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Breaking: ‘Complete Panic’ at Highest Levels of DNC Over Kim DotCom’s Seth Rich Announcement
Carter May 21st, 2017 9:28 pm 766 Comments
Saturday, an anonymous person who works in Washington DC, alleged on 4Chan’s /pol/ subgroup that high-ranking current and former Democratic Party officials are terrified of the Seth Rich murder investigation.
This comes after internet entrepreneur and hacker, Kim DotCom, admitted on Saturday that he was part of an operation along with Seth Rich to get stolen DNC emails to Wikileaks.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/breaking-complete-panic-set-highest-levels-dnc-seth-rich-murder-investigation/
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Kim Dotcom, they guy they went to extraordinary measures to prosecute. Even charging him with crimes that weren't against the law.
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Saturday, an anonymous person who works in Washington DC, alleged on 4Chan’s /pol/ subgroup that high-ranking current and former Democratic Party officials are terrified of the Seth Rich murder investigation.
This comes after internet entrepreneur and hacker, Kim DotCom, admitted on Saturday that he was part of an operation along with Seth Rich to get stolen DNC emails to Wikileaks.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/breaking-complete-panic-set-highest-levels-dnc-seth-rich-murder-investigation/
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I wonder if the Russia Gate Special Console office will be looking into the Seth Rich murder?
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I wonder if the Russia Gate Special Console office will be looking into the Seth Rich murder?
Since Russia Gate revolves around the 'hacked" emails I think the Special Console will be compelled into looking at just how those email got from the DNC to Wikileaks and if it really was Seth Rick then solving his murder becomes a top priority. KimDotCom getting into it is HUGE. Now that Comey is gone it might be safe to do a real investigation. My guess it that is why KimDotCom is now talking.
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Well Hannity sure has hitched his wagon to this story.
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Identical topics merged.
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My radar went up on this story when the DNC made one of their hatchet men as the spokesman for the murdered guys family. There is something wrong about that.
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Well, if nothing else a guy could have a lot of fun with this story. It wouldn't even take a particularly creative mind.
What I find striking is you have a dead body surrounded by more than just a few very odd circumstances, yet it is deemed not newsworthy according to the liberal media.
What is newsworthy, like 24/7-type newsworthy, is the Russia-Trump connection. At least give us a dead body, some hint of evidence, or even an iota of circumstantial rumor. But no, nada.
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Its for the family to decide.
Anything else is the lowest form of scumbaggery.
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Its for the family to decide.
Anything else is the lowest form of scumbaggery.
Bull, murder concerns all of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg)
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Its for the family to decide.
Anything else is the lowest form of scumbaggery.
Generally speaking, in a free society where possible political assassination is concerned the public interest trumps the wishes of the bereaved family.
It should be allowed to play itself out one way or the other.
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Bull, murder concerns all of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg)
After exposing American troops and their families to danger and getting Afghan allies killed, Julian Assange is worthy only of a sniper round.
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Generally speaking, in a free society where possible political assassination is concerned the public interest trumps the wishes of the bereaved family.
It should be allowed to play itself out one way or the other.
Maybe you should just join the Westboro baptists now.
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My radar went up on this story when the DNC made one of their hatchet men as the spokesman for the murdered guys family. There is something wrong about that.
@Frank Cannon
You bet there is! A LOT wrong with that!
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Maybe you should just join the Westboro baptists now.
Who p*ssed in your cornflakes?
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Its for the family to decide.
Really? Caylee Anthony would have loved that rule.
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Maybe you should just join the Westboro baptists now.
Time to up the meds @Cripplecreek. Murder is a big deal and allowing this to be swept under the rug isn't something a freedom loving American would support. Certainly the family can pick their own spokesman but did they? Or did the DNC show up and say we'll speak for you as we'd hate to have what happened to your son also happen to you.
Are you so blinded by hate that you'll overlook this?
@skeeter
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Time to up the meds @Cripplecreek. Murder is a big deal and allowing this to be swept under the rug isn't something a freedom loving American would support. Certainly the family can pick their own spokesman but did they? Or did the DNC show up and say we'll speak for you as we'd hate to have what happened to your son also happen to you.
Are you so blinded by hate that you'll overlook this?
@skeeter
You are nothing but lying cowards and can all go to hell. And like the coward you are you call for reinforcements
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My radar went up on this story when the DNC made one of their hatchet men as the spokesman for the murdered guys family. There is something wrong about that.
Good Point @Frank Cannon that seems to be overlooked more often than not, none of this makes sense to me and since Hannity and Newt started pushing it on FOX it became less so.
The so-called "family spokesman" for the Rich family is DNC operative Brad Bauman - a professional Democrat crisis/public relations consultant with the Pastorum Group who formerly served as Executive Director for the Congressional Progressive Caucus (2011-2014).
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You are nothing but lying cowards and can all go to hell. And like the coward you are you call for reinforcements
Now that just don't make no sense.
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My radar went up on this story when the DNC made one of their hatchet men as the spokesman for the murdered guys family. There is something wrong about that.
Family of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich sends 'cease and desist' letter to Fox News contributor
Mary Rich
May 20, 2017
Perry Stein
Washington Post (via Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-seth-rich-slaying-conspiracy-20170520-story.html)).The family of slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich is threatening legal action against a man it says has peddled politicized conspiracy theories about the murder of the 27-year-old, who was shot as he was walking home in the District of Columbia late one night last July.
A lawyer for the Rich family sent a cease and desist letter Thursday to Rod Wheeler, a private investigator and Fox News contributor who had been working on behalf of the family. ...
In the letter obtained by The Washington Post, an attorney for the Rich family warned Wheeler to immediately "cease and desist" from making any statements about Rich, the murder and the investigation.
Anyone who continues to push this fake news story after it was so thoroughly debunked is proving to the world they have a transparent political agenda or are a sociopath. — Brad Bauman, Rich family spokesman
"Your improper and unauthorized statements, many of which are false and have no basis in fact, have also injured the memory and reputation of Seth Rich and have defamed and injured the reputation of the members of the family,'" wrote the family's lawyer, Joseph Ingrisano. ...
Nothing to see here. Let's move on. Bauman's "progressive" c.v. described here. (http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/brad-bauman-seth-rich-dnc-family-democrat-pastorum-group-wikileaks/)
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You are nothing but lying cowards and can all go to hell. And like the coward you are you call for reinforcements
@Cripplecreek
Sorry dude but you are out of line. I usually agree with your posts but lately you've gone bat-feces crazy. I hope and pray you are find some center.
I am not a liar or a coward. Nor am I a "reinforcement", your comparison to webstborough baptist was out of line and nonsensical. As is this most recent post.
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@Cripplecreek
Sorry dude but you are out of line. I usually agree with your posts but lately you've gone bat-feces crazy. I hope and pray you are find some center.
I am not a liar or a coward. Nor am I a "reinforcement", your comparison to webstborough baptist was out of line and nonsensical. As is this most recent post.
Just for the record, I second this!
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I hope Kim has lots and lots of life insurance. At least his family may come through this well-fixed. Cause he's probably and most likely toast too.
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Family of slain DNC staffer Seth Rich sends 'cease and desist' letter to Fox News contributor
Mary Rich
May 20, 2017
Perry Stein
Washington Post (via Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-seth-rich-slaying-conspiracy-20170520-story.html)).
"Your improper and unauthorized statements, many of which are false and have no basis in fact, have also injured the memory and reputation of Seth Rich and have defamed and injured the reputation of the members of the family,'" wrote the family's lawyer, Joseph Ingrisano. ...Nothing to see here. Let's move on. Bauman's "progressive" c.v. described here. (http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/brad-bauman-seth-rich-dnc-family-democrat-pastorum-group-wikileaks/)
Unless they can change the mind of the family I can see this costing people like Hannity a lot of money because quite frankly this is a losing fight.
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Unless they can change the mind of the family I can see this costing people like Hannity a lot of money because quite frankly this is a losing fight.
Their feelings may be hurt, but proving damages for defamation will be quite a hurdle for the family. I don't know what Hannity has said (because I never listen to him nor watch him on TV), but I doubt he said anything truly libelous about the family - nor about the deceased. I guess we'll see. :shrug:
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My radar went up on this story when the DNC made one of their hatchet men as the spokesman for the murdered guys family. There is something wrong about that.
Yeah. It's called trying to cover your @ss. It's what they do.
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You are nothing but lying cowards and can all go to hell. And like the coward you are you call for reinforcements
I'm not a reinforcement (I was already here).... but I'll chime in... why not.
Your hangover is making you look like a rancid fool. Go back to bed and sleep it off. Maybe you'll wake up in a better mood (hope springs). ^-^
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I'm not a reinforcement (I was already here).... but I'll chime in... why not.
Your hangover is making you look like a rancid fool. Go back to bed and sleep it off. Maybe you'll wake up in a better mood (hope springs). ^-^
I haven't drank for over 15 years you ignorant pig.
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I haven't drank for over 15 years you ignorant pig.
Right there is your problem.
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Their feelings may be hurt, but proving damages for defamation will be quite a hurdle for the family. I don't know what Hannity has said (because I never listen to him nor watch him on TV), but I doubt he said anything truly libelous about the family - nor about the deceased. I guess we'll see. :shrug:
Yep! We'll see! :beer:
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I haven't drank for over 15 years you ignorant pig.
Well, you're really not very bright then. That would have been the only valid excuse you might have had for your abusive, asinine behavior here today.
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I haven't drank for over 15 years you ignorant pig.
Come on dude...we treat others with respect here. Don't act like you are at TOS. :laugh:
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Generally speaking, in a free society where possible political assassination is concerned the public interest trumps the wishes of the bereaved family.
It should be allowed to play itself out one way or the other.
As a matter of law, I believe "the people" will prosecute murder, regardless of the wishes of the "family."
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I haven't drank for over 15 years you ignorant pig.
Well there goes that excuse for acting like a total ass.
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Stop the insults..get back on topic...it was an interesting thread.
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Chill folks
Debate the topic
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Hey @Frank Cannon Pass the Popcorn and Pour me a Scotch. Neat.
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:shrug:
To me this is still birtherism level. The family has totally disowned it.
Another shiny object for Alex Jones wannabes and the forum rubes to chase.
Kim DotCom has said stuff before that have amounted to jack squat:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/01/kim_dotcom_more_emails_are_coming_hillary_clinton_is_in_serious_trouble.html
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Everyone is disliked, I know Hannity is by some but..
Hannity has a pretty good name all the same, he's pushed this, Newt Gingrich seems to have mentioned it. They are putting their names on the line and they'll really look silly if there is nothing to this. To me, Hannity would lose virtually all credibility if this story has no legs.
Some of these people might know things we don't.
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:shrug:
To me this is still birtherism level. The family has totally disowned it.
Another shiny object for Alex Jones wannabes and the forum rubes to chase.
Kim DotCom has said stuff before that have amounted to jack squat:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/01/kim_dotcom_more_emails_are_coming_hillary_clinton_is_in_serious_trouble.html
How would the family know?
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:shrug:
To me this is still birtherism level. The family has totally disowned it.
Another shiny object for Alex Jones wannabes and the forum rubes to chase.
Kim DotCom has said stuff before that have amounted to jack squat:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/01/kim_dotcom_more_emails_are_coming_hillary_clinton_is_in_serious_trouble.html
Pizzagate part two.
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How would the family know?
Sometimes families know stuff about their members that isn't publicly known.
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Pizzagate part two.
And you can say this with such certainty because...?
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You are nothing but lying cowards and can all go to hell. And like the coward you are you call for reinforcements
Ah, yes, pinging the entire coven of shrieking harpy sTrumpettes... how circa 2016 FR of them.
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And you can say this with such certainty because...?
Look in the mirror.
The great American degeneracy continues apace.
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Sometimes families know stuff about their members that isn't publicly known.
Sure sometimes. Hey Mom & Dad, I'm gonna send a bunch of emails to wikileaks. Yeah I know it could get me put in jail or maybe even killed but don't worry I know what Im doing. Oh by the way dont talk to anyone about it.
nope, I dont see it
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Has anybody been able to ascertain who actually has his Laptop, which was with him always, The family claims they have it but according to other reports the FBI does? That should show some proof of any Wikileaks collaboration.
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Sure sometimes. Hey Mom & Dad, I'm gonna send a bunch of emails to wikileaks. Yeah I know it could get me put in jail or maybe even killed but don't worry I know what Im doing. Oh by the way dont talk to anyone about it.
nope, I dont see it
So? Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Has anybody been able to ascertain who actually has his Laptop, which was with him always, The family claims they have it but according to other reports the FBI does? That should show some proof of any Wikileaks collaboration.
If Hillary operatives in the FBI have it, it has probably already been "disposed of" by now.
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Look in the mirror.
The great American degeneracy continues apace.
@Cripplecreek
How is it degenerate to think there is something more to the murder of this young man?
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Look in the mirror.
The great American degeneracy continues apace.
Not an answer to my question! AKA a diversion! Do you actually KNOW anything you are willing to share with the rest of us or are you just running off at the mouth?
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Sometimes families know stuff about their members that isn't publicly known.
Yeah, and sometimes families know less than zero because little Johnny is an angel and never would be involved in anything mildly scandalous.
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Ah, yes, pinging the entire coven of shrieking harpy sTrumpettes... how circa 2016 FR of them.
@rodamala
Nobody pinged the "shrieking harpies". New posts are displayed right there up at the top.
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Not an answer to my question! AKA a diversion! Do you actually KNOW anything you are willing to share with the rest of us or are you just running off at the mouth?
@Bigun
Maybe were seeing some of the panic from a DNC operative??
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Yeah, and sometimes families know less than zero because little Johnny is an angel and never would be involved in anything mildly scandalous.
888high58888
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Yeah, and sometimes families know less than zero because little Johnny is an angel and never would be involved in anything mildly scandalous.
That's very true as well. Which means we should all stop running around flag-waving speculative scandal-mongering simply because it fits our preconceived biases.
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@Bigun
Maybe were seeing some of the panic from a DNC operative??
Naw! In this case it's just a VERY bitter man taking it out on people who don't deserve it.
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Ah, yes, pinging the entire coven of shrieking harpy sTrumpettes... how circa 2016 FR of them.
Ain't no bottom deep enough.
I haven't forgotten what it felt like to get flooded with pro Trump spam from Eric Trump and others by way of my mother's email address days after her death. It disgusts me to see users justifying the harassment of the family of the victim because the family isn't behaving the way they want them to.
Its exactly the way the left has behaved and some on the right think that is reason enough to crawl into the gutter with them.
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@Cripplecreek
How is it degenerate to think there is something more to the murder of this young man?
It was either a Botched assassination, Botched Robbery or deranged Lover gone over the edge.
Botched assassination by another hired DNC operative:
Washington DC has gunshot location microphones throughout the city, wouldn't a professional use a silencer and not leave the guy alive for hours to talk?
Botched Robbery by some drug crazed kid that panicked after shooting him in the back, leaving jewelry, Watch, Wallet?
Deranged Lover seems more plausible to me, all the early reports spoke of his gayness (not that there's anything wrong with that), now all we here about is his girlfriend and his impending marriage, nothing adds up for me except the DNC is certainly involved and like everything they touch they screw it up.
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Ain't no bottom deep enough.
I haven't forgotten what it felt like to get flooded with pro Trump spam from Eric Trump and others by way of my mother's email address days after her death. It disgusts me to see users justifying the harassment of the family of the victim because the family isn't behaving the way they want them to.
Its exactly the way the left has behaved and some on the right think that is reason enough to crawl into the gutter with them.
@Cripplecreek
SO your explanation for being such an ass is because you think its wrong to investigate a murder??
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@Cripplecreek
SO your explanation for being such an ass is because you think its wrong to investigate a murder??
I don't think objectIng to an actual investigation was the point. Then again, prurient speculation without waiting for factual development doesn't really count as an investigation, does it?
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It was either a Botched assassination, Botched Robbery or deranged Lover gone over the edge.
Botched assassination by another hired DNC operative:
Washington DC has gunshot location microphones throughout the city, wouldn't a professional use a silencer and not leave the guy alive for hours to talk?
Botched Robbery by some drug crazed kid that panicked after shooting him in the back, leaving jewelry, Watch, Wallet?
Deranged Lover seems more plausible to me, all the early reports spoke of his gayness (not that there's anything wrong with that), now all we here about is his girlfriend and his impending marriage, nothing adds up for me except the DNC is certainly involved and like everything they touch they screw it up.
Washington DC has an exceptionally high murder rate where murders happen for robbery, mistaken identity or no reason whatsoever.
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That's very true as well. Which means we should all stop running around flag-waving speculative scandal-mongering simply because it fits our preconceived biases.
It works when we do it to the dintdo nuffins. I say the white boy out at 4:30 am is up to no good.
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@Cripplecreek
SO your explanation for being such an ass is because you think its wrong to investigate a murder??
Comeon @driftdiver don't bring the mods back in here
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I don't think objectIng to an actual investigation was the point. Then again, prurient speculation without waiting for factual development doesn't really count as an investigation, does it?
It seems obvious there won't be an investigation unless someone outside the beltway steps in. Which is curious all by itself.
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Yeah, and sometimes families know less than zero because little Johnny is an angel and never would be involved in anything mildly scandalous.
Family members are among the last I care to hear from when trying to assess relative guilt or innocence.
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Comeon @driftdiver don't bring the mods back in here
@corbe
Wasn't my intent but he owes a lot of people an apology. One I don't expect to get but thats just speculation.
Ah well, time to get back to work anyway.
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It seems obvious there won't be an investigation unless someone outside the beltway steps in. Which is curious all by itself.
Bears repeating! So I did!
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Hey this popcorn is great!
:2popcorn:
Let's keep it civil shall we?
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It seems obvious there won't be an investigation unless someone outside the beltway steps in. Which is curious all by itself.
So people with political axes to grind are the best positioned to decide what needs investigating?
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Oh for crying out loud, its 4chan. They are trolls.
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Yeah, and sometimes families know less than zero because little Johnny is an angel and never would be involved in anything mildly scandalous.
And sometimes families know stuff about little Johnny angel... but still try to cover their @ss to keep negative reporting from focusing on them after little Johnny is gone. And sometimes....
families are even paid off (See: Kennedy payoff to Kopechne family).
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Oh for crying out loud, its 4chan. They are trolls.
Exactly.
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So people with political axes to grind are the best positioned to decide what needs investigating?
@Oceander
The only time people do anything is when it helps themselves. Who do you expect to investigate this, the guy who pulled the trigger?
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Naw! In this case it's just a VERY bitter man taking it out on people who don't deserve it.
Can you prove that you're not a lizard person?
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@Oceander
The only time people do anything is when it helps themselves. Who do you expect to investigate this, the guy who pulled the trigger?
You really believe that? Then why do the cops investigate all the other thousands of murders that take place each year? Just out of self-interest alone? And if it's in their self-interest to investigate murders simply because it's a murder, then they'll investigate this one, too.
Why not let them do their job, and ignore the political bomb-throwers who clearly have a self-interest in stirring things up and muddying the water, not in solving murders?
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You really believe that? Then why do the cops investigate all the other thousands of murders that take place each year? Just out of self-interest alone? And if it's in their self-interest to investigate murders simply because it's a murder, then they'll investigate this one, too.
Why not let them do their job, and ignore the political bomb-throwers who clearly have a self-interest in stirring things up and muddying the water, not in solving murders?
@Oceander
Why did they drop this murder like a hot potato? They got paid for it right? (self interest angle)
Why not let the media do its job. Thats what its for right. Good grief, this is exactly why the leftists are winning. They wouldn't pass up a chance like this to further their agenda meanwhile conservatives are fighting amongst each other.
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@Oceander
Why did they drop this murder like a hot potato? They got paid for it right? (self interest angle)
Why not let the media do its job. Thats what its for right. Good grief, this is exactly why the leftists are winning. They wouldn't pass up a chance like this to further their agenda meanwhile conservatives are fighting amongst each other.
Perhaps they dropped it because they investigated and found nothing. If the media wants to do it's job, great; where are they? Cause the bomb-throwers tossing these allegations around really don't count as dispassionate fact-finders.
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I would sooner believe the National Enquirer than anything out of either the Gateway Pundit or 4Chan.
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Kim Dotcom's lone claim to fame is a Web site devoted to mass piracy of copyrighted files. How would he have any credible information? Maybe it's buried on his megaservers next to all those pirated porn movies.
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Meanwhile
http://videos.files.wordpress.com/O4eXamyG/fox_benghazi_obama_std.mp4
Hit the play button!
Anyone remember what I told you about this at the time it was happening?
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Perhaps they dropped it because they investigated and found nothing. If the media wants to do it's job, great; where are they? Cause the bomb-throwers tossing these allegations around really don't count as dispassionate fact-finders.
Um, just to clarify.... by "the bomb-throwers" ....do you mean...
those folks that know only too well how the Hillary crime family operates, how the DNC operates, how the Democratic Party operates, and how the leftists have no compunctions whatsoever re: 'eliminating' their opponents or anyone that threatens their agenda IN ANY MANNER that they may need to utilize. Those folks (myself included)?
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Perhaps they dropped it because they investigated and found nothing. If the media wants to do it's job, great; where are they? Cause the bomb-throwers tossing these allegations around really don't count as dispassionate fact-finders.
Found nothing? Oh yeah they didnt find the murderer. THey just said, oh well it musta been random. next
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Found nothing? Oh yeah they didnt find the murderer. THey just said, oh well it musta been random. next
It is REAL hard to find anything you refuse to look for!
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Found nothing? Oh yeah they didnt find the murderer. THey just said, oh well it musta been random. next
Then maybe it was really random. Do you have objective evidence - not politically-motivated conjecture - that says otherwise?
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Family members are among the last I care to hear from when trying to assess relative guilt or innocence.
Yep. Hands up don't shoot, buy a T-shirt...
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Then maybe it was really random. Do you have objective evidence - not politically-motivated conjecture - that says otherwise?
So random murders don't need to be investigated and the trigger pullers prosecuted?
Cool, I'll just tell the cops that the next time. Honest officer it was just random.
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So random murders don't need to be investigated and the trigger pullers prosecuted?
Cool, I'll just tell the cops that the next time. Honest officer it was just random.
Were you privy to the investigation? Do you know how many other deaths end up in the same basket?
The only thing revving people's motors here are the political allegations, and those are pretty much fact-free. There is precious little concern for the murder itself.
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Were you privy to the investigation? Do you know how many other deaths end up in the same basket?
The only thing revving people's motors here are the political allegations, and those are pretty much fact-free. There is precious little concern for the murder itself.
umm the murder is what got the attention. jeez
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Yep. Hands up don't shoot, buy a T-shirt...
LOL. Bingo.
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umm the murder is what got the attention. jeez
So where is the careful outside investigation you mentioned? Something to replace what you say didn't happen? There is nothing; just evidence-free allegations from people who wish to use this mans death for their own political purposes. That seems rather callous to me.
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So where is the careful outside investigation you mentioned? Something to replace what you say didn't happen? There is nothing; just evidence-free allegations from people who wish to use this mans death for their own political purposes. That seems rather callous to me.
Those seem like good DNC talking points there.
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4Chan purposely creates conspiracy theories and other crap for their own entertainment
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Those seem like good DNC talking points there.
Thanks for the insult, and for capitulating. Your surrender is accepted.
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Yep. Hands up don't shoot, buy a T-shirt...
Don't forget the family fights over the merchandising rights!
Brown’s Mother, grandmother and auntie actually brawled on a street corner in Ferguson over “I Am Mike Brown” and “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” T-shirt sales, with Brown’s cousin having his skull fractured by a metal pipe.
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Um, just to clarify.... by "the bomb-throwers" ....do you mean...
those folks that know only too well how the Hillary crime family operates, how the DNC operates, how the Democratic Party operates, and how the leftists have no compunctions whatsoever re: 'eliminating' their opponents or anyone that threatens their agenda IN ANY MANNER that they may need to utilize. Those folks (myself included)?
@XenaLee
http://alamo-girl.com/0463.htm
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Then maybe it was really random. Do you have objective evidence - not politically-motivated conjecture - that says otherwise?
The problem with that "theory" is.... random ""muggings or robberies"" usually mean something is taken from the victim. If you have any logic at all.... you would draw a conclusion that it wasn't a mugging or robbery, and ergo then... that it probably wasn't "random".
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It was either a Botched assassination, Botched Robbery or deranged Lover gone over the edge.
Botched assassination by another hired DNC operative:
Washington DC has gunshot location microphones throughout the city, wouldn't a professional use a silencer and not leave the guy alive for hours to talk?
Botched Robbery by some drug crazed kid that panicked after shooting him in the back, leaving jewelry, Watch, Wallet?
Deranged Lover seems more plausible to me, all the early reports spoke of his gayness (not that there's anything wrong with that), now all we here about is his girlfriend and his impending marriage, nothing adds up for me except the DNC is certainly involved and like everything they touch they screw it up.
I see I am going to have to post this again since obviously nobody brother to watch it. Here we have Julian Assange practically flat out telling us that Seth Rich was his source for the DNC emails.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg)
Recall also that Wikileaks has offered $20,000.00 for info leading to the arrest of Seth murder(s). Why would Wikileaks do that if there was no connection between Rich and Wikileaks?
And then there is the fact that John Podesta wanted to make an example of someone.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAbhm_9XcAAd3PG.jpg)
Someone asked where is the lap top? Rod Wheeler wants to know this too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRJDKEVxHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRJDKEVxHY)
The good news is that with a special console investigating RussiaGate you can bet your last dollar that how Wikileaks got the DNC emails will be central to the investigation. So if it was Seth Rich then solving his murder will also be a top priority.
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@XenaLee
http://alamo-girl.com/0463.htm
I remember it all (the Clinton Crime Family Regime) only too well.
Thanks! ^-^
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I remember it all (the Clinton Crime Family Regime) only too well.
Thanks! ^-^
But many will dismiss it as all smoke and no fire! :beer:
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But many will dismiss it as all smoke and no fire! :beer:
And the question you then have to ask yourself is....
why? (agenda, agenda, agenda)
:beer:
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Thanks for the insult, and for capitulating. Your surrender is accepted.
I gave you praise for your adherence to the DNC talking points, hardly an insult. Job well done
No surrender, just no time to continue a pointless discuss with someone using DNC talking points.
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I remember it all (the Clinton Crime Family Regime) only too well.
Thanks! ^-^
“Senators and presidents don’t have men killed.” – Kay Adams
“Oh. Who’s being naïve, Kay?” – Michael Corleone
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Don't forget the family fights over the merchandising rights!
Yeah, such a nice family, too. Opening a small business in memory of that poor child... **nononono*
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“Senators and presidents don’t have men killed.” – Kay Adams
“Oh. Who’s being naïve, Kay?” – Michael Corleone
Exactly!!! One of my favorite movie quotes. lol
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Exactly!!! One of my favorite movie quotes. lol
Yeah just ask Ron Brown
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But many will dismiss it as all smoke and no fire! :beer:
When a murder is unsolved, any clear motive should be investigated. There is a clear politically based motive which seems to exist. Failure to investigate that thoroughly is misfeasance. "Random" just decries any motive, 'lover's quarrel, whichever way' does not excuse not pursuing that lead, either, but a political motive which would be a strong inducement on the part of some parties to see the man dead needs follow up, as well as physical evidence. How many laptops did the deceased have? (Many people will have a couple, minimum).
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When a murder is unsolved, any clear motive should be investigated. There is a clear politically based motive which seems to exist. Failure to investigate that thoroughly is misfeasance. "Random" just decries any motive, 'lover's quarrel, whichever way' does not excuse not pursuing that lead, either, but a political motive which would be a strong inducement on the part of some parties to see the man dead needs follow up, as well as physical evidence. How many laptops did the deceased have? (Many people will have a couple, minimum).
Murders in D.C. happen almost hourly. While this particular person's death is tragic (as are all murders) despite the tinfoil being tossed around in here, the D.C. Metro Homicide doesn't have the time or the resources to drop everything and focus on one murder just because some internet trolls threw some red meat out for the conspiracy nuts to chew on.
His murder will get solved...eventually...but in reality his is just one in a long list of unsolved murders in D.C. in 2016 that they are working on when they can.
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Murders in D.C. happen almost hourly. While this particular person's death is tragic (as are all murders) despite the tinfoil being tossed around in here, the D.C. Metro Homicide doesn't have the time or the resources to drop everything and focus on one murder just because some internet trolls threw some red meat out for the conspiracy nuts to chew on.
His murder will get solved...eventually...but in reality his is just one in a long list of unsolved murders in D.C. in 2016 that they are working on when they can.
To sum up the Seth-whatever-his-name-is-was-murdered position:
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/158/326/9148130.jpg)
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When a murder is unsolved, any clear motive should be investigated. There is a clear politically based motive which seems to exist. Failure to investigate that thoroughly is misfeasance. "Random" just decries any motive, 'lover's quarrel, whichever way' does not excuse not pursuing that lead, either, but a political motive which would be a strong inducement on the part of some parties to see the man dead needs follow up, as well as physical evidence. How many laptops did the deceased have? (Many people will have a couple, minimum).
Seems like common sense.
BTW as for the "scandalmongering", aka discussing, accusation someone else threw out there, well, this IS a political discussion board.
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Seems like common sense.
BTW as for the "scandalmongering", aka discussing, accusation someone else threw out there, well, this IS a political discussion board.
Yes but we must seek approval from our unwavering uncompromising betters before posting anything on the board. Anything else and the condescending insults will be heaped upon us for our failure to be perfect little conservatives.
or something like that
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But that part of DC doesn't have many murders. It's suppose to be one of the nicer parts of town.
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But that part of DC doesn't have many murders. It's suppose to be one of the nicer parts of town.
Aren't the murder and non-murder parts of DC only a couple blocks apart?
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Yes but we must seek approval from our unwavering uncompromising betters before posting anything on the board. Anything else and the condescending insults will be heaped upon us for our failure to be perfect little conservatives.
or something like that
Why does it always have to be the same troup of 'betters'?
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Aren't the murder and non-murder parts of DC only a couple blocks apart?
I'll say. The first time I was in DC, in the eighties, I set out looking for the Nat'l Museum of the US Navy and found myself being escorted back to the mall area by a sympathetic cop 20 minutes later.
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Why does it always have to be the same troup of 'betters'?
We call them Trumpers, not betters
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Aren't the murder and non-murder parts of DC only a couple blocks apart?
Yes they are. People have been knifed within sight of the Capitol dome.
I've driven out of Ft. McNair in southeast and heard gunshots a couple blocks away.
The first year I was in DC the Deputy Mayor was robbed at gunpoint...in broad daylight on the National Mall.
"Low crime area" in DC is a relative term.
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Aren't the murder and non-murder parts of DC only a couple blocks apart?
The only safe areas are the very upscale neighborhoods. Even the areas around government buildings aren't that safe. Rich, as just a staffer, I'm sure didn't live in any sort of upscale area.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/DChomicides.jpg)
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(https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/map-of-seth-rich-shooting.jpg)
Originally from the Daily Mail; not sure if one can tell much from this.
Where this happened is near Howard University:
The area around Howard University is known as Shaw and it is a rough around the edges neighborhood. It is one of those neighborhoods in transition where decrepit rowhouses are being bought up by yuppies for 800K, but also where it's not out of the ordinary to be accosted for money from homeless people or to see drug dealers out in the open. It's moving more in the yuppie direction than it is the opposite direction although it's not so far into this process as other DC neighborhoods. Howard is an urban school. While there is a defined campus, parts of it, and it's student body bleed into the surrounding neighborhoods so it's not as campus-centric as schools like UVA or other large state schools or private schools. It's not really isolated from the surrounding community as much as other schools. I've only been on the campus once, never in the dorms, and it seemed nice enough. Nothing spectacular, but nothing that bad either. I definitely recommend a visit though prior to making any sort of commitment, which I'd recommend for any school you're considering.
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/washington-dc/27290-howard-university-safe-go-school-washington.html#ixzz4hqOH3Owx
I'm not going on, I don't know how the city is laid out, this looks to be quite a ways away from where we were.
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The only safe areas are the very upscale neighborhoods. Even the areas around government buildings aren't that safe. Rich, as just a staffer, I'm sure didn't live in any sort of upscale area.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/DChomicides.jpg)
All those dots are politically motivated murders! All of them! Except the ones found in parks, of course... :whistle:
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4 AM in the morning and apparently drinking quite a bit, not the best of a situation almost anywhere in my opinion.
Abaraxas's image should be reduced to see it better:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/DChomicides.jpg)
So, if Seth had possibly just been home by midnight, this most likely would have been avoided, that's why it is problematic for me to go with the conspiracy theories.
I can see that little lake near Howard University in this map.
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Lot of red dots around the murder site.
4:30 in the morning, dodgy area, few drinks inside him .... why didn't he take a cab? I don;t know DC at all - do all the cabs disappear at midnight (they do in Rome)?
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4Chan is where stuff is made up that even the National Enquirer would decline to print.
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Aren't the murder and non-murder parts of DC only a couple blocks apart?
That's why they always told the school kids to "stay with the group", even in the '60s..
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Then one weighs pros and cons, for the pro-conspiracy side, one would say "he had his wallet and money still", this could have been a thrill killing for someone who then ran off on foot. Rodney Wheeler who investigated this is a former DC homicide detective.
It doesn't look like anything is there to me. It doesn't hurt to look considering what seem to be suspicious circumstances. I'm certainly not on the inside of how people might take care of business in politics, CIA, etc.
Rod Wheeler: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/rod-wheeler-seth-rich-fox-private-investigator-detective-wikileaks-washington-dc-bio/
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4Chan is where stuff is made up that even the National Enquirer would decline to print.
Lately they have been trolling the hell out of the media too. They have been taking it out of 4Chan. They had several major media outlets reporting people using the OK symbol was a secret White Nationalist sign. They also started Pizza Gate.
To this day, freepers still believe stuff from 4Chan.
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To this day, freepers still believe stuff from 4Chan.
Which is extremely sad and possibly entertaining.
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More
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/update-tomorrow-kim-dotcom-will-release-major-information-kim-com-sethrich/
UPDATE: Tomorrow Kim Dotcom Will Release MAJOR Information at ‘Kim.com’, #SethRich
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seriously, 4Chan, Gateway Pundit and Kim.com??
Can you find 3 less reliable and less trustworthy sources??
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seriously, 4Chan, Gateway Pundit and Kim.com??
Can you find 3 less reliable and less trustworthy sources??
DNC, Hillary, Chuck Schumer.
Do I win a prize? :tongue2:
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DNC, Hillary, Chuck Schumer.
Do I win a prize? :tongue2:
Does this work: :da man:
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DNC, Hillary, Chuck Schumer.
Do I win a prize? :tongue2:
How about the Golden Snark..
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c149/MuhnayShot/Mapping/GoldSnarkTrophy.jpg)
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I say Kim DotCom doesn't provide rubbish to prove his points, bets, I would not be confident to bet a lot but we have been down this road before.
It seems Assange threatened to leak damaging stuff and nothing happened.
On the other side of the coin, someone did leak and Wasserman Schultz stepped down.
I try to see all angles and in a logical way.
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seriously, 4Chan, Gateway Pundit and Kim.com??
Can you find 3 less reliable and less trustworthy sources??
Yeah. WaPo, the NY Times and you.
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I think the girlfriend is in on it.
Seriously, who keeps someone on the phone for 89 minutes? :smokin:
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I think the girlfriend is in on it.
Seriously, who keeps someone on the phone for 89 minutes? :smokin:
Customer service.
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I think the girlfriend is in on it.
Seriously, who keeps someone on the phone for 89 minutes? :smokin:
Was her number a 1-900 number?
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Murders in D.C. happen almost hourly. While this particular person's death is tragic (as are all murders) despite the tinfoil being tossed around in here, the D.C. Metro Homicide doesn't have the time or the resources to drop everything and focus on one murder just because some internet trolls threw some red meat out for the conspiracy nuts to chew on.
His murder will get solved...eventually...but in reality his is just one in a long list of unsolved murders in D.C. in 2016 that they are working on when they can.
*****rollingeyes***** You're FOS.
YTD for 2017.....42 homicides
2016 total .....135 homicies, down 16%
http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance (http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance)
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From the time it happened, I sensed sumtin' wasn't right about the Rich murder.
I wonder who he was with in the hours (very late) before the murder?
If it was a robbery, wouldn't the robbers have told him to hand things over? That would imply a face-to-face confrontation (not shot in the back).
If it was intended to be a "kill first, then take" robbery, why didn't they take anything?
It weren't no robbery -- not even one "gone wrong".
It was something else.
What was it?
Remember how strange the initial reports of the Watergate burlary were, back in 1972?
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I think the girlfriend is in on it.
Seriously, who keeps someone on the phone for 89 minutes? :smokin:
I've dated one of those back in the day....
(https://hownottobeacrazybitch.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/2015-04-11-09-02-51.jpg)
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It seems Assange threatened to leak damaging stuff and nothing happened.
Assange's leaks so far have been very, very damning, it just seems no one in power cares. I can guarantee, if what was in the Podesta emails was about a Republican, it would have been jail time and all day news coverage. And that's just the Podesta leaks. Assange hasn't been a BS'er. The only problem is I think he over-estimates the media and legal authority caring.
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I've dated one of those back in the day....
(https://hownottobeacrazybitch.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/2015-04-11-09-02-51.jpg)
It's a club I wish I hadn't joined. But what the hell. Stab wounds heal.
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How about the Golden Snark..
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c149/MuhnayShot/Mapping/GoldSnarkTrophy.jpg)
Why, thank you, thankyouverymuch. I wanna thank my momma, my daddy, the academy... :silly:
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It's a club I wish I hadn't joined. But what the hell. Stab wounds heal.
I think we all have been/are in that club at some point in time. It is the crazy/hot matrix.
(http://www.thehotcrazymatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/6162239.jpg)
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From the time it happened, I sensed sumtin' wasn't right about the Rich murder.
I wonder who he was with in the hours (very late) before the murder?
If it was a robbery, wouldn't the robbers have told him to hand things over? That would imply a face-to-face confrontation (not shot in the back).
If it was intended to be a "kill first, then take" robbery, why didn't they take anything?
It weren't no robbery -- not even one "gone wrong".
It was something else.
What was it?
Remember how strange the initial reports of the Watergate burlary were, back in 1972?
I tend to agree. Bad hood, bad time, on foot, seems odd for someone who should know the area. I'd need more info--not just shot in the back before I could come to any concrete conclusion, but if there is a serious political motive, that would have me take a good long look before writing it off as a 'random killing'. D.C. has been rough for as long as I can recall, but "random" seems like thin stuff to kill someone for. Unfortunately the source has been crying wolf a lot, and you know how that works out--and it may be that they are just stirring the pot for whatever reason.
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From the time it happened, I sensed sumtin' wasn't right about the Rich murder.
I wonder who he was with in the hours (very late) before the murder?
If it was a robbery, wouldn't the robbers have told him to hand things over? That would imply a face-to-face confrontation (not shot in the back).
If it was intended to be a "kill first, then take" robbery, why didn't they take anything?
It weren't no robbery -- not even one "gone wrong".
It was something else.
What was it?
Remember how strange the initial reports of the Watergate burlary were, back in 1972?
Great points, in itself it's fishy.
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It was a hit.
Subpoena Jack Palladino's cell phone records for 60 days, with the 30th day being the day of the murder.
....and not merely for phone calls or texts.
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I think we all have been/are in that club at some point in time. It is the crazy/hot matrix.
(http://www.thehotcrazymatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/6162239.jpg)
From that chart, I appear to be living in the Danger Zone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E
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From that chart, I appear to be living in the Danger Zone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E
I thought you were the danger zone.
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I thought you were the danger zone.
Heh. Reminds me of when I used to drive my son over to his Mom's for her visitation...I'd think to myself, "Well, here I go into a high-crime neighborhood. It's high-crime by virtue of her living here."
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It was a hit.
Subpoena Jack Palladino's cell phone records for 60 days, with the 30th day being the day of the murder.
....and not merely for phone calls or texts.
Thanks for the info.
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For any who are interested:
(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18622231_10211171214309660_3469203261341063163_n.jpg?oh=2898ac530288c087462999f6198f3aa6&oe=59B6CF61)
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Heh. Reminds me of when I used to drive my son over to his Mom's for her visitation...I'd think to myself, "Well, here I go into a high-crime neighborhood. It's high-crime by virtue of her living here."
That's a sad story! 8888crybaby
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That's a sad story! 8888crybaby
Meh, maybe. I don't cry over it. Any more.
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From that chart, I appear to be living in the Danger Zone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E
And lets try and forget that one night in Bangkok...
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And lets try and forget that one night in Bangkok...
And that riot was over Chess....
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@Cripplecreek. Or did the DNC show up and say we'll speak for you as we'd hate to have what happened to your son also happen to you.
Are you so blinded by hate that you'll overlook this?
Double-D, turn down the meds.
What swept under the rug? A theory launched from the most insane troll sites? Alex Jones stuff.
Is that what the DNC told the family? Seriously? Making up stuff like that and asking us how we overlook it is craziness.
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Kimdot.com also claimed to know the location of Hillary's missing emails. and he was caught forging emails to prove some kind of "conspiracy" against him.
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Assange isn't the problem. 4chan isn't the problem. kimdotcom isn't the problem.
The people calling the shots are the problem.
You want to call in some shots? Call them in on these people:
The Bush Crime Family
The Clinton Crime Family
The Obama Crime Family
For their treasonous acts.
If you don't have the mettle to see these MFers put down, then INSIST they be prosecuted.
IMO, the Seth murder was a hit.
You want to see the perpetrator caught and jailed?
Prosecute Hillary for treason.
Case solved.
Some of what I read on this thread was something quite atrocious. Congratulations.
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Assange isn't the problem. 4chan isn't the problem. kimdotcom isn't the problem.
The people calling the shots are the problem.
You want to call in some shots? Call them in on these people:
The Bush Crime Family
The Clinton Crime Family
The Obama Crime Family
For their treasonous acts.
If you don't have the mettle to see these MFers put down, then INSIST they be prosecuted.
IMO, the Seth murder was a hit.
You want to see the perpetrator caught and jailed?
Prosecute Hillary for treason.
Case solved.
Some of what I read on this thread was something quite atrocious. Congratulations.
Very well said, Fred!
I'm not sure what I think about this particular case, but all the stuff you wrote above that I do agree with you.
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Assange isn't the problem. 4chan isn't the problem. kimdotcom isn't the problem.
people trusting anything on those sites is a problem
You want to take down those "crime families", you can't do it by making up the crimes, like they did by forging fake Hillary e-mails. Stuff like this ends up making "our side" look ridiculous
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Very well said, Fred!
I'm not sure what I think about this particular case, but all the stuff you wrote above that I do agree with you.
Wow, just wow.
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people trusting anything on those sites is a problem
You want to take down those "crime families", you can't do it by making up the crimes, like they did by forging fake Hillary e-mails. Stuff like this ends up making "our side" look ridiculous
I don't know what "our side" even means anymore, geron. I'm trying to go with the "right thing".
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I don't know what "our side" even means anymore, geron. I'm trying to go with the "right thing".
I don't think making up stuff helps anyone, but reactions is all entertainment to 4Chan trolls and places like kimdotcom
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I don't think making up stuff helps anyone, but reactions is all entertainment to 4Chan trolls and places like kimdotcom
That is true enough.
Why do you have 37 people on ignore?
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That is true enough.
Why do you have 37 people on ignore?
personal attacks
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personal attacks
:nometalk:
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That is true enough.
Why do you have 37 people on ignore?
Because anyone who calls out any of his BS is personally attacking him! At least that's the way he sees it.
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Wow, just wow.
(https://www.smileysapp.com/emojis/smiley-blowing-a-kiss.png)
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I enjoy reading BigHeadFred's posts, some of the most informative, in my humble opinion, here. An interesting take, it does not mean I always agree.
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Because anyone who calls out any of his BS is personally attacking him!
Nope, disagreeing with me is fine.
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Nope, disagreeing with me is fine.
I get it. Being disagreeable isn't.
I only hope it doesn't get to the point you find a tower to climb. Just sayin'.
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If Hillary operatives in the FBI have it, it has probably already been "disposed of" by now.
@corbe
@XenaLee
Meanwhile, back at DNC HQ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1BbvesZjcI
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@corbe
@XenaLee
Meanwhile, back at DNC HQ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1BbvesZjcI
It has become the hot potato of 2017. The FBI had it. They don't know where it is. The DC Police don't know where it is. And natch, the DNC hasn't a clue cause they're pure as the driven snow.
Meanwhile.... DNC operatives throughout the net have apparently been instructed to mock, ridicule, naysay and essentially put a damper on and smother any conspiracy theories out there implicating Her Evilness or anyone working on her campaign that might benefit from such an untimely death. And so it goes....
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:shrug:
To me this is still birtherism level. The family has totally disowned it.
Another shiny object for Alex Jones wannabes and the forum rubes to chase.
Kim DotCom has said stuff before that have amounted to jack squat:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/01/kim_dotcom_more_emails_are_coming_hillary_clinton_is_in_serious_trouble.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/01/kim_dotcom_more_emails_are_coming_hillary_clinton_is_in_serious_trouble.html)
This is beyond birtherism...
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This is beyond birtherism...
:thumbsup:
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I don't think making up stuff helps anyone, but reactions is all entertainment to 4Chan trolls and places like kimdotcom
To be honest, the people who post crap at 4Chan or kimdotcom or some other conspiracy site probably don't believe the s**t they post.
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To be honest, the people who post crap at 4Chan or kimdotcom or some other conspiracy site probably don't believe the s**t they post.
I haven't forgotten what Cass Sunstein wrote about using conspiracy theories (mostly to discredit opposition)
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I don't know why anyone feels compelled to make a decision on this matter right now. We don't know enough to make a rational, informed decision.
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I don't know why anyone feels compelled to make a decision on this matter right now. We don't know enough to make a rational, informed decision.
@Sanguine
Thank you! That is about the only fact that is utterly undeniable.
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I don't know why anyone feels compelled to make a decision on this matter right now. We don't know enough to make a rational, informed decision.
Exactly. How about a glimpse of the actual police report, for starters.
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The only safe areas are the very upscale neighborhoods. Even the areas around government buildings aren't that safe. Rich, as just a staffer, I'm sure didn't live in any sort of upscale area.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/DChomicides.jpg)
Whoa! WHOA!! Whoa, whoa, whoa....
I thought DC had some of the strictest gun control laws in the country!?!!? Almost a gun-free zone!
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I think we all have been/are in that club at some point in time. It is the crazy/hot matrix.
The older I get the more I see women for what they really are. I just haven't figured out what that is yet...
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The older I get the more I see women for what they really are. I just haven't figured out what that is yet...
Let us know if you figure it out.
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Let us know if you figure it out.
No One Man has ever lived that long.
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The older I get the more I see women for what they really are. I just haven't figured out what that is yet...
@Gideon300
Beautiful, sexy, and fun?
You'd be correct.
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It has become the hot potato of 2017. The FBI had it. They don't know where it is. The DC Police don't know where it is. And natch, the DNC hasn't a clue cause they're pure as the driven snow.
Meanwhile.... DNC operatives throughout the net have apparently been instructed to mock, ridicule, naysay and essentially put a damper on and smother any conspiracy theories out there implicating Her Evilness or anyone working on her campaign that might benefit from such an untimely death. And so it goes....
Well said.
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It has become the hot potato of 2017. The FBI had it. They don't know where it is. The DC Police don't know where it is. And natch, the DNC hasn't a clue cause they're pure as the driven snow.
Meanwhile.... DNC operatives throughout the net have apparently been instructed to mock, ridicule, naysay and essentially put a damper on and smother any conspiracy theories out there implicating Her Evilness or anyone working on her campaign that might benefit from such an untimely death. And so it goes....
The guy was shot in the back multiple times on a street corner at 4 AM. His very expensive watch was not taken, $2,000 in cash was not taken nor was his cell phone so obviously the motive for his death was robbery. Only the very obtuse fail to see that.
The only facts us deplorables have in this unsolved murder is who, where, when and some of the how. I'd like to know where is his lap top computer, all the responding cops had on body cams where is the footage? Where is the surveillance video from security cams? Why has the autopsy report not been released. Why has the police report not been released.
A top DNC staffer is murdered in the middle of a contentious presidential campaign and the FBI is not investigating? Really? Anyone suggesting that the motive might not be robbery is smeared beyond all reason and in the case of Hannity piratically run off the air leads me to suspect that the motive was in fact not robbery.
$250,000 has been raised for a reward, not one dime from the DNC. But the DNC did send a PR man to manage Seths' family. Why? Why did Wikileaks post a $25,000 reward?
I hope this thread is not shut down and that we can discuss the facts or lack of without grade school insults being tossed about.
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Kimdot.com also claimed to know the location of Hillary's missing emails. and he was caught forging emails to prove some kind of "conspiracy" against him.
Kimdot Com is not credible.
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The guy was shot in the back multiple times on a street corner at 4 AM. His very expensive watch was not taken, $2,000 in cash was not taken nor was his cell phone so obviously the motive for his death was robbery. Only the very obtuse fail to see that.
The only facts us deplorables have in this unsolved murder is who, where, when and some of the how. I'd like to know where is his lap top computer, all the responding cops had on body cams where is the footage? Where is the surveillance video from security cams? Why has the autopsy report not been released. Why has the police report not been released.
A top DNC staffer is murdered in the middle of a contentious presidential campaign and the FBI is not investigating? Really? Anyone suggesting that the motive might not be robbery is smeared beyond all reason and in the case of Hannity piratically run off the air leads me to suspect that the motive was in fact not robbery.
$250,000 has been raised for a reward, not one dime from the DNC. But the DNC did send a PR man to manage Seths' family. Why? Why did Wikileaks post a $25,000 reward?
I hope this thread is not shut down and that we can discuss the facts or lack of without grade school insults being tossed about.
Too late for that.... at least on another similar (same issue) thread. I just want to know.... what the hell is the group of naysayers (those that name-call, insult and try to bully anyone that wants a thorough investigation of this incident) afraid of? What is the downside to further investigation? I've asked one of them....but he refused to answer. That silence spoke volumes. The question is now rhetorical.
I want answers on this and I won't stop asking for them (now).... no matter how many azholes try to silence me.
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Too late for that.... at least on another similar (same issue) thread. I just want to know.... what the hell is the group of naysayers (those that name-call, insult and try to bully anyone that wants a thorough investigation of this incident) are afraid of. I've asked one of them....but he refused to answer. That silence spoke volumes. The question is now rhetorical.
I want answers on this and I won't stop asking for them (now).... no matter how many azholes try to silence me.
Russiagate is doing real damage to Trump and the NeverTrumpers (most but not all) are enjoying seeing the hated Trump brought to his knees over the fairly tale that Trump colluded with Russia to beat Hillary. Should it turn out that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails Russiagate will be exposed as the lie that it is. So if you are hard core NeverTrump or a loyal Rat then you do not want a serious impartial investigation into the murder of Seth Rich.
But we are going to get a serious investigation since job one of the Special Counsel will be to determine how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.
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Russiagate is doing real damage to Trump and the NeverTrumpers (most but not all) are enjoying seeing the hated Trump brought to his knees over the fairly tale that Trump colluded with Russia to beat Hillary. Should it turn out that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails Russiagate will be exposed as the lie that it is. So if you are hard core NeverTrump or a loyal Rat then you do not want a serious impartial investigation into the murder of Seth Rich.
But we are going to get a serious investigation since job one of the Special Counsel will be to determine how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.
Why is Trump getting stuffed into the thread?
I can see why Democrats would want to keep a lid on anything related to their criminal activities, but I fail to understand what part Trump plays in this.
Anything which will have people who have broken the law up on charges is just fine with me. As a class Democrats have enjoyed far too much immunity from prosecution (a given under Obama), and it's time to let them know there's a new sheriff in town. That includes highly placed members of the previous administration who have been closely linked with other people who died under questionable circumstances, whether the bodies were found on train tracks in Arkansas, obscure parks in the D.C. area, or at embassy annexes far away.
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Why is Trump getting stuffed into the thread?
I can see why Democrats would want to keep a lid on anything related to their criminal activities, but I fail to understand what part Trump plays in this.
Anything which will have people who have broken the law up on charges is just fine with me. As a class Democrats have enjoyed far too much immunity from prosecution (a given under Obama), and it's time to let them know there's a new sheriff in town. That includes highly placed members of the previous administration who have been closely linked with other people who died under questionable circumstances, whether the bodies were found on train tracks in Arkansas, obscure parks in the D.C. area, or at embassy annexes far away.
In reality Trump has nothing to do with this, but he is he is being used as one half of a double-duty diversion, a tactic for which Democrats are infamous. Some will remember when Bill Clinton depleted the entire US stock of Tomahawk missiles to take the public's mind off his impending impeachment. This newest "Russian" nonsense diversion is even more potent because it not only does away with the public's curiosity about and desire to investigate the Seth Rich incident (the public has a VERY SHORT memory), but it also does at least some real damage to their most hated adversary, Trump.
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Russiagate is doing real damage to Trump and the NeverTrumpers (most but not all) are enjoying seeing the hated Trump brought to his knees over the fairly tale that Trump colluded with Russia to beat Hillary. Should it turn out that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails Russiagate will be exposed as the lie that it is. So if you are hard core NeverTrump or a loyal Rat then you do not want a serious impartial investigation into the murder of Seth Rich.
But we are going to get a serious investigation since job one of the Special Counsel will be to determine how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.
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@Gideon300
Beautiful, sexy, and fun?
That is my assessment anyway.
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In reality Trump has nothing to do with this, but he is he is being used as one half of a double-duty diversion, a tactic for which Democrats are infamous. Some will remember when Bill Clinton depleted the entire US stock of Tomahawk missiles to take the public's mind off his impending impeachment. This newest "Russian" nonsense diversion is even more potent because it not only does away with the public's curiosity about and desire to investigate the Seth Rich incident (the public has a VERY SHORT memory), but it also does at least some real damage to their most hated adversary, Trump.
Trump is being used by the idiot left (and others) as a major scapegoat. I'm no Trump fan, but.... I can see only too clearly how some folks are trying to blame Trump for everything under the sun, just like they blamed Bush. They are scared to death that something solid will come out of this murder incident that will indict their heroes in the DNC. Besides Hillary, Brazille also needs to be grilled about her part in this.
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That is my assessment anyway.
Some are, definitely. But NOT ALL, by any means.
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More like the DNC is laughing at Kim DotCom
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Russiagate is doing real damage to Trump and the NeverTrumpers (most but not all) are enjoying seeing the hated Trump brought to his knees over the fairly tale that Trump colluded with Russia to beat Hillary. Should it turn out that Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails Russiagate will be exposed as the lie that it is. So if you are hard core NeverTrump or a loyal Rat then you do not want a serious impartial investigation into the murder of Seth Rich.
But we are going to get a serious investigation since job one of the Special Counsel will be to determine how Wikileaks got the DNC emails.
First off, as someone who could be ID'd as "neverTrump" I can safely say most of us don't particularly care about the supposed Russia claims, either. That's a Democrat thing. (Believe me, though, if, as it's speculated, it goes back to Paul Manafort, then it might become an issue for us because Manafort was the one who fixed the primaries to get Trump the nomination.)
Second, it takes more than some innuendo to prove the DNC ordered a hit-job on a guy, and I'm sorry to say it, but at this point, innuendo and speculation is all anyone has. We have to assume not only that the DNC did so, but that the rationale for it was even valid (that Rich was the one behind the Podesta hack), which again has no evidence. Assange won't release his source and the only testimony we have is that of a professional pirate who wasn't directly involved in the situation and has a history of dubious statements.
If the DNC did it, they covered their tracks impeccably. I don't trust even the Clinton machine to pull that off. Obama, maybe.
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First off, as someone who could be ID'd as "neverTrump" I can safely say most of us don't particularly care about the supposed Russia claims, either. That's a Democrat thing. (Believe me, though, if, as it's speculated, it goes back to Paul Manafort, then it might become an issue for us because Manafort was the one who fixed the primaries to get Trump the nomination.)
Second, it takes more than some innuendo to prove the DNC ordered a hit-job on a guy, and I'm sorry to say it, but at this point, innuendo and speculation is all anyone has. We have to assume not only that the DNC did so, but that the rationale for it was even valid (that Rich was the one behind the Podesta hack), which again has no evidence. Assange won't release his source and the only testimony we have is that of a professional pirate who wasn't directly involved in the situation and has a history of dubious statements.
If the DNC did it, they covered their tracks impeccably. I don't trust even the Clinton machine to pull that off. Obama, maybe.
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First off, as someone who could be ID'd as "neverTrump" I can safely say most of us don't particularly care about the supposed Russia claims, either. That's a Democrat thing. (Believe me, though, if, as it's speculated, it goes back to Paul Manafort, then it might become an issue for us because Manafort was the one who fixed the primaries to get Trump the nomination.)
Second, it takes more than some innuendo to prove the DNC ordered a hit-job on a guy, and I'm sorry to say it, but at this point, innuendo and speculation is all anyone has. We have to assume not only that the DNC did so, but that the rationale for it was even valid (that Rich was the one behind the Podesta hack), which again has no evidence. Assange won't release his source and the only testimony we have is that of a professional pirate who wasn't directly involved in the situation and has a history of dubious statements.
If the DNC did it, they covered their tracks impeccably. I don't trust even the Clinton machine to pull that off. Obama, maybe.
The reality is this.. People who post conspiracy stuff online and on sites like kim dot com, probably don't even believe the BS they are posting. Also, I don't even think they are truly conservative. I think they are lefties posing as conservatives to make our side look like fools (they are doing a good job so far). Just because a site post anti Hillary crap, doesn't make the site conservative.
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The reality is this.. People who post conspiracy stuff online and on sites like kim dot com, probably don't even believe the BS they are posting. Also, I don't even think they are truly conservative. I think they are lefties posing as conservatives to make our side look like fools (they are doing a good job so far). Just because a site post anti Hillary crap, doesn't make the site conservative.
Interesting reading from Cass Sunstein about using conspiracy theories for political ends.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585