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Title: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: mystery-ak on June 23, 2020, 02:21:35 pm
Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
by Haley Victory Smith, Breaking News Reporter
 | June 22, 2020 07:40 PM


Cases of the coronavirus are on the rise in Texas, which has Gov. Greg Abbott worried.

"To state the obvious, COVID-19 is now spreading at an unacceptable rate in Texas, and it must be corralled," the governor said in a press conference Monday.

The state has experienced more than 25,000 new coronavirus cases in the last week. On Friday, the state racked up just over 4,600 new cases in one day, making it the worst day for new cases in the state since the start of the pandemic.

The governor has not announced that new restrictions will be taken in the state but encouraged residents to not relax on precautionary measures such as hand washing, mask-wearing, and social distancing.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-governor-warns-coronavirus-is-now-spreading-at-an-unacceptable-rate-in-state (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-governor-warns-coronavirus-is-now-spreading-at-an-unacceptable-rate-in-state)
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: catfish1957 on June 23, 2020, 02:26:04 pm
My last two grocery pickups at Wally-World showed that almost no people were wearing masks, except employees.

And this number included many who were elderly and looked like they weren't in the best of health. 

Let's not shut down the state, but OTOH, show a little common sense too.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:34:37 pm
It ain't rocket science.  Those most at risk should stay home, wear a mask when out of the home, and family members should take precautions not to infect the elderly.   Other than that, it's not as lethal as they pretended it was, and the number of new cases does NOT equal the number of deaths. 

Again, the economic shutdown will cost more lives than this stupid virus.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: skeeter on June 23, 2020, 02:37:23 pm
It ain't rocket science.  Those most at risk should stay home, wear a mask when out of the home, and family members should take precautions not to infect the elderly.   Other than that, it's not as lethal as they pretended it was, and the number of new cases does NOT equal the number of deaths. 

Again, the economic shutdown will cost more lives than this stupid virus.

The 'vid will be back over & over until enough people have antibodies anyway. Lets get er over with.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: XenaLee on June 23, 2020, 02:42:05 pm
The 'vid will be back over & over until enough people have antibodies anyway. Lets get er over with.

I still don't know anyone that has it or has had it.... .and I don't know anyone that knows anyone that has had it.   And one friend's son works at Walmart in Houston... so you'd think that wouldn't be the case.  It doesn't add up.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Victoria33 on June 23, 2020, 02:47:15 pm
@mystery-ak
@Cyber Liberty

Yes, and Dallas, 30 miles from us, is exploding with more cases.
Our church is letting some people in the church if they wear a mask, but they say anyone 60 or older, should not come to church.  We can watch the Sunday morning service on Facebook and it stays there until the next service.  I don't know when I will be able to actually go inside the church.  The church is in Grapevine, Tarrant County, which blends with Dallas.  Dallas/Tarrant County is continuous city and with the numbers going up, the church may have to shut down as it has before.  They follow the Tarrant county suggestions/rules as to crowd size.  At my age, I can't risk going places even with a mask.  I speak to my children in England twice a week, and they are telling me to stay home so they don't have to worry about me.

When will this be over?  Never?
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2020, 02:50:49 pm
@mystery-ak
@Cyber Liberty

Yes, and Dallas, 30 miles from us, is exploding with more cases.
Our church is letting some people in the church if they wear a mask, but they say anyone 60 or older, should not come to church.  We can watch the Sunday morning service on Facebook and it stays there until the next service.  I don't know when I will be able to actually go inside the church.  The church is in Grapevine, Tarrant County, which blends with Dallas.  Dallas/Tarrant County is continuous city and with the numbers going up, the church may have to shut down as it has before.  They follow the Tarrant county suggestions/rules as to crowd size.  At my age, I can't risk going places even with a mask.  I speak to my children in England twice a week, and they are telling me to stay home so they don't have to worry about me.

When will this be over?  Never?

It should have been over when people realized we've been had with the fear-mongering.  That moment came when Governors declared rioting is an essential activity, while worshiping in a Church or getting a haircut are things to be ground out like a used cigarette butt.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 23, 2020, 07:31:28 pm
They haven't put it on the State official Covid site, but Gov. Abbott said we have 5,000 cases today, an all-time single day high.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 23, 2020, 07:37:10 pm
I still don't know anyone that has it or has had it.... .and I don't know anyone that knows anyone that has had it.   And one friend's son works at Walmart in Houston... so you'd think that wouldn't be the case.  It doesn't add up.    :shrug:

I hadn't yet either, until...........

A co-worker's girlfriend was tested Friday.
We are supposed to find out the results some time today.

If the girlfriend comes back as positive................

Well, this could get interesting real fast.
We are in a 6,000 sq. ft. machine shop with about 15 employees.
Missing one of them for a few weeks who was called up on guard duty, but he is at some classified location.
We think either Seattle or Atlanta, but we don't really  know.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 23, 2020, 08:16:29 pm
We just heard the word on the COVID test results of the co-worker's girlfriend.
Negative test.

All Clear...
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2020, 09:06:05 pm
We just heard the word on the COVID test results of the co-worker's girlfriend.
Negative test.

All Clear...

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: austingirl on June 23, 2020, 10:25:19 pm
They haven't put it on the State official Covid site, but Gov. Abbott said we have 5,000 cases today, an all-time single day high.

There were over 5000 positive tests. The CDC issued a special waiver to allow PCR tests to be used for wuhan tests. PCR was never meant to diagnose disease and does not test for the virus but for a snippet of RNA thought to be from the virus. Amplify the sample enough times, and they do, you get a positive result.

They shouldn't call positive tests "cases." Most of those who tested positive (from a flawed testing model) aren't ill, are not hospitalized, and are not going to die. An increase of positive tests was bound to happen when people who depressed their immune system by staying at home and obsessively disinfecting everything inside ventured out. Those who wear masks and decrease their intake of O2 and rebreathe CO2 and their own flora also depress their immune system. They too be will more susceptible to infection.

The virus cannot be stopped by ineffective masks and voodoo magic six feet social distance and cannot be spread by asymptomatic people.

We know who the vulnerable are. 99.7% survive what is just another respiratory virus.

There won't be a vaccine because there has never been a successful vaccine for a retrovirus. Look at Fauci's failure to make an HIV vaccine for that retrovirus. All of the vaccines in development are cutting corners on the clinical trials and using techniques that have never been used before. Most of these companies have never brought a single product to market. Think about that.

This virus will attenuate. What we are witnessing with the increase in testing numbers is herd immunity that was delayed by the lockdowns.

Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2020, 11:09:56 pm
There were over 5000 positive tests. The CDC issued a special waiver to allow PCR tests to be used for wuhan tests. PCR was never meant to diagnose disease and does not test for the virus but for a snippet of RNA thought to be from the virus. Amplify the sample enough times, and they do, you get a positive result.

They shouldn't call positive tests "cases." Most of those who tested positive (from a flawed testing model) aren't ill, are not hospitalized, and are not going to die. An increase of positive tests was bound to happen when people who depressed their immune system by staying at home and obsessively disinfecting everything inside ventured out. Those who wear masks and decrease their intake of O2 and rebreathe CO2 and their own flora also depress their immune system. They too be will more susceptible to infection.

The virus cannot be stopped by ineffective masks and voodoo magic six feet social distance and cannot be spread by asymptomatic people.

We know who the vulnerable are. 99.7% survive what is just another respiratory virus.

There won't be a vaccine because there has never been a successful vaccine for a retrovirus. Look at Fauci's failure to make an HIV vaccine for that retrovirus. All of the vaccines in development are cutting corners on the clinical trials and using techniques that have never been used before. Most of these companies have never brought a single product to market. Think about that.

This virus will attenuate. What we are witnessing with the increase in testing numbers is herd immunity that was delayed by the lockdowns.

The problem I have is they are lying about new cases.  CDC has decided to inflate the positive test results by mixing the infection tests with the antibody tests, so a slew of people are being added as testing positive in the daily hysterics who never had it.

Because of this glaring distortion of the stats I simply cannot believe them at all.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: austingirl on June 24, 2020, 03:40:26 am
The problem I have is they are lying about new cases.  CDC has decided to inflate the positive test results by mixing the infection tests with the antibody tests, so a slew of people are being added as testing positive in the daily hysterics who never had it.

Because of this glaring distortion of the stats I simply cannot believe them at all.
@Cyber Liberty

Some states are also counting each positive test of the same person as a new "case." The fraudulent and misleading reporting cannot be believed. Good call.

This is all about fear and control.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 24, 2020, 12:56:18 pm
There were over 5000 positive tests. The CDC issued a special waiver to allow PCR tests to be used for wuhan tests. PCR was never meant to diagnose disease and does not test for the virus but for a snippet of RNA thought to be from the virus. Amplify the sample enough times, and they do, you get a positive result.

They shouldn't call positive tests "cases." Most of those who tested positive (from a flawed testing model) aren't ill, are not hospitalized, and are not going to die. An increase of positive tests was bound to happen when people who depressed their immune system by staying at home and obsessively disinfecting everything inside ventured out. Those who wear masks and decrease their intake of O2 and rebreathe CO2 and their own flora also depress their immune system. They too be will more susceptible to infection.

The virus cannot be stopped by ineffective masks and voodoo magic six feet social distance and cannot be spread by asymptomatic people.

We know who the vulnerable are. 99.7% survive what is just another respiratory virus.

There won't be a vaccine because there has never been a successful vaccine for a retrovirus. Look at Fauci's failure to make an HIV vaccine for that retrovirus. All of the vaccines in development are cutting corners on the clinical trials and using techniques that have never been used before. Most of these companies have never brought a single product to market. Think about that.

This virus will attenuate. What we are witnessing with the increase in testing numbers is herd immunity that was delayed by the lockdowns.

True:

The rate of infection represents only 0.38% (3132) of the total population of Fort Bend County,my county where I live,  and only 1.5% (50%) of that .038% has resulted in fatality.
A recovery rate of 37% (1153) which is behind the state average.
50 people out of 811,688 residents have died, which is a very small number.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: catfish1957 on June 24, 2020, 01:28:27 pm
I still don't know anyone that has it or has had it.... .and I don't know anyone that knows anyone that has had it.   And one friend's son works at Walmart in Houston... so you'd think that wouldn't be the case.  It doesn't add up.    :shrug:

One of my son's high school educators, who happened to be younger than me, caught it and died of it in March.   Outstanding guy, and he is very missed by our small community.  So it is real, and should be a precautionary concern to anyone meeting age / pre-existing condition criteria.  But OTOH, I don't think it is pervasive enough to shut down our economy.  Again, just some common sense would go a long way.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Idiot on June 24, 2020, 01:36:28 pm
One of my son's high school educators, who happened to be younger than me, caught it and died of it in March.   Outstanding guy, and he is very missed by our small community.  So it is real, and should be a precautionary concern to anyone meeting age / pre-existing condition criteria.  But OTOH, I don't think it is pervasive enough to shut down our economy.  Again, just some common sense would go a long way.
We had a prison guard in one of our local State Prisons get the virus and was dead in 2 days.  He was in his mid 50's.  It's just soooo weird that everyone here acts like it's all passed and there is nothing to worry about.  Very few wear masks and social distancing is a joke.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Bigun on June 24, 2020, 01:38:32 pm
Does anyone else notice how effortlessly the narrative has pivoted from COVID deaths to number of cases?  Why do we allow them to keep moving the goalposts?
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: catfish1957 on June 24, 2020, 01:46:35 pm
Does anyone else notice how effortlessly the narrative has pivoted from COVID deaths to number of cases?  Why do we allow them to keep moving the goalposts?

100% of evening news, 100% of late night TV, 100% of print media, and 100% of sunday  politico TV shows are based on the premise of destroying Trump in November at all cost.   That narrartive is carefully crafted by the hour to meet that objective.

Sadly, I figure there are about 25% of the population that is either too stupid or too gullible to realize the brainwashing at hand.  I am not optimistic about Novemeber at all. 
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 24, 2020, 01:55:19 pm
Does anyone else notice how effortlessly the narrative has pivoted from COVID deaths to number of cases?  Why do we allow them to keep moving the goalposts?

The problem is we don't get a say about the location of the goalposts, and it's also because people have short to non-existent memories, so the leftists get away with it.  Look how quickly they patched up the phenomenal screw-up of encouraging riots in the middle of all this, and how quickly people got back to trying to use social pressure to slap masks on everybody. 

Even Texas is talking lockdown again!  Do you intend to do that?  It's ultimately up to you and me, and I have yet to strap on a spit mask.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: dfwgator on June 24, 2020, 01:59:02 pm
Does anyone else notice how effortlessly the narrative has pivoted from COVID deaths to number of cases?  Why do we allow them to keep moving the goalposts?

You can bet if Trump loses in November, COVID will magically "go away".  And the Democrats are pretty much trying to imply such.   If Trump wins, then expect lockdowns to continue.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: skeeter on June 24, 2020, 02:00:37 pm
You can bet if Trump loses in November, COVID will magically "go away".  And the Democrats are pretty much trying to imply such.   If Trump wins, then expect lockdowns to continue.

People instinctively resent being extorted. At least they used to.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: libertybele on June 24, 2020, 02:31:40 pm
Does anyone else notice how effortlessly the narrative has pivoted from COVID deaths to number of cases?  Why do we allow them to keep moving the goalposts?

Cases around here are skyrocketing -- however -- recoveries are not being reported.  Asymptomatic cases v. symptomatic cases are not being reported....hospitalizations are being logged, but are those people currently in the hospital or those who have been hospitalized .... so there's a lot of information out there that we're not being given.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Bigun on June 24, 2020, 02:34:16 pm
You can bet if Trump loses in November, COVID will magically "go away".  And the Democrats are pretty much trying to imply such.   If Trump wins, then expect lockdowns to continue.

Absolutely!  That has been the sole purpose of this CHICOM/Democrat/Media hoax from day one!

And BTW; as many here told you months ago the overall death rate for CV-19 is no more than that for regular seasonal flu.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Bigun on June 24, 2020, 02:35:06 pm
The problem is we don't get a say about the location of the goalposts, and it's also because people have short to non-existent memories, so the leftists get away with it.  Look how quickly they patched up the phenomenal screw-up of encouraging riots in the middle of all this, and how quickly people got back to trying to use social pressure to slap masks on everybody. 

Even Texas is talking lockdown again!  Do you intend to do that?  It's ultimately up to you and me, and I have yet to strap on a spit mask.

Nor have I and I will continue to refuse to do so.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Victoria33 on June 25, 2020, 04:01:33 am

Even Texas is talking lockdown again!  Do you intend to do that?  It's ultimately up to you and me, and I have yet to strap on a spit mask.
@Cyber Liberty

Today, in Houston, Texas, they have turned Texas Children's Hospital into beds for COVID-19 patients.  They have also taken beds in M.D. Anderson Cancer Center for COVID-19 patients.  They are out of beds in regular hospitals.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: truth_seeker on June 25, 2020, 04:32:05 am
@Cyber Liberty

Today, in Houston, Texas, they have turned Texas Children's Hospital into beds for COVID-19 patients.  They have also taken beds in M.D. Anderson Cancer Center for COVID-19 patients.  They are out of beds in regular hospitals.
My SIL is a specialized pediatric RN for premature babies.....but they have so many Covid-19 cases, they are on alert to be called in for general duties. Near the Woodlands.



Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2020, 04:44:14 am
@Cyber Liberty

Today, in Houston, Texas, they have turned Texas Children's Hospital into beds for COVID-19 patients.  They have also taken beds in M.D. Anderson Cancer Center for COVID-19 patients.  They are out of beds in regular hospitals.

There does appear to be some sort of an increase going on, in AZ too.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 25, 2020, 04:09:49 pm
Since this increase coincides with both Texas "opening up" and the utterly uncontrolled George Floyd protests, has there been any attempt to see how much of the increase coincides with cities that have had protests and cities that have not?

Or is it thought-free panic time?
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2020, 04:12:29 pm
Since this increase coincides with both Texas "opening up" and the utterly uncontrolled George Floyd protests, has there been any attempt to see how much of the increase coincides with cities that have had protests and cities that have not?

Or is it thought-free panic time?

The Rats have realized the riots blew their whole COVID panic narrative out of the water, and so they intend to repair that damage.  I don't think they can shove the toothpaste back into the tube.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: catfish1957 on June 25, 2020, 04:19:18 pm


Or is it thought-free panic time?

To me it's a face palm event of people not using common sense. 

We use grocery pickup, and i use a very deliberative elaborate disinfection process bringing in those groceries.  my wife and I am over 60, and have a few pre-existers.  OTOH, while waiting for groceries, we see the majority of people not using masks, and many of these obviously not in the best of health.  Yeah, a small percentage of people are getting sick, but why tempt fate?
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 25, 2020, 05:32:07 pm
Since this increase coincides with both Texas "opening up" and the utterly uncontrolled George Floyd protests, has there been any attempt to see how much of the increase coincides with cities that have had protests and cities that have not?

Or is it thought-free panic time?

Funny, how just 2 weeks ago, Mayor Turner of Houston said we can't blame the protesters for the spike.
Then, one week later, he urged everyone who was at the protest to get tested.

They know....

Add the increases in testing, too, along with the re-opening.

I 'll say this.
I find it hard to believe that 10 people sitting in a restaurant that usually holds 50, would spread the virus faster than 60,000 marching in close proximity at a protest.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 25, 2020, 10:19:47 pm
To me it's a face palm event of people not using common sense. 

We use grocery pickup, and i use a very deliberative elaborate disinfection process bringing in those groceries.  my wife and I am over 60, and have a few pre-existers.  OTOH, while waiting for groceries, we see the majority of people not using masks, and many of these obviously not in the best of health.  Yeah, a small percentage of people are getting sick, but why tempt fate?

I don't see this as a (hypothetical) either-or between general carelessness and the carelessness of the protesters. But since the increase is being used as a political club against TX and against re-opening generally, I think knowing the relative proportions important.

Our fam does the normal precautions outside of our home. If we're near other people or in stores we have masks on. OTOH, if we are outside with no one near, the mask gets pulled down so as to breath easier. My employer requires mask use, so I do when I'm at work (I was never full-time work-from-home).
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: EdinVA on June 25, 2020, 11:15:48 pm
This still does not make any sense to me....
It just seems that you would have to have thousands of contagious people in a crowd to infect 5 or 10 thousand people, just one or 2 would not do it.
It almost seems to be a dispersal of some kind...
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 12:41:09 am
Since this increase coincides with both Texas "opening up" and the utterly uncontrolled George Floyd protests, has there been any attempt to see how much of the increase coincides with cities that have had protests and cities that have not?

Or is it thought-free panic time?

Hmmmm, something from a person in Austin, https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/382959/ :

(https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/austinhosp-1.png)
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: skeeter on June 26, 2020, 12:45:30 am
Since this increase coincides with both Texas "opening up" and the utterly uncontrolled George Floyd protests, has there been any attempt to see how much of the increase coincides with cities that have had protests and cities that have not?

Or is it thought-free panic time?

The George Floyd deal was an event of opportunity - a quick interlude from the COVID master plan. The event is over, maximum political advantage extracted, so its back to the master plan.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 01:00:10 am
Hmmmm, something from a person in Austin, https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/382959/ :

(https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/austinhosp-600x260.png)

The text in the graphic is hopelessly unreadable. :shrug:
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 03:19:58 am
The text in the graphic is hopelessly unreadable. :shrug:

@Cyber Liberty, fixed it.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 26, 2020, 03:41:42 am
Continue to protect our most vulnerable .... but go forth and build our community immunity and weaken this virus.

At this point in the cycle what matters is the mortality rate.  And the good news is the young(er) are recovering, if they even knew they were sick at all.

Remember:  The goal was never to have 0 infections.  The goal was to manage hospitalizations. 

Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2020, 04:05:50 am
@Cyber Liberty, fixed it.

Much better!  It shows opening up didn't cause the spike they're complaining about, it was the riots in Houston and probably Dallas and SA.  Austin, because they are followers, not leaders.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 26, 2020, 01:45:36 pm
Much better!  It shows opening up didn't cause the spike they're complaining about, it was the riots in Houston and probably Dallas and SA.  Austin, because they are followers, not leaders.

That people in general being careless or acting on the belief that masks, etc. are useless are part of the increases in TX is, I think, obvious. But a pattern is emerging across multiple states that there is a correlation between "protests" and a surge in cases. Because of politicization, I think it important to try to discern between the two sources.

From Worldometer, it appears that the 5 counties with the most new case are:

Harris
Bexar
Tarrant
Dallas
Hidalgo

These are probably the most populous counties in Texas, so carelessness and disbelief are proportionally significant. But if there have also bee large "protests" in these counties ...

Of course the understanding that would come of such a discernment would be at cross purposes with the Dems' and MSM's Texas-bashing narrative. The same could be said of FL, of course.

What would really be interesting and possibly illuminating would be whether closed states like MN that have also had riots have had a surge in cases. Especially in riot cities/counties.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Bigun on June 26, 2020, 01:51:03 pm
The untold story:

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Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 26, 2020, 02:54:47 pm
I hadn't yet either, until...........

A co-worker's girlfriend was tested Friday.
We are supposed to find out the results some time today.

If the girlfriend comes back as positive................

Well, this could get interesting real fast.
We are in a 6,000 sq. ft. machine shop with about 15 employees.
Missing one of them for a few weeks who was called up on guard duty, but he is at some classified location.
We think either Seattle or Atlanta, but we don't really  know.

An update.....

I had posted that the test of the co-workers girlfriend came back negative on Yuesday.
Turned out that they re-tested the sample, and now it came back positive.
One saving grace is that this co-worker has been off since Wednesday the 16th, so we are more than 1/2 through the 14 day period.

2nd update.

My son works in our warehouse with the person whose girlfriend tested positive.
My son was tested yesterday.
Could be 3 to 5 days before he gets the results back.
Possibly 5 to 9 days, with the rush of Houston area people getting tested now.
Symptoms he has are headache, fatigue, and a sore throat, but no fever or cough.
Could be anything.
My son lives with us....
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: mountaineer on June 26, 2020, 11:00:05 pm
Kris Held,MD  @kksheld
My heart breaks for Texas. Our hospitals have empty beds. We are prepared. We are not an ant hill like New York. Let doctors be doctors. Let patients choose treatment. Let Texans be free. Politicians who outlaw certain meds and surgery are harming patients-and on what grounds.
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The problem with staying in again is that we are delaying the inevitable. Every time we stop the economy-we delay herd immunity.
If we will stay home and contain it,the minute we leave our house another spike will happen.We can’t keep doing this! There will be nothing left!
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Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: mountaineer on June 26, 2020, 11:00:54 pm
Dear Texas Patients and Physicians: Here’s one thing we can do to stop the pandemic.
Posted on June 24, 2020   

Dear Texas Physicians, especially primary care, urgent care and nursing home doctors,

When the COVID 19 pandemic hit the U.S.A., we stopped in our tracks, shut down our O.R.s, closed our clinics, and even gated our hospitals to all but urgent or emergency patients in response to Governor Abbott’s Executive Order GA-09.  At that point in time, we had very few COVID cases, hospitalizations, or deaths in Texas. We took these drastic steps to “flatten the curve.”  ...

So here we are now, 3 months later, riding the Texas surge of the COVID wave, which has been purportedly “flattened” by varying orders from each of the fifty states’ Governors. We are all familiar with the intervening crises and consequences of our actions of the past 3 months. What have we learned? Will we repeat mistakes of the past, or will we use experience to save Texas lives?  ...

Many physicians acquiesce to unquestioningly following bureaucratic algorithms, accepting guidelines as mandates, and not innovating solutions for fear of retaliation by medical boards, threat of loss of licensure, and even threat of jail time and fines. This top down fear and intimidation leaves patients without their best advocates, their physicians- ironically, amidst a pandemic, when one would think it is our nation’s physicians we need the most. ...

Please, fellow Texas physicians, consider treating your high risk COVID-19 patients using Dr. Zelenko’s protocol or a thoughtful individualized variation thereof. Do your homework on this. Consider treating symptomatic COVID patients early, within five days of the onset of their first symptoms, with safe, low dose hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and either azithromycin or doxycycline- before the viral load is huge, before the lungs are suffering the ravages of cytokine storm including microemboli, and before the patient deteriorates to a condition requiring hospitalization. At least offer your patients this option.  ...
More from Kris Held, M.D. (https://krisheldmd.wordpress.com/2020/06/24/dear-texas-patients-and-physicians-heres-one-thing-we-can-do-to-stop-the-pandemic/)
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 27, 2020, 05:42:25 pm
Abbot is morphing into a Democrat right before our eyes.

And I had such high hopes for him.

Let's vote Dan Patrick in next election.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 27, 2020, 05:44:08 pm
Continue to protect our most vulnerable .... but go forth and build our community immunity and weaken this virus.

At this point in the cycle what matters is the mortality rate.  And the good news is the young(er) are recovering, if they even knew they were sick at all.

Remember:  The goal was never to have 0 infections.  The goal was to manage hospitalizations.
Almost word for word what I wrote the governor today.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 14, 2020, 05:32:29 pm
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There won't be a vaccine because there has never been a successful vaccine for a retrovirus 1. Look at Fauci's failure to make an HIV vaccine for that retrovirus 2. All of the vaccines in development are cutting corners on the clinical trials 3 and using techniques that have never been used before. Most of these companies have never brought a single product to market 4. Think about that.
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@austingirl

1 Corona viruses are not retroviruses.

2 Whether correct or incorrect, experiences with HIV and other retroviruses are irrelevant to the possibility of developing of vaccines for Covid-19.

3 "Clinical trials" are trials done with humans. Of the three leading vaccines likely to be approved in the US, the vaccines from AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Pfizer have all completed Phase I and II clinical trials, and all three are conducting Phase III trials. Where have "corners" been "cut"?

4 You can correct me if you know better, but I'm pretty sure AstraZeneca and Pfizer have "brought products to market", many products, probably over more decades than I've been alive.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Bigun on August 14, 2020, 05:35:16 pm
Abbot is morphing into a Democrat right before our eyes.

And I had such high hopes for him.

Let's vote Dan Patrick in next election.

 :yowsa: pointing-up
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Hoodat on August 14, 2020, 05:49:54 pm
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Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state

At the current "unacceptable" rate, it will still take Texas over five years to reach 50% infection.  (Herd immunity is 60%)
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 14, 2020, 05:52:37 pm
An update.....

I had posted that the test of the co-workers girlfriend came back negative on Yuesday.
Turned out that they re-tested the sample, and now it came back positive.
One saving grace is that this co-worker has been off since Wednesday the 16th, so we are more than 1/2 through the 14 day period.

2nd update.

My son works in our warehouse with the person whose girlfriend tested positive.
My son was tested yesterday.
Could be 3 to 5 days before he gets the results back.
Possibly 5 to 9 days, with the rush of Houston area people getting tested now.
Symptoms he has are headache, fatigue, and a sore throat, but no fever or cough.
Could be anything.
My son lives with us....

I don't think I updated this a 3rd time:

My son's test came back negative in 5 days, and he has been back to work with us since the following day.

The co-worker, who is in his 20's did test positive, but was out for 3-1/2 weeks. No symptoms, but he had to wait for 3 different test results to return.
The first 2 positives, followed by a negative.
Title: Re: Texas governor warns coronavirus 'is now spreading at an unacceptable rate' in state
Post by: Hoodat on August 14, 2020, 06:03:24 pm
The co-worker, who is in his 20's did test positive, but was out for 3-1/2 weeks. No symptoms, but he had to wait for 3 different test results to return.
The first 2 positives, followed by a negative.

This is my big fear.   With a positive test, I will have to jump through hoops in order to qualify for a return to work.  Any time I am offered a test voluntarily, I refuse just for this reason.