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Title: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Wingnut on February 11, 2017, 02:46:59 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

A Leftist is always a leftist. Doesn't matter the year.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jG5rHb4tQ
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: geronl on February 11, 2017, 02:55:42 am
8 worse protest songs

https://33revolutionsperminute.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/the-eight-worst-protest-songs/
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: corbe on February 11, 2017, 04:22:57 am
   Honorable Mention.  Updated to include more Trump and Palin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMq66DhYUmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMq66DhYUmM)
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 11, 2017, 06:39:10 am
At least the left in the 60's had good music... now what do they have?
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: uglybiker on February 11, 2017, 12:49:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ8ERBr9yKI
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 11, 2017, 01:49:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg6xaFZStEI
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Wingnut on February 11, 2017, 01:57:57 pm
At least the left in the 60's had good music... now what do they have?

Boy..ain't that the truth.  These new ones...what are the good for. Absolutely nothin.  Say it again.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: pookie18 on February 12, 2017, 04:47:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Kr1YB2cs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6I36UQWcc
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Wingnut on February 12, 2017, 04:53:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Kr1YB2cs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6I36UQWcc

Now we are back on track!
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Sanguine on February 12, 2017, 05:31:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 12, 2017, 09:59:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55FZnYhCM-Y
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 12, 2017, 10:47:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMOPQZ_JlsM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=L82_N3UPPDs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwXO0sbN4pc
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: mountaineer on February 12, 2017, 11:07:17 pm
 Barry McGuire, after "Eve of Destruction," became a Christian and started singing about Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: dfwgator on February 12, 2017, 11:11:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMOPQZ_JlsM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=L82_N3UPPDs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwXO0sbN4pc

Makes me think of that line from Cracker's "Teen Angst"....."What the world needs now is another Folk Singer, like I need a hole in my head."
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 11:30:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7-m919ynU&list=PLB4ZwZjaUJxZ8CHexhf-TN_t3LTDlRVfd
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: dfwgator on February 12, 2017, 11:31:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7-m919ynU&list=PLB4ZwZjaUJxZ8CHexhf-TN_t3LTDlRVfd

Another example of trying to pin Vietnam on Nixon instead of on LBJ.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Wingnut on February 12, 2017, 11:38:09 pm
Another example of trying to pin Vietnam on Nixon instead of on LBJ.

Never let facts get in the way of a good protest song...
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: pookie18 on February 12, 2017, 11:38:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy_6Enxa-Lo
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 12, 2017, 11:57:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcG3tXYNF8

I think there are a lot of good folk songs without delving into the war protest song genre.  I can set youtube to play the Kingston Trio's songs and find it enjoyable.

Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2017, 12:15:38 am
Original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOB3zo7Kg-o

One evening as the sun went down
And the jungle fires were burning,
Down the track came a hobo hiking,
And he said, "Boys, I'm not turning
I'm headed for a land that's far away
Besides the crystal fountains
So come with me, we'll go and see
The Big Rock Candy Mountains"

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,
There's a land that's fair and bright,
Where the handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night
Where the boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees
And the cigarette trees
The lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
All the cops have wooden legs
And the bulldogs all have rubber teeth
And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs
The farmers' trees are full of fruit
And the barns are full of hay
Oh I'm bound to go
Where there ain't no snow
Where the rain don't fall
The winds don't blow
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
You never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol
Come trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats
And the railway bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew
And of whiskey too
You can paddle all around em
In a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,
The jails are made of tin.
And you can walk right out again,
As soon as you are in.
There ain't no short-handled shovels,
No axes, saws or picks,
I'ma goin' to stay
Where you sleep all day,
Where they hung the Turk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

I'll see you all this coming Fall
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

Songwriters: HARRY MCCLINTOCK, HARRY KIRBY MCCLINTOCK
© Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Warner/Chappell Music, Inc.
For non-commercial use only.
Data From: LyricFind
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2017, 01:04:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3lYqTAlnE

Songs like this, "This Land Is Your Land" were sung in school.  RHCM is depression era, I guess Woody's may be too.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: truth_seeker on February 13, 2017, 01:52:20 am


Songs like this, "This Land Is Your Land" were sung in school.  RHCM is depression era, I guess Woody's may be too.

I doubt that very many "conservatives" today realize how strong the left was during the 1930s. Then the USSR was our ally, in defeating the Axis powers.

The folk music of the 30s-60s would not have been viewed as "subversive" by any but a tiny sliver of people at most.

In retro tagging it as Pinko is not going to convince many people of anything.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Sanguine on February 13, 2017, 02:08:50 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogOWBqoc6VQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogOWBqoc6VQ

I actually enjoy this one.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Sanguine on February 13, 2017, 02:09:46 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5djVrVsI7W4
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 13, 2017, 02:45:38 am
Here is an oddity affirmed by wikipedia, The Guess Who visited the White House in the day but the First Lady, Pat Nixon, requested that they were not to play American Woman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqfpkTTy2w

Kind of a nice beat but I never cared for what sounds like the message.

So, tee up "She was an American Girl".
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: uglybiker on February 13, 2017, 05:59:51 am
So I guess my songs weren't protest-y enough?
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: dfwgator on February 13, 2017, 06:09:26 am
I doubt that very many "conservatives" today realize how strong the left was during the 1930s. Then the USSR was our ally, in defeating the Axis powers.

 

Oh no, when Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed the Non-Aggression Pact, suddenly The Left wanted us to stay out of the war and they suddenly loved Hitler, it was only when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, the Left turned on him.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 14, 2017, 02:23:46 am
I doubt that very many "conservatives" today realize how strong the left was during the 1930s. Then the USSR was our ally, in defeating the Axis powers.

The folk music of the 30s-60s would not have been viewed as "subversive" by any but a tiny sliver of people at most.

In retro tagging it as Pinko is not going to convince many people of anything.

Was this addressed to my post? Schools in Texas and all over sing "This Land Is Your Land",

Tennessee Cowboy Harry McClinton wrote "Rock Hard Candy Moutain"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_McClintock

What's next? Something wrong with Oklahoma Hills?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ZJzN-2o90

"way down yonder on the Indian Nation..." I think we all know those lyrics.

Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 19, 2017, 12:29:44 am
Ya gotta play this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ksYL26lZE

Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 19, 2017, 12:36:46 am
A little help here. Can't quite tell what he is saying at the last. Can someone look that up for me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 19, 2017, 12:47:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 19, 2017, 12:51:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM4vblG6BVQ
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 19, 2017, 12:59:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: jmyrlefuller on February 21, 2017, 12:41:29 am
Ya gotta play this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ksYL26lZE
I never got this one. Why was Joan Baez, ultra-liberal peace and equality preaching hippie, singing about the Confederacy? The CSA was diametrically opposite most of the hippie left's belief system.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: bigheadfred on February 21, 2017, 12:50:57 am
I never got this one. Why was Joan Baez, ultra-liberal peace and equality preaching hippie, singing about the Confederacy? The CSA was diametrically opposite most of the hippie left's belief system.

I think it was "here sing this" so she did.  The guy who wrote it didn't like her version (The Band) and she didn't study up for it, getting the lyrics wrong.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Wingnut on February 21, 2017, 12:51:10 am
I never got this one. Why was Joan Baez, ultra-liberal peace and equality preaching hippie, singing about the Confederacy? The CSA was diametrically opposite most of the hippie left's belief system.



"Watching the relentless bandwagon of cultural cleansing of all things Southern has started me thinking about all the music that will have to be condemned if those who have vilified the Rebel Flag continue their bullying revisionism.

One song that comes to mind is "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down."  And one of my favorite versions of the song, besides the original by The Band (the song was written by The Band's guitar player, Robbie Robertson, with assistance from The Band's vocalist and drummer, Levon Helm), is Joan Baez's version.(By the way, in most of her performances, her lyrics are not quite faithful to the original; e.g., instead of the historical reference to "Stoneman's Cavalry," she renders it as "so much cavalry.")

Baez has always been an "activist" for the whole laundry list of typical liberal causes: nonviolence, gay rights, environmentalism, opposition to the Vietnam and Iraq wars, and opposition to the death penalty.  She has supported Amnesty International and Occupy Wall Street

To her credit, despite her opposition to the Vietnam War, in 1979 she condemned the Communist government of Vietnam in a full-page ad in the New York Times; she also condemned the Communist government of China after the Tiananmen Square massacre.  But aside from that, she's been, and continues to be, a poster girl for all the left's politically correct pet causes.

So I wonder if Joan will join the chorus of those now seeking to once more "drive old Dixie down."  I wonder if she will now repudiate and disown her recordings and performances of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," on the grounds that it is sympathetic to the defeated Confederacy, and such sympathy is now unforgivably politically incorrect.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/07/will_joan_baez_or_anyone_ever_sing_the_night_they_drove_old_dixie_down_again.html
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: TomSea on February 21, 2017, 05:19:32 am
The song was written by a bunch of Canadians anyway from what I know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

She's sung songs about prisoners; doesn't mean she is endorsing what they did.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: truth_seeker on February 21, 2017, 06:32:56 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_southern_rock_bands

List of Southern Rock Bands, including The Band, The Allman Brothers, Lynerd Skynerd, Marshall Tucker band,  Alabama, many popular performers such as Leon Russell, J.J. Cale, etc.

People like Eric Clapton were drawn to the music, for the sake of the music, not any particular political meanings.

And the music was and remains great, simply great.
Title: Re: Protest Songs. The good. The bad..and the ugly
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 21, 2017, 08:34:54 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-JoW_8qw0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-JoW_8qw0)