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Title: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 05:17:50 pm
The title says it all.

This question was posted on another forum I belong on.
It appears the sub-forum of that site may very well
change its rules to mandate using your real name in
posts.

That would decrease its value for me as I have no
desire to commit suicide.

Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: mystery-ak on July 10, 2020, 05:26:53 pm
The title says it all.

This question was posted on another forum I belong on.
It appears the sub-forum of that site may very well
change its rules to mandate using your real name in
posts.

That would decrease its value for me as I have no
desire to commit suicide.

 :pondering: I recommend this forum...  :shrug:
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 05:31:01 pm

AZBilliards

It is primarily a pool site and has an active subforum called NPR for non pool related.
You have to be a member to see these postings. I have been a member there and if it
continues I will post there. If they wish that I post under my name that will stop.

This is the best one that I know of. Plus it has an outstanding discussion of pool on
the main and in the table maintenance subforum. Member since 2009.

forums.azbilliards.com

The GOP Briefing Room
I have been a member since 2012.

It has divided the political discussion into several subtopics. It is an excellent
forum. The focus is conservative and GOP areas.

gopbriefingroom.com


The Tree of Liberty
I joined it since my brother was libertarian and I wanted to educate myself. I find
they have few libertarians there. I have been a member there since 2011 but hadn't
posted there in a number of years. It has changed its membership significantly. It is
more of a wide-open place. I have posted there recently but it is not a place I would
recommend to a friend.

thetreeofliberty.com
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 05:35:37 pm
:pondering: I recommend this forum...  :shrug:


So do I and I have. I have more time invested in another forum but the idea occurred to ask the
same question here.

I don't mean to harm, but as I posted a similar response there there could be members checking
out this site.

Perhaps an opportunity, but that could also bring some who stir. They will
be known by their acts.

One of the two who caused me a short ban has themselves been banned.
Goes around type of thing.

If you prefer, PM me.

Thanks



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 05:36:40 pm

So do I and I have. I have more time invested in another forum but the idea occurred to ask the
same question here.

I don't mean to harm, but as I posted a similar response there there could be members checking
out this site. Perhaps an opportunity, but that could also bring some who stir. They will be
known by their acts.

One of the two who caused me a short ban has themselves been banned.
Goes around type of thing.

If you prefer, PM me.

This is an excellent site.


Thanks

Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: libertybele on July 10, 2020, 06:11:00 pm
Kind of an odd question to post. I recommend THIS forum.  I have belonged to several  other forums in the past (one I was banned from) and once I found this forum I have never left as it seems to be a cut above the rest as far as the caliber of members.  I posted in one of the old forums that I belonged to probably 6 months ago -- I stayed in there for maybe all of 10 minutes -- just doesn't have the appeal and the topics and responses in there ... meh, not for me.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 10, 2020, 06:27:26 pm
Kind of an odd question to post. I recommend THIS forum.  I have belonged to several  other forums in the past (one I was banned from) and once I found this forum I have never left as it seems to be a cut above the rest as far as the caliber of members.  I posted in one of the old forums that I belonged to probably 6 months ago -- I stayed in there for maybe all of 10 minutes -- just doesn't have the appeal and the topics and responses in there ... meh, not for me.
Same here. I was posting on a couple of others after leaving TOS (class of '99), and while I can still post on TOS, have only posted a prayer request there in the last couple of years. The other fora I have posted on just don't have the character(s) this one does, so I spend an overwhelming amount of time here.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: XenaLee on July 10, 2020, 06:59:22 pm
The title says it all.

This question was posted on another forum I belong on.
It appears the sub-forum of that site may very well
change its rules to mandate using your real name in
posts.

That would decrease its value for me as I have no
desire to commit suicide.

Using your "real" name is an invasion of privacy and a threat to your safety and that of your family.   We know how these leftists roll, after all.   So any forum mandating that can KMA on Fifth Avenue, right in front of the moronic "mural".
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Hoodat on July 10, 2020, 07:14:27 pm
Using your "real" name is an invasion of privacy and a threat to your safety and that of your family.   We know how these leftists roll, after all.   So any forum mandating that can KMA on Fifth Avenue, right in front of the moronic "mural".

You mean to say that your real name isn't XenaLee?  I feel so disillusioned.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: XenaLee on July 10, 2020, 07:22:29 pm
You mean to say that your real name isn't XenaLee?  I feel so disillusioned.

Lol....

smart ass!    ****slapping
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 07:42:46 pm
Using your "real" name is an invasion of privacy and a threat to your safety and that of your family.   We know how these leftists roll, after all.   So any forum mandating that can KMA on Fifth Avenue, right in front of the moronic "mural".


My post was moved and finally I found it. General Discussion

I agree with the invasion of privacy is a major concern when people are being doxed
and can find a crowd harassing you at your home, or place of business. It also places
family and friends in jeopardy.

For me it is a no go. I like the people there and have sent PM to two members and
I may send it to a handful of others who are adults.

I like the feeling that I can say something obvious here and be treated as an adult
by other adults. That is not a given at the other site.

Al







Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 07:44:11 pm
You mean to say that your real name isn't XenaLee?  I feel so disillusioned.




I am also disillusioned.  :)
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: 240B on July 10, 2020, 07:54:53 pm
Posting under your real name is dangerous on many levels.
Not only the threat of violence, but it can affect employment, IRS, police, everything.
And it does not matter what you post. Anything anybody posts is 'offensive' to someone.
There is no way to be neutral because society is not neutral and does not allow that.
If I post, "Hey, you know, maybe we should stop murdering infants?"
With that statement, I have thousands of people who want to kill me and see me dead.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 08:09:35 pm
Posing under your real name is dangerous on many levels.
Not only the threat of violence, but it can affect employment, IRS, police, everything.
And it does not matter what you post. Anything anybody posts is 'offensive' to someone.
There is no way to be neutral because society is not neutral and does not allow that.
If I post, "Hey, you know, maybe we should stop murdering infants?"
With that statement, I have thousands of people who want to kill me and see me dead.



I have met that guy on the other forum.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 10, 2020, 08:15:56 pm
   I roam many right leaning sites and yes, a few left, throughout my day, when time allows, gathering Topics to share with my Briefer Friends. Every site has it's problem childs AND it's 'Crazy Mods'.  IMHO, what separates TBR from the others is that I feel in my Heart that Myst and Cyber truly work to maintain an OPEN Forum, where almost all debate is allowed and even encouraged.

   O/T though depression is not something that finds a home in me, for very long, this constant pounding of bad news each day is taking it's toll, and as the numbers here indicate, I am not alone.  So I went to my book shelves and randomly selected a book yesterday and read the whole damn thing

(http://prodimage.images-bn.com/pimages/2940148474005_p0_v1_s1200x630.jpg)

   I was disappointed that the plot involved race relations in year 2120 (Spoiler Alert: we lose). 

   This morning I picked this one.

(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/32239/4a638a040a901_32239b.jpg)

    Oh yea, I switched from Bourbon to Vodka, so that seems to help, also.

 
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: LegalAmerican on July 10, 2020, 08:33:24 pm
Posing under your real name is dangerous on many levels.
Not only the threat of violence, but it can affect employment, IRS, police, everything.
And it does not matter what you post. Anything anybody posts is 'offensive' to someone.
There is no way to be neutral because society is not neutral and does not allow that.
If I post, "Hey, you know, maybe we should stop murdering infants?"
With that statement, I have thousands of people who want to kill me and see me dead.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 10, 2020, 08:43:16 pm
   I roam many right leaning sites and yes, a few left, throughout my day, when time allows, gathering Topics to share with my Briefer Friends. Every site has it's problem childs AND it's 'Crazy Mods'.  IMHO, what separates TBR from the others is that I feel in my Heart that Myst and Cyber truly work to maintain an OPEN Forum, where almost all debate is allowed and even encouraged.

   O/T though depression is not something that finds a home in me, for very long, this constant pounding of bad news each day is taking it's toll, and as the numbers here indicate, I am not alone.  So I went to my book shelves and randomly selected a book yesterday and read the whole damn thing

(http://prodimage.images-bn.com/pimages/2940148474005_p0_v1_s1200x630.jpg)

   I was disappointed that the plot involved race relations in year 2120 (Spoiler Alert: we lose). 

   This morning I picked this one.

(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/32239/4a638a040a901_32239b.jpg)

    Oh yea, I switched from Bourbon to Vodka, so that seems to help, also.

 


I read every day. I am working on The Life of Samuel Johnson, by James Boswell.
I am about half way through. Samuel Johnson wrote the first english dictionary.
He was genius and his friend Boswell captured much of what he said and said
in letters.

A friend recommended the book as that chosen to have one book on a desert
island. It is exceptional.

I read about 50 books a year. Though I lost ground with an operation and
the virus.

Al



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 10, 2020, 08:50:43 pm
  I haven't read a book since last fall, this is my last one.

(https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/9780316743006.jpg)

Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Hoodat on July 10, 2020, 09:05:06 pm
So I went to my book shelves and randomly selected a book yesterday and read the whole damn thing

My ADD simply won't allow that.  It takes me several months to complete a book.  Currently, I am almost done with Dune by Frank Herbert, after which I will start on Tolstoy's War and Peace.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 10, 2020, 09:16:16 pm

My post was moved and finally I found it. General Discussion



I apologize for that, @Slide Rule!  I moved it, because "Editorials," where it was originally, is for internet published Editorials.  This is "Original Content," and that usually goes into General Discussion or one of the Exclusive Content Categories.  No offense intended!
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Gefn on July 10, 2020, 09:59:30 pm
My ADD simply won't allow that.  It takes me several months to complete a book.  Currently, I am almost done with Dune by Frank Herbert, after which I will start on Tolstoy's War and Peace.

Always a good read with Heinlein. Personally my favorite book by Tolstoy is Anna Karenina.

I know Asimov’s Foundation and Huxley’s Brave New World are both coming out as made for TV movies shortly.

As for Boswell, best line in his book, “ but he is a very fine cat, a very fine cat indeed” about Hodge.  8888spinning cat 8888sitting kitty
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 10, 2020, 10:15:53 pm
   Heinlein loved Cats, and writes of them often throughout his novels. 
   Never understood that years ago when I first read these books but have sense become enlightened.  8888sitting kitty @Gefn
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Gefn on July 10, 2020, 10:21:56 pm
   Heinlein loved Cats, and writes of them often throughout his novels. 
   Never understood that years ago when I first read these books but have sense become enlightened.  8888sitting kitty @Gefn

I had a paperback of “The cat who could walk through walls” by Heinlein. It was the last book I read of his before he shuffled off his mortal coil.

Personally I liked his short stories better. His “roads must roll” which I read in a Hugo anthology I think, really stayed with me since Junior high when I first read it. It was my introduction to Heinlein.
@corbe.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Gefn on July 10, 2020, 10:26:38 pm
Btw, today is National Kitten Day.

(I thought we had an off topic emoji)
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 10, 2020, 10:33:30 pm
Always a good read with Heinlein. Personally my favorite book by Tolstoy is Anna Karenina.

I know Asimov’s Foundation and Huxley’s Brave New World are both coming out as made for TV movies shortly.

As for Boswell, best line in his book, “ but he is a very fine cat, a very fine cat indeed” about Hodge.  8888spinning cat 8888sitting kitty

I'd like Foundation!  I've read the series more than twice.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Hoodat on July 10, 2020, 10:53:34 pm
I'd like Foundation!  I've read the series more than twice.

Same here.  I also read his non-fiction when I was a kid.  Learned a lot about momentum and sub-atomic particles.

I tried Dostoevsky once, but didn't get very far.  My attempt with Tolstoy may be wishful thinking.  My only success with Russian authors has been Rand.

Science fiction-wise, I enjoyed reading Ann Leckie.  I got halfway through a series, but accidently left the book in an airport.  Never bought another copy.

If anyone has good Sci-Fi recommendations, please tell.  I have enjoyed Asimov and Herbert, but really don't know much about the genre.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 10, 2020, 11:11:35 pm
@Smokin Joe  Too bad about Asimov's Humanism.  He turned out to be a bit of a cranky old guy. :shrug:
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 11, 2020, 02:00:46 am
@Smokin Joe  Too bad about Asimov's Humanism.  He turned out to be a bit of a cranky old guy. :shrug:
Yep.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 03:16:35 am
I apologize for that, @Slide Rule!  I moved it, because "Editorials," where it was originally, is for internet published Editorials.  This is "Original Content," and that usually goes into General Discussion or one of the Exclusive Content Categories.  No offense intended!


No apology is needed. I appreciate your allowing me to vent about another forum. It is a welcome site to see Adults all around. This is a great forum.

I need to know how the forum works and normal operations. I find something most every day.

Thanks,
Al



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 11, 2020, 03:22:42 am
   I love this place @Slide Rule Great group of people and a tolerant Management.
   We have every chapter in the DSM-5 amongst us.
   
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 03:30:04 am
Always a good read with Heinlein. Personally my favorite book by Tolstoy is Anna Karenina.

I know Asimov’s Foundation and Huxley’s Brave New World are both coming out as made for TV movies shortly.

As for Boswell, best line in his book, “ but he is a very fine cat, a very fine cat indeed” about Hodge.
  8888spinning cat 8888sitting kitty




I haven't read many Russian authors but I have read most of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Solzhenitsyn
Reader is by Ericson and Mahoney. I met Mahoney at Hillsdale college and had an extensive conversation
with him. The Reader is a composite of Solzhenitsyn books. Everything Solzhenitsyn is highly recommended. Gulag Archipelago was my first and followed by Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, Red Wheel ( my favorite after Gulag), August 1914 and that series, and First Circle was exceptional.

I tried Dostoyevsky but couldn't get into it.


Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 03:33:19 am
   I love this place @Slide Rule Great group of people and a tolerant Management.
   We have every chapter in the DSM-5 amongst us.

 


What is DSM-5?
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: LilLamb on July 11, 2020, 04:37:42 am
I go to this forum and see other conservative sites through Parler.  If you go to Parler make sure you spell it right. It’s pronounced parlor but spelled Parler.  The parlor site tries to get your phone number.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Sighlass on July 11, 2020, 05:53:37 am
Mainly TOS (like one post a year lately) and here.... I have dabbled in a few others but just didn't feel right.... Facebook with political friends... Baptist Christian Forum (BaptistBoard) on rare occasion...  A Bushcraft forum and a P15/D24 forum (old Chrysler car forum). None of which I use my real name (or the same name)... I like a few Music Blogs... which I often share here but not many pay attention cept Smokin and Pookie.

Mainly here for the most part...
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 11:20:34 am
The geniuses at Skunk Works saved our bacon many times. The name works.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 11:42:47 am
   I love this place @Slide Rule Great group of people and a tolerant Management.
   We have every chapter in the DSM-5 amongst us.

 


Mental Disorders like Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition?

Don't tell me you are mostly loons. Perhaps that is why I don't see it. Every chapter represented? Is this book thick? My DuckDuckGo works.

My daughter works at a facility where those convicted of sexual crimes and have completed their sentences go for testing.
They are tested to see if they will be a repeat offender. If so they are kept there. Some will never be released. This is
in Wisconsin and a few other states. I asked her about the tests, but she declines to discuss it.

My daughter is a lefty due to poor parenting on my part but she is doing base conservative work.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 11, 2020, 01:27:30 pm



I haven't read many Russian authors but I have read most of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Solzhenitsyn
Reader is by Ericson and Mahoney. I met Mahoney at Hillsdale college and had an extensive conversation
with him. The Reader is a composite of Solzhenitsyn books. Everything Solzhenitsyn is highly recommended. Gulag Archipelago was my first and followed by Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, Red Wheel ( my favorite after Gulag), August 1914 and that series, and First Circle was exceptional.

I tried Dostoyevsky but couldn't get into it.


You went to Hillsdale?  Back in the day, my Grandmother's house was literally in the shadow of Hillsdale College...a block or so away.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Gefn on July 11, 2020, 01:34:15 pm



I haven't read many Russian authors but I have read most of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The Solzhenitsyn
Reader is by Ericson and Mahoney. I met Mahoney at Hillsdale college and had an extensive conversation
with him. The Reader is a composite of Solzhenitsyn books. Everything Solzhenitsyn is highly recommended. Gulag Archipelago was my first and followed by Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, Red Wheel ( my favorite after Gulag), August 1914 and that series, and First Circle was exceptional.

I tried Dostoyevsky but couldn't get into it.


I never read Solzhenitsyn but I have read Dostoyevsky. Just his Idiot. Of course it was eons ago back in college.

Now that the libraries are open again, I must get a few books out.

I do own a DSM IV-R but not a 5. I’m at a loss for all the new classifications (like autism and schizophrenia for examples)
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 11, 2020, 01:47:14 pm
I never read Solzhenitsyn but I have read Dostoyevsky. Just his Idiot. Of course it was eons ago back in college.

Now that the libraries are open again, I must get a few books out.

I do own a DSM IV-R but not a 5. I’m at a loss for all the new classifications (like autism and schizophrenia for examples)

My local library is open, but patrons are not allowed to touch any books.  Go figure.   9999hair out0000
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 05:16:46 pm
You went to Hillsdale?  Back in the day, my Grandmother's house was literally in the shadow of Hillsdale College...a block or so away.


Not as a student but to learn. They have seminars and I attended several with my departed friend Stan Marvin. I met Stan
at a health club. Turns out we both worked for the same company. He introduced me to many things conservative. I shall forever
remain indebted to him.

He took me to a dinner at Hillsdale. We sat at the head table. George Gilder, his wife and I believe his young son. I had never heard of Gilder. He spoke about Wealth and Poverty. Exceptional. I would never go to Hillsdale without reading something they had written.  A couple of years later Stan invited me to a week long seminar on The Cold War. Outstanding
people. And despite the magnitude of reading before I went, it was worth it. I spoke with M Stanton Evans almost every
evening. A fascinating guy.

Stan Marvin was a special guy, and by profession an accountant. His wife had taken a degree in Chemistry from Hillsdale.
Stan was wealthy but lived very modestly. His wealth came from an inherited farm. We drove by it on the trip there.

Stan gave everything to Hillsdale when he passed. I estimate about a million. In the meantime he gave a young woman a scholarship. Stan had no children.

I sat in on classes there, spoke with professors at length. It is a exceptional institution and if there is anyone in your
family nearing college age, I highly recommend it.

Hillsdale has speakers in typically on Friday and students are required to attend and participate. The students there will
impact the US and the world.

I took trips there with Stan about 8 times or so. Stan would light up with enthusiasm every time.

They also have a monthly subscription that highlights speakers and published in Imprimus. Free for the asking.







Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 05:26:06 pm
I never read Solzhenitsyn but I have read Dostoyevsky. Just his Idiot. Of course it was eons ago back in college.

Now that the libraries are open again, I must get a few books out.

I do own a DSM IV-R but not a 5. I’m at a loss for all the new classifications (like autism and schizophrenia for examples)



Solzhenitsyn is a good place to start. I found in the second volume of Gulag it hard to read. They were talking about
their favorite methods of torture. Hard sledding for me.

He wrote while in the Gulag without benefit of any writing or recording means. He wrote in his mind and then one week
a month he burnt it into memory with the aid of something similar of rosary beads, but his were base 10. After his 20
year release he said something extraordinary. The release was much like the arrest. Released prisoners needed a
government permit to work and to get a permit one needed a job. He was a skilled brick layer and electrician. Trades
he learned while confined as prison labor.

His writings halted the soviet government.

Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Hoodat on July 11, 2020, 05:34:56 pm
We sat at the head table. George Gilder, his wife and I believe his young son. I had never heard of Gilder. He spoke about Wealth and Poverty. Exceptional.

He also wrote a book about it.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416Y9GmOqTL._SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_.jpg)
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Hoodat on July 11, 2020, 05:37:56 pm
I do own a DSM IV-R but not a 5. I’m at a loss for all the new classifications (like autism and schizophrenia for examples)

I'm still pissed off that they got rid of ADD.  Now, it's all ADHD.  Without the hyperactivity, I have been discontinued.

(Or maybe ADD is now supernormal instead of abnormal)
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 11, 2020, 05:39:43 pm
I also read most of Franz Kafka. In one passage he said of the managers that they were so hard working
that they even worked through the night. A hidden reference to what they actually did. Torture.

I read the unfinished The Castle.

There is a collection of his works in a single book.
I recall The Trial, Metamorpsis, and Amerika.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 12, 2020, 01:57:46 am
He also wrote a book about it.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416Y9GmOqTL._SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_.jpg)


There is an earlier version about 1960 and more recent. It is a very good read and excellent
discussion of the how and why. He has written on a wide variety, but Wealth and Poverty
is his best work.

Amazing to discover such a vision while you are talking to the man. I never let that happen
again. Not knowing at least one publication of the speakers.
Al
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 12, 2020, 02:14:15 am
   TBR once had a great BOOK TREAD and perhaps still does, I've just since lost it, But spent many an hour in there and my Library is filled with Briefers recommendations, particularly @Bigun and his Constitutional Heart, quite a few others too.  I thank you all.   
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 12, 2020, 02:20:28 am
   TBR once had a great BOOK TREAD and perhaps still does, I've just since lost it, But spent many an hour in there and my Library is filled with Briefers recommendations, particularly @Bigun and his Constitutional Heart, quite a few others too.  I thank you all.   


Bigun has excellent posts.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 05:25:47 am

Mental Disorders like Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition?

Don't tell me you are mostly loons. Perhaps that is why I don't see it. Every chapter represented? Is this book thick? My DuckDuckGo works.

My daughter works at a facility where those convicted of sexual crimes and have completed their sentences go for testing.
They are tested to see if they will be a repeat offender. If so they are kept there. Some will never be released. This is
in Wisconsin and a few other states. I asked her about the tests, but she declines to discuss it.

My daughter is a lefty due to poor parenting on my part but she is doing base conservative work.
Give her time, she'll come around.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 12, 2020, 12:33:08 pm
Give her time, she'll come around.


I am, but the wait is painful. I once said something to her very direct. She quit talking to me.
It was years. Finally I called her, I had busted my elbow and they were going to reconstruct it.
I was leaving her a final message. She picked up the call and having me as her dad.

She was the goalie on a state champion field hockey team. There are no divisions and
her school had 80 girls. She had 20 some offers for college but declined.

She told me that she had something that her friends did not have. No college debt.
I raised her like I would a son. She is bright, tough, an outstanding listener and speaker.
Her math tested at 99.9 while mine is 99.8.

Her salary is exceptional but alas matched by their spending.







Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 12:43:33 pm

I am, but the wait is painful. I once said something to her very direct. She quit talking to me.
It was years. Finally I called her, I had busted my elbow and they were going to reconstruct it.
I was leaving her a final message. She picked up the call and having me as her dad.

She was the goalie on a state champion field hockey team. There are no divisions and
her school had 80 girls. She had 20 some offers for college but declined.

She told me that she had something that her friends did not have. No college debt.
I raised her like I would a son. She is bright, tough, an outstanding listener and speaker.
Her math tested at 99.9 while mine is 99.8.

Her salary is exceptional but alas matched by their spending.

I figure you've probably figured all this  out, but...
Keep the door open. Avoid what arguments you can (an amazing percentage), but note, if you must that "well, let's just agree to disagree about that." and take it no further.
Let her question her own beliefs, and come around in her own time.
That way she'll know why she believes what she believes, and may change her own mind when she sees holes in it, rather than be defensive and not see at all. 
I have been in a similar spot and know the pain of waiting as well.
But I have also placed her in the Hands of Almighty God, and he's done pretty well.

 
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 12, 2020, 01:40:27 pm
I figure you've probably figured all this  out, but...
Keep the door open. Avoid what arguments you can (an amazing percentage), but note, if you must that "well, let's just agree to disagree about that." and take it no further.
Let her question her own beliefs, and come around in her own time.
That way she'll know why she believes what she believes, and may change her own mind when she sees holes in it, rather than be defensive and not see at all. 
I have been in a similar spot and know the pain of waiting as well.
But I have also placed her in the Hands of Almighty God, and he's done pretty well.



Thanks for the advice and I do a number of things you mention.



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: bigheadfred on July 12, 2020, 02:17:04 pm
I've read most of the "classic" "sci-fi/fantasy" authors works.

 J.R.R. Tolkien, H.G. Wells, Isaac Asimov, Jules Verne, Arthur C. Clarke, Ray Bradbury, etc.

Some of the older works of classical literature.

Then Ludlum and Grisham.

Then Anne McCaffery types.

Philip K. Dick
Larry Niven
Likes to Orson Scott Card, Clifford D. Simak, and  Alan Dean Foster (Alien). I like his writing style. But that is me.

I have been reading more "fluff" sci-fi these last couple of years. Not to learn anything. Just for entertainment.

I stay away from King and Koontz.

I got Kindle Unlimited and an 8" Amazon Fire tablet. I don't watch "TV". I watch Youtube.

I am reading my 43rd book this year. Half-assed, I mean half-fast speed reading.

@Slide Rule
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 12, 2020, 04:59:51 pm
I am more into non fiction, though I do on occasion read a novel. Franz Kafka was my last.
My reading is mostly about history, politics, technology, mathematics, and science. There
are some good recommendations in my sig line.

A few years ago I read a fascinating book on Huey Long. It was a fawning account, but it
is easy to note Longs lack of moral principle. He did campaign much like Trump. He was a
force and held the balance for FDR at the convention. Then FDR tossed him aside for his
trouble. Crooks are interesting reading. Read about 20 books on FDR.  FDR and the Bonus
Marchers, 1933,35 by Gary Dean Best is outstanding but very hard to find. Best wrote a
number of books on FDR. Best was not a fan.


Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: corbe on July 12, 2020, 05:12:02 pm
   Being from Louisiana originally, I have read extensively on Huey P. Long.  The similarities with the Trump Campaign are astounding to me, also @Slide Rule 
   William Jennings Bryan was also quite the character and worth study as a student of History.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 13, 2020, 11:44:49 am
   Being from Louisiana originally, I have read extensively on Huey P. Long.  The similarities with the Trump Campaign are astounding to me, also @Slide Rule 
   William Jennings Bryan was also quite the character and worth study as a student of History.



Huey was lining up votes for FDR at the convention. He met resistance from nearby states. He told them if they did not
fall in for FDR, he would come to their state and campaine for their opponents. They folded and in the end FDR double
crossed Huey. It was the normal FDR response.

Huey finally built a home as his wife suggested. It was a beautiful spanish style. He slept in if before it was complete. On the
door there was a iron sculpture of three initials. Beautiful work, but they were not Huey's initials. No. They were the initials
of a Bank that Huey had defeated in court. The bank that paid for Huey's home. It made for a conversation starter. He knew how to rub it in.

Huey Long, by T Harry Williams.  Yep, Williams loved everything about Huey thus the fawning account.



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 13, 2020, 04:38:20 pm
This one. I don't recommend any others. Arguing about politics is unhealthy.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 13, 2020, 09:18:29 pm
This one. I don't recommend any others. Arguing about politics is unhealthy.


This is an excellent forum. I do like conflict, especially when it is about politics. In any event vote.

Al
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: roamer_1 on July 13, 2020, 09:31:33 pm

This is an excellent forum. I do like conflict, especially when it is about politics. In any event vote.

Al

I guess I do not like conflict... Not in terms of people shouting others down... not in terms of nazis on either side MAKING people go their way... I like the debate. especially on deep things. the actual principles of things. Which politics seldom has. But statesmanship does, and every now and then, something grand comes up.

And I have several political forum affiliations, I only use the one.
Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: Slide Rule on July 13, 2020, 10:20:22 pm
I guess I do not like conflict... Not in terms of people shouting others down... not in terms of nazis on either side MAKING people go their way... I like the debate. especially on deep things. the actual principles of things. Which politics seldom has. But statesmanship does, and every now and then, something grand comes up.

And I have several political forum affiliations, I only use the one.



I have a backup plan for the shouters, nazis, and in your face sorts.

My father taught me to fight. I have had hundreds of fights. Last loss was in the 3rd grade. Dad had his last fight
when he was 85 with a 35 year old punk. I told dad, he should cut back some. Dad raised an animal, even my wrestling
coach called me animal. I don't advise this unless the neighborhood is as bad as ours was. He did not train my three
younger brothers.

I like a close in situation. I also wrestled in HS. Balance and speed are killers.

All of this winning slowed down mental development. I took that up in the 8th grade.

We all have flaws, this is one of mine.



Title: Re: What Political Forums do you belong to and recommend? -Slide Rule
Post by: roamer_1 on July 14, 2020, 12:12:47 am

I have a backup plan for the shouters, nazis, and in your face sorts.

My father taught me to fight. I have had hundreds of fights. Last loss was in the 3rd grade. Dad had his last fight
when he was 85 with a 35 year old punk. I told dad, he should cut back some. Dad raised an animal, even my wrestling
coach called me animal. I don't advise this unless the neighborhood is as bad as ours was. He did not train my three
younger brothers.

I like a close in situation. I also wrestled in HS. Balance and speed are killers.

All of this winning slowed down mental development. I took that up in the 8th grade.

We all have flaws, this is one of mine.


Yeah. I came up knockin heads too - But that is something different. something visceral in me that is different than intellect. THIS is an intellectual pursuit, which is a lot of why I find Tump and Tumpism an offense normally. 'Wrestling with pigs' and all that, as it were.