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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Wingnut on September 26, 2023, 03:44:10 pm

Title: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Wingnut on September 26, 2023, 03:44:10 pm
Man, they are really stretching it out there at MSPMS


Natalie Korach
Tue, September 26, 2023 at 11:06 AM EDT·2 min read
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MSNBC legal analyst and former FBI general counsel Andrew Weissmann joined Jen Psaki Monday to discuss the legal ramifications of footage where former President Donald Trump held a gun on a campaign stop in South Carolina.

The Trump campaign walked back statements on Monday that Trump bought a Glock handgun while in South Carolina for a campaign stop. In a video posted on social media, Trump was seen holding the firearm and saying that he “wants to buy one,” which would be illegal since he is currently charged with 91 felony counts.

“It’s unfathomable that you’re sitting here having that conversation,” said Weissmann. “He has been on air today about possessing a firearm.”

Weissmann continued that the magistrate judge told Trump that the most important thing to do when on bail is to not commit another crime. “Well, it is a crime for somebody who is charged with a felony to receive a gun. There are pictures on Twitter of him holding the gun,” said the MSNBC legal analyst.

“Does he need a receipt?” questioned Psaki. “His campaign came out and said he didn’t purchase it.”

“The law is not that you can’t buy a gun,” said Weissmann. “922(n) is that you cannot receive a gun that has traveled in interstate commerce. That just means that it’s traveled across state lines.”

Weissmann noted that the Glock Trump was holding in footage must have traveled across state lines “because they’re either made overseas or they’re made in Georgia, but they’re not made in South Carolina.”

https://news.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-broke-law-holding-glock-150604371.html
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: LMAO on September 26, 2023, 03:57:26 pm
So holding a Handgun is illegal?
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mountaineer on September 26, 2023, 03:58:09 pm
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“Well, it is a crime for somebody who is charged with a felony to receive a gun. There are pictures on Twitter of him holding the gun,” said the MSNBC legal analyst.
*****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 26, 2023, 04:00:26 pm
No such laws or restrictions exist. It is a complete fabrication.

Practically every gun sold in the US travels across state lines.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2023, 04:04:01 pm
Are they going to indict him................../s
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: bigheadfred on September 26, 2023, 04:12:47 pm
Someone stop him. He is headed for 5th Avenue.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Wingnut on September 26, 2023, 04:21:08 pm
Someone stop him. He is headed for 5th Avenue.

Nice!  Even "Top Notch" as an esteemed member use to say!
 :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 26, 2023, 04:37:31 pm
Someone stop him. He is headed for 5th Avenue.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lpsKzUb1tU8/TqGbL1drdVI/AAAAAAAAAJk/JS3ey8aChY4/s1600/Winston%2BChurchill.jpg)

Well played sir, well played.

Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: PeteS in CA on September 26, 2023, 04:55:07 pm
I'll gladly yield to someone with actual knowledge, but I think the standard would be no criminal convictions, no restrictions. People can't be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 26, 2023, 05:00:19 pm
Trump breaks many laws, but never gets convicted.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2023, 05:19:18 pm
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1706409777771798905
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2023, 05:20:32 pm
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1706427095872590334
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 26, 2023, 05:24:41 pm
Wow. They are really fishing for anything to hang him with.

'Hold muh beer'... HA! YOU'RE AN ALCOHOLIC!
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Sighlass on September 26, 2023, 05:47:40 pm
Anyone else get the feeling Trump has never actually shot a handgun before... When I pick up a gun that looks halfway interesting, I have got to feel the balance of it in a shooting position (finger off the trigger of course). I guess I should give Trump some slack (when he is not discussing taking gun rights without due process), a photo opt is not really the time to be aiming guns around (too crowded). If really serious about a gun, I want to feel the trigger pull tension too.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: GtHawk on September 26, 2023, 07:13:17 pm
Anyone else get the feeling Trump has never actually shot a handgun before... When I pick up a gun that looks halfway interesting, I have got to feel the balance of it in a shooting position (finger off the trigger of course). I guess I should give Trump some slack (when he is not discussing taking gun rights without due process), a photo opt is not really the time to be aiming guns around (too crowded). If really serious about a gun, I want to feel the trigger pull tension too.
I don't know if there are more pictures than the two, but can you imagine the hysteria if they had images of him holding the gun in a firing grip, sighting down the slide and his finger on the trigger? (https://i.imgur.com/YAcBZ4t.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Bigun on September 26, 2023, 07:35:58 pm
I don't know if there are more pictures than the two, but can you imagine the hysteria if they had images of him holding the gun in a firing grip, sighting down the slide and his finger on the trigger? (https://i.imgur.com/YAcBZ4t.jpg)

:yowsa: You would not be able to escape the din even if you were on a deserted island in the middle of the South Pacific.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mountaineer on September 26, 2023, 07:43:15 pm
Anyone else get the feeling Trump has never actually shot a handgun before...
I don't suppose he has. Of course, even touching one of those eeeevvvilllllllllllll handguns - as Trump did - is as bad as committing mass murder, dontcha know.

As for his breaking the law by holding a pistol in his hands, I doubt it. Presumption of innocence, and all that.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Kamaji on September 26, 2023, 07:50:15 pm
Trump didn't break the law by holding a firearm.  Good lord!
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mountaineer on September 26, 2023, 07:52:34 pm
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“The law is not that you can’t buy a gun,” said Weissmann. “922(n) is that you cannot receive a gun that has traveled in interstate commerce. That just means that it’s traveled across state lines.”

Weissmann noted that the Glock Trump was holding in footage must have traveled across state lines “because they’re either made overseas or they’re made in Georgia, but they’re not made in South Carolina.”
No guns are manufactured in my state. May as well cuff me now, according to this asshat.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: bigheadfred on September 26, 2023, 07:59:00 pm
Not worth starting a new thread for this. But here it is:

https://news.yahoo.com/sick-racist-message-behind-why-160041585.html

The Sick, Racist Message Behind Why Trump Chose That Particular Gun Store
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: PeteS in CA on September 26, 2023, 08:09:41 pm
Not worth starting a new thread for this. But here it is:

https://news.yahoo.com/sick-racist-message-behind-why-160041585.html

The Sick, Racist Message Behind Why Trump Chose That Particular Gun Store

Even by "The New Republic" standards, that claim is silly.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 26, 2023, 09:41:28 pm
FTA:

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Weissmann continued that the magistrate judge told Trump that the most important thing to do when on bail is to not commit another crime. “Well, it is a crime for somebody who is charged with a felony to receive a gun. There are pictures on Twitter of him holding the gun,” said the MSNBC legal analyst.

I don't think that is correct.  I think he has to be convicted.

@Kamaji
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: mountaineer on September 26, 2023, 09:51:11 pm
I don't think that is correct.  I think he has to be convicted.
Presumed innocent - except Trump, of course.
Title: Re: Trump Broke the Law by Holding a Glock, Former FBI Counsel Says
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 27, 2023, 04:50:33 am
FTA:

I don't think that is correct.  I think he has to be convicted.

@Kamaji

Yep, must be convicted. And even a convicted felon can look at a gun, just not buy it. Many states only require a driver's license to inspect a weapon.

And the state lines crap doesn't mean anything.