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Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
By Gopal Ratnam
Posted June 18, 2020 at 5:56pm
House Intelligence Committee, with Republicans absent, urges social media platforms to be vigilant about disinformation
Facebook on Thursday took down a Trump campaign ad that used an inverted red triangle — a Nazi symbol used to designate political prisoners in concentration camps — to target “far-left†groups and so-called antifa.
The ads appeared in paid posts by the Team Trump campaign as well as by President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence. They began running on Wednesday and had as many as 1 million impressions before being taken down, The Washington Post reported.
“We removed these posts and ads for violating our policy against organized hate,†a Facebook spokeswoman said in an email. “Our policy prohibits using a banned hate group's symbol to identify political prisoners without the context that condemns or discusses the symbol.â€
The Facebook ads said, "Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups are running through our streets and causing absolute mayhem. They are DESTROYING our cities and rioting — it's absolute madness." Below the copy was the inverted red triangle that Nazis used to designate political prisoners.
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/18/facebook-takes-down-trump-campaign-ads-with-nazi-symbol/ (https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/18/facebook-takes-down-trump-campaign-ads-with-nazi-symbol/)
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This is an emoji.🔻
It's also a symbol widely used by Antifa. It was used in an ad about Antifa.
It is not in the ADL's Hate Symbols Database.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eazm71xXQAAubI1?format=jpg&name=small)
In a comment to Breitbart News, Trump Campaign Director of Communications Tim Murtaugh said: “The inverted red triangle is a symbol used by Antifa, so it was included in an ad about Antifa. We would note that Facebook still has an inverted red triangle emoji in use, which looks exactly the same, so it’s curious that they would target only this ad. The image is also not included in the Anti-Defamation League’s database of symbols of hate. But it is ironic that it took a Trump ad to force the media to implicitly concede that Antifa is a hate group.â€
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/06/18/facebook-bans-trump-campaign-ad-that-denounces-antifa-violence/ (https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/06/18/facebook-bans-trump-campaign-ad-that-denounces-antifa-violence/)
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Geometric shapes can be racist? Why didn't Euclid warn us?!!! *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
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Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman
Big Tech has gone insane.
They are banning a @realDonaldTrump ad that looks exactly the same as one of Facebook’s own emojis, graphics used on every cable network, and street signs all across the country.
Are you kidding me?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea0InL3WsAAx9tS?format=png&name=small)
https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1273683742079533058
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Its the same illuminati symbol Trump makes with his hands all the time.
the ads said nothing about it being Antifa symbol. And I can't find it on images under Antifa.
It also symbolizes family planning and population control
An inverted Red Triangle is the symbol for family planning health and contraception services, much as the red cross is a symbol for medical services.[citation needed] It is especially prevalent in many developing nations such as India, Ghana, Gambia, Zimbabwe, Egypt and Thailand, where it can be seen outside shops and clinics that offer family planning products, and as in commercial and government messages that promote reproductive health services and population control. It is frequently placed on contraceptive products, such as condoms, diaphragms, spermicidal gel, and IUDs (for instance, on the government-subsidized Nirodh condoms in India and Sultan condoms in Gambia).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Triangle_(family_planning)
The gays use it too
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This stuff is about as crazy as saying the "OK" sign is racist.
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This stuff is about as crazy as saying the "OK" sign is racist.
What was the purpose then? They didn't put one that had Antifa written inside. It was posted deliberately with some intention. What was it? People should be careful about symbolism.
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4.0 out of 5 stars
History of attacks on Masonry from the Nazis onwards
Reviewed in the United States on June 27, 2011
Most people know that when Nazi Germany began the campaign of persecution against the Jews which was to culminate in the gas chambers of Auschwitz, they started by forcing them to wear an identifying badge. Rather fewer people know that Hitler's regime also required the other groups they were trying to make scapegoats for Germany's problems, such as gays and masons, to wear similar distinguishing badges.
The Red Triangle was the badge which the nazis ordered freemasons to wear. (Jews had to wear a yellow triangle, gays a pink one).
That's the sort of detail you will pick up in this book, written by the Curator of the Grand Lodge of Scotland.
The author was clearly provoked into writing this book by the campaign of vilification of Freemasonry by the British and particularly Scottish press which followed the Dunblane massacre. (For those who have not heard of this sickening tragedy, a lone gunman walked into a school and shot dead a teacher and most of a class of small children.) This book is to some extent a response to that those attacks.
The author is manifestly (and justifiably) furious about the fact that within a few days of the Dunblane tragedy it was (wrongly) suggested in a newspaper that the murderer had been a freemason, that within days of that suggestion half the British media were repeating this suggesion as if it had been a fact and putting forward a narrative that the murderer had been protected by fellow-masons in the local police, and that this was used as pretext for an orgy of verbal mason-bashing.
This narrative contained not one shred of truth: the offical inquiry confirmed that the murderer, Thomas Hamilton was not and had never been a freemason - in fact the masons were one of the (many) groups against whom he had an axe to grind.
(The killer did have a relative by the same name who had been a mason, and it is not quite impossible that some of those who put forward the allegation that the murderer had been protected because he was a mason had confused the two men).
Mr Cooper's sense of anger and injustice at the barrage of criticisms which were launched against Freemasonry as a result of this misapprehension comes through very strongly in the book. It might have been slightly more effective, particularly from the perspective of non-masons, if in one or two places the author had taken a step back, thought about how an unbiased but not necessarily well-informed outsider might see things, and taken a little more time to calmly explain precisely why some of the allegations made by the modern press are unfair. I write this as a mason myself, and one who agrees with most of what he writes. But I suspect a completely neutral and fair-minded observer would find it difficult to argue with Mr Cooper's contention that some critics of masonry had judged the organisation guilty before making any attempt to assess the evidence, or to give fair opportunity for a reply.
This book neither is not claims to be a comprehensive account of prejudice against masons, but it does include the best account I have read of the aspects of the Nazi holocaust which were directed against European masonry.
The fact that Hitler murdered six million Jews, and a similar number of gypsies, in his insane attempt to eradicate two entire races has naturally and rightly attracted a huge amount of attention.
There were other campaigns of mass murder which were part of the same process, and which entailed an amount of death and suffering which would normally cause them to be remembered in their own right among the worst crimes in history, but because the number of victims was one or two orders of magnitude smaller than the numbers of Jews and Gypsies who died in the "Final Solution," these further crimes have tended to be overlooked or subsumed in the overall tragedy.
One such campaign was the attempt by the Nazis to exterminate Freemasonry, an organisation which they condemned because it brings men of all races and different religions together, and this was offensive to Nazi racial and nationalist views. The nazis also associated Masonry with the mythical worldwide "Jewish conspiracy".
It is impossible to be certain how many masons were murdered by the Nazi regime and those of their fascist allies such as Franco and Mussolini, but it was certainly in the tens of thousands, and the estimate of 80,000 quoted in this book is probably as close to accurate as anyone can hope to get.
Each time the nazi regime conquered another country, one of the first things they did was move against all those citizens of that countries who they considered their enemies, including Jews, trade unionists, Communists, and freemasons. All too many of their victims in all those categories ended up dead. Plans for the occupation of Britain drawn up by Hitler's regime in 1940 and found by the allies after the war prove that if the nazis had won the Battle of Britain the same would have happened in the United Kingdom. Masons figured prominently on the lists of British people who the Nazis had marked down as hostile elements to be arrested in the event of a successful German invasion.
I learned from this book that the administrator of the Holocaust, Adolf Eichmann, began his career in the Nazi Security service (SD) by collecting intelligence on Freemasons, and later employed some of the experience he gained by monitoring masons when he moved to the department which monitored Jewish people and ultimately organised their mass murder.
In this context it is hardly surprising that from the time of the Second World War until memories of the Nazi persecution began to fade about 50 years later, masonry in many European countries including Britain went through a period of being rather more secretive than had hitherto, or has subsequently, been the case.
In Britain this secrecy was deliberately abandoned in the mid 1990's. Freemasonry today cannot be described by any reasonable and informed person as a "secret society" - which unfortunately does not stop that allegation from being made.
If anyone reading this has a problem with the statement that Freemasonry is not a secret society, ask yourself this.
How many secret societies have a headquarters which is openly described on any decent map of London or Edinburgh, which they rent out to bodies like the Royal Opera House for public events, and of which they offer the general public daily tours? Or for that matter a huge memorial building in the American capital which is one of the most prominent buildings on the skyline of Washington D.C. and which is also open to the public? (I refer to the George Washinton masonic memorial building, which includes a tower which gives arguably the best view of the capital city.)
How many secret societies have a website which anyone can access? What sort of secret society publishes yearbooks with lists of their officers, and a directory of lodges and chapters which anyone can buy online, listing all branches and where and when they meet? How many secret societies are listed in the phone directory?
All these things are true either of the United Grand Lodge of England, the Grand Lodge of Scotland, and mostly both. My impression is that very much the same applies to Masonry in the United States.
This book is written partly from a British perspective and partly from a Scottish one. It begins with the Dunblane murders, and the suggestion in the press that the killer, Thomas Hamilton, might have been a mason. It continues with a fairly detailed account of the torrent of press and political attacks on masonry which followed.
As mentioned, "The red triangle" does not claim to be a comprehensive survey: it concentrates mostly on the holocaust and on political and press opposition to masonry in Europe and Britain. If you want to read a book which complements this, you may be interested in "A Pilgrim's Path: Freemasonry and the Religious Right" by the late US historian John Robinson which concentrates on religious opposition to masonry, particularly but by no means exclusively in America.
Overall "The Red Triangle" is a reasonably well written study which should be of interest both to anyone who wants to learn about a little-known aspect of the Holocaust, or is making a study of how groups can become the target of a media "feeding frenzy." It isn't really an answer to anti-masonic books like "The Brotherhood" but it will give the reader an idea of how books like that appear to people on the receiving end.
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Triangle-History-Anti-Masonry/dp/0853183325 (https://www.amazon.com/Red-Triangle-History-Anti-Masonry/dp/0853183325)
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There are approximately 2,000,000 Freemasons in the United States and over 5,000,000 world wide though membership is declining. Though their various lodges have websites due to modern day technology, many of their "secrets" are still secret. Memorization of those secrets is passed on from person to person; generation after generation.
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Any port in a storm, @Chosen Daughter. Anything to make the point that Trump is the evilest person to ever set foot in the White Hut. How much rent do you normally charge for that space in your head where Trump lives?
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Any port in a storm, @Chosen Daughter. Anything to make the point that Trump is the evilest person to ever set foot in the White Hut. How much rent do you normally charge for that space in your head where Trump lives?
Well take your pick. It could mean many things.
Red triangle – political prisoners: social democrats, liberals, socialists, communists, anarchists, gentiles who assisted Jews; trade unionists; and Freemasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge#Single_triangle
I didn't post it. Trump and Pence did. Somebody knows what they were trying to convey. I guess Facebook made a decision according to what they knew. Maybe Q knows what the secret symbol posted meant to them?
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The triangular pin that Trump's inner circle wear so the Secret Service can spot them - sending conspiracy theorists wild with bizarre claims about Nazis and secret societies
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4095014/Members-Trump-s-inner-circle-wearing-triangle-pin-identify-Secret-Service.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4095014/Members-Trump-s-inner-circle-wearing-triangle-pin-identify-Secret-Service.html)
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Its the same illuminati symbol Trump makes with his hands all the time. ...
The gays use it too
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Any port in a storm, @Chosen Daughter. Anything to make the point that Trump is the evilest person to ever set foot in the White Hut. How much rent do you normally charge for that space in your head where Trump lives?
And you are complaining about me. Just wait for the full blowback from Jewish people.
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:silly: Maybe some Mod should move this thread to the Alternate Realities forum. :silly:
Was Euclid a Freemason? Of the Illuminati? Opus Dei? All three, :silly: ?
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And you are complaining about me. Just wait for the full blowback from Jewish people.
@Cyber Liberty Do you need help from some more nurses, to get her back in her room, and to take her meds?
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There’s conspiracy theories and then there are conspiracy theories, but this one missed its connecting flight to sanity and lost its luggage.
Someone should write a book on Trump conspiracies. A coffee table joke book. Be a barrels of laughs at a party.
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And you are complaining about me. Just wait for the full blowback from Jewish people.
Could you please explain what you meant by this comment?
Have you confused the pink and yellow triangles of Nazi Germany - signifying homosexuals and Jews, respectively, with a red triangle? Just trying to understand. Thanks.
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Could you please explain what you meant by this comment?
Have you confused the pink and yellow triangles of Nazi Germany - signifying homosexuals and Jews, respectively, with a red triangle? Just trying to understand. Thanks.
Red triangle – political prisoners: social democrats, liberals, socialists, communists, anarchists, gentiles who assisted Jews; trade unionists; and Freemasons.
And it seems that the Trump campaign has used the red triangle with Antifa across it to explain why they posted a Nazi patch on their facebook. Nazi's had patches for all the different people they imprisoned. So if the point was anarchy they used the right Nazi symbol. And I could not find the same Antifa red triangle with Antifa written in it. Only from Trump trying to cover using Nazi symbolism.
From Montreal Holocaust Museum
Classification of Prisoners in Nazi Camps
The Nazis persecuted Jews and other groups whom they considered to be against the regime or not belonging to the “Aryan raceâ€. Each group of prisoners was identified by a different-coloured triangle: black for the Roma and anti-socials, purple for Jehovah’s Witnesses, pink for homosexuals, green for criminals, and red for political opponents. This last category included communists, persons who were active in resistance movements and individuals who openly opposed the Nazi regime.
https://museeholocauste.ca/en/objects/identification-badge-of-a-political-prisoner-nazi-camps/ (https://museeholocauste.ca/en/objects/identification-badge-of-a-political-prisoner-nazi-camps/)
The Nazis used triangles to identify the reasons why concentration camp prisoners were there.
Upon seeing the ad, last night, advocacy group Bend the Arc: Jewish Action pointed out that the Nazis used precisely the same upside-down red triangle “to mark political prisoners and people who rescued Jews.â€
“Their masks are off,†Bend the Arc tweeted.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-ad-nazi-symbol/ (https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-ad-nazi-symbol/)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/facebook-removes-trump-ads-containing-symbol-used-by-nazis/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/facebook-removes-trump-ads-containing-symbol-used-by-nazis/)
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So, @Chosen Daughter, Trump is to be prohibited from using any triangles in his advertising, even though Antifa can use it any way they want? I can see the reasoning behind that, Bookface doesn't want the Bad Orange Man advertising on "their" platform, and thus contribute to his winning.
It helps make the case they should not have the anti-trust exemption they enjoy.
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Red triangle – political prisoners: social democrats, liberals, socialists, communists, anarchists, gentiles who assisted Jews; trade unionists; and Freemasons.
And it seems that the Trump campaign has used the red triangle with Antifa across it to explain why they posted a Nazi patch on their facebook. Nazi's had patches for all the different people they imprisoned. So if the point was anarchy they used the right Nazi symbol. And I could not find the same Antifa red triangle with Antifa written in it. Only from Trump trying to cover using Nazi symbolism.
From Montreal Holocaust Museum
Classification of Prisoners in Nazi Camps
The Nazis persecuted Jews and other groups whom they considered to be against the regime or not belonging to the “Aryan raceâ€. Each group of prisoners was identified by a different-coloured triangle: black for the Roma and anti-socials, purple for Jehovah’s Witnesses, pink for homosexuals, green for criminals, and red for political opponents. This last category included communists, persons who were active in resistance movements and individuals who openly opposed the Nazi regime.
https://museeholocauste.ca/en/objects/identification-badge-of-a-political-prisoner-nazi-camps/ (https://museeholocauste.ca/en/objects/identification-badge-of-a-political-prisoner-nazi-camps/)
The Nazis used triangles to identify the reasons why concentration camp prisoners were there.
Upon seeing the ad, last night, advocacy group Bend the Arc: Jewish Action pointed out that the Nazis used precisely the same upside-down red triangle “to mark political prisoners and people who rescued Jews.â€
“Their masks are off,†Bend the Arc tweeted.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-ad-nazi-symbol/ (https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-ad-nazi-symbol/)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/facebook-removes-trump-ads-containing-symbol-used-by-nazis/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/facebook-removes-trump-ads-containing-symbol-used-by-nazis/)
I'm a little confused here @Chosen Daughter .... trying to follow what you're saying. Are you saying that Trump used a red triangle to make offense towards the Jewish people?
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This is equally (not more) ridiculous as the triangle thing:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5q59XGWQAEBwQL.jpg)
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I'm a little confused here @Chosen Daughter .... trying to follow what you're saying. Are you saying that Trump used a red triangle to make offense towards the Jewish people?
No, it's because Trump is a crypto-Nazi.
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No, it's because Trump is a crypto-Nazi.
What?
Well this changes everything.
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I'm a little confused here @Chosen Daughter .... trying to follow what you're saying. Are you saying that Trump used a red triangle to make offense towards the Jewish people?
You can be confused but I am not. He used a symbol that the Nazi's used for political prisoners in Nazi camps. For people who rescued Jews, communists, anarchist and any political dissidents. I don't know how much clearer it could be.
Not only did he use it. He used it to have people sign a petition. The very large upside down triangle underneath with no explanation of what it meant. It is not Antifa symbolism.
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You can be confused but I am not. He used a symbol that the Nazi's used for political prisoners in Nazi camps. For people who rescued Jews, communists, anarchist and any political dissidents. I don't know how much clearer it could be.
Not only did he use it. He used it to have people sign a petition. The very large upside down triangle underneath with no explanation of what it meant. It is not Antifa symbolism.
You are NUTS! 22222frying pan
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You can be confused but I am not. He used a symbol that the Nazi's used for political prisoners in Nazi camps. For people who rescued Jews, communists, anarchist and any political dissidents. I don't know how much clearer it could be.
Not only did he use it. He used it to have people sign a petition. The very large upside down triangle underneath with no explanation of what it meant. It is not Antifa symbolism.
I'm not a Facebook user, nor would I be. It's one of the most liberal entities besides Google that there is. Facebook is nothing more than a liberal rumor mill and has always reminded me of the mindset of people stuck at the middle school level.
Understand, that Facebook and Google dominate and both have the ability to control this election.
I understand that you are anti-Trump and if you want to believe every anti-Trump sentiment out there, more power to you.
Why would Trump want to alienate the Jewish people??? --- Keep in mind that his son-in-law is Jewish and his daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism.
I'm obviously missing what you're trying to explain??? (Not baiting you ... just trying to understand here).
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I have not see the ad that has everyone's brain's falling out of their heads and since zuckerpuke is stating this as fact, then it must be a load of BS... so I am ignoring it as fake..
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I have not see the ad that has everyone's brain's falling out of their heads and since zuckerpuke is stating this as fact, then it must be a load of BS... so I am ignoring it as fake..
That's pretty much my consensus -- if it involves Zucker and facebook ...it's bullcrap. Why would anyone buy into what one of the biggest liberals is trying to sell? Nothing but garbage. The liberal way = post it, say it, deny it, and repeat it enough times so that gullible people believe it.
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I'm not a Facebook user, nor would I be. It's one of the most liberal entities besides Google that there is. Facebook is nothing more than a liberal rumor mill and has always reminded me of the mindset of people stuck at the middle school level.
Understand, that Facebook and Google dominate and both have the ability to control this election.
I understand that you are anti-Trump and if you want to believe every anti-Trump sentiment out there, more power to you.
Why would Trump want to alienate the Jewish people??? --- Keep in mind that his son-in-law is Jewish and his daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism.
I'm obviously missing what you're trying to explain??? (Not baiting you ... just trying to understand here).
Has nothing to do with facebook. I don't have an account either. Its your president that uses social media take it up with him.
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You are NUTS! 22222frying pan
Certifiably and officially so. Now... if we can just get her back in her jacket and cell.....
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Has nothing to do with facebook. I don't have an account either. Its your president that uses social media take it up with him.
So, let me understand...
You are using statements about a purported ad supposedly banned on a platform you do not use, and thus have never seen the ad, as a weapon to slam the President?
Ok,.... take a break...
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Has nothing to do with facebook. I don't have an account either. Its your president that uses social media take it up with him.
Enough of your crap @Chosen Daughter I was only trying to understand you and you turn around and give me a smart azz half-baked answer. What exactly is your darn problem??
Has nothing to do with Facebook?? Really??? Are they not the entity that decided to take down the ads? Which is the subject of this thread??
You know what, don't even bother answering.
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You know what, don't even bother answering.
Now yer talkin’.
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Enough of your crap @Chosen Daughter I was only trying to understand you and you turn around and give me a smart azz half-baked answer. What exactly is your darn problem??
Has nothing to do with Facebook?? Really??? Are they not the entity that decided to take down the ads? Which is the subject of this thread??
You know what, don't even bother answering.
Every comment towards me on this place is a smart azz half-baked answer. Including yours. Like not trying to bait me. The information was clear.
And of course I am going to bother. Because you made Trump posting a Nazi symbol a Facebook problem because they are liberal. My answer is totally appropriate. It Trump doesn't like liberal media removing his Nazi symbols he shouldn't use it.
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A point was reached when the owner and mods, very explicitly stated the END for calling Trump and Trump supporters, by Nazi references.
Has that rule been relaxed, forgotten, or just one member given special status?
@Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak @Chosen Daughter @Mod1 @Mod2
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A point was reached when the owner and mods, very explicitly stated the END for calling Trump and Trump supporters, by Nazi references.
Has that rule been relaxed, forgotten, or just one member given special status?
@Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak @Chosen Daughter @Mod1 @Mod2
Did I call him or anyone a Nazi on this thread? No. I said he used a Nazi symbol and that is true.
I even posted information from the Montreal Holocaust website. I don't think they placed the information there just to get Trump.
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There’s conspiracy theories and then there are conspiracy theories, but this one missed its connecting flight to sanity and lost its luggage.
Someone should write a book on Trump conspiracies. A coffee table joke book. Be a barrels of laughs at a party.
Best line in this whole thread!! 888high58888 :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
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Best line in this whole thread!! 888high58888 :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
Rest my case. About as smart azz as it gets. 888high58888 888high58888
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A point was reached when the owner and mods, very explicitly stated the END for calling Trump and Trump supporters, by Nazi references.
Has that rule been relaxed, forgotten, or just one member given special status?
@Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak @Chosen Daughter @Mod1 @Mod2
There is no special status.
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Geometric shapes can be racist? Why didn't Euclid warn us?!!! *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
Well he is an old white guy. so... :whistle:
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There is no special status.
The idiots know how to skirt the line by merely "implying" something vs. stating it outright. Implying that Trump is a Nazi is absurd enough, without the parsing and dancing around what was meant. We know exactly what their implication is/was. A question we on the right ask almost daily now.....
"how stupid do they ""think"" we are"?
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The idiots know how to skirt the line by merely "implying" something vs. stating it outright. Implying that Trump is a Nazi is absurd enough, without the parsing and dancing around what was meant. We know exactly what their implication is/was. A question we on the right ask almost daily now.....
"how stupid do they ""think"" we are"?
If you use Nazi symbols to petition people I think that it would be expected. If you don't want people to question don't do it.
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If you use Nazi symbols to petition people I think that it would be expected. If you don't want people to question don't do it.
By all means.... do carry on and you do you. You're providing lots and lots of chuckles and entertainment tonite. :2popcorn:
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If you use Nazi symbols to petition people I think that it would be expected. If you don't want people to question don't do it.
Besides, he should know lunatics that blame him for every rainy day will find out, and then the jig is up.
...oh wait.....
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By all means.... do carry on and you do you. You're providing lots and lots of chuckles and entertainment tonite. :2popcorn:
Move over. :2popcorn:
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Move over. :2popcorn:
Never a dull around here, eh?
And....only 14 more hours to go till rally time. I'd like to get a hat/t-shirt made that says "Make Trump President Again". You think that would make a few leftie heads explode? lololol
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So, let me understand...
You are using statements about a purported ad supposedly banned on a platform you do not use, and thus have never seen the ad, as a weapon to slam the President?
Ok,.... take a break...
Trump is not denying they used it. They said it was a Antifa symbol. That is why they posted a yuuuuuuge one. Furthermore it appears it is one day after DOJ suggested Facebook would be responsible for what is posted.
FOX NEWS excerpt:
Facebook’s actions against the Trump campaign’s ad occurred just one day after the Justice Department sent lawmakers on Capitol Hill a proposal to pass legislation that would hold Facebook, Twitter and other tech behemoths accountable for what is posted on their platforms – a move that if passed would roll back protections Silicon Valley has had for decades.
The Justice Department’s proposals, unveiled Wednesday afternoon, want online platforms to better police their sites for illicit and harmful material, and to take a more objective approach in deciding what content they deem objectionable and decide to take down. The DOJ, in a news release, said it was calling for lawmakers to "update the outdated immunity for online platforms" under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/facebook-removes-trump-campaign-ad-about-far-left-groups-says-it-shows-hate-groups-symbol (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/facebook-removes-trump-campaign-ad-about-far-left-groups-says-it-shows-hate-groups-symbol)
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If you use Nazi symbols to petition people I think that it would be expected. If you don't want people to question don't do it.
Sorta doubt Trump is designing videos in his spare time.... figure if he wanted to be cutting edge as a new Nazi (as the left falsely labels him) he would design his own unique emblem instead of recirculating an upside down colored triangle that most common folks (myself included) don't associate with anything.
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If you use Nazi symbols to petition people I think that it would be expected. If you don't want people to question don't do it.
Does the door to your room lock from the outside @Chosen Daughter ??
Asking for a friend.
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You can be confused but I am not. He used a symbol that the Nazi's used for political prisoners in Nazi camps. For people who rescued Jews, communists, anarchist and any political dissidents. I don't know how much clearer it could be.
Not only did he use it. He used it to have people sign a petition. The very large upside down triangle underneath with no explanation of what it meant. It is not Antifa symbolism.
@Chosen Daughter
Colored triangles are now Nazi symbols? You really believe that absurdity?
Trump chose to use a red triangle to express solidarity with Nazis? Also absurd.
I think you're smarter than that. I suggest you admit that you swallowed ludicrous Troll Bait, take a day off to cool off, and move on to the next Gotcha-Trump:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBdVkJ9L-k&t=10s#)
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@Chosen Daughter
Colored triangles are now Nazi symbols? You really believe that absurdity?
Trump chose to use a red triangle to express solidarity with Nazis? Also absurd.
I think you're smarter than that. I suggest you admit that you swallowed ludicrous Troll Bait, take a day off to cool off, and move on to the next Gotcha-Trump:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBdVkJ9L-k&t=10s#)
Well I wouldn't say that I am a genius for recognizing that there was some meaning to a yuuuuuge red triangle under trump team advocacy for petitioning. I don't know if I have good enough blood lines to figure out that it wasn't an emoji. That it wasn't the symbol that Antifa uses. Or to question if it had been why they would put it under the petition message without designating why. I don't think I need great blood lines to figure out that it would be very odd for the presidents campaign team to put a "shape" at the bottom for no reason at all. A big one too.
Trump Hails “Good Bloodlines†of Henry Ford, Whose Anti-Semitism Inspired Hitler
Donald Trump’s campaign to change the subject from the coronavirus pandemic took a bizarre turn on Thursday, as the president paused during a speech at a Ford Motor Company plant in Michigan to praise the “good bloodlines†of the family descended from the firm’s founder, Henry Ford, a notorious anti-Semite and favorite of Adolf Hitler.
In an apparent ad-lib, Trump looked up from his prepared remarks — which praised the firm for teaming up with General Electric to produce ventilators and face shields for medical workers — to observe that Henry Ford’s descendants, like the current chairman, Bill Ford, who had introduced the president, have “good blood.â€
The Hill
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@thehill
President Trump: "The company founded by a man named Henry Ford -- good bloodlines, good bloodlines."
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And:
Trump has made no secret of his own belief that he inherited everything from intelligence to an ability to withstand pressure through the “great genes†passed on to him by his parents and grandparents. He has also frequently compared the importance of “good bloodlines†in humans to the breeding of champion racehorses, a view that overlaps in uncomfortable ways with those of eugenicists and racists like Ford.
“I’m proud to have that German blood,†Trump once told an interviewer. “You’ve all got such good bloodlines,†Trump reportedly told British business leaders at a dinner in 2018. “You’ve all got such amazing DNA.â€
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/22/trump-hails-good-bloodlines-henry-ford-whose-anti-semitism-inspired-hitler/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/05/22/trump-hails-good-bloodlines-henry-ford-whose-anti-semitism-inspired-hitler/)
I do have German in my blood as well as Swedish, Irish and who knows what else. So perhaps I am not smart enough to fully understand why Trump posted a red triangle under a petition. But I am smart enough to figure out that it was used by the Nazi's to designate political prisoners.
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So, multiple generations of Ford family leadership of FoMoCo wasn't what Trump referred to? *****rollingeyes*****
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So, multiple generations of Ford family leadership of FoMoCo wasn't what Trump referred to? *****rollingeyes*****
(https://jelsert.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/FVA-12ct-6-Flavors-Poly-Pack.png)
Who would have guessed that Trumps German bloodline came from the same German town that the Heinzes came from. He might be a relative of John Kerry's wife!
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-ancestral-german-home-of-the-trumps (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-ancestral-german-home-of-the-trumps)
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Let's knock off the conspiracy theories, lest I have to move this to Alternate Realities.
I'll have to bring this up at the next meeting I have with the CFR.....
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:silly: Maybe some Mod should move this thread to the Alternate Realities forum. :silly:
Was Euclid a Freemason? Of the Illuminati? Opus Dei? All three, :silly: ?
I'm just waiting for the triangle blowback to hit the Amish. :pop41:
(http://hillsdalecollegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-08-at-11.34.48-PM.png)
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I'm just waiting for the triangle blowback to hit the Amish. :pop41:
(http://hillsdalecollegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-08-at-11.34.48-PM.png)
It’s a matter of time. The ancient Egyptians were big on triangles too, and where are they now?
Which reminds me - 3, 4, 5 (of the right angle triangle) adds up to 12. Divide by 2 and you get 6. June is month 6, Trump was born in June.
Coincidence?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Triangle_(family_planning) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Triangle_(family_planning))
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Red_Triangle.svg/1200px-Red_Triangle.svg.png)
There are a good number of orgs and companies that through the past couple of centuries have used red triangles as or in their logos. IMO, this thread really does belong in the Alternate Realities forum.
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I'm just waiting for the triangle blowback to hit the Amish. :pop41:
(http://hillsdalecollegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-08-at-11.34.48-PM.png)
At least a person could figure out what the sign on the buggy is for.
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@Quix You have an incoming Topic.
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It’s a matter of time. The ancient Egyptians were big on triangles too, and where are they now?
Which reminds me - 3, 4, 5 (of the right angle triangle) adds up to 12. Divide by 2 and you get 6. June is month 6, Trump was born in June.
Coincidence?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Triangle_(family_planning) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Triangle_(family_planning))
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Red_Triangle.svg/1200px-Red_Triangle.svg.png)
There are a good number of orgs and companies that through the past couple of centuries have used red triangles as or in their logos. IMO, this thread really does belong in the Alternate Realities forum.
I knew that. Is it possible that the Trump campaign was promoting birth control? Maybe population control? Margaret Sanger Eugenics to promote good blood?
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I don't know ... there's just something evil and creepy about the red triangle. *****rollingeyes*****
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At least a person could figure out what the sign on the buggy is for.
If they aren't busy reading leftist conspiracy theories on their phone while they are driving...
Besides, red triangles weren't about extolling any supposed virtues of the Nazis, so much as denigrating the wearer for the political reasons already noted. As far as Communists go, I would just as soon see them go-- elsewhere, that is, if they won't see the reason of a Republic and try to demolish my way of life. THere are plenty of other jurisdictions out there where Communism finds sympathy at the highest levels.
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If they aren't busy reading leftist conspiracy theories on their phone while they are driving...
Besides, red triangles weren't about extolling any supposed virtues of the Nazis, so much as denigrating the wearer for the political reasons already noted. As far as Communists go, I would just as soon see them go-- elsewhere, that is, if they won't see the reason of a Republic and try to demolish my way of life. THere are plenty of other jurisdictions out there where Communism finds sympathy at the highest levels.
Perhaps that's where the Antifa in that day picked it up... Kinda like Americans embracing the European derogatory term 'Yankee' and wore t as a badge of pride.
There is no doubt at all that current Antifa is a resurrection of the old... even down to emblems and symbols. Spittin image.
I don't know if I will go all the way with @Chosen Daughter on that (don't know enough), But the ties are certainly there.
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If they aren't busy reading leftist conspiracy theories on their phone while they are driving...
Besides, red triangles weren't about extolling any supposed virtues of the Nazis, so much as denigrating the wearer for the political reasons already noted. As far as Communists go, I would just as soon see them go-- elsewhere, that is, if they won't see the reason of a Republic and try to demolish my way of life. THere are plenty of other jurisdictions out there where Communism finds sympathy at the highest levels.
So the reference is acceptable being that Communist were the red designation by the Nazi party?
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One of the things I DO see in Antifa symbology is a red triangle pointing down, next to a black triangle pointing up... That's 'as above, so below' symbology with occult origins, which is why I noticed it.
Doesn't make it so, but I can see where people could put two and two together...
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So the reference is acceptable being that Communist were the red designation by the Nazi party?
We used to call communists "Reds" here, too, because the flags they adopted were red in color (USSR, China).
From the "Red Menace" to the "Red Scare" it was so, and only in recent elections has the GOP been denoted by Red, we used to be denoted by blue and the Democrats, now the Communists of the (New) Left, by red.
In the Concentration Camps, the Red triangles denoted "... political prisoners: social democrats, liberals, socialists, communists, anarchists, gentiles who assisted Jews; trade unionists; and Freemasons." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge)
Considering Antifa has its roots, even symbolism, in the anti-Nazi (Communist) street factions of Wiemar Germany, it's fair to associate the symbol with them, and likely they themselves used it as an identifying mark or symbol.
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One of the things I DO see in Antifa symbology is a red triangle pointing down, next to a black triangle pointing up... That's 'as above, so below' symbology with occult origins, which is why I noticed it.
Doesn't make it so, but I can see where people could put two and two together...
From the same source as I used in the post above:
Black triangle – people who were deemed asocial elements (asozial) and work-shy (arbeitsscheu), including the following:
Roma and Sinti (Gypsies). They wore the black triangle with a Z notation (for Zigeuner, meaning Gypsy) to the right of the triangle's point.[7] Male Romani were later assigned a brown triangle. Female Romani were still deemed asocials as they were stereotyped as petty criminals (prostitutes, kidnappers and fortune tellers).
Mentally ill and mentally disabled. Their triangles were inscribed with the word Blöd, meaning stupid.[8]
Alcoholics and drug addicts.
Vagrants and beggars.
Pacifists and conscription resisters.
Prostitutes.[9][10]
Lesbians.[11]
The Nazis would combine symbols by overlaying one with the other inverted, so it is possible that both together would denote an antisocial communist, for example.
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From the same source as I used in the post above:
The Nazis would combine symbols by overlaying one with the other inverted, so it is possible that both together would denote an antisocial communist, for example.
HA! Ain't that something!
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HA! Ain't that something!
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:beer: Yeah. How 'bout that?
BTW, I looked up some of those symbols, and even got a post yanked from book face for posting a link to refute some antifa type's assertion there was no organized N-word (not the long one) group. I posted the link to their party webpage.
In a subsequent post, I pointed out that the previous post had been yanked, and that I had not posted the link to endorse nor support the group, but to show, they, indeed, existed. I then commented it shouldn't be too hard to find for someone so smart as they were, and noted apparently only communist links were to be tolerated.
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Topic moved to Alternate Realities. Conspiracy theory.
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:beer: Yeah. How 'bout that?
BTW, I looked up some of those symbols, and even got a post yanked from book face for posting a link to refute some antifa type's assertion there was no organized N-word (not the long one) group. I posted the link to their party webpage.
In a subsequent post, I pointed out that the previous post had been yanked, and that I had not posted the link to endorse nor support the group, but to show, they, indeed, existed. I then commented it shouldn't be too hard to find for someone so smart as they were, and noted apparently only communist links were to be tolerated.
:amen:
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Perhaps that's where the Antifa in that day picked it up... Kinda like Americans embracing the European derogatory term 'Yankee' and wore t as a badge of pride.
There is no doubt at all that current Antifa is a resurrection of the old... even down to emblems and symbols. Spittin image.
I don't know if I will go all the way with @Chosen Daughter on that (don't know enough), But the ties are certainly there.
888high58888 I wouldn't expect you to. I in no way support Antifa but Trump should clarify why he used the symbol. It is not a symbol of the Antifa. He didn't just put a huge inverted triangle because he likes shapes.
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:beer: Yeah. How 'bout that?
BTW, I looked up some of those symbols, and even got a post yanked from book face for posting a link to refute some antifa type's assertion there was no organized N-word (not the long one) group. I posted the link to their party webpage.
In a subsequent post, I pointed out that the previous post had been yanked, and that I had not posted the link to endorse nor support the group, but to show, they, indeed, existed. I then commented it shouldn't be too hard to find for someone so smart as they were, and noted apparently only communist links were to be tolerated.
It amazes me how they're just doing it all over again.. I mean dusting off the exact same play books, to include barely changed symbology, and nobody knows it.
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I in no way support Antifa
Well of course you don't.
but Trump should clarify why he used the symbol. It is not a symbol of the Antifa. He didn't just put a huge inverted triangle because he likes shapes.
I don't care about the Tump angle, but yes, a red down-arrow is a symbol of Antifa, often paired with a black up-arrow.. Often stylized as flags. As I said, I noticed from the 'as above so below' angle. SO YES, I have seen that much with my own eyes.
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It amazes me how they're just doing it all over again.. I mean dusting off the exact same play books, to include barely changed symbology, and nobody knows it.
Since public schools have sworn off teaching actual history it has been up to Hollywood to educate Americans on what the Nazis were. As a consequence all we know about them amounts to an amalgamation of Hogans Heroes, Schindlers List and Inglourious Basterds.
It wouldn't do to have the similarities between the early National Socialists, Communists and American left too well vetted.
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One of the things I DO see in Antifa symbology is a red triangle pointing down, next to a black triangle pointing up... That's 'as above, so below' symbology with occult origins, which is why I noticed it.
Doesn't make it so, but I can see where people could put two and two together...
I haven't found that. Could you give a link?
This is what Snopes says
snopes states:
The ADL disputed that the red triangle was commonly used as an antifa symbol.
It's certainly not a commonly used antifa symbol (a time-restricted google search - for before the Trump scandal - returns almost no results.) and thus not an obvious choice for an attack ad on antifa - like the red and black flag or three arrows would be.
There are some occasional antifacist groups (when using a broad definition of antifa) which do use the symbol, such as the Union of Persecutees of the Nazi Regime*, but it is always a reference to the Nazi symbol which was used to mark political prisoners and because of that is a poor choice for usage in an attack ad.
I did see an Antifa symbol with an A in the middle of a circle. The top of the A was red and the bottom was black. It was a red and black flag. But the A wasn't inverted so the Triangle wasn't either.
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Since public schools have sworn off teaching actual history it has been up to Hollywood to educate Americans on what the Nazis were. As a consequence all we know about them amounts to an amalgamation of Hogans Heroes, Schindlers List and Inglourious Basterds.
It wouldn't do to have the similarities between the early National Socialists, Communists and American left too well vetted.
That's very probably right... But informs the old adage: "Them that don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
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I haven't found that. Could you give a link?
This is what Snopes says
snopes states:
The ADL disputed that the red triangle was commonly used as an antifa symbol.
It's certainly not a commonly used antifa symbol (a time-restricted google search - for before the Trump scandal - returns almost no results.) and thus not an obvious choice for an attack ad on antifa - like the red and black flag or three arrows would be.
There are some occasional antifacist groups (when using a broad definition of antifa) which do use the symbol, such as the Union of Persecutees of the Nazi Regime*, but it is always a reference to the Nazi symbol which was used to mark political prisoners and because of that is a poor choice for usage in an attack ad.
I did see an Antifa symbol with an A in the middle of a circle. The top of the A was red and the bottom was black. It was a red and black flag. But the A wasn't inverted so the Triangle wasn't either.
Snopes? Really? I went round and round with them about 10 years ago. Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team. The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls. They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.
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I haven't found that. Could you give a link?
Nope... Seen it in passing with passing interest.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=Awr9ImTFk.5e0CIA2g5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0NjZjZzZhBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=antifa+symbols&fr2=piv-web&fr=opensearch#id=4&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FI6P4Q.jpg&action=close
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Snopes? Really? I went round and round with them about 10 years ago. Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team. The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls. They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.
Husband and wife and as committed to progressivism to the exclusion of the truth as a husband and wife can be.
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Husband and wife and as committed to progressivism to the exclusion of the truth as a husband and wife can be.
888high58888
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Snopes? Really? I went round and round with them about 10 years ago. Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team. The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls. They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.
Snopes! LOLOLOL!!! LMFAO!
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Nope... Seen it in passing with passing interest.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=Awr9ImTFk.5e0CIA2g5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0NjZjZzZhBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=antifa+symbols&fr2=piv-web&fr=opensearch#id=4&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FI6P4Q.jpg&action=close
It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good. Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.
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It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good. Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.
Funny that... Because I agree with Chosen far more than I don't, sooo... :shrug: :whistle:
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Funny that... Because I agree with Chosen far more than I don't, sooo... :shrug: :whistle:
I did too...until I had to move this thread to Alternate Realities. The conspiracy theories are where I get off the bus.
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It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good. Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.
Doesn't really matter anyway because Trump lives on this kind of discussion. He loves it. You should appreciate me more because Trump posts crap like this so someone like me will come along and bring attention to him.
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Doesn't really matter anyway because Trump lives on this kind of discussion. He loves it. You should appreciate me more because Trump posts crap like this so someone like me will come along and bring attention to him.
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that must be why I moved the thread.
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Nope... Seen it in passing with passing interest.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=Awr9ImTFk.5e0CIA2g5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0NjZjZzZhBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=antifa+symbols&fr2=piv-web&fr=opensearch#id=4&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FI6P4Q.jpg&action=close
I saw something like that in your link. A red up arrow and a black down arrow. It said anarcho Communism.
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that must be why I moved the thread.
Yeah, why did you?
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Yeah, why did you?
Guess.
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I saw something like that in your link. A red up arrow and a black down arrow. It said anarcho Communism.
... which lends itself to the symbology @Smokin Joe quoted upthread from the Nazis.
And Antifa likely IS anarcho-communist, albeit a self-canceling term... Creating chaos and destruction so that the phoenix of pure communism can rise from the ashes... That is so occult and satanic that it may as well be Luciferian doctrine.
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... which lends itself to the symbology @Smokin Joe quoted upthread from the Nazis.
And Antifa likely IS anarcho-communist, albeit a self-canceling term... Creating chaos and destruction so that the phoenix of pure communism can rise from the ashes... That is so occult and satanic that it may as well be Luciferian doctrine.
No doubt they are. I am sure they are anarchist and communist, but still that wasn't the symbol posted by Trump. I just wanted someone to say what the purpose of putting that upside down triangle there. No explanation written. Nothing indicating it was Antifa, and even if it had been why would they advertise for Antifa?
I would have never assumed that the triangle was something saying Antifa. It wasn't needed for a petition. Perhaps I think differently than many, but it doesn't make any sense at all. And the emoty and Antifa cover up is like saying my dog ate my homework. Its a child like coverup.
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No doubt they are. I am sure they are anarchist and communist, but still that wasn't the symbol posted by Trump. I just wanted someone to say what the purpose of putting that upside down triangle there. No explanation written. Nothing indicating it was Antifa, and even if it had been why would they advertise for Antifa?
I would have never assumed that the triangle was something saying Antifa. It wasn't needed for a petition. Perhaps I think differently than many, but it doesn't make any sense at all. And the emoty and Antifa cover up is like saying my dog ate my homework. Its a child like coverup.
Do you have any idea that your raising such questions only benefits Trump? Just like O'Bastard made book for years on the Birther conspiracies (that were true). O'Bastard was strengthened by the Birthers, not weakened. So will be Trump.
Just watch.
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Do you have any idea that your raising such questions only benefits Trump? Just like O'Bastard made book for years on the Birther conspiracies (that were true). O'Bastard was strengthened by the Birthers, not weakened. So will be Trump.
Just watch.
Isn't that what I said earlier? But you moved it here. Jokes on you.
Trump is evil and every evil thing he does benefits him.
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Isn't that what I said earlier? But you moved it here. Jokes on you.
Not a problem. It's all good. :hattip:
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Not a problem. It's all good. :hattip:
No problem with me either. I guess you put me in my place. In the alternate reality. I live there, and wouldn't want it any other way.
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No problem with me either. I guess you put me in my place. In the alternate reality. I live there, and wouldn't want it any other way.
It's a good Category. @Quix is the Moderator, and one of my best friends!
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I went looking on YouTube and in the first BLM/Antifa protest I saw there is a flag with two red triangles painted on a flag they are holding in the background of this interview back in Dec 2019
https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8
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I went looking on YouTube and in the first BLM/Antifa protest I saw there is a flag with two red triangles painted on a flag they are holding in the background of this interview back in Dec 2019
https://youtu.be/HgEUbSzOTZ8
I didn't see a flag. :shrug:
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I didn't see a flag. :shrug:
Me, neither, but the "We are trained Marxists. We are super versed on ideological theories." Comment by a co-founder of BLM is enlightening.
Of course, all those theories work just fine, in theory...
In practice, over 100,000,000 dead.
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Me, neither, but the "We are trained Marxists. We are super versed on ideological theories." Comment by a co-founder of BLM is enlightening.
Of course, all those theories work just fine, in theory...
In practice, over 100,000,000 dead.
And unless Trump gives a believable explanation for the triangle I can only conclude that he posted a Nazi triangle for political prisoners. Nothing else makes sense. It is not a emoji. It isn't Antifa, but if it was I would wonder why they advertise the symbol. But it wasn't. Didn't say Antifa. Wasn't similar to anything they wear or wave with the exception of a shape. And millions of people died under Hitler.
He should explain. Something that we can believe.
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And unless Trump gives a believable explanation for the triangle I can only conclude that he posted a Nazi triangle for political prisoners. Nothing else makes sense. It is not a emoji. It isn't Antifa, but if it was I would wonder why they advertise the symbol. But it wasn't. Didn't say Antifa. Wasn't similar to anything they wear or wave with the exception of a shape. And millions of people died under Hitler.
He should explain. Something that we can believe.
As I noted, Communists figured prominently in the 'red triangle' bunch.
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THANKS THANKS
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As I noted, Communists figured prominently in the 'red triangle' bunch.
Of course it did and that is how Hitler designated Communists in the camps.
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As I noted, Communists figured prominently in the 'red triangle' bunch.
I understand the history.
I just don't happen to expect--given the intense 24/7/365 hostile attacks; the super complexity of intense problems etc. he has to deal with--I don't happen to expect him to be on top of every minor detail out of the 100's of THOUSANDS of data points on his plate.
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I understand the history.
I just don't happen to expect--given the intense 24/7/365 hostile attacks; the super complexity of intense problems etc. he has to deal with--I don't happen to expect him to be on top of every minor detail out of the 100's of THOUSANDS of data points on his plate.
I don't either. It's a lot to keep track of. Maybe the Protocol people can keep up.
(Hang the fact that Antifa and BLM have some heavy Marxist roots and might have claimed the symbol for their own.)
Here's the rub. If we ban every symbol that anyone ever used for nefarious purposes, we're going to run out of stuff we can use for symbols, and the number of unintended messages sent will be off the charts. Already just being a statue of a white guy gets you sometimes a century of pigeon droppings and pulled off the plinth, even if you were an emancipator. All the faster if you happened to beon a statue of a horse.
Who knew, for instance, that the 'OK' hand gesture, (one used since, well. before I can remember, seen in movies to indicate someone or something was, well, 'OK'), is suddenly a "white supremacy gesture" and since when?
Who said it was? Why do they get to hijack it?
How did we get from God said, “This is the sign of the covenant which I am making between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all successive generations; I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth. It shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow will be seen in the cloud,read more.
and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.†And God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth.â€
Genesis 9:12-17Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Rainbows
(https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Rainbows)
To being a symbol for something He said was abomination?
Is the back of the hand middle digit extended "You're number one with me" gesture suddenly something else, or can I still be offensive with that when I am offended?
Maybe we should stick with a few well-understood gestures so there is no question of when we intend to offend someone instead of the latest (anti-)social media rumour. Sometimes, tried and true, traditional, gestures just work to get a point across.
Already, wearing the 'wrong' color shirt or bandana can get you killed in parts of towns I just don't go to.
At some point, it is inevitable that the perpetually offended will find something to be offended about, even if they have to make it up. Anticipating every thing that might offend anyone is an impossible task anyway. Maybe they should just put their big girl panties on and handle it.
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I've noticed since a very young age, that offense is in the eye of the beholder. A corollary to that is if somebody carries an irrational hatred of another individual, then every symbol, phrase, action, attire, choice of movies or automobile and word will be twisted into something terrible.
This is about where some folks are today in their blind, unreasoning hatred. Whether it's tearing down a man or a statue, it's disgraceful. And doesn't stay entertaining for very long. Most of us have the good sense to separate ourselves from such negative people.
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I've noticed since a very young age, that offense is in the eye of the beholder. A corollary to that is if somebody carries an irrational hatred of another individual, then every symbol, phrase, action, attire, choice of movies or automobile and word will be twisted into something terrible.
This is about where some folks are today in their blind, unreasoning hatred. Whether it's tearing down a man or a statue, it's disgraceful. And doesn't stay entertaining for very long. Most of us have the good sense to separate ourselves from such negative people.
Amen and amen.
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I've noticed since a very young age, that offense is in the eye of the beholder. A corollary to that is if somebody carries an irrational hatred of another individual, then every symbol, phrase, action, attire, choice of movies or automobile and word will be twisted into something terrible.
This is about where some folks are today in their blind, unreasoning hatred. Whether it's tearing down a man or a statue, it's disgraceful. And doesn't stay entertaining for very long. Most of us have the good sense to separate ourselves from such negative people.
The hate mongers will always find something (else) to target and use against those they hate...
because they are always looking for something (else).