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Title: EXCLUSIVE: The FBI Secretly Pressured Americans To Waive Away Their Gun Rights
Post by: mountaineer on September 08, 2022, 07:12:45 pm
EXCLUSIVE: The FBI Secretly Pressured Americans To Waive Away Their Gun Rights
Gabe Kaminsky, Investigative Reporter
September 06, 2022 7:41 PM ET
DAILY CALLER (https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/06/fbi-second-amendment-nics/)
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    * The FBI secretly provided forms to Americans between 2016 and 2019 to “voluntarily” relinquish their rights to own, buy or even use firearms, according to internal documents and communications.
   * The signed forms, which were unearthed by the firearms rights group Gun Owners of America (GOA), raise serious legal questions, lawyers say.
  *  “We’re into a pre-crime, Minority Report type of world where the FBI believes it can take constitutional rights away from anyone it thinks possibly might pose a threat in the future,” said Robert Olson, outside counsel for GOA.

The FBI secretly pressured Americans into signing forms that relinquish their rights to own, purchase or even use firearms, according to a trove of internal documents and communications obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The forms were presented by the FBI to people at their homes and in other undisclosed locations, according to bureau documents unearthed through the Freedom of Information Act by the firearm rights group Gun Owners of America (GOA) and shared with the DCNF. At least 15 people between 2016 and 2019 signed the secret forms, which ask signatories to declare themselves as either a “danger” to themselves or others or lacking “mental capacity adequately to contract or manage” their lives.  ...

The form specifies that signatories will be permanently registered with the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) — which the form states would legally bar signatories from being able to “purchase, to possess and to use any firearm.” It is unclear what exact criteria the FBI used to identify signatories, but some forms include bureau notes detailing ongoing investigations.

Many signatories allegedly made violent threats in online chat rooms, in person and on social media platforms, FBI notes show. The 15 signed forms obtained by the DCNF show FBI agents in Massachusetts, Michigan and Maine presented them to Americans — whose names were redacted by the bureau.  ...
The only surprise is that there weren't more people signing the forms.
Title: Re: EXCLUSIVE: The FBI Secretly Pressured Americans To Waive Away Their Gun Rights
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 08, 2022, 07:21:31 pm
This is why we don't make threats.

Save your breath, and never engage in that silliness.
Cuss and mutter in the privacy of your own home, if you feel the need.

If (hopefully never) and when the time comes for something more substantial than discussion, the time for discussion will be over, anyway, and words will be moot.
Title: Re: EXCLUSIVE: The FBI Secretly Pressured Americans To Waive Away Their Gun Rights
Post by: EdinVA on September 08, 2022, 09:04:47 pm
So this was under comey, wray and barrs watch.... 
Title: Re: EXCLUSIVE: The FBI Secretly Pressured Americans To Waive Away Their Gun Rights
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 08, 2022, 09:43:12 pm
You can't sign-away a Constitutional right ... any and all signatories can assert that they signed under duress and coercion from agents of the Government.