to get it right. :shrug:
Well put.
Thanks.
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China isn't ready to shoot the goose that lays the golden egg. Economically they lose out and for what a few islands. It's possible, but not likely by an stretch.
China has been busy over the last few years spending its yankee bucks on natural resources wherever it can buy rights to them. The South China sea has more than just resources, it has shipping lanes, too. See this article for further explanation. They want a lot more than just a new place to soak up some rays and drink umbrella drinks. http://www.businessinsider.com/tensions-in-the-south-china-sea-explained-in-18-maps-2015-1/#5natural-resources-in-the-south-china-sea-5 (http://www.businessinsider.com/tensions-in-the-south-china-sea-explained-in-18-maps-2015-1/#5natural-resources-in-the-south-china-sea-5)
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Not buying.
It's already starting if you haven't been paying attention.
We got the Japs, Chinamen and the US having a pissing match over islands off Japan that keeps escalating. We are at serious odds with the Soviets in multiple areas around the globe. The Soviets just ran a full nuke drill for the entire country. The Soviets and Chinamen are ramping up their nuclear capabilities. We just had an effen MAJOR cyber attack this weekend that is a very bad harbinger of things to come for us. Europe, South America and the Middle East have become totally destabilized over the last couple years. Russia is teetering on the edge of ruin because of the depressed oil prices and China is right behind them because the world economy can't even afford their cheap shit anymore. Hell, Hanjin just folded because there wasn't enough cheap Chinese garbage to ship globally.....HANJIN!
Just because the bubble headed broads at FOX News haven't reported any of this doesn't mean it isn't happening.
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Interesting... I've read a lot of comments from various places online, from folks who have a feeling of dread that "something" big (and bad) is coming. A lot of them can't articulate it any further than that, and some of them point to the economic, political, or other issues plaguing the world, tending to focus on one area over others. Some are moved to prepare for it, some aren't, some aren't sure what to do. But it seems like a lot of people have that feeling.
This may be what's coming, or it may be something else. That's the problem with forecasting the future, it's really difficult to get it right. :shrug:
I had the sense that something was unfathomably WRONG, on a cosmic scale, just a month or two before Obama was elected. I'm not normally given to such 'feelings', I'm a scientist and a skeptic about such. I just can't describe it any other way. I paid off my bills and debts, put money and trade goods away, stocked the larder, and always keep my gas tanks in the six vehicles I have on the pavement full. There are a few extra gallons of fuel around. It wasn't that I haven't been a little bit of a prepper all along, working in remote areas and relying on my own resources on occasion to survive, but this was different. Having a house fire in the middle of all that was a mite disruptive, and thankfully we've mostly recovered from that.
The one thing about forecasting the future, is you can't.
You can go by past trends with some things, which had me pack away enough resources to survive without income while we had an oil boom (knowing a 'bust' follows), but even that has its limits. Some of those resources have been consumed in the recovery from the fire, some are being used to get by, and others persist. That fire hammered home that no matter what you do, you have to have backup plans for your backup plans, and even at the very good money I was making at the time, there is a definite limit to what you can prepare for, provided it is even survivable.
For all I know, The Almighty is having me build a cache of supplies and tools for someone I don't even know, to be found years from now, to enable them to build upon the ashes.
We don't know what the future will bring, but I reckon we're going to find out.
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China has been busy over the last few years spending its yankee bucks on natural resources wherever it can buy rights to them. The South China sea has more than just resources, it has shipping lanes, too. See this article for further explanation. They want a lot more than just a new place to soak up some rays and drink umbrella drinks. http://www.businessinsider.com/tensions-in-the-south-china-sea-explained-in-18-maps-2015-1/#5natural-resources-in-the-south-china-sea-5 (http://www.businessinsider.com/tensions-in-the-south-china-sea-explained-in-18-maps-2015-1/#5natural-resources-in-the-south-china-sea-5)
Worthy points, imho.
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It's already starting if you haven't been paying attention.
We got the Japs, Chinamen and the US having a pissing match over islands off Japan that keeps escalating. We are at serious odds with the Soviets in multiple areas around the globe. The Soviets just ran a full nuke drill for the entire country. The Soviets and Chinamen are ramping up their nuclear capabilities. We just had an effen MAJOR cyber attack this weekend that is a very bad harbinger of things to come for us. Europe, South America and the Middle East have become totally destabilized over the last couple years. Russia is teetering on the edge of ruin because of the depressed oil prices and China is right behind them because the world economy can't even afford their cheap shit anymore. Hell, Hanjin just folded because there wasn't enough cheap Chinese garbage to ship globally.....HANJIN!
Just because the bubble headed broads at FOX News haven't reported any of this doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Good points, imho.
Thanks.
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I had the sense that something was unfathomably WRONG, on a cosmic scale, just a month or two before Obama was elected. I'm not normally given to such 'feelings', I'm a scientist and a skeptic about such. I just can't describe it any other way. I paid off my bills and debts, put money and trade goods away, stocked the larder, and always keep my gas tanks in the six vehicles I have on the pavement full. There are a few extra gallons of fuel around. It wasn't that I haven't been a little bit of a prepper all along, working in remote areas and relying on my own resources on occasion to survive, but this was different. Having a house fire in the middle of all that was a mite disruptive, and thankfully we've mostly recovered from that.
The one thing about forecasting the future, is you can't.
You can go by past trends with some things, which had me pack away enough resources to survive without income while we had an oil boom (knowing a 'bust' follows), but even that has its limits. Some of those resources have been consumed in the recovery from the fire, some are being used to get by, and others persist. That fire hammered home that no matter what you do, you have to have backup plans for your backup plans, and even at the very good money I was making at the time, there is a definite limit to what you can prepare for, provided it is even survivable.
For all I know, The Almighty is having me build a cache of supplies and tools for someone I don't even know, to be found years from now, to enable them to build upon the ashes.
We don't know what the future will bring, but I reckon we're going to find out.
Congrats on recovery from the fire and on your presence of mind re prepping. Sounds wise, to me.
Thanks for your contribution and perspective.
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Quite literally, nothing in the OP is true.
Nothing.
China has not tested its nukes nor test fired an ICBM.
Nor are our generals saying WW3 is imminent.
And China is doing what it's historically done for 3000 years, protect its trade routes. As most of its trade is by sea nowadays, that's their military focus.
Just read their defense white paper on the matter:
http://eng.mod.gov.cn/Database/WhitePapers/2015-05/26/content_4586713.htm
I'll try and check out the white papers another day.
Wellll, I checked out the white paper . . . I see it is by the Chinese. It's a bit of an interesting read when one has lived in the culture. It sounds like you are a True Believer in every Chinese word in that white paper.
I'm not.
It also sounds like you may not have surveyed a sufficient number of other documents on the topic from which to make an informed assessment.
You sound like you have surveyed the entire general/admiral corps. I'm rather skeptical that you've done that.
There are videos of some general(s) etc. going on the record saying such things. Are you claiming that such videos are of imposters? ET's pretending to be our generals? Clones? Actors? What?
Are you also asserting that the globalists have NOT been planning on and setting up WW3 for many years?
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Anonymous can suck it until they produce the video of Bill Clinton raping a teen at orgy island they claimed to have. Until then, they are just liars with an agenda.
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Congrats on recovery from the fire and on your presence of mind re prepping. Sounds wise, to me.
Thanks for your contribution and perspective.
Thanks, Quix. Aside from a new pet rabbit my granddaughter had (a recent gift from a friend she wasn't deeply attached to yet), we all lived through it. The rest is just stuff. The shame of that is that there were books in that library (about $7000.00 worth at used prices destroyed), some first editions lost, and a couple I have only been able to find online as .pdf files, no hard copies ( I had no idea they were that rare). We were incredibly lucky, actually, and the structure survived to live on past 100. I hope the next 100 years are easier on it... :laugh:
BTW, I swear by State farm Insurance after that experience. After well over 100K in reimbursements and repair costs, the homeowners insurance only went up $30 the next year.
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Anonymous can suck it until they produce the video of Bill Clinton raping a teen at orgy island they claimed to have. Until then, they are just liars with an agenda.
I gather your agenda is opposite their's?
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Thanks, Quix. Aside from a new pet rabbit my granddaughter had (a recent gift from a friend she wasn't deeply attached to yet), we all lived through it. The rest is just stuff. The shame of that is that there were books in that library (about $7000.00 worth at used prices destroyed), some first editions lost, and a couple I have only been able to find online as .pdf files, no hard copies ( I had no idea they were that rare). We were incredibly lucky, actually, and the structure survived to live on past 100. I hope the next 100 years are easier on it... :laugh:
BTW, I swear by State farm Insurance after that experience. After well over 100K in reimbursements and repair costs, the homeowners insurance only went up $30 the next year.
Sounds like an incredible library.
Did you have any foredge painting books?
Yeah, State Farm did right by us . . . when mom foolishly left a cardboard box on top of the gas burner with a pilot light . . . and left for church. Mercifully, God must have intervened, it only burned one side of the oven and part of the wall behind the range. They were good on car insurance, too.
I long for the day when . . . The Lord installs me in a building not made with hands.
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1. That white paper is for the Chinese government consumption, not for foreign propaganda. It's what *THEY* believe. Not what they want you to think they believe.
2. Generals/Admirals are not saying there is a WW3 imminent or on the horizon. Period.
3. And a globalist would not want WW3, as it'd kill off millions of customers and destroy factories. They'd lose money.
I don't find your research on globalism convincing at all.
You sound omniscient about Generals and Admirals on WW3. Where does such vast 'knowledge' arise from? You seem to think that your fierce assertions should be convincing on their own. I don't find them so.
I haven't investigated nor read all the white paper. However . . . something that the Chinese believe to be true for their consumption only . . . would probably not see the light of day in the Western media . . . at least . . . imho . . . not as that is held out to be.
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I gather your agenda is opposite their's?
Anonymous is a bunch of professed anarchists, so, um, YEAH.
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I don't find your research on globalism convincing at all. You could correct that by looking up the collections of globalist quotes in their own words from the last 100+ years.
You sound omniscient about Generals and Admirals on WW3. Where does such vast 'knowledge' arise from? You seem to think that your fierce assertions should be convincing on their own. I don't find them so.
I haven't investigated nor read all the white paper. However . . . something that the Chinese believe to be true for their consumption only . . . would probably not see the light of day in the Western media . . . at least . . . imho . . . not as that is held out to be.
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Anonymous is a bunch of professed anarchists, so, um, YEAH.
Except that the globalists plan to create and use a period of anarchy toward their overt establishment of the one world government . . .
I'd consider anarchy much preferable to their tyrannical one world government.
I think it's in the good company of Orwell's assertion that in an era, context of tyranny, telling the truth is a subversive act.
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Hmmmmm
I don't think anyone but God can be certain about when WW3 will occur.
However, I cannot recall a time in my 70 years when the diversity of warnings and the ranks, lev els of those warning of WW3 have been so plentiful and high. Some of the following videos share some factoids about the issue. Others are merely supplemental background sorts of things to factor in along with the consideration of the timing of WW3.
Gen Mark Milley seems to sound a bit different . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0GLclm_1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQyNJA7tPP4
Top US General Joseph Dunford Warns Senator WW3 With Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxHGeAb8uY
Top Army General: Prepare For War As Big As WW2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzPaCxHLl8s
On The Brink--U.S. Commander Refused to Attack Russia (SkyKing Encrypted Message)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CfKaodrttA
China Russia And Iran are Preparing for WW3 . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-1Xg_mTj1Q
WW3: US & Israel preparing options for Iran Strike! [Global Conflict?]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmnf2G0pBz8
Conspiracy Fact: NATO's Russia War Push
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CSjyCXDKbc&index=2&list=PLjSR7BIPFzVFxJQicQpwq8jWrR4WCS-xO
U S General Warns of 'Hybrid Armies' and 'Little Green Men'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4zXxtJbciA
America: Obama is purging the U.S. Military by firing 200 Top Military Officers (Nov 14 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rDbOgq-_k
Analyst: Threat of US military confrontation with Russia intensifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31BGCVf9kI
General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned--Seven Countries in Five Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
Graham Questions Secretary Mabus, Admiral Richardson and General Neller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9GTyyTSuhc
America False Flag Imminent: US Generals Who Won't Enforce Martial Law Being Fired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqheo3EX_cg
Army Chief of Staff General Ray Odierno: Future of the U.S. Army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTlBR9Q0BFQ
4 Star General Scaparrotti (EUCOM): Concerns About Turkey, Russia, Iran, China, Syria #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV5m_aysuLE
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Sounds like an incredible library.
Did you have any foredge painting books?
No foredge painting books, I'm afraid.
Yeah, State Farm did right by us . . . when mom foolishly left a cardboard box on top of the gas burner with a pilot light . . . and left for church. Mercifully, God must have intervened, it only burned one side of the oven and part of the wall behind the range. They were good on car insurance, too.
I long for the day when . . . The Lord installs me in a building not made with hands.
Well, it was. I saved the most of the best books by accident (had them in another room, which was well sealed, and others stored in another part of the house, of which 2 floors survived relatively unscathed. Some will have a smoky smell, likely, even though they were to be ozone treated to remove that. I'm down to maybe 3000 volumes, now, and much of that in storage.
I'm learning finish carpentry/cabinetmaking to build bookcases...
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@Quix I'm not making light of this serious subject. Honestly I'm not.
The Hopi Indians say this world will end by fire.
There is a part of me that almost wishes the Giant Meteor will happen, and the world can start anew.
I don't know if it's election malaise talking or depression from my Dad's death earlier this month. But I am finding it very hard to see the good in the world right now. At least with people. Something is in the air and we are acting like less than human towards each other.
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@Quix I'm not making light of this serious subject. Honestly I'm not.
The Hopi Indians say this world will end by fire.
There is a part of me that almost wishes the Giant Meteor will happen, and the world can start anew.
I don't know if it's election malaise talking or depression from my Dad's death earlier this month. But I am finding it very hard to see the good in the world right now. At least with people. Something is in the air and we are acting like less than human towards each other.
Indeed. Evil is flooding the planet in a list of ways and a variety of intensities . . . increasingly.
Thanks for your fine posts.
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We are long overdue for a major WW or plague and this time the homeland is not going to be exempt
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We are long overdue for a major WW or plague and this time the homeland is not going to be exempt
ALL the wars since and including the French Revolution have been set up and triggered off by the globalist oligarchy--DELIBERATELY--for geopolitical maneuvering-toward-global-government reasons.
They have certainly been setting up WW3 for quite some time.
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ALL the wars since and including the French Revolution have been set up and triggered off by the globalist oligarchy--DELIBERATELY--for geopolitical maneuvering-toward-global-government reasons.
They have certainly been setting up WW3 for quite some time.
I'm a firm believer in Daniel 10 so I don't necessarily disagree. But on the other hand they sure haven't done a great job getting this global government enacted in all those years. Which means God isn't going to let this happen, but on his schedule. We now have technology and the geo-political situation is a place that makes a global government more achievable than it's ever been. We could easily be waiting on an event like Ezekiel 38 or I Thessalonians 4:17 to kick things off. Time will tell.
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I'm a firm believer in Daniel 10 so I don't necessarily disagree. But on the other hand they sure haven't done a great job getting this global government enacted in all those years. Which means God isn't going to let this happen, but on his schedule. We now have technology and the geo-political situation is a place that makes a global government more achievable than it's ever been. We could easily be waiting on an event like Ezekiel 38 or I Thessalonians 4:17 to kick things off. Time will tell.
Good points.
As to the length time . . . the globalists have had enough devilish 'wisdom' to use the frog in the bucket method extensively.
However, this close to their goal, they seem to be getting antsy and eager to implement their total tyranny.
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Some folks are 'getting it' . . . Draft our Daughters for Shrillery's Wars . . .
https://twitter.com/search?q=DraftOurDaughters
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Good points.
As to the length time . . . the globalists have had enough devilish 'wisdom' to use the frog in the bucket method extensively.
However, this close to their goal, they seem to be getting antsy and eager to implement their total tyranny.
They always overreach in the home stretch.
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They always overreach in the home stretch.
Yup.
Thankfully . . . in contrast to my early years on FR . . . at least most conservative folks seem to be aware of the globalists and their encroaching tyrannical world government. Even a lot of moderates are.
I don't get called a looney kook near as often.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoI7KMJuQBw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoI7KMJuQBw)
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SOUNDS reasonable.
I'm not sure those factoids carry the weight you assign to them, however.
@DB @Quix
IMHO you are looking in the wrong direction. Where I clearly see a threat of war is in Syria. Hillary strongly supports a No Fly Zone (NFZ) in Syria. Now since ISIS does not have an air force the NFZ has to be aimed at some other party. Care to guess who that party might be? Yup Syria and Russia.
Now what do you think is going to happen once the USA starts shooting down Russian (or even Syrian) air craft in Syria? Russia has the ability to impose it's own no fly zone with it's S300 and S400 anti-air systems in Syria. And that's not counting the anti-air capabilities of the fleet of wars ships that are right now heading to Syria.
What happens when Russian ships start downing US aircraft?
What happens when the US Navy starts sinking the Russian war ships that are downing US Planes?
Yeah the whole area goes CA-BOOM. We are playing a very dangerous game in Syria a country that we should have no interest in other than being an ally of Israel.
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@DB @Quix
IMHO you are looking in the wrong direction. Where I clearly see a threat of war is in Syria. Hillary strongly supports a No Fly Zone (NFZ) in Syria. Now since ISIS does not have an air force the NFZ has to be aimed at some other party. Care to guess who that party might be? Yup Syria and Russia.
Now what do you think is going to happen once the USA starts shooting down Russian (or even Syrian) air craft in Syria? Russia has the ability to impose it's own no fly zone with it's S300 and S400 anti-air systems in Syria. And that's not counting the anti-air capabilities of the fleet of wars ships that are right now heading to Syria.
What happens when Russian ships start downing US aircraft?
What happens when the US Navy starts sinking the Russian war ships that are downing US Planes?
Yeah the whole area goes CA-BOOM. We are playing a very dangerous game in Syria a country that we should have no interest in other than being an ally of Israel.
imho, you make valid and very important points.
Certainly Syria seems highly likely to be the front door to WW3.
The South China Sea could play into it but I think Syria is much more brittle, thin-skinned and likely.
Sooner or later, one way or another, the oligarchy WILL light off WW3. It is only a question of time . . . and evidently not a lot of that.
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imho, you make valid and very important points.
Certainly Syria seems highly likely to be the front door to WW3.
The South China Sea could play into it but I think Syria is much more brittle, thin-skinned and likely.
Sooner or later, one way or another, the oligarchy WILL light off WW3. It is only a question of time . . . and evidently not a lot of that.
With Hillary I think war with Russia and perhaps China too is very likely. With Trump I think it likely that Zero will try to start a war with Russia prior to Trump taking office. So use the time between now and election day to prepare, after the election things get dicey depending on who wins. If by some miracle Trump is sworn in the threat of war IMHO is greatly lessened.
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With Hillary I think war with Russia and perhaps China too is very likely. With Trump I think it likely that Zero will try to start a war with Russia prior to Trump taking office. So use the time between now and election day to prepare, after the election things get dicey depending on who wins. If by some miracle Trump is sworn in the threat of war IMHO is greatly lessened.
I still have a hard time guessing what the oligarchy is doing with Trump.
A number of folks have insisted that WW3 WILL occur before the end of 2017. We shall see.
I agree that--evidently--Trump would decrease the likelihood of WW3 immediately--unless OThuga is told to light it off before Trump is installed.
Shrillery's extreme degree of Attachment Disorder and her resulting absolutely vengeful character, mean-spirited persona, virulent chronic hate, virulent chronic rage-a-holic way of being in the world etc. etc. etc. make for one volatile and SUPER DESTRUCTIVE bw*tch.
Certainly interesting times . . . in the Chinese sense of the word.
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@Quix
Most of the psychics I've heard have two scenarios. 2017 or 2027 for nuclear war.
If Trump is elected, most feel he will be impeached in his second year. So he's the scenario for 2027.
If a democrat is elected- our number is up in spring or summer 2017.
Of course I still feel in my gut there won't be an election. I think we get another term of O, thanks to yesterday's email news.
I brought out my tarot cards and I honestly think the election will be cancelled or postponed.
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imho, you make valid and very important points.
Certainly Syria seems highly likely to be the front door to WW3.
The South China Sea could play into it but I think Syria is much more brittle, thin-skinned and likely.
Sooner or later, one way or another, the oligarchy WILL light off WW3. It is only a question of time . . . and evidently not a lot of that.
Russia and France both have carriers in the eastern Mediterranean. Is USS Truman still there as well?
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I still have a hard time guessing what the oligarchy is doing with Trump.
A number of folks have insisted that WW3 WILL occur before the end of 2017. We shall see.
I agree that--evidently--Trump would decrease the likelihood of WW3 immediately--unless OThuga is told to light it off before Trump is installed.
Shrillery's extreme degree of Attachment Disorder and her resulting absolutely vengeful character, mean-spirited persona, virulent chronic hate, virulent chronic rage-a-holic way of being in the world etc. etc. etc. make for one volatile and SUPER DESTRUCTIVE bw*tch.
Certainly interesting times . . . in the Chinese sense of the word.
I still think the most likely scenario is iran/Russia invade Israel to start the Ezekiel 38 war either prior to the election or before the next inauguration In that case the results of the election do not matter much as we will be off to the end times and headed straight into the tribulation. If I am wrong time is still very short. I am looking up as commanded by Jesus
Maranatha!
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I'm a firm believer in Daniel 10 so I don't necessarily disagree. But on the other hand they sure haven't done a great job getting this global government enacted in all those years. Which means God isn't going to let this happen, but on his schedule. We now have technology and the geo-political situation is a place that makes a global government more achievable than it's ever been. We could easily be waiting on an event like Ezekiel 38 or I Thessalonians 4:17 to kick things off. Time will tell.
@Idaho_Cowboy
My bet is iran has either built or bought a nuke They will pull Russia with them and invade Israel shortly I think we are about to see Ezekiel 38 and Isaiah 17:1 fulfilled before our eyes I encourage all to do the only prepping that will help in this situation Draw close to Jesus and seek refuge and shelter in Him alone
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@Idaho_Cowboy
My bet is iran has either built or bought a nuke They will pull Russia with them and invade Israel shortly I think we are about to see Ezekiel 38 and Isaiah 17:1 fulfilled before our eyes I encourage all to do the only prepping that will help in this situation Draw close to Jesus and seek refuge and shelter in Him alone
I think the Ps 83 war will happen before Ez. 38 can occur... Otherwise in hearty agreement
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I think the Ps 83 war will happen before Ez. 38 can occur... Otherwise in hearty agreement
I read somewhere that the western wall is starting to decay in spots. They say it's normal wear and tear on the ancient limestone, but I wonder.......
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The Dead Sea is also starting to dry up..
http://www.ecowatch.com/the-dead-sea-is-shrinking-at-alarming-rate-a-record-low-point-for-eart-1891181208.html
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I read somewhere that the western wall is starting to decay in spots. They say it's normal wear and tear on the ancient limestone, but I wonder.......
Most of the decay is erosion caused by digging on top of the Temple Mount.
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Most of the decay is erosion caused by digging on top of the Temple Mount.
As long as it's not a sign...I have been told it's the most religious experience you can have, to pray in front of it. I'd like to get there some day.
Everyone I know who has been there comes back a different person. Changed in a good, better way.
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As long as it's not a sign...I have been told it's the most religious experience you can have, to pray in front of it. I'd like to get there some day.
Me too, I guess. I am not a traveler, but if there is one place on the planet I would like to go to, Israel would be in first place... And hopefully for Pesach or Sukkot.
Everyone I know who has been there comes back a different person. Changed in a good, better way.
No doubt. To touch those stones, so full of the hopes and prayers of the ages, must be an extraordinary experience.
Shabbat Shalom, btw... :)
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@Quix
Most of the psychics I've heard have two scenarios. 2017 or 2027 for nuclear war.
If Trump is elected, most feel he will be impeached in his second year. So he's the scenario for 2027.
If a democrat is elected- our number is up in spring or summer 2017.
Of course I still feel in my gut there won't be an election. I think we get another term of O, thanks to yesterday's email news.
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Many folks scoff at the idea . . . but I still wouldn't put it past OThuga and the oligarchy to mess about with the SElection . . . or at least between then and the inauguration--particularly if Trump looks to win/has won.
As to the cards & consulting psychics as a source of anything in the direction of truth . . . The Bible has a ton of very severe things to say about consulting such sources--none of them healthy for those that do.
I cleansed my home of any hint of such stuff decades ago . . . by burning . . . and prayer and deliverance. I don't even like a horoscope in a newspaper in my home, actually. And I certainly don't consult it.
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Russia and France both have carriers in the eastern Mediterranean. Is USS Truman still there as well?
Have long felt that any group of several hundred MUST know someone(s) who work fairly closely with the elite top-of-the-heap sorts . . . and who would know when those cockroaches headed for their bunkers or at least the mountains of Argentina, say.
Monitoring the movements of the elite might be as indicative--or more so--than carrier movements.
imho.
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I still think the most likely scenario is iran/Russia invade Israel to start the Ezekiel 38 war either prior to the election or before the next inauguration In that case the results of the election do not matter much as we will be off to the end times and headed straight into the tribulation. If I am wrong time is still very short. I am looking up as commanded by Jesus
Maranatha!
For some reason, I just felt in my 'gut' that we won't have WW3 before the SElection.
I believe they want the SElection to go forward and to then spark whatever level of turmoil and chaos in the streets as seems fitting and attractive to those blood-thirsty, traitorous, demonized, stupid jerks from hell.
In the midst of such chaos would likely also be a prime time for our enemies to light off WW3 per the oligarchy's orders.
CERTAINLY time is short, regardless
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I think the Ps 83 war will happen before Ez. 38 can occur... Otherwise in hearty agreement
Would you be willing to summarize your thoughts on why you believe that from the Biblical evidence, please? I don't begin to have timelines sorted out in such terms.
Your assertion is at least plausible, however.
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I read somewhere that the western wall is starting to decay in spots. They say it's normal wear and tear on the ancient limestone, but I wonder.......
When I was there, the Western/wailing wall certainly had holes in it. But I don't think they were more than several inches deep. Those are pretty big blocks of limestone.
However, no doubt, the Muslims would love to erode every hint of Jewishness they could--particularly from there.
Which has always been a mystery to me--except for their arrogance and greed . . . they claim Allah is generous etc. etc. . . . so . . . the Muzzies have Mecca and Medina . . . why not generously give the Jews Jerusalem--to be like their claims about Allah?
I guess they'd rather be clueless demonized blood-thirsty idiots rebelling against the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob at the urgings of their demonized leader of eons ago.
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Would you be willing to summarize your thoughts on why you believe that from the Biblical evidence, please? I don't begin to have timelines sorted out in such terms.
Your assertion is at least plausible, however.
It's a simple logical deduction, really... Ez38, in describing the players omits all those nations directly adjoined to Israel, and particularly the organizations which are a thorn in Israel's side.
Ps83 is very specifically about those very players, and since they are gone by the time of Ez38, Ps 83 likely already occurred. See?
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Then . . . there's this lovely little item I just happened onto:
http://www.newstarget.com/2016-10-21-breakthrough-gravitational-wave-technology-could-allow-china-to-destroy-the-entire-u-s-nuclear-submarine-fleet.html
Breakthrough gravitational wave tech could allow China to destroy the entire U.S. nuclear sub fleet
The Daily Galaxy reports, “China could be the first nation to use cold atom interferometry to detect submarines, according to a researcher at the Beijing-based China Academy of Space Technology, which has initiated and designed most of China’s space projects. The cold atom interferometer would be part of a super-cold atom laboratory in the space station’s experimental module.”
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It's a simple logical deduction, really... Ez38, in describing the players omits all those nations directly adjoined to Israel, and particularly the organizations which are a thorn in Israel's side.
Ps83 is very specifically about those very players, and since they are gone by the time of Ez38, Ps 83 likely already occurred. See?
Works for me! MARANATHA!
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Me too, I guess. I am not a traveler, but if there is one place on the planet I would like to go to, Israel would be in first place... And hopefully for Pesach or Sukkot.
No doubt. To touch those stones, so full of the hopes and prayers of the ages, must be an extraordinary experience.
Shabbat Shalom, btw... :)
I can't wait to get to Israel I won't get there until Christ comes for His Church. Won't it be phenomenal to celebrates feasts with Jesus in Jerusalem?
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Except that the globalists plan to create and use a period of anarchy toward their overt establishment of the one world government . . .
I'd consider anarchy much preferable to their tyrannical one world government.
I think it's in the good company of Orwell's assertion that in an era, context of tyranny, telling the truth is a subversive act.
Dude - this is some hard to follow logic. You asked if my agenda is different than the anarchists. I say, "Yes."
Then you lump the anarchists in with the globalists. To which I'd also say, "Yep - and my agenda doesn't align with the globalists, either."
The you say you'd prefer anarchy - which you *just* tried to establish was really part of a globalist scheme... so... you really secretly support globalism?
You're tying yourself in knots. Much like that false Clinton/Trump dichotomy, it's not just two sides here. I don't support anarchists. I don't support globalists. You don't have to prefer or want EITHER.
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Dude - this is some hard to follow logic. You asked if my agenda is different than the anarchists. I say, "Yes."
Then you lump the anarchists in with the globalists. To which I'd also say, "Yep - and my agenda doesn't align with the globalists, either."
The you say you'd prefer anarchy - which you *just* tried to establish was really part of a globalist scheme... so... you really secretly support globalism?
You're tying yourself in knots. Much like that false Clinton/Trump dichotomy, it's not just two sides here. I don't support anarchists. I don't support globalists. You don't have to prefer or want EITHER.
I don't prefer anarchy or globalism.
Anarchy, to the globalists . . . is just another temporary tool in their hands.
Nevertheless, I prefer anarchy--no order--chaotic social conditions--to the utter straight-jacket tyranny of the globalists.
I don't understand what's so troublesome to grasp about my perspective.
I don't like either.
If one must have one or the other--I'd choose anarchy.
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I can't wait to get to Israel I won't get there until Christ comes for His Church. Won't it be phenomenal to celebrates feasts with Jesus in Jerusalem?
Gads, I long for that day.
Indeed!
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Am going to put this here as I don't want to list it in its own thread and it does fit as I think it will be a compounding, intensifying factor in WW3. I think the whole article at the source is well worth your time.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/30/dea-official-spills-the-beans-on-the-clinton-foundation/
From Dave Hodges The Common Sense Show
DEA Official Spills The Beans On The Clinton Foundation {and a lot of other out-right TREASON}
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To a person my colleagues feel betrayed by the present FBI Director and Attorney General, but I am telling you that Obama is controlling the activities through his appointed CIA operatives who have infiltrated the DOJ as well as military, generally, and the FBI, specifically. The tone of the influence is decidedly pro-“Radical” Muslim and anti-American in the traditional sense. This undue influence often seeks to perpetuate the activities of those people of privilege who seem to be beyond the reach of traditional law enforcement. Their activities include gun running and drug dealing. This has reached into your area because Maricopa County Sheriff Joe will be/is the victim of election fraud because the certain people want him out because he will not look the other way when it comes to cartel drug activity in Arizona which is key because Arizona is a border state.
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Your reporting of the corrupt voting machines in your area seems to be correct but Arpaio is more of a target than Trump because he is an impediment to drug trafficking in your area. You have to remember that your Sheriff was at one time one of us, so we know what we are seeing. Yes- I am saying that Obama’s DOJ is protecting the drug dealers by going after Arpaio. The persecution of the Sheriff has nothing to do with the violations of the civil rights of immigrants and has everything to do with his refusal to cooperate with the Obama administration by looking the other way when it comes to both cartel and the intertwined activities of terrorists that have crossed our borders in great numbers since 2010.
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A case in point from the past: Do you remember when Congressman Bridenstine tried to enter a holding facility for immigrants at Ft. Sill during the 2014 immigration crisis and he was told by DHS to come back and make an appointment? DHS was attempting to shield what was truly going on which was the introduction of foreign operatives into mainstream America. West African terrorists are also coming across our border with bad intentions, not just people from Central America and the Middle East. I have every indication that these forces are ready to unleash massive waves of destruction in our country as their drug activities have increased exponentially in the past several months. They are raising money for purposes that extend far beyond mere living expenses.
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The DEA is just as corrupted as the FBI, as we are still honoring our under-the-table agreement with the Sinolas in which we agree to only interdict 20% of the drug shipments into the United States in exchange for some unknown amount of intelligence information. How many terrorist cells do you think we are knowingly letting in along with the drugs? It was during the same time frame that you and I were talking that Judicial Watch came across the ISIS and drug cartel base camp near El Paso. I am sure you asked yourself how many facilities like this one exist and if there are any inside of the United States? There are and they are now working with foreign entities inside the United States. When we make our token busts, we frequently come upon the involvement of Russian and Chinese national who are in this country and they are immediately released by DOJ and DHS. It is starting to look like one big and happy criminal enterprise family that is international in scope but does enjoy the protection of the Obama administration.
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I can't wait to get to Israel I won't get there until Christ comes for His Church. Won't it be phenomenal to celebrates feasts with Jesus in Jerusalem?
...And the whole world showing up?? Absolutely.
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I'm going to throw something out here- I don't know if I'm being in a different state of mind because I'm grieving my dad- but it seems people in the last month or so - September , October, have gotten nastier and less patient and kind with each other.
I'm seeing people using F bombs and middle fingers at the grocery store in front of their toddlers, and yelling at the cashiers and pharmacists.
It's making me turn into an agoraphobic hermit.
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Most of the decay is erosion caused by digging on top of the Temple Mount.
@Freya It's been a while since I've seen any reports. But I had heard the Arabs were digging under the dome of the rock and the temple mount trying to find and destroy as many Jewish artifacts as they could so the Jews can't claim the site. Wouldn't be surprised if they turned the whole thing into a sinkhole someday.
http://templemountfaithful.org/articles/destruction-on-the-temple-mount-february-2011.php
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I'm going to throw something out here- I don't know if I'm being in a different state of mind because I'm grieving my dad- but it seems people in the last month or so - September , October, have gotten nastier and less patient and kind with each other.
I'm seeing people using F bombs and middle fingers at the grocery store in front of their toddlers, and yelling at the cashiers and pharmacists.
It's making me turn into an agoraphobic hermit.
May The Lord bless you as you work through the loss of your dad. Mine graduated 3 years ago this month--a day from his birthday at 92 or so.
I agree about people getting nastier . . . lawlessness is ramping up across the planet and certainly in our country.
Keeping our eyes on The Lord and maintaining our walk and intimacy with him, is vital.
God's best to you.
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@Freya It's been a while since I've seen any reports. But I had heard the Arabs were digging under the dome of the rock and the temple mount trying to find and destroy as many Jewish artifacts as they could so the Jews can't claim the site. Wouldn't be surprised if they turned the whole thing into a sinkhole someday.
http://templemountfaithful.org/articles/destruction-on-the-temple-mount-february-2011.php
Well put. Thankfully, God has a different plan.
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@Idaho_Cowboy
My bet is iran has either built or bought a nuke They will pull Russia with them and invade Israel shortly I think we are about to see Ezekiel 38 and Isaiah 17:1 fulfilled before our eyes I encourage all to do the only prepping that will help in this situation Draw close to Jesus and seek refuge and shelter in Him alone
It could easily be. The Israeli's seem to have been working against them with the computer virus and in the past have shown they aren't averse to a first strike if needed. The whole situation is teetering on the edge, wouldn't take much to push it over.
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Well put. Thankfully, God has a different plan.
That's the biggest prophetic mystery I see right now. How are the Jews going to build a new temple?
It's amazing to study. Genetically they know who the priests are, they have been making the tools for the temple. If reports are to be believed they even found a red heifer last year. That mean they only need the mount and possibly the Ark of the Covenant. And they may have the Ark and are being cagey about it.
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That's the biggest prophetic mystery I see right now. How are the Jews going to build a new temple?
It's amazing to study. Genetically they know who the priests are, they have been making the tools for the temple. If reports are to be believed they even found a red heifer last year. That mean they only need the mount and possibly the Ark of the Covenant. And they may have the Ark and are being cagey about it.
I've read a convincing book that the Dome of the Rock is not where the last Temple was anyway. That a new Temple could be built without bothering the Dome at all.
But God has His ways, regardless.
Some think that the Anti-Christ will insure the building of the new Temple . . . only to desecrate it 3.5 years later.
Time will tell.
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rough rating, impression re seriousness:
6.5-8.5, imho
@Quix
"imho, folks not prepared with significant food, water etc. stores . . . are either not paying attention..."
Along with the above items, have a supply of $1 bills and quarters in your house. If banking goes down, you will need these for whatever commerce is left. And, never trade someone bullets for anything. Those bullets will be used on you to take your stores for him/her/them. When people are hungry or thristy, they will go to any length for water/food for themselves and their family.
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"imho, folks not prepared with significant food, water etc. stores . . . are either not paying attention..."
Along with the above items, have a supply of $1 bills and quarters in your house. If banking goes down, you will need these for whatever commerce is left. And, never trade someone bullets for anything. Those bullets will be used on you to take your stores for him/her/them. When people are hungry or thristy, they will go to any length for water/food for themselves and their family.
Indeed. Well put.
Thanks.
Cheers.
Praise The Lord and Pass the Ammo.
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@Freya It's been a while since I've seen any reports. But I had heard the Arabs were digging under the dome of the rock and the temple mount trying to find and destroy as many Jewish artifacts as they could so the Jews can't claim the site. Wouldn't be surprised if they turned the whole thing into a sinkhole someday.
http://templemountfaithful.org/articles/destruction-on-the-temple-mount-february-2011.php
Yep. They're hauling it off in dump trucks - Fortunately, Israel is sifting the tailings, and have found more first Temple evidence than they've ever had before.