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Title: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on March 15, 2024, 10:50:01 pm
Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
By Jeff Charles | 4:54 PM on March 15, 2024

Former Vice President Mike Pence announced that he is not endorsing Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election. The announcement comes shortly after Trump sealed the GOP presidential nomination and is poised to take on President Joe Biden in November.

Pence made the announcement during an appearance on Fox News.

    Former Vice President Mike Pence has declined to endorse his onetime running mate, former President Trump, in a bombshell announcement Friday.

    "It should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year," Pence said.

    "I'm incredibly proud of the record of our administration. It was a conservative record that made America more prosperous, more secure and saw conservatives appointed to our courts in a more peaceful world."

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https://redstate.com/jeffc/2024/03/15/mike-pence-makes-announcement-about-whether-he-will-endorse-donald-trump-n2171444
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 15, 2024, 10:56:30 pm
DILLIGAF what Pence thinks?
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: corbe on March 15, 2024, 11:50:45 pm
   When he let sit on his Gov's Desk the 'Religious Freedom' Bill that he had fought so hard in the Indiana Legislature for at Trump's insistence; I learned all I need to know about him. 
   And to think he WAS a Darling of Newt's Contract with America, along with Paul Ryan.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Wingnut on March 15, 2024, 11:51:00 pm
His own former running mate won't endorse him.  Now that's saying something!

Pence is a flake.  He always seemed like he was on his period and riding a cotton pony.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: corbe on March 15, 2024, 11:56:05 pm
    Probably explains why he didn't want to be alone with a Woman in the same room, he was afraid of him becoming on the same cycle.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on March 16, 2024, 12:33:57 am

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They say Mike Pence's testicles grew three sizes when he announced he would not endorse Tangnerine Mussolini.


Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 12:35:33 am
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They say Mike Pence's testicles grew three sizes when he announced he would not endorse Tangnerine Mussolini.


 000hehehehe
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 01:27:47 am
Pence is,and has always been a punk.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 01:29:13 am
His own former running mate won't endorse him.  Now that's saying something!

@Jack Russell

You really need a new hobby.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: corbe on March 16, 2024, 01:34:58 am
   It's OK, Stormy and Karen will endorse him to make up for Melania's and Pence's non endorsement.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2024, 01:48:54 am
Why would anybody care what Pence thinks?  I think we all new he would verify he's a Never.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on March 16, 2024, 02:20:35 am
Honestly I don’t like the hatred shoved at Pence.  I think he was a good man and a solid one.  He was quiet.  IOW, knew unlike his boss the mantra of “better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: cato potatoe on March 16, 2024, 03:37:14 am
His own former running mate won't endorse him.  Now that's saying something!

Pence left him hanging, you might say. 
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 16, 2024, 04:24:56 am
Pence is,and has always been a punk.

Actually, considering what Trump has said publicly about Pence, the "punk" move would be to go full beta and support him anyway.   Better for Pence to stand up on hind legs and say "no".  He owes Trump less than nothing anyway.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 16, 2024, 04:26:07 am
Honestly I don’t like the hatred shoved at Pence.  I think he was a good man and a solid one.  He was quiet.  IOW, knew unlike his boss the mantra of “better to be silent and thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”.

Agree.  Pence is a decent man.  Not a great leader or anything, but fundamentally a decent guy who did the right thing and followed the Constitution despite horrific pressure from Trump and his minions.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 09:45:01 am
Agree.  Pence is a decent man.  Not a great leader or anything, but fundamentally a decent guy who did the right thing and followed the Constitution despite horrific pressure from Trump and his minions.

And following the constitution is kryptonite to MAGA

Yet how do you think they’d react if Harris does what they wanted Pence to do should Trump win?
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 16, 2024, 09:47:36 am
Pence is a 2000's leader.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 16, 2024, 10:32:14 am
His own former running mate won't endorse him.  Now that's saying something!
I am sure that is mutual.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 11:26:44 am
You rabid anti-Rude Orange Man losers are hysterical. You will worship a pig's butt if the pig comes out against Trump.

It won't surprise me to see you coming out and embracing Biden when the campaign really gets going. One of you will admire the way he is standing up to the rude,rich,orange bully,and the rest of you will be nodding and saying "un-huh,un-hun,un-hun" to yourselves as you are typing agreement replies
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 11:55:15 am
You rabid anti-Rude Orange Man losers are hysterical. You will worship a pig's butt if the pig comes out against Trump.

It won't surprise me to see you coming out and embracing Biden when the campaign really gets going. One of you will admire the way he is standing up to the rude,rich,orange bully,and the rest of you will be nodding and saying "un-huh,un-hun,un-hun" to yourselves as you are typing agreement replies

An online meltdown  happy77

You really become unhinged when you see any thing negative regarding Donald Trump.


Nobody here supports Biden regardless of whether they are going to vote Trump or not. And you know that’s true despite your lashing out and meltdown
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 04:58:51 pm
An online meltdown  happy77

You really become unhinged when you see any thing negative regarding Donald Trump.


Nobody here supports Biden regardless of whether they are going to vote Trump or not. And you know that’s true despite your lashing out and meltdown

@LMAO

No,I do NOT know that is true.

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd,it is a freaking turd!

There ARE going to be two choices of who to vote for,Biden or Trump. There is a MASSIVE difference in the way each of them considers to be  the way to govern the US,and NOT voting does NOT excuse you if the Dims manage to steal and cast enough phoney votes from illegal aliens to steal the election.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 16, 2024, 05:08:59 pm
@LMAO

No,I do NOT know that is true.

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd,it is a freaking turd!

There ARE going to be two choices of who to vote for,Biden or Trump. There is a MASSIVE difference in the way each of them considers to be  the way to govern the US,and NOT voting does NOT excuse you if the Dims manage to steal and cast enough phoney votes from illegal aliens to steal the election.

@sneakypete

Voting is not binary, it's not either the Dem or the GOP.  There are other choices people choose, like voting third party, writing somebody in, or leaving the section for President blank.  Just because somebody won't vote for Trump does not mean they support Shortbus Joe.

I go through this every Presidential Election, and 2024 isn't different AFAIC.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: cato potatoe on March 16, 2024, 05:09:15 pm
There ARE going to be two choices of who to vote for,Biden or Trump. There is a MASSIVE difference in the way each of them considers to be  the way to govern the US,and NOT voting does NOT excuse you if the Dims manage to steal and cast enough phoney votes from illegal aliens to steal the election.

There is a material difference with how they handle judicial nominees and immigration.  If that's all you care about, and Trump's lunacy does not concern you, then the choice is obvious.  But you had better accept that most people view the world differently, or you will continue to be frustrated.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 05:32:09 pm
There is a material difference with how they handle judicial nominees and immigration.  If that's all you care about, and Trump's lunacy does not concern you, then the choice is obvious.  But you had better accept that most people view the world differently, or you will continue to be frustrated.

Those two issues, immigration and judges, are probably  two issues were Biden and Trump are opposite along with domestic energy production

But the claim that there’s a massive difference between how Trump and Biden view government and its role is simply not backed up by the record. Both believe in spending money we don’t have. Both believe in growing the size of the government. Both believe in printing money to fund deficits. Both support bailouts.  Both support protectionist tariffs.

Trump’s lunacy, and his behaviors,  is just the cherry on top of an already turd Sundae. I could put up with all of that if the trade-off was reducing federal spending and the size and scope of the federal government.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 05:47:14 pm
Those two issues, immigration and judges, are probably  two issues were Biden and Trump are opposite along with domestic energy production

But the claim that there’s a massive difference between how Trump and Biden view government and its role is simply not backed up by the record. Both believe in spending money we don’t have. Both believe in growing the size of the government. Both believe in printing money to fund deficits. Both support bailouts.  Both support protectionist tariffs.

Trump’s lunacy, and his behaviors,  is just the cherry on top of an already turd Sundae. I could put up with all of that if the trade-off was reducing federal spending and the size and scope of the federal government.

@LMAO

EVERYTHING is about money to you. There is more to both  life and politics than money.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 05:53:18 pm
@LMAO

EVERYTHING is about money to you. There is more to both  life and politics than money.

You do understand that a growing centralized government and a government that funds itself with huge deficits and prints and devalues its currency is a threat to the standard of living  and the freedom of people in this country, correct?

That means more to me than upsetting the ladies on “The View”
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: roamer_1 on March 16, 2024, 06:29:08 pm
@LMAO

No,I do NOT know that is true.

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd,it is a freaking turd!

There ARE going to be two choices of who to vote for,Biden or Trump. There is a MASSIVE difference in the way each of them considers to be  the way to govern the US

No there is not.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: roamer_1 on March 16, 2024, 06:35:23 pm
@LMAO

EVERYTHING is about money to you. There is more to both  life and politics than money.

When that money is financing every liberal wet dream, and under-girds the very swamp you say he'll drain, that money becomes a pretty good indicator.

I care about the money. But I care more for liberty. The money is just related to the power. Take away the money, take away the power, and liberty is safe, and blooms.

That's why the money matters.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 16, 2024, 07:05:00 pm
@LMAO

EVERYTHING is about money to you. There is more to both  life and politics than money.
You'd think so, but look at the way things are these days...and the two guys on top of the ballot are a billionaire and America's greatest pay-to-pay grifter politician.

Life? Yeah, there are far more important things than money. But politics, the money owns it now.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 16, 2024, 07:08:30 pm
Friendly reminder that Mike Pence was specifically chosen because he was everything Donald Trump wasn't: a midwesterner, Christian, family man. He was added to the ticket to draw reluctant voters.

So the fact that a guy who was basically the opposite of Donald Trump isn't endorsing him this time around should come as absolutely no surprise. Well, maybe. The GOP apparatus could, I suppose, have forced Pence to endorse Trump—at least in the Ron DeSantis "I'm only doing this because I'm bound by contract" sense.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 08:50:59 pm
You do understand that a growing centralized government and a government that funds itself with huge deficits and prints and devalues its currency is a threat to the standard of living  and the freedom of people in this country, correct?


@LMAO

Yes,but it's not LIFE.

btw,just exactly  how do you  figure you are helping improve things by sitting on your ass and not voting?
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 08:52:22 pm
No there is not.

@roamer_1

You are delusional.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: roamer_1 on March 16, 2024, 08:54:54 pm
@roamer_1

You are delusional.

Seriously.

No, seriously, there is not.

Liberalism grew in leaps and bounds under both presidents @sneakypete
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: roamer_1 on March 16, 2024, 08:57:08 pm
@LMAO

Yes,but it's not LIFE.

Yes, in fact, it is... in the end. The direction this country is going in always ends the same, kneeling at a ditch with a gun to your head... No small thing.

Quote
btw,just exactly  how do you  figure you are helping improve things by sitting on your ass and not voting?

By NOT voting for liberalism? You're kidding, right?

@sneakypete
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 08:57:57 pm
You'd think so, but look at the way things are these days...and the two guys on top of the ballot are a billionaire and America's greatest pay-to-pay grifter politician.

 

@jmyrlefuller

Yeah,but what is wrong with  already being a billionaire,compared to the guy in office that is trying to STEAL billions and getting kickbacks.

Trumps massive ego and the fact that he is already wealthy despite the left trying to steal all his money IS his strong feature. He is old and knows he won't be around much longer,and there is NOTHING more important to him that how he gets written about in the history books,and what he wants as much as life itself  is to go down in history as "The President  that saved America".

And he will only have 4 years to do it,so he won't be wasting any time spending money to try to get re-elected.

What we should all focus on is finding a VERY strong conservative VP to run with him.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 09:01:01 pm
@LMAO

Yes,but it's not LIFE.

btw,just exactly  how do you  figure you are helping improve things by sitting on your ass and not voting?

I’m voting down ticket.

Are you aware that of all the posters on this forum, you become the most hostile when anyone doesn’t share the same love for Trump as you do? When Trump is criticized or attacked, you personally attack that person vs countering any point they made

Every reason I listed for choosing not to vote for Trump is backed by his own words, political positions, and record. I’ve made no false claims regarding him.

And it’s the record vs the fantasy is why and how I made my choice. You choose differently. That’s what America is about. Freedom to chose

Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 09:05:34 pm
Friendly reminder that Mike Pence was specifically chosen because he was everything Donald Trump wasn't: a midwesterner, Christian, family man. He was added to the ticket to draw reluctant voters.




@jmyrlefuller

Yup,Pence was the candy offered to the fools,and sadly,typical of the usual useless POS that got the RNC nod.

Reagan saved the RNC and America,and then the RINO's started getting their whiny little weasel bitches elected.

It took Trump to come aboard and save America during the one term he got,and then the asshats were able to cheat and get another globalist thief in office,with the help of the Class Envy idiots.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: 240B on March 16, 2024, 09:12:40 pm
(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5eb835015af441fe3976da8f/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Mike-Pence.jpg)(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/82ea503f-dcfe-4a57-99a5-13f1db2a527f_1.483a7e21bf93a4685812b7515e5c66dc.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff)
Which one has more love of life?
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 09:18:53 pm
(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5eb835015af441fe3976da8f/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Mike-Pence.jpg)(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/82ea503f-dcfe-4a57-99a5-13f1db2a527f_1.483a7e21bf93a4685812b7515e5c66dc.jpeg?odnWidth=1000&odnHeight=1000&odnBg=ffffff)
Which one has more love of life?

He is one dull individual
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 09:39:58 pm
I agree....   Pence is a decent man.  He knows the true Trump and apparently doesn't like what he sees.

@Jack Russell

You will agree with Putin if he attacks Trump.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 09:53:23 pm
@Jack Russell

You will agree with Putin if he attacks Trump.

LOL

And there you go again!!!
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on March 16, 2024, 10:11:09 pm
Fishrrman to Mr. Pence:
Well, Mike, I guess your name just got crossed off "the list"...
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: mountaineer on March 17, 2024, 12:08:20 am
Not his finest moment:

Tucker: "Every city in America has become worse over the past few years... Your concern is that Ukraine don't have enough tanks... Where's the concern for America in that?"

Pence: "That's not my concern."
https://twitter.com/DavidYeshua4/status/1768780576021008770
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: mountaineer on March 17, 2024, 11:59:30 am
Mike Pence Pandering To D.C. Media Is Pathetic And Disqualifying
Any candidate who is playing footsie with the propaganda press, in an incomprehensible ploy to curry favor with them, disqualifies himself from contention.
By: Mollie Hemingway
March 14, 2023
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On Saturday night, former Vice President Mike Pence addressed the annual Gridiron Club dinner, a white-tie gathering of Beltway media and political insiders. He took the opportunity to praise the D.C. media, attack Tucker Carlson, and condemn Donald Trump.

“History will hold Donald Trump accountable for Jan. 6,” Pence said. “Make no mistake about it: What happened that day was a disgrace, and it mocks decency to portray it in any other way,” Pence said of Tucker Carlson’s journalism, which is at odds with the official narrative.

Pence praised the corporate media as well, saying, “We were able to stay at our post in part because you stayed at your post. The American people know what happened that day because you never stopped reporting.”

As if Pence’s views on the virtues of the propaganda press weren’t disappointing enough, his handlers bragged to the same media that he had lavished them with praise and attacked Trump and Carlson as part of his long-shot campaign to win the Republican nomination for president.

Really. According to a new Politico article, the Pence team intentionally crafted their remarks because they “believed it would help Pence win over his most skeptical audience these days: Washington insiders and journalists.” ...
More at The Federalist (https://thefederalist.com/2023/03/14/mike-pence-pandering-to-d-c-media-is-pathetic-and-disqualifying/)
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on March 17, 2024, 02:23:08 pm
Of course it could be taken out of context, I don't know....but it sure is disappointing.

Considering Pence is maybe one of the most measured and careful and measured pols in the GOP slate of late.  He is not prone to verbal gaffes. He meant what he said, and his Tiger Swamp stripes came shining through.

And prasing the media?  That's just makes it worse.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 17, 2024, 11:28:36 pm
Not his finest moment:

Tucker: "Every city in America has become worse over the past few years... Your concern is that Ukraine don't have enough tanks... Where's the concern for America in that?"

Pence: "That's not my concern."
https://twitter.com/DavidYeshua4/status/1768780576021008770

I remember when leftists used to make the exact same argument Tucker is making. I'm not saying I disagree necessarily but it's odd how we've come full circle.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: mountaineer on March 17, 2024, 11:33:46 pm
I remember when leftists used to make the exact same argument Tucker is making. I'm not saying I disagree necessarily but it's odd how we've come full circle.
Who expected the Democrats to become the warmonger party?
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 18, 2024, 01:12:12 am
Who expected the Democrats to become the warmonger party?

Me.  And you.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: corbe on March 18, 2024, 01:24:46 am
   I guess I stay too stoned to remember anything other than this 30 second commercial from the War Criminal himself, LBJ in 64 against Goldwater. 

(https://thebulletin.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/203.02_Daisy-Girl-1536x1122.jpg)

   It was much later that I realized dems can be anything they want to be, just like the nominated Republican President.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: GtHawk on March 18, 2024, 03:40:47 am
Who expected the Democrats to become the warmonger party?
I think the dems have the going to war record*


Madison (D) - War of 1812

Polk (D) - Mexican War

McKinley (R) - Spanish American War

Woodrow Wilson (D)- WWI

FDR (D) - WWII

Truman (D) - Korea

Kennedy/LBJ (D)- Vietnam

Ronaldus Maximus (R)- Cold War

GHWB (R) - Gulf War

Bill 'Blow Job' Clinton (D) - who and where didn't he have the US fighting or bombing?

GWB (R)- Afghanistan, Iraq

BO (D)- Gotta put a link https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html

Trump (R) - No Harm No Fowl?

Biden (Dumbass) - God Help Us WWIII THE WAR TO BURN DOWN THE WORD!

* not counting Revolutionary or Civil War
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 18, 2024, 05:30:39 am
Of course it could be taken out of context, I don't know....but it sure is disappointing.

It was.  You can tell there's something fishy going on by the ellipses in the question.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 18, 2024, 11:07:32 am
I think the dems have the going to war record*


Madison (D) - War of 1812

Polk (D) - Mexican War

McKinley (R) - Spanish American War

Woodrow Wilson (D)- WWI

FDR (D) - WWII

Ike(R) - Korea

Kennedy/LBJ (D)- Vietnam

Ronaldus Maximus (R)- Cold War

GHWB (R) - Gulf War

Bill 'Blow Job' Clinton (D) - who and where didn't he have the US fighting or bombing?

GWB (R)- Afghanistan, Iraq

BO (D)- Gotta put a link https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html

Trump (R) - No Harm No Fowl?

Biden (Dumbass) - God Help Us WWIII THE WAR TO BURN DOWN THE WORD!

* not counting Revolutionary or Civil War


Korea was Harry Truman(D)
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: GtHawk on March 18, 2024, 02:33:42 pm
Korea was Harry Truman(D)
My BAD! I thought I was being careful but.........I'll blame it on the meds (https://i.imgur.com/Z9GVHXM.jpg?3)

Thanks for catching it, I'll correct my post :beer:
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: kevindavis007 on March 18, 2024, 04:01:40 pm
Who expected the Democrats to become the warmonger party?


Who expected Republicans to be the pro-Russia party? You know the country led by a former KGB agent who wants to bring back the Soviet Union!
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: mountaineer on March 18, 2024, 05:36:28 pm
Who expected Republicans to be the pro-Russia party? You know the country led by a former KGB agent who wants to bring back the Soviet Union!
Not all Republicans. Your description of Putin is spot-on. He's a commie. I don't like commies, any more than I like grifters or warmongers.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 18, 2024, 05:45:38 pm

Who expected Republicans to be the pro-Russia party? You know the country led by a former KGB agent who wants to bring back the Soviet Union!

Yeah, there is a pretty vocal pro-Russia component within MAGA.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 18, 2024, 06:07:26 pm
Neo conservativism had a sort of falling out after bush/Iraq and the loss of the 2008 and 2012 elections. Frankly I don't really blame people for not digging it anymore. The Iraq war handed the country to the Dems on a silver platter IMO. That is just an obvious statement. I think it's perfectly possible to be against neoconservatism and not be "pro-Russia".
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on March 18, 2024, 08:38:52 pm
Neo conservativism had a sort of falling out after bush/Iraq and the loss of the 2008 and 2012 elections. Frankly I don't really blame people for not digging it anymore. The Iraq war handed the country to the Dems on a silver platter IMO. That is just an obvious statement. I think it's perfectly possible to be against neoconservatism and not be "pro-Russia".

There a difference between saying "no more American money", and rooting for Russia to win.

The one thing I do wish more people knew was that Ukraine sent troops to Afghanistan when they weren't even members of NATO.  Even if you don't support sending money, the "why should we even care about Ukraine" idea promoted by some (not saying you)  kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: LMAO on March 18, 2024, 09:03:38 pm
There a difference between saying "no more American money", and rooting for Russia to win.


Yup

Just like  being against a war doesn’t mean you’re rooting for the enemy. But, if one repeats and amplifies the propaganda of the enemy, or sits on an anti-aircraft, gun of the enemy, then, is fair to question that person’s loyalties
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 22, 2024, 10:11:56 am
Not all Republicans. Your description of Putin is spot-on. He's a commie. I don't like commies, any more than I like grifters or warmongers.
Frankly, when it comes to totalitarians and thieves, I really don't care what nationality, skin color, professed religion, sexual preference, pronouns they use, or about their relationships with the family pets or hired help. They should all be done away with.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 22, 2024, 10:18:07 am
Yeah, there is a pretty vocal pro-Russia component within MAGA.
I see That as a  knee-jerk reaction to Poroshenko and Biden's former relationship. Zelensky,  imho, is doing what he must  for Ukraine to survive. Some solutions require a fight.
Title: Re: Mike Pence Makes Announcement About Whether He Will Endorse Donald Trump
Post by: GtHawk on March 23, 2024, 06:40:03 am
Frankly, when it comes to totalitarians and thieves, I really don't care what nationality, skin color, professed religion, sexual preference, pronouns they use, or about their relationships with the family pets or hired help. They should all be done away with.
You realize that you're sounding pretty totalitarian there? Not that I disagree with you :silly: :silly: