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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 07:01:51 pm
Americans stuck in Gaza despite diplomatic deal to allow them to leave By Isabel Vincent Published Oct. 14, 2023, 1:42 p.m. ET
American citizens said they were stranded in Gaza despite a tentative deal with Egypt, the US and Israel that allowed them to cross into Egypt Saturday, according to reports.
The diplomatic deal brokered among the three countries allowed more than 500 Americans stuck in the Gaza Strip to leave the war-ravaged enclave through the Rafah crossing until 10 a.m. ET but dozens of US citizens said they were still trapped.
As the deadline loomed, it still wasn’t clear whether Hamas would allow the movement of U.S. citizens or other foreigners to the Egyptian border crossing, the Wall Street Journal reported.
“This is absolutely nerve-racking,” said Lena Beseiso, 57, who was waiting on the Gaza side of the border with her husband, two of her daughters and a 10-year-old grandson, in a text message seen by the New York Times. “I’m so worried now more than ever before.”
It’s unclear why the border was closed, with some reports saying Egypt would not allow US passport holders to cross unless Israel and the US allowed truckloads of aid which are massed at Rafah to enter the Gaza Strip, according to social media posts.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/14/us-citizens-still-trapped-at-gaza-border-crossing/
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Post by: MOD7 on October 14, 2023, 07:25:37 pm
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Post by: Bigun on October 14, 2023, 07:43:27 pm
:bkmk:
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Post by: corbe on October 14, 2023, 07:47:11 pm
:patriot:
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Post by: bigheadfred on October 14, 2023, 07:49:29 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1m · Iran reportedly sent a U.N. Envoy to Israel on Saturday stating that they do not wish for further Escalation in the Conflict, but that they would be forced to Intervene if Israel continues its Operation against Gaza or launches an Invasion of the Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 07:53:58 pm
Kutz family: Father, mother and three teens die in embrace Murdered in their Kfar Azza home, October 7, 2023 By Renee Ghert-Zand
their Kfar Azza home on October 7, 2023. (Facebook. Used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)
Aviv (54), Livnat (49), Rotem (19), Yonatan (17), and Yiftach (15) Kutz were murdered by Hamas terrorists in their home in Kfar Aza on October, 7, 2023. An entire family was wiped out.
After initially counted among the missing, neighbors from the kibbutz found them together in a bed, with father Aviv providing a protective embrace.
more https://www.timesofisrael.com/kutz-family-father-mother-and-three-teens-die-in-embrace/
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Post by: DB on October 14, 2023, 07:58:15 pm
:bkmk:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 08:03:51 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1m · Iran reportedly sent a U.N. Envoy to Israel on Saturday stating that they do not wish for further Escalation in the Conflict, but that they would be forced to Intervene if Israel continues its Operation against Gaza or launches an Invasion of the Strip.
WWIII??
I don't think that there's any way that the U.S. won't be involved ... as well as Ukraine ... and possibly Taiwan.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 08:25:40 pm
RE post 7 (showing pali kids training with arms). Those "kids" should be regarded as enemy targets, same as adults. And fired upon as such. Sorry if you don't like this post.
No objection from me. As soon as they pick up a weapon, they're certainly enemy combatants. Just like the kids Hitler threw into battle in the waning days of WWII.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 10:25:18 pm
Report: Iran Tries to Save Hamas, Threatens War if Israel Invades Gaza
Iran’s foreign minister told the U.N. that Iran was ready to “intervene” if Israel responded to Hamas’s carnage.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 10:28:18 pm
U.S. State Department confirms 29 American citizens killed in Israel, 15 unaccounted for
The State Department confirmed on Saturday afternoon that 29 American citizens have been killed in Israel during the country's war with Hamas.
15 American citizens are also unaccounted for, including one lawful permanent resident.
"At this time, we can confirm the deaths of 29 U.S. citizens. We extend our deepest condolences to the victims and to the families of all those affected. We are not commenting further on the circumstances of the U.S. citizen deaths or the identities of the deceased at this time," a State Department spokesperson said.
"At this time, we are also aware of 15 U.S. citizens who are unaccounted-for, as well as one lawful permanent resident. State Department personnel have been in contact with their families. The U.S. government is working around the clock to determine their whereabouts and is working with the Israeli government on every aspect of the hostage crisis, including sharing intelligence and deploying experts from across the United States government to advise the Israeli government on hostage recovery efforts. For privacy and security reasons, we have nothing further to share," the spokesperson added. Posted by Adam Sabes
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 10:29:22 pm
Casualties, kidnapped and more numbers since Hamas' attack on Israel
Since the surprise attack on Israel by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7, hundreds of civilians, including babies, the elderly, and soldiers have been killed, wounded or captured. Israel retaliated against Hamas by firing missiles into Gaza.
A terror attack by Hamas at a music festival in Israel claimed the lives of at least 260 concert-goers with many others kidnapped and injured. Those abducted — including American citizens — are still being held hostage in Gaza.
"We now know that American citizens are among those being held by Hamas," President Biden said in a press conference Tuesday afternoon.
Below are the most recent numbers related to the war. Fox News Digital will continue to inform on fatalities, hostages, death toll and more as they are reported and confirmed by officials.
29 Americans are reported dead At least 1,300 Israeli civilians and soldiers have been killed At least 3,000 Israelis have been injured At least 8,700 Palestinians have been wounded At least 2,215 Palestinians and Hamas terrorists have been killed At least 150 soldiers and civilians are being held hostage in Gaza At least 5,000 rockets have been fired by Hamas terrorists At least 1,500 Hamas terrorists have been found dead At least 260 died at the Tribe of Nova music festival At least 70 terrorists invaded Kfar Aza At least 200 Israelis were found dead in Kfar Aza At least 30 missing persons have been located and rescued at a kibbutz The population of Gaza is 2,000,000 The population of Israel is 9,795,000 8 days of war as of Saturday, October 14
Fox News' Ashlyn Messier contributed to this update. Posted by Adam Sabes
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Post by: mountaineer on October 14, 2023, 10:30:25 pm
Video experts' investigation reveals that today, Hamas bombed people on the evacuation route in Gaza. The explosion was caused by a homemade Hamas IED, designed to falsely implicate Israel ... https://twitter.com/amjadt25/status/1713252246836654166
See also this thread: https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1713241560752533662
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Post by: mountaineer on October 14, 2023, 10:36:36 pm
Nuseibeh is the Founder of Cornerstone Global Associates and Chair of Muslims Against Anti Semitism:
Ghanem Nuseibeh @gnuseibeh Hamas feels abandoned by Iran. It appears plan was for Hizbollah to get involved but US threats against Iran stopped that. The original Hamas plan hasn’t worked out not because of Israeli attacks (which Hamas would have predicted) but because Iran effectively betrayed them 3:16 AM · Oct 14, 2023
Ghanem Nuseibeh @gnuseibeh A second northern front with Hizbollah would have been an existential threat to Israel. That was the original Hamas Iran plan. It hasn’t materialised. Israel is no longer facing an existential threat 3:18 AM · Oct 14, 2023
Stephen L. Miller @redsteeze Wait you mean Iran appears to have just been using Hamas this entire time? 4:15 PM · Oct 14, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 14, 2023, 10:45:15 pm
Israel ‘preparing to expand’ attack on Hamas with invasion of Gaza that will see ‘coordinated attack from the air, sea and land’ By Mary Kay Linge Published Oct. 14, 2023, 3:44 p.m. ET
Israel inched closer to launching a full invasion of Gaza Saturday, massing troops on the enclave’s border and “preparing to expand” its response to last week’s brutal terror attack on Israeli civilians.
The Israeli Defense Force signaled the imminent attack on Hamas forces with a lengthy post on its website hours after the close of a 24-hour evacuation window it had set for Gaza residents on Friday.
“This is our hour to stand this test, and our job is to decide and win this war,” Col. Bnei Aharon, commander of the IDF’s 401st Brigade, said in the military’s post “We have the best people, we have the best general. We are a combination of the best forces in the world.”
The IDF’s web page boasted that Israel will conduct “an integrated and coordinated attack from the air, sea and land” — but did not indicate when the operation will begin.
A series of forward logistics centers have been established within Israel to keep the troops taking part in the “significant ground operation” supplied, the military said.
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Post by: Elderberry on October 15, 2023, 12:10:21 am
EU Warns Musk's X Spreading 'Illegal' Disinfo after Hamas Attack
(https://english.aawsat.com/themes/custom/enaawsatv3/assets/img/aawsat-english-logo.svg) Asharq Al Awsat 08:08-11 October 2023 AD ـ 27 Rabi’ Al-Awwal 1445 AH
The EU's digital chief Thierry Breton warned Elon Musk on Tuesday that his platform X, formerly Twitter, is spreading "illegal content and disinformation", in a letter seen by AFP.
The letter said concerns had heightened after the Hamas attack against Israel, and demanded Musk respond to the complaint within 24 hours and contact "relevant law enforcement authorities".
As the European Union's commissioner for industry and the digital economy, Breton is charged with regulating internet giants that trade within the bloc, and can launch legal action.
"Following the terrorist attacks carried out by Hamas against Israel, we have indications that your platform is being used to disseminate illegal content and disinformation in the EU," Breton wrote.
Breton reminded Musk that EU law sets tough rules on moderating content, "especially when it comes to violent and terrorist content that appears to circulate on your platform".
He asked that X respond to his complaint within 24 hours and also get in touch with Europol, the EU police coordinating agency.
"We will include your answer in our assessment file on your compliance with the DSA," Breton said, referring to the new EU Digital Services Act, which regulates online platforms.
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 15, 2023, 12:15:27 am
<bmrk>
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on October 15, 2023, 12:37:45 am
:bkmk:
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Post by: Wingnut on October 15, 2023, 12:47:16 am
EU Warns Musk's X Spreading 'Illegal' Disinfo after Hamas Attack
(https://english.aawsat.com/themes/custom/enaawsatv3/assets/img/aawsat-english-logo.svg) Asharq Al Awsat 08:08-11 October 2023 AD ـ 27 Rabi’ Al-Awwal 1445 AH
The EU's digital chief Thierry Breton warned Elon Musk on Tuesday that his platform X, formerly Twitter, is spreading "illegal content and disinformation", in a letter seen by AFP.
"We will include your answer in our assessment file on your compliance with the DSA," Breton said, referring to the new EU Digital Services Act, which regulates online platforms.
LOL at the EU's digital chief Thierry Breton . Suck a Hamas dick.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 12:51:25 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 17m I don’t think anybody knows what’s going on anymore.
That is not a bad thing.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 12:56:48 am
Rashida Tlaib @RashidaTlaib · 6h I cannot believe I have to beg my country and colleagues to value every human life, no matter their faith or ethnicity. twitter.com/OmarSShakir/st…
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 12:58:04 am
I guess the word *imminent* means something different in the Jewish language...?
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Post by: libertybele on October 15, 2023, 12:58:17 am
Rashida Tlaib @RashidaTlaib · 6h I cannot believe I have to beg my country and colleagues to value every human life, no matter their faith or ethnicity. twitter.com/OmarSShakir/st…
I cannot believe that anyone would stand by those that butcher, mutilate, rape, murder, behead and parade dead bodies around.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:24:58 am
Chilling final texts of Israeli American family murdered by Hamas revealed: ‘They’re here’ By Rich Calder Published Oct. 14, 2023, 7:36 p.m. ET
An Israeli American family of six killed by Hamas militants on Oct. 7 texted relatives they had made it to safety – only to then send heartrending messages in their final minutes as they were murdered in their home.
“They’re here. They’re burning us. We’re suffocating,” Yonatan (Johnny) Kedem Siman Tov texted his sister Ranae Butler, who lives in Israel, The Independent reported.
Tov, his wife Tamar Kedem-Siman Tov, 35, and their three children — 6-year-old twin girls Shahar and Arbel and 4-year-old son Omer — as well as his mother, Carol Siman Tov, 70, were all killed at the family’s home in Nir Oz, a kibbutz on the outskirts of Gaza.
The family fled to “safe rooms” after Hamas militants fired a barrage of rockets. Once inside, they texted family and friends they were safe.
“Hi guys, we got into the shelter in our house, we are all going OK,” Tamar texted a loved one.
But an hour later, the messages stopped. Hamas militants had broken into their home and gunned them down in their safe room.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000058179100-1.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) Yonatan (Johnny) Kedem Siman Tov, his wife Tamar Kedem-Siman Tov, 35, and their three children were all killed in the attacks.
“Our hearts are shattered,” a family friend, Yishai Lacob, posted on Facebook, according to The Sun.
“An entire family was killed by evil murderers who shot the children and parents simply because they were Jewish. And this is just one story, among so many. It’s unbearable.”
Just because they say they won't attack due to weather, it could be disinformation. It's not a small decision. You have Iran threatening to attack, Syria, Lebanon, West Bank....geez...everyone is out to get them.
Right...after all it is coming from the NYTimes...I haven't seen it anyplace else
Even D-Day was delayed due to weather.. :shrug:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:42:21 am
Israel: No Negotiations over Hostages; We Are Eliminating Hamas
The Israeli government said Saturday that it would not negotiate with the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas over the release of between 100 and 200 Israeli and international hostages, because it was destroying the organization and not trying to save it.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:56:00 am
Per the NYT
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The invasion was initially planned for the weekend, but was delayed by a few days at least in part because of cloudy conditions that would have made it harder for Israeli pilots and drone operators to provide ground forces with air cover, the officers said.
In addition to infantry, the Israeli strike force will include tanks, sappers and commandos, the officers added. The ground troops will be given cover by war planes, helicopter gunships, aerial drones and artillery fired from land and sea.
What's the over/under for when the U.S. will be drawn into this?
Could be as soon as everyone realizes that Biden is really guilty of a lot of stuff, might wait until Iran tries to nuke one or more fleets in the Med.
Some folks are looking forward to Armageddon, and think it will benefit them.
The last Imam may well be a cockroach, climbing out of the well.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 03:34:26 am
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The Foreign Minister of Iran, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian met with the Leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh tonight in the Qatar Capital City of Doha.
Am I the only one who remembers the Soleimani finale?
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 03:46:15 am
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
A Chinese Envoy will reportedly Visit a number of Countries in the Middle East next week to weigh the possibility of a Peace Deal for the War in Israel.
11:05 PM · Oct 14, 2023
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Post by: 240B on October 15, 2023, 04:05:58 am
Just came from cruising the web and it is official. The world has time-warped back to 1935. I have never seen so much open antisemitic propaganda in my life. It is like we are all suddenly living in Nazi Germany. And so many regular ordinary people in Western Nations seems to thrive on it. Nobody knew the true extent of the antisemitic undercurrent in First-World countries until the Hamas terror attack. It seems to have awakened all the antisemitic sleepers around the world.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 15, 2023, 04:47:48 am
Canadian News take on Gaza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfNJw2HGho4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfNJw2HGho4)
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 04:58:47 am
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15 min ago
Israel will start "significant military operations" only once civilians have left, IDF says
Israel will start "significant military operations" in Gaza only once they see that civilians have left, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson told CNN.
"The important thing here to focus on is that we will commence significant military operations only once we see that civilians have left the area," Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus said.
"It's really important that people in Gaza know we've been very, very generous with the time. We have given ample warning, more than 25 hours... I cannot stress more than enough to say now is the time for Gazans to leave.
"Take your belongings, go south. Preserve your life, and do not fall into the trap that Hamas is setting up for you." More than half of Gaza’s 2 million residents live in the northern section that Israel has told to evacuate. Many families, some of whom were already internally displaced, are now crammed into an even smaller portion of the 140-square-mile territory.
Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been fleeing south through the battered streets of Gaza after the Israeli military told them to leave northern areas of the densely populated strip.
Parts of the south are becoming even more crowded and overstretched, Gazans say, as waves of Palestinians abandon their homes in the wake of Israel’s statement, ahead of an anticipated ground assault by the IDF.
According to Conricus, the area around the Gaza Strip is densely packed with "hundreds of thousands of Israeli reserve units" that are preparing for various missions.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 05:16:12 am
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27 min ago
It's morning in Gaza and Israel. Here's where things stand:
What would a ground invasion look like?
Israel’s tactics have always been to move quickly and control as much territory as possible, but avoid street-to-street, house-to-house fighting where a weaker opponent can take full advantage of the terrain, CNN's Ben Wedeman writes. Entering urban areas in Gaza, however, would bring a new element to the fight.
Hamas has shown a level of military capability far beyond what was previously thought, and is probably well-prepared for the next phase of the war, Wedeman's analysis notes.
Israeli forces will also have to be mindful dozens of Hamas hostages – both soldiers and civilians, including women and children – are being held in the crowded enclave. Although no one outside Hamas knows where they’re being held, it’s likely they’re in the most difficult areas for Israeli forces to access, possibly in refugee camps, Wedeman writes.
The crisis unfolding in Gaza:
Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been fleeing south through the battered streets of Gaza after the Israeli military told them to leave northern areas of the strip for their safety.
Parts of the south are becoming even more crowded and overstretched, Gazans say, as waves of Palestinians abandon their homes. The World Health Organization said Israel's call for mass evacuations amounts to "a death sentence for the sick and injured" at crowded hospitals in northern Gaza.
Israel has pounded the territory with airstrikes since Hamas launched its terror attacks last week, and has also ordered a "complete siege," cutting off access to electricity, fuel, food, medicine and water.
More airplanes carrying aid from Jordan, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, the World Health Organization and the Red Cross arrived at Egypt's El-Arish Airport Saturday, but Jordanian and Egyptian officials have said they are still trying to secure safe passage for the supplies.
Diplomatic efforts continue:
US President Joe Biden has spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to discuss security and efforts to prevent the conflict from widening.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken has met with leaders in the surrounding region, in an effort to address civilian protection, humanitarian aid and the need to prevent further escalation in the region.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 15, 2023, 05:21:19 am
Find tunnel networks. Fill tunnels with explosive gas mixtures. Detonate same from a safe distance (like a fuel air bomb), if activity in the tunnels does not set the mixture off. Lather, rinse, repeat...get Hamas above ground and deal with them. Deny them the labyrinths they have constructed.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 05:27:13 am
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35 minute ago
Gaza residents flee south as Israel prepares for ‘next stages of war’
Hundreds of thousands of people in northern Gaza are fleeing in buses, cars and on foot, crowding onto narrow roads leading south after Israel’s evacuation warning. The Israeli military said it is preparing a “wide range” of offensive plans “for the next stages of the war, with an emphasis on significant ground operations,” though it has not provided a concrete indication of when the assault would start.
A U.S. evacuation deal to allow American citizens to leave Gaza via the Rafah border into Egypt during a small window on Saturday faltered after Palestinian and Egyptian officials failed to communicate, The Washington Post reported.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is “fast becoming untenable,” U.N. relief head Martin Griffiths warned Saturday, adding that “the worst is yet to come.”
Here’s what to know:
*The Hamas attack killed at least 1,300 people in Israel and injured about 3,300, authorities said. Palestinian officials said 2,215 people in Gaza have been killed and more than 8,700 wounded in Israeli strikes.
*Israeli national security adviser Tzahi Hanegbi — the first government official to give a news briefing since the war began — said he “clearly made a mistake” in assessing before the war that “Hamas is deterred.”
*The United States is working with the governments of Israel, Egypt and Jordan, as well as with the United Nations, “to surge support to ease the humanitarian consequences of Hamas’s attack, create conditions needed to resume the flow of assistance, and advocate for the upholding of the law of war,” President Biden said Saturday.
*The World Health Organization said Israel’s directive to evacuate hospitals in northern Gaza was a “death sentence for the sick and injured,” and called on the country to reverse it. The Palestine Red Crescent Society has said it will continue to operate the al-Quds Hospital and Gaza’s emergency medical center.
Find tunnel networks. Fill tunnels with explosive gas mixtures. Detonate same from a safe distance (like a fuel air bomb), if activity in the tunnels does not set the mixture off. Lather, rinse, repeat...get Hamas above ground and deal with them. Deny them the labyrinths they have constructed.
I've read this strategy in other places. Would this mean saving hostages is no longer part of the plan?
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 15, 2023, 05:43:15 am
I've read this strategy in other places. Would this mean saving hostages is no longer part of the plan?
It would be wonderful if that could be done. But chances are most of the hostages are dead by now. At least denying Hamas the tunnels would mean they can't use them to get in the Israeli rear and put the entire effort in disarray. It would make it far more difficult for Hamas to do pop-up attacks, too. The alternative is to invade the tunnel system as well, where the home turf advantage is considerable, and if the Israelis get close to cornering Hamas there, the hostages will likely be executed anyway.
I suppose there is always that longshot chance they would try to bargain with them for their own lives, but these aren't normal people anyway, and a lifetime of imprisonment might pale compared to 72 virgins.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 05:47:27 am
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China: Israel’s actions in Gaza have gone ‘beyond the scope of self-defense’ Times of Israel, Oct 15, 2023
Israel’s actions in Gaza have gone “beyond the scope of self-defense” and the Israeli government must “cease its collective punishment of the people of Gaza,” China’s foreign minister Wang Yi says.
Wang, who made the comments on a call to his Saudi Arabian counterpart Prince Faisal bin Farhan on Saturday, said “all parties should not take any action to escalate the situation and should return to the negotiating table as soon as possible,” according to a foreign ministry readout.
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Post by: 240B on October 15, 2023, 05:52:20 am
Nobody on Earth should listen to China talking about 'restraint' or 'human rights'. China and its satellite North Korea are the most repressive genocidal governments in the world.
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Post by: Elderberry on October 15, 2023, 12:03:35 pm
Powerline Posted on October 15, 2023 by Scott Johnson in Hamas, Israel https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/10/live-from-tel-aviv-7.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/10/live-from-tel-aviv-7.php)
Live from Tel Aviv
IDF Lt. Colonel (reserve) Jonathan Conricus provides his eighth daily update on the status of the Hamas/Israel war a few hours ago. The video is below. In advance of the apparent ground incursion for which the IDF has massed at the border of the Gaza Strip, Hamas seeks to prevent the evacuation of Arab civilians. Hamas wants them in place so that they can star as casualties in the media. He cautiously breaks down one incident and urges that information emanating from Gaza be treated with skepticism.
A former Israeli general's rescue of his son's family from Hamas fighters attacking their kibbutz is being compared to Liam Neeson in "Taken" on social media.
Award-winning journalist Amir Tibon was at home in Nahal Oz, a kibbutz bordering Gaza, when Hamas attacked communities along the border on October 7.
As the sounds of gunfire came closer to the safe room Amir's family was sheltering, he rang his father, Noam Tibon, a 62-year-old retired major-general living in Tel Aviv.
On hearing the news, the grandfather, who spent his military career specializing in counter-terrorism, replied to his son: "Trust me, I will come.'" He knew that I would come. This is my profession, nobody can stop me," Noam told NBC Nightly News.
EXCERPT
And the terrorists didn't stop him...!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 12:58:12 pm
Fmr IDF special operator suggests delay in ground invasion due to new hostage intel
Former Israeli special operator Aaron Cohen says the delay of Israel's ground invasion may be due to new intelligence regarding the state of hostages taken by Hamas in Gaza.
Cohen appeared on Fox News on Sunday to offer analysis of the situation. Israel had previously said it delayed its invasion plans this weekend due to poor weather that threatened to obstruct the air force's ability to support ground troops, though Cohen suggested that may not be the full story.
"What we need is what Israel does best. They come together, they're creative. They've got the intestinal fortitude. They've got the experience, and right now thousands of phone calls are being listened to. You're about to see Israel [do] what it does best: rescue good people. So stand by," Cohen said.
Cohen went on to say that buying time to save hostages is a top priority for Israeli forces, and a phony delay of the invasion may have offered extra time. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 12:58:57 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:00:03 pm
Nearly 1,500 Muslim imams endorse 'fatwa' against Hamas following Israel attack
The Global Imam Council, which represents 1,470 Muslim Imams around the world condemned Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel and endorsed a "fatwa" against the terror organization.
The GIC, based in Najaf, Iraq, condemned Hamas' October 7 attack last week, declaring that it stands "with the Jewish people in their struggle against ISIS-like Islamist terrorism carried out by Hamas."
"The Global Imams Council (GIC), our members, and the 800+ communities led by our Imams worldwide, abide by the Fatwa issued against Hamas by The Islamic Fatwa Council on 9 March, 2023, charging Hamas with corruption and crimes against humanity; forbidding Muslims from supporting, donating to, joining or praying for the terrorist organization. The GIC is proud to have proposed the Fatwa against Hamas to The Islamic Fatwa Council, and contributed to its Resolution Document that outlines the Islamic legal charges against Hamas," the group wrote in a statement.
The GIC went on to condemn the "extremist and violent rhetoric" used by pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters in the U.S. and Europe.
Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets in the U.K. and Australia this weekend, with many shouting slogans in favor of killing Jewish people. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: Wingnut on October 15, 2023, 01:02:20 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:04:16 pm
Iran threatens intervention if Israeli operations in Gaza escalate, warns of ‘huge earthquake’ October 15, 2023 | Kevin Haggerty
Flexing influence throughout the region, an Iranian official threatened Israel with a “huge earthquake” if their “war criminals” didn’t back down on Gaza.
While Hamas had called for a global jihad on Friday, setting populations around the world on high alert, Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian had mobilized himself and met with leaders in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Speaking with reporters in the latter’s capital Beirut Saturday, the foreign official warned that Hezbollah could escalate the war if Israel didn’t back down.
“I know about the scenarios that Hezbollah has put in place. Any step the resistance (Hezbollah) will take will cause a huge earthquake in the Zionist entity,” Amirabdollahian expressed.
The message came after he had met with a top Hamas official, Saleh Arouri, and the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement, Ziad Nakhaleh, according to Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV. The Iranian foreign minister added, “I want to warn the war criminals and those who support this entity before it’s too late to stop the crimes against civilians in Gaza, because it might be too late in a few hours.”
more https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/10/15/iran-threatens-intervention-if-israeli-operations-in-gaza-escalate-warns-of-huge-earthquake-1404404/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:23:30 pm
Israeli Ambassador: Israel Is Creating 'Safe Zones' for Gaza Civilians Joshua Caplan
Appearing Saturday on the Fox News Channel, Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Herzog said Israel is creating “safe zones” for Gaza civilians in the southern part of the strip.
A partial transcript is as follows:
FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Secretary of State Blinken has been traveling the region and in Riyadh he said, “As Israel persues it’s legimate right to defend its people, it’s vitally important that all of us look out for civilians and we are working together to do exactly that.” What do you make of that statement?
AMBASSADOR MICHAEL HERZOG: The U.S. administration has supported Israel’s right to strike back at Hamas after the massacre and waging war against the state of Israel. At the same time, we understand the concerns from the U.S. We are doing everything possible so that civilians will not be hurt. They’re in a war zone and have become human shields. Hamas has made them into human shields. We are calling on them to leave the northern part of Gaza so they will not be hurt. Hamas is trying to force them to stay so they can use them as human shields.
We are in the process of preparing what we call safe zones in the southern part of Gaza for all of those who evacuated their homes. We are working very closely with the United Nations to create these safe zones. When they are in the safe zone, we will make sure they get all the vital supplies they need like water, food and medical support.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:25:32 pm
Blinken urges protection of civilians on both sides amid green light for ground incursion By AP 14 October 2023, 2:52 pm
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken calls for protection for civilians in both the Gaza Strip and Israel as the Israeli military ordered half of the Palestinian territory’s population to evacuate in advance of an expected ground assault.
Blinken met his Saudi Arabian counterpart, Prince Faisal bin Farhan, in Riyadh as he began a third day of intense Middle East diplomacy aimed at preventing the Israel-Hamas war from expanding into a regional conflict and fueling a humanitarian crisis.
Both stress the importance of minimizing the harm to civilians as Israel prepared for an anticipated incursion against Hamas a week after the militant group’s unprecedented assault on Israel.
“As Israel pursues its legitimate right, to defending its people and to trying to ensure that this never happens again, it is vitally important that all of us look out for civilians, and we’re working together to do exactly that,” Blinken says before heading to the United Arab Emirates for similar discussions.
“None of us want to see suffering by civilians on any side, whether it’s in Israel, whether it’s in Gaza, whether it’s anywhere else,” he says.
more https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/blinen-urges-protection-of-civilians-on-both-sides-amid-green-light-for-ground-incursion/
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 15, 2023, 01:27:39 pm
Makes perfect sense, since they're capable of putting an explosive down a chimney.
BTW...this morning was the 1st time actually seeing the contrail of the striking missile hitting a target. It must have been a chilly. happy77
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:37:28 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 2m White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said in a CNN interview on Sunday that Israeli officials have informed him that water pipes in southern Gaza have been turned back on.
The US needs to stay out of this..
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Post by: 240B on October 15, 2023, 01:37:57 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:38:08 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 15m White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Sunday that a new weapons package for Israel and Ukraine will be significantly higher than $2 billion.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:39:56 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1h Egypt's president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi is in talks with international and regional partners to enable aid deliveries into Gaza and to de-escalate the fighting there.
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The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1h US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will travel to Israel again on Monday after visiting the country five days ago.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 01:42:59 pm
Nearly 1,500 Muslim imams endorse 'fatwa' against Hamas following Israel attack
The Global Imam Council, which represents 1,470 Muslim Imams around the world condemned Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel and endorsed a "fatwa" against the terror organization.
The GIC, based in Najaf, Iraq, condemned Hamas' October 7 attack last week, declaring that it stands "with the Jewish people in their struggle against ISIS-like Islamist terrorism carried out by Hamas."
"The Global Imams Council (GIC), our members, and the 800+ communities led by our Imams worldwide, abide by the Fatwa issued against Hamas by The Islamic Fatwa Council on 9 March, 2023, charging Hamas with corruption and crimes against humanity; forbidding Muslims from supporting, donating to, joining or praying for the terrorist organization. The GIC is proud to have proposed the Fatwa against Hamas to The Islamic Fatwa Council, and contributed to its Resolution Document that outlines the Islamic legal charges against Hamas," the group wrote in a statement.
The GIC went on to condemn the "extremist and violent rhetoric" used by pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters in the U.S. and Europe.
Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets in the U.K. and Australia this weekend, with many shouting slogans in favor of killing Jewish people. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 02:15:11 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst ·
There’s an understanding on the ground that Israel/Gaza could just be the beginning. Look at the amount of American military assets headed this direction. The evacuation of U.S. citizens by sea. Iranian FM meeting with the leader of Hamas. Attacks from Hezbollah. Uncertain days.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 15, 2023, 02:17:22 pm
Find tunnel networks. Fill tunnels with explosive gas mixtures. Detonate same from a safe distance (like a fuel air bomb), if activity in the tunnels does not set the mixture off. Lather, rinse, repeat...get Hamas above ground and deal with them. Deny them the labyrinths they have constructed.
Saw a segment on how Hamas and Hezbollah, et al, learned from the North Vietnamese on how to conduct tunnel warfare.
Allied soldiers...skinny 120lb men would enter them armed with only a .45 pistol ...to check them out.
But they also stated that gassing and flooding the tunnels never worked because they constructed air-tight hatches into which they could escape out of danger or to the surface. Some were more than 100 feet below ground.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 15, 2023, 02:29:05 pm
But they also stated that gassing and flooding the tunnels never worked because they constructed air-tight hatches into which they could escape out of danger or to the surface. Some were more than 100 feet below ground.
Pump nitrogen or argon gas into them. They would never look at N2 levels. And they would slowly pass our from depleted oxygen.
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 15, 2023, 02:49:54 pm
Saw a segment on how Hamas and Hezbollah, et al, learned from the North Vietnamese on how to conduct tunnel warfare.
Allied soldiers...skinny 120lb men would enter them armed with only a .45 pistol ...to check them out.
But they also stated that gassing and flooding the tunnels never worked because they constructed air-tight hatches into which they could escape out of danger or to the surface. Some were more than 100 feet below ground.
Army vet SHOCKS Jesse with details of tunnel warfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZqYIiOcYTk
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 03:23:34 pm
Kirby: I Won’t Rule ‘In or Out’ if U.S. Troops Will Help Free American Hostages in Israel-Hamas War
National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on this week’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday” that he would not rule out U.S. troops being deployed on the ground to free hostages caught in the Israel-Hamas war.
Yep, I am guessing that there is going to be a shortage of virgins coming up. 72 each? But not to worry.... understand goats work fine for their carnal needs.
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Post by: LMAO on October 15, 2023, 03:54:28 pm
Rush Limbaugh used to say that the only way the Israeli/Palestinian conflict ends is when one side is wiped out by the other
I agreed with him then and I still agree with that statement. The likes of HAMAS and Hezbollah are not interested at all in any kind of peace with Israel
If Israel hopes to end these kind of attacks, they have to operate with a very heavy hand and be brutal. World opinion be damned.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:12:05 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:16:53 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Now that the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and her Carrier Strike Group are Enroute towards the Eastern Mediterranean, NATO will soon have a Massive Naval Armada in the Region this includes:
- 2 Aircraft Carriers USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)
- 2 Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers USS Normandy (CG-60) USS Philippines Sea (CG-58)
- 7 Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116) USS Ramage (DDG-61) USS Carney (DDG-64) USS Roosevelt (DDG-80) USS Laboon (DDG-58) USS Mason (DDG-87) USS Gravely (DDG-107)
- 1 Type-45 Air Defense Destroyer HMS Duncan (D-37)
- 5 Frigates ESPS Méndez Núñez (F-104) FS Surcouf (F-711) ITS Carlo Margottini (F-592) TCG Yavuz (F-240) HS Psara (F-454)
- 2 Landing Support Ships RFA Lyme Bay RFA Argus
As well as an untold number of Submarines, Supply Ships, Aircraft and other Surface Ships which may also enter or be ordered to the Eastern Mediterranean over the next week, in my opinion this is much more than just Posturing for an Israeli Invasion of Gaza. 10:03 AM · Oct 15, 2023 ·
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:17:58 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h Hezbollah has announced that they have Attacked at least 5 Israeli Military Outposts on the Lebanese Border with Heavy Machine Guns and other Weapons.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:18:52 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 18s The @IDF and @cogatonline claim: Hamas is preventing Gaza residents from evacuating for their safety.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:20:08 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post Health officials in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip have resorted to storing the bodies of Palestinians killed by Israeli air strikes in ice cream freezer trucks because moving them to hospitals is too risky and cemeteries are short of space.
Via REUTERS
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 04:21:05 pm
If Israel hopes to end these kind of attacks, they have to operate with a very heavy hand and be brutal. World opinion be damned.
Agree. This "hurry up and wait" approach is working against Israel ---- it's emboldening Lebanon and Hezbollah and shifting world opinion away from the right to defend to retaliation.
Israel's Achilles heel seems to be putting the PR war ahead of the military war ----- and they could end end up winning neither.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 15, 2023, 04:37:49 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Now that the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and her Carrier Strike Group are Enroute towards the Eastern Mediterranean, NATO will soon have a Massive Naval Armada in the Region this includes:
- 2 Aircraft Carriers USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)
- 2 Ticonderoga-Class Cruisers USS Normandy (CG-60) USS Philippines Sea (CG-58)
- 7 Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116) USS Ramage (DDG-61) USS Carney (DDG-64) USS Roosevelt (DDG-80) USS Laboon (DDG-58) USS Mason (DDG-87) USS Gravely (DDG-107)
- 1 Type-45 Air Defense Destroyer HMS Duncan (D-37)
- 5 Frigates ESPS Méndez Núñez (F-104) FS Surcouf (F-711) ITS Carlo Margottini (F-592) TCG Yavuz (F-240) HS Psara (F-454)
- 2 Landing Support Ships RFA Lyme Bay RFA Argus
As well as an untold number of Submarines, Supply Ships, Aircraft and other Surface Ships which may also enter or be ordered to the Eastern Mediterranean over the next week, in my opinion this is much more than just Posturing for an Israeli Invasion of Gaza. 10:03 AM · Oct 15, 2023
It's beginning to feel like Israel's waiting because they don't have the military to win this.
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 15, 2023, 04:58:37 pm
Either that or they sense that they're not just fighting Hezbollah/Hamas and want greater assets behind them as a deterrent.
Yeah! Like the U.N. and the United States Department of State for instance!
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Post by: rangerrebew on October 15, 2023, 05:08:33 pm
Israel: No Negotiations over Hostages; We Are Eliminating Hamas
JOEL B. POLLAK14 Oct 20231,131 2:15 The Israeli government said Saturday that it would not negotiate with the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas over the release of between 100 and 200 Israeli and international hostages, because it was destroying the organization and not trying to save it.
Tzachi Hanegbi, the head of Israel’s National Security Council, said that the days of negotiating for hostages were over. While Israel was trying to rescue the hostages, it would not hostage prisoner exchanges or stop its military operation in Gaza.
The Times of Israel reported:
National Security Council head Tzachi Hanegbi said on Saturday that there are no active negotiation efforts underway by Israel to repatriate the Israelis and some other foreign nationals kidnapped by Hamas last Saturday, saying “there is no way right now to have a negotiation” with the terror organization.
It's beginning to feel like Israel's waiting because they don't have the military to win this.
No, NATO and the U.S. Navy are sealing off Gaza from Iranian (and Turkish) seaborne reinforcement and resupply. The weather is bad for the next few days, limiting aerial surveillance targeting, so they're taking their time before going in.
Urban fighting is bad enough, so why make it even harder than necessary?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 05:22:52 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 26m Possible Terrorist Infiltration near the City of Zikim to the North of the Gaza Strip, Israeli Units are Enroute.
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 15, 2023, 05:23:57 pm
Yeah! Like the U.N. and the United States Department of State for instance!
Hopefully we can keep it to our military but I'm sure our leadership will find a way to FUBAR it, as is their intent I'm sure.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 05:24:03 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 28m The Explosion heard earlier in Central Israel was the result of a Rocket launched by Hamas falling into the Ocean off the Coast of Tel Aviv, this is also why No Red Alert was issued due to it not posing a Threat to the Civilian Population.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 05:24:27 pm
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Post by: rangerrebew on October 15, 2023, 05:35:23 pm
'These Animals Can No Longer Live': 95yo Israeli Army Reservist Incites Countrymen to Kill Palestinian Families And Children Chris Menahan
Oct. 15, 2023
Israel's oldest reservist, 95-year-old Ezra Yachin, was filmed inciting Israelis to kill Palestinian "families, mothers and children" and "erase the memory of them."
From The Middle East Eye, "Israel-Palestine war: Israeli veteran, 95, rallies troops to 'erase' Palestinian children": An Israeli army veteran who was involved in a 1948 massacre of Palestinian civilians has called on Israelis to "erase the memory of... families, mothers and children".
Ezra Yachin, 95, is one of more than 300,000 army reservists mobilised by Israel since war broke out with Hamas in Gaza a week ago.
Yachin won't be involved in combat but instead will serve to "motivate" soldiers, according to recent reports.
"Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave anyone behind. Erase the memory of them," Yachin said while addressing Israeli troops this week, in a video that has since gone viral.
"Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live."
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64045
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Post by: libertybele on October 15, 2023, 05:36:09 pm
Iran threatens Israel over looming ground offensive in Gaza: report
Iran’s foreign minister has warned that an Israeli ground offensive in Gaza would force Iran to intervene, likely expanding the war to other parts of the Middle East, according to a report.
Hossein Amirabdollahian made the comment during a meeting with United Nations envoy to the Middle East Tor Wennesland on Saturday in Beirut, Axios reported, citing two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation.
The sources told the outlet that Abdollahian said Iran doesn’t want the conflict to spill over to other parts of the region, but insisted that Iran will have to respond if the Israeli operation continues in Gaza.
An Israeli ground assault on Gaza was looming on Sunday after Hamas militants launched a surprise attack on Oct. 7 that killed 1,300 Israelis, most of them civilians, and took dozens of hostages back to Gaza. The Gaza Health Ministry said more than 2,300 Palestinians have been killed since the fighting erupted.................
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 07:03:28 pm
Report: Israeli Forensic Teams Detail Signs of Torture, Rape, Physical Abuse
Torture, rape, murder, and a host of other physical atrocities. These are just some of the gruesome details revealed by military forensic teams mobilised by Israel in the wake of last week’s Hamas terrorist attack on the Jewish state.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/15/report-israeli-forensic-teams-detail-signs-of-torture-rape-physical-abuse/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 07:05:12 pm
Kirby: I Won’t Rule ‘In or Out’ if U.S. Troops Will Help Free American Hostages in Israel-Hamas War
National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on this week’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday” that he would not rule out U.S. troops being deployed on the ground to free hostages caught in the Israel-Hamas war.
THIS is when the UN needs to step in,and announce,"Bring it,bitches,and we will wipe you off the face of the planet!"
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 07:12:30 pm
PM Netanyahu vows Israeli ground invasion will 'exterminate the bloody monsters' of Hamas
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says Israeli forces are ready to "exterminate the bloody monsters" of Hamas in a ground invasion of Gaza that now appears imminent.
Netanyahu made the comments during a meeting of his war cabinet on Sunday, saying the military stands ready to act at "any moment." Israel spent the weekend warning civilians in Gaza to move south as quickly as possible, as Israeli forces plan to invade northern Gaza by land, sea and air in the coming days.
"[We] are ready to act at any moment, to exterminate the bloody monsters that rose up against us," Netanyahu said. "Hamas thought we would be demolished. It is we who will demolish Hamas."
Among Israel's top targets is Hamas commander Yahya Sinwar, who is being held responsible for carrying out the unprecedented October 7 attack that left at least 1,400 people dead in Israel, including at least 29 Americans.
"He is the mastermind behind this, like bin Laden was. He built his career on murdering Palestinians when he understood they were collaborators. That's how he became known as the butcher of Khan Younis [in southern Gaza]," IDF spokesman Lt Col Richard Hecht said Sunday. "That man and his whole team are in our sights. We will get to that man," Posted by Anders Hagstrom Fox News
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 15, 2023, 07:15:56 pm
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Post by: Kamaji on October 15, 2023, 08:01:39 pm
All reporting from the AP on Israel and Gaza is suspect:
Associated Press Reporter Tasked With Covering Israel And Gaza Is A Longtime Anti-Israel Activist
BY: JORDAN BOYD OCTOBER 13, 2023
The Associated Press reporter tasked with covering Israel’s war on terrorists in the Gaza Strip has a long history of public anti-Israel activism that the wire service’s hiring department likely saw on his resume but ignored.
Mere weeks after Issam Adwan joined the AP newsroom as the outlet’s Gaza correspondent, Adwan became one of the outlet’s most prolific reporters on the chaos in the Middle East region. His coverage repeatedly buries or omits the atrocities committed against Israel last weekend in favor of elevating the plea of Gaza.
In an Oct. 8 article that other national outlets, including CBS, picked up, Adwan noted that “human rights groups have previously said that Israel’s pattern of deadly attacks on residential homes display a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians and argued they may amount to war crimes.”
In an Oct.11 article, Adwan complained that an “Unprecedented Israeli bombardment lays waste to upscale Rimal, the beating heart of Gaza City.”
His sanitized version of events did not mention that the precedent for the Israeli strike lay in Hamas’ recent decision to launch the deadliest assault on Jewish civilians since the Holocaust until nine paragraphs into the article.
During the attack, more than 1,300 Israelis and more than two dozen Americans were murdered. Babies and young children were reportedly beheaded, butchered, and burned in their beds. Some survivors were kidnapped back to Gaza, where Hamas is headquartered.
Adwan is no stranger to anti-Israel activism. Sprinkled among the articles lining his X page are revealing posts about his disdain for the Jewish nation.
In 2021, Adwan suggested it was “ignorant” to draw attention to Hamas’ crimes “when we talk about Israeli war crimes/apartheid/enthnic cleansing.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 08:34:24 pm
Israel-Hamas war rages as crisis deepens in Gaza
By Rhea Mogul, Andrew Raine, Joshua Berlinger, Peter Wilkinson, Maureen Chowdhury and Matt Meyer, CNN Updated 4:32 p.m. ET, October 15, 2023
Egypt willing to accept Americans from Gaza but Hamas stopping crossing, White House says
From CNN’s Nikki Carvajal and Jasmine Wright
Hamas has been stopping Americans from leaving Gaza through the Rafah crossing to Egypt, even though Cairo has agreed to let US citizens cross into the country, the White House said Sunday.
“We have told President Sisi to open the border to let Americans out,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “The situation there at the crossing is actually more complicated.”
Sullivan said while the Egyptians have agreed to allow Americans to depart to get safe passage through the Rafah crossing and the Israelis agreed, “to ensure that the area around there would be safe, at least as far as they were able to do so,” when a group tried to cross yesterday, it “was actually Hamas taking steps to try to stop that from happening.”
“But we are continuing to work this around the clock, and we are doing all that we can to make sure that American citizens who are in Gaza can get through that border crossing,” Sullivan said. He added US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was in Egypt Sunday to meet with the country’s president, and it was “at the top of his list to help get those American citizens out of Gaza.”
“Anyone who is a US citizen should have the right to free passage through there, and then have the US government facilitate their travel home,” he said.
more https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-15-23/h_fdc37cd8504a4b128bda6c4c09c93d43
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 08:38:27 pm
CNN’s Tapper to NSA Sullivan: Is Rescuing American Hostages Priority as Israel ‘Bombs the Crap out of’ Gaza?
Pam Key 15 Oct 2023
Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” anchor Jake Tapper asked National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan why it looked like nothing was being done to rescue Americans currently held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.
Partial transcript as follows:
TAPPER: Is rescuing the hostages a priority at all? I mean, Israeli news media, like “Haaretz,” they say it doesn’t seem like it at all. And frankly, Jake, if my kids were being held hostage in Gaza — and, as you know, there are Americans being held hostage in Gaza right now — I’d want you to send in the Navy SEALs. What’s the conversation like in the White House about the U.S. conducting any sort of operations in order to save Americans being held hostage in Gaza?
SULLIVAN: Well, the president has been very clear that he has no higher priority than getting Americans back safe, Americans who are being held hostage by Hamas in Gaza right now.
TAPPER: The Israelis are bombing the crap out of Gaza.
(CROSSTALK)
TAPPER: I mean, what — it doesn’t seem like saving the hostages are a priority at all right now.
SULLIVAN: Well, for President Biden, they are a priority. They’re the highest possible priority.
And he has sent hostage experts to coordinate and consult with the Israeli government on hostage recovery efforts. He’s also made sure that our diplomats are in touch with third countries in the region to explore avenues for their safe release.
I have to be cautious about how much I can say about certain efforts he’s undertaking, because we want to protect those efforts to give us the best possible chance of getting our people home.
Now, Jake, one important point when it comes to the issue of the Navy SEALs is, we do not at this point have pinpoint location information for where the American hostages are. So, we have to continue to refine our understanding of where they are and even, Jake, who they are, because we know there are 15 unaccounted-for Americans, but we cannot confirm the precise number of American hostages being held by Hamas at this time.
All we can do is to continue to work closely with the Israeli government on hostage recovery options, which we are doing, and then work through third countries to see if there are avenues for release. Those efforts are under way. Our hope is that they can produce results. We will continue to stay focused on this.
It’s as high a priority as the president has.
TAPPER: One senior political operative with Hamas floated the possibility a few days ago of a potential prisoner swap with the U.S. for the release of hostages.
Would the U.S. entertain that?
SULLIVAN: We have not looked at that. We have not heard from them something like that. That’s not something that is currently under active discussion. It has not been proposed.
What we are focused on instead, as I said before, are pursuing avenues with third countries for release. I’m not going to get into the details of what that might look like, again, to protect those channels, in hopes that they can bear some fruit.
But I will say that President Biden has shown over the course of the past few years that he will make hard decisions to get American hostages home. In this case, our focus is on working through those third-country channels, and I will leave it at that for now.
TAPPER: So I think there are serious reasons to question how good any intelligence about what is in Gaza is. I mean, obviously, Hamas was able to carry out this horrific attack eight days ago, catching everybody completely off guard.
You just said that we don’t know where the hostages are in Gaza. And yet the Israelis claim, the IDF claims that it is bombing places that it knows are Hamas targets. How can we be sure that that’s true?
I mean, Hamas is a terrorist group, don’t get me wrong, but how do we know anything about what they’re hitting, given the fact that it doesn’t sound like any of the intelligence inside Gaza is particularly good?
SULLIVAN: Well, Jake, Israel has known where particular parts of Hamas’ terrorist infrastructure have been located. They know, for example, where rockets are fired from, and they can go back to those locations to take out the rocket emplacements.
They know from various forms of intelligence collection where certain individuals are located who are senior commanders in Hamas who are part of the bloody and barbaric attacks that took place against Israel last Saturday.
So, they do have information to be able to go after specific targets, actionable targets, similar to the way the United States has been able to do that in other places in other contexts.
The United States has taken a very clear stand. It is a stand that we don’t just take in this situation, but we have taken all along, which is that we stand for the rule of law, we stand for the law of war, we stand for the protection of civilians, and we want to make sure that innocent Palestinians who have nothing to do with Hamas can get to safe areas, where they will be safe from bombardment and where they will have access to necessities like food, water, shelter and medicine.
more https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/15/cnns-tapper-to-nsa-sullivan-is-rescuing-american-hostages-priority-as-israel-bombs-the-crap-out-of-gaza/
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 08:42:32 pm
Gaza resident says Hamas confiscated car keys, ID to prevent evacuation amid Israeli warnings
A Gaza resident described Hamas terrorst confiscating car keys and IDs in order to prevent Gazans from heeding Israeli warnings to evacuate toward the South, according to a phone call recording released by Israeli forces.
The Israeli Defence Force revealed the recording Sunday, saying it was a conversation between a Gaza resident and an Israeli intelligence officer.
"In the conversation, the resident tells the officer that Hamas confiscated people's personal belongings including their car keys and IDs to prevent them from heading south for safety as they were instructed by the IDF," Israel wrote in a statement.
"This is further evidence that the Hamas terrorist organization is actively preventing Palestinians from evacuating south in order to protect themselves," it added.
Israeli forces had urged civilians in Gaza to flee the northern region as the IDF prepares for a ground invasion against Hamas. Israel had previously shown Hamas roadblocks, which it said prevented civilians from leaving.
Hamas has long used innocents as human shields, and frequently places its weapon caches and command centers in or around places like hospitals, schools and mosques. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: Bigun on October 15, 2023, 08:43:51 pm
All reporting from the AP on Israel and Gaza is suspect:
Associated Press Reporter Tasked With Covering Israel And Gaza Is A Longtime Anti-Israel Activist
BY: JORDAN BOYD OCTOBER 13, 2023
The Associated Press reporter tasked with covering Israel’s war on terrorists in the Gaza Strip has a long history of public anti-Israel activism that the wire service’s hiring department likely saw on his resume but ignored.
Mere weeks after Issam Adwan joined the AP newsroom as the outlet’s Gaza correspondent, Adwan became one of the outlet’s most prolific reporters on the chaos in the Middle East region. His coverage repeatedly buries or omits the atrocities committed against Israel last weekend in favor of elevating the plea of Gaza.
In an Oct. 8 article that other national outlets, including CBS, picked up, Adwan noted that “human rights groups have previously said that Israel’s pattern of deadly attacks on residential homes display a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians and argued they may amount to war crimes.”
In an Oct.11 article, Adwan complained that an “Unprecedented Israeli bombardment lays waste to upscale Rimal, the beating heart of Gaza City.”
His sanitized version of events did not mention that the precedent for the Israeli strike lay in Hamas’ recent decision to launch the deadliest assault on Jewish civilians since the Holocaust until nine paragraphs into the article.
During the attack, more than 1,300 Israelis and more than two dozen Americans were murdered. Babies and young children were reportedly beheaded, butchered, and burned in their beds. Some survivors were kidnapped back to Gaza, where Hamas is headquartered.
Adwan is no stranger to anti-Israel activism. Sprinkled among the articles lining his X page are revealing posts about his disdain for the Jewish nation.
In 2021, Adwan suggested it was “ignorant” to draw attention to Hamas’ crimes “when we talk about Israeli war crimes/apartheid/enthnic cleansing.”
CNN’s Tapper to NSA Sullivan: Is Rescuing American Hostages Priority as Israel ‘Bombs the Crap out of’ Gaza?
Pam Key 15 Oct 2023
Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” anchor Jake Tapper asked National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan why it looked like nothing was being done to rescue Americans currently held hostage by Hamas in Gaza.
Partial transcript as follows:
TAPPER: Is rescuing the hostages a priority at all? I mean, Israeli news media, like “Haaretz,” they say it doesn’t seem like it at all. And frankly, Jake, if my kids were being held hostage in Gaza — and, as you know, there are Americans being held hostage in Gaza right now — I’d want you to send in the Navy SEALs. What’s the conversation like in the White House about the U.S. conducting any sort of operations in order to save Americans being held hostage in Gaza?
SULLIVAN: Well, the president has been very clear that he has no higher priority than getting Americans back safe, Americans who are being held hostage by Hamas in Gaza right now.
TAPPER: The Israelis are bombing the crap out of Gaza.
(CROSSTALK)
TAPPER: I mean, what — it doesn’t seem like saving the hostages are a priority at all right now.
SULLIVAN: Well, for President Biden, they are a priority. They’re the highest possible priority.
And he has sent hostage experts to coordinate and consult with the Israeli government on hostage recovery efforts. He’s also made sure that our diplomats are in touch with third countries in the region to explore avenues for their safe release.
I have to be cautious about how much I can say about certain efforts he’s undertaking, because we want to protect those efforts to give us the best possible chance of getting our people home.
Now, Jake, one important point when it comes to the issue of the Navy SEALs is, we do not at this point have pinpoint location information for where the American hostages are. So, we have to continue to refine our understanding of where they are and even, Jake, who they are, because we know there are 15 unaccounted-for Americans, but we cannot confirm the precise number of American hostages being held by Hamas at this time.
All we can do is to continue to work closely with the Israeli government on hostage recovery options, which we are doing, and then work through third countries to see if there are avenues for release. Those efforts are under way. Our hope is that they can produce results. We will continue to stay focused on this.
It’s as high a priority as the president has.
TAPPER: One senior political operative with Hamas floated the possibility a few days ago of a potential prisoner swap with the U.S. for the release of hostages.
Would the U.S. entertain that?
SULLIVAN: We have not looked at that. We have not heard from them something like that. That’s not something that is currently under active discussion. It has not been proposed.
What we are focused on instead, as I said before, are pursuing avenues with third countries for release. I’m not going to get into the details of what that might look like, again, to protect those channels, in hopes that they can bear some fruit.
But I will say that President Biden has shown over the course of the past few years that he will make hard decisions to get American hostages home. In this case, our focus is on working through those third-country channels, and I will leave it at that for now.
TAPPER: So I think there are serious reasons to question how good any intelligence about what is in Gaza is. I mean, obviously, Hamas was able to carry out this horrific attack eight days ago, catching everybody completely off guard.
You just said that we don’t know where the hostages are in Gaza. And yet the Israelis claim, the IDF claims that it is bombing places that it knows are Hamas targets. How can we be sure that that’s true?
I mean, Hamas is a terrorist group, don’t get me wrong, but how do we know anything about what they’re hitting, given the fact that it doesn’t sound like any of the intelligence inside Gaza is particularly good?
SULLIVAN: Well, Jake, Israel has known where particular parts of Hamas’ terrorist infrastructure have been located. They know, for example, where rockets are fired from, and they can go back to those locations to take out the rocket emplacements.
They know from various forms of intelligence collection where certain individuals are located who are senior commanders in Hamas who are part of the bloody and barbaric attacks that took place against Israel last Saturday.
So, they do have information to be able to go after specific targets, actionable targets, similar to the way the United States has been able to do that in other places in other contexts.
The United States has taken a very clear stand. It is a stand that we don’t just take in this situation, but we have taken all along, which is that we stand for the rule of law, we stand for the law of war, we stand for the protection of civilians, and we want to make sure that innocent Palestinians who have nothing to do with Hamas can get to safe areas, where they will be safe from bombardment and where they will have access to necessities like food, water, shelter and medicine.
more https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/15/cnns-tapper-to-nsa-sullivan-is-rescuing-american-hostages-priority-as-israel-bombs-the-crap-out-of-gaza/
Americans a priority for Brandon? Sorry, but I'd say that's a bold-faced lie.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 15, 2023, 08:48:08 pm
LMAO: "I agreed with him then and I still agree with that statement. The likes of HAMAS and Hezbollah are not interested at all in any kind of peace with Israel If Israel hopes to end these kind of attacks, they have to operate with a very heavy hand and be brutal. World opinion be damned."
Agreed. But what happens AFTER the military actions are finished will be more important.
The Israelis cannot let Gaza go back to "self-government". The first thing the palis do will be to vote hamas back in as their rulers.
Instead, Gaza will have to be (again?) governed by Israel, perhaps with a military governor. And the "police" there will have to be vetted by Israelis -- if that will do any good. In all likelihood, they'll be pro-hamas anyway.
Don't for a moment believe that this will be "the end of hamas". Not a chance.
Even if the Israelis kill every hamas terrorist of fighting age, a new crop will spring forth from the land as the Jew-hating youths reach maturity and reform hamas in the hopes of launching another attack on the Israelis.
This thorn will fester as long as there are palis breathing oxygen in Gaza.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 15, 2023, 08:55:41 pm
LMAO: "I agreed with him then and I still agree with that statement. The likes of HAMAS and Hezbollah are not interested at all in any kind of peace with Israel If Israel hopes to end these kind of attacks, they have to operate with a very heavy hand and be brutal. World opinion be damned."
Agreed. But what happens AFTER the military actions are finished will be more important.
The Israelis cannot let Gaza go back to "self-government". The first thing the palis do will be to vote hamas back in as their rulers.
Instead, Gaza will have to be (again?) governed by Israel, perhaps with a military governor. And the "police" there will have to be vetted by Israelis -- if that will do any good. In all likelihood, they'll be pro-hamas anyway.
Don't for a moment believe that this will be "the end of hamas". Not a chance.
Even if the Israelis kill every hamas terrorist of fighting age, a new crop will spring forth from the land as the Jew-hating youths reach maturity and reform hamas in the hopes of launching another attack on the Israelis.
This thorn will fester as long as there are palis breathing oxygen in Gaza.
We ALL want and maybe even need,to think that there is a rational solution to all problems,but this just isn't true because there are almost always irrational people involved in the decision making.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DB on October 15, 2023, 10:22:13 pm
This seems unusual:
Nearly 1,500 Muslim imams endorse 'fatwa' against Hamas following Israel attack The Global Imam Council, which represents 1,470 Muslim Imams around the world condemned Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel and endorsed a "fatwa" against the terror organization.
The GIC, based in Najaf, Iraq, condemned Hamas' October 7 attack last week, declaring that it stands "with the Jewish people in their struggle against ISIS-like Islamist terrorism carried out by Hamas."
"The Global Imams Council (GIC), our members, and the 800+ communities led by our Imams worldwide, abide by the Fatwa issued against Hamas by The Islamic Fatwa Council on 9 March, 2023, charging Hamas with corruption and crimes against humanity; forbidding Muslims from supporting, donating to, joining or praying for the terrorist organization. The GIC is proud to have proposed the Fatwa against Hamas to The Islamic Fatwa Council, and contributed to its Resolution Document that outlines the Islamic legal charges against Hamas," the group wrote in a statement.
The GIC went on to condemn the "extremist and violent rhetoric" used by pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters in the U.S. and Europe.
Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets in the U.K. and Australia this weekend, with many shouting slogans in favor of killing Jewish people.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 59s Multiple Israeli Airstrikes reported just now near Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City in the North of the Strip.
Moving the Hamas weapons stored in the hospital
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 10:48:34 pm
Israel war: US to evacuate stranded Americans by sea as conflict escalates Emily Jacobs
October 15, 2023 09:41 AM
The United States Embassy in Israel will evacuate Americans by sea on Monday morning as civilians try to reach safety after last weekend’s unprecedented terrorist attack ignited war in the region.
The embassy announced the move in a security alert posted to its website Sunday morning, which stated that Americans and immediate family members “with a valid travel document” could board the Cyprus-bound boat at the Israeli port city of Haifa. The journey to Limassol Port is expected to take 10 to 12 hours, according to the alert.
“Boarding will proceed in order of arrival and is on a space-limited basis,” the embassy said early Sunday.
Individuals will be responsible for arranging their own travel to Haifa, as well as accommodations and onward travel from Cyprus.
The White House and U.S. State Department announced on Friday that it had begun chartering flights to Athens and Frankfurt as part of a larger effort to “facilitate the safe departure of thousands of U.S. citizens” from Israel.
At least 3,600 people and 29 Americans have died since the conflict erupted last Saturday.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 15, 2023, 10:49:40 pm
Bill Gates is majority owner of the Four Seasons
Just remember Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh lives in luxury in Doha, Qatar Four Seasons Hotel, flies luxury private jets & enjoys the financial support of Islamic Republic of Iran, Qatar & Turkey. https://twitter.com/EllieCohanim/status/1713530773305749794
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 15, 2023, 10:51:22 pm
Omri Ceren @omriceren An Iranian terrorist group just massacred 30 Americans. Pretend Saturday didn't happen in Israel. Pretend it was an attack on 30 American tourists in some foreign city.
It would be the 5th worst terrorist attack on US civilians in a century.
What is Team Biden doing to respond? 5:44 PM · Oct 15, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 15, 2023, 10:52:05 pm
Nearly 1,500 Muslim imams endorse 'fatwa' against Hamas following Israel attack The Global Imam Council, which represents 1,470 Muslim Imams around the world condemned Hamas' terrorist attack on Israel and endorsed a "fatwa" against the terror organization.
The GIC, based in Najaf, Iraq, condemned Hamas' October 7 attack last week, declaring that it stands "with the Jewish people in their struggle against ISIS-like Islamist terrorism carried out by Hamas."
"The Global Imams Council (GIC), our members, and the 800+ communities led by our Imams worldwide, abide by the Fatwa issued against Hamas by The Islamic Fatwa Council on 9 March, 2023, charging Hamas with corruption and crimes against humanity; forbidding Muslims from supporting, donating to, joining or praying for the terrorist organization. The GIC is proud to have proposed the Fatwa against Hamas to The Islamic Fatwa Council, and contributed to its Resolution Document that outlines the Islamic legal charges against Hamas," the group wrote in a statement.
The GIC went on to condemn the "extremist and violent rhetoric" used by pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas protesters in the U.S. and Europe.
Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets in the U.K. and Australia this weekend, with many shouting slogans in favor of killing Jewish people.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · Follow The President of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas stated today during a Phone Call with U.S. President Biden that the Actions of Hamas do not Represent the Palestinian People and that he Condemns their recent Attack on Southern Israel.
Hamas IS the Palestinian government in Gaza. Nice try though.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: MajorClay on October 15, 2023, 11:42:43 pm
Omri Ceren @omriceren An Iranian terrorist group just massacred 30 Americans. Pretend Saturday didn't happen in Israel. Pretend it was an attack on 30 American tourists in some foreign city.
It would be the 5th worst terrorist attack on US civilians in a century.
What is Team Biden doing to respond? 5:44 PM · Oct 15, 2023
What is team Biden doing? Charging Americans for their Travel
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 11:50:16 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 3m Tons of Flares in the Sky over Northern Gaza.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 8m Over 20 Airstrikes have reportedly occurred in and around Gaza City within the last hour.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 14m Several Large Explosions just heard in Gaza City.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 15, 2023, 11:50:35 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 30m The President of the United States, Joe Biden said tonight during an Interview on the War in Israel that Hamas must be Eliminated.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 16, 2023, 12:02:02 am
Israel war: US to evacuate stranded Americans by sea as conflict escalates Emily Jacobs
October 15, 2023 09:41 AM
The United States Embassy in Israel will evacuate Americans by sea on Monday morning as civilians try to reach safety after last weekend’s unprecedented terrorist attack ignited war in the region.
The embassy announced the move in a security alert posted to its website Sunday morning, which stated that Americans and immediate family members “with a valid travel document” could board the Cyprus-bound boat at the Israeli port city of Haifa. The journey to Limassol Port is expected to take 10 to 12 hours, according to the alert.
“Boarding will proceed in order of arrival and is on a space-limited basis,” the embassy said early Sunday.
Individuals will be responsible for arranging their own travel to Haifa, as well as accommodations and onward travel from Cyprus.
The White House and U.S. State Department announced on Friday that it had begun chartering flights to Athens and Frankfurt as part of a larger effort to “facilitate the safe departure of thousands of U.S. citizens” from Israel.
At least 3,600 people and 29 Americans have died since the conflict erupted last Saturday.
This is likely to be the mother of all clusterf*cks.
:yowsa:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 12:54:07 am
Apex 🎃 @Apex_WW · 1h Senior administration official says President Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days, although travel has not been finalized. - AP
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 12:56:38 am
Apex 🎃 @Apex_WW · 1h Senior administration official says President Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days, although travel has not been finalized. - AP
Hopefully he'll make an extended trip; after all, they'll need his savvy advice. *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Wingnut on October 16, 2023, 01:01:36 am
Yep..I really don't expect an answer...I feel so sorry for these people enduring this tragedy and then dealing with the worst Administration this country has ever seen.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:10:02 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 30m The President of the United States, Joe Biden said tonight during an Interview on the War in Israel that Hamas must be Eliminated.
How long before he or his cabinet issue a "clarification"
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 16, 2023, 02:15:01 am
Why don't they fly them out like other countries are...
Here's a thought why don't all these friggin Gaia worshipping billionaires and millionaire celebrities that fly their private jets everywhere to protest fly in to Israel and bring the Americans home. You want to know why? Because they are afraid to upset the moslems!
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 16, 2023, 02:19:11 am
There should be trackers in everything because sure as hell everything sent as humanitarian will end up with the Hamas terrorists and not the Palestinian people. One more way to target.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: GtHawk on October 16, 2023, 02:21:17 am
Apex 🎃 @Apex_WW · 1h Senior administration official says President Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days, although travel has not been finalized. - AP
Biden should take The Cackler and all his cabinet members.........would it be a terrible thing if terrorists somehow got the travel info?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Idiot on October 16, 2023, 02:32:13 am
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 16, 2023, 04:05:37 am
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The Spectator Index @spectatorindex
BREAKING: 5-hour ceasefire to allow foreigners to exit and humanitarian aid to enter Gaza via Egypt border
11:12 PM · Oct 15, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 16, 2023, 12:56:59 pm
Dramatic video shows Israeli navy unit shooting Hamas terrorists at sea
By Yaron Steinbuch Published Oct. 16, 2023
Newly released video shows the moment members of an Israeli navy unit gunned down Hamas terrorists trying to infiltrate the country by sea on the morning of the attack.
The dramatic footage captured sailors from the Snapir unit aboard Defender-class vessels firing machine guns and lobbing depth charges on the terrorists after their speedboats were sunk by Dvora-class patrol boats, The Times of Israel reported.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the terrorists tried to swim toward the Israeli coast.
“Snapir fighters opened fire on the terrorists, amid a naval pursuit. The fighters thwarted a number of terrorists at sea, and from there they continued to thwart terrorists when they reached the coastline,” the IDF said.
Snapir is a harbor security unit that is part of the patrol squadrons stationed at the Navy’s bases in nearby Ashdod, Haifa in the north and Eilat in the south, the outlet noted.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 16, 2023, 12:59:44 pm
IDF releases video of Hamas gunman storming Israeli homes before he’s taken out
By Allie Griffin Published Oct. 15, 2023
The Israel Defense Forces released footage from the perspective of a Hamas gunman who crossed the border into Israel and shot up homes of innocent civilians before he was taken out by Israeli security forces.
The IDF posted the three-minute clip — which appears to have been filmed by the militant’s body-worn camera — to X on Sunday along with a trigger warning.
“RAW FOOTAGE: Hamas jihadists squad invasion and killing spree of an innocent Israeli community,” the Israeli military captioned the video. “The filmed terrorist was neutralized by Israeli security forces.”
The footage shows heavily armed Hamas terrorists riding on motorized bikes through a cut opening in the border fence separating Gaza and southern Israel.
The militants fire guns as they pass by a security booth, which has a gunshot hole in its window, and then enter a neighborhood where they fire into civilians’ homes, according to the clip.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:10:12 pm
Report: Joe Biden Turns Down Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s Invite
President Joe Biden reportedly turned down Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s invite for a “solidarity visit” following the horrific terrorist attacks at the hands of Hamas. Paul Bois15 Oct 2023, 8:25 PM PDT340
I bet he is going..he cancelled his trip to Co saying he needs to stay in DC to monitor the war...since when does he stay in DC..
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:10:56 pm
Reports: Hamas Kills Palestinian Civilians Trying to Flee; Won’t Let Americans Leave
Reports are emerging that the Hamas terrorist group is preventing civilians from evacuating northern Gaza, killing innocent Palestinians who try to leave, and preventing American citizens from using the Rafah border crossing to escape to Egypt.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:32:00 pm
Iran says Hamas ready to release hostages if Israel stops air strikes as at least 199 now known taken By Isabel Keane Published Oct. 16, 2023, 8:52 a.m. ET
Iran’s Foreign Ministry claimed Monday that Hamas was ready to release its hostages if Israel ceases its airstrikes along the Gaza Strip — as the number known to have been taken by the terrorist group rose to at least 199.
Hamas officials are “ready” to release hostages, but doing so would be “impossible” under Israeli airstrikes in the region, Iranian Foreign Ministry Nasser Kanaani relayed at a news conference in Tehran.
The terror group “stated that they are ready to take necessary measures to release the citizens and civilians held by resistant groups, but their point was that such measures require preparations that are impossible under daily bombardment by the Zionists against various parts of Gaza,” Kanaani said.
It came as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) on Monday confirmed that at least 199 hostages are known to be held in Gaza, a number much greater than previously believed.
Military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said families have been notified. He did not say how many held captive were foreigners, or who was holding them, though most are believed to be held by Hamas, which rules Gaza.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/iran-says-hamas-will-free-hostages-if-air-strikes-end/
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:33:50 pm
Israeli government distributes thousands of rifles to citizens near Gaza, Lebanon borders
The Israeli government is distributing roughly 10,000 rifles to Israeli citizens living in towns near its northern and southern borders, officials announced Monday.
Israeli Minister of National Security Itamar Ben-Gvir purchased the rifles early last week and has expedited the process for "hundreds of thousands" of Israelis to be approved to carry firearms.
"I call on everyone who is eligible [to get] a life-saving weapon," he said in a statement on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.
The 10,000 rifles are being distributed to civilian security teams, some of which were able to fight off Hamas terrorists last week using only pistols. Members of at least one team told the Times of Israel that the Israeli Defense Forces had taken their rifles sometime prior to the Hamas assault. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:35:07 pm
Lebanese military targets 20 Hezbollah rocket sites: Report
The Lebanese military has destroyed 20 different rocket launching sites that Hezbollah was using to attack Israel from Southern Lebanon, accoridng to Lebanese media.
Hezbollah, a powerful Iran-backed terrorist group, has threatened to join Hamas in the war against Israel. The group has launched anti-tank guided missiles over the Lebanon-Israel border in recent days, leading to Israeli reprisals.
The reported attacks on Hezbollah rocket positions indicate that there is disagreement in Lebanon regarding whether to challenge Israel.
The news comes as Hezbollah began destroying surveillance cameras on several Israeli army posts along the border on Monday.
Hezbollah’s military media arm released a video showing snipers destroying surveillance cameras placed on five points along the Lebanon-Israel border, including one outside the Israeli town of Metula. Hezbollah’s aim appears to be to prevent the Israeli army from monitoring movements on the Lebanese side of the border.
The Associated Press contributed to this report. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:35:51 pm
Catholic Patriarch in Jerusalem offers to be exchanged for Israeli children held hostage in Gaza
Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, offered to exchange himself for Israeli children taken hostage by Hamas in Gaza on Monday.
Pizzaballa, who represents Pope Francis in the Holy Land, made the offer in a video conference with Italian journalists on Monday.
"I am ready for an exchange, anything, if this can lead to freedom, to bring the children home....The first thing to do is to try to win the release of the hostages, otherwise there will be no way of stopping [an escalation]." Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:40:41 pm
IDF releases video of Hamas gunman storming Israeli homes before he’s taken out By Allie Griffin Published Oct. 15, 2023, 8:51 p.m. ET
WARNING: Graphic Content
The Israel Defense Forces released footage from the perspective of a Hamas gunman who crossed the border into Israel and shot up homes of innocent civilians before he was taken out by Israeli security forces.
The IDF posted the three-minute clip — which appears to have been filmed by the militant’s body-worn camera — to X on Sunday along with a trigger warning.
“RAW FOOTAGE: Hamas jihadists squad invasion and killing spree of an innocent Israeli community,” the Israeli military captioned the video. “The filmed terrorist was neutralized by Israeli security forces.”
The footage shows heavily armed Hamas terrorists riding on motorized bikes through an opening cut in the border fence separating Gaza and southern Israel.
The militants fire guns as they pass by a security booth, which has a gunshot hole in its window, and then enter a neighborhood where they fire into civilians’ homes, according to the clip.
The gunman who is filming the attack shoots at a shadowy figure moving inside a home through the building’s screen door and then blasts a bullet through the tire of a parked ambulance, the edited video shows.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/15/video-shows-hamas-gunman-storming-israeli-homes-before-hes-taken-out/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 01:49:31 pm
Israeli forensic teams find signs of torture, rape, mutilation on bodies of 1,300 murdered by Hamas By Alex Oliveira
Israeli forensic teams working to identify the bodies of more than 1,300 people murdered by Hamas since last week's sneak attack said they've found widespread signs of abuse ranging from physical torture, to rape and mutilation, military officials confirmed.
"We've seen dismembered bodies with their arms and feet chopped off, people that were beheaded, a child that was beheaded," a reserve officer told reporters Saturday, according to Reuters.
She added that numerous victims showed signs of rape.
"We see them in severe stages of abuse. We see gunshots and we see signs that are purely torture," a military dentist working on the identification, Captain Mayaan, said.
The bodies of Hamas' victims have been brought to an army base in Ramla, in central Israel, where specialists set to work identifying them and determining causes of death.
Nearly 90% of the military dead brought to the base have been identified so far, and about half of the civilian casualties have been named, according to Rabbi Israel Weiss, an official overseeing the process.
Hamas has denied carrying out any abuses against the victims of its attack, despite considerable photographic evidence and accounts emerging in the past week.
The latest figures estimate about 1,400 Israelis have been killed in the conflict, according to CNN. At least 2,670 Palestinians have been killed in retaliatory strikes on Gaza.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 02:23:48 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 24m All Israeli Residents within 2km of the Border with Lebanon have been ordered to take Shelter and Lock all Doors and Windows.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 25m Explosion are being reported along the Lebanese Border and Israeli Artillery is claimed to be Actively Shelling a number of Targets across the Border in Southern Lebanon.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 02:23:56 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 02:32:18 pm
Forensic Evidence of Hamas Executions, Torture, Looting in Attack on Israel
Joel B. Pollak 16 Oct 2023
Forensic evidence continues to emerge showing the extent of the atrocities committed by the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas against both civilians and soldiers during its massive Oct. 7 terror attack, as Israel struggled to mobilize a response.
Many Hamas terrorists who were later killed wore GoPro cameras during their assault, which are enabling investigators to understand not only what they did to Israelis during their invasion, but also where they came from, and with whom, in Gaza.
In a series of chilling videos released on Telegram by the South First Responders group, which will not be reproduced here, Hamas terrorists are shown executing civilians in the streets and in kibbutzim (collective farms). In one video, Hamas terrorists enter a room, apparently on an Israeli military base, and execute female draftees, evidently unarmed, who are hiding underneath tables. They ignore the terrified screams of the young women as they fire shot after shot, killing them in cold blood.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/16/forensic-evidence-of-hamas-executions-torture-looting-in-attack-on-israel/
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Post by: libertybele on October 16, 2023, 03:55:17 pm
Catholic Patriarch in Jerusalem offers to be exchanged for Israeli children held hostage in Gaza
Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, offered to exchange himself for Israeli children taken hostage by Hamas in Gaza on Monday.
Pizzaballa, who represents Pope Francis in the Holy Land, made the offer in a video conference with Italian journalists on Monday.
"I am ready for an exchange, anything, if this can lead to freedom, to bring the children home....The first thing to do is to try to win the release of the hostages, otherwise there will be no way of stopping [an escalation]." Posted by Anders Hagstrom
God bless him.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 16, 2023, 04:02:33 pm
Catholic Patriarch in Jerusalem offers to be exchanged for Israeli children held hostage in Gaza
Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, offered to exchange himself for Israeli children taken hostage by Hamas in Gaza on Monday.
Pizzaballa, who represents Pope Francis in the Holy Land, made the offer in a video conference with Italian journalists on Monday.
John 15:13
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Post by: Hoodat on October 16, 2023, 04:25:19 pm
Report: Joe Biden Turns Down Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu’s Invite
President Joe Biden reportedly turned down Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s invite for a “solidarity visit”
By refusing a visit, he is siding with Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 04:32:23 pm
Iran says Hamas ready to release hostages if Israel stops airstrikes as at least 199 now known taken By Isabel Keane Published Oct. 16, 2023, 8:52 a.m. ET
Iran tried to pressure Israel into ending its revenge airstrikes on Gaza by claiming Monday that the Hamas terrorists long sponsored by Tehran would be willing to free the 199 hostages now known to have been taken during the slaughter of more than 1,400 people.
Iranian Foreign Ministry Nasser Kanaani claimed that Hamas is “ready” to release the hostages, but doing so would be “impossible” under Israeli airstrikes in the region.
He reckoned that the terror group “stated that they are ready to take necessary measures to release the citizens and civilians held by resistant groups, but their point was that such measures require preparations that are impossible under daily bombardment by the Zionists against various parts of Gaza,” Kanaani said.
Despite this, Hamas has yet to make such an offer publicly.
The terror group did, however, speak out Monday to maintain that its unprecedented Oct. 7 attack was a solo effort not driven by Iran, despite widespread belief among Israeli and Western officials.
more https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/iran-says-hamas-will-free-hostages-if-air-strikes-end/
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 16, 2023, 04:38:35 pm
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Iran says Hamas ready to release hostages if Israel stops airstrikes as at least 199 now known taken
That should be a hard, "Oh, Hell no!"
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Post by: Hoodat on October 16, 2023, 04:59:39 pm
Iran says Hamas ready to release hostages if Israel stops airstrikes as at least 199 now known taken
Iran says!?
But ... but ... Iran says they have nothing to do with what is happening in Gaza. Is Iran now admitting that they are in control of the hostages? Are the hostages in Iran?
If Iran has the ability to 'release the hostages', then shouldn't we be attacking Iran instead?
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Post by: Fishrrman on October 16, 2023, 05:28:33 pm
A study of the IQ in Palestine 12-2014 Bakheit and Lynn
Abstract
The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children aged 6.0 to 11.5 years, tested individually. The sample obtained a British IQ of 85.
Introduction
We believe that no studies have been published of intelligence in Palestine. There are, however, two studies that may give a reasonable approximate estimate of the Palestine IQ. The first is a study of the intelligence of Arab school children in Israel, who could be expected to have approximately the same IQ as Arab children in Palestine, carried out by Lieblich and Kugelmas (1981). This reported the IQ of a sample of 639 6–16 year olds tested with the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Revised for whom an IQ of 86 (in relation to a British IQ of 100) was calculated by Lynn and Vanhanen (2012). The second is the PISA (Program for International Student Assessment) study of 15 year olds tested in a number of countries in 2009 in mathematics, science and reading. The results are highly correlated with IQs and have therefore been adopted as a proxy for IQs by Meisenberg and Lynn (2011), who estimate an IQ of 83.3 for Palestine from the data. In this paper we present the first data for intelligence in Palestine measured with an intelligence test.
More at URL above...
Poster's comment: This site is less favorable: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country Check "Palestine".
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:31:26 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 13m U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken and Members of the Israeli War Cabinet are currently in a Bomb Shelter beneath Tel Aviv due to the ongoing Rocket Attack on the City.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:31:51 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:33:16 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President, Vladimir Putin held a Phone Call today to discuss the ongoing War against Hamas and the Situation in the surrounding Region.
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 2m Russian President Vladimir #Putin told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin #Netanyahu in a phone call on Monday that #Russia was ready to help end the confrontation between #Israel and the #Palestinians, the Kremlin said.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:34:41 pm
Israel can't spare you any money or weapons...../s
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 52m BREAKING: Ukraine's Zelensky request to visit Israel has been rejected
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 16, 2023, 05:35:00 pm
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Post by: Sighlass on October 16, 2023, 05:45:22 pm
Good multi-cam live video page on Youtube I like (well moderated chat, that zaps most Muslim crapola Propaganda)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtruJztXE5w
Important Note: Live feeds only can last like 20 +/-hour stretches... so always go to the channel videos and look for the most recent one to make sure you have the live (most recent) video.
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Post by: 240B on October 16, 2023, 05:48:46 pm
Israel can't spare you any money or weapons...../s
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 52m BREAKING: Ukraine's Zelensky request to visit Israel has been rejected
He wasn't going for money or weapons from Israel. He was going to interject himself into the Hamas conflict. He wanted a, "LOOK AT ME! DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME!", photo op. Israel has enough on their plate. Israel does not have time to humor Zelensky by involving Ukraine in their war.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:48:48 pm
What is Israel's Iron Beam?
The Iron Beam is a high energy laser weapon system created by the Israeli defense technology company, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, along with Israel Aerospace Industries, also developed the Iron Dome and David's Sling.
The Iron Beam debuted at the Singapore Airshow on February 11, 2014. It will eventually serve as one part of Israel’s multi-layer air and anti-missile defense system, working in conjunction with the Iron Dome.
The 100-kilowatt defense system ranges several kilometers and was designed with the purpose of intercepting many airborne threats including, rockets, artillery, mortars and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).
The Iron Beam uses a fiber laser to generate a laser beam that is then used to destroy airborne targets.
A few of the main benefits of the Iron Beam are lower costs per shot, as compared to the Iron Dome and less manpower needed for operation.
The Iron Beam isn't supposed to be operational until 2024 or 2025, but in the wake of Israel’s current war with Hamas, the weapon could potentially be called into action sooner.
Fox News' Ashlyn Messier contributed to this report.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:49:41 pm
Israeli invasion of Gaza may be delayed 'a few more days'
Israel's invasion of Hamas may be delayed "a few more days" into next week, an Israeli Defense Force spokesman suggested on Monday.
The spokesman, Lt. Peter Lerner, says he "did hear word" that the invasion is delayed. The IDF has amassed a force of some 300,000 near Northern Gaza in anticipation of a ground operation. As of Monday morning, nearly 200 hostages remained in Hamas custody somewhere in Gaza.
"I did hear word that it is delayed, the major entrance is delayed--to dismantle Hamas--is delayed, for a few more days," Lerner told Fox News. "I believe it's Shabbat, now, coming up Saturday, that we actually will have the major [offensive]. Of course, you know there are missions going in that we don't talk about, but the big one is supposed to be in a few days, not tonight."
Israel has rained down thousands of air strikes on Hamas targets throughout Gaza, and it has urged civilians to flee toward the south.
While President Biden has said and Israeli occupation of Gaza would be a "mistake," the U.S. declared its full support for Israel to defend itself and retaliate against Hamas. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 05:50:59 pm
He wasn't going for money or weapons from Israel. He was going to interject himself into the Hamas conflict. He wanted a, "LOOK AT ME! DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME!", photo op. Israel has enough on their plate. Israel does not have time to humor Zelensky by involving Ukraine in their war.
Yeah..I know he wasn't going for money...I tried to make a joke, and failed...
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 16, 2023, 06:26:11 pm
I still don't see a difference between needing to defend Ukraine vs. Israel. :shrug:
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Post by: Timber Rattler on October 16, 2023, 06:28:59 pm
Russian President Vladimir #Putin told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin #Netanyahu in a phone call on Monday that #Russia was ready to help end the confrontation between #Israel and the #Palestinians, the Kremlin said.
So Putin is going to help Netanyahu destroy Hamas and kick the Iranians out?
*****rollingeyes*****
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 16, 2023, 06:52:33 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President, Vladimir Putin held a Phone Call today to discuss the ongoing War against Hamas and the Situation in the surrounding Region.
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 2m Russian President Vladimir #Putin told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin #Netanyahu in a phone call on Monday that #Russia was ready to help end the confrontation between #Israel and the #Palestinians, the Kremlin said.
Too bad they were just revealed as maybe the biggest paper tiger in world history.
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Post by: Bigun on October 16, 2023, 07:15:52 pm
Too bad they were just revealed as maybe the biggest paper tiger in world history.
:thumbsup:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 07:20:30 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 13m The Hamas Military Spokesman has just made a Statement where he claimed that the Group now has somewhere between 200 and 250 Hostages in the Gaza Strip and that at least 22 of them have Died.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 07:21:11 pm
Me,either. Both are controlled by modern-day fascists,and their goal is to eliminate individual freedoms all over the world.
Israel is getting more attention because there are more Jews in the west who are prominent,than there are Ukrainians. Plus,the Ukrainians are nowhere near as organized.
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 16, 2023, 08:08:55 pm
I have mixed feelings. One hand to save the hostages and on the other to rid the world of Hamas ....
I had thought that Special Ops was working on freeing hostages???
1. Trading something of value for hostages validates and encourages hostage taking.
2. Israel has tried the kicking-the-negotiations-football many many times since 1948. Israel needs to ignore that football and pay attention to the Lucy proffering the football.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 08:09:48 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 19m The Foreign Minister of Iran, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian stated today that the chance for a Peaceful End to the War in Israel is quickly becoming Impossible and that the possibility of the Conflict Expanding is becoming an Eventuality.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 08:25:09 pm
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Post by: mountaineer on October 16, 2023, 08:27:42 pm
Logan Ratick @Logan_Ratick ‘Not The Right Time’: Netanyahu Rejects Zelenskyy’s Offer To Visit Israel. Simply put, Netanyahu doesn’t want to get the Iranian regime’s allies in Moscow involved. Nor is he likely pleased Zelenskyy used Holocaust comparisons when demanding weapons 4:07 PM · Oct 16, 2023
Story from DailyCaller: ‘Not The Right Time’: Netanyahu Rejects Zelenskyy’s Offer To Visit Israel, Report Says (https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/16/netanyahu-rejects-zelenskyy-offer-visit-israel/)
Oooh, someone's afraid the gravy train won't stop at his station.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 08:32:18 pm
WATCH: Hamas Releases First Purported Video of Israeli Hostage, Mia Shem
The Palestinian terror organization known as Hamas has released what is being described as a video of one of the 199 known Israeli hostages taken to Gaza during a massive terror attack that killed over 1,400 Israelis and wounded over 4,100 on Oct.7.
The video shows a young woman who is resting in bed and having bandages applied to her right arm. She has tattoos on her left.
In a straight-to-camera shot, she says (translated from Hebrew):
Hi, I am Mia Shem, I am 21 years old, from Shoham, at the moment I am in Gaza, I came back on Saturday towards morning from the area of Sderot, there was a party, I was badly wounded in my hand, from the party they took me to Gaza, they took me to the hospital for three hours, they are worried about me, they are taking care of me, they are giving me medicines, everything is fine. I’m just asking to be returned home as soon as possible, to my family, my parents and my brothers. Please get us out of here as soon as possible. Thank you.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/16/mia-shem-watch-hamas-releases-first-purported-video-of-israeli-hostage/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 08:42:24 pm
OSINTdefender reposted ELINT News @ELINTNews · 14m I think the Axis of Resistance may have made a decision or may be making a decision to intervene militarily in the Israel-Gaza war, following the Iranian Foreign Ministers comments. I think they see this as a one-time opportunity to come to the defence of an Axis ally.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 16, 2023, 08:46:28 pm
I had thought that Special Ops was working on freeing hostages???
You can bet they are training to do this very thing. Maybe even already have plans for a raid,but are waiting to see if the hostages get released first because they know that if they "go in" on a rescue mission,the Muslims will immediately start executing the hostages.
You won't hear a word about what they are doing until and unless they do it.
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Post by: libertybele on October 16, 2023, 08:47:23 pm
US sends 'be ready to potentially deploy' orders to select troops as Israel-Hamas war escalates
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has put in "be ready to potentially deploy" orders for a select number of American troops should Israel need them, an official told Fox News.
The Wall Street Journal reported that around 2,000 troops were selected this weekend, but that number has not been confirmed. It is also unclear which exact units were chosen, or under which circumstances they could be deployed.
Top officials stressed that this deployment would not be for a combat role, but for advising and medically supporting Israeli forces.
The news comes as the Biden administration has continually expressed support for Israel after the country was attacked by Hamas terrorists on October 7.
"We must be crystal clear: We stand with Israel," Biden said during a speech last week. "We stand with Israel. And we will make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack."...............
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu and Russian President, Vladimir Putin held a Phone Call today to discuss the ongoing War against Hamas and the Situation in the surrounding Region.
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 2m Russian President Vladimir #Putin told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin #Netanyahu in a phone call on Monday that #Russia was ready to help end the confrontation between #Israel and the #Palestinians, the Kremlin said.
Not a chance. They are too valuable as "bulletproof shields". The Arab "fall back position" is going to be "freeing the hostages in exchange for safe travel somewhere they (the Arabs) will be safe." .
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Post by: libertybele on October 16, 2023, 09:32:23 pm
Blinken, Netanyahu shelter in bunker amid air raid sirens in Tel Aviv
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sheltered in a bunker for five minutes on Monday when air raid sirens went off in Tel Aviv during their meeting, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.
All the meeting participants have since moved out of the bunker, resumed their meeting and were going to a command center at Israel's defense ministry to continue their discussions, he said.
The incident occurred as President Joe Biden weighs a trip to the region himself amid an Israeli bombardment of Gaza after Hamas' deadly attack on Israel 10 days ago.
"During the Secretary's meeting with PM Netanyahu and the war cabinet, the air raid sirens went off and they sheltered in bunker for five minutes," Miller said...................
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 09:55:58 pm
Iran says 'preemptive action' by resistance front expected in coming hours Reuters October 16, 20234:14 PM CDTUpdated 39 min ago
Oct 16 (Reuters) - Iran's top envoy said that a "preemptive action" could be expected in the coming hours, state TV reported on Monday, adding that Israel will not be allowed to take any action in the Gaza Strip without facing consequences.
"Leaders of the Resistance will not allow the Zionist regime to take any action in Gaza. ... All options are open and we cannot be indifferent to the war crimes committed against the people of Gaza," Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian, told state TV.
"The resistance front is capable of waging a long-term war with the enemy (Israel)... in the coming hours, we can expect a preemptive action by the resistance front," he said, without elaborating.
Last week, Iran's top authority Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Tehran was not involved in the Tehran-backed militant Hamas group's attack on Israel on Oct. 7, but hailed what he called Israel's "irreparable" military and intelligence defeat.
more https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-preemptive-action-by-resistance-front-expected-coming-hours-2023-10-16/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 10:01:40 pm
IDF says it has killed Khan Younis head of Hamas intelligence By Emanuel Fabian Today, 6:33 pm
The Israel Defense Forces says it has struck and killed the regional head of Hamas’s intelligence in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis.
The IDF does not immediately provide further details on the strike, including the name of the senior Hamas member or where the strike took place.
The military also publishes a series of videos showing strikes in the Gaza Strip, including the one targeting the senior Hamas member, and on tunnels used by Hamas terrorists and a rocket-launching squad.
more https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-it-has-killed-khan-younis-head-of-hamas-intelligence/
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 16, 2023, 10:28:04 pm
Blinken, Netanyahu shelter in bunker amid air raid sirens in Tel Aviv
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sheltered in a bunker for five minutes on Monday when air raid sirens went off in Tel Aviv during their meeting, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.
All the meeting participants have since moved out of the bunker, resumed their meeting and were going to a command center at Israel's defense ministry to continue their discussions, he said.
The incident occurred as President Joe Biden weighs a trip to the region himself amid an Israeli bombardment of Gaza after Hamas' deadly attack on Israel 10 days ago.
"During the Secretary's meeting with PM Netanyahu and the war cabinet, the air raid sirens went off and they sheltered in bunker for five minutes," Miller said...................
So Putin is going to help Netanyahu destroy Hamas and kick the Iranians out?
*****rollingeyes*****
For years, Putin has given Israel free rein in bombing Iranian and Hezbollah weapons stashes in Syria.
I wouldn't throw away Putin's offer, just yet.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 16, 2023, 10:35:32 pm
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Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11
BREAKING: Ronen Bar, the head of the Shin Bet security agency, accepts responsibility for the intelligence failures that led to the massacre of 1,300 Israelis and at least 30 Americans.
“Despite a series of actions we carried out, unfortunately on Saturday we were unable to generate a sufficient warning that would allow the attack to be thwarted...As the one who heads the organization, the responsibility for this is mine."
The Times of Israel also notes: "Several hours before the attack on October 7, the defense establishment identified unusual movement in the Gaza Strip, leading to a late-night phone call between senior officials, but the signs were largely dismissed."
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 19m The Foreign Minister of Iran, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian stated today that the chance for a Peaceful End to the War in Israel is quickly becoming Impossible and that the possibility of the Conflict Expanding is becoming an Eventuality.
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Sebastian Gorka DrG @SebGorka
BREAKING
Pentagon has put select US units on alert to be deployed to the Middle East.
5:01 PM · Oct 16, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 16, 2023, 10:53:22 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
Sources within the Israeli Defense Force have reportedly told the Jerusalem Post, that one of the Primary Reasons for the Delayed Invasion of the Gaza Strip has been the Increasing Worry that Hezbollah will Join the War soon after the Invasion does begin, with IDF Northern Command making sure that Forces along the Lebanese Border are prepared for an Major Outbreak of Hostilities which is claimed to now be almost Complete.
2:57 PM · Oct 16, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 16, 2023, 11:20:43 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 11:47:12 pm
Why has the Gaza ground invasion been delayed since Friday? - analysis Is Hezbollah waiting to strike until forces are in a Gaza quagmire? By YONAH JEREMY BOB OCTOBER 16, 2023 18:37 Updated: OCTOBER 16, 2023 20:09
It seemed crystal clear on Thursday: the IDF counter-invasion of Gaza would start either Friday or Saturday.
The IDF had given certain deadlines for Palestinians to evacuate northern Gaza, with the deadlines expiring by midday Friday.
The drum beat toward an invasion had started as early as Sunday-Monday and was only getting louder, with the air force having already paved the way with several days of withering bombing.
Yet, now we have arrived at late Monday, and if anything, the signs (which could also be psychological warfare) are that the invasion is further away, and not yet imminent.
more https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-768684
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 16, 2023, 11:49:19 pm
Im beginning to wonder if they are not going to invade Gaza, just bomb them into oblivion?
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Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 16, 2023, 11:49:57 pm
Dear Jewish Americans at the rally....... There is no doubt in my mind that Israel would welcome a peaceful relationship with their neighbors. However, HOW can they have a "peaceful relationship" if their neighbors are trying to bomb them out of existence? 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:01:13 am
Not a chance. They are too valuable as "bulletproof shields". The Arab "fall back position" is going to be "freeing the hostages in exchange for safe travel somewhere they (the Arabs) will be safe." .
I, too, think the hostages are still alive. Iran, especially, has long believed hostages are invaluable bartering chips.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:04:57 am
Rapid Response Force Of 2,000 US Marines Heading Toward Israel: REPORT
Micaela Burrow Investigative Reporter, Defense October 16, 2023 6:40 PM ET
A rapid response force consisting of 2,000 U.S. Marines is heading toward the waters off Israel, CNN reported, citing a defense official familiar with the plans.
The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), a force of rapid response troops part of the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group, was stationed near Kuwait to complete scheduled exercises but departed early due to ongoing events in the region, Marine Corps Times first reported. The 26th MEU aboard the USS Bataan is now off the coast of Oman and received direction to prepare for a move toward Israel recently, CNN reported.
The U.S. has rapidly moved to crowd the Israeli coastline with U.S. naval power since the Iran-backed Hamas terrorist organization launched a surprise attack on Israel. Tel Aviv declared war on Hamas in response.
U.S. officials say the deployments serve as a show of force to prevent other actors from joining the hostilities against Israel.
more https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/16/rapid-response-force-of-2000-us-marines-heading-toward-israel-report/
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:10:15 am
Im beginning to wonder if they are not going to invade Gaza, just bomb them into oblivion?
FWIW, there are growing whispers that Israel's reliance on air power and technology has left it unprepared for a ground war ---- and part of the delay is due to crash training in door-to-door combat.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:10:59 am
Biden going to Israel Wednesday per Blinken...
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:13:12 am
FWIW, there are growing whispers that Israel's reliance on air power and technology has left it unprepared for a ground war ---- and part of the delay is due to crash training in door-to-door combat.
I have read that too...most of their military are Reserves not to be compared with our Reserves who have monthly training...
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:16:41 am
CNN @CNN · 45s President Biden will visit Israel on Wednesday, Secretary of State Blinken says. https://cnn.it/48TkBxH
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:21:01 am
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AFP News Agency @AFP
Breaking: Biden to visit Israel on Wednesday: Blinken
8:05 PM · Oct 16, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:22:41 am
CNN @CNN · 45s President Biden will visit Israel on Wednesday, Secretary of State Blinken says. https://cnn.it/48TkBxH
We must be on the same feeds! :laugh:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:27:54 am
Joey Mannarino @JoeyMannarinoUS · 9m Biden is going to Israel on Wednesday.
He still hasn’t been to the Southern Border.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:29:20 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m The Meeting in Tel Aviv between the Israeli War Cabinet and U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken has now Finished after over 7.5 Hours, Blinken will reportedly be making an Announcement sometime tonight.
OSINTdefender reposted Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken · 4m · On Wednesday, @POTUS will visit Israel. He’s coming here at a critical moment for Israel, for the region, and for the world.
Have you told Pops he's going to Israel yet?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:41:22 am
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Blinken after meeting with Netanyahu:
"On Wednesday, Biden will visit Israel. The president will reaffirm the United States' solidarity with Israel and our commitment to its security. Biden will hear from Israel what it needs to protect its people." (Video)
What kind/type of training do the Israeli Reserves get?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with their history,the Israeli's are going to be casual about keeping their armed forces up to date. It just defies all logic.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:44:58 am
What kind/type of training do the Israeli Reserves get?
I have a seriously hard time believing that with their history,the Israeli's are going to be casual about keeping their armed forces up to date. It just defies all logic.
@sneakypete Israel has become lax just like the US
I've read that their reservist only train once a year to what extent I don't know..but it all fits since they were caught unaware of the attack on Oct 6th...the once infallible Mossad let them down too...
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Post by: DB on October 17, 2023, 12:49:24 am
Well... Israel could tell the Palestinians to hand over all the Hamas people in Gaza and they won't invade and do it themselves.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 12:50:11 am
I can't get past announcing when the POTUS will be visiting a war zone ---- nevermind what the fool will say once there.
Ya know it's funny you mentioned that..today when the WH cancelled the trip to Co I was sure he was already on AF1 enroute to the ME....I thought Peter Doocey acted a little strange today reporting from the WH like he knew something but not telling....and telling the world what day he is going..why not give the eta too
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 01:20:16 am
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13 minutes ago Edward WongTraveling with Secretary Blinken
U.S. and Israeli officials have agreed to work on developing a plan to get humanitarian aid into Gaza and setting up “safe zones,” a senior U.S. State Department official told reporters early Tuesday on Blinken's plane.
Ya know it's funny you mentioned that..today when the WH cancelled the trip to Co I was sure he was already on AF1 enroute to the ME....I thought Peter Doocey acted a little strange today reporting from the WH like he knew something but not telling....and telling the world what day he is going..why not give the eta too
Inviting the Biden regime into this and giving them such a public role will backfire on Israel. The Netanyahu government should have kept communications to phone calls.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:28:41 am
Inviting the Biden regime into this and giving them such a public role will backfire on Israel. The Netanyahu government should have kept communications to phone calls.
Totally agree...next demand will be de-escalation...This admin doesn't have the balls to follow through..Netanyahu will be sorry he invited this idiot...Pops on his latest interview wants to be known as making peace in the ME...
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 01:38:59 am
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 01:51:46 am
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Black guy going off at Palestinian supporters on the streets of DC: "They killed Americans! Take that flag down. You can talk but take that flag down. They're terrorists. Don't apologize for me." (Video)
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 02:01:45 am
Wendy Patterson @wendyp4545 · 6m Blinken says Biden is going to Israel this week. His poll numbers must have been really bad running around talking about junk debt.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 02:05:36 am
They got attacked by Hamas and now have to endure the presence of Joe Biden?
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 02:20:43 am
From Al Gore's magnificent Internet ---
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Oh, thank God! Joe Biden's going to Israel! NOW you'll see some action, boy!! /s He'll probably fall flat on his face on the tarmac....oh, and I can hardly wait to hear how his son Beau died fighting Hamas!!! I am SO sick of this sock puppet of a man!
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 02:51:58 am
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
During the almost 8-Hour Meeting tonight between U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken and the Israeli War Cabinet, it was stated that a Condition for President Biden’s Visit to Israel was the Approval for Humanitarian Aid into the Gaza Strip which has now been Okayed by Prime Minister Netanyahu; this is why the Announcement for the Visit took place right after the Meeting had Ended.
9:27 PM · Oct 16, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 02:54:44 am
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
All Cities and Towns within the “Combat Operation Zone” around the Gaza Strip have now been Evacuated including the City of Sderot which has a Population of 30,000; Evacuations have now also been Completed for 20 Towns in Northern Israel that are within 2km of the Border with Lebanon.
10:43 PM · Oct 16, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 17, 2023, 02:56:02 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender During the almost 8-Hour Meeting tonight between U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken and the Israeli War Cabinet, it was stated that a Condition for President Biden’s Visit to Israel was the Approval for Humanitarian Aid into the Gaza Strip which has now been Okayed by Prime Minister Netanyahu; this is why the Announcement for the Visit took place right after the Meeting had Ended.
US is waffling as expected...
Yep. And you can bet many of those 'humanitarian' trucks will be loaded with rockets, ATMs, and other explosives. Biden is a fool. Netanyahu thinks by getting him there, he will see the truth of what is going on and will decide to back Israel fully. But Biden will never see it, continuing instead to believe he knows more than anyone else.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 17, 2023, 03:45:08 am
Yep. And you can bet many of those 'humanitarian' trucks will be loaded with rockets, ATMs, and other explosives. Biden is a fool. Netanyahu thinks by getting him there, he will see the truth of what is going on and will decide to back Israel fully. But Biden will never see it, continuing instead to believe he knows more than anyone else.
Biden never sees anything to the extend that he understands it. Or even cares about it. With him,even before he became brain-dead,it has always been about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!"
Now he is a retard and follows directions from Jill and his other handlers,and they are all whores for cash deposits in off-shore accounts. If it were possible to sell America outright and give the buyer a deed,they would happily do it if it couldn't be traced back to them.
Not that the DNC and half the RNC would ever allow that to happen. They MUST keep "appearances up",don't ya know?
I am not smart enough to figure out how to replace our current system with one that doesn't have professional pimps posing as politicians and pimping out America to the highest bidder,but I sure hope somebody is or America is OVER.
The saddest part about this is that WE,THE PEOPLE,are the ones responsible for allowing this to happen,and it happened just because we couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what was going on,and to hold the toes of the professional thieves known as Dimocrats and Republicans feet to the fire and make them do their duty to country instead of self.
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Post by: Free Vulcan on October 17, 2023, 04:09:29 am
I have read that too...most of their military are Reserves not to be compared with our Reserves who have monthly training...
All I have is my gut, but I feel like that is part of the hesitation, that they don't want to commit too many assets to one front because they are afraid to being stretched too thin if one or more others pop up.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:30:54 am
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Why has the Gaza ground invasion been delayed since Friday? - analysis Jerusalem Post, Oct 16, 2023
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What changed? A number of factors seem to have caused a delay, but sources have told The Jerusalem Post that one factor has been a growing concern that Hezbollah is waiting for the moment that most IDF ground forces are committed to Gaza to open a full front with the IDF in the north.
In this narrative, the fact that Hezbollah did not engage at the start of the war Saturday morning and has kept its attacks on Israel at a fairly low threshold does not prove that it is deterred but is part of an elaborate fake-out to lure the IDF into a false sense of security, similar to what Hamas pulled off in the south.
As fodder for such suspicions, sources would note that Israeli intelligence and the political echelon must have a new level of humility about their assessments of enemy intentions after missing the boat regarding Hamas in the south.
This will not stop the IDF from invading Gaza, but it may have caused a delay to better double-check signs regarding Hezbollah's intentions as well as to further reinforce the northern forces in case the worst comes to pass.
There is also a deepening recognition in the IDF and at the political level, that the IDF has not done anything like this in decades, and that rushing in unprepared, simply to more quickly satisfy the wider population's thirst for retribution, could be a large mistake.
In this perspective, the 2006 Second Lebanon War ground invasion was a complete mess, with the airpower being the successful part, with both the 2008-9 and 2014 invasions of Gaza being more symbolic.
In other words, with all of the many "rounds" of conflict, the IDF should not be overconfident about its talent at conducting large land invasion operations.
Strategy against Hamas While achieving strategic "surprise" would be impossible given that Hamas started this war, the IDF would also like to achieve at least a tactical surprise against Hamas, which requires planning.
A number of other delaying factors could be US pressure to avoid civilian casualties, domestic concerns about Israeli hostages in Gaza, and giving more time for Palestinians to evacuate.
Another factor is the US and world response to date.
Currently, Israel feels huge support and like it has more time to work with to deal with Hamas.
One question that arises at this point though is whether top IDF and civilian leaders are misjudging the clock.
According to Hamas' numbers, already a couple thousand Palestinians are dead and many more wounded. In 2014, when 2,000 Palestinians were killed, at least half were civilians despite the IDF's attempts to avoid civilian casualties.
Such is the fog of war.
The second that those numbers balloon, which will likely be when the invasion starts in a real way, there will be powerful US and world pressure to stop.
Also, the Post has confirmed from many sources that no one has yet decided what will happen to Gaza after the IDF will supposedly topple Hamas' rule.
This and all of the other above factors have left top Israeli officials huffing and puffing for new superlatives for what they will do to Hamas...while still basically having done very little new for about a week.
Only after the war will we know whether this extra time was spent wisely crafting a smarter and more effective invasion and post-invasion plan, or whether the delay will be looked back on as having wasted precious days to "change the reality in Gaza" and avoid future near term Hamas attacks.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:58:44 am
From the JP analysis:
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Another factor is the US and world response to date.
Currently, Israel feels huge support and like it has more time to work with to deal with Hamas.
One question that arises at this point though is whether top IDF and civilian leaders are misjudging the clock.
This my question, too. The longer the time between the Hamas invasion and atrocities, the softer this support will likely become.
European countries will want to shut down Palestinian protests and threats, casualties in Gaza will increase and calls for peace could likely replace the proclamations of Israel's right to defend herself.
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Post by: Sighlass on October 17, 2023, 05:03:48 am
Just Wow... I am sorry, that is a deal breaker for me. No, just hell no.
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Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 17, 2023, 05:56:24 am
That Nikki Haley clip does not include her saying that she thinks we should bring them here.
If that was part of the question, than that part of the question was cut off/edited out.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 07:32:03 am
Nikki Haley, dumber than a box of rocks! She is a Republican, right? Could fool me. If she is EVER appointed to another government position, shame on the fool calling for her service.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 07:35:33 am
There should be only one objective: ANNIHILATE THE ENTIRE GAZA AREA. Declare it a NO GO ZONE, an expression used by mussies. There are 300+ NO GO ZONES in the Paris area, and we even have NO GO ZONES in the USA.
Once every building is leveled, and any one there is gone or dead, post signs reading This is a NO GO ZONE, anyone entering will be shot on site!
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 07:45:30 am
I said it on another thread, but it is worthy of being repeated and embraced.
Admiral Bull Halsey in 1943 said the following in San Francisco:
'The only good Jap, is a Jap, that has been dead, for six months or more. In a nation like Japan, where the civilian population support the military as they do, the only good Jap civilian, is a Jap civilian, that has been dead for six months or more'.
I believe it is a literal quote, but I watched the video of him saying these exact words many years ago.
Point is, his words were appropriate then, they are appropriate today in regard to the Palestinians in Gaza.
Netanyahu betrays Israel if he fails the complete annihilation of Gaza. The Russians left East Berlin in ruins as a reminder I believe of what not to do ever again. I stood on a platform in 1970, and gazed at the ruins somewhat surprised. Best thing Netanyahu can do is completely level Gaza, and tell all involved to find another piece of ground to live upon, because Gaza has just been deemed UNLIVABLE. Any person found in Gaza in the future will be shot/bombed on site. It is permanently restricted from habitation.
:yowsa: 22222frying pan :yowsa: 22222frying pan
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Sighlass on October 17, 2023, 07:59:09 am
That Nikki Haley clip does not include her saying that she thinks we should bring them here.
If that was part of the question, than that part of the question was cut off/edited out.
Yeah, I was about to edit my reply to say the headline was a stretch to be honest.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:50:29 pm
Israel Delay in Ground Invasion of Gaza Prompts Speculation
Joel B. Pollak 17 Oct 2023
Israel appears to have delayed a ground invasion of Gaza that was expected as early as Friday, and speculation is mounting as to why.
Last Thursday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) issued a warning to civilians in northern Gaza to evacuate south, giving them 24 hours to do so (though a spokesman later said that the IDF understood that the evacuation might take several days). But since then, while massing troops on the border, the IDF has not invaded Gaza, except in sporadic attacks to conduct reconnaissance.
One reason is Lebanon. Iran’s proxy terrorist army, Hezbollah, has been firing anti-tank missiles at Israeli posts on the border sporadically, and commandos have been trying to breach the Israeli border at various points. Israel has maintained a policy of firing back, but only at the positions from which they were attacked, not at broader Hezbollah targets. If Hezbollah were to go to war, as Iran has threatened, Israel would be fighting a war on two fronts. So it has been taking time to prepare for that outcome.
Another reason is international concern for humanitarian conditions in Gaza. In previous conflicts, Israel’s most formidable enemy has been global public opinion, which has infinite patience for Israeli civilian casualties but none at all for Palestinian civilian casualties. Though Israel is committed to destroying Hamas regardless of criticism from the outside world, it also needs to preserve its fragile relations with its new Arab allies, as well as the goodwill of friends in the West, especially the United States.
That leads to the next possible reason: fear that a rapid, intense invasion might alienate the Biden administration. Though President Joe Biden has been very supportive since the Oct 7. terror attacks, his administration’s policy toward Israel was decidedly cool for two-and-a-half years. There is speculation — which the U.S. has denied — that Israel will hold off on a big ground invasion until Biden’s expected visit on Wednesday, Oct. 18, is over and the president is again safely out of the way.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 12:53:33 pm
IDF: We Tipped our Hand with Evacuation Order Because We Want to Save Civilians
While speaking to CNN on Monday, IDF Spokesman Jonathan Conricus noted that by telling Gazan civilians to evacuate to the south, “we have just advertised our intentions” but Israel engaged in this move, even though it’s not generally a smart military strategy, “Because we want civilians out of fighting, and we don’t want them to be killed.”
more https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/17/idf-we-tipped-our-hand-with-evacuation-order-because-we-want-to-save-civilians/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:11:20 pm
Israel’s hunt for Hamas terror group leader Yahya Sinwar: 'Dead man walking'
A clear objective of Israel’s war in Gaza right now is hunting down and assassinating Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.
Referred to by Israel as the Butcher of Khan Younis for his violent and cruel torture methods against his enemies, both Israeli and Palestinian, Sinwar, 60, is widely seen as being behind the massacre of Israeli civilians carried out by thousands of Hamas militants on Oct. 7.
The attack, in which 1,400 people are now known to have been killed, with a further 200 missing and likely being held hostage inside the Gaza Strip, is the worst against Jews since the Holocaust. Civilian men, women and children were not only murdered but, according to multiple eyewitness reports also brutalized, raped and even decapitated.
"That man is in our sights," Israeli Defense Forces spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht told journalists over the weekend. "Sinwar is the leader of Hamas in Gaza and he’s a dead man walking."
"We will get to him, however long it takes… and this war could be long," he said.
Sinwar is believed to be somewhere in the Palestinian enclave but hidden deep underground in the warren of tunnels Hamas uses to transport weapons and fighters and where they may even be keeping the hostages. He was born in the Khan Younis refugee camp when the area was part of Egypt. Posted by Lawrence Richard https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/october-17-2023-israel-hamas-war
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:12:01 pm
Hamas will 'protect' hostages, release them 'when circumstances on the ground allow,' it says
Hamas is reportedly claiming that it will "protect" its hostages taken during the war with Israel and will only release them "when circumstances on the ground allow."
Hamas has "a group of detainees of different nationalities, these are our guests and we seek to protect them," according to Abu Obeida, whom Reuters says is the spokesman of the Palestinian terrorist group’s armed wing.
"We will release detainees of different nationalities when circumstances on the ground allow," he added, without elaborating.
The comments surfaced Monday in a video message from Israel says Hamas is holding 199 Israelis hostage, while 13 Americans remain unaccounted for.
Fox News' Greg Norman contributed to this report. Posted by Lawrence Richard
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:28:34 pm
Hamas Wants to Trade CAIR Leader in Federal Prison for U.S. Hostages “Only recently, it did one with Iran. Why wouldn't it conduct a prisoner swap with us?”
October 17, 2023 by Daniel Greenfield
There are an estimated 14 American hostages being held in Gaza. (This number may rise or fall as Hamas continues to release videos of the hostages and Israel continues identifying bodies, some of which have been charred beyond recognition, by using DNA samples from family members.) As of this time, there are 20 Americans missing and bodies are being tested.
Biden spoke with some family members on a Zoom call. “It’s my personal commitment to do everything possible, everything possible to return every missing American to their families,” he said, “we’re working around the clock to secure the release of Americans held by Hamas.”
But the Biden administration has currently ruled out sending rescue forces, instead it is using Hamas allies, Qatar and Turkey, to conduct negotiations with the Islamic terrorist organization.
While Israel has refused to trade hostages for terrorists, Biden may be more willing to do so.
Senior Hamas leader Ali Baraka told Russia’s RT propaganda network, “There are also prisoners in the U.S. We want them. Of course. There are Hamas members sentenced for life in the U.S. We want them too. Of course. We demand that the U.S. free our sons from prisons. The U.S. conducts prisoner swaps. Only recently, it did one with Iran. Why wouldn’t it conduct a prisoner swap with us?”
more https://www.frontpagemag.com/hamas-wants-to-trade-cair-leader-in-federal-prison-for-u-s-hostages/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:34:28 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 2h 11 days into the war, Hamas is still firing on central Israel. Their ability to target major cities remains. 6,500 rockets have been fired into Israel since last Saturday.
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 17, 2023, 01:49:00 pm
Yep. And you can bet many of those 'humanitarian' trucks will be loaded with rockets, ATMs, and other explosives. Biden is a fool. Netanyahu thinks by getting him there, he will see the truth of what is going on and will decide to back Israel fully. But Biden will never see it, continuing instead to believe he knows more than anyone else.
Biden has no idea what day it is! Substitute Obama - who takes orders directly from Tehran - for Biden in the above and you're right on. @Hoodat
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Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2023, 01:58:09 pm
Israel Takes Out Top Hamas Military Leader in Most Significant Assassination Since Start of the War Commander Ayman Nofal was killed by Israel's bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip, Hamas said Published 10/17/23 09:53 AM ET|Updated 4 min ago Christopher Gavin https://themessenger.com/news/ayman-nofal-hamas-leader-killed-inner-circle-israel-gaza-bombing
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 01:58:21 pm
There should be only one objective: ANNIHILATE THE ENTIRE GAZA AREA. Declare it a NO GO ZONE, an expression used by mussies. There are 300+ NO GO ZONES in the Paris area, and we even have NO GO ZONES in the USA.
Once every building is leveled, and any one there is gone or dead, post signs reading This is a NO GO ZONE, anyone entering will be shot on site!
Yeah, just deliberately annihilate a couple million people without regard to whether or not they they are combatants, support Hamas, etc..
Zero chance of that.
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Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 17, 2023, 02:17:06 pm
May I respectfully suggest you stop talking and kill them?
Very complicated operation that has to consider the location of the hostages, chances of rescue, civilians, etc.. They surely have contingency plans and orders drawn up, but they'll need to be massively modified before going in. It's a very urbanized environment, and that is the most difficult type of operation to conduct.
Can't just roll across the border.
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Post by: Bigun on October 17, 2023, 02:19:14 pm
May I respectfully suggest you stop talking and kill them?
I heartily second that motion!
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 02:21:53 pm
Israel has asked the US for $10 billion in emergency military aid — report Today, 5:15 am
Israel has asked the United States for $10 billion in emergency military aid, The New York Times reports, citing three officials familiar with the request.
The aid package is currently being put together by Congress in coordination with the White House and will also include funds for Ukraine, Taiwan and the US-Mexico border, according to NYT.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said during a visit to Tel Aviv on Sunday that US lawmakers have discussed providing Israel with replacement ammunition for the Iron Dome missile defense system, precision-guided bombs, JDAM kits to turn standard bombs into precision munitions and 155-millimeter ammunition.
So, in order to get funding for Israel we have to send money to Ukraine.
That is indeed what is on the table, unfortunately. :thud:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 02:38:04 pm
Israel hedges on plans for ground invasion of Gaza Strip By Olivia Land
The Israel Defense Forces appears to be hedging its plans for a retaliatory offensive of the Gaza Strip – with supposed plans for a massive ground invasion remaining unconfirmed.
"We are preparing for the next stages of war. We haven't said what they will be. Everybody's talking about the ground offensive. It might be something different," Lt Colonel Richard Hecht told a regular briefing with reporters, according to the Jerusalem Post.
Rumors about the IDF”s plans started flying last week, in the wake of Hamas’ deadly surprise attack on southern Israel on Oct. 7.
Israeli officials previously urged civilians in northern Gaza to evacuate their homes ahead of airstrikes – a move that provoked a mixed response from the international community.
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Post by: 240B on October 17, 2023, 02:48:50 pm
Israel hedges on plans for ground invasion of Gaza Strip
Lost interest already. A week ago I was pumped up. "Let's go kill some terrorists!" The longer it drags on with one false start after another, it has become boring.
Ready, Get set, wait ...
Ready, Get set, wait ...
Ready, Get set, wait ... OK ... here we go for real this time! oh, no wait ... looks like it might rain ...
ISRAEL ATTACKS GAZA!! -- yeh sure, *yawn* -- wake me up when something happens ...
Do not know what Israel is doing. But the time for a reactionary 'smackdown' of Hamas everybody expected is already passed. Every day that passes the war fades from a justified response into a routine situation.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 02:50:49 pm
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Sebastian Gorka DrG @SebGorka
So if we don’t let “refugees” into America, we’re racists.
But Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia refusing to take in “refugees” from Gaza is .. ?
10:45 AM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: DB on October 17, 2023, 02:55:33 pm
Very complicated operation that has to consider the location of the hostages, chances of rescue, civilians, etc.. They surely have contingency plans and orders drawn up, but they'll need to be massively modified before going in. It's a very urbanized environment, and that is the most difficult type of operation to conduct.
Can't just roll across the border.
And full of deadly boobytraps and embedded bombs. They had years to prepare for it.
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Post by: libertybele on October 17, 2023, 03:01:03 pm
What could possibly go wrong?? Brandon isn't capable of carrying on a conversation, let alone doing what's in the best interest of our country as well. When will he have time to nap? No teleprompter help either.
Do not know what Israel is doing. But the time for a reactionary 'smackdown' of Hamas everybody expected is already passed. Every day that passes the war fades from a justified response into a routine situation.
The iron to strike is no longer hot.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 03:26:14 pm
It is devolving from a justified response into an international 'political' situation. And yes, that is like dipping the red-hot iron in water.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 03:38:14 pm
Royal Caribbean evacuates 160 Americans by cruise ship from Israel: report
A Royal Caribbean cruise ship carrying 160 Americans and other foreign nationals out of Israel arrived at the Mediterranean island of Cyprus on Tuesday, according to a report.
The Rhapsody of the Seas departed Monday from the northern Israeli port city of Haifa and docked Tuesday morning at the island’s main port of Limassol, The Associated Press reported. The arriving passengers were met by U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus Julie Fisher.
A spokesperson for the company told FOX Business on Monday that it is "actively supporting the U.S. Department of State in the assisted departure of American citizens."
"Please go to Ben Gurion International Airport, Terminal 3 if you wish to depart Israel," reads a message on the State Department’s website. "U.S. Embassy personnel will be present to direct you and provide specific flight information. Be prepared to wait."
Naama Kopelman, whom the Associated Press reported has relatives still in Israel, possibly taken hostage by Hamas, described leaving Israel as a "big relief."
"It’s a big relief to be out of there in a safe place. No alarms, no sounds of the planes going about all the time," Kopelman said.
Fox News' Greg Norman contributed to this report. Posted by Lawrence Richard
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 03:45:47 pm
Fourteen relatives of Hamas leader killed in Israeli airstrike: report By Olivia Land
Fourteen relatives of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh were killed in an Israeli airstrike on the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, the Times of Israel reported, citing Palestinian medical sources.
Haniyeh’s brother and nephew are believed to be among the casualties, the outlet said.
Haniyeh, 61, is currently in Qatar.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 17, 2023, 03:46:43 pm
Fourteen relatives of Hamas leader killed in Israeli airstrike: report By Olivia Land
Fourteen relatives of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh were killed in an Israeli airstrike on the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood of Gaza City, the Times of Israel reported, citing Palestinian medical sources.
Haniyeh’s brother and nephew are believed to be among the casualties, the outlet said.
Haniyeh, 61, is currently in Qatar.
They need to take out Haniyeh himself.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:02:36 pm
I wish Bibi would save this for the explanation of why Israel had to win this war ---- at all costs.
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Benjamin Netanyahu: "Hamas are the new Nazis, Hamas is ISIS, and in some instances worse than ISIS."
I've been saying from the start of this: Don't talk ---- just do! I'm starting to think this has knocked Israel on her a$s --- and she's having a hard time getting up.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:21:25 pm
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JUST IN: Massive pro Palestinian protests break out in Dallas, Texas. pic.twitter.com/5attCzzjtt— Our Country Our Choice (@OCOCReport) October 17, 2023
I've been saying from the start of this: Don't talk ---- just do! I'm starting to think this has knocked Israel on her a$s --- and she's having a hard time getting up.
@Right_in_Virginia Would bet my house that the next step will be internationally brokered "negotiations". And once that nonsense begins, Israel is f**ked. - when negotiations begin, Israel has lost in the first moment that happens.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:23:41 pm
Very complicated operation that has to consider the location of the hostages, chances of rescue, civilians, etc.. They surely have contingency plans and orders drawn up, but they'll need to be massively modified before going in. It's a very urbanized environment, and that is the most difficult type of operation to conduct.
Revisit the Soleimani finale.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:24:24 pm
@Right_in_Virginia Would bet my house that the next step will be internationally brokered "negotiations". And once that nonsense begins, Israel is f**ked. - when negotiations begin, Israel has lost in the first moment that happens.
Exactly.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 04:34:19 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 5m At least six people have been killed in an Israeli air strike that hit a school run by the United Nations' Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) in Gaza's Al-Maghazi refugee camp, UNRWA posted on X social media platform.
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Post by: 240B on October 17, 2023, 04:35:17 pm
The memory of the world is short. The memory of politicians is even shorter. The memory of the press is the shortest of all.
By the time Israel gets around to invading, if that is still an option?, so much time will have passed that it will seem like they are invading for no reason. It will seem as if they have no justification for doing what they are doing. The Israeli massacre from Gaza will be long forgotten.
The world will yell, "what are you doing!? why are you doing this?" Because of the massacre. But that is history. Why can't you just get over it?
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 17, 2023, 04:37:30 pm
Many pols' "memory" span is the time between successive opinion polls.
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Post by: libertybele on October 17, 2023, 04:39:04 pm
I've been saying from the start of this: Don't talk ---- just do! I'm starting to think this has knocked Israel on her a$s --- and she's having a hard time getting up.
A good possibility -- waiting for the US $$ and help would be my guess.
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Post by: libertybele on October 17, 2023, 04:41:15 pm
@Right_in_Virginia Would bet my house that the next step will be internationally brokered "negotiations". And once that nonsense begins, Israel is f**ked. - when negotiations begin, Israel has lost in the first moment that happens.
Yes indeed. They blamed the weather at first ... now ... there are no excuses. Bibi had an 8 hour talk with Blinken, Brandon is on his way for talks. This stalling isn't a good sign.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 04:41:47 pm
The world will yell, "what are you doing!? why are you doing this?" Because of the massacre. But that is history. Why can't you just get over it?
We all saw this appeasement coming...I hope I am wrong but I don't think they will invade Gaza instead settle for the destruction of Gaza which is near complete.
Bibi is a fool to listen to Blinken, Biden and Jake Sullivan..the same three who *organized* the Afghan withdrawl.
Too bad the IDF was not up to striking when the iron was hot and these atrocities were fresh in everyone's mind.
Hezbollah/Hamas has done a great job in changing the narrative...like they always do.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 05:05:12 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:23:09 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 23m According to U.N. Officials, 15 Staff Members of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) and 5 Members of the Red Cross have been Killed in the Gaza Strip today.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:25:13 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:26:15 pm
Dozens killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza City hospital: Palestinian government By Olivia Land
Dozens have been killed and several more injured in an Israeli airstrike on the Al-Ahli Arabi Hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, CNN reported.
“A new war crime committed by the occupation in the bombing of Al-Ahli Arabi Hospital in the center of Gaza City, resulting in the arrival of dozens of martyrs and injured at Al-Shifa Medical Complex due to the bombing,” the Palestinian Health Ministry claimed in a statement.
“It should be noted that the hospital housed hundreds of patients, wounded, and displaced people from their homes forcibly due to the airstrikes,” Palestinian officials said.
The IDF has reportedly not commented on the claims.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:26:38 pm
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to visit Israel this week: report By Olivia Land
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak could visit Israel as soon as Thursday, Sky News reported.
Sunak’s Israel visit could be part of a larger tour of the region, which may also include visits to Jordan and Egypt, the outlet said.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:28:37 pm
Israel’s ‘ambitious’ Gaza campaign will take ‘several months’: foreign minister By Olivia Land
Israel’s campaign in the Gaza Strip is ‘ambitious’ – and will last several months Foreign Minister Eli Cohen said in an interview with Channel 12.
The war with Hamas "is a campaign that's going to take several months, because our goal is very ambitious,” Cohen told the outlet.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:30:06 pm
Biden threatens military action if Iran joins Israel-Hamas war: report By Olivia Land
President Biden has sent the Iranian UN representative a message warning of US military action if Iran joins the Israel-Hamas war, Haaretz reported, citing Iranian sources’ conversation with Al-Jazeera.
The missive continued “four clauses” and asked that Tehran work to quell the tension in the region, specifically around Gaza, the outlet said.
“He is making clear to our enemies that if they even imagine taking part in the offensive against the citizens of Israel, there will be American involvement here,” Israeli official Tzachi Hanegbi told Al-Jazeera of Biden’s actions.
“Israel will not be alone … A US force is here and it is ready,” he added without providing more details.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:31:53 pm
Sec. Blinken exchanges warm greeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas
Secretary of State Tony Blinken exchanged a warm greeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday.
The pair met in Amman, Jordan on Tuesday to discuss the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Blinken remained silent when reporters asked whether he was hopeful that aid would begin flowing in the near future, however.
While the U.S. has fully endorsed Israel's right to defend itself and to retaliate against Hamas terrorists, President Biden's administration has distinguished between Hamas and the Palestinian people.
Blinken smiled and shook Abbas' hand as they joked that the U.S. official should buy a house in Amman given how much time he had been spending in the region. Posted by Anders Hagstrom
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:33:12 pm
Leftist Spanish Gov’t Minister Demands Israeli PM Netanyahu Face War Crimes Charges for Retaliation Against Hamas
A member of the leftist coalition government in Spain has called for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu be brought up on war crimes charges.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 05:35:34 pm
We all saw this appeasement coming...I hope I am wrong but I don't think they will invade Gaza instead settle for the destruction of Gaza which is near complete.
Bibi is a fool to listen to Blinken, Biden and Jake Sullivan..the same three who *organized* the Afghan withdrawl.
Part of me thinks Netanyahu may be privately relieved. Interesting article from 2021 on "mowing the grass":
With strikes targeting rockets and tunnels, the Israeli tactic of ‘mowing the grass’ returns to Gaza Washington Post, May 14, 2021
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 05:35:57 pm
Now it's 500
13 minutes ago At least 500 killed in Israeli airstrike on Gaza City hospital: report By Olivia Land
At least 500 have been killed and several more injured in an Israeli airstrike on the Al-Ahli Arabi Hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, according to Reuters.
“A new war crime committed by the occupation in the bombing of Al-Ahli Arabi Hospital in the center of Gaza City, resulting in the arrival of dozens of martyrs and injured at Al-Shifa Medical Complex due to the bombing,” the Palestinian Health Ministry claimed in a statement.
“It should be noted that the hospital housed hundreds of patients, wounded, and displaced people from their homes forcibly due to the airstrikes,” Palestinian officials said.
The IDF has reportedly not commented on the claims.
Leftist Spanish Gov’t Minister Demands Israeli PM Netanyahu Face War Crimes Charges for Retaliation Against Hamas
A member of the leftist coalition government in Spain has called for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu be brought up on war crimes charges.
So ... all the 'war crimes' committed by Hamas do not count? I guess? Massacring unarmed civilians, torture, rape, kidnapping ... with Hamas all is forgiven.
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Post by: 240B on October 17, 2023, 05:56:11 pm
I think hostages are alive ---- Iran knows they're invaluable bartering chips so I'm guessing Hamas does, too.
Some of the hostages may actually be in Iran. I doubt all of the hostages are still in Gaza. At least some of them have been smuggled out to be sold to other Muslim countries.
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Post by: libertybele on October 17, 2023, 06:05:10 pm
So ... all the 'war crimes' committed by Hamas do not count? I guess? Massacring unarmed civilians, torture, rape, kidnapping ... with Hamas all is forgiven.
:dammit: 9999hair out0000
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:19:55 pm
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 52m Palestinians say the Israelis hit a hospital in Gaza where hundreds were sheltering. Source says there is a mass casualty situation. We’re gathering details now.
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 35m We’ve reached out to the Israeli military for comment. Will update.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 17, 2023, 06:21:32 pm
King Abdullah II shuts down talk of allowing Palestinians into Jordan, Egypt as ‘red line’
By Snejana Farberov Published Oct. 17, 2023
King Abdullah II of Jordan shut down the prospect of allowing Palestinian refugees fleeing northern Gaza into his country or Egypt, calling it a “red line” — amid a diplomatic campaign to establish safe zones within the besieged enclave.
Speaking at a press conference after meeting German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin Tuesday, Abdullah categorically rejected the idea of offering Gazans a free passage into neighboring countries.
“There will be no refugees in Jordan and no refugees in Egypt,” the king declared, adding that the humanitarian situation must be contained inside Gaza and the West Bank.
“That is a red line, because I think that is the plan by certain of the usual suspects to try and create de facto issues on the ground,” Abdullah added.
He was apparently referring to Israel’s calls for some 1.1 million Gazans to head south, toward the Rafah border crossing with Egypt, ahead of Israel’s impending ground offensive.
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Post by: Wingnut on October 17, 2023, 06:28:34 pm
No One wants the Pali scum in their countries. Well everyone but The guy who wears silk pantie's under his depends so his wet farts slide easier down his leg
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:32:06 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 4m A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:33:12 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 34m "I am angry with the world that allowed the dehumanization of Israelis and sanitized the terrorism of Hamas." @ADL CEO @JGreenblattADL , said in an interview on the #HamasMassacre.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 06:36:36 pm
Sincere question: Is is possible Israel doesn't know where their missiles are going?
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Israel-Hamas war: At least 500 people killed in hospital bombing in Gaza, Palestinian officials claim Sky News, Oct 17, 2023
At least 500 people have been killed in a bombing of a hospital in Gaza City, the Palestinian Health Ministry has claimed.
A spokesman for the ministry said in a statement: "Initial estimates indicate that between 200 and 300 martyrs were killed in the bombing that targeted Baptist Hospital in Gaza city."
The ministry later revised the figure to at least 500, AP and Reuters reported.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are investigating what happened at the hospital.
Israeli military spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said there were still no details on the hospital deaths, adding: "We will get the details and update the public. I don't know to say whether it was an Israeli air strike."
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared three days of mourning following the bombardment, according to state media.
Hamas released a statement following the blast calling it a "crime of genocide".
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 4m A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.
The airstrikes are having the intended effect.
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Post by: 240B on October 17, 2023, 06:38:44 pm
He is lying. Hamas will not release anyone until they get whatever 'prisoners' they want along with 10s of millions in dollars.
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Post by: Kamaji on October 17, 2023, 06:39:15 pm
Hamas killed Canadian-Israeli mom in front of her young sons, booby-trapped her body: report
By Yaron Steinbuch Published Oct. 17, 2023
A Canadian Israeli mom was murdered in front of her two young sons by Hamas terrorists — who booby-trapped her body and then used the children as human shields, according to a report.
Adi Vital-Kaploun, 33, was killed by the terrorist group on Oct. 7 in Holit, a kibbutz near the Gaza Strip, her friends told the Globe and Mail of Canada.
The terrorists killed her in front of her two sons, 4-year-old Negev and 4-month-old Eshel, while her husband and their dad, Anani, was partying with friends at another kibbutz, friend Dina Zaslacski told the outlet.
Military officials told the family that Vital-Kaploun’s body was shoved under Negev’s bed and booby-trapped so it would explode if anyone tried to move it, Zaslacski said.
“They put bombs all over her body and her dad was in the house. Thank God he didn’t open the door,” she said, tearfully.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:47:05 pm
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 12m The region is on the brink of a much larger war. Every piece of info must be critically analyzed.
Yes, I’ve seen the videos from the hospital and the ones claiming it’s a misfire.
Hamas officials tell us it was an Israeli strike. The Israelis tell us they are investigating.
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 10m Also can’t independently confirm the number of dead/injured. Reports indicate hundreds killed. Trying to confirm details. This will take time.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:47:12 pm
Israel looking into alleged hospital strike: IDF spokesperson By Olivia Land
The Israeli military is looking into reports of an alleged airstrike on a hospital in Gaza City, IDF spokesperson Rear Amd. Daniel Hagari said, according to the Times of Israel.
Hagari admitted that he did not have all the information yet, and further details would be revealed in due time, the outlet explained.
“There are a lot of airstrikes, a lot of failed rockets, and a lot of fake reports by Hamas,” he insisted.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 06:49:41 pm
Palestinian president declares three days of mourning for Gaza hospital blast By Olivia Land
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has declared a three-day mourning period following a deadly blast at a hospital in Gaza City, the BBC reported, citing Palestinian state media.
The alleged airstrike is thought to have killed as many as 500 people, many of them women and children.
Israeli officials previously said they were investigating the incident.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 06:52:05 pm
Israel looking into alleged hospital strike: IDF spokesperson By Olivia Land
The Israeli military is looking into reports of an alleged airstrike on a hospital in Gaza City, IDF spokesperson Rear Amd. Daniel Hagari said, according to the Times of Israel.
Hagari admitted that he did not have all the information yet, and further details would be revealed in due time, the outlet explained.
“There are a lot of airstrikes, a lot of failed rockets, and a lot of fake reports by Hamas,” he insisted.
Isn't Israel able to say: "We did not fire a rocket at the hospital"? Or is this a fog of war thing?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 07:07:14 pm
Hundreds reported killed in Gaza hospital explosion amid rocket barrage Rockets fired by factions in the Gaza Strip often fall short, with Palestinians killed in a number of past such incidents. By JERUSALEM POST STAFF OCTOBER 17, 2023 20:26 Updated: OCTOBER 17, 2023 21:33
Hundreds of people were reported killed in an explosion at the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday evening, the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry reported, at the same time as a barrage of rockets were fired from the Strip toward Israel.
Officials in Gaza issued contradictory statements about casualty numbers, ranging between dozens to hundreds, with video footage reportedly from the scene showing a number of cars on fire near the hospital.
The explosion was reported at the same time that heavy rocket barrages were fired from Gaza toward central Israel.
more https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-768879
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: 240B on October 17, 2023, 07:11:59 pm
Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire. My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.
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Post by: DB on October 17, 2023, 07:14:42 pm
Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire. My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.
Wouldn't be surprised if one of their rockets exploded on launch starting a chain reaction with their own munitions.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 07:36:57 pm
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 18m Hamas statement to Fox: “The hospital massacre in the Gaza Strip is a crime of genocide.”
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Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 18m We continue to receive information and review video. Will use this thread to provide updates as I get them. Also tune in. We have updates live every hour on Fox.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 07:39:58 pm
29 minutes ago President Abbas cancels planned meeting with Biden after Gaza City hospital blast By Olivia Land
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has canceled his scheduled Wednesday meeting with President Joe Biden and other Middle East leaders following news of a deadly blast at a Gaza City hospital, a senior Palestinian official said.
Abbas is apparently withdrawing in protest to the deadly incident, which Hamas claims was an Israeli airstrike, the official – who spoke on the condition of anonymity – said.
Abbas was set to sit down with Biden, King Abdullah II of Jordan and Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi at the meeting just one day after he met again with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
With Post wires
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:09:15 pm
Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire. My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.
That is one of the guesses....at least so far...
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Post by: bigheadfred on October 17, 2023, 08:09:58 pm
Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו @netanyahu
An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.
Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:10:47 pm
Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire. My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.
Most likely.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:13:33 pm
Farida Khan @_Faridakhan I am Al Jazeera Journalist Farida Khan working in Khan Younis, Gaza. I saw with my own eyes that it was Hamas "Ayyash 250" Rocket. It was Hamas misfired Rocket 🚀. Al Jazeera is lying. I have video of that Hamas missile landing in the hospita
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:14:55 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 23m Leader of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh calls on all Palestinian people to "get out and confront the occupation and the settlers". He also calls on all Arabs and Muslims to stage protests against Israel
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:16:01 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 27m UPDATE: The Israelis say a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad is to blame for the hospital explosion that killed hundreds of Palestinians
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:18:31 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:20:15 pm
Failed Islamic Jihad rocket launch caused Gaza hospital blast: IDF By David Spector
A failed Islamic Jihad rocket launch caused the blast at the Gaza Baptist hospital, an IDF investigation concluded.
“From an analysis of the IDF’s operational systems, an enemy rocket barrage was carried out towards Israel, which passed in the vicinity of the hospital, when it was hit,” the IDF said in a statement.
The IDF went on to say that several intelligence sources indicate that "the PIJ organization is responsible for the failed [rocket] fire that hit the hospital,” the Times of Israel reports.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 08:21:00 pm
Dozens of angry protesters storm Israeli embassy in Jordan By David Spector
Dozens of angry protesters stormed Israeli embassy in Jordan after Hamas accused the Jewish homeland of bombing a hospital and killing hundreds, The Times of Israel reports.
Video an angry mob swarming the embassy and attempting to force their way in.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: PeteS in CA on October 17, 2023, 08:24:01 pm
The rockets Hamas uses are not guided, and many/most are home-built. Hatred and high quality are not boon companions, nor are hatred and caring about potential down-range obstacles. So either the rocket malfunctioned or the rocket operator did not notice that hospital was in the line of fire.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 17, 2023, 08:24:02 pm
Farida Khan @_Faridakhan I am Al Jazeera Journalist Farida Khan working in Khan Younis, Gaza. I saw with my own eyes that it was Hamas "Ayyash 250" Rocket. It was Hamas misfired Rocket 🚀. Al Jazeera is lying. I have video of that Hamas missile landing in the hospita
Or maybe it wasn't a misfire by Hamas at all....After all, which side seems to be benefitting politically from that hospital being hit?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 17, 2023, 08:37:05 pm
Dozens of angry protesters storm Israeli embassy in Jordan By David Spector
Dozens of angry protesters stormed Israeli embassy in Jordan after Hamas accused the Jewish homeland of bombing a hospital and killing hundreds, The Times of Israel reports.
Video an angry mob swarming the embassy and attempting to force their way in.
An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.
Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza
I doubt it will matter --- the Hamas headlines have been reported worldwide --- and reacted to.. Netanyahu quoting the "IDF operational systems" won't be enough to overcome them.
Maybe Israel would be better off -- long term-- standing down until it figures out its goal and how to reach it. It seems she's being battered from pillar to post.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DB on October 17, 2023, 08:42:12 pm
Farida Khan claims to have video of the rocket hitting the hospital - and it wasn't Israeli... If that's true, and Farida Khan is still there, not likely to live long.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 08:54:41 pm
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Right_in_Virginia... Maybe Israel would be better off -- long term-- standing down until it figures out its goal and how to reach it.
Perhaps you have not been listening. Netanyahu has made it clear Israel's intention is the complete elimination of HAMAS. Well, the people of Gaza elected HAMAS. I see it as semantics. When he says HAMAS, he means everyone in Gaza.
Major, as I said above, Netanyahu says he will destroy all of HAMAS. Israel has warned all civilians out of Gaza. It is my contention that anyone that stays will be deemed HAMAS, and they will be killed.
If you will recall, the USA fire bombed many cities in Japan before dropping two nuclear bombs. This situation is very much like those days between the USA and Japan. I fully expect and support the total annihilation of everyone in Gaza. Egypt will have no choic but to open their border to let these undesirables into their country. I don't blame Jordan for keeping them out, for they almost overthrew his government years ago. He has zero love for Palestinians.
I say let Iran come and get them. But they must be gone, having fled to another country, or killed, every last one of them. I fully expect 1+ million to flee successfully.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: libertybele on October 17, 2023, 09:02:23 pm
Perhaps you have not been listening. Netanyahu has made it clear Israel's intention is the complete elimination of HAMAS. Well, the people of Gaza elected HAMAS. I see it as semantics. When he says HAMAS, he means everyone in Gaza.
Major, as I said above, Netanyahu says he will destroy all of HAMAS. Israel has warned all civilians out of Gaza. It is my contention that anyone that stays will be deemed HAMAS, and they will be killed.
If you will recall, the USA fire bombed many cities in Japan before dropping two nuclear bombs. This situation is very much like those days between the USA and Japan. I fully expect and support the total annihilation of everyone in Gaza. Egypt will have no choic but to open their border to let these undesirables into their country. I don't blame Jordan for keeping them out, for they almost overthrew his government years ago. He has zero love for Palestinians.
I say let Iran come and get them. But they must be gone, having fled to another country, or killed, every last one of them. I fully expect 1+ million to flee successfully.
Joe's visit isn't going to help matters; I see him fumbling and all flustered and appeasing everyone other than Bibi.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 09:02:38 pm
Someone has to answer for the failed defense by Israelis. I suspect Netanyahu will take the blame eventually.
But this attack should wake Israel up to their future. Their future is death, unless they pull their head out of their *ss and plan for a very serious war that is coming with Iran. Iran will obtain a nuclear weapon(s), and I believe they will use it within one year on Israel. When that happens, I can see Israel retaliating with a massive strike on Iran that kills most in the country, rendering it unlivable for 1,000 years. It is inevitable. That day is within the next ten years, and more likely in the next five years.
Israel fails to eliminate the lion share of the Gaza population, then these murderous barbarians will attack again, in greater numbers. Israel should not be faced with this sh*t again. This act of war must end with Gaza being eliminated as a place for anyone ever to reside again. One way of increasing the safety from these barbaric animals.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 09:02:52 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 4m A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.
Yeah, sure wiling to isn't the same as will and either way nothing they say can be trusted.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 17, 2023, 09:13:16 pm
A retired US general indicated we provide Palestinians with $250 million in aid. Abbass is refusing to meet with Wrecking Ball Joe. I say end all money headed to the Palestinians from the USA. This is insane, the US giving these murderous barbarians money.
The USA was also providing about $160 million in aid to Russia. Are we still aiding them too? If so, this is insane what this country is doing. We need to purge all in government today and elect people with the mindset of representing USA citizens.
The time has come when America First is not enough. It must be USA ONLY for five or ten years until we gain control of our budget.
30 Americans dead in the Israel attack by the murderous Palestinians. 15+ known missing. This is one of the worst terrorists acts against Americans let alone what they did to the Israelis.
Israel cannot protect their own people and POTUS is flying there tomorrow? Publicized to be there, if the mussies launch 1,000 rockets at the location of where POTUS is supposed to be, what happens if they kill Biden? Seriously, what happens?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 17, 2023, 09:19:51 pm
240b wrote: "Do not know what Israel is doing. But the time for a reactionary 'smackdown' of Hamas everybody expected is already passed. Every day that passes the war fades from a justified response into a routine situation."
And RinVa replied: "The iron to strike is no longer hot."
What may be cooling that "iron" was nothing less than... ... "Jewish guilt".
Israel is great at "self-defense" on their own soil. But when it comes to being ruthless against their enemies -- particularly where attacks will impact civilian populations -- they are much more... hesitant.
They know that since WW2 and their treatment by the Germans that they wear a "cloak of moral superiority" over those who would attack them.
To respond with equal (but necessary) brutality would result in the loss of that moral "shield".
Hence, their unwillingness to do so.
They should take Winston Churchill to mind: “Sometimes doing your best is not good enough. Sometimes you must do what is required.”
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 17, 2023, 09:43:17 pm
PeteS observes: "The rockets Hamas uses are not guided, and many/most are home-built. Hatred and high quality are not boon companions, nor are hatred and caring about potential down-range obstacles. So either the rocket malfunctioned or the rocket operator did not notice that hospital was in the line of fire."
Don't know about you folks, but I'm sittin' here almost amused that the palis could wipe out a hospital with one of their own missiles.
Sorry if you don't like this post.
Aside: Even though it's obvious who did it, this is going to impact Israeli plans to invade.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 09:59:48 pm
When it comes to being ruthless against their enemies -- particularly where attacks will impact civilian populations -- they are much more... hesitant.
They know that since WW2 and their treatment by the Germans that they wear a "cloak of moral superiority" over those who would attack them.
To respond with equal (but necessary) brutality would result in the loss of that moral "shield".
Agree.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: corbe on October 17, 2023, 10:07:31 pm
I'm not feeling the Israeli Love with that one, RiV. Is it because Netanyahu congratulated Biteme?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:07:51 pm
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unusual_whales @unusual_whales
Jordan's foreign minister says the summit between Palestine and Egyptian leaders with Biden in Amman on Wednesday is cancelled, per the Economist.
5:32 PM · Oct 17, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:08:34 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2023, 10:17:06 pm
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 @RepMTG Biden wants $100 billion in aid for Ukraine and Israel. I will vote NO.
Biden wants to bring in millions of Palestinian refugees. I will vote NO.
Biden refuses to secure America’s border and lets in millions and we are $33 trillion in debt.
Biden is America last! 5:19 PM · Oct 17, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:19:45 pm
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Netanyahu proclaims an "Axis of Evil" that the entire world must unite to defeat, just as it united to defeat the Nazis. Which would seem to indicate Israel is preparing for a war not just against Hamas, but also Iran, and expects USA/Europe to join this "battle of civilization"
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: corbe on October 17, 2023, 10:21:11 pm
Most all of your posts in this Thread @Right_in_Virginia You seem all too eager to blame Israel. I assume it's the reason I stated, he wasn't on board with the Trump 'It was stolen from ME shitshow' from the very beginning.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:24:19 pm
Most all of your posts in this Thread @Right_in_Virginia You seem all too eager to blame Israel. I assume it's the reason I stated, he wasn't on board with the Trump 'It was stolen from ME shitshow' from the very beginning.
Please take your silliness to another thread @corbe
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:26:28 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 38m Initial Reports that Rioters in the Lebanese Capital of Beirut are attempting to reach the U.S. Embassy but that they are being prevented by the Lebanese Army and Police.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 32m With how many U.S. Navy Assets are currently in the Eastern Mediterranean right now, I doubt that Staff at the Embassy in Beirut are at all Worried.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 17, 2023, 10:26:58 pm
Yep. And you can bet many of those 'humanitarian' trucks will be loaded with rockets, ATMs, and other explosives. Biden is a fool. Netanyahu thinks by getting him there, he will see the truth of what is going on and will decide to back Israel fully. But Biden will never see it, continuing instead to believe he knows more than anyone else.
Triple axle van-type trailers 'squatting' hard, you know the loads are heavy.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:28:58 pm
3 minutes ago White House reveals why Biden canceled meeting with Egypt, Jordan, Palestine By Elizabeth Karpen
Following the attack on a hospital in Gaza City which reportedly killed hundreds, the summit between Joe Biden, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Amman, Jordan was cancelled.
The White House released a statement saying that the meeting will be postponed after Abbas announced days of mourning and will be rescheduled to a later date while Biden is in the Middle East.
"After consulting with King Abdullah II of Jordan and in light of the days of mourning announced by President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, President Biden will postpone his travel to Jordan and the planned meeting with these two leaders and President Sisi of Egypt.
"The President sent his deepest condolences for the innocent lives lost in the hospital explosion in Gaza, and wished a speedy recovery to the wounded. He looks forward to consulting in person with these leaders soon, and agreed to remain regularly and directly engaged with each of them over the coming days," the White House said. NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:29:10 pm
27 minutes ago Jordan cancels summit with Biden, Egypt and Palestine By Elizabeth Karpen
The Jordanian government canceled its meeting between Joe Biden, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Amman, Jordan Wednesday, Reuters reported that Jordan’s foreign minister said.
The cancellation comes as Abbas announced that he would not be attending the meeting Tuesday afternoon following an attack on a hospital in Gaza City, which killed hundreds.
"After consulting with King Abdullah II of Jordan and in light of the days of mourning announced by President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, President Biden will postpone his travel to Jordan and the planned meeting with these two leaders and President Sisi of Egypt. The President sent his deepest condolences for the innocent lives lost in the hospital explosion in Gaza, and wished a speedy recovery to the wounded. He looks forward to consulting in person with these leaders soon, and agreed to remain regularly and directly engaged with each of them over the coming days," the White House said in a statement.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2023, 10:30:52 pm
Oli London @OliLondonTV 500 people have died after the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital was hit by a rocket and exploded in Gaza.
Israel’s Defence Force IDF says the explosion at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in northern Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launch by Hamas.
Palestinian authorities however dispute the claim that it was a misfired rocket. Instead they have claimed it was an Israeli air strike.
Live video from Al Jazeera Arabic earlier tonight shows a rocket being fired from within Palestinian territory and hitting the hospital.
The IDF has said it is investigating the incident while the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has called for 3 days of public mourning.
Around 350 wounded have been rushed to Gaza City’s al-Shifa hospital after the blast.
Turkey, Iran, Jordan, Qatar and the World Health Organisation claimed the bombing was an ‘attack’- blaming the Israeli air-force. The Israeli Foreign Ministry have also blamed a Hamas misfired rocket for the attack. ...
More at: https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1714388537028604145
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Post by: Smokin Joe on October 17, 2023, 10:34:35 pm
They are both on my "Not only no but Hell no!" list. @PeteS in CA
:beer:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:36:32 pm
John Kirby shares Biden's plans and goals for his trip to Israel, Jordan By Elizabeth Karpen
National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby shared a video to X discussing President Joe Biden's plans and goals for his trip to Israel, which he will leave for Tuesday night.
Biden will be stopping in Tel Aviv, Israel and Amman, Jordan to discuss how important it is for the U.S. and its allies to support Israel in its fight against Hamas.
"We'll also send a strong signal of deterrence to any other actors in the region that might try to widen or deepen the conflict," Kirby said.
So, in order to get funding for Israel we have to send money to Ukraine.
Eisenhower was right.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:37:30 pm
Iran warns of ‘another shockwave’ on Israel if Gaza strikes don’t stop By Emily Crane
A top Iranian commander warned Israel on Tuesday it will face “another shockwave” of attacks by militant groups if the country doesn’t halt its relentless bombardment of Gaza.
Iran’s Revolutionary Guards deputy commander-in-chief, Ali Fadavi, made the chilling threat after an attack on a refugee camp took out a top Hamas commander.
“The resistance front’s shocks against the Zionist regime will continue until this ‘cancerous tumor’ is eradicated from the world map,” Fadavi said, according to Iranian news agency Fars.
Meanwhile, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, blamed the US for Israel’s retaliatory strikes on the enclave — as he called the assault a “genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.”
“Our numerous intelligence reports show that the US is formulating the Zionist regime’s current policy and what is being done is governed by US policymaking. The US must be held responsible for this situation,” Khamenei said in a speech posted on X.
READ MORE https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/iran-warns-of-another-shockwave-on-israel-if-it-doesnt-stop-gaza-strikes/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:38:56 pm
37 minutes ago Jordan cancels summit with Biden, Egypt and Palestine By Elizabeth Karpen
The Jordanian government canceled its meeting between Joe Biden, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Amman, Jordan Wednesday, Reuters reported that Jordan’s foreign minister said.
The cancellation comes as Abbas announced that he would not be attending the meeting Tuesday afternoon following an attack on a hospital in Gaza City, which killed hundreds.
"After consulting with King Abdullah II of Jordan and in light of the days of mourning announced by President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, President Biden will postpone his travel to Jordan and the planned meeting with these two leaders and President Sisi of Egypt. The President sent his deepest condolences for the innocent lives lost in the hospital explosion in Gaza, and wished a speedy recovery to the wounded. He looks forward to consulting in person with these leaders soon, and agreed to remain regularly and directly engaged with each of them over the coming days," the White House said in a statement.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2023, 10:39:30 pm
Nadav Pollak @NadavPollak Wow. According to the IDF spokesperson it was PIJ rocket that hit the hospital. This is very specific. I guess there is concrete intelligence that indicates it was the PIJ #Gaza #Hospital
Noah Rothman @NoahCRothman The wheels are already in motion. Riots in the streets. Embassies at risk of being stormed. Western journalists desperate to return to a comfort zone blame Isarel, and Western gov’ts sensitive to their media follow suit. It’s all happened before and it’s happening again. 3:45 PM · Oct 17, 2023
Day Job @DayJobPundit Just so ppl understand the mentality of western liberal hamas apologists- If Hamas' rocket hadn't fallen short and hit their own hospital, but hit its intended target–say an Israeli hospital–they would not condemn it, but would call for ceasefire & chide Israel about retaliating 3:52 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 10:40:00 pm
Many pols' "memory" span is the time between successive opinion polls.
Or bribes...
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:46:48 pm
No worries ---- I'm sure Joe's got this. 😏
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Yashair Ali @yashar
Hezbollah, which is funded and controlled by the Islamic Republic’s Supreme Leader, has issued the following statement:
“Let tomorrow, Wednesday, be a day of unprecedented anger against the enemy and its crimes and against Biden’s visit to the Zionist entity to cover and protect this criminal entity. And let the message be clear that this is a day that comes after it on the path of resistance, victory, and retaliation for the oppressed from the oppressor.”
5:02 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 10:47:45 pm
A retired US general indicated we provide Palestinians with $250 million in aid. Abbass is refusing to meet with Wrecking Ball Joe. I say end all money headed to the Palestinians from the USA. This is insane, the US giving these murderous barbarians money.
The USA was also providing about $160 million in aid to Russia. Are we still aiding them too? If so, this is insane what this country is doing. We need to purge all in government today and elect people with the mindset of representing USA citizens.
The time has come when America First is not enough. It must be USA ONLY for five or ten years until we gain control of our budget.
30 Americans dead in the Israel attack by the murderous Palestinians. 15+ known missing. This is one of the worst terrorists acts against Americans let alone what they did to the Israelis.
Israel cannot protect their own people and POTUS is flying there tomorrow? Publicized to be there, if the mussies launch 1,000 rockets at the location of where POTUS is supposed to be, what happens if they kill Biden? Seriously, what happens?
Agreed; otherwise too many nations have the mindset that the USA will always write them a blank check.
What happens if they take Joe out? Not likely IMHO he's part of the evilness that keeps prevailing -- they aren't going to touch him.
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Post by: bigheadfred on October 17, 2023, 10:55:11 pm
Here's hoping an air raid siren goes off and Joe thinks it is the ice cream truck.
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Post by: Wingnut on October 17, 2023, 10:55:25 pm
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Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2023, 10:56:12 pm
Avi Mayer אבי מאיר @AviMayer Whoa: Israeli media is reporting that the IDF has a recording of a conversation between Islamic Jihad terrorists confirming that they launched the rocket that hit the Gaza hospital. It will reportedly be released shortly. 6:36 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: Elderberry on October 17, 2023, 10:58:54 pm
Israel in Talks with SpaceX for Starlink During Gaza War
Tesla North by Alex Diaz 10/17/2023
Israel’s Communications Ministry announced on Tuesday that it is in discussions with SpaceX to deploy Starlink internet services.
The move aims to bolster wartime communications as Israel prepares for a possible ground invasion in the Gaza Strip. This development comes in the wake of a deadly cross-border invasion on October 7, which resulted in the deaths of more than 1,400 Israelis, primarily civilians.
According to a spokesperson for Israel’s Communications Ministry, the Starlink services would ensure uninterrupted internet access for towns on the front lines. This would mark the first time Israel has relied on Starlink, which would serve as a backup if other systems are disrupted, reports Bloomberg.
The ministry is also contemplating the disconnection of internet and phone services to Gaza. Additionally, it confirmed plans to close the Israel offices of the Qatari state-owned news network Al-Jazeera, accusing it of serving as a platform for “Hamas propaganda, incitement, and harm to national security during wartime.”
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 11:03:40 pm
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Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC
Large fire burns at US Embassy compound in Beirut, Lebanon.
6:36 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:06:45 pm
Russia, UAE call for UN Security Council meeting on Gaza hospital bombing By Elizabeth Karpen
Russia and the United Arab Emirates called for a United Nations Security Council meeting on the Gaza hospital bombing that took place Tuesday.
According to Russia's U.N. deputy, Dmitry Polyansky, the meeting of the security council was expected to take place Wednesday afternoon.
The meeting will be "in connection with the attack on a hospital in Gaza," Polyansky said.
Yesterday, Russia drafted an unsuccessful U.N. Security Council resolution the country claimed was calling for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Countries ripped Russia for its proposal not mentioning nor condemning Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:08:10 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 10m So far the Governments of Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and Qatar have all Blamed the Israeli Air Force for the Explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 10m Hmmm I wonder what all of these Countries have in Common, it wouldn’t be an Intense Hatred for Jews and Israel would it?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:08:35 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 19m There is not a Large Fire at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut despite Fake Images and Claims going around on X.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:09:05 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:11:19 pm
So there is not 500 dead....Hamas's propaganda war...they now have riots at US and Israeli embassies in the ME
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 11:15:03 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
The Rocket which Misfired over Northern Gaza is now reported by the IDF to have landed in the Parking Lot of Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital not on its Roof like was initially believed.
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Emily Rose @emilyarielrose
IDF is now showing us drone footage it says is of Gaza hospital post explosion. Footage shows hospital was not directly hit. Hit was in the parking lot, according to IDF images.
6:37 PM · Oct 17, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:15:49 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:42:50 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender The President of the United States, Joe Biden has stated that he is Outraged and Deeply Saddend by the Explosion earlier tonight at Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital in Northern Gaza and that immediately following the Explosion he held a Phone Call with both Abdullah II King of Jordan, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu; he further stated that he has instructed his National Security Team to gather Intelligence related to the Incident to find out what happened.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2023, 11:45:56 pm
I hope our embassies have enough Marine guards....Good thing we have a carrier group nearby..
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 17, 2023, 11:50:47 pm
Olaf Scholz’s plane evacuated on runway following rocket attack in Israel Politico EU, Oct 18, 2023
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s plane had to be evacuated at Israel’s Ben Gurion Airport on Tuesday evening due to rocket attacks.
Pictures and videos posted on social media show how aides and journalists traveling with the German leader had to hastily leave the plane and take cover by lying down on the runway, while Scholz was reportedly evacuated to a shelter.
“I personally saw explosions in the sky as the Israeli Iron Dome [air defense system] intercepted two missiles,” Robin Alexander, deputy editor-in-chief of German daily Welt, which, like POLITICO, is owned by Axel Springer, wrote on X, formerly Twitter, referring to rockets intercepted by the Iron Dome.
Scholz and those flying with him were able to board the plane a few minutes later, following an additional security check, according to Bild.
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Post by: libertybele on October 18, 2023, 12:05:34 am
Netanyahu says Hamas 'the new Nazis,' calls on world to unite and defeat terrorist group
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while speaking alongside German Chancellor Olaf Scholz at a news conference on Tuesday, described Hamas as "the new Nazis," and called on the world to unite and eradicate the terrorist organization the same way it defeated the Nazis.
Hamas-led forces crossed the Israel-Gaza border Oct. 7, slaughtering 1,400 Israeli men, women, children and elderly in what has become the deadliest terror attack in Israel’s history.
"The savagery we witnessed perpetrated by the Hamas murderers coming out of Gaza were the worst crimes committed against Jews since the Holocaust," Netanyahu said during the news conference.................
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 12:07:12 am
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21 min ago CNBC
Biden’s meeting with the leaders of Jordan, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority called off
President Joe Biden will no longer visit Jordan as part of his Middle East trip this week, after a leaders summit on humanitarian aid for Palestinians was abruptly canceled Tuesday.
The decision was made as unrest across the region swelled, in response to the deadly bombing of a hospital in Gaza.
Biden had been scheduled to meet in with Jordan’s King Abdullah, Egyptian president Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, and Palestinian Authority president Mahmound Abbas after first visiting Israel.
“There is no use in talking now about anything except stopping the war,” Jordanian foreign minister Ayman Safadi said on state television.
The bombing of the al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City Tuesday killed hundreds of people and escalated the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.
“I am outraged and deeply saddened by the explosion at the Al Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza, and the terrible loss of life that resulted, Biden said in statement Tuesday.
“The United States stands unequivocally for the protection of civilian life during conflict and we mourn the patients, medical staff and other innocents killed or wounded in this tragedy,” he added.
I hope our embassies have enough Marine guards....Good thing we have a carrier group nearby..
I hope so too and hopefully the carrier group is already there.
By the size of the mobs and the mobs around the globe things aren't looking to good for Israel. This is a wake up call for me as I had expected more support for Israel considering Hamas attacking first and kidnapping, butchering and raping Israelis. Somehow that is all forgotten. It sickens me.
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Post by: libertybele on October 18, 2023, 12:19:54 am
Mike Engleman🇺🇲 @RealHickory · 39m We're living the Book of Revelations in the Bible.
My thoughts, too.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 12:43:53 am
OSINTdefender reposted Intelschizo @Schizointel Fact check Hamas does possess the capability. The R160 rocket has a 331lb warhead. The R160 has several warhead types: High Explosive Anti-Personal Armor Piercing
R160 range 150-180km Maximum flight speed mach 4.2-5.2
The R160 is based on the Syrian M302 which is derived from the Chinese WS-1B rocket.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 12:45:21 am
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Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 01:53:53 am
Flashback to 2014 Shifa Hospital in Gaza City ‘Has Become a De Facto Headquarters for Hamas Leaders, Who Can Be Seen in Hallways and Offices’
Joshua Levitt | JULY 21, 2014
Contrary to international rules of warfare, Hamas has commandeered a large hospital in Gaza City as its “de facto headquarters,” the Washington Post reported (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/while-israel-held-its-fire-the-militant-group-hamas-did-not/2014/07/15/116fd3d7-3c0f-4413-94a9-2ab16af1445d_story.html).
Buried eight paragraphs in, The Post‘s correspondent, William Booth, wrote on July 15:
“At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority’s health minister, who represents the crumbling ‘unity government’ in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.” . . .
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 02:04:45 am
If Hamas uses hospitals and mosques to hide behind, it all must be destroyed. All of it. Time has come to face reality for Israel. Either they vanquish their enemies, or their enemies vanquish them. There is no gray area, and f*** all those that condemn Israel for defending itself and destroying evil enemies.
The only message Biden should deliver is that we stand with Israel and anyone further that attack them risks the full might of the USA military.
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Post by: Sighlass on October 18, 2023, 04:59:10 am
:bkmk:
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Post by: cato potatoe on October 18, 2023, 11:56:33 am
This may be a dumb question, but what will stop Hamas from moving south and hiding behind civilians? They have to know what will happen if they engage the IDF in Gaza City.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 12:38:56 pm
@Right_in_Virginia Would bet my house that the next step will be internationally brokered "negotiations". And once that nonsense begins, Israel is f**ked. - when negotiations begin, Israel has lost in the first moment that happens.
This is what happens when 51 percent of the politicians all over the alleged "free world" are whores for rent to the highest bidder.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 12:56:42 pm
Biden: Gaza Hospital Blast ‘Appears as Though It Was Done by the Other Team’ and Not Israel
President Joe Biden opened his visit to Israel on Wednesday vowing to show the world the U.S. stands alongside the Jewish people in their fight against Hamas terrorists while assessing the deadly explosion at a Gaza Strip hospital as appearing to have been carried out “by the other team” and not the Israeli military.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 12:59:11 pm
CNN’s Gotkine: Media Coverage Blaming Israel Means It Won’t Matter if Israel Proves Its Innocence in Hospital Blast
Ian Hanchett 18 Oct 2023
On Tuesday’s “CNN Newsroom,” CNN Journalist Elliott Gotkine said that even if Israel is able to prove that the explosion at a Gaza hospital wasn’t caused by an Israeli strike, but rather by a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket, it won’t matter because “the world has already seen the initial headlines that came out saying — even if it was attributing to Palestinian officials in the Gaza strip, which, of course, is run by Hamas — saying that was an IDF strike.”
Gotkine stated that while Israel is set to present evidence that the explosion was caused by a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket, “to your point about whether this matters, I think, first of all, the world has already seen the initial headlines that came out saying — even if it was attributing to Palestinian officials in the Gaza strip, which, of course, is run by Hamas — saying that was an IDF strike. And I think as far as Palestinians are concerned, as far as the Arab street is concerned, it really doesn’t matter what the Israelis or the Americans come out and say right now, because they will simply be seeing these images of possibly hundreds of people being killed in a strike on the hospital. They will automatically be blaming Israel, whether it was the Israelis or whether it wasn’t. And they will also be — by definition, they will also be blaming the Americans for supporting the Israelis in its war with Hamas.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:01:04 pm
Angry Mobs Target American, Israeli Outposts Throughout Middle East
Angry mobs throughout the Middle East and North Africa targeted Israeli, American, French, and other Western embassies on Tuesday night.
Frances Martel 17 Oct 2023
Angry mobs throughout the Middle East and North Africa targeted Israeli, American, French, and other Western embassies on Tuesday night.
Footage of the protests shows mobs setting fires and prompting widespread use of tear gas by riot police in protests responding to the mass killing of hundreds in a Gaza hospital reportedly caused by a misfired Palestinian jihadist rocket.
Hundreds — estimates range from 200 to 500 — of people were killed after a bomb fell over the Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday. Local authorities, controlled by the jihadist terrorist organization Hamas, immediately blamed the Israeli government for the killings, describing the bombing as alleged retaliation for the mass murder of civilians by Hamas terrorists on Israeli territory on October 7. The Israeli government denied the accusations and claimed to have evidence that the rocket that landed on the hospital belonged to an Iranian-backed terrorist organization with ties to Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The Israeli Foreign Ministry also unearthed video of a broadcast by the Qatari-backed news outlet Al Jazeera appearing to show a rocket misfiring at the same time that the strike on the Ahli Baptist Hospital occurred.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/17/angry-mobs-target-american-israeli-outposts-middle-east/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:02:16 pm
Solidarity? White House Vows ‘Tough Questions’ for Netanyahu; Wants ‘Zero’ Civilian Casualties
John Kirby, the White House’s National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications, told reporters aboard Air Force Once en route to Israel on Tuesday evening that President Joe Biden would have “tough questions” for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when they met Wednesday morning.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/17/solidarity-white-house-vows-tough-questions-for-netanyahu-wants-zero-civilian-casualties/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:05:40 pm
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Post by: Kamaji on October 18, 2023, 01:12:49 pm
Audio of 2 Hamas fighters discussing the rocket that hit the hospital and where it was fired from (Hamas operatives fired it from a cemetery behind the hospital).
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:21:57 pm
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr The leaders of the countries surrounding Israel are all backing out of a planned meeting with Joe Biden. Under democrat leadership the President of The United States doesn’t command the authority to get a meeting. It’s hard to believe how far we’ve fallen… till you watch Biden in action and then it all makes perfect sense.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 01:22:27 pm
@Right_in_Virginia Would bet my house that the next step will be internationally brokered "negotiations". And once that nonsense begins, Israel is f**ked. - when negotiations begin, Israel has lost in the first moment that happens.
Why would Israel be exempt from what is happening to the rest of the world?
The REAL irony here is the western "leaders" are as giddy as schoolgirls about pimping out their countries,thinking that THEY are going to be senior officials in the "New World Order" when the dust settles,and as such privileged members of the new Global Leadership.
Ain't gonna happen. They will have proven themselves to traitors and whores for profit,so WTH would Global Leadership,Inc trust them when they are PROVEN self-serving backstabbers?
Chances are not only will ALL their wealth be seized,but they will be the first ones put to death.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 01:27:09 pm
Biden: Gaza Hospital Blast ‘Appears as Though It Was Done by the Other Team’ and Not Israel
President Joe Biden opened his visit to Israel on Wednesday vowing to show the world the U.S. stands alongside the Jewish people in their fight against Hamas terrorists while assessing the deadly explosion at a Gaza Strip hospital as appearing to have been carried out “by the other team” and not the Israeli military.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:27:43 pm
John Hayward @Doc_0 · 55m How about a round of applause for the DNC Media and Democrat politicians who uncritically amplified Hamas propaganda, spreading a story that has already caused violent riots and will probably get people killed?
Pro tip, kids: assume the rapists and baby-murderers are LYING.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 01:29:48 pm
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr The leaders of the countries surrounding Israel are all backing out of a planned meeting with Joe Biden. Under democrat leadership the President of The United States doesn’t command the authority to get a meeting. It’s hard to believe how far we’ve fallen… till you watch Biden in action and then it all makes perfect sense.
Respect for Biden? Hell, even Bibi couldn't put on a tie.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:36:02 pm
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 01:38:02 pm
A word from Putin from China----
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"The US just moved 2 aviation strike groups into the Mediterranean Sea. I want to say, this is not a threat, but on my behalf of the Air Force, we are starting patrols in the neutral zone."
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:38:31 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu has given “His Word” to U.S. President Biden that he will do everything he can to Protect the Lives of Civilians during the War with Hamas.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:39:04 pm
Team? His choice of words made me wince as well. This isn't a football or baseball game but a WAR. He should have directly named "Hamas" rather than used the word "team". We'll be lucky if that's the worst of his blunders.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:47:26 pm
UN Secretary-General calls for ceasefire in Israel as lives 'hang in the balance' By Nicholas McEntyre
The United Nations' Secretary-General called for a "humanitarian ceasefire" between Hamas and Israel following the deadly airstrike on a Gaza City hospital.
"I call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in the Middle East to ease the epic human suffering," António Guterres said Wednesday morning on X. "Too many lives - and the fate of the entire region - hang in the balance."
Hamas and Israel have blamed each other for the attack.
Hamas called the blast a "horrific massacre" while Israeli officials claim a faulty rocket launched by the terrorist group struck the hospital.
"I am horrified by the killing of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in a strike on a hospital in Gaza today, which I strongly condemn," Guterres said Tuesday.
"My heart is with the families of the victims. Hospitals and medical personnel are protected under international humanitarian law."
NYPost
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Post by: PeteS in CA on October 18, 2023, 01:48:11 pm
Will Pelosiroo tell Tlaib and Omar that an Arab Pali rocket hit the hospital, not the Israelis, and to STFU?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 01:49:16 pm
UN Secretary-General calls for ceasefire in Israel as lives 'hang in the balance' By Nicholas McEntyre
The United Nations' Secretary-General called for a "humanitarian ceasefire" between Hamas and Israel following the deadly airstrike on a Gaza City hospital.
"I call for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in the Middle East to ease the epic human suffering," António Guterres said Wednesday morning on X. "Too many lives - and the fate of the entire region - hang in the balance."
Hamas and Israel have blamed each other for the attack.
Hamas called the blast a "horrific massacre" while Israeli officials claim a faulty rocket launched by the terrorist group struck the hospital.
"I am horrified by the killing of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in a strike on a hospital in Gaza today, which I strongly condemn," Guterres said Tuesday.
"My heart is with the families of the victims. Hospitals and medical personnel are protected under international humanitarian law."
NYPost
This is the blatant hypocrisy of Muslims and Islam on display. If the same thing happened to an Israeli hospital with the same or more casualties, Muslims all over the world would be dancing in the streets and celebrating.
Israel did not bomb the hospital. Hamas did. There is more than enough recorded proof of this.
However, according to Muslim rules of war if Israel had bombed the hospital, it would be a "Great Victory" for them according to Islam. When the enemies of Islam play by Islamic rules of war, Muslims all over the world scream and cry like babies. According to the koran, if Muslims believe the rocket was fired on purpose, they should congratulate Israel like they would congratulate themselves for doing the same thing to Tel Aviv.
But it does not matter since Israel had nothing to do with it.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:09:21 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:11:23 pm
Gunther Eagleman™ @GuntherEagleman · 7m After watching Joe Biden's remarks in Israel this morning, I have to say he is an embarrassment to the world...!
Iran is laughing at us right now.
Biden is speaking again right now...please stop and go home... :thud:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:12:41 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:19:50 pm
This speech is terrible...he's barely audible, squinting to see the teleprompter...just mumbling his way through it...
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 02:20:27 pm
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This is just sad. Biden tries to quote a line Blinken apparently wrote for him years ago when he was in the Senate, but realizes he can't remember it and gives up
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Post by: 240B on October 18, 2023, 02:26:32 pm
Sad. Biden is a pathetic old man. Better to stay at home and be thought of as a fool, than to come to Israel in the middle of a war and remove all doubt.
*WWIII IS STILL BETTER THAN ELECTING TRUMP!!*
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:27:03 pm
This is just sad. Biden tries to quote a line Blinken apparently wrote for him years ago when he was in the Senate, but realizes he can't remember it and gives up
Joe Biden: “I asked the secretary of state when he and I were working in the Senate to write something for me and he said he wrote a line.. He said, 'It's not we lead, it's not just...' Well, I won't go into it, I'll wait 'til later, taking too much time”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:31:33 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:35:52 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 7m According several U.S. Defense Officials, they now believe to have Direct Evidence that it was a Misfired-Rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad which Destroyed the Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital in the Northern Gaza Strip last night.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:36:48 pm
Just counted the zeros and changed the "billions". :laugh:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:43:16 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 12m US vetoes UN Security Council action on Israel, Gaza
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:43:57 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 31m Israel will refuse to allow any humanitarian aid from its territory to the Gaza Strip as long as hostages are still kept captive by Hamas, a senior Israeli official stated on Wednesday.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 02:44:30 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 35m US, Israeli embassies in Argentina evacuated following bomb threat
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Post by: libertybele on October 18, 2023, 02:45:19 pm
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Post by: DB on October 18, 2023, 03:11:19 pm
Is there any actual evidence "the hospital was destroyed" killing hundreds of people???
Or is it just more Hamas propaganda? The parking lot isn't the hospital.
And the double standard is extreme. Hamas and crew are shooting thousands of unguided missiles into Israel hitting whatever they hit. Home, schools, hospitals, whatever. And there is zero international accountability for them doing that. While Israel gets blamed for every "civilian" in Gaza that the Palestinians parade around as a war crime.
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Post by: deb on October 18, 2023, 03:12:11 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:25:47 pm
Riot police crack down on protest outside US embassy in Lebanon
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:31:06 pm
Biden announces $100M in aid for Gaza and West Bank By Samuel Chamberlain
"I am announcing $100 million of new US funding for humanitarian assistance in both Gaza and the West Bank. This money will support more than 1 million displaced and conflict-affected Palestinians, including emergency needs in Gaza," President Joe Biden said in remarks delivered in the Jewish homeland as the war with Hamas rages on.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:37:17 pm
Biden announces $100M in aid for Gaza and West Bank By Samuel Chamberlain
"I am announcing $100 million of new US funding for humanitarian assistance in both Gaza and the West Bank. This money will support more than 1 million displaced and conflict-affected Palestinians, including emergency needs in Gaza," President Joe Biden said in remarks delivered in the Jewish homeland as the war with Hamas rages on.
What makes a person "conflict-affected"? That sounds like a weasel word designed to drive all manner of illicit cargo through.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:49:16 pm
Biden has left Israel and heading back to DC
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Post by: mountaineer on October 18, 2023, 03:51:30 pm
President Biden @POTUS I just announced $100 million for humanitarian assistance in Gaza and the West Bank. This money will support over 1 million displaced and conflict-affected Palestinians. And we will have mechanisms in place so this aid reaches those in need – not Hamas or terrorist groups. 11:06 AM · Oct 18, 2023
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: Just put Kamala in charge of making sure it goes to the right place. She's incredibly competent.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:52:20 pm
James Woods @RealJamesWoods His cognitive abilities are crippled beyond dispute, and to belittle that is unfair. However, BEFORE his dementia was palpable, he was a horrible human being and a crooked worthless political hack. That ugly person is still under there somewhere, and he’s at the helm of the most powerful nation on earth.
We are minutes from the end on the Doomsday Clock with this soulless fool in charge. He has GOT to go. Literally the fate of mankind is at stake.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 03:55:34 pm
Among the litter of guns, korans, and maps discarded by the Hamas terrorists whose bodies lie alongside bullet-riddled vehicles and dusty roads are green Gaza IDs with work permits. Normally residents of the Hamas territory can’t enter Israel, but work permits allowed over 20,000 Gazans to enter Israel. When some returned, it was as Hamas rapists and killers.
The Hamas invasion succeeded so well because the terrorists had an intimate knowledge of the communities they were targeting because they had worked there or had intelligence from those who had worked there. The attackers had detailed maps and building layouts. One woman whose husband and son were murdered said that the Hamas terrorists knew the names of the people, how many children they had and even which of them owned dogs.
Last year, Secretary of State Blinken addressed a J Street even and told the anti-Israel lobby that the Biden administration had pushed Israel to “improve the lives of Palestinians” by, among other things, “issuing thousands of work permits for Palestinians in Gaza”.
The number of exits from Gaza into Israel rose sharply under the Biden administration and the left-wing Bennett-Lapid government which handed out an unprecedented number of work permits.
In 2021, there had been a total of only 7,500 exits a month from Gaza, but by July 2022, there had been 35,370 exits.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 04:03:38 pm
Here's what really happened. Biden stopped in Cairo first where he was fed all the disinformation that Egypt wanted delivered to Israel. Once he got to Israel, he told the Israelis that Egypt considered Israel's military superiority as a major deterrent against an Arab attack.
Here is an excerpt from a story printed in the Times of Israel:
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Channel 13’s Nadav Eyal has now provided excerpts from a classified memo of the meeting made by a senior Israeli official who was in attendance.
The unnamed official said Biden told Meir that during meetings in Cairo prior to his arrival in Israel, officials there assured him they accept “Israel’s military superiority.”
Golda Meir smokes a cigarette during an interview. (Kan Archive) Biden warned that Israel’s actions in the territories it had captured during the Six Day War, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, were leading to “creeping annexation.”
Since he believed Israel was militarily dominant in the region, he suggested the Jewish state might initiate a first step for peace through unilateral withdrawals from areas with no strategic importance.
The official said Biden criticized the Nixon administration for being “dragged by Israel,” complaining that it was impossible to have a real debate in the Senate about the Middle East as senators were fearful of saying things unpopular with Jewish voters.
In essence, Biden is bragging about a trip where he was used as a tool by the Arab states to keep Israel off guard before the Yom Kippur attack. This is what he highlights as the crown achievement of fifty years of foreign policy experience.
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Post by: 240B on October 18, 2023, 04:04:01 pm
I remember 50 years ago, during the Yom Kippur war. I was in Israel sitting beside Golda Meir. I said that I am ready to do anything to help Israel in this terrible time. I volunteered to wear a uniform and pick up a rifle if that is what was needed.
She stood up from her desk on the ... I think it was marble floor. She looked at me and said, "I love you Joe Biden. And all of Israel will be forever in your debt for everything you have done to help us win this war." Then she hugged me, with tears in her eyes.
After all that was over and the war was won, I immediately flew to South Africa to help free Nelson Mandela. But I won't go into that now. It would take too much time ... I will say that I got arrested and thrown in jail down there, but that is a different story.
Hands go up and all the reporters are yelling, "grampa Joe!, grampa Joe!, tell us the one about how you helped Audie Murphy capture all those Germans ... tell us that one!"
The man is a legend in his own mind.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 04:14:29 pm
President Biden @POTUS I just announced $100 million for humanitarian assistance in Gaza and the West Bank. This money will support over 1 million displaced and conflict-affected Palestinians. And we will have mechanisms in place so this aid reaches those in need – not Hamas or terrorist groups. 11:06 AM · Oct 18, 2023
Just put Kamala in charge of making sure it goes to the right place. She's incredibly competent.
The degree of economic ignorance here is astounding. Let's say that the Hamas government has a budget of $200 million. Half ($100 million) goes towards humanitarian causes and the other half goes towards rockets and missiles. If you hand Hamas an extra $100 million to cover humanitarian costs, then that frees up the $100 million they already had dedicated for that and allows them to divert that money towards rockets and missiles.
The entire Biden regime is filled with fools who are ignorant of the fact that money is fungible.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 04:16:06 pm
I remember 50 years ago, during the Yom Kippur war. I was in Israel sitting beside Golda Meir. I said that I am ready to do anything to help Israel in this terrible time. I volunteered to wear a uniform and pick up a rifle if that is what was needed.
She stood up from her desk on the ... I think it was marble floor. She looked at me and said, "I love you Joe Biden. And all of Israel will be forever in your debt for everything you have done to help us win this war." Then she hugged me, with tears in her eyes.
After all that was over and the war was won, I immediately flew to South Africa to help free Nelson Mandela. But I won't go into that now. It would take too much time ... I will say that I got arrested and thrown in jail down there, but that is a different story.
Hands go up and all the reporters are yelling, "grampa Joe!, grampa Joe!, tell us the one about how you helped Audie Murphy capture all those Germans ... tell us that one!"
The man is a legend in his own mind.
Nice summation.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 04:17:16 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 18m An Israeli Drone has Struck a Mortar Site in Southern Lebanon while IDF Artillery is continuing to Pound a number of Hezbollah Positions who have launched Anti-Tank Guided Missile at Israeli Troops within the last hour.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 18, 2023, 04:18:03 pm
The degree of economic ignorance here is astounding. Let's say that the Hamas government has a budget of $200 million. Half ($100 million) goes towards humanitarian causes and the other half goes towards rockets and missiles. If you hand Hamas an extra $100 million to cover humanitarian costs, then that frees up the $100 million they already had dedicated for that and allows them to divert that money towards rockets and missiles.
The entire Biden regime is filled with fools who are ignorant of the fact that money is fungible.
Exactly.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 04:21:31 pm
James Woods @RealJamesWoods How embarrassing that this flickering dim bulb sits with a real world leader and reads 5x7 note cards written by some genders studies major interning at the White House? Couldn’t he have done this on a zoom call from his basement?
That's one thing you can say about Trump. He never needed any note cards. Trump could walk right into the lion's den and tell you what's on his mind.
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Post by: 240B on October 18, 2023, 04:28:22 pm
Obviously what I wrote is sarcasm but on a serious note, I don't think any rational person can deny that Biden is well past his expiration date. The man is not well. Even if he was convicted of any of the dozens of serious felonies we know he committed (some he has even bragged about publicly), Biden would never be sent to prison.
He would get an age waiver. What good would it do to send Biden to jail if he does not know where he is or what is going on anyway? It would be a waste of time.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 18, 2023, 04:31:20 pm
Obviously what I wrote is sarcasm but on a serious note, I don't think any rational person can deny that Biden is well past his expiration date. The man is not well. Even if he was convicted of any of the dozens of serious felonies we know he committed (some he has even bragged about publicly), Biden would never be sent to prison.
He would get an age waiver. What good would it do to send Biden to jail if he does not know where he is or what is going on anyway? It would be a waste of time.
Broadcast media says that the courts are going to retrieve all the ill-gotten millions Joe Biden grifted, leaving his family destitute.
You'll see how quickly he'll regain his mobility. This is all an act.
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Post by: Timber Rattler on October 18, 2023, 04:31:27 pm
Twitter Account Embarrasses Journalists By Performing Actual Journalism in Gaza Hospital Explosion
Sadly no. I would feel better if it was an act. But no. Biden's mental issues are all too real. Biden is not capable of that level of acting. If he is faking, he should get an Oscar. Because he is fooling everybody in the entire world.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 18, 2023, 04:45:54 pm
Sadly no. I would feel better if it was an act. But no. Biden's mental issues are all too real. Biden is not capable of that level of acting. If he is faking, he should get an Oscar. Because he is fooling everybody in the entire world.
Of course.
Don't know why they didn't just knock him the hell out so he could sleep the entire flight over there.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 05:15:57 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 05:19:40 pm
US embassy in Lebanon says staff and facilities safe amid riots
The U.S. embassy in Lebanon said its staff and facilities "remain secure and undamaged" after riots broke out during a pro-Palestinian protest in Beirut.
"We are aware of protests this afternoon in Awkar in the vicinity of the U.S. Embassy," said embassy spokesperson Jake Nelson. "Unfortunately, violent protesters damaged private property in the surrounding neighborhood of the embassy, but embassy personnel and facilities remain secure and undamaged."
The Embassy thanked Lebanese security forces for working to secure the area after rioters holding Palestinian flags took down a security wall and cut a barbed wire barrier on a road leading to the embassy. Riot police lobbed dozens of teargas canisters and fired water cannons to disperse the protesters in the intense standoff, the Associated Press reported.
"As noted in the U.S. travel advisory for Lebanon, U.S. citizens should avoid demonstrations and exercise caution if in the vicinity of any large gatherings or protests, as some of these have turned violent," the Embassy said. Posted by Chris Pandolfo Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 05:21:15 pm
'Bargaining chips:' Famed UK special forces unit offers help to find Hamas hostages, report says President Biden on Wednesday said he had 'no higher priority' than rescuing the hostages By Peter Aitken Fox News Published October 18, 2023 12:56pm EDT
Multiple international partners, including the United Kingdom, stand ready to assist Israeli forces to rescue hostages taken by Hamas during its terrorist attack on Oct. 7 and used as "bargaining chips," according to a report.
"The way that Hamas is holding the hostages looks like they’ve scattered them over the territory of Gaza very widely," said Justin Crump, a military veteran and chief executive of security and intelligence group Sibylline. He argued that Western nations with strong special forces capabilities should "help to get their citizens back."
At least 4,200 people have been killed since Hamas launched thousands of missiles into Israel last week, including at least 1,400 Israeli civilians and soldiers and 31 Americans. Palestinian health authorities say at least 2,808 Palestinians have been killed and more than 10,950 wounded.
President Biden visited Israel on Wednesday and addressed reporters, saying that "as the American president, there is no higher priority than the release and safe return of all these hostages."
more https://www.foxnews.com/world/bargaining-chips-famed-uk-special-forces-unit-offers-help-find-hamas-hostages-report-says
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 05:25:17 pm
We now have video of the scene showing the explosion is from the parking lot and the buildings are in tact. There is no crater, no building demolished. This is inconsistent with the type of bomb many were suggesting yesterday.
Wow, those Israelis are such badasses. They intentionally missed the hospital in order to hit the 500 Palestinians standing tightly gathered together in the parking lot.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 05:28:38 pm
This is the blatant hypocrisy of Muslims and Islam on display. If the same thing happened to an Israeli hospital with the same or more casualties, Muslims all over the world would be dancing in the streets and celebrating.
Israel did not bomb the hospital. Hamas did. There is more than enough recorded proof of this.
However, according to Muslim rules of war if Israel had bombed the hospital, it would be a "Great Victory" for them according to Islam. When the enemies of Islam play by Islamic rules of war, Muslims all over the world scream and cry like babies. According to the koran, if Muslims believe the rocket was fired on purpose, they should congratulate Israel like they would congratulate themselves for doing the same thing to Tel Aviv.
But it does not matter since Israel had nothing to do with it.
And in the PC atmosphere of today,NOBODY has the stones to stand up and declare Islam to be a religion of evil that must be eliminated.
And it's hard to blame them for it.
After all,what is the solution,other that to declare war on Islam all over the world,and do our best to wipe them out?
Yeah,good luck getting THAT "boat to float".
While you are pondering this,you MIGHT want to ponder WHY it SEEMS to be politically acceptable for the followers of Islam to declare ALL other religions to be evil that needs to be eliminated.
Who was it that first said "We has met the enemy,and he is us!"?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 05:41:17 pm
Sadly no. I would feel better if it was an act. But no. Biden's mental issues are all too real. Biden is not capable of that level of acting. If he is faking, he should get an Oscar. Because he is fooling everybody in the entire world.
And we’re paying a price for his cognitive decline and his inability to accept the crashing of the world around him
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Post by: LMAO on October 18, 2023, 05:59:18 pm
Byron Donalds @ByronDonalds · 1h · Joe Biden just said he was in Israel as a U.S. Senator right before the Six Day War.
Another PROVABLE lie by our president.
Joe, you became a Senator in 1973, and the Six Day War was in 1967. Why lie?
In Biden's defense, he probably at this point really believes this story
He’s probably convinced his declining mind that he was at Christ’s crucifixion
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 06:08:40 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 39m I reached out to the U.S. embassy to get an exact number of American passport holders still in Gaza. They declined to provide that information.
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · Follow I’ve been speaking with American citizens stuck in Gaza. One woman tells me she’s tried four times to cross the border into Egypt. There are hundreds of U.S. citizens trapped in Gaza, I’m told.
Not to worry. The US State Dept will get right on it as soon as they are finished evacuating Americans from Afghanistan.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 06:57:01 pm
The degree of economic ignorance here is astounding. Let's say that the Hamas government has a budget of $200 million. Half ($100 million) goes towards humanitarian causes and the other half goes towards rockets and missiles. If you hand Hamas an extra $100 million to cover humanitarian costs, then that frees up the $100 million they already had dedicated for that and allows them to divert that money towards rockets and missiles.
The entire Biden regime is filled with fools who are ignorant of the fact that money is fungible.
:amen:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 07:31:12 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 07:40:18 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Liz Friden @Liz_Friden · 1h NEW: The U.S. shot down three more one-way kamikaze drones in Iraq on Wednesday, a defense official tells Fox News. Two were in the West and one was in Northern Iraq near Erbil. No U.S. forces were injured, the defense official said.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 07:40:42 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 07:42:14 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 58m The Israeli War Cabinet reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a Meeting that they have now completed their preparations for an Invasion of the Gaza Strip and that a Ground Operation is now “Imminent.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 07:44:11 pm
And we’re paying a price for his cognitive decline and his inability to accept the crashing of the world around him
True. Biden cannot accept reality because he does not know what reality is. The people surrounding him protect and shield him from the real world. In Biden's mind the border is closed, the economy is better than it has ever been, and he is physically and mentally all set to run for another term.
I am sure Biden is "not allowed" to watch the news alone. If he does, as he says it, he will 'get in trouble'.
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Post by: DB on October 18, 2023, 08:36:37 pm
Biden is not running the executive office. He's just a bobblehead doing what he's told and fails at even doing that.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 08:37:12 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 58m The Israeli War Cabinet reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a Meeting that they have now completed their preparations for an Invasion of the Gaza Strip and that a Ground Operation is now “Imminent.”
Right after the US delegation confirmed all US assets are in place ....
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 08:50:07 pm
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NOW - Pro-Palestine crowd inside and outside the U.S. Capitol.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 08:51:35 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC U.S. Embassy spox in Beirut: “We are aware of protests in Awkar in the vicinity of the U.S. Embassy. Unfortunately, violent protesters damaged private property in the surrounding neighborhood of the embassy, but embassy personnel and facilities remain secure and undamaged.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 08:53:17 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 08:54:06 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 10m U.S. President Biden stated once he arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany that the President of Egypt, Abdel Fattah El-Sisi has now Approved for 20 Trucks of Humanitarian Supplies to enter the Gaza Strip from the Rafah Border Crossing.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 08:54:34 pm
OSINTdefender reposted ELINT News @ELINTNews · 18m What comes next?
-Likely an IDF ground invasion within the coming hours/days into northern Gaza, with heavy fighting there -Possibly large-scale Hezbollah attacks from Lebanon into northern Israel as the ground offensive happens -Possible attacks from Syrian territory and beyond
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 08:58:30 pm
OSINTdefender reposted Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian @manniefabian · 1h 5 IDF soldiers, 13 Hezbollah, 3 Hamas, and 2 Islamic Jihad members have been killed in the recent Lebanon border exchanges. 1 Israeli civilian was killed in a Hezbollah attack; 2 Lebanese civilians and a journalist were reported killed by Israeli shelling.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 09:00:45 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender IDF Homefront Command has announced that they have now Established a Plan to Evacuate all Towns and Cities in Northern Israel that are within 5km from the Border with Lebanon, they had previously announced a Plan to Evacuate only up to 2km but this has now been Increased and Approved by the Minister of Defense.
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Post by: Hoodat on October 18, 2023, 09:01:26 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 10m U.S. President Biden stated once he arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany that the President of Egypt, Abdel Fattah El-Sisi has now Approved for 20 Trucks of Humanitarian Supplies to enter the Gaza Strip from the Rafah Border Crossing.
Did Biden also negotiate that when the gates are opened for those truck to pass into Gaza, that the Americans trapped in Gaza would be allowed to leave?
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 09:14:16 pm
POTUS will address the nation tomorrow night at 8pm et
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 09:21:45 pm
888mouth
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Demonstrators arrested for demanding Israeli ceasefire inside US Capitol.
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2023, 09:27:34 pm
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"We mourn the dead, and fight like hell for the living!” chant the protesters demanding an Israeli ceasefire in the United States Capitol as police arrest them one by one.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 10:13:07 pm
Biden indicating there may not be an attack into Gaza by Israel is literally him having told them not to move into Gaza. Great ally he is.
Israel needs to wreck 1 million times more destruction upon Gaza before they stop. If they allow the barbarians to remain in Gaza, they will be attacked again and again, with worse consequences each time.
They must totally vanquish the Palestinians in Gaza. That means kill them all, every last one of them. These barbarians brought it upon themselves.
And if Egypt continues to refuse to allow foreign nationals to escape from the southern border of Gaza, then the USA must end their billions of aid to Egypt. Egypt receives as much aid from the USA as does Israel.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:19:27 pm
Biden says he received no pushback during Israel visit, believes Gaza hospital blast was not Israel
President Biden said he got “no pushback” from Israeli leaders about his pledge to give $100 million in humanitarian aid for the people of Gaza and the West Bank and other matters.
“I got no pushback,” Biden told reporters while at Ramstein Air Base in Germany following his visit to Israel. “Virtually none.”
Biden spent Wednesday in Israel where he spoke with Israeli leaders and announced a $100 million pledge in humanitarian aid to assist the people of Gaza and the West Bank.
He added that reports that U.S. troops would back Israeli forces if Israel is attacked by Hezbollah, a Lebanon-based terrorist group, were false.
The president also said he was confident in Defense Department intelligence that determined an explosion at a Hamas-run hospital on Tuesday was the work of terrorists, not Israel.
The explosion occurred at the al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, which Hamas said was the result of an Israeli airstrike. The news was met with condemnation across the Arab world and prompted the cancelation of a four-way summit between Biden and regional leaders in Jordan.
Israel determined the explosion was the result of a rocket misfire in Gaza by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist group.
“Our Defense Department says it’s highly unlikely that (it was) the Israelis,” Biden said. “I’m not saying Hamas deliberately did it either. It’s that old thing, you got to learn how to shoot straight.”
“It’s not the first time Hamas has launched something that didn’t function,” he added. Posted by Louis Casiano Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:24:47 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 27m Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a War Cabinet Meeting that the Operation in Gaza to Dismantle Hamas could possibly take Years.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 10:31:05 pm
Anything less than total annihilation in Gaza results in a tea and crumpets response by Israel. These words tell me they have already failed, and have guaranteed their people future attacks even worse than what took place last week.
Netanyahu is NOT the leader he once was. I suppose it will take a nuclear weapon detonating on Israeli soil for Israel's leader to pull his head out of his posterior.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:31:47 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender According to multiple Israeli Officials, during a Closed Door Meeting earlier today between U.S. President, Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu it is claimed that President Biden gave Netanyahu his Personal Blessing and a “Direct Green Light” for the Invasion of the Gaza Strip.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:35:50 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:36:34 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 43m UK Prime Minister @RishiSunak will arrive in #Israel on Thursday as part of a two-day visit to the Middle East.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 18, 2023, 10:40:08 pm
story here https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/heartbreaking-moment-israeli-teen-lays-to-rest-entire-family-killed-by-hamas/
Wonder how much it would cost for a contingent of us Texans to conduct a feral hog round up and collect, and package the butchered hogs, send them to Israel, so they can wrap the Hamas KIA in pig entrails?
I'm game.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 10:43:31 pm
That young man in the video above, I would imagine he is no longer among the living.
The time has come for Israel to take the gloves off and destroy everything in Gaza. I would bomb every building, leveling the entire country before marching Israeli troops into Gaza. The time has come to end the notion of proportionality. Only one solution, the total vanquishing of the people of Gaza.
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Post by: Bigun on October 18, 2023, 11:00:44 pm
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 11:10:57 pm
Biden announced giving HAMAS $100 million for the West Bank and Gaza for humanitarian aid. The Biden Idiocracy is fully supporting the terrorists in my eyes.
God help Israel!
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Post by: libertybele on October 18, 2023, 11:17:03 pm
Biden announced giving HAMAS $100 million for the West Bank and Gaza for humanitarian aid. The Biden Idiocracy is fully supporting the terrorists in my eyes.
God help Israel!
Exactly -- it sure doesn't seem to me that he's standing behind Israel at all; in words only.
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Post by: sneakypete on October 18, 2023, 11:19:02 pm
Biden announced giving HAMAS $100 million for the West Bank and Gaza for humanitarian aid. The Biden Idiocracy is fully supporting the terrorists in my eyes.
Biden is not running the executive office. He's just a bobblehead doing what he's told and fails at even doing that.
Speaking of which, did anyone watch the full interview with Scott Pelley and Biden on "60 Minutes?'
Watch it and remind yourself this man is in charge while multiple crisis's, both foreign and domestic, unfold
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Post by: corbe on October 18, 2023, 11:30:40 pm
PA to immediately reward families of Oct. 7 terrorists with nearly $3 million
The "pay-for-slay" stipends will continue for the rest of their relatives' lives.
(October 17, 2023 / JNS)
The Palestinian Authority will pay nearly $3 million to the families of slain Hamas terrorists who slaughtered civilians in Gaza border communities on Oct. 7, Palestinian Media Watch reports.
The corpses of 1,500 Hamas terrorists were found after the massacre in which more than 1,400 Israelis were killed and more than 4,100 others were wounded. At least 199 captives were taken back to Gaza.
Under P.A. law, every Palestinian terrorist who is killed attacking Israelis is classified as a “martyr” and the family is rewarded with a 6,000 shekel ($1,511) grant and a monthly stipend of 1,400 shekel ($353) for life.
The Israel-based NGO and media watchdog estimates that each family will receive 7,400 shekels for the first month—11.1 million shekels ($2,789,430) in total to the families of the Hamas terrorists killed in the attack that began on Oct. 7.
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Post by: jafo2010 on October 18, 2023, 11:34:00 pm
And I am certain the USA is helping fund that reparation for murderers. I say the USA is the largest supporter in the world of terror. We sure give them enough money!!! Now, Biden's Idiocracy is giving $100 million more as announced today!
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Post by: LMAO on October 18, 2023, 11:34:35 pm
PA to immediately reward families of Oct. 7 terrorists with nearly $3 million
The "pay-for-slay" stipends will continue for the rest of their relatives' lives.
(October 17, 2023 / JNS)
The Palestinian Authority will pay nearly $3 million to the families of slain Hamas terrorists who slaughtered civilians in Gaza border communities on Oct. 7, Palestinian Media Watch reports.
The corpses of 1,500 Hamas terrorists were found after the massacre in which more than 1,400 Israelis were killed and more than 4,100 others were wounded. At least 199 captives were taken back to Gaza.
Under P.A. law, every Palestinian terrorist who is killed attacking Israelis is classified as a “martyr” and the family is rewarded with a 6,000 shekel ($1,511) grant and a monthly stipend of 1,400 shekel ($353) for life.
The Israel-based NGO and media watchdog estimates that each family will receive 7,400 shekels for the first month—11.1 million shekels ($2,789,430) in total to the families of the Hamas terrorists killed in the attack that began on Oct. 7.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 12:03:28 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 11m According to Al-Jazeera, the Israeli Defense Force reportedly carried out an Airstike in Southern Syria tonight which resulted in the Destruction of a Hezbollah Military Convoy.
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Post by: Sighlass on October 19, 2023, 12:05:02 am
Israeli tanks equipped with anti-drone cages ahead of Gaza invasion
Israeli tanks amassing outside Gaza ahead of a potential ground invasion have been equipped with anti-drone "cages", similar to those used in the Russia-Ukraine War, according to analysis from The Washington Post.
The Post shared images showing Israeli vehicles with modified coverings whose purpose is to protect soldiers inside from any explosives dropped from drones.
Video footage from the Hamas attacks on October 7, showed how the terrorist group used drones to drop explosives on Israeli communication installations, helping to prevent a rapid response from the IDF.
The drones, which appeared to be commercial drones easily available for purchase, have led to fears that this relatively simple method of attack could be adopted by other insurgent groups around the world.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 12:43:05 am
Israeli family of 5, slain in each others’ arms by Hamas, is laid to rest Aviv, Livnat, Rotem, Yonatan and Yiftach Kotz of Kfar Aza were found huddled on bed in their home, where terrorists murdered them; burned body of 5-year-old victim found in Be’ri By Agencies and ToI Staff
An Israeli family of five whose bodies were discovered in each other’s arms after they were killed by Hamas terrorists during a devastating onslaught earlier this month, were buried together in a funeral attended by hundreds of mourners.
more https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-family-of-5-slain-in-each-others-arms-by-hamas-is-laid-to-rest/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 12:45:13 am
Police chief to Arab Israelis: ‘You want to support Gaza, I’ll put you on a bus there’ Kobi Shabtai says there will be ‘zero tolerance’ for pro-Hamas demonstrations, as police break up unauthorized rally in Haifa in support of Gaza
more https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-chief-to-arab-israelis-you-want-to-support-gaza-ill-put-you-on-a-bus-there/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:03:10 am
Biden says Palestinians ‘gotta learn how to shoot straight’ after hospital blast that killed about 500 people By Steven Nelson Published Oct. 18, 2023, 6:43 p.m. ET
President Biden told reporters Wednesday that Palestinian terrorists have “gotta learn how to shoot straight” — one day after an explosion outside a hospital in the Gaza Strip.
“I’m not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it,” the president said at Ramstein Air Base in Germany en route back to Washington after visiting Israel earlier in the day.
“It’s that old thing: Gotta learn how to shoot straight,” Biden went on.
“It’s not the first time that Hamas has launched something that didn’t function very well.”
Hamas, which rules Gaza, claimed Tuesday that an Israeli airstrike killed about 500 people at the hospital — sparking riots across the Middle East and forcing Biden to scrap a planned summit with Arab leaders in Amman, Jordan — but the White House said Wednesday it had determined the explosion was caused by a misfire on the Palestinian side.
The Israeli government on Tuesday night blamed the Hamas-allied group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, publishing intercepted phone calls and other evidence to support the claim.
“I don’t know all the detail, but I do know the people at the Defense Department who I respect and the intelligence community that I respect, say it is highly improbable that Israel did that,” Biden said on Air Force One.
video at link https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/biden-says-palestinians-gotta-learn-how-to-shoot-straight-after-hospital-blast-that-killed-about-500-people/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost
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Post by: LMAO on October 19, 2023, 01:04:15 am
Biden says Palestinians ‘gotta learn how to shoot straight’ after hospital blast that killed about 500 people By Steven Nelson Published Oct. 18, 2023, 6:43 p.m. ET
President Biden told reporters Wednesday that Palestinian terrorists have “gotta learn how to shoot straight” — one day after an explosion outside a hospital in the Gaza Strip.
“I’m not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it,” the president said at Ramstein Air Base in Germany en route back to Washington after visiting Israel earlier in the day.
“It’s that old thing: Gotta learn how to shoot straight,” Biden went on.
“It’s not the first time that Hamas has launched something that didn’t function very well.”
Hamas, which rules Gaza, claimed Tuesday that an Israeli airstrike killed about 500 people at the hospital — sparking riots across the Middle East and forcing Biden to scrap a planned summit with Arab leaders in Amman, Jordan — but the White House said Wednesday it had determined the explosion was caused by a misfire on the Palestinian side.
The Israeli government on Tuesday night blamed the Hamas-allied group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, publishing intercepted phone calls and other evidence to support the claim.
“I don’t know all the detail, but I do know the people at the Defense Department who I respect and the intelligence community that I respect, say it is highly improbable that Israel did that,” Biden said on Air Force One.
video at link https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/biden-says-palestinians-gotta-learn-how-to-shoot-straight-after-hospital-blast-that-killed-about-500-people/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost
Lol
Oh. we are in such good hands...lol
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Post by: Sighlass on October 19, 2023, 01:39:01 am
Biden says Palestinians ‘gotta learn how to shoot straight’ after hospital blast that killed about 500 people
It is a lead pipe with some propellant and a primitive tnt ball bearings fashioned from a water pipe and a nail head to ignite it. It don't take much to make them lose their aim. A bird, a strong wind gust.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 19, 2023, 01:44:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAFDI63yvNQ
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 02:13:05 am
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 27m Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a War Cabinet Meeting that the Operation in Gaza to Dismantle Hamas could possibly take Years.
Did he say why?
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Post by: DB on October 19, 2023, 02:20:22 am
Gaza is a city of 2 million people, if Israel vetted a thousand Palestinians a day it would take 2,000 days to process them all.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 02:44:07 am
Gaza is a city of 2 million people, if Israel vetted a thousand Palestinians a day it would take 2,000 days to process them all.
I doubt Israel needs to vet two million Gazans. Israel needs to find the Hamas leadership and each of their next two in line and kill them --- let's see how that goes.
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Post by: catfish1957 on October 19, 2023, 03:58:12 am
Now...if the RANGERS can make it 3-0 tonight.... :yowsa:
Max Who? :cool:
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Post by: bigheadfred on October 19, 2023, 12:15:43 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 16m The U.S. State Department has now urged all American Nationals in Lebanon to prepare to Immediately Depart the Country
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on October 19, 2023, 12:49:36 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 16m The U.S. State Department has now urged all American Nationals in Lebanon to prepare to Immediately Depart the Country
This just gets more worrisome. While the weaponry in/from Lebanon is more sophisticated than that of Hamas, the country's economy is very weak. No telling how this could go.
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Post by: DCPatriot on October 19, 2023, 12:53:49 pm
This just gets more worrisome. While the weaponry in/from Lebanon is more sophisticated than that of Hamas, the country's economy is very weak. No telling how this could go.
Long as I've been alive, Israel always had the element of "surprise" when engaged in warfare.
Before they'll allow "IRON DOME" to be neutralized, a helluva lot of Lebanese and Gazans will be homeless ...or dead.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:08:21 pm
IDF: Our Statements on Hamas Beheading Babies Got More Skepticism than Hamas’ Lie Blaming Us for Hospital Blast
Ian Hanchett 18 Oct 2023
On Wednesday’s “CNN This Morning,” IDF Spokesman Doron Spielman noted the extreme skepticism Israeli claims that Hamas terrorists decapitated babies during its attack on Israel received and contrasted it with the readiness with which Hamas’ claims that Israel was responsible for the blast at a Gaza hospital was accepted.
Spielman stated, “We also can confirm by the audio conversation between the two Hamas operatives that they’re saying, one is saying to the other, it was fired by Islamic Jihad in a cemetery behind the hospital, and the other one was asking, are you sure? He says, yes, and it landed on top of the hospital. Meaning, take Israel out of the picture, you have Al Jazeera footage, you have Hamas operatives discussing this. We know from our own radar the trajectory of the rocket. This was a Hamas and Islamic Jihad rocket. What I don’t understand is, when it comes to Israel, and we claim that babies were beheaded and bodies were mutilated, the whole world asks us to prove this. We have to go to enormous strides to prove [this]. … [W]hen Islamic Jihad bombs their own citizens, people take this without any proof whatsoever. The double standard here is incredibly upsetting for us on the Israel side.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:09:22 pm
Stelter: Media ‘Atrocious Series of Mistakes’ on Gaza Hospital Bombing ‘Actually Did Harm’
Former CNN chief media correspondent Brian Stelter said Wednesday on NewsNation’s “Dan Abrams Live” that the media made an “atrocious series of mistakes” while covering this week’s bombing of a Gaza hospital.
more https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/18/stelter-media-atrocious-series-of-mistakes-on-gaza-hospital-bombing-actually-did-harm/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:15:47 pm
Trey Yingst reposted Fox News @FoxNews · 1h WARNING - GRAPHIC VIDEO: Amid chaos and terror, @TreyYingst shares miraculous story where brother of Fox News engineer survived after his Israel home was set on fire by Hamas terrorists.
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Post by: mountaineer on October 19, 2023, 01:17:41 pm
Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal 🚨 JUST IN: Captagon Drug Found on Bodies of Hamas Members
- Captagon, a drug used by Hamas members, has been discovered on the bodies of Hamas members and prisoners. - Also known as "cocaine for the poor," Captagon is believed to enable Hamas members to carry out their acts with composure and indifference. - The drug is reportedly produced in Lebanon and Syria, and extremist Salafist elements, including ISIS, have been known to use it.
Source: Channel 12 News 8:01 AM · Oct 19, 2023 --------------------- GT𝕏Media @GTX_Media Captagon, also known by its chemical name fenethylline, is a synthetic drug that is chemically similar to both amphetamine and theophylline. It was originally developed in the 1960s as a combination of amphetamine and theophylline, which is a stimulant found in tea and some asthma medications.
Captagon gained notoriety for its stimulant effects, including increased alertness, energy, and euphoria. It was initially prescribed to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), narcolepsy, and depression. However, due to its potential for abuse and addictive properties, it was eventually banned in most countries.
In recent years, Captagon has become associated with illegal production and trafficking in certain regions, particularly in the Middle East. Some reports suggest that illicit production of Captagon may involve using alternative substances, as the original fenethylline formula is now illegal.
It's important to note that the production, possession, and use of Captagon outside of approved medical contexts is illegal and can have serious health and legal consequences. This substance is considered a controlled substance in many countries due to its potential for misuse and harm. 8:15 AM · Oct 19, 2023
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:27:04 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 30m Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant told IDF Soldiers today along the Southern Front, “Stay Ready. The Order will soon be Issued.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:28:59 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h A Rocket launched from the Gaza Strip seen falling into the Ocean off the Coast of Tel Aviv earlier today.
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Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 19, 2023, 01:31:23 pm
Horrifying after horrifying videos of the initial raid. Not sure if Hamas thought that something like this would rally people to their cause or not. Maybe they're just animals? Not even the Nazis did blatant stuff like this in full view of the world.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 01:39:19 pm
Hezbollah says it's 'thousands of times stronger' than before, warns US, Israel: report Crowds reportedly chant ‘Death to America and Israel’ during rally near Beirut Greg Norman By Greg Norman Fox News Published October 19, 2023 7:18am EDT
A Hezbollah official is warning that the Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group is "thousands of times stronger" than before, and that U.S., Israel and other "malicious Europeans" should be careful, reports say.
The comments were made Wednesday by senior Hezbollah official Hashem Safieddine during a rally in a suburb of Beirut, where protesters also waved Hezbollah and Palestinian flags and chanted "Death to America and Israel," according to The Guardian.
"The response to the mistake you might make with our resistance will be resounding," Safieddine also was quoted by Reuters as saying. "Because what we have is faith, and God is stronger than you, all your battleships, and all your weapons."
The fiery remarks came on the same day President Biden visited Israel and cautioned other countries from becoming involved in the Israel-Hamas war.
more https://www.foxnews.com/world/hezbollah-thousands-times-stronger-warns-us-israel-report
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Post by: Kamaji on October 19, 2023, 01:43:48 pm
Hezbollah says it's 'thousands of times stronger' than before, warns US, Israel: report Crowds reportedly chant ‘Death to America and Israel’ during rally near Beirut Greg Norman By Greg Norman Fox News Published October 19, 2023 7:18am EDT
A Hezbollah official is warning that the Iranian-backed Lebanese militant group is "thousands of times stronger" than before, and that U.S., Israel and other "malicious Europeans" should be careful, reports say.
The comments were made Wednesday by senior Hezbollah official Hashem Safieddine during a rally in a suburb of Beirut, where protesters also waved Hezbollah and Palestinian flags and chanted "Death to America and Israel," according to The Guardian.
"The response to the mistake you might make with our resistance will be resounding," Safieddine also was quoted by Reuters as saying. "Because what we have is faith, and God is stronger than you, all your battleships, and all your weapons."
The fiery remarks came on the same day President Biden visited Israel and cautioned other countries from becoming involved in the Israel-Hamas war.
more https://www.foxnews.com/world/hezbollah-thousands-times-stronger-warns-us-israel-report
:mauslaff:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:06:25 pm
Drones targeted US base in Syria, defense official says By Fox News
A U.S. defense official told Fox News that one-way drones targeted al-Tanf, a US base in Syria on Wednesday, the same day as the attempted drone attacks in Iraq. Al-Tanf is on Syria's border with Iraq.
It is unclear how many drones and if there are any injuries or damage to the base.
On Wednesday, the US intercepted two one-way attack drones targeting Iraq's al-Asad air base where American troops are located, two defense officials confirmed to Fox News.
The incident happened early Wednesday morning local time and no injuries were reported.
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:08:00 pm
Israeli air strike kills senior Hamas leader and family members: Hamas media By Reuters
GAZA – An Israeli strike killed the head of the Hamas-led national security forces, Jehad Mheisen, and members of his family in their house, a Hamas-aligned news agency said on Thursday.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:09:33 pm
Chilling new image shows terrorist with Israeli woman who cooked for them to escape hostage nightmare By Yaron Steinbuch
A chilling new image has emerged of an Israeli grandmother being held by a Hamas terrorist in her bullet-riddled home – where she cooked for her captors and engaged them in small talk until she was rescued by her cop son.
Rachel Edri is seen with the terrorist at a table inside her shot-up home in Ofakim, located some 25 miles from Gaza, during apparent negotiations with Israeli police.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 58m The Israeli War Cabinet reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a Meeting that they have now completed their preparations for an Invasion of the Gaza Strip and that a Ground Operation is now “Imminent.”
I've been hearing this every day for almost two weeks. I think Israel has a different definition of the word "Imminent" than the rest of the world. In Israel imminent means, some time in the near future whenever we feel like it.
"Imminent" = T - when it feel right
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Post by: Wingnut on October 19, 2023, 02:21:08 pm
Quote
Rachel Edri is seen with the (soon to be a very dead terrorist) at a table inside her shot-up home in Ofakim, located some 25 miles from Gaza, during apparent negotiations with Israeli police.
A feel good story at a time when there are so few outcomes like this.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:37:46 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:38:18 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 3m According to the Israeli Defense Force, 20 Rockets were Detected earlier having been launched from Southern Lebanon towards Northwestern Israel and in Response the IDF Destroyed the Launch Sites with Artillery.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:38:49 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 17m The Egyptian Government is Demanding a “6-Hour Ceasefire” in Southern Gaza to allow the Transfer of Humanitarian Aid into the Strip from the Rafah Border Crossing, they are also asking for a Pledge from Israel to not Attack the Trucks carrying Aid “Under any Circumstances.”
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:40:01 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 16m The U.S. State Department has now urged all American Nationals in Lebanon to prepare to Immediately Depart the Country
Does the US have an immediate way to get them all out??
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:43:05 pm
Sure doesn't sound like the ground war is *imminent*... :shrug:
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Israeli Media is reporting that some of the roughly 360,000 IDF Reservists that were Called-Up to Active Service following the Hamas Surprise Attack have begun to be Released Home to their Families, but have been told to prepare for Immediate Reactivation in the coming Days and Weeks ahead.
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 1h I see this more as the Israeli Defense Force allowing these Men and Women to Visit their Families before the Major Operation in Gaza and possible Regional War, rather this being any kind of Deescalation.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:44:02 pm
I've been hearing this every day for almost two weeks. I think Israel has a different definition of the word "Imminent" than the rest of the world. In Israel imminent means, some time in the near future whenever we feel like it.
"Imminent" = T - when it feel right
Perhaps it means "we're not going to tell you when we're going to start because that would immediately be telegraphed to Hamas, who would then be prepared for our initial assault"?
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Post by: Kamaji on October 19, 2023, 02:47:26 pm
Does the US have an immediate way to get them all out??
Gov. DeSantis.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:47:27 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 1h Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, "the Western world stood with you 80 years ago during your darkest hour, this is our darkest hour," during a press conference with British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:48:20 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 02:56:54 pm
Iran’s Top General Threatens to Attack Israel, President Says ‘Termination’ Imminent
The head of the Iranian Armed Forces, Major General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, suggested in a conversation on Thursday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu that continued American and other international support for Israel could “make other actors intervene” against it.
Baqeri’s comments came less than a week after Iran’s foreign minister reportedly suggested Iranian action against the country.
Iran’s radical Islamist regime regularly stages angry mobs chanting “death to Israel” and calling for the massacre of the country’s populations, most recently in response to the October 7 Hamas mass murder of upwards of 1,400 Israeli and international civilians, including dozens of infants and elderly people in their homes. On that day, the regime flooded Tehran with revelers for a street party featuring fireworks and free lemonade.
“Our strategy towards the Zionist entity never changes: the removal of the Zionist entity. Israel must be eliminated,” Iranian Armed Forces Spokesman Brigadier-General Abolfazl Shekarchi said in 2021.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/19/irans-top-general-threatens-to-attack-israel-president-says-termination-imminent/
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 03:01:08 pm
US delivers shipment of armored vehicles to Israel
The first U.S. shipment of military aid to Israel arrived Thursday, the Israeli Ministry of Defense said.
A cargo plane carrying armored vehicles to replace those damaged in the war with Hamas landed at Ben Gurion Airport, officials said.
"This delivery is part of a large-scale procurement operation led by the Israel Ministry of Defense's Directorate of Production and Procurement (DOPP) and the US Procurement Mission, aimed at bolstering the IDF's fleet of vehicles to address a range of operational scenarios," the Israeli Ministry of Defense said.
The delivery is part of a larger NIS 400 million procurement to bolster the Israeli army's vehicle fleet, according to a news release.
"This procurement effort aligns with the specific needs of the IDF and encompasses a diverse array of specialized vehicles, including armored ambulances, operational armored vehicles, tactical trucks, and mechanical engineering equipment," the defense ministry said.
Officials said several hundred more vehicles are currently en route to Israel for use by the IDF. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
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Post by: 240B on October 19, 2023, 03:17:47 pm
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 03:26:41 pm
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst · 2m We just finished visiting two border communities. We’ve reported from these areas for the past 13 days, but today hit especially hard. We saw the room where the Kutz family was executed. An unarmed, peaceful family of five was slaughtered in their house.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 03:27:28 pm
Does the US have an immediate way to get them all out??
Yes of course, the Biden stand by of find a commercial flight.....your on your own! I'm still waiting for Biden to announce the free flights to bring thousands more terrorists to America.
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Post by: GtHawk on October 19, 2023, 03:33:58 pm
Iran’s Top General Threatens to Attack Israel, President Says ‘Termination’ Imminent
The head of the Iranian Armed Forces, Major General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, suggested in a conversation on Thursday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu that continued American and other international support for Israel could “make other actors intervene” against it.
Baqeri’s comments came less than a week after Iran’s foreign minister reportedly suggested Iranian action against the country.
Iran’s radical Islamist regime regularly stages angry mobs chanting “death to Israel” and calling for the massacre of the country’s populations, most recently in response to the October 7 Hamas mass murder of upwards of 1,400 Israeli and international civilians, including dozens of infants and elderly people in their homes. On that day, the regime flooded Tehran with revelers for a street party featuring fireworks and free lemonade.
“Our strategy towards the Zionist entity never changes: the removal of the Zionist entity. Israel must be eliminated,” Iranian Armed Forces Spokesman Brigadier-General Abolfazl Shekarchi said in 2021.
more https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/19/irans-top-general-threatens-to-attack-israel-president-says-termination-imminent/
If somehow Iran did push Israel to the brink of termination I think there would be whole lot of sand turned to glass in the Mid East.
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Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 19, 2023, 03:34:25 pm
Hamas educational childrens' television programming:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: bigheadfred on October 19, 2023, 03:58:45 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 30m The U.K. and Germany have now also requested that their Citizens prepare to Immediately Depart from Lebanon while “Commercial Options are still Available.”
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 04:09:05 pm
US delivers shipment of armored vehicles to Israel
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: 240B on October 19, 2023, 04:11:47 pm
Still waiting for Mossad to take out Hamas leadership in Qatar, Oman, and Iran. I am sure it will happen. Just wondering when it will happen.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 04:12:13 pm
26 minutes ago US, UK issue ominous warning for citizens to flee Lebanon while flights 'remain available' as Israel bombarded with rockets from the north By David Spector
American and British citizens were urged by their respective embassies in Beirut to flee Lebanon while flights are still "available," the Times of Israel reports.
“We recommend that US citizens in Lebanon make appropriate arrangements to leave the country; commercial options currently remain available,” the US Embassy said in a statement.
The British Embassy issued a similar call, saying, "If you are currently in Lebanon, we encourage you to leave now while commercial options remain available," and warned citizens to avoid demonstrations.
Israel was pounded by rocket fire from Lebanon, with 30 rockets fired into the Jewish homeland from the north.
Three Israelis were injured by a rocket strike, including a 75-year-old who suffered a head injury, the Jerusalem Post reports.
Israel responded by attacking military targets in Lebanon.
The IDF warned residents near the Israel-Lebanon border to remain home and lock their doors.
Hamas took responsibility for the rocket strikes.
NYPost
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 19, 2023, 04:19:08 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 05:06:37 pm
IDF says military leaders are approving operational plans to invade Gaza
The Israel Defense Forces said Thursday military leaders are currently approving operational plans for a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip.
"As part of the completion of the preparation for the continuation of the fighting, the approval of operational plans and the deployment of forces in the field are currently happening," the IDF said, adding that Maj. Gen. Yaron Finkelman, the head of the IDF Southern Command, was touring the units currently stationed in southern Israel.
”Now, our maneuvers are going to take the war into their territory. It's going to be long, it's going to be intense, the best commanders and soldiers are here," Finkelman told troops at the front lines, according to IDF.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also visited troops near the Gaza border Thursday and assured them that Israel will prevail in the conflict with Hamas.
"We are going to win with all our might,” Netanyahu said, according to the Times of Israel. “All of Israel is behind you, and we are going to heavily strike our enemies so that we can achieve victory.”
Israel has amassed tens of thousands of troops on the border with Gaza after Hamas infiltrated the Jewish state through the south and slaughtered hundreds of Israelis on October 7. An Israeli invasion to eradicate the terrorist group has been anticipated for days and it is unclear when it will begin.
Fox News' Kassy Dillon contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 05:08:01 pm
By David Spector
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited soldiers stationed on the Israel-Gaza border and vowed that they would be victorious in their war with Hamas, the Times of Israel reports.
"We are going to win with all our strength," the Israeli PM vowed.
"The entire people of Israel stand behind you, and we will deliver a severe blow to our enemies to achieve victory," Netanyahu added.
NYPost
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 05:10:20 pm
42 minutes ago GOP senators introduce bill to redirect $100M in Gaza aid to Iron Dome By David Spector
Ten Republican senators are set to introduce legislation that would divert the $100 million US aid package for Gaza toward replenishing Israel's Iron Dome, Haaretz reports.
This comes after Sen. Rick Scott's (R-Fla.) "Stop Taxpayer Funding of Hamas Act," which sought to block the Biden administration from delivering the aid until it certified with congressional committees that the funds would not go to Hamas, was blocked by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).
The Biden administration has promised that the funds would be delivered to "trusted partners" in UN agencies and NGOs.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 05:10:52 pm
Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 11m Hostages and civilian casualties will be secondary to destroying Hamas, Israel's Economy Minister told ABC News, "even if it takes a year."
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 05:44:17 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m European Intelligence Officials have stated that they so far have only seen Evidence which suggests that 10-50 Palestinians were Killed by the Explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital in Northern Gaza not the 500-800 which was being claimed by Palestinian Authorities.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 05:47:49 pm
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, "the Western world stood with you 80 years ago during your darkest hour, this is our darkest hour," during a press conference with British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
Netanyahu should stop with the holocaust comparisons. This wouldn't have happened "if Mossad, Shin Bet, Aman and his administration had been worth their weight in olive pits".
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Kamaji on October 19, 2023, 05:49:13 pm
Netanyahu should stop with the holocaust comparisons. This wouldn't have happened "if Mossad, Shin Bet, Aman and his administration had been worth their weight in olive pits".
Bullshit. Your prejudice is showing, once again.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: DB on October 19, 2023, 05:54:35 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 33m European Intelligence Officials have stated that they so far have only seen Evidence which suggests that 10-50 Palestinians were Killed by the Explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital in Northern Gaza not the 500-800 which was being claimed by Palestinian Authorities.
What a shock... They lie nonstop and the western media laps it up and spreads it around the world... I don't know how things could get more insane, but we'll likely find out soon enough...
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 06:01:36 pm
Mossad, Shin Bet, Aman all missed the Oct 7 attacks @Kamaji ---- . This is not the holocaust. Oct 7 was a f"*k-up.
Netanyahu should show more respect for the memory of six million murdered Jews who didn't have a Mossad, Shin Bet or Aman to count on.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 06:05:13 pm
Israeli military says Hamas is now holding 203 hostages
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 06:07:19 pm
State Department spokesman says 32 Americans killed in Israel-Hamas war, 11 unaccounted for
State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said Thursday that 32 Americans have been confirmed killed in the Israel-Hamas war.
Another 11 Americans are unaccounted for, Miller told reporters at a news conference.
"With respect to our work to secure the release of hostages, that work is ongoing," he added.
At least 4,800 people have been killed in the war on both sides, including at least 1,400 Israeli civilians and soldiers since Hamas launched a surprise attack on October 7. The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry claims at least 3,478 Palestinians have been killed and more than 10,950 wounded.
President Biden on Wednesday said that freeing Hamas hostages is his administration's top priority.
There's no higher priority than the release and safe return of all these hostages," Biden said in Israel. The president also pledged to ask Congress for an "unprecedented" support package for Israel's defense and said he would ask lawmakers for $100 million in humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians in Gaza facing bombardment by Israeli forces.
Fox News' Greg Norman contributed to this update. Posted by Chris Pandolfo
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 06:08:26 pm
WTH...why?...another Governor wanting a photo-op
Gavin Newsom Makes Surprise Trip to Israel
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) is making a surprise trip to Israel to show solidarity with the Jewish state as it battles Hamas terrorists following a massive Oct. 7 attack that killed over 1,400 people, wounded well over 4,000, and saw over 200 kidnapped.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) is making a surprise trip to Israel to show solidarity with the Jewish state as it battles Hamas terrorists following a massive Oct. 7 attack that killed over 1,400 people, wounded well over 4,000, and saw over 200 kidnapped.
Will he bring any stranded Americans back with him?
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California is also sending some medical supplies to the region
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There were Californians who were affected by the attack, both as victims and survivors.
Newsom’s visit will cause him trouble with his left-wing base, which has come out in favor of the Palestinians, with hardly a word of criticism for the Hamas terrorists. On Wednesday, for example, left-wing students in San Francisco staged a walkout in solidarity with Palestinians (and against Israel).
But the visit will boost his national profile, as the vast majority of Americans support Israel in the conflict.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: corbe on October 19, 2023, 06:17:28 pm
I expect Trump to show up soon in Tel Aviv bringing lots and lots of Trump Water and Trump Steaks way pass their expiration date. :cool:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 06:33:23 pm
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State Department Official Resigns Over Arms Transfers to Israel NY Times, Oct 19, 2023
State Department official in the bureau that oversees arms transfers resigned this week in protest of the Biden administration’s decision to continue sending weapons and ammunition to Israel as it lays siege to Gaza in its war with Hamas.
In his resignation letter, Josh Paul, who has been the director of congressional and public affairs for the State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs for over 11 years, said the Biden administration’s “blind support for one side” was leading to policy decisions that were “shortsighted, destructive, unjust and contradictory to the very values we publicly espouse.”
“The response Israel is taking, and with it the American support both for that response and for the status quo of the occupation, will only lead to more and deeper suffering for both the Israeli and the Palestinian people,” he wrote, adding, “I fear we are repeating the same mistakes we have made these past decades, and I decline to be a part of it for longer.”
In an interview, Mr. Paul said that Israel’s cutting off of water, food, medical care and electricity to Gaza, a territory of two million people, should prompt protections in a number of longstanding federal laws intended to keep American weapons out of the hands of human rights violators. But those legal guardrails are failing, he said.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 06:40:28 pm
Welcome to 🤡 world ---- American style.
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Scoop: U.S. to send Israel artillery shells initially designated for Ukraine Oct 19, 2023
The Pentagon plans to send Israel tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells that had been designated for Ukraine from U.S. emergency stocks several months ago, three Israeli officials with knowledge of the situation tell Axios.
Why it matters: The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the Israeli ministry of defense told their U.S. counterparts they urgently need artillery shells to prepare for a ground invasion in Gaza — and a potential escalation of the war by Hezbollah along the Israel-Lebanon border, Israeli officials say.
U.S. officials have suggested that diverting the shells from Ukraine to Israel would have no immediate impact on Ukraine's ability to fight against Russian troops.
But it's unclear whether U.S. military supplies to Ukraine could be stretched if the Israel-Hamas war becomes a broader regional conflict.
I expect Trump to show up soon in Tel Aviv bringing lots and lots of Trump Water and Trump Steaks way pass their expiration date. :cool:
Doubtful. However @corbe I am still convinced that none of this would have happened on Trump's watch. He stood in the way preventing the chaos in the world and the globalist takingover (including the US) to implement the Great Reset.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: libertybele on October 19, 2023, 07:19:38 pm
Doubtful. However @corbe I am still convinced that none of this would have happened on Trump's watch. He stood in the way preventing the chaos in the world and the globalist takingover (including the US) to implement the Great Reset.
In all fairness to the former POTUS, he did, as best he could, but he also brought the swarms of Globalist rodents out of the woodwork, insanely intent on either bringing him down or conspicuously NOT cooperating with policies that could have made a difference. Instead, they shunned the best policy ideas and slow walked or stymied their implementation, while the DOJ was working for 'the other team'.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Wingnut on October 19, 2023, 07:40:47 pm
In all fairness to the former POTUS, he did, as best he could, but he also brought the swarms of Globalist rodents out of the woodwork, insanely intent on either bringing him down or conspicuously NOT cooperating with policies that could have made a difference. Instead, they shunned the best policy ideas and slow walked or stymied their implementation, while the DOJ was working for 'the other team'.
Good thing Joe wasn't trying to do that.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:44:17 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 6m Pentagon Press Secretary, Brigadier General Pat Ryder has Confirmed that the USS Carney did Shoot Down 3 Land-Attack Cruise Missiles as well as several Drones launched by Houthi Forces in Yemen last night over the Red Sea.
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 5m He further states that their Target is currently Unknown but they are believed to have possibly been heading for Israel.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:44:46 pm
It is a lead pipe with some propellant and a primitive tnt ball bearings fashioned from a water pipe and a nail head to ignite it. It don't take much to make them lose their aim. A bird, a strong wind gust.
Probably aluminum or some alloy. Weight counts with rockets.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:46:15 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 31m As I stated last night in my Post about the Houthis Missiles Capabilities, they don’t have any known Missiles with more than a 900 Miles Range and Israel is over 1,000 Miles so this may be a New Type of Missiles that they have Acquired.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:47:44 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:48:52 pm
The Jerusalem Post @Jerusalem_Post · 43m Drones and rockets targeted on Thursday evening the Ain al-Asad air base, which hosts US and other international forces in western Iraq
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 07:50:42 pm
UNDP erects tents for displaced Gazans: pictures By David Spector
The United Nations Development Program or UNDP has erected tents to house Gazans displaced by the war.
Thousands of Gazans are believed to be displaced since the war began.
US troops injured in a drone attack... that must be a first.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:01:27 pm
US Navy intercepts missile fired near Yemen coast heading 'potentially towards targets in Israel'
The U.S. Navy intercepted several missiles fired near the coast of Yemen on Wednesday, two U.S. told Fox News.
It was unclear what the missiles were targeting.
One official said the missile were fired from Iranian backed Houthi militants. Iran has provided the Houthi rebels with weapons amid a crippling war in Yemen.
Bring. Gen. Pat Ryder said during a press conference at the Pentagon on Thursday that the missiles were heading "potentially towards targets in Israel."
Fox News' Liz Friden contributed to this report. Posted by Louis Casiano
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:10:13 pm
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OSINTdefender @sentdefender
Initial Reports of another Attack within the last few minutes on U.S. Forces near the Al-Omar Oilfields in Northeastern Syria.
4:03 PM · Oct 19, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:18:47 pm
Scoop: U.S. to send Israel artillery shells initially designated for Ukraine Barak Ravid
The Pentagon plans to send Israel tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells that had been designated for Ukraine from U.S. emergency stocks several months ago, three Israeli officials with knowledge of the situation tell Axios.
Why it matters: The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and the Israeli ministry of defense told their U.S. counterparts they urgently need artillery shells to prepare for a ground invasion in Gaza — and a potential escalation of the war by Hezbollah along the Israel-Lebanon border, Israeli officials say.
U.S. officials have suggested that diverting the shells from Ukraine to Israel would have no immediate impact on Ukraine's ability to fight against Russian troops. But it's unclear whether U.S. military supplies to Ukraine could be stretched if the Israel-Hamas war becomes a broader regional conflict.
Zoom in: Since Hamas' attack on Israel ignited the war on Oct. 7, the Israeli military has significantly increased its use of artillery — both in Gaza and in skirmishes with Hezbollah on the Lebanon border.
more https://www.axios.com/2023/10/19/us-israel-artillery-shells-ukraine-weapons-gaza
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:19:45 pm
Israel’s Work Permits for Gaza Enabled the Hamas Attack Gazans got permits to work inside Israel. They came as killers and rapists.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:27:25 pm
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Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_
NEW: The White House admits they accidentally doxxed US Special Forces by posting an uncensored photo of them w/ Biden in Israel.
WH: “As soon as this was brought to our attention, we immediately deleted the photo. We regret the error and any issues this may have caused.”
3:58 PM · Oct 19, 2023
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Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_
This was the now deleted Instagram post from the White House, which was posted uncensored. @samosaur added the black squares in his post calling out this major OpSec blunder.
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Sam Shoemate @samosaur ·9h
The Whitehouse media team shared this picture last night (I added the black boxes) without blurring or censoring the faces of the “Delta Force” (CAG) operator’s faces. They deleted it an hour later after hundreds of thousands had already viewed it.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 19, 2023, 08:34:11 pm
The White House admits they accidentally doxxed US Special Forces by posting an uncensored photo of them w/ Biden in Israel.
Lara Logan @laralogan Unless Biden himself posted this photo - which we all know is not how this works - then the person responsible for doing so broke the law. Only the President & the original classification authority can declassify this & it would have had to go through layers of review if the legal process had been followed. Remember what happened to Seal Team 6 after they were “outed”?
Lara Logan @laralogan Is this Admin trying to get its own people killed? This is an “unacknowledged Tier One unit”. No one is that incompetent/stupid. Remember when Biden outed Seal Team 6 for capturing Bin Laden? He was VP at the time & had no authority to “out” another “unacknowledged Tier One unit”
No Tamed Tongue @NoTamedTongue Obama knows what he is doing. This was intentional.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:34:35 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 34m A U.S. Military Contractor was Killed by a Heart Attack while attempting to seek Shelter last night during an Attack on Al-Asad Airbase in Western Iraq.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:35:33 pm
34 minutes ago Hamas terrorists on drugs also used by ISIS as they slaughtered civilians: report By David Spector
Hamas terrorists who executed the deadly October 7 surprise attack on Israel were under the influence of Captagon, a synthetic stimulant frequently referred to as "cocaine for the poor," the Jerusalem Post reports.
The drug has been used by terrorists in the past. ISIS members were known to use the drug to suppress fear before carrying out attacks.
The stimulant has become highly popular in the Gaza Strip due to its low cost -- individual pills can go for as little as a dollar.
Captagon is known to be highly addictive and can also cause psychotic states.
NYPost
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:37:16 pm
32 minutes ago Israeli military has ‘green light’ to launch invasion into Gaza: official By David Spector
The Israeli military appeared to be on the brink of launching a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip nearly two weeks after Hamas terrorists invaded southern Israel.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000061856988.jpg?resize=2048,1365&quality=80&strip=all) Israeli soldiers listen to Defense Minister Yoav Gallant as he meets them in a field near Israel's border with the Gaza Strip.REUTERS
The country’s Economy Minister Nir Barkat told ABC News Thursday that the Israel Defense Forces has a “green light” to begin an offensive – just in time for the arrival of hefty military supplies from the US.
“We shall do all efforts to bring our hostages, to bring our hostages [back] alive,” he insisted while acknowledging that the “first and last priority” is destroying Hamas.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mountaineer on October 19, 2023, 08:38:25 pm
Hamas terrorists on drugs also used by ISIS as they slaughtered civilians: report...
See my reply #718, above, about that drug. https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,515077.msg2923672.html#msg2923672
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:39:07 pm
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James Woods @RealJamesWoods
Under Joe Biden’s rule Americans are no longer safe anywhere in the world. And, of course, they are already unsafe in any major city at home.
Elections have consequences.
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Travel - State Dept @TravelGov ·4h
Worldwide Caution: Due to increased tensions in various locations around the world, the potential for terrorist attacks, demonstrations or violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests, the Department of State @StateDept advises U.S. citizens overseas to exercise increased caution. More at https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html
The White House admits they accidentally doxxed US Special Forces by posting an uncensored photo of them w/ Biden in Israel.
Lara Logan @laralogan Unless Biden himself posted this photo - which we all know is not how this works - then the person responsible for doing so broke the law. Only the President & the original classification authority can declassify this & it would have had to go through layers of review if the legal process had been followed. Remember what happened to Seal Team 6 after they were “outed”?
Lara Logan @laralogan Is this Admin trying to get its own people killed? This is an “unacknowledged Tier One unit”. No one is that incompetent/stupid. Remember when Biden outed Seal Team 6 for capturing Bin Laden? He was VP at the time & had no authority to “out” another “unacknowledged Tier One unit”
No Tamed Tongue @NoTamedTongue Obama knows what he is doing. This was intentional.
I hope they don't have to pull them out of theater.... 9999hair out0000
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:44:31 pm
"Totally Inappropriate’: Trump Rips Biden For Sending $100 Million In Aid To Gaza
The last time we had a completely nonfunctional POTUS, we entered WWI with Wilson. Again, another incompetent Democrat.
People are dying throughout the world courtesy of having Biden as POTUS. None of this bullsh*t would be happening if Trump was serving his 2nd term.
The fact is that the USA is perceived throughout the world as a huge joke, with a leader that is dead from the neck up.
I can't argue about any of that...all true
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:53:09 pm
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MAGA War Room @MAGAIncWarRoom
Joe Biden reversed the Trump administration's decision to put the Houthis on the State Department's terror list.
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The Gateway Pundit @gatewaypundit ·1h
BREAKING: AMERICA ATTACKED! Iranian-Backed Houthi Militants Fire Missiles at US Navy Destroyer off Coast of Yemen via @gatewaypundit https://thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/breaking-america-attacked-iranian-backed-houthi-militants-fire/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=breaking-america-attacked-iranian-backed-houthi-militants-fire
3:49 PM · Oct 19, 2023
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 08:54:59 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 08:56:55 pm
OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 15m Significant Damage and a Large Fire is being reported at a Pipeline near a U.S. Forward-Operations Base within the Al-Omar Oilfields of Northeastern Syria following a Rocket and Drone Attack.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: 240B on October 19, 2023, 08:57:30 pm
Hamas terrorists on drugs also used by ISIS as they slaughtered civilians: report
Drugs and Muslims is not new. Check this out.
1530s (in Anglo-Latin from mid-13c.), via medieval French and Italian Assissini, Assassini, from Arabic hashīshīn (12c.), an Arabic nickname, variously explained, for the Nizari Ismaili sect in the Middle East during the Crusades, plural of hashishiyy, from the source of hashish (q.v.).
They were a fanatical Muslim sect in the mountains of Lebanon at the time of the Crusades, under leadership of the "Old Man of the Mountains" (which translates Arabic shaik-al-jibal, name applied to Hasan ibu-al-Sabbah). In Western European minds 12c.-13c. they had a reputation for murdering opposing leaders after intoxicating themselves by eating hashish, but there is no evidence that the medieval Ismailis used hashish.
The plural suffix -in was mistaken in Europe for part of the word (compare Bedouin). Middle English had the word as hassais (mid-14c.), from Old French hassasis, assasis, which is from the Arabic word.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/assassin
Assassin = Hashishian
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 19, 2023, 08:58:47 pm
If I were the leader of Israel, I would bomb Gaza day and night for another month before entering and screw the world and what they think.
22222frying pan :yowsa:
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Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 09:00:10 pm
US officials confirm to @abc that @usnavy destroyer USS Carney shot down multiple Houthi missiles last night. They were NOT aimed at the ship, but headed in a northerly direction.
4:43 PM · Oct 19, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 09:07:15 pm
Netanyahu should stop with the holocaust comparisons. This wouldn't have happened "if Mossad, Shin Bet, Aman and his administration had been worth their weight in olive pits".
Perhaps, just perhaps, Netanyahu in addressing the British PM, was referencing the bombing of England by the Germans? I believe Churchill referred to this as the "darkest hour".
Although, since the avowed intent of Hamas et al is the destruction of the Jews, the Holocaust is a valid comparison as well.
Obviously there was some kind of intell breakdown. But that happens in the US and other countries as well.
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Post by: DB on October 19, 2023, 09:29:23 pm
Putting it bluntly, a complete Holocaust of the Jews is the end goal by those who surround Israel. They've stated that over and over.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 09:38:48 pm
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BREAKING: The Israeli embassy in #Bahrain was just set on fire! Islamic terrorists are currently throwing Molotov cocktails at the embassy.
Israel just ordered evacuations of their embassies in Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, and Turkey.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 19, 2023, 10:00:45 pm
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Joey Mannarino @JoeyMannarinoUS
We give Jordan $1 BILLION A YEAR in foreign aid and when Joe Biden asked to meet with their leader and flew to the region, they stood him up.
We give Egypt about $100 MILLION a year and they stood Biden up too.
If Biden had balls, he’d immediately cut every dollar of aid to them… but he doesn’t.
7:23 PM · Oct 18, 2023
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:08:19 pm
erusalem deputy mayor demands 'proof of life' of hostages, assurance before Biden humanitarian aide hits Gaza Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Fleur Hassan-Nahoum tells Fox News Digital Biden must ensure Gazan aide doesn't fall into the hands of Hamas terrorists By Danielle Wallace Fox News Published October 19, 2023 5:44pm EDT
The deputy mayor of Jerusalem demanded "proof of life" for the more than 200 hostages estimated to have been taken from Israel by Hamas militants and other assurances before humanitarian aide promised by President Biden or any other government arrives in Gaza for Palestinians.
"The first thing we need is proof of life. We haven't had anything," Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Fleur Hassan-Nahoum told Fox News Digital. "We haven't had the Red Cross being able to see them. We haven't had the U.N. even talking about the hostages. What happens to our hostages is three and five-month-old babies and their mothers, mothers with three children, young women serially raped, paraded down the street, an old lady with dementia in a wheelchair, people ridiculing her down the street and abusing her. Who are these people and why?"
"This is something that I think we cannot give up on the hostages," she said, speaking from Israel via Zoom. "We need to demand, if you want humanitarian assistance, we understand that. But we need our hostages to be a priority for all governments and for our government. And any type of humanitarian assistance has to be conditional on the assurance that our hostages, especially the injured ones, will at least be having medical treatment. And we haven't had any assurances of anything."
more https://www.foxnews.com/world/jerusalem-deputy-mayor-demands-proof-life-hostages-assurance-before-biden-humanitarian-aide-hits-gaza
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:14:23 pm
Why rescuing the Hamas hostages is so hard: ‘We’ve not seen a case quite like this in the modern era’ By Ronny Reyes
A military operation to rescue the hostages held by Hamas terrorists appears all but impossible, with experts warning that diplomacy should now be the main focus — as Israel’s military revealed the number of kidnapped has risen to more than 200.
Twelve days after Hamas invaded Israel in a surprise terror attack, officials in the Jewish state estimate that 203 people were taken hostage by the terror group — an increase on its previous number of those believed to be kidnapped.
Given the large number of innocent captives — which include children, women and the elderly from about 40 different nations — experts on hostage negotiations fear a military rescue is out of the question and are now calling on the US and Qatar to facilitate a more strategic one.
“We’ve not seen a case quite like this in the modern era,” Christopher O’Leary, a former senior FBI official who led many hostage recovery teams, told The Post.
“Israel should negotiate the release of the hostages as a priority while working to gather more intelligence,” he continued.
NYPost
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: sneakypete on October 19, 2023, 10:15:50 pm
Perhaps it means "we're not going to tell you when we're going to start because that would immediately be telegraphed to Hamas, who would then be prepared for our initial assault"?
It can also be a VERY smart and effective "fake-out" that keeps the enemy on their toes,and makes them exhausted from lack of sleep by the time you actually attack.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:16:47 pm
I think we need a fresh thread....
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: mystery-ak on October 19, 2023, 10:18:39 pm
It can also be a VERY smart and effective "fake-out" that keeps the enemy on their toes,and makes them exhausted from lack of sleep by the time you actually attack.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: MOD7 on October 19, 2023, 10:29:40 pm
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Fishrrman on October 19, 2023, 10:53:36 pm
From mystery's post 782 above, regarding greasy gavin: "But the visit will boost his national profile, as the vast majority of Americans support Israel in the conflict."
Off topic, but why would greasy gavin need to have his "national profile" "boosted"?
Something to do with what's gonna happen next year?
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: Lando Lincoln on October 20, 2023, 03:36:51 am
Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal 🚨 JUST IN: Captagon Drug Found on Bodies of Hamas Members
- Captagon, a drug used by Hamas members, has been discovered on the bodies of Hamas members and prisoners. - Also known as "cocaine for the poor," Captagon is believed to enable Hamas members to carry out their acts with composure and indifference. - The drug is reportedly produced in Lebanon and Syria, and extremist Salafist elements, including ISIS, have been known to use it.
Source: Channel 12 News 8:01 AM · Oct 19, 2023 --------------------- GT𝕏Media @GTX_Media Captagon, also known by its chemical name fenethylline, is a synthetic drug that is chemically similar to both amphetamine and theophylline. It was originally developed in the 1960s as a combination of amphetamine and theophylline, which is a stimulant found in tea and some asthma medications.
Captagon gained notoriety for its stimulant effects, including increased alertness, energy, and euphoria. It was initially prescribed to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), narcolepsy, and depression. However, due to its potential for abuse and addictive properties, it was eventually banned in most countries.
In recent years, Captagon has become associated with illegal production and trafficking in certain regions, particularly in the Middle East. Some reports suggest that illicit production of Captagon may involve using alternative substances, as the original fenethylline formula is now illegal.
It's important to note that the production, possession, and use of Captagon outside of approved medical contexts is illegal and can have serious health and legal consequences. This substance is considered a controlled substance in many countries due to its potential for misuse and harm. 8:15 AM · Oct 19, 2023
In the 80’s I had personal experience with Captagon. I was working endless hours in a small town in Trinidad. I was burned out and exhausted. The local pharmacist gave me Captagon. It was amazing but I knew I had to back off or have other problems. But, I was Superman when I took it.
Title: Re: BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
Post by: jafo2010 on October 20, 2023, 04:53:48 am
I'm sorry, but Cori Bush on her best day is a major moron. Anyone calling January 6th an insurrection lacks any comprehension of what would happen if we had a REAL INSURRECTION!!!