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BALTIMORE MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES FREDDIE GRAY DEATH A HOMICIDE, STATE'S ATTORNEY ANNOUNCES 'PROBABLE CAUSE' TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST POLICE
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Warrant issued for the arrest of police officers
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From criminal.findlaw.com:
"Not all homicides are crimes. Homicides include all killings of humans. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal."
Negligent homicide seems a possibility here.
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bkmk
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From criminal.findlaw.com:
"Not all homicides are crimes. Homicides include all killings of humans. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal."
Negligent homicide seems a possibility here.
Agreed. It is also the pragmatic (read: easy) way out for the moment. You can just hear them saying, " let the process sort it out".
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/prosecutor-probable-cause-believe-freddie-grays-death-homicide_935631.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/prosecutor-probable-cause-believe-freddie-grays-death-homicide_935631.html)
Prosecutor: 'Probable Cause' to Believe Freddie Gray's Death a Homicide
10:49 AM, May 1, 2015 • By DANIEL HALPER
A Maryland prosecutor announced charges will be filed against police officers in the death Baltimore man Freddie Gray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACwPwrLaEd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACwPwrLaEd0)
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-mosby-presser-0502-20150501-story.html
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The officers are being charged with a number of counts of manslaughter, assault and misconduct.
Officer Caeser B. Goodson, Jr. was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, two counts of manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
Officer William G. Porter was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Lt. Brian W. Rice was charged with involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Edward M. Nero charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Garret Miller charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Sgt. Alicia White involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Warrants have been issued for the officers involved in the death of Freddie Gray.
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She'll never make second-degree murder stick. She's trying to get pleas and have them turn on each other. Standard practice.
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What the hell is "depraved heart murder"? What does that even mean?
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So, exactly how did this young gentle perfect citizen with a yellow sheet as long as your arm die?
Did he hit a bolt in the police van and break his neck???
Was he unconscious and not given medical attention?
Did the officers beat him up?
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What the hell is "depraved heart murder"? What does that even mean?
On law and order they call it depraved indifference.
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The officers are being charged with a number of counts of manslaughter, assault and misconduct.
Officer Caeser B. Goodson, Jr. was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, two counts of manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
Officer William G. Porter was charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Lt. Brian W. Rice was charged with involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Edward M. Nero charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Officer Garret Miller charged with two counts of second-degree assault, two counts of misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
Sgt. Alicia White involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Warrants have been issued for the officers involved in the death of Freddie Gray.
any pics of the cops yet?
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What the hell is "depraved heart murder"? What does that even mean?
per Wikipedia:
Depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an American legal term for an action that demonstrates a "callous disregard for human life" and results in death. In most states, depraved heart killings constitute second-degree murder.
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Agreed. It is also the pragmatic (read: easy) way out for the moment. You can just hear them saying, " let the process sort it out".
I agree. I think they hope to calm things down with some kind of charge.
And, depending what the facts really turn out to be, they may well have been negligent in getting him the medical attention he needed.
That's not murder, and eventually the mob could rise up again and say its not enough, if they charge the police with negligent homicide.
Time will tell......
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As this progresses, I wonder at what point the LEO's say, "enough".
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http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/freddie-gray-homicide-prosecutor/2015/05/01/id/642014/ (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/freddie-gray-homicide-prosecutor/2015/05/01/id/642014/)
Six Officers Charged in Freddie Gray's Death
excerpt:
Mosby swiftly rejected a request from the Baltimore police officers union asking her to appoint a special independent prosecutor because of her ties to attorney Billy Murphy, who is representing Gray's family. Murphy was among Mosby's biggest campaign contributors last year, donating the maximum individual amount allowed, $4,000, in June. Murphy also served on Mosby's transition team after the election.
Fraternal Order of Police local president Gene Ryan told Mosby in a letter before the charges were announced Friday that none of the six suspended officers were responsible for Gray's death.
The state medical examiner's office said it sent the autopsy report to prosecutors Friday morning. Spokesman Bruce Goldfarb says the Office of the Chief State Medical Examiner will not release the report publicly while the case is under investigation.
The announcement prompted whoops, hollers and shouts of "Justice!" in the streets of Baltimore.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/freddie-gray-homicide-prosecutor/2015/05/01/id/642014/#ixzz3Yu5oFXdE
none of us knows all the evidence but I am positive these officers will not receive a fair trial...jmo
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I just heard Mosby say, "This is our time."
It reminded me of the Denzel Washington line in "Remember the Titans".......... only that was a football movie and he was talking about winning as a team.
Makes me wonder what "team" Mosby thinks she's on.........
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Will they make the 6 cops do the perp walk? I see from one photo of the 3 cops arresting him they are white. Anyone know if the other 3 are?
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Questions raised over links between Freddie Gray attorney and Baltimore chief prosecutor: Dead man's family lawyer was among biggest campaign donors AND 'mentor' to official who has indicted six cops on murder charges
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3063807/Baltimores-prosecutor-faces-big-test-4-months-job.html
State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby, 35, is in charge of the investigation into the death of Freddie Gray after four months in the job
She announced on Friday morning that Gray's death was a homicide
Arrest warrants issued for all 6 officers who detained and drove Freddie Gray, 25, on April 12
A veteran Baltimore defense attorney, Warren Brown, said Mosby was under huge pressure to indict and had close links to Gray's family attorney
Billy Murphy donated to Mosby's campaign and has been described as 'mentor' to her
Brown had connections to Mosby’s opponent in the election for State’s Attorney last year
The 25-year-old died after sustaining a spinal cord injury in police custody last month following an arrest. He died in hospital days later
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As this progresses, I wonder at what point the LEO's say, "enough".
The white ones should be thinking hard about whether they really want to work in black-controlled cities.
We may get to 'blacks po-licing blacks' by a different route than I first thought, but we'll get there...
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As this progresses, I wonder at what point the LEO's say, "enough".
You mean the public says enough ..I think rioters and looters should be shot DEAD .but there is no excuse for" nickel rides" and other police bullshit
This is supposed to be the United States
not some tin pot banana republic
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
I can't see how a person can be injured so severely without someone having been negligent or criminal. Shouldn't he have at least been belted into a seat?
Why don't we know any more about what happened than we do? Should we have an incident and/or autopsy report by now?
Why are 6 officers being charged? Seems that at most 3 were involved in the portion of his arrest & transport where the injuries were said to have happened.
I don't care for the barely suppressed notion that the black officials of Baltimore are going to "make things right", so to speak. Everybody knows that the mob wants someone's blood no matter the facts.
Then there's the lawyer for the family mentioned upthread . . .
I suspect an innocent cop (or 3) will get railroaded and whoever is guilty won't get what they deserve.
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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Should we have an incident and/or autopsy report by now?
Autopsy report was turned straight over to the public prosecutor rather than being made public. Make of that what you will.
Stinks on ice though - both ways.
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"Makes me wonder what "team" Mosby thinks she's on.........
oh, I don't think there's any question about that....
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The court of public opinion is quick, and often inaccurate, but I think it's safe to say that these officers are in deep do do.
I'm sure the lesser offenders will turn against the greater offenders.
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"Makes me wonder what "team" Mosby thinks she's on.........
oh, I don't think there's any question about that....
I know.
It was a rhetorical question.
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FIRST PICTURE: One of the six cops charged over Freddie Gray's homicide after Baltimore State Attorney says victim was illegally arrested
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3064367/Baltimore-State-Attorney-says-criminal-charges-filed-against-officers-Gray-s-arrest-illegal-knife-carrying-lawful.html
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/30/police-officer-in-freddie-gray-arrest-once-hospitalized-over-mental-health
BALTIMORE – The highest-ranking Baltimore police officer in the arrest that led to Freddie Gray's death was hospitalized in April 2012 over mental health concerns for an unknown duration and had his guns confiscated by local sheriff's deputies, according to records from the sheriff's office and court obtained by The Associated Press.
Lt. Brian Rice, who initially pursued Gray on a Baltimore street when Gray fled after Rice made eye contact April 12, declared three years ago that he "could not continue to go on like this" and threatened to commit an act that was censored in the public version of a report obtained by the AP from the Carroll County, Maryland, Sheriff's Office. Rice lived in the county, about 35 miles northwest of Baltimore. At the time, deputies were responding to a request to check on his welfare by a fellow Baltimore police officer who is the mother of Rice's son.
Deputies reported that Rice appeared "normal and soft spoken" and said he had been seeking "sympathy and attention." But citing "credible information," the deputies confiscated both his official and personal guns, called his commanding officer and transported Rice to the Carroll Hospital Center. The weapons included his .40-caliber police pistol, a 9 mm handgun, an AK-47-style rifle, a .22-caliber
No HIPAA for you!
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Hey, Freddie Gray was arrested TWENTY TIMES in his 24 years on earth, and all were for distribution of drugs.
So there's that.........
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Hey, Freddie Gray was arrested TWENTY TIMES in his 24 years on earth, and all were for distribution of drugs.
So there's that.........
The system actually failed Freddie. Had he been in jail serving time instead of the prosecutors' deciding not to incarcerate, he'd be alive today.
So there's that, too...... :laugh:
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"Makes me wonder what "team" Mosby thinks she's on.........
oh, I don't think there's any question about that....
Just heard a report on Greta's show that this is grounds for a change in venue.
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FIRST PICTURE: One of the six cops charged over Freddie Gray's homicide after Baltimore State Attorney says victim was illegally arrested
Look for lots of plea bargains and turning on each other.
Why anyone would want to be a cop in today's environment is beyond me.
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Listening to Hannity right now.
A Baltimore cop (disguised) has said that Gray was arrested after he and another suspect were spotted after what looked like drug dealing on a known, drug dealing street corner.
(Gray ran, the other guy didn't.)
Since no drugs were found on Gray, he was arrested for carrying a switchblade knife.
Apparently there is heroin and marijuana in the autopsy tox report.
Also apparently, three of the cops are black, three white.
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Look for lots of plea bargains and turning on each other.
Why anyone would want to be a cop in today's environment is beyond me.
Nope. I don't think so. If the cops maintain solidarity, this street-cred-seeking prosecutor will have to drop most of the charges. She's dying for some kind of conviction, but 2nd degree murder and manslaughter are unprovable.
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This is a powder keg. The charges, at least most of them, seem unprovable. Meanwhile, Obama and the race hustlers are ratcheting up the rhetoric. At some point, the words "not guilty" or "dismissed" will have the potential to ignite this thing. And, not just in Baltimore.
Those cops and their families will never be the same.
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/baltimore-police-release-photos-of-6-officers-charged-in-freddie-grays-death/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/baltimore-police-release-photos-of-6-officers-charged-in-freddie-grays-death/)
Baltimore Police Release Mugshots of 6 Officers Charged in Freddie Gray’s Death
by Josh Feldman | 7:54 pm, May 1st, 2015
The Baltimore Police Department tonight released mugshots of the six officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody.
The officers were identified last month as Lt. Brian Rice, Officer Garrett Miller, Sgt. Alicia White, Officer William Porter, Officer Edward Nero, and Officer Caesar Goodson.
These are the photos released tonight:
Edward Nero
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Caesar Goodson
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Garrett Miller
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Brian Rice
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Alicia White
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William Porter
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Notice too how the charges came directly from her office. They weren't handed down by a grand jury. Then she read them as if they were verdicts and not merely accusations from a political grandstander...
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This is a powder keg. The charges, at least most of them, seem unprovable. Meanwhile, Obama and the race hustlers are ratcheting up the rhetoric. At some point, the words "not guilty" or "dismissed" will have the potential to ignite this thing. And, not just in Baltimore.
Those cops and their families will never be the same.
This is a modern day lynch mob...rather guilty or not these 6 lives are ruined......I feel like I am living in the twilight zone where rioting and looting is condoned and the thugs are just misunderstood youths....
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Notice too how the charges came directly from her office. They weren't handed down by a grand jury. Then she read them as if they were verdicts and not merely accusations from a political grandstander...
She got the reports this morning..a few short hours later she had all the charges...I'm betting they were all written last night.
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3 of the 6 officers are black, kind of changes the narrative the media wants and pushed at Ferguson - that a police force more representative of the city they serve is what is needed.
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mrclose wrote above:
[[ Also apparently, three of the cops are black, three white. ]]
and sinkspur added:
[[ If the cops maintain solidarity, this street-cred-seeking prosecutor will have to drop most of the charges. She's dying for some kind of conviction, but 2nd degree murder and manslaughter are unprovable. ]]
Here's the plan (and my prediction):
The black prosecutor is going to lean HEAVILY on the black cops, and offer them light punishment (or perhaps let them off altogether) in return for "turning" on the white cops.
Wait and see...
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mrclose wrote above:
[[ Also apparently, three of the cops are black, three white. ]]
and sinkspur added:
[[ If the cops maintain solidarity, this street-cred-seeking prosecutor will have to drop most of the charges. She's dying for some kind of conviction, but 2nd degree murder and manslaughter are unprovable. ]]
Here's the plan (and my prediction):
The black prosecutor is going to lean HEAVILY on the black cops, and offer them light punishment (or perhaps let them off altogether) in return for "turning" on the white cops.
Wait and see...
It's my understanding that Caesar Goodson, who is black..was the driver of the van and the most heavily charged..so your theory may not pan out...at least where Goodson is concerned
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It's my understanding that Caesar Goodson, who is black..was the driver of the van and the most heavily charged..so your theory may not pan out...at least where Goodson is concerned
For all of the hype, the most heavy charges go against a black officer. And since 3 of the 6 are black, any claim of white officers against a black suspect falls flat on its face.
So it is the police force, against a black suspect, who may have caused the harm to himself.
zzzz.;/l
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/who-are-the-police-officers-charged-in-the-death-of-freddie-gray/2015/05/01/dde6bc2e-f01f-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/who-are-the-police-officers-charged-in-the-death-of-freddie-gray/2015/05/01/dde6bc2e-f01f-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html)
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Clockwise from top left: Baltimore police officers William G. Porter, Garrett E. Miller, Caesar R. Goodson Jr., Edward M. Nero, Alicia D. White, Brian W. Rice. (Baltimore Police Department)
By Paul Schwartzman May 1 at 11:05 PM
The six officers accused in the death of Freddie Gray face a litany of charges that include second-degree depraved-heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, false imprisonment and misconduct in office.
The officers — three white, three African American — represent a broad spectrum of experience on Baltimore’s police force. Three of them joined the force three years ago. The driver, who faces the most serious charges, is African American and has been on the force since 1999.
One officer had his weapons confiscated after a former girlfriend contacted the Carroll County sheriff’s office to say she feared for his safety.
The officers include one woman, a sergeant, who joined the force in 2010.
All six officers were taken into custody Friday and released after posting bail that evening, according to online court records. The police officers facing charges are:
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A look at the six Baltimore police officers charged in the Gray case
Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr., 45, who has been on the force since 1999, according to Baltimore police. An African American, Goodson drove the van that transported Gray to jail.
Goodson, whose bail was set at $350,000, is the only officer in the group facing a murder charge. He is charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder, a charge used when a suspect is accused of reckless disregard for another person’s life, in addition to involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
WBAL-TV in Baltimore reported last week that Goodson is facing internal disciplinary proceedings in a separate case for allegedly allowing a prisoner to escape from a hospital.
Goodson is the grandson of a police officer, according to the obituary for his mother, who died in Baltimore in 2012. He lives in Catonsville in Baltimore County, where two of his neighbors said Friday that he had minimal interactions with them.
Frances Hubbard, who lives on his street, described the officer as a “family man, always polite, always speaks. I see him eating with the family.”
Clockwise from top left: Baltimore police officers William G. Porter, Garrett E. Miller, Caesar R. Goodson Jr., Edward M. Nero, Alicia D. White, Brian W. Rice. (Baltimore Police Department)
By Paul Schwartzman May 1 at 11:05 PM
The six officers accused in the death of Freddie Gray face a litany of charges that include second-degree depraved-heart murder, involuntary manslaughter, false imprisonment and misconduct in office.
The officers — three white, three African American — represent a broad spectrum of experience on Baltimore’s police force. Three of them joined the force three years ago. The driver, who faces the most serious charges, is African American and has been on the force since 1999.
One officer had his weapons confiscated after a former girlfriend contacted the Carroll County sheriff’s office to say she feared for his safety.
The officers include one woman, a sergeant, who joined the force in 2010.
All six officers were taken into custody Friday and released after posting bail that evening, according to online court records. The police officers facing charges are:
Attorney for Baltimore police: ‘No officer caused harm to Gray’(0:59)
The attorney representing the Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police said the six officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray acted "in accordance with their training by the Baltimore Police Department." (Reuters)
Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr., 45, who has been on the force since 1999, according to Baltimore police. An African American, Goodson drove the van that transported Gray to jail.
Goodson, whose bail was set at $350,000, is the only officer in the group facing a murder charge. He is charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder, a charge used when a suspect is accused of reckless disregard for another person’s life, in addition to involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, manslaughter by vehicle and misconduct in office.
WBAL-TV in Baltimore reported last week that Goodson is facing internal disciplinary proceedings in a separate case for allegedly allowing a prisoner to escape from a hospital.
Goodson is the grandson of a police officer, according to the obituary for his mother, who died in Baltimore in 2012. He lives in Catonsville in Baltimore County, where two of his neighbors said Friday that he had minimal interactions with them.
Frances Hubbard, who lives on his street, described the officer as a “family man, always polite, always speaks. I see him eating with the family.”
Events leading to Gray’s arrest and hospitalization View Graphic
Lt. Brian W. Rice, 41, the highest-ranking officer among those charged Friday, is a 17-year veteran of the department.
Rice was the first officer to make eye contact with Gray while on bike patrol, State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby said. Rice then chased Gray, calling for backup on his police radio. Mosby said Rice failed to establish probable cause for Gray’s arrest.
The lieutenant helped load Gray onto a police wagon, then he ordered the driver to stop the vehicle so he and other officers could remove Gray, handcuff him and place leg shackles on his ankles.
Rice, whose bail was set at $350,000, is charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
In 2012, Carroll County Sheriff’s deputies visited Rice at his Westminster home after a woman with whom he had a child asked officers to check on him, according to a report obtained by The Washington Post.
The woman, Karen Crisafulli, who also is a Baltimore police officer, told deputies that Rice had made statements that alarmed her. The details of those statements were blacked out by law enforcement.
The deputies confiscated Rice’s weapons, including two 12-gauge shotguns, an AK-47 rifle, a small-caliber handgun, a BB gun and a Glock handgun he kept in a backpack inside his vehicle. The rifle and shotguns were kept in an unlocked safe.
Crisafulli, when reached by phone Friday, said she was under orders not to comment because of her position with the police department.
Officer William G. Porter, 25, who joined the force in 2012, became involved in Gray’s arrest after Goodson requested backup as he was driving to central booking, Mosby said. Porter, whose bail was set at $350,000, faces charges of involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
Porter, who is black, checked on Gray and asked him whether he needed medical assistance. When Gray said he could not breathe, Porter helped him off the van floor and onto a bench. The officer failed to restrain Gray with a seat belt, Mosby said. Nor did Porter call for medical help, despite Gray’s request.
Sgt. Alicia D. White, 30, joined the force in 2010. She was dispatched to investigate two citizens’ complaints abut Gray’s arrest. At one point, according to Mosby, she “spoke to the back of his head,”even though Gray was unresponsive.
The prosecutor said White made no effort to assess Gray’s condition despite having been told he needed medical assistance. White, whose bail was set at $350,000, is charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault and misconduct in office.
White’s attorney left Baltimore’s Central Booking and Intake office a little before 8 p.m. “Our client is innocent,” he said. “This is ridiculous.” He would not comment further.
Michael Gross, who identified himself as White’s uncle, said the family is “devastated” by the arrests. He described his niece as “a very good person, a very religious person.” He said she was engaged to be married.
White, who is African American, grew up in Baltimore, Gross said, and went to the University of Maryland’s Eastern Shore campus. She worked in education before joining the police force.
White was promoted to sergeant in January. The family celebrated that day, Gross said. “She was a very happy individual.”
Officer Edward M. Nero, 29, who joined the force in 2012, was on bike patrol with Rice and another officer when they chased Gray. Nero handcuffed Gray and held him down until the police wagon arrived, Mosby said. Nero, who is white, is charged with second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment. His bail was set at $250,000.
The officer lives in Bel Air, in Harford County. A neighbor, Krishna Pillalamarri, said Nero is married, has a young child and moved into his house less than a year ago.
Officer Garrett E. Miller is charged with second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment. Miller, 26, has been on the force since 2012. Miller was on bike patrol with Rice and Nero when they apprehended Gray, according to the prosecutor. Miller helped load Gray into a police wagon and failed to restrain him with a seat belt, Mosby said. His bail was set at $250,000.
Miller lives in a stone-and-frame house on a fenced wooded lot in Kingsville, Md., 25 miles north of Baltimore, on land his family has owned for more than a century, neighbor Dominic Martino said. A woman who answered the door said the family did not want to talk. A neighbor also said he would have no comment.
Several descendants of the original landowners live in a cluster on one end of Miller Road, Martino said, adding that the family tends to keep to themselves. “It’s a big family,” he said. “They have signs posted that they don’t want people driving back there.”
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mystery wrote above:
[[ It's my understanding that Caesar Goodson, who is black..was the driver of the van and the most heavily charged..so your theory may not pan out...at least where Goodson is concerned ]]
Let's reconsider what you wrote above.
I seem to recall reading (was it here?) that Goodson, the van driver, has never actually carried a weapon or done regular "street patrol" work. In other words, he's pretty much always performed "non-officer" duties, i.e., "a driver" and not much more.
You might almost say that this sets him apart from the other officers, as he may not have the same "shared experiences" and camaraderie as do they regarding day-to-day police work.
Because of this, because he is "slightly apart" from the other five, could this make him the object of more "prosecutorial pressure" to "turn" against the five other officers?
Could this be why they have filed the most serious charges against HIM?
To "turn up the heat" on him to cooperate, in exchange for a "reduction" in those charges?
Just wonderin' ....
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My theory is this:
Caesar Goodson, the black driver, heard the victim banging himself around. He yelled for him to stop to no avail.
The so-called "secret stop" was when Goodson decided that he was going to kick some a$$.
Foot-stomping on an injured spinal column....
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This is a powder keg. The charges, at least most of them, seem unprovable. Meanwhile, Obama and the race hustlers are ratcheting up the rhetoric. At some point, the words "not guilty" or "dismissed" will have the potential to ignite this thing. And, not just in Baltimore.
Those cops and their families will never be the same.
They will dismiss or not guilty right before the 2016 elections. Gotta rile up the base.
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To the forum....What happens now? They got to trial?
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There's an arraignment and pre trial hearing that that occurs before that. According to Alan Dershitwitz, they don't have the facts or evidence to support the charges and any decent judge would throw the case out.
However, the natives are all lathered up over this thing and it remains to be seen if anyone will follow the law or not.
Of course, Obama and his herd of syco's will threaten everyone and misrepresent the facts in an attempt to hang these racist cops...oops, I forgot, 3 of them are black.
Well, you get the idea.
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i just turned to CNN they have coverage of the march in Baltimore. They have some guy in front of city hall calling for the release of all political prisoners, he calls all the prisoners in Baltimore jails political prisoners and he want amnesty for all.
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evadR2 wrote above:
[[ There's an arraignment and pre trial hearing that that occurs before that. According to Alan Dershitwitz, they don't have the facts or evidence to support the charges and any decent judge would throw the case out. ]]
If I were one of the accused cops, I'd get on the line with Mr. Dershowitz and ask him to "put up or shut up" -- to serve on the defense team.
Alan is talkin' a good talk -- perhaps he should step up and walk the walk?
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My theory is this:
Caesar Goodson, the black driver, heard the victim banging himself around. He yelled for him to stop to no avail.
The so-called "secret stop" was when Goodson decided that he was going to kick some a$$.
Foot-stomping on an injured spinal column....
Yeah, it'll probably turn out that one of the black cops is the one that killed him and then it'll be <crickets>...
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Yeah, it'll probably turn out that one of the black cops is the one that killed him and then it'll be <crickets>...
If you think about it it may just be that. The 2 white cops are pictured arresting him. 2 of them are on bikes so it may be safe to say they rode those back to the station.
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EXCLUSIVE: Cop accused of Freddie Gray murder was only driving van because he volunteered for overtime, colleagues reveal as he is pictured with family for first time
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3067476/Cop-accused-Freddie-Gray-murder-driving-van-volunteered-overtime-colleagues-reveal-pictured-family-time.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/04/17/284D786000000578-3067476-image-a-4_1430756147969.jpg)
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The speed at which these overladen charges were rolled out smacks of expediency and political prosecution. For some of the officers their lives will never be the same.
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The speed at which these overladen charges were rolled out smacks of expediency and political prosecution. For some of the officers their lives will never be the same.
Yeah....they'll win a multimillion dollar lawsuit, and co-author books and go on Ellen and Oprah.
Okay...perhaps, not Oprah. :laugh: