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Title: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: mystery-ak on August 25, 2019, 01:26:55 pm
Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
by Naomi Lim
 & Julio Rosas
 | August 25, 2019 09:21 AM

Tea Party favorite Joe Walsh will take on President Trump for the 2020 Republican nomination.

Walsh, 57, plans to challenge Trump by arguing the White House incumbent is “morally unfit" for the office, an uphill battle considering the president’s sustained support from his base.

Walsh supported Trump during the 2016 presidential election, but has since become an outspoken critic. He made the announcement on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-walsh-will-challenge-trump-for-the-2020-republican-presidential-nomination (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-walsh-will-challenge-trump-for-the-2020-republican-presidential-nomination)
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: mystery-ak on August 25, 2019, 02:06:05 pm
Newest Joe Walsh advisor for Trump primary challenge: Mr. Kellyanne Conway?
https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/08/24/newest-joe-walsh-advisor-trump-primary-challenge-mr-kellyanne-conway/
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: mystery-ak on August 25, 2019, 02:31:23 pm
Walsh says employing 25th Amendment 'should be looked at'
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/458728-walsh-says-employing-25th-amendment-should-be-looked-at
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: mystery-ak on August 25, 2019, 06:29:30 pm
'Whatever': Trump campaign unfazed by Joe Walsh primary challenge
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whatever-trump-campaign-unfazed-by-joe-walsh-primary-challenge (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whatever-trump-campaign-unfazed-by-joe-walsh-primary-challenge)
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Wingnut on August 25, 2019, 09:28:20 pm
That Justin Amish dude is looking to run also.  Now there is a ticket for success if I've ever seen one.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: EdJames on August 25, 2019, 09:29:28 pm
That Justin Amish dude is looking to run also.  Now there is a ticket for success if I've ever seen one.

They can call it the Bitter Pieces of Shit party.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Wingnut on August 25, 2019, 09:51:15 pm
They can call it the Bitter Pieces of Shit party.

Can they work in Mittens for the trifecta on bitter shit pieces party.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: EdJames on August 25, 2019, 09:55:52 pm
Can they work in Mittens for the trifecta on bitter shit pieces party.

Mittens and Amish will kick Walsh to the curb.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Wingnut on August 25, 2019, 10:04:03 pm
Mittens and Amish will kick Walsh to the curb.

They remind of two cats on quaaludes.  Very low intensity.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Applewood on August 25, 2019, 10:18:00 pm
'Whatever': Trump campaign unfazed by Joe Walsh primary challenge
...

Perhaps Trump's campaign people are unfazed, but I'll bet Trump isn't.  Walsh is in for the fight of his life.  I hope he's ready for the Ted Cruz treatment. 


cc:  @Victoria33
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 25, 2019, 10:24:29 pm
Perhaps Trump's campaign people are unfazed, but I'll bet Trump isn't.  Walsh is in for the fight of his life.  I hope he's ready for the Ted Cruz treatment. 


cc:  @Victoria33

Dumb Azz Walsh had a good thing going. He just threw everything away, for the title "Former Presidential Candidate."
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Applewood on August 25, 2019, 10:37:10 pm
Dumb Azz Walsh had a good thing going. He just threw everything away, for the title "Former Presidential Candidate."

Oh I don't know.  That title might look good on his resume...for a job at Burger King. 

Seriously, I wonder where Walsh will get the financial resources for his campaign.  If he doesn't have the money, he's just going to be another William Weld. 

And he should have something more to offer other than he isn't Trump. 
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: TomSea on August 25, 2019, 11:13:24 pm
Is he upset the wall hasn't been built too? This topic of conversation per Walsh came up earlier. He comes on in the middle of the night here, the bit I did hear from him wasn't bad. I don't really downgrade his character. He didn't seem like a bad guy or anything. Of course, I don't think he has what it takes for this, primarily financially speaking.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 25, 2019, 11:53:43 pm
Dumb Azz Walsh had a good thing going. He just threw everything away, for the title "Former Presidential Candidate."
A good thing going? The guy was hosting a late-night talk radio show on the third-tier Salem Radio Network with a resume of "one-term Congressman" whose inflammatory rhetoric rivaled that of Trump (I mean, he uttered the word no white man can speak on Twitter, repeatedly, if that gives you an idea). The guy has almost nothing to lose.

The guy's voting record was pretty solid, but he's far from living large right now. Even so, he's probably the highest ranking candidate that anyone in the GOP is going to be able to muster against him. You'd have to have nothing to lose to take on this challenge.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 26, 2019, 12:38:18 am
Oh I don't know.  That title might look good on his resume...for a job at Burger King. 

Seriously, I wonder where Walsh will get the financial resources for his campaign.  If he doesn't have the money, he's just going to be another William Weld. 

And he should have something more to offer other than he isn't Trump.

Gotta figure Soros will be in for seven figures.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Wingnut on August 26, 2019, 01:23:09 am
Perhaps Trump's campaign people are unfazed, but I'll bet Trump isn't.  Walsh is in for the fight of his life.  I hope he's ready for the Ted Cruz treatment. 


cc:  @Victoria33

Why TF are you CC'n Marcy?
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: corbe on August 26, 2019, 01:32:22 am
   No argument here is complete without Marcy weighing in.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: EdJames on August 26, 2019, 01:38:19 am
As seen on CNN!
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Applewood on August 26, 2019, 01:43:04 am
Why TF are you CC'n Marcy?

She's not allowed here?
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Victoria33 on August 26, 2019, 04:06:18 am
Oh I don't know.  That title might look good on his resume...for a job at Burger King.   Seriously, I wonder where Walsh will get the financial resources for his campaign.  If he doesn't have the money, he's just going to be another William Weld.  And he should have something more to offer other than he isn't Trump.
@Applewood

If he doesn't have money, he is going no where.  I am sorry that is true.  It means no matter how qualified you are, you have to have millions of dollars to get elected. Also, Walsh served one term and his district was redrawn, cutting the district apart, so he had a choice of running against a Republican in one part of the old district or running against a Democrat in the other part of the old district. He ran against the Democrat and was defeated.  So, he has sort of a knowledge how government works, but a two year term in the House is all he has. If he manages to last until a debate, the public will at least get an idea of what he knows.  Since he is a radio guy he should be able to get through a debate fairly well in terms of not being antsy/nervous on stage.


Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: jafo2010 on August 26, 2019, 08:47:18 am
Joe Walsh who???  I mean really, are the Republicans jealous of the Dem clown car?

Well, Mr Walsh, morality is not part of the definition or requirement of being POTUS.  After Kennedy marching one woman after another into the White House, and Clinton's act, the GOP and Democommies are concerned about morality?  Really?
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Applewood on August 26, 2019, 10:05:36 am
Joe Walsh who???  I mean really, are the Republicans jealous of the Dem clown car?

Right now, there are 4 Republican contenders as opposed to what?  23 Democrats?  Remember that in 2016, the Republicans started out with 17or 19 or so contenders.   So Republicans have no room to talk about the Democrat "clown car."

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Well, Mr Walsh, morality is not part of the definition or requirement of being POTUS.  After Kennedy marching one woman after another into the White House, and Clinton's act, the GOP and Democommies are concerned about morality?  Really?

Morality should be a qualification for the top job.  After all, the president is supposed to be a leader and good leaders lead by example.  I don't expect perfection.  Only God is perfect.  But I would have thought voters could have done better than a serial adulterer, liar and cheat. 

I notice that both presidents you mention are Democrats.  Republicans used to hold their leaders to higher standards.  Hell, I remember there was controversy over Ronald Reagan being a divorced man.  But to my knowledge he didn't have a bimbo du jour in the White House.  Divorce is not as scandalous as it once was, but adultery should be. 

When we don't care about the character of our leaders, we are setting up our nation for failure. 
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: dancer on August 26, 2019, 11:19:34 am

Morality should be a qualification for the top job.  After all, the president is supposed to be a leader and good leaders lead by example.  I don't expect perfection.  Only God is perfect.  But I would have thought voters could have done better than a serial adulterer, liar and cheat. 

I notice that both presidents you mention are Democrats.  Republicans used to hold their leaders to higher standards.  Hell, I remember there was controversy over Ronald Reagan being a divorced man.  But to my knowledge he didn't have a bimbo du jour in the White House.  Divorce is not as scandalous as it once was, but adultery should be. 

When we don't care about the character of our leaders, we are setting up our nation for failure.
Morality?  He is a deadbeat Dad.  Not paying for child support:

Joe Walsh: Just your average, regular deadbeat dad kind of a guy
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/174695-joe-walsh-just-your-average-regular-deadbeat-dad-kind-of-a-guy
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: libertybele on August 26, 2019, 11:38:50 am
They can call it the Bitter Pieces of Shit party.


 :rolling:  So now we have the GOP, DEMS, and the BPOS parties!  Love it.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 26, 2019, 12:58:29 pm
Morality?  He is a deadbeat Dad.  Not paying for child support:

Joe Walsh: Just your average, regular deadbeat dad kind of a guy
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/174695-joe-walsh-just-your-average-regular-deadbeat-dad-kind-of-a-guy
Child support is feminism's greatest racket. If that's the worst you've got on him, you're going to have a bad time.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Applewood on August 26, 2019, 01:18:16 pm
Morality?  He is a deadbeat Dad.  Not paying for child support:

Joe Walsh: Just your average, regular deadbeat dad kind of a guy
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/174695-joe-walsh-just-your-average-regular-deadbeat-dad-kind-of-a-guy

I worked for attorneys, some of whom represented domestic relations clients (divorce, child custody, child support, etc.).  I can tell you that as @jmyrlefuller said, child support can be a racket.  I've known of more than a few women who used their kids to extort huge amounts of money from the kids' fathers.  At one time, all a woman had to do was cry to a judge and the do-gooder judge would award her whatever she demanded.  The man's side of the story was never even considered. 

The Hill story seems a bit one sided.  Most stories about child support are.  I don't know what Mr. Walsh's side of the story is in this case, except that he said he was impoverished.   Perhaps he has made up his arrearages  by now.  Anyway, I'll reserve judgment until and unless I hear the whole story. 

And compared to the karp Trump has pulled, this is nothing.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: txradioguy on August 26, 2019, 02:04:15 pm
How is this gonna affect his touring schedule with The Eagles?
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: libertybele on August 26, 2019, 02:04:47 pm
How is this gonna affect his touring schedule with The Eagles?

 888high58888
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 26, 2019, 02:39:16 pm
How is this gonna affect his touring schedule with The Eagles?
Not sure. All I know is that Glenn Frey's almost certainly voting for the Democrat either way.
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: txradioguy on August 26, 2019, 02:40:24 pm
Not sure. All I know is that Glenn Frey's almost certainly voting for the Democrat either way.

 :silly:
Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: aligncare on August 26, 2019, 02:45:52 pm
Tangential but on-topic question and answer:  What’s the biggest lesson to take out of national politics in the Modern [sic] Era?

As a career path, you (can!) become fabulously wealthy. Take the enrichment of Biden and family; Bernie buying 4 homes; the Obama’s working on their 3rd mansion (and what a mansion it is); Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein; Harry Reid; Nancy Pelosi. Examples abound.

Now, let your mind drift back to Harry Truman’s retirement from political office. Notice any difference?

Title: Re: Joe Walsh will challenge Trump for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 26, 2019, 03:54:12 pm
Tangential but on-topic question and answer:  What’s the biggest lesson to take out of national politics in the Modern [sic] Era?

As a career path, you (can!) become fabulously wealthy. Take the enrichment of Biden and family; Bernie buying 4 homes; the Obama’s working on their 3rd mansion (and what a mansion it is); Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein; Harry Reid; Nancy Pelosi. Examples abound.

Now, let your mind drift back to Harry Truman’s retirement from political office. Notice any difference?

You noticed that, too? No doubt, the surest way to wealth in America today is "public service".  It goes way back, to the days of Dick Gephardt and Danny Rostenkowski.

IMO, the Founding Fathers had too much faith in the average voter, by not including term limits on Senators and Representatives. They couldn't foresee the invention of air conditioning, and what that would do to how Congress does its business today. IIRC, the last time the Congress passed a budget on time was the year before central air conditioning was installed in the Capitol.

If you've been to DC during the summer, as most of us have, you can understand why.