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Title: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 02:51:40 pm
OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27

Day Three.  Let's roll with a new thread. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 27, 2016, 02:54:39 pm
It will be fun to watch the protesting, but I'll be danged if I'm going to watch the big ZERO, Biden and Caine.  At least the Bernie supporters are making this interesting in their craziness.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: EC on July 27, 2016, 02:57:25 pm
Bookmark. Hoping for some humor at least today.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 27, 2016, 03:05:47 pm

Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 118C
Ethnic Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 120ABC



AAPI Caucus

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 118A



Native American Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, Terrace I & II



Black Caucus

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, Terrace IV



Hispanic Caucus

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 12:00 pm - 2:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 119AB



Disability Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 12:00 pm - 2:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 122B



Small Business Owners Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 12:00 pm - 1:30 pm ET - Philadelphia Convention Center 114 – Michael A. Nutter Theater



Youth Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 120ABC



Veterans and Military Families Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 118ABC



Labor Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 121ABC



Faith Council

The Pennsylvania Convention Center is home to many important official party events, including caucus and council meetings. These caucus and council meetings are open to the general public.
Wednesday July 27 | 4:30 pm ET - Wells Fargo Center



Gavel In

Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center



Erica Smegielski

Erica’s mother Dawn was the principal of Sandy Hook Elementary and was killed while trying to protect her students. Since then, Erica has become an outspoken advocate for commonsense gun violence prevention measures. Erica was featured in the ad, My Mom.
Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center



Felicia Sanders & Polly Sheppard

Felicia and Polly are two of the three survivors of the Mother Emanuel Church shooting in Charleston, SC.
Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center



Jamie Dorff

Jamie’s husband was Patrick Dorff, an Army helicopter pilot from Minnesota who died while on a search and rescue mission in northern Iraq. As a senator, Hillary worked with Republicans and Democrats to increase the gratuity paid to family members of fallen veterans from $12,000 to $100,000.
Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center



Vice President Joe Biden

Speaker: Vice President Joe Biden
Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center



President Barack Obama

Speaker: President Barack Obama
Wednesday July 27 | Wells Fargo Center


Gavel Out
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 27, 2016, 03:06:42 pm
Bookmark. Hoping for some humor at least today.

Look at the speakers..don't know how long I will be able to stand it...
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: EC on July 27, 2016, 03:11:25 pm
I'll probably watch Biden and about 2 minutes of the Worm.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Ghost Bear on July 27, 2016, 03:15:30 pm
Last night I watched recorded episodes of "The Last Ship", "Ballers", and "Gotham".  It was much more enjoyable (to me) than watching the convention.

I'll probably do something similar tonight... and just monitor the thread to see if anything interesting happens.

 :seeya:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 03:29:06 pm
Wednesday July 27 | 10:00 am - 12:00 pm ET - Pennsylvania Convention Center, 118C
Ethnic Council
AAPI Caucus
Native American Council
Black Caucus
Hispanic Caucus
Disability Council
Small Business Owners Council
Youth Council
Veterans and Military Families Council
Labor Council
Faith Council

So....where's the WHITE council? :thud:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: EC on July 27, 2016, 03:32:07 pm
Gandalf's busy.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 27, 2016, 03:43:47 pm
So....where's the WHITE council? :thud:

No you didn't!...lololololol
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 03:48:22 pm
(https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13716027_1140706535992961_2125102741639671613_n.jpg?oh=60e8d89dc34de704f2282c81698916a5&oe=58311087)

#JustSayin  :whistle:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 03:50:01 pm
Here's the official timeline of events for today:

11:15 AM – Free Lunch, "Medical" Marijuana and Bus Ride to the Convention. Forms To Be Passed Out for Food Stamp Enrollment.

Opening Flag Burning Ceremony – Sponsored by CNN.

4:15 PM – Address on "Being the Real You" – By (White) Former Head of the Seattle NAACP, Rachel Dolezal, and "Caitlyn" Jenner.

4:30 PM – "How to Bank $200 Million While a Public Servant, and Yet Claiming to be Broke" – Hillary Clinton.

4:45 PM – "How to Have a Successful Career Without Ever Having a Job, and Still Avoid Paying Taxes!" – Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson (free visit to the White House for one lucky entrant).

5:00 PM– Medals of Freedom Presented to Army Deserter Bowe Bergdahl and a Sample of Baltimore Looters aka Alternative Shoppers.

5:15 PM – General Vote on Praising Baltimore Rioters, and on Using the Term "Alternative Shoppers" Instead of "Looters."

5:30 PM – Invitation-Only Autograph Session – Souvenir Photographs of Hillary and Chelsea Dodging Sniper Fire in Bosnia.

5:45 PM – Tribute to All of the 57 States – Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.

8:30 PM – The White House "Semantics Committee" Meeting Followed by General Vote on Now Using the Term "Muslim Terrorism" Instead of the Usual "Random Acts of Islamic Over-Exuberance."

9:00 PM – "Liberal Bias in Media – How We Can Make It Work For You" Tutorial – Sponsored by CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times.

9:15 PM – Tribute Film to the Brave Freedom Fighters Still Incarcerated at GITMO – Michael Moore.

9:45 PM – Personal Finance Seminar: "Businesses Don't Create Jobs" – Hillary Clinton.

10:00 PM – Group Denunciation of Bitter Gun Owners and Bible Readers.

10:30 PM – Ceremonial "We Surrender" Waving of the White Flag to Afghanistan, Russia and ISIS.

11:00 PM – Short Film: "Setting Up Your Own Illegal Email Server While Serving in a Cabinet Post, and How to Pretend It's No Big Deal," hosted by Hillary Clinton.

11:30 PM – "How to Offend Christians While Implementing Sharia Law in America" – "Sneaky Joe" Biden.

12:00 AM – Official Nomination of Hillary by Bill Maher and Chris Matthews.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 04:04:37 pm
Better late, than never?
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/4f34530ecb12e336a9dfe29c/5686c7ba0e4c11c93490eaf4/5797c147f5e231a625181488/1469563296611/DNCFlagsAdded2.jpg?format=2500w)
Hillary's DNC adds American flags to the stage, after criticism
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 04:08:47 pm
The DNC list of speakers looks like a "victims" list, with a few exceptions,  of those who are offering pay back for the revenues and perks Demorats channel to their organizations.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 04:20:40 pm
Better late, than never?
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/4f34530ecb12e336a9dfe29c/5686c7ba0e4c11c93490eaf4/5797c147f5e231a625181488/1469563296611/DNCFlagsAdded2.jpg?format=2500w)
Hillary's DNC adds American flags to the stage, after criticism

They'll add 1 minute to the schedule for a special Flag Booing Ceremony
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 04:23:07 pm
Better late, than never?
Hillary's DNC adds American flags to the stage, after criticism

Yep...it was a 'special order' after so many complaints......and if you noticed they are off to the far ends of the stages....

Meanwhile outside the DNC they were burning the US and Israel's flag...while holding the reds flag.....

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/06/369EC8C900000578-3709275-image-a-81_1469596564222.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/04/369F11F000000578-3709275-image-a-35_1469591565579.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/05/369EB39C00000578-3709275-image-a-68_1469595127909.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:34:08 pm
Trump lighting up Hillary this morning at 33:30 minutes into his presser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGHWou0h1kk


Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 04:36:17 pm

Bernie didn't exactly look like a man willing to announce Clinton the nominee by acclimation....then he left immediately after.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/02/369E007F00000578-3709275-Bernie_Sanders_made_a_surprise_appearance_on_the_floor_and_moved-a-3_1469584772683.jpg)

Really weird visual showing Hillary breaking the supposed glass ceiling......

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/14/369F235600000578-3709275-Hillary_Clinton_made_a_surprise_appearance_via_video_link_at_las-a-1_1469627922158.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:38:47 pm
Glass ceiling ?  Polarizing.



Bernie didn't exactly look like a man willing to announce Clinton the nominee by acclimation....then he left immediately after.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/02/369E007F00000578-3709275-Bernie_Sanders_made_a_surprise_appearance_on_the_floor_and_moved-a-3_1469584772683.jpg)

Really weird visual showing Hillary breaking the supposed glass ceiling......

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/14/369F235600000578-3709275-Hillary_Clinton_made_a_surprise_appearance_via_video_link_at_las-a-1_1469627922158.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:40:34 pm
Got to admit.  Trump holding court. 

Man he is a fighter.  Going after Hillary right during her convention.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:41:43 pm
Calling out the press for not reporting the Bernie walkout at the DNC
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:44:24 pm
Calling Joe Biden and Bernie liars.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 04:51:36 pm

Humm-mm.....Lookey what I found......

American flags lean against a wall in the convention hall as setup continue before the 2016 Democratic Convention in Philadelphia, (((Saturday, July 23, 2016.))))) (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
So they had them there and apparently just chose not to use them ....


(http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2016/07/23/_q90_cCM_q80/DEM-2016-Convention-1.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 04:58:59 pm
Dole, W, McCain, Mittens.....

None of them are fighting like this guy.   


Humm-mm.....Lookey what I found......

American flags lean against a wall in the convention hall as setup continue before the 2016 Democratic Convention in Philadelphia, (((Saturday, July 23, 2016.))))) (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
So they had them there and apparently just chose not to use them ....


(http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2016/07/23/_q90_cCM_q80/DEM-2016-Convention-1.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 05:01:21 pm
Calling out the press for not reporting the Bernie walkout at the DNC

Well we can...here ya go!......Hundreds walked out.....shouting!

(http://sharing.theindychannel.com/sharescnn/photo/2016/07/27/1469577590_43158974_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

(http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Video/201607/f_dnc_sandersdelegateswalkout_160726.jpg)

(http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HQ.219654131088&pid=15.1)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/27/03/369E0F7300000578-3709275-Supporters_of_Bernie_Sanders_shout_as_they_walk_out_of_the_conve-a-24_1469584845360.jpg)

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 05:01:55 pm
Trump lighting up Hillary this morning at 33:30 minutes into his presser.

It took him 33 minutes to get to Hillary? What was he talking about before that? His hands? His genitals? How wonderful Putin is? Attacking Ted Cruz and criticizing the GOP? Threatening not to pay the rent on the venue? Flirting with Ivanka?

33 minutes???
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 05:03:21 pm


 :facepalm:

Flags are not to be leaning against a wall, that is why they have a pole!
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:11:21 pm
It took him 33 minutes to get to Hillary? What was he talking about before that? His hands? His genitals? How wonderful Putin is? Attacking Ted Cruz and criticizing the GOP? Threatening not to pay the rent on the venue? Flirting with Ivanka?

33 minutes???

Check out the video.  The press conference starts at 33:30. 

Sparing you from watching the podium for 33 minutes.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 05:12:47 pm

What could go wrong....she had 'ONE' job to do...... This did!

Baltimore mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake forgets to to bring down the gavel!!


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/22/36962E1A00000578-3707609-That_went_well_Not_really_After_the_gavelling_came_choruses_of_b-a-132_1469481796000.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/22/36962CC100000578-3707609-image-m-131_1469481790562.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:18:42 pm
"I Hope Russia Has All 33,000 Emails That Hillary Deleted"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-27/trump-i-hope-russia-has-all-33000-emails-hillary-deleted


:facepalm:

Flags are not to be leaning against a wall, that is why they have a pole!
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:22:19 pm
Says Huma tells Anthony Weiner our secrets.

Says Weiner is a pervert. 

1:25:00
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 05:22:58 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/22/3695E1D300000578-3707609-One_of_the_four_freedoms_Bernie_Sanders_supporters_have_camped_o-a-92_1469481093919.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 27, 2016, 05:25:46 pm
Trump lighting up Hillary this morning at 33:30 minutes into his presser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGHWou0h1kk

Trump actually sounded coherent...he must be on his meds today.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 27, 2016, 05:27:08 pm

 
Trump spent an entire hour with reporters firing one question after another.......well over 20 and he met every one head on..answered every question in the room....the reporters loved it! It was really a good press conference....

Hillary on the other hand,  is running for President and hasn't done a news conference in almost a year?..and her last one she answered  just 7 pre-viewed questions.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 27, 2016, 05:29:12 pm

Trump spent an entire hour with reporters firing one question after another.......well over 20 and he met every one head on..answered every question in the room....the reporters loved it! It was really a good press conference....

Hillary on the other hand,  is running for President and hasn't done a news conference in almost a year?..and her last one she answered  just 7 pre-viewed questions.

And he hardly mentioned Cruz....the boy is learning!
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:30:35 pm
Trump actually sounded coherent...he must be on his meds today.

First thing in the morning after having sleep.

Had to attribute the carpet bombing thing to Ted.

I will give it to geronl, Trump needs to go easier on Cruz and Kasich.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 05:38:43 pm
Joe Biden's favorables, unfavorables:

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBhOaHR0cDovL2UuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tL3BvbGxzdGVyL3NoYXJlL2pvZS1iaWRlbi1mYXZvcmFibGUtcmF0aW5nLnBuZz8xNDY4OTQ2MDExFOASFOYJHBSEBhSUAwAAFgASAA&s=L-N54SnrWKrPtHKHWLEcrDS6YH1d-1fnN5gpEmOhrQ8)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:44:17 pm
Joe Biden's favorables, unfavorables:

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBhOaHR0cDovL2UuaHVmZnBvc3QuY29tL3BvbGxzdGVyL3NoYXJlL2pvZS1iaWRlbi1mYXZvcmFibGUtcmF0aW5nLnBuZz8xNDY4OTQ2MDExFOASFOYJHBSEBhSUAwAAFgASAA&s=L-N54SnrWKrPtHKHWLEcrDS6YH1d-1fnN5gpEmOhrQ8)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-27/trump-extends-lead-7-points-hillarys-convention-bounce-evaporates

LA Times has Trump up 7 over Hillary. 

During Hillary's convention!!! :patriot:
 :beer:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 05:45:11 pm
Hard to believe, but there it is...

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/07/25/20160727_trump1.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: flowers on July 27, 2016, 06:07:22 pm
What could go wrong....she had 'ONE' job to do...... This did!

Baltimore mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake forgets to to bring down the gavel!!


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/22/36962E1A00000578-3707609-That_went_well_Not_really_After_the_gavelling_came_choruses_of_b-a-132_1469481796000.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/25/22/36962CC100000578-3707609-image-m-131_1469481790562.jpg)

That is a joke right? @WAC
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 06:40:12 pm

Trump did well today...


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/07/27/trump_hijacks_the_democrat_convention

But what Trump did today, I have never seen in my lifetime: A Republican presidential nominee go out and do a 10-minute, 30-minute, much less one-hour press conference and just refuting everything he's heard at the Democrat convention to date. He just blew it up.  And, in addition to that, he answered questions about this email business and the hack and the Russians and so forth.

It just has the media outraged.  They can't believe that Trump said some of the things that he said when he was commenting before he took questions on the speech by Bill Clinton last night -- which we're gonna get into, of course.  Hang in there.  Trump said -- and this is classic. This is a classic demonstration that he has a performer's ego and understands how to deploy it. He said, "I kept waiting.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 06:43:24 pm
RUSH: I am in awe here.  This just has not been done.  This is a literally hijacking.  Like I was saying, I expected the first thing out of my mouth today and for awhile was gonna be the Bill Clinton speech last night.  And I heard that Trump was gonna do a presser from Miami, and I said, "Okay, cool." But it wasn't until halfway through, maybe not even halfway through it that I realized the first thing I'm gonna do talking about today is Donald Trump, not Bill Clinton.

The first thing I'm gonna be talking about is Trump and this press conference and not Bill Clinton, not because of partisan preference, just because the news is the news.  And the Democrat convention and what happened last night is now old news because of what Donald Trump did today, and there isn't a Republican -- certainly not a Republican presidential nominee -- who's ever done anything like this or who would.

Pick one. George H. W. Bush? No. This would never happen. He would be too disrespectful. "Not prudent." George W. Bush? Double-down no way.  "Not gonna interfere in the political process. Not gonna sully, not gonna soil, not gonna dirty the process here by interceding in a political fashion. Not gonna do it. Not gonna go there." Who else?  Reagan? Maybe, but that's so... Who knows? But the point is, there isn't a Republican nominee, there isn't a Republican candidate for nominee who would do it.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 06:43:55 pm
See comments above. Just knew Rush was going to react this way.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 07:03:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOD4BZv5xWE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOD4BZv5xWE)
Thousands of Empty DNC Seats for Hillary Clinton


(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/4f34530ecb12e336a9dfe29c/5686c7ba0e4c11c93490eaf4/57982509d2b8575b1bfdc983/1469590743843/Capture25.jpg?format=2500w)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 07:07:54 pm
That is a joke right? @WAC
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKv7xq9Be7y2wq4/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 07:08:53 pm
 Steve Deace@SteveDeaceShow   1h1 hour ago
For first time in history of Gallup Poll, a majority of Americans said party's convention made them less likely to vote Republican.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 07:10:32 pm
STU BURGUIERE@WorldOfStu   4h4 hours ago
RT @mmurraypolitics (https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics): Trump: "They say the biggest bounce in memory"-truth, some polls have a shown a modest bounce; others no bounce at all                     
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 07:17:31 pm
Steve Deace@SteveDeaceShow   1h1 hour ago
For first time in history of Gallup Poll, a majority of Americans said party's convention made them less likely to vote Republican.

Trump is walking away with right now and dominating the news cycle.

Never saw anything like it.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 07:23:54 pm
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 07:57:35 pm
Media seems to be going nuts over Trump asking the Russians to help with the emails.

Conflating the TWO email scandals is brilliant.

Perhaps the Russians can help with the 900 FBI files or the Vince Foster investigation as well.

 :smokin:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 27, 2016, 07:58:41 pm
Says Huma tells Anthony Weiner our secrets.

Says Weiner is a pervert. 

1:25:00

He's a real master of the obvious...

Weiner can still beat his Pecker, I think...
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
He's a real master of the obvious...

Weiner can still beat his Pecker, I think...

People forget about Weiner and the optics that Huma is for Hamas.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: jedidah on July 27, 2016, 08:03:23 pm
Trump actually sounded coherent...he must be on his meds today.

Well, sort of.  At least in the beginning.

He seemed OK until they brought up Russia;  then he brought up the volume and the ire and the invitation to Putin to find Hillary's lost e-mails.

There was also the time he told a reporter to "shut up," and when he called Anthony Weiner "a pervert and a sleazeball" and said "They keep him locked up in a room, they won't let him out, "  and that Houma shows him classified material.

It was entertaining, in a sad way.  Give Trump props for stealing the news cycle.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:05:50 pm
Well, sort of.  At least in the beginning.

He seemed OK until they brought up Russia;  then he brought up the volume and the ire and the invitation to Putin to find Hillary's lost e-mails.

There was also the time he told a reporter to "shut up," and when he called Anthony Weiner "a pervert and a sleazeball" and said "They keep him locked up in a room, they won't let him out, "  and that Houma shows him classified material.

It was entertaining, in a sad way.  Give Trump props for stealing the news cycle.

Cruz calling for carpet bombing for ISIS now looks gauche.

Do not like want to see Ted diminished, but Trump never called for the carpet bombing.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:09:46 pm
Will tell you something else.  Trump position on the minimum wage was brilliant too.

He noted that it should largely be up to the states AND that it would hurt places like New York since jobs would leave.

Said we needed to make jobs pay more than the minimum wage, but...

'We have to take care of people' maybe $10.


In other words, he sees the 'animal spirits' element of it, knows that it will hurt job growth and gets to call Bernie a liar--

Bernie had stated that Trump wanted to lower the min wage.


Well, sort of.  At least in the beginning.

He seemed OK until they brought up Russia;  then he brought up the volume and the ire and the invitation to Putin to find Hillary's lost e-mails.

There was also the time he told a reporter to "shut up," and when he called Anthony Weiner "a pervert and a sleazeball" and said "They keep him locked up in a room, they won't let him out, "  and that Houma shows him classified material.

It was entertaining, in a sad way.  Give Trump props for stealing the news cycle.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: don-o on July 27, 2016, 08:11:16 pm
Media seems to be going nuts over Trump asking the Russians to help with the emails.

Conflating the TWO email scandals is brilliant.

Perhaps the Russians can help with the 900 FBI files or the Vince Foster investigation as well.

I gotta give it to Trump on this one. He has blown up the cycle and got 'em chasing their tails.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Vlad probably has those emails in a lock box.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:21:32 pm
I gotta give it to Trump on this one. He has blown up the cycle and got 'em chasing their tails.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Vlad probably has those emails in a lock box.

Then there are the Rose law firm records and the travel office records.

Maybe the Russians could help analyze the cattle futures trades too....

 :silly:


Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 08:26:48 pm
Cruz calling for carpet bombing for ISIS now looks gauche.

Do not like want to see Ted diminished, but Trump never called for the carpet bombing.

You're right.  Instead, Trump said we should just "bomb the sh*t out of them."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:31:56 pm
You're right.  Instead, Trump said we should just "bomb the sh*t out of them."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8

Well bombing the s- out of them implies more precision than 'Carpet Bombing' them does.

I like Cruz.  In context at the time, the comment was meant to sound tough.

Yay Cruz.  But Trump is coming off 'smart' here...

Trump is going to need Tim Scott, Mike Lee , Sasse, Cruz and even Rubio in the Senate.

Hopefully, there is some kind of rapprochement before Nov.





Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 08:33:17 pm
Will tell you something else.  Trump position on the minimum wage was brilliant too.

He noted that it should largely be up to the states AND that it would hurt places like New York since jobs would leave.

Said we needed to make jobs pay more than the minimum wage, but...

'We have to take care of people' maybe $10.


In other words, he sees the 'animal spirits' element of it, knows that it will hurt job growth and gets to call Bernie a liar--

Bernie had stated that Trump wanted to lower the min wage.

Trump said "Wages are too high."

http://theweek.com/speedreads/588147/donald-trump-kicks-gop-debate-by-saying-american-wages-are-high

And, regarding minimum wage, Trump said this this morning:

Quote
Asked to clarify his position at a press conference on Wednesday morning in Doral, Florida, Trump said once again that the federal minimum wage should be raised to "at least $10" but that "states should really call the shots."

He talks out of both sides of his mouth.  He says the FEDERAL minimum wage should be AT LEAST $10 but that the states should "call the shots"(whatever the hell that means). 

Which is it?  State or federal?  And if it's state, why even express that it should be AT LEAST $10?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 08:34:57 pm
Well bombing the s- out of them implies more precision than 'Carpet Bombing' them does.

I like Cruz.  In context at the time, the comment was meant to sound tough.

Yay Cruz.  But Trump is coming off 'smart' here...

Trump is going to need Tim Scott, Mike Lee , Sasse, Cruz and even Rubio in the Senate.

Hopefully, there is some kind of rapprochement before Nov.

Really? By whose reckoning? Sounds like the same thing to me.

Trump is not and has never come off "sounding smart."  He's a bull who carries his china shop around on his back.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:37:31 pm

Which is it?  State or federal?  And if it's state, why even express that it should be AT LEAST $10?

See above.  The federal part is to prove Bernie wrong and motivate people to work (animal spirits in behavioral economics).

The state part is acknowledges that while he may suggest, he will allow NY and AL to set wage policy for local conditions. 

Is there a political element to it?  Sure.  But Hillary and Bernie would have AL at 15$$


Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:39:21 pm
Really? By whose reckoning? Sounds like the same thing to me.

Trump is not and has never come off "sounding smart."  He's a bull who carries his china shop around on his back.

The body function implies , necessarily, a level of precision.

A bit crass, yes.  But how many decades have we been waiting for an actual fighter on our side. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 08:43:27 pm
See above.  The federal part is prove Bernie wrong and motivate people to work (animal spirits in behavioral economics).

The state part is acknowledges that while he may suggest, he will allow NY and AL to set wage policy for local conditions. 

Is there a political element to it?  Sure.  But Hillary and Bernie would have AL at 15$$

Why not just say "let states handle it"?  He can't say that because Trump has to stick his nose into everything: minimum wage, transgender bathrooms, law enforcement.

He's an authoritarian.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:45:12 pm

He's an authoritarian.

Often true.  But not this time.  The min wage position, while not pure Milton Friedman, is directionally correct.  The video is worth a watch.

Maybe only let Trump speak in FLA after he is well fed and has had sleep..

 :shrug:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 08:46:14 pm
The body function implies , necessarily, a level of precision.

A bit crass, yes.  But how many decades have we been waiting for an actual fighter on our side.

When has Trump ever "fought" for anything, except eminent domain and making sure veterans' groups didn't demonstrate in front of Trump Tower?

I think Trump is a certifiable nut case and I don't want him anywhere near calling the shots about weapons in the US arsenal.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: guitar4jesus on July 27, 2016, 08:46:38 pm
Often true.  But not this time.  The video is worth a watch.

Maybe only let Trump speak in FLA after he is fed and has had sleep..

 :shrug:

And in his own venue.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 08:50:28 pm
When has Trump ever "fought" for anything, except eminent domain and making sure veterans' groups didn't demonstrate in front of Trump Tower?

I think Trump is a certifiable nut case and I don't want him anywhere near calling the shots about weapons in the US arsenal.

Trump has 10 point plan for the VA.  Bet he does answer WH hot line sometimes.

As for the football, he has many more grandkids to lose than Hillary.

But if I am a bad guy like NK or China-- Trimp carrying the football has more deterrence than Hillary (see Benghazi)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 09:00:17 pm
When Reagan/Thatcher was scorned/feared for carrying the football.


Oh Superman where are you now,
When everything has gone wrong some how..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmH1xQ2Pf4
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 09:42:19 pm
       Breaking News Feed  @pzf
BREAKING NEWS: CNN reports Tim Kaine didn't get a nominating speech because of fear of booing.       

 :silly:
               
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: DCPatriot on July 27, 2016, 10:03:27 pm
Trump made his supporters proud today.

When was the last time you saw THAT??   Taking questions freehand....LOL

Almost like Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount.       :silly:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: jedidah on July 27, 2016, 10:25:56 pm


Almost like Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount.   


I know you're trying to be funny, but I've chewed folks out on TOS for less.  :nono: 

Stop it.  Please. 

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Silver Pines on July 27, 2016, 10:39:38 pm
Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro  44m44 minutes ago
You all think Bill cares about if you liked his speech, but he's already buried in interns.

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 11:16:43 pm
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1769825351/simpsonsbuddy_bigger_bigger.png) Mike Masnick@mmasnick   29m29 minutes ago
Repeat after me: writing something negative about 1 candidate does NOT make you a shill for the other candidate. Calm the f down people.
           
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 11:21:57 pm
Trump did well today...


He could go out there, pound the podium and grunt like a cave-man and get the same reaction from his sycophants
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 11:25:57 pm
Trump has 10 point plan for the VA.  Bet he does answer WH hot line sometimes.

As for the football, he has many more grandkids to lose than Hillary.

But if I am a bad guy like NK or China-- Trimp carrying the football has more deterrence than Hillary (see Benghazi)

LOL!! There's already a VA hotline. And Trump can't even bother to call donors.  You think he's actually going to deal with veterans other than as a photo op?

Trump doesn't know anything.  That's his problem.  That's why he shoots his mouth off.  Like today, not knowing the difference between Tim KAINE and Tom KEAN.

So it's all about nukes to you, too, huh?  Entrusting Trump with nukes is akin to letting a monkey drive a car.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 11:28:47 pm
He could go out there, pound the podium and grunt like a cave-man and get the same reaction from his sycophants


Not everyone voting for Trump ignores his flaws.   

Want to see the Senate and House go conservative to act as a constitution check on him.

While Ted is a constitutionalist, he did not make it this time.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 11:29:40 pm
Trump made his supporters proud today.

When was the last time you saw THAT??   Taking questions freehand....LOL

Almost like Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount.       :silly:

What a silly post. You already on the sauce? 

Trump takes questions because he'll just say shit that doesn't make sense then deny he said them tomorrow.  Whatever works at the moment.

He made a fool of himself today, in my opinion, but then I think he does that every time he opens his mouth.

By the way, the Sermon on the Mount was about peacemakers, the meek, the humble, the pure in heart. 

None of which Trump knows anything about.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 11:30:06 pm
LOL!! There's already a VA hotline. And Trump can't even bother to call donors.  You think he's actually going to deal with veterans other than as a photo op?

Trump doesn't know anything.  That's his problem.  That's why he shoots his mouth off.  Like today, not knowing the difference between Tim KAINE and Tom KEAN.

So it's all about nukes to you, too, huh?  Entrusting Trump with nukes is akin to letting a monkey drive a car.

Hillary is far more dangerous with the football.  Where has Hillary been anyway.

Has not a presser in 250+ days.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 11:32:11 pm

Not everyone voting for Trump ignores his flaws.   

Want to see the Senate and House go conservative to act as a constitution check on him.

While Ted is a constitutionalist, he did not make it this time.

Trump doesn't have flaws.  He has psychological deficiencies.  Disqualifying deficiencies.

We'll be damned lucky to keep the House, much less the Senate.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 27, 2016, 11:32:58 pm
Hillary is far more dangerous with the football.  Where has Hillary been anyway.

Has not a presser in 250+ days.

What does a press conference have to do with anything at all?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 11:34:44 pm
Hillary is far more dangerous with the football.  Where has Hillary been anyway.

Has not a presser in 250+ days.

I'm not voting for Hillary either.  But I think she's less of a threat in resorting to a nuclear solution than Trump.  She's a terrible person within normal parameters.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 27, 2016, 11:36:05 pm
What does a press conference have to do with anything at all?

Hillary should not be let off the hook about her transcripts from her speeches to Goldman-Sachs.

Trump should not be let off the hook about his taxes.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 11:44:39 pm
What does a press conference have to do with anything at all?

Accountability.  Trump brought it today.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 11:46:29 pm
I'm not voting for Hillary either.  But I think she's less of a threat in resorting to a nuclear solution than Trump.  She's a terrible person within normal parameters.
See Wesley Clark in Bosnia.
Benghazi. 

Hillary will is far more likely to be tested than Trump.  See above .
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 11:48:23 pm
Steve Deace@SteveDeaceShow   20m20 minutes ago     West Des Moines, IA
Not sure what's more annoying: those falling for Trump's antics or those claiming every Trump mistake is some sort of tactically shrewdness.   :beer:

         
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 27, 2016, 11:48:32 pm
Accountability.  Trump brought it today.

Trump was a nutcase today who committed outright treason.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 27, 2016, 11:51:39 pm
Trump was a nutcase today who committed outright treason.


Not even close .  He sure has the media in a tizzy.

Maybe Putin has the 900 FBI files.

OR The Rose Law firm billing records.

Five decades of corruption needs to be stopped.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 27, 2016, 11:54:02 pm
Video of Trump speaking (http://videos.usatoday.net/Brightcove2/29906170001/2015/01/29906170001_4002528270001_usat2ecd03f1-29f0-4cb8-80a9-6d9215b5956b.mp4)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 11:54:56 pm
LOL!! There's already a VA hotline. And Trump can't even bother to call donors.  You think he's actually going to deal with veterans other than as a photo op?

He'll give up the Twitter habit and answer phone calls all night for VA issues, an issue on which he expert level: Cave Man on.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 11:55:57 pm

Not even close .  He sure has the media in a tizzy.

When Trump suggests he will reward Russia for invading sovereign nations, he has gone too far.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 27, 2016, 11:56:59 pm

Want to see the Senate and House go conservative to act as a constitution check on him.

His followers will try to destroy anyone who tries to check him
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 27, 2016, 11:57:09 pm
The Rat Convention is going on for a 3rd day?

I figured most of the attendees would have been arrested and jailed for various outstanding warrants and drug charges.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:00:17 am
His followers will try to destroy anyone who tries to check him

Glad Ted Cruz made his convention speech.  Best of the convention.

Ted came up short this time.  The Justice dept has been out of control .  So has the IRS with Louis Lerner.

Since these officials were not impeached or prosecuted, change the executive branch.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 12:00:45 am
The Rat Convention is going on for a 3rd day?

I figured most of the attendees would have been arrested and jailed for various outstanding warrants and drug charges.
Doc Thompson@DocThompsonShow   4m4 minutes ago
We're at the point in the #DNC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DNC?src=hash) program where they vilify a tool & not hold criminals accountable!
#GunAPhobes ***suicide***
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: don-o on July 28, 2016, 12:12:09 am
Trump was a nutcase today who committed outright treason.

Trump shone the light on July 5 today. Too many people shrugged shoulders and said, "Oh well,,," after Comey said, "However."

I'm tough on Trump in pointing out his manifest and many shortomings. But the man scored big today and calling it treason is laughable. Putin probably already has those deleted emails. Hell, I'll bet Mossad does as well.

 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:20:30 am
Trump shone the light on July 5 today. Too many people shrugged shoulders and said, "Oh well,,," after Comey said, "However."

I'm tough on Trump in pointing out his manifest and many shortomings. But the man scored big today and calling it treason is laughable. Putin probably already has those deleted emails. Hell, I'll bet Mossad does as well.

After eight years of corruption, lets get Obama out and root out the corruption. 

After pining for someone who will take it to the media, we finally have a guy who will not be shouted down by the media.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:26:42 am
Trump shone the light on July 5 today. Too many people shrugged shoulders and said, "Oh well,,," after Comey said, "However."

I'm tough on Trump in pointing out his manifest and many shortomings. But the man scored big today and calling it treason is laughable. Putin probably already has those deleted emails. Hell, I'll bet Mossad does as well.

Treason?  What about John Huang and Charlie Trie.  Remember that?

The Chinese perfected their missile guidance systems with stolen US technology. 


Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 12:30:43 am
After eight years of corruption, lets get Obama out and root out the corruption. 

After pining for someone who will take it to the media, we finally have a guy who will not be shouted down by the media.

What makes you think a man who thrived on corruption in New York politics is going to turn on those who greased the skids for him?

I can't believe you're this gullible.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:33:59 am
What makes you think a man who thrived on corruption in New York politics is going to turn on those who greased the skids for him?

I can't believe you're this gullible.

Since the FBI and NSA were not capable securing all of Hillary's emails, Trump is asking the Russians to do it.

How about the time Hillary cackled when she got a rapist off in the 1970s?


There is no denying that Trump has already been more effective in going after Clinton corruption than anyone else in fifty years.

Moreover, there is the 'unwritten' chapter that Trump referred to today.

Telling us the abuse that Hillary and Betsy Wright heaped on Monica, Juanita and K Willey will not be off the table.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 12:43:56 am
Since the FBI and NSA were not capable securing all of Hillary's emails, Trump is asking the Russians to do it.

How about the time Hillary cackled when she got a rapist off in the 1970s?


There is no denying that Trump has already been more effective in going after Clinton corruption than anyone else in fifty years.

Moreover, there is the 'unwritten' chapter that Trump referred to today.

Telling us the abuse that Hillary and Betsy Wright heaped on Monica, Juanita and K Willey will not be off the table.

Really?  "Crooked Hillary" is going after Clinton corruption? 

Need I remind you that he said, three years ago, that Hillary would make a great president and that he really liked the Clintons?

Go ahead and regurgitate all that 90s stuff.  It hasn't worked the few times Trump has tried it and it won't work going forward.  Nobody but the old geezers who already hate her care about that stuff.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Silver Pines on July 28, 2016, 12:47:11 am
His followers will try to destroy anyone who tries to check him

@geronl

Exactly.  Think they're bad now?  They'll be manic if he actually gets in.  Their king will have ascended, and by God nobody better touch him.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:48:45 am
Really?  "Crooked Hillary" is going after Clinton corruption? 

Need I remind you that he said, three years ago, that Hillary would make a great president and that he really liked the Clintons?

Go ahead and regurgitate all that 90s stuff.  It hasn't worked the few times Trump has tried it and it won't work going forward.  Nobody but the old geezers who already hate her care about that stuff.

70s
80s
90s
00s
10s

Five decades of corruption.  What can I say?  Trump may have said expedient things three years ago, but he is NOW blowing up the dem convention right now.

And in a cogent way like we have never seen.

Trump is up seven points now, according to the LA times. 

During the dem convention. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:52:24 am
@geronl

Exactly.  Think they're bad now?  They'll be manic if he actually gets in.  Their king will have ascended, and by God nobody better touch him.

Always a risk.  Too bad Lindsey Graham did not convict Clinton in the 1990s.

Sense Clinton may be on the ropes again. 

If Trump abuses his power, Cruz , Rubio, Lee, The Media, Pelosi and the dems will be all too giddy to remove him.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:01:19 am
Since the FBI and NSA were not capable securing all of Hillary's emails, Trump is asking the Russians to do it.

How about the time Hillary cackled when she got a rapist off in the 1970s?


There is no denying that Trump has already been more effective in going after Clinton corruption than anyone else in fifty years.

Moreover, there is the 'unwritten' chapter that Trump referred to today.

Telling us the abuse that Hillary and Betsy Wright heaped on Monica, Juanita and K Willey will not be off the table.

You are actually going to advocate for a hostile foreign power to seize control over aspects of the US government?

D@#n. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:02:56 am
You are actually going to advocate for a hostile foreign power to seize control over aspects of the US government?

D@#n.

No.  That is not what is said.

As Giuliani noted, The Hill or other entities can turn the emails over to US law enforcement. 

After all, we would not want Hillary to be blackmailed with emails that other entities have, but have not released....
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:07:35 am
70s
80s
90s
00s
10s

Five decades of corruption.  What can I say?  Trump may have said expedient things three years ago, but he is NOW blowing up the dem convention right now.

And in a cogent way like we have never seen.

Trump is up seven points now, according to the LA times. 

During the dem convention.

We'll see how much Trump has "blown up" next week.

The stupid will come out over the course of the next three months.   And I will bet considerable coin he will be humiliated in the debates.

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:08:47 am
You are actually going to advocate for a hostile foreign power to seize control over aspects of the US government?

D@#n.

http://sputniknews.com/us/20160728/1043695928/wikileaks-audio-recording-release.html

Now the voice mails.  Trump is merely pointing out the damage that Hillary has done via foreign intelligence services....
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:09:24 am
Since the FBI and NSA were not capable securing all of Hillary's emails, Trump is asking the Russians to do it.

FBI and NSA are parts of the US government.  You say and support Trump asking Russia to take over their duties for this.  Russia is a hostile foreign power.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:10:47 am
http://sputniknews.com/us/20160728/1043695928/wikileaks-audio-recording-release.html

Now the voice mails.  Trump is merely pointing out the damage that Hillary has done via foreign intelligence services....

Sputnik news is a paid-for propaganda organ of the Russian government.  This isn't me complaining about it, this is actually who pays for that site and it's employees.

You keep doubling-down on Russian control.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:11:44 am
We'll see how much Trump has "blown up" next week.

The stupid will come out over the course of the next three months.   And I will bet considerable coin he will be humiliated in the debates.

Trump should only Debate Hillary at Mar-Largo in the morning.

That version of Trump will do just fine. :pondering:


You are right, Hillary could beat Trump in debate, but right now Trump is taking the initiative. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:13:38 am
Here's Joe Biden, who would be beating Trump by 12 points if he were in the race.  And I'll bet, looking out on that arena, he wishes he were.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: don-o on July 28, 2016, 01:13:52 am
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/drw509/joe.jpg)

Must. Not. Caption.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 01:13:55 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoagSPCVYAEQtYa.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:14:19 am
Sputnik news is a paid-for propaganda organ of the Russian government.  This isn't me complaining about it, this is actually who pays for that site and it's employees.

You keep doubling-down on Russian control.

Question is: Are the voice mails real? 

Any why did the NSA not assist the FBI, since national security was at stake?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:15:39 am
Trump should only Debate Hillary at Mar-Largo in the morning.

That version of Trump will do just fine. :pondering:


You are right, Hillary could beat Trump in debate, but right now Trump is taking the initiative.

Yeah.  He is.  And he looks a Russian toady with his comments.

His biggest demographic are aging Baby Boomers who grew up during the Cold War.  Curious how they'll react to his coddling of Putin.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 01:16:28 am

There is no denying that Trump has already been more effective in going after Clinton corruption than anyone else in fifty years.


How many have gone to jail?

All Trump does is talk like Issa or Rush and whoever. He hasn't done anything.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 01:17:11 am
Trump should only Debate Hillary at Mar-Largo in the morning.


Is that prime time in Moscow?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 01:17:31 am
New York Post ‏@nypost 2m2 minutes ago

Joe Biden tears up remembering his late son Beau: "I've been made strong at the broken places"
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:18:57 am
Yeah.  He is.  And he looks a Russian toady with his comments.

His biggest demographic are aging Baby Boomers who grew up during the Cold War.  Curious how they'll react to his coddling of Putin.

Not a Russian toady.  Just a little Gedanken or thought experiment to make people realize the damage that has been done.

Worst outcome for the US is Hillary wins and is blackmailed by multiple foreign intelligence services.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 01:20:05 am
        (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/741765385918238720/M_uGLeWd_bigger.jpg) Shannon Bream Verified account @ShannonBream
Crowd chanting "USA! USA!"  Delegate in front of me stands up and yells, "Stop that!  That's a Trump chant!" #DNCinPHL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DNCinPHL?src=hash)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 01:20:13 am
jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 8h8 hours ago

1) There was nothing secret in HRC's 30K deleted e-mails.
2) It's a "national security issue" if Russia gets them.

Pick one, Hillary camp.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:20:14 am
How many have gone to jail?

All Trump does is talk like Issa or Rush and whoever. He hasn't done anything.

If Hillary wins, the five decade cover up continues.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:21:08 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoagSPCVYAEQtYa.jpg)

Great tan.  Not a bit of Orange.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:21:34 am
Question is: Are the voice mails real? 

Any why did the NSA not assist the FBI, since national security was at stake?

How do you know they didn't?  Are you expecting the two organizations to provide the press and yourself details of their operations?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 01:22:25 am
Zeke Miller@ZekeJMiller   26m26 minutes ago
DNC has turned off the stage lights in the chanting sections to make them less visible on TV
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:23:11 am
To pay attention to the Convention:

Jonathan Martin ‏@jmartNYT  22m22 minutes ago
An unapologetic gun control push in 2016 is 1 thing, but the former CIA chief being nearly shouted down when making case against terror?

Bernie's goofs booed Leon Panetta when he talked about taking the fight to terrorists.

What in hell is the matter with these people?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 01:23:47 am
Philip Rucker ‏@PhilipRucker 38s39 seconds ago

Biden Bidening on Trump: “He tries to tell us he cares about the middle class. Give me a break. That’s a bunch of malarkey.”



BuzzFeed News ‏@BuzzFeedNews 44s44 seconds ago

Biden on Trump: "This guy doesn't have a clue about the middle class. Not a clue…He has no clue period.”
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 01:24:44 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoafzhfWAAALuZq.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 01:24:57 am
Mark Young ‏@MarkYoungTruth 23s23 seconds ago

Biden: no party has ever been less prepared to deal with terrorism. Notice he never said which party?



GregGutfeld ‏@greggutfeld 45s46 seconds ago

Biden did a better speech for Hillary than he ever did for himself.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:25:02 am
Not a Russian toady.  Just a little Gedanken or thought experiment to make people realize the damage that has been done.

Worst outcome for the US is Hillary wins and is blackmailed by multiple foreign intelligence services.

Or Trump wins and US foreign policy looks the other way when Putin works his will because of Trump's business interests in Russia.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 01:25:14 am
Not a Russian toady.  Just a little Gedanken or thought experiment to make people realize the damage that has been done.


Trump loses and the Oligarchs call in their debts and leave Donald homeless on 5th avenue
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:25:33 am
How do you know they didn't?  Are you expecting the two organizations to provide the press and yourself details of their operations?

1)  Jamie Gorelick built the NSA wall
2)  Congress/ others would have been briefed as to the damage assessment.

No one talks about WHICH intelligence service(s) have these emails.

Trump brings awareness to the issue.  Not trying to be contentious on this point.

The question stands apart from our current discussion.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 01:26:00 am
If Hillary wins, the five decade cover up continues.

and her good friend and major donor is going to change that? I doubt it very much. Trump loves corruption.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 28, 2016, 01:26:13 am
Accountability.  Trump brought it today.

I'll give you that Trump wasn't that repulsive today.  This is one day....see how he does for the next 3 or 4 months.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:28:26 am
jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 8h8 hours ago

1) There was nothing secret in HRC's 30K deleted e-mails.
2) It's a "national security issue" if Russia gets them.

Pick one, Hillary camp.

So there is no danger in Russia having the ability to hack into the US organizations?  That a hostile foreign power can do so *is* a national security issue.

And that is a different issue than Hillary's emails. Much the same as how Timothy McVeigh was a different issue to Aldrich Ames.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:29:38 am
Trump can't talk about the missing chapter because he's done everything Bill has and probably much worse.

As for Hillary, who is worse?  The pedophile rapist or the woman letting her husband off the hook or laughing about it.  It's a wash.  They're both filth.

Trump likes give warnings.  Like he did with Ted/Heidi Cruz, starting around Jan.

While nasty in the primary, we can expect more in the general.

In other words, Trump is not finished.

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:32:21 am
So there is no danger in Russia having the ability to hack into the US organizations?  That a hostile foreign power can do so *is* a national security issue.

And that is a different issue than Hillary's emails. Much the same as how Timothy McVeigh was a different issue to Aldrich Ames.

No HJ, it is what has already happened to Hillary's emails.  Comey let Hillary off, until Trump brought it back front and center.

Furthermore, if the NSA DID brief the FBI on what was lost and the impacts, Comey definitely should have indicted.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: HonestJohn on July 28, 2016, 01:35:08 am
No HJ, it is what has already happened to Hillary's emails.  Comey let Hillary off, until Trump brought it back front and center.

Furthermore, if the NSA DID brief the FBI on what was lost and the impacts, Comey definitely should have indicted.

And how would you know what was or was not briefed?  Or whether that would or would not meet legal requirements for indictment? 

It sounds very much like you have come to a conclusion and are desperately trying to make assumptions to fit them.

---

This is the first time, since I started coming here, that I've met a poster where the logic behind every single post is something I cannot fathom.  I've seen trolls here and I ignore them, but you are the first that is not a troll, but an honest person... whose reasoning I cannot follow in the slightest.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:37:34 am
And how would you know what was or was not briefed?  Or whether that would or would not meet legal requirements for indictment? 

It sounds very much like you have come to a conclusion and are desperately trying to make assumptions to fit them.

Follow the logic.   Either Hillary could be black mailed or Comey has committed grave dereliction.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 01:43:13 am
Trump likes give warnings.  Like he did with Ted/Heidi Cruz, starting around Jan.

While nasty in the primary, we can expect more in the general.

In other words, Trump is not finished.

What the hell does that mean?  Heidi Cruz had no part of Ted's campaign.  Trump's slurring of her looks was a bottom-of-the-barrel slam.

Trump will surely be nasty in the general, but only you Trumpsters will lap that up.

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:43:17 am
So there is no danger in Russia having the ability to hack into the US organizations? 

Exactly the problem that Hillary and the DNC have compromised US security on.

1) Soliciting bribes for the Clinton Foundation from foreign entities.
2) Soliciting bribes for the presidential library from foreign entities.
3) Using a compromised 'home brew' server to dodge law enforcement
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: jedidah on July 28, 2016, 01:44:12 am


While nasty in the primary, we can expect more in the general.



We're all aware of that.  Is that supposed to make us feel better about the mess we're in?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:45:21 am
What the hell does that mean?  Heidi Cruz had no part of Ted's campaign.  Trump's slurring of her looks was a bottom-of-the-barrel slam.

Trump will surely be nasty in the general, but only you Trumpsters will lap that up.

What Trump did to Ted was wrong, yet Ted got trashed for sticking up for his wife.

No doubt.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: don-o on July 28, 2016, 01:45:46 am
jimgeraghty ‏@jimgeraghty 8h8 hours ago

1) There was nothing secret in HRC's 30K deleted e-mails.
2) It's a "national security issue" if Russia gets them.

Pick one, Hillary camp.

Now it's coming into focus.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:46:50 am
We're all aware of that.  Is that supposed to make us feel better about the mess we're in?

I feel better if the current vintage of corruption has an expiration date.

Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 01:52:15 am
We're all aware of that.  Is that supposed to make us feel better about the mess we're in?

Another response to this is it makes me appreciate Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan- and even John Adams & John Quincy Adams all the more...
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:07:45 am
Derek Hunter ‏@derekahunter 31s32 seconds ago

Tim Kaine has the personality of bean bag chair without any of the charm
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:09:14 am
Chuck Woolery ‏@chuckwoolery 42s42 seconds ago

My guess is that Obama will tell us thing are great, but they could be better. It's what he always say.And Trump BAD,Hillary GOOD!
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:11:07 am
Trump seeks more guest workers (THIS MONTH!)

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=217964.new#new
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:11:37 am
Dan Merica ‏@danmericaCNN 3m3 minutes ago

Tim Kaine steps out to accept his party's vice presidential nomination.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoatNdLWcAAp7UB.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:19:44 am
Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit 2m2 minutes ago

Have not prepared mentally yet for the possibility that this affable muppet-like character could be one heartbeat away
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:20:29 am
Susan Page ‏@SusanPage 3m3 minutes ago

Kaine, like Biden, is using his life story to reach out to working-class whites like his parents--a tough group for Hillary.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:21:35 am
Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit 2m2 minutes ago

Have not prepared mentally yet for the possibility that this affable muppet-like character could be one heartbeat away

He does have Kermit the Frog like movements.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:21:35 am
Ron Fournier ‏@ron_fournier 42s43 seconds ago

As a speaker, I'm sure @timkaine is a nice guy
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2016, 02:21:57 am
I feel better if the current vintage of corruption has an expiration date.

It does. It's called death.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:22:34 am
Jonah Goldberg ‏@JonahNRO  2m2 minutes ago
Kaine seems like a decent sort, which is the point. But he also
seems like he's going to promise extra tatertots in the school cafeteria.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:22:53 am
It does. It's called death.

Chelsea .
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:23:35 am
Peter Baker ‏@peterbakernyt 11s11 seconds ago

Even some Democrats disagreed when Kaine said of Clinton: "she's consistent." Many holding up signs with TPP crossed out.
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:24:35 am

Kimberley Strassel
‏@KimStrassel
Skills are an weird thing. Glad Kaine can speak Spanish. I can run a chainsaw. Would i do it on stage every two minutes, primetime?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:26:17 am
Trust Hilllary to keep illegal families together. 

Barf.

The family deported together stays together. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:28:06 am

Byron York Verified account
‏@ByronYork

I hesitate to criticize speeches in real time, because I don't know what others are hearing. But this Kaine speech just doesn't seem big.




ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:29:27 am
Byron York Verified account
‏@ByronYork

I hesitate to criticize speeches in real time, because I don't know what others are hearing. But this Kaine speech just doesn't seem big.


At least Kaine is not shrill .   



ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


At least Kaine is not shrill . 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:35:06 am
Listo!  Listo! Para Trump!!!!


 :silly:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:38:01 am
Craig Robinson ‏@IowaGOPer 11s12 seconds ago

And the pundits agree - @timkaine knocked it out of the park.  Praise for his awful speech.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: ABX on July 28, 2016, 02:38:06 am
So Hillary's co Kain is a downer?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:40:00 am
DanRiehl ‏@DanRiehl 2m2 minutes ago

For a minute there I thought the Dems nominated Mr Rogers for VP - get that guy a sweater he'd have a career in TV!
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:43:24 am
Mike Bloomberg :

"Together, let's elect a sane, competent person" is the sentence of the election.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2016, 02:44:07 am
So Hillary's co Kain is a downer?

(http://media1.giphy.com/media/11x4WadFj5YdZS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Ghost Bear on July 28, 2016, 02:47:00 am
Mike Bloomberg :

"Together, let's elect a sane, competent person" is the sentence of the election.

That's why I'm voting for Darrell Castle.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: mystery-ak on July 28, 2016, 02:48:39 am
Sorry folks that's it for me tonight..can't do Obama's speech
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:49:06 am
I don't dare who you are, this is funny.  Please make this happen for the Bureau of Invasive Species:
 
Mark Cuban
‏@mcuban
Trump's biggest debate fear is that @HillaryClinton will make up an acronym for a non-existant agency & DJT will respond thinking it's real
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2016, 02:50:31 am
Sorry folks that's it for me tonight..can't do Obama's speech

That's alright. We all have heard it numerous times already.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 02:54:26 am
That's alright. We all have heard it numerous times already.
Here we go.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 03:00:02 am
So far likeable enough.

citing misleading statistics.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 03:02:07 am
95 Million out of the labor force, Mr President.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 28, 2016, 03:06:19 am
95 Million out of the labor force, Mr President.

Ha! I went to the wrong tread.....lololol

Obama's  defining his fake legacy before he walks off the stage one last time....
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 03:09:22 am
Ha! I went to the wrong tread.....lololol

Obama's  defining his fake legacy before he walks off the stage one last time....

It is a nice sounding speech , for the dems. 
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 28, 2016, 03:09:46 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoV8Rx1WIAEF72Z.jpg)
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 03:13:46 am


Trump will need another presser after this.

Obama is coming off as likeable as I have seen him.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 28, 2016, 03:26:09 am
Obama quoted TEd Cruz...Vote up and down the ticket....
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 03:26:41 am
 
The Smoking Gun
‏@tsgnews
Money personally donated to their charitable foundation over past 5 years:
BLOOMBERG: $2.793 Billion
TRUMP: $0
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 03:30:37 am
Obama:

You gotta get in the arena and vote for Hillary even if you dont align with her on all the issues.


Our side needs to do the same .  The dems always get together in the end.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 28, 2016, 03:32:53 am
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 28, 2016, 03:33:44 am
Obama quoted TEd Cruz...Vote up and down the ticket....

Doesn't every party politician say that every election cycle?
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: Idiot on July 28, 2016, 03:35:06 am
Obama:

You gotta get in the arena and vote for Hillary even if you dont align with her on all the issues.


Our side needs to do the same .  The dems always get together in the end.
How am I supposed to watch the local news when this bozo is still talking.   :smokin:
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 04:02:15 am
He does have Kermit the Frog like movements.
Here's Hillary and Kaine together
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 04:06:07 am
Here's Hillary and Kaine together
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That is your best post. Ever
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 04:14:33 am
Sputnik news is a paid-for propaganda organ of the Russian government.  This isn't me complaining about it, this is actually who pays for that site and it's employees.

You keep doubling-down on Russian control.


While not as reliable as Sputnik news, ABC news has now picked up the story.

Entertaining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk4E_LS33Q
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 04:15:31 am
So far likeable enough.

citing misleading statistics.
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: L9teen on July 28, 2016, 04:17:16 am

While not as reliable as Sputnik news, ABC news has now picked up the story.

Entertaining

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk4E_LS33Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk4E_LS33Q)
Outline of Glenn Becks show this evening RE: RUSSIAN / DNC EMAIL HACKS


 CHAOS to get Trump elected.

 
Vladmire Putin - Russian intelligence directly intervened in or political process.  Three security firms (SecureWorks/Crowd Stike/Fidelis Cybersecurity) have confirmed the russian military and KGB cyber attacks on the DNC.  It is not confirmed they gave the info to Wikileaks, but 2+2...

 
Julian Assange - hosted show World of Tomorrow on Russia of Today - strange since Wikileaks claims they open govts, yet RT is owned by Govt.

 
Snowden - safely tucked away in the FSB.  Putin declared the FSB be put directly under him. 

 
To sum up:
DNC emails hacked - given to Wikileaks/Julian Assange who hosted TV on Russian TV before he got into legal trouble and had to hide out in the Equadoran embassy by the FSB, who also protects Snowden and who is now in Moscow under advice under Assange and is protected by FSB, who is directly under Putin.

Hillary Clinton (enemy of Putin) - Putin blamed her claiming she was supporting regime change against him.  He is supporting Trump.  Russia, under Putin, supports right wing politics:

Give money to LePenn in France.  Give money to Golden Don in Greece, funds also went to Germany and Brittains UK-IP.  Putin was delighted by Brexit.  Russia wants to see a weak EU, a weak NATO and a weaker US. All entities that represent a check on Russias power and influence. They are putting together another empire.  They are concerned about picking up the scraps after the downfall of the West.

 
Alexander Dugan - he advised Putin on the annexation of Crimea and parts of Georgia.  Also leading charge of leading Russia to use far right in Europe.  Started his own party, logo means chaos.  He believes Hitler didn't go far enough.  He believes a new authoritarian global Hitler will change the world fundamentally, but through chaos.  In 99, he said the US would split in 5 parts - people in US already supported that. Looking to bring Dictators all over the world who will cobble together under Russia's banner.  He claims revolution is coming if the parties don't give the people the power.

 
Donald Trump (no business ties) - doesn't seem to have anything to do with this.  He may not have anything in Russia, but evidence that some of his closest campaign advisors do.  What does Russia have invested in Trump?  He needs to release his tax returns.

 
Paul Manafort - used to be top campaign/communications advisor for former Prime Minister of Pres of Ukraine.  That's where Russia invaded.  2014 crisis, which resulted in his removal from office.  Remains close ally of Putin. 

 
Carter Page is Trumps foreign policy advisor.  Had close connection with Gazprom, which is Russian energy company, run by former Putin aid. Under Putin, they raised their stakw in Gazprom after they jailed and killed a bunch of people, they have major share.  Page advised Gazprom, on their largest deals.  In 08, he formed Global Energy Capital LLC, which mostly councils foreign investors on buying assets in Russia. Page admitted the sanctions from Clinton/Obama, hurt him, by "drying up some of his potential deals".  He is also an investor with Gazprom and blames Obama/Clinton sanctions for driving down stock.

 
Richard Gurt - Advisor with Alfa Bank, which is the largest commercial bank in Russia.  He is on board with investment fund of large shares in Gazprom.

 
RNC passed agenda at convention, which was the parties softer stance on the Ukraine and Russia.
 WHO? Russia
 WHAT? Stole DNC emails and leaked them
 WHY? Chaos
 WHAT'S NEXT?  New World Order
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 04:18:21 am
The median family income and Brexit are key drivers.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 04:24:36 am
Hillary and the DNC were careless with their emails.  Any entity could have done the hacking.

Brexit is not necessarily good for Russia.

Outline of Glenn Becks show this evening RE: RUSSIAN / DNC EMAIL HACKS


 CHAOS to get Trump elected.

 
Vladmire Putin - Russian intelligence directly intervened in or political process.  Three security firms (SecureWorks/Crowd Stike/Fidelis Cybersecurity) have confirmed the russian military and KGB cyber attacks on the DNC.  It is not confirmed they gave the info to Wikileaks, but 2+2...

 
Julian Assange - hosted show World of Tomorrow on Russia of Today - strange since Wikileaks claims they open govts, yet RT is owned by Govt.

 
Snowden - safely tucked away in the FSB.  Putin declared the FSB be put directly under him. 

 
To sum up:
DNC emails hacked - given to Wikileaks/Julian Assange who hosted TV on Russian TV before he got into legal trouble and had to hide out in the Equadoran embassy by the FSB, who also protects Snowden and who is now in Moscow under advice under Assange and is protected by FSB, who is directly under Putin.

Hillary Clinton (enemy of Putin) - Putin blamed her claiming she was supporting regime change against him.  He is supporting Trump.  Russia, under Putin, supports right wing politics:

Give money to LePenn in France.  Give money to Golden Don in Greece, funds also went to Germany and Brittains UK-IP.  Putin was delighted by Brexit.  Russia wants to see a weak EU, a weak NATO and a weaker US. All entities that represent a check on Russias power and influence. They are putting together another empire.  They are concerned about picking up the scraps after the downfall of the West.

 
Alexander Dugan - he advised Putin on the annexation of Crimea and parts of Georgia.  Also leading charge of leading Russia to use far right in Europe.  Started his own party, logo means chaos.  He believes Hitler didn't go far enough.  He believes a new authoritarian global Hitler will change the world fundamentally, but through chaos.  In 99, he said the US would split in 5 parts - people in US already supported that. Looking to bring Dictators all over the world who will cobble together under Russia's banner.  He claims revolution is coming if the parties don't give the people the power.

 
Donald Trump (no business ties) - doesn't seem to have anything to do with this.  He may not have anything in Russia, but evidence that some of his closest campaign advisors do.  What does Russia have invested in Trump?  He needs to release his tax returns.

 
Paul Manafort - used to be top campaign/communications advisor for former Prime Minister of Pres of Ukraine.  That's where Russia invaded.  2014 crisis, which resulted in his removal from office.  Remains close ally of Putin. 

 
Carter Page is Trumps foreign policy advisor.  Had close connection with Gazprom, which is Russian energy company, run by former Putin aid. Under Putin, they raised their stakw in Gazprom after they jailed and killed a bunch of people, they have major share.  Page advised Gazprom, on their largest deals.  In 08, he formed Global Energy Capital LLC, which mostly councils foreign investors on buying assets in Russia. Page admitted the sanctions from Clinton/Obama, hurt him, by "drying up some of his potential deals".  He is also an investor with Gazprom and blames Obama/Clinton sanctions for driving down stock.

 
Richard Gurt - Advisor with Alfa Bank, which is the largest commercial bank in Russia.  He is on board with investment fund of large shares in Gazprom.

 
RNC passed agenda at convention, which was the parties softer stance on the Ukraine and Russia.
 WHO? Russia
 WHAT? Stole DNC emails and leaked them
 WHY? Chaos
 WHAT'S NEXT?  New World Order
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: WAC on July 28, 2016, 04:25:39 am
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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: anymouse on July 28, 2016, 06:00:43 am
We all came out to Montreux
On the Lake Geneva shoreline
To make records with a mobile
We didn't have much time
Frank Zappa and the Mothers
Were at the best place around
But some stupid with a flare gun
Burned the place to the ground
Smoke on the water, a fire in the sky
Smoke on the water

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Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 08:53:31 am
Trump likes give warnings.  Like he did with Ted/Heidi Cruz, starting around Jan.

While nasty in the primary, we can expect more in the general.

Trump is detestable. Pure scum.


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TRUMP!!!!
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: geronl on July 28, 2016, 08:57:38 am

Our side needs to do the same .  The dems always get together in the end.

Trump is not "my side". I still haven't found anything about the creepy sleazy scumbag that I don't hate
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: LonestarDream on July 28, 2016, 12:37:41 pm
Most of us do not want to see Hillary win, even if it means we elect someone who was not our first or second choice in the primary.
Title: Re: OPEN THREAD FOR DEMOCRAT CONVENTION - Wednesday, July 27
Post by: sinkspur on July 28, 2016, 02:04:40 pm
Stroll on over to the Thursday thread. Locking this one.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=218034.new#new