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Title: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: 240B on March 16, 2018, 02:44:21 am

Constitution
By Onan Coca 
March 15, 2018

Apparently, when you work for President Trump, your job may simply never be “secure.”

Or maybe, the President is just a true believer in getting a constantly revolving, fresh perspective on the issues that he’s dealing with from day to day?

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https://constitution.com/breaking-h-r-mcmaster-national-security-advisor/
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: mystery-ak on March 16, 2018, 02:51:01 am
I just hope none of these people who got fired bought a house or signed a long term lease..lol

The Hill's headline tonight..lol

Washington wonders: Who will get axed next?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378708-top-trump-officials-wonder-if-theyll-be-fired-next (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378708-top-trump-officials-wonder-if-theyll-be-fired-next)
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: 240B on March 16, 2018, 02:54:15 am
I just hope none of these people who got fired bought a house or signed a long term lease..lol

The Hill's headline tonight..lol

Washington wonders: Who will get axed next?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378708-top-trump-officials-wonder-if-theyll-be-fired-next (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/378708-top-trump-officials-wonder-if-theyll-be-fired-next)

It seems clear that Trump is doing an overhaul of his staff. Likely because he wants to get more of his agenda done before the midterm. And he cannot do that with his current pro-Obama/pro-Hillary staff.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: mystery-ak on March 16, 2018, 02:55:43 am
It seems clear that Trump is doing an overhaul of his staff. Likely because he wants to get more of his agenda done before the midterm. And he cannot do that with his current pro-Obama/pro-Hillary staff.

Well I don't blame him..you want people who share your vision,,that is his right
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Suppressed on March 16, 2018, 02:57:21 am
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0#)

(http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/donald-trump-only-best-inauguration-president-obmam__oPt.jpg)
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Bigun on March 16, 2018, 02:58:09 am
The swamp is deeper and wider than originally thought!
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 03:01:39 am
Oh no. Not McMaster. Now the entire Federal Govt' will grind to a halt if not the whole world.

BTW, what did this guy do again? I'm drawing a blank.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Suppressed on March 16, 2018, 03:10:04 am
Well I don't blame him..you want people who share your vision,,that is his right

Yes, it is.

However, it's clear that he has misled the American people and/or overstated his qualifications.  He has either not hired only the best, or he is leaving us without "the best".

If every Trump supporter had the intellectual honesty to admit this and say, "Mr. Trump, you campaigned on conservative claims, and we're not going to give you a bit of attention until you act presidential, focus on the promises, and achieve what you promised,"

...and then not give him a bit of applause, attention, etc., not attendance at a rally, nothing...not until he changed...

...then we could perhaps achieve some things more major than fiat removal of some minor regulations, $1.5 trillion in debt, etc.




But, instead, we find them holding a blanket up to try to cover the giant ass with no clothes.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: aligncare on March 16, 2018, 03:10:50 am
Great. Trump has  had enough of these losers and is clearly applying a tighter grip on the reins. Now, if only Sessions would get his pink slip...
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Suppressed on March 16, 2018, 03:12:26 am
BTW, what did this guy do again? I'm drawing a blank.

Well, we can say, "Trump was totally clueless about security issues around the world!" and if you believe that, then I guess he didn't do well.  But if you think Trump was well informed, then I guess he did a good job.


If you knew specifics, you'd be moaning about leaks.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 03:21:46 am
Yes, it is.

However, it's clear that he has misled the American people and/or overstated his qualifications.  He has either not hired only the best, or he is leaving us without "the best".

If every Trump supporter had the intellectual honesty to admit this and say, "Mr. Trump, you campaigned on conservative claims, and we're not going to give you a bit of attention until you act presidential, focus on the promises, and achieve what you promised,"

...and then not give him a bit of applause, attention, etc., not attendance at a rally, nothing...not until he changed...

...then we could perhaps achieve some things more major than fiat removal of some minor regulations, $1.5 trillion in debt, etc.




But, instead, we find them holding a blanket up to try to cover the giant ass with no clothes.

Well you hate Donny so a supporter like me doesn't really care about your definition of "Conservative" or who and who isn't "the best people" (a throw away line in a stump speech no one except President haters cite). I will also point out that the people you hoist up as the truest true are as corrupt or more so than the way you describe the President. That is why you are forced to parrot the daily talking points being shoveled off the shit wagon called WaPo on a daily basis to make yourself feel relevant.

The world you claim to want to preserve never existed. Your arguments against the President are boilerplate Lib talking points. You cannot cite any tangible policies that the President has enacted up to this point that were to the left of Bush. Your a broken record reminding others that your political acuity is about as precise as the build quality of a Yugo.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: INVAR on March 16, 2018, 03:35:54 am
(http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/donald-trump-only-best-inauguration-president-obmam__oPt.jpg)

I was about to post the same meme.

Whatever the reasons - the perception being broadcast and seen across the globe is that Trump's government is entirely unstable and chaotic.

It's obvious that whatever Trump has said in stump speeches, in interviews, in rallies or wherever he utters a syllable - is only viable at the moment he said it and irrelevant the moment Trump begins a new sentence.  That goes for 'only the best people' that Trump has hired and put into leadership positions in his government.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 03:47:06 am
I was about to post the same meme.

Whatever the reasons - the perception being broadcast and seen across the globe is that Trump's government is entirely unstable and chaotic.

It's obvious that whatever Trump has said in stump speeches, in interviews, in rallies or wherever he utters a syllable - is only viable at the moment he said it and irrelevant the moment Trump begins a new sentence.  That goes for 'only the best people' that Trump has hired and put into leadership positions in his government.

Well considering you are bankrupt of decent ideas that are saleable to the the voters in the US and absolutely no viable candidates that are electable, looks like every one of your mutterances are moot before you hit the "post" button.....and that makes me feel good inside. 
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: edpc on March 16, 2018, 03:52:56 am
Sarah Sanders

@PressSec

Just spoke to @POTUS and Gen. H.R. McMaster - contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.

9:12 PM · Mar 15, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/PressSec/status/974468508074565632


WSJ is saying they have sources confirming McMaster is still out, despite this tweet.  We’ll see if Sanders is being hung out to dry.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wsj
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Suppressed on March 16, 2018, 04:12:17 am
Well you hate Donny so a supporter like me doesn't really care about your definition of "Conservative" or who and who isn't "the best people" (a throw away line in a stump speech no one except President haters cite). I will also point out that the people you hoist up as the truest true are as corrupt or more so than the way you describe the President. That is why you are forced to parrot the daily talking points being shoveled off the shit wagon called WaPo on a daily basis to make yourself feel relevant.

The world you claim to want to preserve never existed. Your arguments against the President are boilerplate Lib talking points. You cannot cite any tangible policies that the President has enacted up to this point that were to the left of Bush. Your a broken record reminding others that your political acuity is about as precise as the build quality of a Yugo.

I know you don't care that Trump is pushing us down a slope into a leftist swamp by building one heck of a backlash against the GOP and conservatism, based on his phony branding, but let's go to your comment about W (someone I wouldn't call "conservstive").

Remember that time he called for boosting our borrowing by $1 trillion more?

Yeah, me neither.

Or called for suspending the first amendment protections, preferring the UK to the IS?

Yeah, Bush didn't.

Or said there should be paid leave guaranteed at the muzzle of government guns?

Yeah, that wasn't Bush, either.

Or spent every day doing his best to make this great republic look like a carnival freak show?

Yeah, not Bush.

But you're right.  Donnie has enacted so little, it's tough to find anything he's actually enacted, despite his deceitful bluster.  Good point.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: anubias on March 16, 2018, 04:16:04 am
Great. Trump has  had enough of these losers and is clearly applying a tighter grip on the reins. Now, if only Sessions would get his pink slip...

Exactly.  Glad McMasters if finally gone.  Sessions can’t go soon enough for me.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 04:18:18 am
I know you don't care that Trump is pushing us down a slope into a leftist swamp by building one heck of a backlash against the GOP and conservatism, based on his phony branding, but let's go to your comment about W (someone I wouldn't call "conservstive").

Remember that time he called for boosting our borrowing by $1 trillion more?

Yeah, me neither.

Or called for suspending the first amendment protections, preferring the UK to the IS?

Yeah, Bush didn't.

Or said there should be paid leave guaranteed at the muzzle of government guns?

Yeah, that wasn't Bush, either.

Or spent every day doing his best to make this great republic look like a carnival freak show?

Yeah, not Bush.

But you're right.  Donnie has enacted so little, it's tough to find anything he's actually enacted, despite his deceitful bluster.  Good point.

See. You cannot cite one policy that Trump enacted that was Leftist. Just a bunch of quotes that no one cares about. You ignore the fact that the GOP you love so much refuses to do even the most basic things like eliminate Obamacare or cut spending.

If the GOP lost the House and Senate, would anyone know? Would anyone care?
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on March 16, 2018, 04:20:14 am



An image from perezhilton.com?
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: INVAR on March 16, 2018, 04:25:14 am
Well considering you are bankrupt of decent ideas that are saleable to the the voters in the US and absolutely no viable candidates that are electable, looks like every one of your mutterances are moot before you hit the "post" button.....and that makes me feel good inside.

I'll concede the fact that what passes for 'decent ideas' and sound principles are a no-sale in today's Amerika.  We have already been fundamentally transformed.

And what is a no-sale today in PA regarding abortion (as you stated on another thread) - will be a no-sale tomorrow when it comes to gun rights and freedom of speech and religion.

A little leaven, leavens the entire lump.

Another way of putting it is that a little Socialism and Big Government here - and soon - it's what everyone wants and expects and the ideas of limited government and personal liberty are discarded for more Statism.

And, the more chaos and uncertainty one creates - the easier it is to get people to accept whatever is promised to bring stability.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 04:30:49 am

And, the more chaos and uncertainty one creates - the easier it is to get people to accept whatever is promised to bring stability.

Sorry. This freedom you speak of is already gone thanks to a previous administration who presided over chaos and used it to craft some of the most restrictive and dangerous policies and agencies since Woodrow Wilson..........George W Bush.

Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: DB on March 16, 2018, 04:37:10 am
So at what point is Trump going to be responsible for what the people he hires do?

It seems everyone is to blame except the guy who selected them...
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: edpc on March 16, 2018, 04:45:43 am
So at what point is Trump going to be responsible for what the people he hires do?

It seems everyone is to blame except the guy who selected them...


At least they’re being chosen for good reasons.....


Several candidates have emerged as possible McMaster replacements, including John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and Keith Kellogg, the chief of staff of the National Security Council.

Kellogg travels with Trump on many domestic trips, in part because the president likes his company and thinks he is fun. Bolton has met with Trump several times and often agrees with the president's instincts. Trump also thinks Bolton, who regularly praises the president on Fox News Channel, is good on television.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-hr-mcmaster-20180315-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-hr-mcmaster-20180315-story.html)
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: XenaLee on March 16, 2018, 04:52:46 am
Ho hum.   This really is turning out to be the Year of the Purge....

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=182&v=rY0WxgSXdEE#)
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: INVAR on March 16, 2018, 04:55:52 am
Sorry. This freedom you speak of is already gone thanks to a previous administration who presided over chaos and used it to craft some of the most restrictive and dangerous policies and agencies since Woodrow Wilson..........George W Bush.

It's been a slow, incremental slide into oblivion I will grant you.

Some place it's genesis at 1865, others in 1913 and others since the Bushes and the stains that were the Clintons and Obama's.

Cannot say we are not warned in advance.

"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it" - John Adams

"When virtue is banished, ambition invades the minds of those who are disposed to receive it, and avarice possesses the whole community." - Montesquieu as quoted by Thomas Jefferson

"It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising their sovereignty." - James Monroe
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Suppressed on March 16, 2018, 05:26:22 am
An image from perezhilton.com?

Yeah. Amazing how Donnie's direct words are that offensive!
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 16, 2018, 05:30:54 am
It's been a slow, incremental slide into oblivion I will grant you.

No it wasn't. It was the stroke of a pen on a piece of paper falsely coined the Patriot Act. The GOP cheered it. Obama used to destroy his opponents. It still sits there today destroying whomever trifles with the federal govt'.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: edpc on March 16, 2018, 10:31:18 am
No it wasn't. It was the stroke of a pen on a piece of paper falsely coined the Patriot Act. The GOP cheered it. Obama used to destroy his opponents. It still sits there today destroying whomever trifles with the federal govt'.


Not defending Bush or the Patriot Act, but everything we’ve heard since 2016 about Russian collusion has been centered around FISA.  That’s been in place since 1978, introduced by Ted Kennedy and signed by Carter.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Stevensr123 on March 16, 2018, 12:14:14 pm
It seems clear that Trump is doing an overhaul of his staff. Likely because he wants to get more of his agenda done before the midterm. And he cannot do that with his current pro-Obama/pro-Hillary staff.
Pro Obama/Hillary staff? Who hired all these people again?
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: jpsb on March 16, 2018, 12:15:10 pm
I know you don't care that Trump is pushing us down a slope into a leftist swamp by building one heck of a backlash against the GOP and conservatism, based on his phony branding

There is a backlash building but not because of Trump. It is because of phony republicans like
McCain that voted to repeal Ocare when did not matter. But refused to vote for repeal when it
did matter. If the GOP would keep it's campaign promises and implement Trump's agenda like
building the damn wall there would be no backlash this Nov.

Fire Jeff Sessions.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: jpsb on March 16, 2018, 12:20:24 pm
No it wasn't. It was the stroke of a pen on a piece of paper falsely coined the Patriot Act. The GOP cheered it. Obama used to destroy his opponents. It still sits there today destroying whomever trifles with the federal govt'.

And let's not forget Reagan's war on drugs that also was a huge blow to civil liberties. No knock
laws, warrantless searches, property forfeitures and that gift that keeps giving, amnesty to Rat
voting illegals.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: endicom on March 16, 2018, 12:38:24 pm
And let's not forget Reagan's war on drugs that also was a huge blow to civil liberties. No knock
laws, warrantless searches, property forfeitures and that gift that keeps giving, amnesty to Rat
voting illegals.


True.

Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Applewood on March 16, 2018, 12:45:44 pm
Great. Trump has  had enough of these losers and is clearly applying a tighter grip on the reins. Now, if only Sessions would get his pink slip...

Funny thing is that when many of  these people were hired, they were praised by Trump for all the good they were going to do in their jobs.  And of course, Trump supporters, on cue, fawned over them and sung their idol's praises for his wisdom. In hiring them. 

Now that these people are out, or about to be canned, they are all incompetent bums.
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: Concerned on March 16, 2018, 12:50:54 pm
Funny thing is that when many of  these people were hired, they were praised by Trump for all the good they were going to do in their jobs.  And of course, Trump supporters, on cue, fawned over them and sung their idol's praises for his wisdom. In hiring them. 

Now that these people are out, or about to be canned, they are all incompetent bums.

“There are those that are saying it’s one of the finest group of people ever assembled as a candidate — as a Cabinet. This is a tremendous amount of talent. We have just gotten really, really, great people. I’m very proud of them.” 

President Donald J Trump
October 16, 2017
Title: Re: BREAKING! H.R. McMaster OUT as National Security Advisor!
Post by: DB on March 16, 2018, 07:40:59 pm
And let's not forget Reagan's war on drugs that also was a huge blow to civil liberties. No knock
laws, warrantless searches, property forfeitures and that gift that keeps giving, amnesty to Rat
voting illegals.

I absolutely agree. That was Reagan's biggest failure. A failure that we are still paying a heavy price for. Sessions has just expanded asset forfeitures and is making the problems worse not better.